Green Bay Packers Power Rankings Following NFL Draft! – Mr. Irrelevant Ep. 249

Yeah, way we go. The Monday edition, Mr. Relevant. I’m Alex Stro with you from the Gerber offices. One call. That’s all. Studio at the Avenue in downtown Milwaukee. I don’t know where Josh is. Haven’t seen him in the last 5 minutes. Maybe he’ll show up at some point. Hunter Vaughn is back. Oh, there he is. Now he walks in. Good. Cuz I mean given what I’ve made for this opening segment here. I mean, that would have made it tough if he just skipped out on the show. Yeah. I mean, I wouldn’t have shocked me given what he’s been up to recently. The lower third for those of you listening on the uh audio stream says Josh era Joshy is on generational run and now he strolls in for the second episode in a row two minutes late. Busy guy. What’s going on with you? Um I don’t know. I’m feeling pretty good. Had a good weekend. Did some fun stuff. Like what? I went to our friends over at Xolf Brookfield yesterday. Spent three hours at the sim. golf. Pretty nice round. A lot of birdies, a lot of pars. No, no big deal. Okay. What else did you do? Uh um I actually broke into a house this weekend. Okay. You were asked to break into a house. That is important. You did have the homeowner’s permission. Uh yes, I received permission. Um there was a wedding shower this weekend for my friend’s sister. People in and out of her house. They managed to lock not one, not two, but three sets of keys all inside the house. So, while they were all out partying, having a good time, uh, I got a I got a call saying, “Hey, can you go see if you can break into XYZ’s house?” I said, “I mean, I can try. It’s been a while since I used that skill.” What do you mean? Um, there was a time where I had a friend who lived in an apartment building that we would that would uh the front door you had to get buzzed into, but didn’t always work. So, you would just be able to let yourself in and then go to their apartment. So, uh I haven’t done that in a while and probably a time or two here and there where a similar situation. You’re locked out and it’s well give it the old credit card trick. Walked up to her house. The dog was standing on the other side of the door waging his tail looking at me. Credit card right in the slot there. Pop in. No big deal. Saved the day. Saved the locksmith having to come out to town. Ah, they were grateful, I assume. Uh, to tears, which there’s alcohol involved, but Oh, sure. Yeah. Yeah. It was luckily I wasn’t party to the tears cuz they were still out having fun when I got sent to do the unlocking cuz I was not with them. Well, how’d you know they cried that you got in? It was reported back by Mussolini that um there was they were so grateful there was tears. Yes. Now, mind you, I got very lucky. Like the way the door is, it’s a it’s a well secured door and it the card I had had to take multiple turns and for whatever reason I hit the perfect spot to get it through cuz when I looked at it Who are you? Who are you? I’m I I just want to recap. We are uh we are not quite to a year of you joining the show. We’re approaching around a year of at least your your intermediate appearances. Yeah. Yep. in the last year that you’ve joined this show. I want to re I just want to I just want to reflect a little bit on on the era that we are in of Josh Deaggio. So he referenced Mussolina. You’ve moved in with Mussolini. Live in a house together. Yes. You have a dog. You got a dog. How old’s the dog? He’s um two one and a half approaching two. Okay. Um how long have you had him since he was a baby? Had him since you can like responsibly take one around 8 to 10 weeks I believe. Okay. So, you’ve had a dog for a while, I guess. In the last year, you stopped the Porsche from being on fire. Yeah, you sure did. People forget that. People do forget that. Still looking for my key to the city, Cavalier Johnson. You’re insufferable. Then the last two weeks have just been a total whirlwind. Yeah. You got thrown into action at the NFL draft. You had a headset on. You were like an executive producer of three different things going on. You’re not an executive producer. Not you. I think I I think I have the ability to be one. I just don’t have the title. You know, that type of thing. Then last week, you win a quote unquote random drawing for the company. Yeah. You win a gr you a grand $1,000 in your bank account. You got it. Which, by the way, you have received now I’ve learned. Yep. Cash money. Cash money. And then Saturday, we get a text from you that says, “Yeah, I just broke into a house.” Uh-huh. Yeah. I mean, who are you? Big- time players show up in big time moments. You just got to do what you got to do. There’s a man out there who’s been called to task. That’s often