The Florida Panthers are terrifying

The Florida Panthers are terrifying

[Music] [Applause] [Music] Get out. [Music] Oh, hello everybody. It is Thursday, May 1st in the United States of America and Canada. It’s noon. It’s a show called What Chaos presented by Prize Picks. Download the Prize Pick app today and use code What Chaos. Get $50 instantly when you play $5. Prize Pick. Run your game. I like to think of that as uh the Prize Pics. It’s like a glass of wine with the meal that is the sporting event if you know what I’m saying. My name is David Bean. I sit beside Pete Blackburn and right over there is Sean Depaz. Fresh off of seeing a couple eliminations, boys. How are you, Sean? I’m doing good. Sad that my uh Habs are dead, but otherwise all right. That’s okay. How are you, Pete? I’m good. It was a It was a good run from the Habs. I’m uh I’m I’m a little thankful that they’re gone, that they didn’t make too much noise in the playoffs. Didn’t put me in a super uncomfortable spot. It was a nice little run. We’ll see you see you down the road, Canadians. Would love for you to be a little bit more more hatable. Uh, as we’re doing the the grabass portion of today’s show, I’m seeing your name Pete in the chat. Are you arguing with people in the chat already? This there was a real JD Bunkus in the chat who just before the show even started was like Pete’s been crying in the mirror all night because Marian’s moving on. That’s not knowing ball. Of course, I want Marian to move on. The Bruins get a first round pick if the Panthers win two rounds and Marshian plays 50% of the games. We are going to talk a lot of Panthers today. Got to do a quick shout out to our Panther fan whatnotss. I’m most confused by you of all of our fans. And we have a a fan uh we and we have a person who regularly sends us videos of him smoking a bong and smashing beers on his head while saying go Oilers even though they are clearly adorned in Utah stuff. That man makes all the sense in the world to me. I get that man. I’ve known that man. What I don’t get and what I don’t know is what’s going on with Panther fans. Every time anything happens not involving the Panthers, the Panther whatnuts accuse Pete or me or somebody of being so like salty or whatever about the Panthers. I love Brad Marshand. I have even come around on Paul Maurice. I like Matthew Kachchuck. I’m happy for Bob. I own Who’s saying this? I bought a Seth Jones jersey in the year of our Lord 2024. Panthers whatnuts. We love you, baby. Cool it. I have fully like we’re fully Panthers respectctors. And we’re gonna have a Panthers guest on today. Uh our friend Mike Ryan from Metallark. Uh he’s going to join the show. I will ask him about like do you do they do Panthers fans still feel like persecuted or underestimated or like the do they still have kind of like little brother syndrome because they shouldn’t especially after what they did to the Lightning? We’ll talk about that. But like I feel like everybody does respect the Panthers. Yeah. And I’ll tell you what the the seeing Panthers fans watch their team and I’m talking like Panthers fans. I’m talking like 1996 been there Panthers fans. Seeing them in person watch their team win the cup was the most profound Dyson air dryer of my tears as I was watching my team lose. Like it was cool. I like Panthers fans. I like the Panthers. Love Brad Marshon. So we’ll talk about them quite a bit today because they’re in the news. Pete, tell the folks what else we’ll be discussing. What else is in the news today? Let’s see. Today in the news, we have Sunb Belt to ass. That is very good. Proud of that one. Very, very good. That is that the one pre-show you said inspired by Shawn? Yes. Okay. Uh Sean has coined belt to ass. And I definitely did not come up with that. You’re not supposed to say that. Take it. I introduced it to this universe. I’ll say I will take I will I am the uh I was going to make a really weird comparison to Christopher Columbus. Life doesn’t exist outside of this universe. That’s how you fair. Yeah. Fair. Uh then we’re gonna talk about Flying the Coupe. Is John Cooper gonna be out of a job? There’s been some rumblings about what could be in uh in store for John Cooper’s future. Craziest rumblings. So uh we’ll talk about that. We’ll also talk about Arava Habs. That’s why you don’t say Santrael. Oh my god. What was that? Have you How do you say? Is that was that real? I mean like it was I was trying and then I immediately abandoned my boy. I do that. I’m trying to do an accent and I’m like can’t do that accent. I feel like this is something you’ve heard before but you’ve never seen it spelled out. So it’s very confusing when you see French spelled out. It’s like a uh I don’t know how to really speak French. I’m going to be in my head about it, but I would say oh no. Oh no. Or I think I thought it was like a seems like how you say it like a a sounded I don’t even know how this word could be applied here, but that just sounded racist. Say xenophobic. Yeah, quaffophobic. That’s right. [ __ ] off. And finally, we’re going to talk about the heart finalist. Lol. What a long strange trip it’s been there. It has been a uh a very long strange trip. And there was um I don’t know if we could call it a twist, but twist. A little slightly lightly surprising. There was uh there was like a little bit of there was a little Canadian election to this heart race where somebody just so Nikita seemed dead. He didn’t seem like he was a part of this conversation and the last last couple months just it was like a red shell at the finish line in Mario Kart. It was me and Mario Kart in Edmonton. No, I’ve been playing Mario Kart of late. Yeah, we got a text yesterday about something and he was like, I’m playing Mario Kart. I can get to it in a few minutes. No, like not even. It was like 3:30 in the afternoon. We were cutting show clips and DJ was like, I’m playing Mario Kart. I’ll get to it in a little bit. Never once has said like, I’m going to be I’m in on Mario Kart. It was so funny. You don’t even have a game console. That’s why when I’m playing Mario Kart, you got to take your opportunity. That’s what I got. That’s what I’m doing. Completely understandable. Yeah. I play Mario Kart now with my nephews and I don’t talk to them when we’re playing. Like they were like, “Did you know that in this level you go around and I’m just like laser focused, first place, no one’s [ __ ] catching me?” And as we’ve discussed famously, Mario Kart is a game that makes it easier to catch up to somebody than it is to hold the lead. So, I’m trying to teach my nephews lessons about I’m trying to teach them to lose. So, I try to smoke them when I play. And I’m getting I am getting a gaming system just so I can play more Mario Kart with them. Just so you can get better, more effective at teaching them how to lose. I’ll tell you what, if we want to do if we want to be like hockey streamers who don’t stream us playing hockey and instead we just play Mario Kart, I’ll do that [ __ ] all day. I mean, I think that that was a plan during one of the the last year’s 24-hour stream technology. I Yeah, I’ve been thinking a lot recently about doing uh about streaming. I know you you did this and gave me this idea streaming to get a uh a PC cuz I I thought about it the other night when I hopped in bed on the overtime stream. I’m like, I have a perfect setup for uh bed streams. You definitely do for just sleeping on stream. So, I might do that. Okay. Uh let’s begin the show with the Florida Panthers, who we suppose are horrifying again. And I don’t know why that feels like a surprise because this is a team that won the Stanley Cup last year, has been able to wink wink rest quite a bit throughout the season while adding such star players as Seth Jones. [ __ ] you. He’s a star and he has looked good. Brad Marshant always been a star and now here they are having walled through the first round. That shouldn’t feel like a surprise. And as we had salty Panthers fan whatnotss noting, well, two of you picked the Lightning to win this series. Yeah, two of us did pick the Lightning to win this series. And that’s okay. I say this as the person who picked the Panthers to win the series, not to brag. The Lightning were first in goals this season, fourth in goals against this season, fifth in power play, sixth in penalty kill, had the best goal differential in the Eastern Conference by 10 miles. They were a plus 75. The next best team in goal differential was the Capitals at plus 56. The Panthers beat this team in five games, and it was a fivegame series. It wasn’t uh it it wasn’t a Battle of Ontario thing where here’s where it is, but there’s been a lot of overtime games and they’ve been close. No, the Panthers were the better team in all but one game this series. They won all four games they should have won. They lost the one game in which the Lightning were better. I mentioned that the Lightning were the number one offense in the league this season. In the first round, 16 teams have played. Do you know where the Lightning ranked the the top ranked regular season offense? Do you know where they ranked in offense in the first round? Second to last. Second to last. They went from first of 32 to 15th of 16. The Florida Panthers, folks, they are back to pulverizing teams in the postseason. And as surprising as it feels kind of, it’s not surprising because they have the pedigree. Bob, we even got good second half of series. Bob, which we’re not really used to seeing. He usually gets worse. Yeah. Give the uh give the fun Nikita Coutrov stat. Best stat in the world. Per let me credit this person, Noah Small on Reddit. Nikita Coutrov is one of the three heart nominees we will discuss later in the show. He also is the Art Ross winner. He led the league with I want to say how many points he had. I just sent it to Sean. He had Nikita Cuchov had 121 points to lead the league. In his three Art Ross seasons, Nikita Cucharov has zero playoff goals. 2019 he won the Art Ross. Then the Lightning got swept by Columbus. We all remember that. He had two points, both assists. 2024 lost to Florida on five, seven assists, zero goals. Still a good series. Yeah. 2025 lost to Florida in five. Four assists, zero goals. You still say kind of a good series, but not really because Nikita Coutrov is more than a point a game player. And he’s he’s he should be scoring goals. Should be scoring goals. He’s a guy that can score goals. Why did he stop scoring goals in the playoffs? But the Lightning did not score goals. And I think the Panthers were a big part of it. And let’s also note that the Panthers did this without one of their top defenseman in Aaron Nekblad. They are only getting stronger. And speaking of only getting stronger, Brad Marshon has come alive. He is now a dream third liner playing with Loser Rinan and Lundell coming up huge. Had an assist in game four and then two assists, two primary assists, one for each of his linemates in game five. Brad Marshon has arrived. The Florida Panthers, feel stupid to say, have arrived. I think that we just maybe got kind of bored of assuming they were so awesome. I do think that there was logical reason to doubt them or at least like have concerns heading into the playoffs. Like you didn’t know what Matthew Kachchuck was going to be. You didn’t really know what Brad Marsham was going to be given that like he barely played for them down the stretch. Uh you you wonder about like Vaselvki versus Babski. Babski is always kind of a crapshoot especially in the playoffs. Like I think there was reason to think that this series would go deep and that you might not know like or there might be some figuring things out for the Panthers. I’m not shocked the Panthers won. I am shocked that it looked the way that it did. But at the end of the day, like I shouldn’t be shocked because this is the Panthers that we know. It’s just that now that they are back to being their scariest self. Uh, chat, I did not say that on purpose when I said they are only getting stronger when discussing Aaron Eblad, but show me the lie. I feel like Yeah, I feel like for the Panthers fans that are all offended by people choosing Tampa, so like this, it’s not like you showed up to the playoffs playing a wildcard team after having been dominant for the last however many months. Like, you were your team was a shell of itself. So, I’m by no means surprised to see them in their current state, but it was by no means uh guarantee that they would look like this. Also, like, show me how many people picked like Tampa in five or Tampa in even six. I’m I I think that most people who picked Tampa, it was like Tampa and seven. Yeah, I don’t I I by no means by no means did I I did pick Tampa to win the series. By no means did I think Tampa was going to like blow out the Panthers or make it look easy. I get I didn’t think the Panthers would would do this either, but here we are. Let’s get to our guest, someone I’ve wanted to have on the show uh forever. Mike Ryan of Meadowark and the Libertard Show. Mike, uh we’ve never spoken to each other before. So, pardon this being the first thing I ever say to you. Why are you such a [ __ ] about Brad Marshand? Oh, Brad Marshand is a [ __ ] Don’t come at me like that. Don’t Don’t That loser. Are you talking about a third liner that shouldn’t even be dressing for this Florida Panther team? Are you talking about Brad Marshan today? Out of all the days we’re about to make our third straight cup final and you come out the gates talking to me about Brad Marian. He had a nice game. Good to go. Great. Awesome. I’m glad he finally got some points in this series. Good to see our third liner get going against like a demigod of a third line that’s the most underrated line in hockey. Brad Marshawn. We just killed the lightning and you’re coming at me with Brad Marshon. Sean, can we get a grade on this? because you are the biggest hater in the world and we are speaking to a devout fan who hates one of his players so much that I don’t I I don’t really know how to make heads or tails of it. I have no idea what to do with this. I respect it. I It’s not the kind of energy I would have. I I love the uh the brand. So, if anyone anybody could join the Buffalo Sabres and I’m going to be happy about it. But I do respect having this level of hatred towards uh single player that’s going to ruin your life for a few You’re a big get blank off my team guy. Yeah. And I know a lot of people do that. I’ve never seen someone do it when the team is winning. And I usually when I say get off my team, it’s usually because they suck. Um but hey, I’m not going to I’m not going to judge. I don’t know jack [ __ ] about winning. So if a Florida if a Florida fan wants to to act like this, I can’t get upset about it. Look, I’m very happy that your favorite player is ringing Jason with the Florida Panthers. We killed him once before. He realized he wanted to join up with the super team. That’s all fine and dandy. Hopefully, he gets some ice time in the Stanley Cup final. It’d be nice. Me personally, I prefer Mackey skating out there, but whatever. Let’s Look, we got off on the wrong foot. By the way, I did find somebody that picked uh Tampa in five. Uh Suchin Shandam uh from I guess ESPN. Really? You [ __ ] up. What were you thinking? You did. You did. Uh, why are you talking about Brad Morand? Let’s talk about Let’s talk about you. Let’s keep our lights on. Let’s talk about you. Let’s talk about Panthers fans because we’ve been getting a lot of [ __ ] about disrespecting Panthers fans like what is where do you stand? Like how did you enter into this playoff run thinking about your team? Did you think we are still the [ __ ] best, people are underestimating us? Or were you like, “Okay, there’s there’s we have things to figure out about our team heading into this playoff run.” Uh, I was only worried about Brad Marshian really, uh, screwing everything up. I I was pretty confident in the team. It was weird that people forgot our best players were out. I I kind of found that odd. Um, you’d think that a little bit more credit would be given to a team that had gone to two straight cup finals, but, you know, I I I was a little worried about Tampa because they were in good form and you you always have the PTSD about 88. I I’m not really fearful of Cucharov. I really have no reason to be um push him out to the blue line the last three times we played him. Uh and I woke up and they’re sending his ass to Utah and John Cooper. So they they really rarely make days this good. I I got to ask, what are you holding right now? What is that? Uh this is my uh friend Joelle uh that we turned into a muppet. Uh there’s a gif that I occasionally tweet out uh of him on a little girl’s body uh whenever we have big wins and one of my friends made him into a muppet. So that’s my buddy Joel. All right then. Good. Uh somebody in the chat asked who came in with bigger [ __ ] energy this week, JD Bunkis or Mike Ryan? At least Mike Ryan waited till his team won a fourth game. I’ll say that. Oh, you came out the gates attacking me. I was attacked. That is true. I mean I I what what I I chose to open with the hit. Really? That’s all. Do you have any thoughts on AJ Greer since you want to talk about rotational wingers on the Florida Panthers? Look, I I bet P could do AJ Greer talk. I’m not rotational. I bet P could do AJ Greer talk. Greg, do you have any Do you have any thoughts about Jesper? This is so No, you want to talk about rotational want to talk about rotational players. Uh, half of the Panthers playoff games are Aaron Eblad returning from suspension, which is very exciting. How much do you think the team rallied around him getting caught for using steroids in the NHL, not just letting him do his thing? Hey, that is fair banter. He got pinch cheating. He wasn’t a good player. He did some drugs. He was a good player. And now we’re going to find out if he’s still a good player. uh he had a terrible first game back and then he had a a huge second game back and part of the benefit of him coming back for that second game was him getting suspended for the third game because I was a little worried about him uh after what I saw. Uh I don’t know the juryy’s definitely out well the jury ruled on Aaron Necklad, but I think that that’s a that’s a fair bit of banter. Look, the last two guys that got pinched for performance enhancers are both Florida Panthers. Who had Nate Schmidt being the more dominant 88 in this series? So, I know. So, I said earlier in the series, I was like, “Thank God the Panthers are getting significant contributions from the cheater to make up for losing their cheater.” Uh, because that’s exactly what happened. Nate Schmidt became a god in the in the absence of Aaron Ecklad. Yeah, look, I you guys are obviously bossing guys. I think that the hatred for the Florida Panthers was a little unfair. I understand Chucky plays a style that gets under people’s skin, but I mean, when you’re getting it from Boston fans that have been celebrating that style, it’s just a little odd. This is the first year that I feel like all that trash talk about Florida being kind of dirty, being agitators, skirting the rules. Look, we went to long-term IR that was always a bit of banter that the Florida Panthers fans use against other teams. That’s that was something that Tampa did. That was something that Vegas did. Wasn’t something that Florida did. And you have the Aaron Ecklad stuff. So yeah, look, I guess it’s a hard lean in. We We’ll wear the black hat finally. I I’m I’m very conflicted about the Eblad stuff. I I’m also very confused. Um was he back to his good form because of this of the steroids, because of the performance enhancers? I mean, they enhance performance. So, I’m very curious to see how this goes the the rest of the way. But no, fair game by you. Totally. Eklad slander is fine in my opinion. How did you feel? I mean, famously, you were on the fence when the Panthers got Brad Marsh on. How did you feel when