me. And I come through in the clutch. I’m not James Harden. I don’t score seven points. Wow. On eight shots. I, you know, people need action. I get things done. Not LeBron James in the fourth quarter. No, I I uh Now, none of these situations are planned for me. I never would have thought I would walk past a neighbor’s porch on fire. I just got put in a situation where I had to act. Same thing with Friday of the draft. I could have never foreseen the situation in which I was put in charge. What did I do? Crushed it. Got to do what you got to do. What did I do? I think you’re just jealous. I think that’s the You’d like to be hero more. No, believe me, Josh. I’d crumble in this situation. Well, see, and that’s why I’m grateful it’s me and not you because that person’s house would be in embers right now. They’d be thinking about trying to rebuild there and what what the homeowner is going to do. I saved it. They’re good. Yeah. You know, it just is what it is. You would have gotten sent to to open the lock. You probably break the door knob off. Yeah. Would have needed a locksmith one way or another. There’s probably a different way than they didn’t need one when you showed up. Yeah. I mean, it Hey, it is what it is. Some people are made for the bright lights, some aren’t. And you are allegedly made for the bright lights. I mean, it’d be hard to argue with the past calendar year I’ve put together here. Yeah, it’s it’s a historical run. I mean, it is it is truly improbable, though, because who who would have thought Josh Deaggio of all people getting thrown in to play Hero Ball multiple times in the last calendar year. And if you know anything about me, I do not particularly seek those of moments out. Well, I I I didn’t even bring up the fact you built a fence. I did recently. Same friend, by the way. Oh, it was. So, I got to admire my own work while I went to go pop the pop the door open. Yeah, same friend. Well, you start think. Yes, I did give it a little push to see how it was. I checked to see how the concrete settled. There was no like cracking or uh So, the last time you were at this house when you built the fence? Yes. I might have gone over there to walk just out of curiosity and and Look, I I I I probably shouldn’t I’m probably not the best person to ask this question, but I’m going to ask it nonetheless. What has this friend done for you? Um, not as much. Been a good friend. Um, got me into some cool places because of uh their status and got me some cool experiences. I’ll say that. But also, I’m more asking what have they done to thank you? Say thank you. Yeah. I mean, I’m not really. She bought me dinner after I’ve built the fence, which is okay. Heroes don’t look for rewards. They just do it because they’re heroes. That’s why you’re not a hero. Josh’s a humble guy. A a lot of things like lot of humility. Like I wouldn’t want my friend to like hand me cash, you know? Hey, you saved me $150 from the locksmith, so here’s 50 bucks. Buy me a couple briskies. I’ll be good. Ron and the key ESP Milwaukee on YouTube. Wait, Josh had another hero situation. Sure did. Now some like the Porsche thing is total happen stance. And by no means do I think I’m the only person who would have gone and got a hose. I don’t know, man. To get the hose to knock on the door is one thing. Yeah. To get the hose, you got to do what you got to do. Um, you could start pointing to it being maybe some of the people I surround myself putting them in positions where where they need a hero. Um, because this same person Oh, wait a minute. You’re Aaron Rogers. You’re the smartest guy in the room. It’s not Maybe it’s just most capable because I mean I don’t know that that’s a good thing either cuz I mean I don’t know like if if I told you to go pop a lock, would you even know where to start? No. Yeah. So, like there’s some of that just like I think I just I rep I come off as somebody who knows a lot more. Like I didn’t know how to build a fence. Never have, never planned to, never thought. But when I was asked to help, I said, “Well, let’s figure it out. Let’s do what we need to do.” I I popping a lock thing is like back to I mean college days when it was just like here’s what you do. You I mean you understand the basics of how a doorork knob lock works and how a lock works. David chimes in which is something I was about to bring up. Joshy, I can feel your head getting bigger from Iowa. Yes. Um it’s been a good run. What can I say? I’m just a little I’m a little too I’m a little worried you’re going to get too big for your britches here the next couple of weeks. You’re going to think you’re above me. You’ve been walking in two minutes late to the show the last two shows. There’s nobody who humbles himself more than me. I that now that is