they got you? You were thinking about it. Never was on the fence. You were you were like, I got to got to look up some numbers on this guy. Got to check some JFresh charts and see what the the player card says about him. I’ll I’ll be back to you. How did you feel when the team got Seth Jones? Because this show has been trading Seth Jones to a contender for over a year now. And when the Panthers got him, we were in the middle of the stadium series at Ohio Stadium and we hit the roof. We were so excited. I I I really like Seth Jones as a player. Uh getting to know him more now, but he’s been in the league for quite some time. And uh I I think I’m I know that he runs point on on power plays, but I’ve actually been he he had a couple really good moments where he was isolated on defense, stopping a breakaway single-handedly. Some really big plays that don’t necessarily jump out in the box score. Uh, I love the Seth Jones acquisition. It turned out to be big, especially with EClad missing so much time because of the cheating. Uh, but Seth Jones, look, this team is loaded. That’s why I was a little confused at the predictions. I’m like, you can you can pay attention to Florida’s form, understand that they have some new pieces, but of all the teams that have come through Florida, the President’s uh trophy winners, the uh the Eastern Conference champions that beat the Boston Bruins when they trailed 3-1 in this series, and then you know, Montour and Very, you know, you remember that stuff very well. Uh and then the team that uh ended the Bruins dynasty last year. I think top to bottom, this is the most loaded Panther roster ever. So, in terms of just talent, uh, your favorite player, you know, can barely crack the ice. So, I I think that people were really really underestimating the heart of a champion that was more talented than it’s ever been. And I’m I’m glad that you guys are eating some crow a little bit, realizing just hitting your forehead like, my god, what were we doing? The champs. They’re the they’re the champs. And you know, our our our favorite player for them is, you know, just, you know, toiling away at the in the third line, hoping he’s not going to get scratched for Mackie Samovich. Can I tell you something that I hope upsets you? Nothing can upset me today. Nothing can upset me today. Nothing. I’ve known Brad Marshon for a very long time. I promise. Sorry to hear that. He would [ __ ] love you. He would love you. Sean’s nodding in agreement. He would love you so much. And I don’t know what you what could you do with that. Yeah, do me do me a favor. Clip this and send it to Brad Marshand. More of what you did the last game. You’ve been terrible since you you climbed out of the womb. You’re an awful person. And even if you lift Lord Stanley over your head, I’m gonna turn my back to you. I hate you. I was gonna ask, is there anything Brad Marshian could do that could sell you on Brad Marshian? I don’t think so. I think he’s a pretty bad person. And uh he’s not a bad person, dude. No, he’s he’s a really bad guy. He’s a really bad guy. Every and everyone that knows him tries to tell me, “Hey, this guy’s a good guy. You’d really get along. He’d like your passion for it.” I’d say, “Don’t ever make that intro. Stay away from me. Meeting him is the absolute worst thing you could do for your hatred of him.” Because I also hated him. And then I met him and it ruined it. No, you don’t want to see what happens if we’re in the same room. You don’t want to see what happens. I got a lot I got a lot to get off my chest for Brad Moran. Sean is a diehard Buffalo Sabres fan and he wants to hate Brad Marshon. Brad Marshon was so nice to him. Even wished him best of luck with the whole Sabres thing. That was a little Sean was like that [ __ ] I was going to be that part was a little kind of an [ __ ] move, but I still like it. You remember You remember when Brad Marshon was going in for something dirty on Sam Bennett and then he just skated into his fist and everyone was like Sam Bennett so dirty on Mar that was certainly an interpretation of what happened on that part. ate it into his fist. He actually he planted magnets in Sam Bennett’s glove and then put them in his mouth to pull his fist towards him. That Yeah, that was definitely a Brad Marshon thing. Chad is suggesting dirty play against Brad Marshon by Brad Marshon. Chad is suggesting you might kiss if you’re ever in the same room. So that’s can’t like it was nothing in a second. No. Honestly, if we both got We can’t even kiss. Our schnozes are too big. Like I don’t think it’s like humanly possible if we tried to. He’s nimble though. He’s small. He can move around. He’s a lot shorter. Oh my god. I’d tower over him. I just It would be a funny looking couple. But I don’t like Brad Marshon. Never will. Uh I am happy that he made some solid contributions. I’ve been waiting for that since we acquired him. So I’ll I’ll put in, you know, you can maybe chalk it up to a blind squirrel finding a nut every now and then, but he plays on a really good line. Any anybody that’s paired with Lucy and Lundell over the last three years in the season is elevated by those guys. for me. Like I understand wanting to make the story about Brad Marshian, but hopefully the star power of Brad Marshan turns attention to two of the more underrated players in the NHL. He does play on a good line. Uh who’s the best player on that line, would you say? I I think it’s Lendell in terms of two-way. Yeah. Yeah. Lendell is the best. Brad Marshon. I think Marshan’s the best player on that line. I think Brad Marshon is easily the worst player on that line. I think there’s quite a large Gulf. I think it’s a interchangeable parts. It It’s proven. You put anybody on that line with those guys, they deliver. I’m gonna ask what is probably going to be proven to be a very stupid question. Do you care about who you meet in the second round here? Do you have a preference? Um, you know, I I went to Tallaladega last week and I ran into a bunch of uh Toronto Maple Leafs fans and I was showing them video of them chanting we want Florida. Like they hadn’t learned their lesson. Since then, uh Toronto’s dropped too straight to Ottawa. I I think uh in terms of preference, I think the drama of Senators Panthers over the last few years, it’s been a sneaky physical rivalry. These teams do not like each other. They’re constantly fighting. They’ve had some wild games. I think Brady and Matthew playing on opposite sides is tremendous television. But also, uh, you know, shutting the door on this incarnation of the Toronto Maple Leafs also is a bit enticing given that, you know, we ended the Rangers, we ended the Bruins, stole their legend, definitely ended the Lightning. I thought we ended the Lightning last time and then they went ahead and traded for Gensel, who uh, you know, has his disappearing act. Um, so I’d like to end the Toronto Maple Leafs, too. But I think in terms of drama and just just more fun to watch for casuals uh and and super fans alike is is Ottawa. I’d like to see Toronto blow a three-0 lead. That that’d be pretty great, too. So whether it’s us or Ottawa, go for it. They’re gone. Mike Ryan, this chat and everyone here has absolutely loved you. You have been an incredible guest. The chat is saying things like this guy versus a gorilla would rule. Uh, this guy versus 100 gorillas as 100 men versus this guy in a gorilla suit. Oh, right. Nice. Okay. Another person said, “This person is clearly named Mike just based on vibes.” I saw earlier it was uh, “This guy was born on Long Island. I don’t care where he was actually born. He is the most Long Islander in the world.” So, there you go. Chad loves you. I’ll take I’ll take that as a compliment. Thank you. Thank you. There’s a lot of people in your chat that hate Brad Marshian apparently. That’s great. I’m We are We are kin. We are I don’t think we’ve ever checked on whether our listeners like or hate Brad Marshon because we’ve just shoved Brad Marshon content down their throat for two years without asking any questions. Really? Wait, dude. So, you would you would like what we do with Brad Marshon because we have him on and we [ __ ] with him. Yeah, I’m I’m aware he’s very playful. I I understand like why people would claim I would like him. I never want to meet the man. Uh just, you know, I just picked I imagine him as a mercenary. You know, it’s not that it’s a guy that I need on that wall. I don’t necessarily want him on that wall, but I need him on that wall. You know, there’s going to We need the rotational wingers to step up to win a cup. We all know this. Terraenko had had his role to play last year, and that’s basically what Brad Marshawn is at this stage in his career, a waterlogged Vladimir Terasenko. What what will hurt you more this off season if Brad Marshand extends with the Florida Panthers or when the Bruins offer sheet Mackey Samuskevich? Uh uh Lord knows I don’t want either of those two things to happen but uh yeah the Bruins going after Mackey I think Mackey is really underrated. I think he’s really talented on the puck. And it’s not a it’s not a it’s not a bit. I genuinely think Mackey is better than Brad Moran. And I definitely think that Jesper on the on the puck is certainly more skilled than Brad Morshan at this stage in his career, but Brad Moran, he had a look, I it’s not the day to attack Brad Marshan. He literally just had his best game as a Florida Panther. I I I signed Enormous Steel. Like there’s a peace treaty at least until the next round. You play well. I I can eat it. I like if he was a good player since the time of his acquisition, I’d be not the first but among the first to say, “Hey, good game 63.” Last night, hand up. Good game for 63. Let’s see more of those. I don’t I don’t want to get chirped the one time a week he decides to have a point. Oh, did you see that pass for Brad Marshon? Yeah, your last tweet was eight eight days ago where it was just dead silence for four games. He needs to be a bit more consistent. Okay, we are going to make a carousel on Instagram of quote graphics of all the horrible [ __ ] you’ve said about Brad Marshand and end it with one that says, “Today is not the day to attack Brad Marshand. All of the bad things you said followed by, let’s not be crazy here, though. Let’s not say anything bad about the guy.” I did call him a [ __ ] and I do feel bad about that because it’s not a word that I like to say, but I was so shocked at your tone and welcoming a guest that I was just I felt attacked and I was just scanning my brain and [ __ ] was the most recent insult that I heard. I don’t like calling people a [ __ ] and I sincerely apologize to Brad Marshen for that. He is an [ __ ] I will say that. I’ll be the first to say that. He is a huge [ __ ] Uh but you you’re not you’re not a [ __ ] if you play hockey. Um he was a [ __ ] in that Boston series though. Why? Or he displayed like bitch-like behavior. I’m not going to call him a [ __ ] but he acted like a [ __ ] I really do now want to make like a What’s the limit, Sean? Do we know the limit for uh images for images you could put on them? It’s 20 now. We’re just going to make the It’s 20ized. I want the entire context. Please, if you’re going to put out a graphic, I want everything that I just said there because I think it I don’t, you know, I don’t want to be like Bill Bichc and have you guys establish a false narrative. I just I want it to be clear that I don’t think he’s a [ __ ] but he displays bitch-like tendencies. How about this? As long as we’ll let you collaborate on what the title of the post will be and because it’s because as we know, it’s not about the content of it. It’s what the the headline is going to be. He got that from Jordan, I think. Yeah, I’ve seen those on three graphics where they just call someone a fraud and it’s just, you know, it’s eternity and I it’s forever. So like I don’t want like one I don’t want like my face and just the the word [ __ ] over over my head. Like that’s not going to be fun. Oh, that’s absolutely going to happen. It’s going to be your face. It’s going to say there’s going to be a quote. It’s going to say [ __ ] in huge letters and then underneath it it says Mike Ryan on Brad Marsh. Perfect. Thanks for the idea. Much appreciated. Yeah, I’m always glad we workshopped that one. You are the the greatest. Uh you you are welcome back anytime. I don’t know if you’re going to want to come back, but you’ve been maybe the most entertaining guest we’ve ever had, including Brad Marshand. Oh, well, I’m definitely better than Brad Marshian. That’s not establishing a high bar, but uh is also because he’s like what, 5 foot7? Yeah. Hey, now I would I would tower over him. I know Pete, I’m sorry you’re a short king, but look how look how big you’ve gotten. That’s that’s the benefit of being a short king is like you get very vast. That’s true. That’s true. You’ve built mass mini fridge. Yeah, brother. You doing you doing the teen, huh? You doing the teen? I am not. I’m an all natural boy. He’s on the exclad diet. I’m an all natural boy. I don’t lie. Oh, really? There’s nothing bad with teen. Little five milligram. Little five milligram. You know, Rory Maroy does 20 milligrams every day. That’s crazy. Good for him. Uh, but I used to do a lot, but then I got water logged and you know it. You got you got to drink a lot of water, Pete. That’s a problem. I like you pretending that you’re not on creatine, though. That’s I’m not very adorable. I’m not. Mike, best of luck to your Florida Panthers going forward. I do not think they will need it because whatever, they could cheat. They could do whatever they want and they will be okay because they are unstoppable. Just just to be clear, I don’t think Brad Marshen is a [ __ ] He just acts like one. That’s the 21st quote. Unfortunately, I don’t think it will fit on the Instagram carousel will just get cut off. It’s the great Mike Ryan of uh Metoark and Levitar Show. Thank you, my friend. Go Cats Cooerov. Enjoy Cancun. I’m flying to Mexico tomorrow. I hope to see you. You loser. You loser. You loser. All right, there he is. What a guest. What a guest. What a time. And some of the when I was saying like chat loves you, some of the people were like [ __ ] that. No, we don’t. I was like some of them do. Cry more. I loved it. I enjoyed every second of that. He was great. That’s what I want in a guest. Incredible. Good times. And uh if you want to have good times, you should head to hockey games. How do you do it? Glad you asked. Vivid Seats. NHL playoffs are underway. So there’s no better time to be in the arena experiencing that intensity in person. 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One more time, I know that was a lot of words. code what chaos50 off at factormeals.com/w whataos50 off for 50% off plus free shipping on your first box to to be clear it is definitively not murder because the definition of murder is killing one human oh buy another meat is not murder your heart out check the facts well check get some facts it could be Jim Calhoun it could be Jeffrey Dmer is that what You already did that. Yeah, I mean shout out that one. If you’re venturing into like let’s not pretend it’s not possible. Fair. You know, you’re not wrong. Okay. Uh I just received a fun text from a maniac friend of mine who had a great idea. I think a great idea. He said, “Uh, you want to make tonight crazy? Bet the Toronto Maple Leafs money line. I think I’m going to do that. I’m going to make the game that game extra frantic.” I don’t think it needs it. Yeah. I mean, it definitely does not need it. And it like playoff hockey doesn’t need it anyway. I don’t I barely bet on playoff hockey. There’s already enough [ __ ] and stress eating and like [ __ ] up my life. What’s that? I prize picks. I DFS, right? But I’m saying like straight Yeah. I mean, DFSing is different. DFSing doesn’t add stress to me. It’s like uh doing a little puzzle thing. Yeah. It’s a glass of wine, right? whereas, but like straight up going money line on I need this team to win in the playoffs, especially with the lease the way they’re playing right now. I think I’m going to do that. Don’t switch up anything that you uh haven’t done for the past two games. Don’t [ __ ] with a juju. True. I guess true. I don’t think that we have that much power. I did consider uh I was getting dressed today and normally I I think normally I’m like a pants first guy, but I grabbed a black shirt and I was like, “Oh, I’m going to wear black for the king’s funeral tonight.” And then I realized you’re wearing Kings colors that I would just be dressing up the Kings fan. So, I’m not going to do that. So, uh I got a little something going. Uh we’re not going to have much time to discuss the or like preview these games. I’ll just say Edmonton win tonight. Hard to win in the [ __ ] and you did it once and that’s great. I don’t think the Kings have choked their way out of anything. I think they are very much still alive. Close it out tonight. I’ll even say if the Kings win tonight. I will think the Kings will win the series. So, take care of your business. And Maple Leafs, yeah, you might want to win tonight because if you lose tonight, is anybody in the world picking the Leafs to do the Panthers thing of blowing the three-0 lead and then still winning. I am because I have to be consistent. The Leafs are going to do the whole like, well, if you told us at the beginning of the series we’d have a a chance to win on home ice in game seven. Oh, we’re going to get the the best two words in sports after they’ve pissed away three straight games against the Senators. I I we haven’t talked about it. I also hate that so much because it’s just ignoring the big elephant in the room, which is you had a chance to win in four games. If you told you at the beginning of the series that you had a chance to win in a game seven on home ice, but also you had a chance to win in game four, you wouldn’t say, “Well, absolutely take that.” You’d say, “Give me the game four.” And also, if somebody if someone said to you, you’re going to have game seven on home ice, your response is not, I’ll take that. Your response is, what happened? Why? Why is there go, did we come back? Did they come back? Did we blow it? Game seven means that someone blew a lead. Who’s the ones that did it? Was it a big league? It was the biggest one possible. Ah, [ __ ] Especially none of those words were, “We’ll take it.” Especially for the Leafs. Like, you’re trying to you’re trying to exercise some demons. You’re trying to make things look different this year than in years past. So, yeah, you definitely wouldn’t take that game seven after you blew a 3 series lead. So, better hope you do it tonight. Good luck. It’s going to be a fun one. Uh, the Lightning are out famously as the Panthers have advanced to play the Carolina Hurricanes in what will be a I’m sorry, the Panthers have uh gone to face the winner of the Battle of Ontario, I should say, Capitals playing the Hurricanes. There’s that. But with the Lightning out, many are asking, is John Cooper also out? This was his 12th season with the team and third straight year in which the Lightning have been eliminated in the first round. Yes, the three before that all ended in the Stanley Cup final. They won two of those. But John Cooper has now coached 12 seasons for the Lightning, which is crazy. Bless you, Sean. He’s 57 years young, 12 seasons with the team, has one more year on his contract. He signed through next season, and speculation abound on his future. Would there be a parting of the ways? Would he want to leave? Would the Lightning want to leave? Would maybe he take a year off? Greg Washinsky asked yesterday on the sheet and or two days ago on the sheet and say maybe go work for his friend Ryan Smith in Utah. Lots of questions about the future of John Cooper. Pete, I’m a big ask the question guy, but do you think it’s a good question right now or do you think that this makes no sense for