not true. I’m I’m my biggest my own biggest critic. Well, let’s see what kind of show you got today. You ready? If the past is any indication, it’s going to be excellent. A+ Wisconsin broadcast winning level content right here. Yeah. How’d we do this weekend? I don’t think we submitted anything. Actually, I have a trophy. Oh, that’s right. Jen, Gabe, and Shuy won best morning show, didn’t they? Sure did. Oh, damn it. I forgot that detail. I insisted on getting a trophy. Two out of three. Put another put another check in the box for your boy. It I’ll just say this. It’s It’s good I finally started getting the recognition I deserved. Couldn’t even say it with a straight face. So, Yiannis watch continues. I can’t do this anymore. You’re insufferable. Now, here’s one thing, and I I’ve been self- admitted about this. If I ever win the lottery, I’m going to be the worst person on earth. You already are. Right now, amplify it to me having bleep you money. What does your girlfriend think about all this? um doesn’t love it much the same as you do. Am I less this way around her? Yes, of course. Um but not much. No, not much. And if the situation arises and it gets brought up, yes, I will shower myself in comments. Yes, I will do that. Unbelievable. All right, Josh Deaggio, the absolute best. Alex drove Hunter Fun with you. It’s Mr. that episode 249. Let’s get into the real stuff now as Giannis watch continues. The Bucks season about a week into the books now or been done for about a week and the speculation just continues and I I think Giannis pulled a move this weekend just to throw a little gas on the fire, right? Have a little fun with it. We know Giannis, she’s got a good sense of humor. And I I think as Wisconsin sports fan, if you if you like me and Joshy or through and through Wisconsin sports fans, right? So Packers, Bucks, Brewers, Badgers, etc. Marquette, whatever you support, you’re used to the Aaron Rodgers version of this, at least recently, right? You’re looking at every tea leaf. you’re reading everything he posts or does or you know I I remember and I’ve told this story before. He did a and this was the season he was traded or the offseason he was traded to the Jets. He did a well I don’t even remember what it was like a it was with a I know them all off the top of my head. So which one? Punch a karma cleanse. No, no, no. It was it was a Zoom Darkness retreat. No, it was a Zoom session. Zodiac with Deborah. Deborah. Uh, Silverman. Yes, I still get emails from her despite unsubscribing 800 times. I very recently unsubscribed. It’s not working. I’ve done it a hundred times. I still get her emails. But I joined that that what’ you call it? Horoscope. Yeah, it was like a horoscope reading slash like conversation on it and it very very boring. Very boring. There was nothing football related talked about and I sat through that whole thing. Regardless, you read into everything you see with this generational superstar, first ballad Hall of Famer to know whether or not he will be back on your team or not. And this is the first off season for me, and I think others may be differently, but for me, being so close to it, being in Wisconsin, understanding Giannis as deeply as we do here, by following him as closely as we have, we understand what makes him tick and we understand the way he operates. So, while this is the first time for me, it’s felt like there is a realistic possibility Giannis could go elsewhere in 2526, I still don’t think that’s going to happen. But I think we have to keep a closer eye on what he says and what he does and some of what what the other 29 teams are doing over the course of the next couple weeks. The NBA draft lottery a week from today, the Houston Rockets, who are the two seed, good team, young pieces, lots of draft capital. They are bounced in the first round of the playoffs. Are they going to be interested in the services of Giannis? Can they put together a package the Bucks can’t refuse? Right. So, there are things like that. Giannis posts on Instagram over the weekend. It’s a p it’s a picture of him in a shirt that says win for Cream City with the emojis in the caption, the prayer emoji, and the salute emoji. So, prayer salute with a shirt that says win for Cream City. Hm. What does that mean? Could that mean it’s been a great ride? I salute you, Cream City. Could it mean I’ll be back? Salute me. Could it mean I’m praying for what’s next and I’m saluting for what’s already happened? There are so many different ways to read into this. when it comes to Giannis and vag emojis. And this is something we’ve discussed with Aaron Rogers. This is something we’ve discussed with all sorts of superstar talents that could be headed elsewhere at the end of the season. Prayer salute is what we get from the two-time MVP and NBA champion Alice Koopa on his Instagram over the weekend. A prayer and a salute. To me, this means nothing. I think this is just end of the season. This is the final post from this season. Joshy, what say you? Prayer salute. This game of interpreting Instagram posts, especially from professional athletes, is the best. It’s it’s it’s also the best, but a dead end road cuz these things could mean literally anything. Like we see people tweet about things and you’re like, “Wait, are they talking about their football team, their basketball team?” This doesn’t really happen in the MLB much. And it will often times be like, “No, actually they’re going through a hard time with their girlfriend or something.” Right. Right. This one I struggled to read into meaning anything either way. I think he was saluting the season and the year they had and the effort he put into trying to make the Milwaukee Bucks champions. I viewed it as like a recap like, hey, good run. We gave it our best. Things don’t always go our way. The shirt obviously win it for Cream City. My other takeaway was, unless I’m unaware, this seems to be Giannis’s first entrance into the cryptic social media posting game where every he he was there was a game seven this weekend. There was. And he was a bigger story than that game seven. That is correct. So he knows the attention is on him. He’s he’s not a dummy. Oh, without a doubt. Yeah. and he decided to throw his hat into the cryptic posting. Now, he could be doing the Devonte Adams, Aaron Rogers where they just like to bleep around and mess with people and think it’s kind of funny, which I would not put that past Giannis. He seems to be like light-hearted, fun type of everything we know about him is he likes a little joke. The other part of me though was like I don’t know if it is a joke and he’s kind of doing the cryptic stuff. I don’t know if it’s the right time. Playing with a lot of people’s hearts here. I didn’t love it. That’s the most I can say because it instilled more doubt in me, but it is what is it? The roar shack test. You’re going to see what you want to see. Mhm. Based on the way you probably already think about it. So, for example, fans of the 29 other teams, they view that as a goodbye to Milwaukee. Yes. Now, the fans of the Bucks, yes, they view that as just another day. Another day is coming back. That’s both Jen and Gabe on Jen Gabe and Chewy. Award-winning show, 7:00 to 9:00 a.m. on ESPN Milwaukee. Best large market morning radio show. No big deal. Uh, both both of them said it made me think he was closer to uh that meant he was coming back, which I didn’t see that. I see it. Yeah. win for the Cream City Salute. I have more doubt about Giannis’s future than I think all three of you. And that could be misplaced out because let’s be frank, we are all at this point guessing. We are. We’re trying to do our best deductive reasoning. Yeah. I I I mean, I think it goes back to a conversation we had last week and a conversation we’ll have for the next several weeks and and that is the fact of does it make sense for Giannis? Does it make sense for the Bucks to run this thing back in 2526? Because I think when you’re staring at it here on May 5th, it already prematurely looks like a loss season, right? Without the services of Damen Leard for at minimum the entirety of the regular season, if not into the postseason, at minimum, you’re probably not winning a championship. Right? Yiannis is good and he gives you a chance and he probably makes you a playoff team, right? But I think we would agree on that. If you just have Yiannis Noame, that makes you a playoff team. You’re good enough. Playin team, maybe maybe five seed. Now you view it, you go, “Oh boy, that’s a lost season.” And then you have to start wondering, okay, who’s on this team in two years? They don’t have draft capital, which naturally they haven’t done a ton with in in the last several years because they’ve had low picks in the first round, if they’ve had picks at all. But they they are at a point now where winning a championship is going to get very dicey, right? The East is only getting better, infinitely more difficult, right? And so of course when we discuss this, we are at a point where the Bucks would get a lot for Yiannis. A lot King’s ransom, some would say. Is that a Kings joke? No. Just a way to say it. King’s ransom. Got it. You got it, bud. Move along. Um, does I found the English translation of the song that was also posted with this um because I got deep into this then and some of the lyrics in it. I don’t know if this changes your guys’s thoughts on this, but in the song it says, “I’m selfish. It’s me or nobody. Sometimes I don’t consider how you’re going to feel. I pursue for the