either one to want this? I I’m I’m surprised by it all. I’m very surprised by it all. I would not throw John Cooper into like the top five reasons that the Lightning lost that series, especially after they finished the regular season as arguably the best team in the Eastern Conference. So, I don’t really know where the question’s kind of coming from. I know he’s got a year left on his contract. Maybe that’s part of the reason, but the randomness of it all makes me wonder if somebody’s hearing something, you know, like when when a question like that comes out of nowhere, you’re like, it had to come from somewhere. And it probably wasn’t just some dumb idiot asking a question. You might forget this. Petey was saying it on our show early in the season. He said, “Who’s the first coach to get fired?” And he was like, “Don’t rule out John Cooper.” And we said, “What? We will rule out John Cooper.” And now here we are at the end of the year asking that same old question. You say it’s coming from somewhere. Maybe it’s a negotiating ploy for John Cooper. He’s tight with Breeze. They work great together, but maybe he’s saying to ownership, I pay me like the best coach in the NHL because I think that I am. Maybe it’s that. Maybe it’s you get this murmur out there that what would happen if he’s gone? There’s a bajillion head coaching vacancies. So many of these teams would trip over their you know whats to get him. Maybe it’s just a negotiating ploy. Sean, you got something? Well, I just my I don’t want to move too far away from Cooper. I just don’t like that this conversation is centered around him going to Utah. But that means it’s replacing Bear. I mean, Bear, who’s been such a good coach for that team, has gotten them to I I think perform above expectations like year in and year out. So, if it’s to replace him in that sense, I also saw I think Daki in the chat see something about him going to management. certainly don’t want him replacing uh BA. I think BA has put that franchise in a terrific position. So, I don’t like the fact that he’s being tied to Utah unless it’s more of like a above BA hockey ops. Like if he wants to move out out from behind the bench, different story, but I just don’t like the Utah of it all. That’s all. Let me give you the I want to see Bear get his big part of that. Let me give you the coaching vacancies. You got the Bruins, you got the Ducks, you got the Rangers, you got the Kraken, you got the Flyers, you got the Blackhawks, you got the Penguins. And as of a couple of days ago, do you folks know this? You got the Vancouver Conucks. If he is to leave, and I’m assuming that if he left Tampa, it would be in some sort of actual mutual parting of the ways. I don’t think that you fire John Cooper. Are any of those teams super tantalizing to him? I think we can assume that the Rangers are going to throw a huge bag at Mike Sullivan, so maybe that’s that job ends up being taken anyway. I don’t know. like Ducks would be a lot of fun for Cooper. He goes from one market that isn’t super crazy but with a really good team to a team that maybe could eventually get there and also doesn’t have the biggest light on it. Ducks could be a lot of fun. But Blackhawks pressure cooker. Conucks that’s close to home. He’s from BC. Pressure cooker. Kraken meh. Flyers meh. And pressure cooker. Bruins. I I need a different term. Pressure cooker. I don’t want to keep saying that, but like what’s that? I just don’t see it. Yeah. Why would you at this point? Why would you go from Tampa to Boston? I think if anything, it’s the year off. I think he stays in Tampa or he takes a year. Bruins can’t wait a year. That’s like they’re not going to wait a year to find their coach. No, no, no, no. I’m saying that Cooper either stays in Tampa or he takes a year off, meaning he doesn’t go to any of these teams. Yeah. And he sees what ends up popping up next year. Because if you were to say to John Cooper and he’s thinking of going somewhere else, if you take a year off, the Ducks, Bruins, Rangers, Flyers, Kraken, Blackhawks, and uh Penguins, and Canucks are all going to get filled. He would say, “Okay, yeah, I don’t want to go to any of those teams.” He would also still be getting paid and uh he could do like TV. I know we’ve had this conversation briefly before. A couple of people in the chat have suggested him going to LA. Do you think there’s any playoff teams that are going to fire the coach? Yeah, we Yeah, that’s I think Jim Hiller would be a candidate to get fired. I don’t know if the Kings would actually pull the trigger, but if anybody has made a case to be fired in the first round, it would be Jim Hiller. And I also think I also think Cooper being a valuable changes the math on that a little bit where if you feel confident you can get Cooper much easier fire. I would like John Cooper in LA. And if I were Cooper I would love the Kings. If I were Cooper I’d like the Kings or the Ducks. Those probably the top two teams on my list if if the LA job opens up. He’s he’s also like as we’ve seen we saw in this series he’s a little Hollywood. Like him being in LA would be fun just from a personality perspective. It’s a good point in chat. Uh he works in a tax-free state. Mhm. So Dbor if he chokes away this series famously there are taxes in California. You Dbor. Yeah. I mean if I was just I was just going to another taxree state. I get it but like if if Dbor loses a series it’s going to be in a game seven. And would anybody really hold that? I mean, it’s going to be in a game seven after losing two straight to the I I don’t think it would necessarily be I think it would be more a product of the fact that it’s a little bit of a brindle thing where it’s just like year after year you just haven’t been able to get over like the hump. But I I think it I think that it would be a stretch to think that DB gets fired after this, especially when he’s kind of coached coach Bedar in this. I I literally only brought up Dbor because of the tax-free aspect of it, but Oh, here’s a good one. This is crazy. But I was wondering, I think Pete, you sent a text about this early in the series, is there any way if the Oilers flame out, would they move on from Chris Knoblock, John Cooper, head coach of the Edmonton Oilers, you go from Stamco and Headman and Cooerov to Dryidle and one more year of McDavid before he goes to Philadelphia and Buchard longterm. Emerson’s been signed back up. Pickard has a few more years left in him. If I’m John Cooper, I am not going to that franchise unless I know Conor McDavid is there for the foreseeable future. And I know people weren’t happy about that conversation, but the fact of the matter is he is not contractually obligated currently to the Oilers for the foreseeable future. And also the Oilers were the Oilers were looking for an excuse to hire Chris Knoblock. Well, that’s the other thing. Like that’s the other part of that math is like if you want to keep Conor McDavid and he is still gung-ho about Mob Block, you can’t really fire that guy. Yeah. I’ll say this. We discussed uh I think Pete said if Cooper takes a year off, you can catch his breath, do TV. If Jim Hiller is to we’ll say have to take a year off, do podcast. Got we got a spot for you, buddy. Coupe taking a year off would be perfect for a couple of reasons because a if you’re Utah and you really want him, like you give like it’s perfect because if if uh Bearer doesn’t make the playoffs with Utah next year, I think it it’s understandable to want to move on. And as a Buffalo Sabres fan, the Sabres don’t make the playoffs next year. He’s not going to avoid process. And everyone says in that moment, why are you going to the Flyers? Mechov, yeah, sure. It’s the beginning of we’re building it for McDavid. I mean, we we all we’re all of the belief that Rick Tocket is like a foregone conclusion for Philly, right? I’m I’m lightly penciling in talk to Philly and Sullivan to the Rangers. I mean, the only thing that makes me hesitant about Tak to Philly is what Petey said the other day that he just doesn’t think that Taket has any interest in coaching a team like that right now, which completely makes sense to me. Like, if he was He’s a year removed from being one of the best teams in the Western Conference. No coach would actually say though that they wouldn’t they they didn’t have interest in coaching that team. No, it’s never happened before. Definitely not on the record. Not definitely not recently. Uh do we want to talk about the uh some of the games last night because there was an interesting one in uh in good old Winnipeg. Yeah. Don’t I mean Battle of Florida had some good coaches sniping at each other, but this this Winnipeg series, man, can’t make heads or tails of it. So far, you could say it’s chalkish in that the home team has won every game. And that continued last night in game five. Jets bounced back, beat the Blues 5-3. They lead the series 3-2. Connor Halabuk after saying that he studies goalending more than anybody else in the world. Uh looked like he was studying goalending instead of playing goalie at one point and allowed the worst n the worst goal worst goals of the playoffs. That Trevor Moral one man still I was going to say I know you were going to bring that one up. No, this one was so inexcusable especially Conor Hob. Yeah, I was going to say there have been some bad goals and they’ve been by either bad goalies or goalies who are having bad seasons. Connor Halbuck is not having a bad season. He’s having a bad postseason, but when Connor Halbuck allows the goal that he allowed last night, you ask what is wrong with him. When Calvin Pickard allows a terrible goal, you don’t say what’s wrong with Calvin Pickard. You say, “Godamn it Calvin Pickard.” And that was a self-proclaimed statement game for Connor Hellbuck. He said like this is who I’m going to be for the rest of the series moving forward. and then he lets up that goal. Like it was a very confusing and uh somewhat bipolar game for Connor Hobbuck last night. He made some unbelievable saves. But I honestly think that that was the worst goal given up this postseason. And I also part of me believes that that goal helped the Winnipeg Jets win that game last night because if you look at the way that they played after Konahelluck gave up that insanely bad goal, the Jets did not let the Blues have the puck for like the remainder of that game. And I really do think there’s a chance part of that was because they were so terrified that Hella Buck might be broken and that had you see teams fix their defense all the time, their team defense by just tossing in the backup goalie for a game or two. And that makes them realize we cannot screw around at all. And yeah, it’s a you texted that last night and I was like, I can’t believe that you could say that about Connor Hellabuk, but I believe it and I agree with it and I think it’s a good point. That’s where the Jets are right now. What do we give? So, this guy studies. What’s our grade? What’s our report card for Connor Hobb? It’s almost like an incomplete because he didn’t have a big workload. He really didn’t face many shot the third period because of score effects. I think he got some work and he looked pretty good, but really honestly after he gave up that atrocious goal, there was not a lot of work after that. So like had the Blues really put the pressure on or been able to even get shots on him, I think you would have had a better idea as to what the the full grade on Connor Hobbuk was last night. Okay. Can we ask what will Hellabuk do in game six back in St. Louis? because I did not see a strong enough performance from him last night to change my belief going into that game, which is whatever happens, he’s getting lit up in St. Louis in game six. And I almost tweeted it, but I was like, uh, people won’t understand. And also, we don’t always need to tweet after that game. Like, Eric Comry game six question mark. No, not after a joke. Yeah, but like I feel like we know what’s going to happen in hell to helluck in game six. I I I will say I’m still a little worried about Winnipeg, especially Mark Shley might be hurt. That could be absolutely devastating. And if Hello Bucks sucks or is not good. Uh they this is still a series. Definitely still a series. You mentioned Mark Shiffley getting hurt. We don’t do Hitchat on this show, but Pete, as you noted before the show, coaches are finding a way to worm Hit Chat in. Even if we’re not the ones doing Hitchat, they’re doing such strong Hit Chat. And we got this a little bit with the Battle of Florida that Hitchat finds its way on, even if it’s not out of our mouth. So, we’ll give you the rundown on what happened. Mark Shiffley took a big hit from Braden Shen in the first period, who’s given a double minor for interference. Shley stayed in the game and then on his last shift of the first period took a big hit from uh Radic Faxa and did not come back after the first intermission. Now the Shen hit was bad. He is not getting any sort of supplemental discipline for it. But as I noted he Shley stayed in the game after that hit and then at the end of the first period after taking another big hit didn’t come back in the game. This is Jim Montgomery after the game was that uh yes it was about the Shen hit and let’s make it clear 55 got hurt from the faxa hit. He played six minutes after the Shen hit. He didn’t come back after he got rocked by faxa. I keep getting distracted by the fact that he said after he got rocked by faxa as if to say like also he’s a [ __ ] Ser, there is there was some spice in that whole statement. Me and Sean were talking about it like calling him 55 and like not giving him an a name. I know that’s like coach speak. Parcelsian, but it’s like uh that’s something you do for a fourth liner you don’t really you’re not familiar with. Right. It’s Mark Scheler. That’s Mark. Pretty good player. 55. Uh Dr. Jim, we’ve decided that uh Jim Montgomery has a doctor’s degree. he is diagnosing players on the other team. I don’t think that was very necessary. I do not think it was necessary for him to define how a player on the other team got injured. I will say he might be right because No, he might he might be right. The box hit was more violent. No. What’s that from? You’re just a guy just yells no. Uncle Scott did it, but not that’s uh it sounds like no. No. Turn him off. Get him off. Yeah, maybe that’s what it is. But no, no, no. Why do you think we’re waiting until Montgomery Oh, no. No. Uh Montgomery is suspending disbelief in such a way and he knows that players get hurt and then keep playing and then a smaller or different and yes in this case he did Jim get rocked by Foxa but he got hurt on the Shen thing. He get this happens all the time. I That’s fair. I don’t know. Just like he doesn’t know. Yeah, that’s what I was gonna say. It’s unnecessary for him to say it. I think if I were to believe I think there’s reason to believe he’s right that Foxy got hurt. He doesn’t need to go up in front of a microphone and say it and diagnose how another player got hurt. What I’m saying is to say definitively he didn’t come back after this hit. Therefore, this is the hit that hurt him. Nathan Horton got hurt in a fight with Jerome McGinla late in the 2013 season. He played all throughout the playoffs and then in I want to say game one or two of the Stanley Cup final took a little hit from Nicholas Jmerson and his shoulder was just like toast. He did not have a shoulder anymore. He got hurt with the Aginda thing. The Jolmer Merson thing, which was so much less severe, is what made it so he can no longer play anymore. So yes, if you want to say it’s a last straw, whatever, anything like that, you just because he stopped playing after one thing does not mean that’s the thing where the injury occurred. And Jim Montgomery, who has coached and coached in the playoffs when players tough it out, knows that. Can I put a $5 bill in the tip jar and make a request right now? A song request? Yes. Can you do a little bit of uh rocked rock the Caspa uh in the in the form of Rocked by Foxa? Oh, like for me to do now or to cook up? I’d rather cook it up. Okay. Maybe that’s a for a real after the show. Yeah, let’s workshop this. Okay. Okay. So, live. We’ll just Yeah. Okay. So, here’s what we do. Be like, “What did you guys think of what Jim Montgomery had to what Jim Montgomery and Scott Arneal,” who, by the way, Scott O’Neal was like, “You shouldn’t say that. [ __ ] that. It was good sniping. We do have to play.” Whatever. But we we do It’s a little batty, but we set it up as though it’s going to be about the back and forth. And then once he says rock by faxa, it just changes to the rock the casba and it’s like every time it’s rock by faxa the hit and it’s really uh do you ever see you see those like like uh like highlight edits where it’ll be like a clip of something completely random and they’ll be talking for like a minute and a half and the last word will be like LeBron James and all of a sudden it’s a LeBron James highlight reel. You gotta do that and all of a sudden do that. Anyway, we should show we should do clips of our show while someone is like pressing something squishy. What? You know the thing where like the top half of Oh, that’s not what I was talking about. But I do know what you mean. Yeah. No, I was talking about like like there’s a there’s a trend of like highlight reels where it’ll be like a clip from like Malcolm in the Middle or something like that and they’ll be talking about it’ll literally just be a scene from the show, nothing related to sports, but then they’ll happen to mention like Kobe Bryant in it and as soon as they hit Kobe Bryant, it turns into a Kobe Bryant highlight reel and it’s like like hype music starts playing. One of the best one of the best ones that I saw was like somebody it was like a clip from a TV show and then the final word was like 16 and then it was just Josh Josh Giddy highlights. Yeah. Oh yeah. Amazing. I’m into that. Okay, here’s Scott Arneil’s response to Jim Montgomery. Scott, you had a long discussion with the referee before the second. What were your thoughts on the Shen hit? Well, I didn’t know Monty got his medical degree. I’m trying to say how our player got hurt. He’s way off base. Should not make that comment. There’s some things that have been going on in this series and that was a repeat of what we’ve seen before. a player leaving his feet and then hitting a player in a a very unprotected spot. Like hitting them in the sense of almost blindsiding them. Not happy how the call was made. Two-minute minor, not even looking at it is what I was upset about. And it is something that we have talked to the league about for five games. Okay. I didn’t need anything other than like the first three seconds because [ __ ] there there’s a lot of hit chat there that I’m just going to ignore. Do that on your own time, Scott. But I like that he was like he’s way off on this. Monty is out of his depths on this one. And I think we all know that Scott has uh no sense of humor. No time for any of this. He would not do well in the Eastern Conference. Definitely not do good in Florida. Him in the Battle of Florida way out of his depth. He would be pissed. He wouldn’t be able to hack it. God, he’s gonna [ __ ] say Maurice is going to run circles around him in the final. Will kill Paul Maurice that like that guy is so mad and you would think that his team lost based off of his energy in that press conference. Yes. Oh yeah, his team won that game. That’s a good point. I I for that that if you didn’t know how those game how that game ended, you would think that Montgomery feels a little guilty that his team won and kind of cheated their way towards doing it. Not what happened. They lost. Home team is up three games to two. Everything should be happy for that team and instead, oh no, that makes me worry about the health of Mark Shifley because Arneil has the energy of somebody who is like, “Motherfucker, I just lost one of my best players.” And