records. That’s how the sport wants me. I want a cup, a championship.” Yeah, that pushes me more towards I’m moving on. I’m That pushes me more to I’m running back. But he says, “I’m selfish and I want more championships,” right? Which he wants in Milwaukee. That seems like a leap. No, no, no, no, no. He doesn’t care how anybody else feels because everybody wants him to leave. Huh? Everybody wants him to leave. So, he’s going to say, “F your feelings. I’m back in Milwaukee, baby.” Right. But reverse it. I’m selfish. So, even though the city and organization has treated me great, I’m in it for me. And I’m looking for trophies. No. Yeah. Can’t be what that means. Can’t be. I think the song had nothing to do with the post. I No, I think the song points more towards the not coming back than the post did. Are we really going this deep with Yiannis? He posts a song in a language, by the way, which none of us speak. None of us speak the language. But there’s Google Translate, so we know what the song says. But but but how how spot on. So wait, if if Giannis said if Giannis said, “I’m leaving the Milwaukee Bucks, but in Greek,” you’d be like, “Well, it’s not the language we speak.” That doesn’t make any sense. No, I think we are jumping way too far to conclusions based off a song in which he didn’t reference in the post. He just added it because he probably likes the song. It just so happens to reference Being Selfish Championship. But but hold on. And it’s about someone who grew up in the streets and had a difficult life kind of like Giannis did too. But that’s the part that’s featured in the post. The part about being selfish and competing for championships is not the party featured in the post. You wanted Giannis to edit the portion of the song to more if he’s trying to scrub through a 4-minute song and find the exact moment when I’m sure he listens. I don’t even know how you do that. Don’t you just play what it offers you? It’s like, hey, this can move. It takes a little bit of time. You can move. Which section? It’s got big fingers. I think it’s hard to do. That’s what we’re talking. He was trying to send a subliminal message. His fingers were too too big. Yeah. David makes David makes a really good point. He says, “Stro, you think this is too deep in Yiannis watch? Just wait, brother. It’s only going to get worse. You, Gabe, specifically I’m worried about me and Gabe. You guys are very emotionally invested in it coming back and it’s going to take a finalized trade of Giannis for you guys to finally believe it’s going to happen. That’s correct. Yeah, you guys are you guys are pot committed to a return. Unless I hear from Giannis that he’s requesting a trade or I think even if he says I requested a trade, you’d be like, well, maybe they don’t do it. I wouldn’t do it. What team can offer you enough for him? He’s 30 years old. He’s playing the best basketball of his life. No team can be like, “Hey, give me the second best player in the world. Here’s here’s a crappy trade offer.” You’re making good points, but also furthering my belief into what I said originally that caused that little hissy fit there from you. Oo, hissy fit. Now you’re getting a little personal. I mean, both you and Gabe have gotten on your bully pulpits and raised your voices about something we don’t The Bucks have nothing to offer, Giannis, other than you’ve played here. And he’s under contract. Is there is there a profession where your contract means less than the National Basketball Association? I will give you that. That that part is true. Major League Baseball, but Yiannis made a commitment. He’s a man of his word. I think you have an issue, and so do many, many, many, many, many fans of a um a parasocial relationship with somebody who you may have met Giannis, but you don’t really have like real interactions with him. You don’t know him on a personal level. No. So, to even say I’ve met him is a stretch, right? I’ve been in the same room in his He held a microphone in front of him probably. Yeah. Yeah. Um I did that once too. He he he walked past me atalysis. Um and he walked past me here when he recorded salute. Uh I prayed and then saluted actually. I went be honest. Good to see you. Yeah. Um so maybe he’s referencing me. I doubt it. No, I wouldn’t. As deep as we’re going here, anything is possible. I mean, we are scratching the surface as David tried to let us in. This is Yep. Uh, well, so you mentioned something there about Stro getting attached to Giannis. Uh, do you think Stro is more attached to Giannis than he was to Aaron Rodgers, like emotionally? Yeah. I I think I think because in terms of comparing the sagas of Aaron Rogers and the potential of like the writing was on the wall with Aaron Rogers for the greater part of three