I do have concerns about the Winnipeg Jets and their outlook of Mar Shifley is actually fully hurt because they don’t have they don’t have like the depth. But I will say Vlad Nomesikoff unbelievable night filling uh filling in for Shley last night. He looked off Kyle Connor on a twoon-one. Incredible behavior. Uh wouldn’t have done it myself but go off King. Six points. We got to wrap up the show so I can get working on that rock by faxa thing. It’s all I can think about. It’s a great idea by you Pete. Uh, six points in parts of five games for Mark Shiffley. He’s an absolute stud. And it sucks because this was the postseason where we were like, “Hell can’t do it by himself. He might not be able to do it at all. Are other guys going to show up?” And they did. And then they got rocked by Faxa. And that’s uh and that’s faxa. That’s on the dead, homies. Uh the Capitals have advanced to the second round. They will play the Hurricanes, which means the Canadians are out in five. But this is the year they arrived. And I never know if it’s good or tolerable to do the, “Hey, I’m not a fan of this team and they’ve lost.” But to fans of this team, you should be happy. No. If Canadian fans are mad, they should be mad and they should be upset. But you arrived earlier than we thought. And maybe not earlier than you thought, but earlier than a lot of us thought because you’re one of a group of teams that has been fighting for that wildcard spot, getting in and this can be the foot in the door and maybe you can have years ahead and they’ve done it. Their foot is in the door and sincerely I say to you Canadians fans, you’re going to stay there. You are like I don’t see the big step back next year that say Vancouver took from last year to this year. They’re going to have the Calder winner this year. I think they’re gonna have the Calder winner next year. Perhaps they’ve got a goalender who in year one of a sweetheart of a deal has confirmed sweetheart of a deal. Montbo for two more years at 3.15 million against the cap while Jacob Fowler gets ready to become the guy or at the very least split time with Montbo. You’ve got a good thing going Canadians. They also play this year with uh without uh Ghoulie for a long time. They’re going to get Ryan Backer back. See what he is. Like this is obviously a very young team, the youngest team in Stanley Cup playoff history. Uh they’re going to be around for a while. They’re going to get more dangerous. Hopefully there is no backslide or like sophomore slump or whatever, but there is plenty of reason to feel good about this team moving forward. They’re very exciting. Do you think the Patrick L experience has been good so far for the Canadians? Because he scored 20 goals in 52 games, which 20 goals, it’s a good marker. 52 games, that’s a good marker. But Patrick Lion will always, because we know how good he can be, will always torment us with the idea of I don’t know what more else there is out there. And let’s be real, this guy went into the playoffs as a fourth liner and had a little injury sort ofish thing. But I think, and this is just a guess, if he were playing better, he’d be in the lineup. He’d be they they’d have him play through it. Yeah, maybe. I mean, if he felt like he could. I I think that the conversation around Patrick L is always going to be like, well, how much is he leaving on the table? And unfortunately, that’s a frustrating conversation to continue having. Uh I think at this point in his career, you kind of know what you’re getting with him. And if he can score 20, 30 to goal, 20 or 30 goals, you take it. Uh, real quick, Mark Strife not traveling with out for game six. Oh, no. Bad. Not ideal. Uh, Matt Fechov this year had uh 41 points, I want to say, right? Yeah, he uh No, I’m sorry. He had 63 points, 26 goals, and 37 assists. Is that a mark that is attainable by Ivan Demidov next year? I think the biggest problem for Ivan Demadov is he has significantly better players. Yeah. On his team, like more people to to score the goals. If he finds a spot uh a consistent spot in like their top six, perhaps their top line, I think Demidov can clear. I think he gets 55 points at least. And it’s a leap because as we’ve said, we don’t know if he always totally plays hockey, but Cam Robinson has told us that he’s less of a trickster out there and more of a hockey player. Now, you are adding that to this group that yes, isn’t very deep, but you’re only getting better. You do lose David Seavard, who retires after, I believe, 860 games, won a cup with Tampa. Nice little career for him. I’ll say that the feather in the Canadians cap this year is that I didn’t think there was a planet in which David Sevard was still on the Montreal Canadians after the trade deadline, but they found themselves in the picture, own rental, kept him, made the playoffs, and I love it. You end up being the subject of Steve Eisermanman’s ammunition against his captain. Say, “Look what the Canadians did. Why can’t we be like that?” So, good on you, Canadians. We love you. Pete does at least. Uh, more breaking news. uh Dorfa about tonight as well. Oh damn. Okay. Considered day-to-day from there on according to Bruce Cass. That’s a big loss. Scores a lot of goals. Lastly, we have heart finalists. And it’s been a big year for discussing the heart because everyone has always been wrong about everything. But now we get Leon Dryidle, Connor Habibuk, and Nikita Coutrov as the three heart finalists. Only one of those guys has a goal in the playoffs. That’s right. Hilluck is it’s a lame joke, but he’s kind of helped. He’s got more helpers than Nikita Couturov does, right? Shall we say Sean, do you have the numbers on these guys? That’s okay. Uh, Dry Sidle, 52 goals, led the league, 106 points despite missing 11 games. Nikita Cucharov, 121 points, led the league, and Connor Halabuk studied goalending more than anybody else in the world this season. So, all deserve it. Who do you think wins? I think it might be Hella Buck. I want it to be Leon Dryidle. I think Leon Dryidle deserves it. I think Leon Dryidle was the best player even though he was not one of the three Ted Lindsay Award finalists. So, haters out there. I think that Leon Dryidle also said that the heart doesn’t matter to him this year. And if someone says that, don’t give it to them. Like, how that’s supposed to work. Especially because if you’re not giving it to him, then you should give it to Nikit Cutrov who for sure does not give a [ __ ] about the heart cuz I’m not sure he gives a [ __ ] about hockey. That’s fair. Yeah, but do you know what I’m saying when I say that uh Leon said it doesn’t matter to him? Like he could have played more games late in the regular season, but I think that he prioritized wanting to win the Stanley Cup, which is fine. That’s what I want him to do as well. Perhaps that strengthens his case. He’s so valuable to his team that he is willing to uh take himself out of the lineup for their chances in the playoffs. I know that it’s voted for before the playoffs start, but if a guy says I’m preserving myself for the playoffs before the playoffs start, you get to you get to put that on your ballot. Okay, just making just making the case here. Uh, Guardian Gardax Gal Galilean says, “Insane take from DJ after this whole season talking dry for the heart.” I will say I was not at all times saying dry for the heart. I was at all times saying that Dry Saddle was the best player in the league this season, which he was. And for a lot of it, I thought that he deserved to win the heart. I’m saying if he doesn’t win the heart, I’m not crying about it. And especially it makes sense to me like if you miss 11 games and you could have played more probably then I’m I’m not uh taking up a collection for I would say that’s been the one consistent part of this year’s heart conversation is you saying you don’t care if Leonado wins the heart. I think the most consistent part that by the way as I’ve said not really but I understand what like I understand what you mean in the sense that like it doesn’t really matter like I didn’t really care like I was happy that Josh won the MVP didn’t really matter like he didn’t he didn’t win the Super Bowl so like I don’t really care about him winning the the but I wanted him to win it. Yeah. So that’s what I’m trying to do. Yeah. Like I I know that you obviously would like to win the heart but ultimately him winning the Stanley Cup is much more important. I get that. I was going to say the most consistent part of the heart conversation this year has been people asking how it affects Nathan McKinnon’s uh candidacy. So, how does Nathan McKinnon not being nominated for the heart affect Nathan McKinnon’s heart candidacy? I can’t believe it took us this long to ask that question social media. I mean, I think it increases his chance of winning the heart next year. Shout out to Shout out to the chat asking the important questions. It this removes any possibility of uh McKinnon heart fatigue, so he can win it next year. So good for his heart chances. He’s locked in. It is interesting. There’s a very good chance that I mean all three of these guys Dry Sidle has been Dry Sidle’s Dry Sidle. He’s looked great in the playoffs because he is who he is. But Dryidle could potentially not get out of the first round. Helluck could potentially not get out of the first round because of Hellob. I was going to say that’s Yeah. And Karov did not get out of the first round and once again did not score in the playoffs. I was going to say Leon might not get out of the first round either. Leon, if Leon doesn’t make it out of the first round or like all three of these guys don’t make it out of the first round. Leon’s the only one who can say it wasn’t his fault. Like Coutro obviously didn’t show up and [ __ ] Hollow Buck is a mess. I know that they’re voted on before the playoffs, but I feel like there should be like playoff um contingencies. Like if if there is a top five and the four players ahead of a guy who is fifth