seasons. They drafted his replacement. He was clearly unhappy. The locker room was in shambles. Yeah. Um so yeah, I think there was there was more writing on the wall there. He directly said, “I might not be here for three consecutive postseasons.” Right. Yeah. And I think going into the off season of of what that would have been 23 or the offseason after 22 into the 23 season, I was ready to move on, right? I was ready to see what Jordan Love had. I understood it could be a really bad season, but it would give us answers. And he was obviously pretty awesome that year. The problem is, and the problem I can justify your emotional investment more is the future future ain’t as bright in a post. Tiana, you can give me six first round picks. They’re not drafting another Yiannis. I mean, either way, I think it’s going to be uh mostly downcast. Uh it’s going to be mostly cloudy for the Bucks for at least the immediate future, but uh at least you could tell yourself a story about the Packers back then, right? The story you’re telling yourself about Giannis and coming out of trading Giannis ahead of schedule is like somehow you managed to get Cooper Flag and Young Talent back. Bingo. I was going to say the best Cooper flag. It’s the best case scenario. The best case scenario is you’re the Oklahoma City Thunder. Yes. Right. Is you make a couple deals, you acquire a bunch of picks and you turn that into a young team that’s really really good. Mhm. Right. And that is so unheard of. And the Thunder rebuild took several years, right? They went from the Durant and Westbrook and Harden to the Paul George and Chris Paul version of the Thunder. I mean, there was a time where Shay Gilis Alexander was the only person on that team that really was worth a damn. That’s correct. That like anybody even ever heard of. And then you obviously had this great evolution over the past especially two years for Oklahoma City. and they still have a bunch of picks. So, they are actually a team that could be in the the Jana sweep stakes if they wanted to be. They have the assets. Um, now they need to offload Chad Homegrren or somebody that’s that’s a young upandcomer that’s not SGA because obviously you don’t want to pair Giannis with SGA. But, you know, as you can continue to look at this, there’s only few teams that make any sense. Houston’s one of them, and that’s the one that scares me to be real honest with you. Um, because obviously they were a really good team. They’re well coached. They had a really really good year despite losing in the first round in seven games last night to to Golden State. Can we just talk a little ball here quick before we talk a little? Yeah. Is there a better but bigger choker in all of sports than James Harden? Um, yes. No. Yes. Yes. Craig Council as a manager. Good shot. That was worth that was worth our time. I hear you, but the extent of poor performances in game sixes or sevens from James Harden is insane. I think it might be worse for Harden than it is council. Yeah. Um I mean he he just like stopped playing basketball. Here’s the name I’d hate to bring up. Uh oh. The head coach of the Milwaukee Bucks, Doc Rivers. Prolific Joker. And he obviously crossed over with Harden a little bit in uh in Philly. They did it together. Yes, they did. Yes, they did. Um, that’s the only other name I can think of. Yeah, it’s just been when I clicked on that game and I looked at the box score, I said, “Excuse me, he has how many points?” So, 2021, game seven versus the Bucks, 22 points, 5 of 17, two of 12 from three. 2022, game six versus the Heat 11 points, four of nine, three of seven from three. 2023 game seven vers Boston nine points three of 11 field goal one of five from three. 2024 game six vers Dallas 16 points five of 16 06 from three and then most recently game seven vers Denver seven points two of eight one of four from three. Yikes. That’s that’s going to be a guy who’s going to be in the top 10 alltime scoring. Oh yeah. And he’s going to be known as Yeah. prolific choker. Yeah. That that’s one of those guys who’s never going to win a title. Yeah. I mean, it’s over now, but just doesn’t have it. Now, in his defense here, as I was thinking about chokers, good luck. Well, no, I’m just another person that this could be comparable to in a different sport. They talked about John Elway this way as well because he went to multiple Super Bowls, couldn’t win, couldn’t do it until he finally got those two at the very end of his career. So, I’m just saying that like this has happened with other people before. He still has time. I’m just I I don’t want to see him go out as like the biggest choker. Like I wouldn’t want that for anybody unless it’s Craig Council cuz he’s a traitor and I hate him. But I don’t want it to