all get eliminated in the first round, the guy who is fifth should get the heart. Yeah. I don’t really Capriov, you are the heart winner. I I don’t like the idea that like an MVP award. If you want to make an award that is most outstanding regular season player, fine. But if it’s value, like the whole point of what we’re doing here is to win a Stanley Cup. Like, who cares about how good they were, how valuable they were to their team in the regular season if they don’t win, if they burn out in the playoffs? Look at you, Lamar Jackson. The first response I saw when the heart finalists were posted scratched a particular itch of mine or whatever that pissed me off in whatever way. Pushed one of your buttons. Pushed one of my buttons. Very good, Pete. Somebody responded, uh, pasta. And for some reason, a little thing that irks me is when fans do the my guy had a good season, so why don’t you think that he had the best season? And Poserno was awesome this season. Like in terms of him versus his team, crazy. So much better than everyone else. Even though, as Pete has noted, Morgan Geeky uh should be fourth in heart voting. But that I I’ve been disappointed in Bruins fans being like, “Why isn’t Posternok the heart?” Uh, that’s I mean, you got to also consider that like a lot of people who are fans of teams only really watch their team and Posternok has a very strong case to be a heart uh not finalist, but considered for the heart based off the season that he had. Like he factored in like 50% of the Bruins goals over the second half of the year. That’s absurd and I think that he absolutely deserves consideration. But you have to consider if you’re a fan of the Bruins, other players had great seasons that make more sense in what the heart voting goes towards. So you’re either identifying yourself as like a homer or somebody who just really doesn’t know how this works. He also I I think that his heart candidacy would be to win a Taylor Hall heart in a season in which there were Leon Dryidle seasons and Nikita Cooter obviously like Taylor Hall won the heart in a year where no one put up huge numbers and he was by far the best player on a team that barely made the playoffs. He pushed his team over the edge to the playoffs. like Posterno, if the Bruins made the playoffs and Poshnock had the year that he had, even as um they were like the the eighth seed in the Eastern Conference, he probably gets a lot of consideration, right? But I would still say he wouldn’t win it given that this year, unlike when Taylor Hall won it, some guys did still put up big, albeit not huge numbers. Like I would still say Coob was better than him or I would still say Dry Saddle was better than him. But I mean I I also think that like this was my argument again with Josh Allen versus Lamar Jackson is when when it’s close like I get I I am a I am a a purist a constitutionalist when it comes to MVP awards. I factor actual value into that greatly more so than I think a lot of voters do. Uh, but like if it’s going to be close, I think you got to give it to the guy like if you are doing it as an outstanding season award, you got to give it to the guy who end ultimately did provide more value to his team. So like I think if it was close and the the the made the playoffs, like I think there is a real argument that Pasta is more valuable to his team uh than even Leon because like Leon has the greatest player in the world on his team whereas Pasta was doing it by himself. Okay, let’s look at the games tonight. Four big ones. Elimination games abound. TBS has Maple Leafs at Senators. 7 PM and Senators can do the thing. Leafs can do the thing. However way you want to slice it. This could see a game seven forced. Wild at Golden Knights at 7:30 p.m. Eastern, which is uh a little confusing. This is is is this in No, this is uh in is this is actually in Minnesota, right? Is it nights at Wild? Uh yeah, this would be in Minnesota. Yeah. Okay. So, yeah, my bad. Nights at Wild, which is still kind of confusing that it’s 7:30, but that’s neither here nor there. Then the Stars can close out the Avalanche 9:30 p.m. Eastern. And the Oilers home against the Kings have won three straight since being down 200 10 p.m. Edmonton can advance to the second round which we’ve got a lot of uh contrasting videos we’ll say up on our YouTube right now. We’ve got a the Oilers. We’re playing both sides. We’ve got uh the Oilers might really be done followed by are the Kings stupider than the Oilers? And we’ve got a This is the year for the Leafs followed I think the next day or very shortly by April April 29th we said we posted is it finally the Maple Leafs year and then April 30th we posted will map Maple Leaf fans ever learn good to be fair we’re only asking the question yes as long as it’s a just a question that’s fine this is a crazy slate this is such an a uh how many series end tonight because famously all four of them can Pete Um, I will say uh, one of them ends tonight. You can’t say which? No, that’s kind of how I feel, too. I’ll say one of them ends tonight. And I will also say that this is setting up to be a nightmare Saturday slate for me because uh, Saturday I have Ellen’s bridal shower, which I will be there in full support. It is also Ellen’s birthday on Saturday. So, uh, full day, Ellen being treated like the queen she is and me fighting for my life, trying to keep an eye on games. From a purely personal non-hockey perspective, you’re kind of rooting for all of these series to end to make your Saturday night. Definitely not all of them. Yes. Well, definitely not all of them. Will they How do Does the NHL move up the starts of series if series end early, or do they give all the teams time off? Like, if all of these were to end today, would they move up the starts of next season? I forget this. I think they wait. I could be wrong. Oh, actually, [ __ ] I don’t I genu Yeah, I don’t know. But even from a even from a personal perspect like even to make your Saturday easy, you don’t want these series over. No, not all of them leave senators. You think I want this to end tonight? But I’m I’m saying from a purely making your Saturday easy. No, it doesn’t it won’t make it easy. The Ottawa Senators are allowed to make my life [ __ ] hell on Saturday. Again, I’m not asking. I’m just asking if Yeah, I get I get what you’re saying. I would prefer a harder Saturday if it means that the Ottawa Senators are still alive and playing in a game. If you if you knew that the uh Senators were going to lose, if you knew the Leafs were winning either way, would you still want the I mean, yeah, I guess still want No, you wouldn’t want the game seven. No, no, I would want the game seven. Okay. Yeah, that’s I want I want the Leafs to win in seven if they’re going to win. Fair. Sean, the second round does or last year started for one series before uh another series was finished. So, they would move them up. Okay. So, they would just keep them going. Uh, it’s an A slate because it’s the playoffs, but it’s also an A slate because these games are crazy. Uh, I just hope I I I I hope the Oilers can close it out because I I do not think the Kings are as dead as everybody else does. I I kind of do, man. I I don’t even I don’t think necessarily the Oilers are going to like blow them out, but it just seems like the Kings, they’re they’re they’re the they’re Chiefs. You’re just not getting past this team. I should think I should think the Oilers are fine because they’re actually knock on wood like they’re good now. They look like a team that that’s very giving out five in the first now. They are not locked into that spot, brother. They look like like last game they looked like the Oilers playing the Kings where they were like, “We’re so much better than you.” And they just ran them out of the building. Yeah. I’m worried that could maybe be a one-time thing, but if you want to take a positive, you say, “All right, they are what they thought they were going to be.” And not looking ahead, but Ekholm is not out for the playoffs. That was a thing that was revealed a few days ago. The thing that you can say is that things are trending in the right direction because the Oilers have been the better team for the last like five periods of this series. I was going to when you started to say a number that wasn’t one, I was like, what are you talking about? I thought you were going to say like x amount of games and I was like no but yeah five periods yes did you did you see lines today given to me um dry perry or dry mc David Perry Kane R&Hman Frederick Henrik Brown Pod Kohlson Yanmark Arfordson nurse Buchard Wman Clenberg Koulak Emerson picker I like it and I’ll get further ahead of myself Frederick looked a little better last game Victor Arbertson you see his uh pass off the blocker on the Yan Mark goal. Pretty nice. I I don’t want the Oilers to win the series. Wow. Sean swinging today. But I don’t want this to be the way the Jeff Skinner experience ends. So, for that reason, I kind of want the Oilers. So, I I need Jeff Skinner to have an opportunity to to have I need him to have an opportunity to have a playoff moment. Oh, right. Right. I was going to Okay. I was worried you were going to say an opportunity to redeem himself and I was going to remind he’s done nothing wrong. No, he’s done nothing wrong but he hasn’t had the opportunity to have his moment yet. And I I need like a I don’t want anybody to get hurt or anything but like I want game seven Jeff Skinner winner like oh yeah like Jeff Skinner game seven hero all season even when he was being benched at some point a team is going to do everything right against the Oilers and then [ __ ] Jeff Skinner is going to score a goal and it’s going to break their brains. Yeah. Yeah. I I need Jeff Skinner moment. Okay, we will see what happens. And if these games go to overtime, you can find us on our YouTube page. Make sure you subscribe because we go live when the games go into overtime. 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