happen to James Harden. So I’m trying to find somebody that he could, you know, try and Here’s the thing, right? Like I I I don’t It’s It’s a different sport, right? Like Denver had good pieces around him behind him, right? That changes it is um Elway was always going to get credit for any success that a team has. If James Harden goes somewhere and is the third option or fourth option as he ages into what 36, 37 years old, he’s not going to get the credit that a quarterback would get because obviously we know what the quarterback does on a field. Like his best bet is to try and Vince Carter the end of his career and just glom on to places that need veterans. But I don’t know if he’s that guy. I don’t think so. Maybe he will be. Right. We’ve seen Well, he turned into a great facilitator this weekend. Sure did. Decided, I’m not feeling it. I’m not shooting today. A lot of passing. He Yeah, that was a brutal game seven. Yeah, it got really ugly. Uhhuh. What was it? 35 in the fourth quarter. Yeah. I mean, and Denver’s good and Denver’s fun and it sets up and we’ll get to this a little bit later, but it sets up a pretty fun series between them and Oklahoma City. Um I mean, the the semi-finals in each conference are fun. Um, one, two, one, two, three, four, six, seven, I believe, are the seeds left. Um, one, two, three, four. Two, six, seven in the West. Yeah, I’m I’m telling you what it is. Well, don’t ask us. But you said it expert on the NBA. Yeah, you did. You did upspeak at the end. 1 1212 3467. Say it with your cornness. 1 22 3467. Hi, Captain. There we go. Salute prayer. Salute and prayer. Just like Yiannis. All right, let’s talk about Mark Murphy. Joshy, I don’t know if you watched the Packers released about an 8 minutee long documentary about the draft. Did you watch this? I have not watched it in full. I have seen the clips. I have seen the moments that were most noteworthy. All right. This one I did not see until I watched the full documentary. I don’t know if this one’s getting the recognition it deserves. This is a clip of Mark Murphy receiving the draft card he ultimately read from and it is just the most Mark Murphy epitomized moment. The epitome of what Mark Murphy has been as the president of the Packers in 10 seconds in the Packers mini dock uh released from draft weekend o over the course of this past weekend. Take a look at at the interaction between I would assume this is an NFL employee handing the card to Mark Murphy. I believe in this video. I don’t know if you got the full thing. Our guy we interviewed. Oh, he might be in it. I didn’t notice. I didn’t notice that. Let me look. Jeff Miller referring to executive vice president of the NFL. That would make sense. Um, but a woman approaches Murphy with the draft card and then he cracks a joke to Roger Goodell. Take a look. The Green Bay Packers are on the clock. Matthew Golden. He’s here on Oh, okay. Yeah. I’m just glad someone a name I can I’m just glad it’s a name I can You had a Have you ever seen the video where there’s like a people you’re watching action happen but like literally into the middle of a circle a gorilla comes and jumps around? That’s what you had happen there by not noticing our guy who we interviewed sat next to. I mean he’s in center frame. He is right in the middle of the video. Yeah, that’s Jeff Miller. If you missed any of that, go back to Mr. Relevant podcast feed last Tuesday. It’s the first interview in last Tuesday’s episode. Good interview. Yeah, he was great. We talked about cheese curds for like six minutes, but then we talked about a ton tough questions. He answered. He did. He did. He was great. Um Nicolay High School alum from the Milwaukee area. So anyway, Jeff Miller is the executive vice president of the NFL communications player health and safety. But back to Mark Murphy. Back to Mark Murphy. Amazing joke. um just having the time of like he goes oh actually play it one more time because I want to hear the reaction number one when he hears Matthew Golden’s name and then number two when he cracks the joke one more time Mark Murphy to Roger Goodell and this woman who hands him the card. The Green Bay Packers are on the clock. Matthew Golden. He’s here on Oh, okay. Yeah. I’m just glad a name I can just glad it sounds like a name. Couldn’t even spit out the full joke. No, he couldn’t get there. He was so giddy, so excited for his moment to go on stage and give his saliloquy to the city of Green Bay and everything going on there. And look, we talk about generational runs. Mark Murphy in his retirement tour is on a generational run. So, you have that moment, then you have right after that, his soliloquy at the draft, and then this weekend you have Murphy’s Take Five. Uh, which is either this is either the pen ultimate or third to last version because I’m just impressed you do pen ultimate. July 1st is his retirement day, right? I think so. So, the first weekend of June, we’ll get a Murphy’s take five. And then I don’t know if we’ll get one the first weekend of July or not. Or will we get policy takes five? I have a feeling we’re not going to have policy takes five moving into the future. Oh, come on. Uh, so it would come out July. No other owner answers questions from But they’re not owners. And by the way, Jerry Jones literally does an hourong radio show on the fan in Dallas. Well, and then he also does midweek and then he also does postgame and Stephen Jones also does his own separate show. He he he he does love listening. Um you’re listening to himself. Remember he landed on the field and did an interview off a helicopter. Oh, that’s right. It was incredible. Cowboys Twitter was going off. One of the best days of my life. So here’s what Murphy wrote. This was my favorite part of Murphy’s Take Five this week, which I habitually read every month. Um, now I just recently started doing this and I’m I’m really mad I didn’t think about this idea month years ago where I tweet the takeaways I have, but this was my biggest takeaway. It’s an ultimate answer. It’s about travel and Green Bay. So, here’s what Mark Murphy wrote and you can read the full thing over on Packers.com. So Herbert from Illinois writes in Herby Herby from Illinois writes in about you know getting to Green Bay traveling from far away to Green Bay yada yada and um Mark Murphy starts complaining about how the flights in Austin Strable and Appleton just like aren’t that great because it’s not that big of a destination in comparison to some of the other NFL markets. So he writes in here, it also hurts us that there is no train service to Green Bay and then in parenthesis but we do have the National Railroad Museum here. question mark. Then he writes, “We would be much better off with one airport between Green Bay and Apple rather than having those airports compete to each other.” He goes on to tell an example he recently had where he had league meetings in Atlanta, Georgia. Um, so the the direct flight from to Atlanta was at 5:15 a.m. from Green Bay. That would require me getting up at 3:45 a.m. and arriving very early in Atlanta. So, I checked Appleton’s flights to Atlanta. The only morning flight was 5 minutes later at 5:20 a.m. He just wanted to complain about an issue he had flying. Now, he’s a multi-millionaire. So, so yes, this does seem like a petty argument, but as we know, and um I don’t want to be using this term, but I’m going to have to to get my point across. Um he’s been known as a useful idiot for the NFL. uh things that Roger Goodell and the big wigs want done there get floated by Mark Murphy most often. That’s why the tush push ban was a thing that Mark Murphy pushed for. Um and if you notice, it seems like everyone at the NFL agrees with his point. Um, if I were to guess, this is literally like some political back channels that they’re discussing and some project he’s trying to get done of a centralized airport between those two that would expand it and make travel easier because, as you know, he’s all about expanding Green Bay, turning into destination, turning it into more than just Lambo Field, Title Town, a whole thing you come and do. So, he’s thinking and probably has had talks with people high up. First of all, the pop about the railroad that’s if you know anything about Wisconsin politics, the lack of railroads here is a extremely loaded political issue. Hot button issue, baby. Extremely loaded. And that is one thing that’s been going on since I’ve been politically aware as somebody uh in Wisconsin. The railroads have been that. So, he gets that pop in there and then what I think he’s literally angling and there’s like talks of this happening and he’s saying, “Well, where else am I going to have somewhere else to talk about airports than my own column, right? Nobody can tell me what to say here.” It’s so good, man. He’s going out now giving a given an F. No. And do you think he just pulled off the biggest event debatably in state history? Mark Murphy Memorial. Well, not Memorial. He’ll be still alive. He’s either at this proposed airport going to have a wing named after him or the whole thing is like Austin Strable Mark Murphy international airport. International Yeah. Okay. Hang on. He’s not getting an international airport. That’s his trouble in Green Bay. Who Who has built up that city more than Mark Murphy? Okay, that’s great. I’m saying from an airport like if Madison is in an international airport, it’ll be a regional airport. Like let’s slow down with international. Mark Murphy’s career career is going to be after he gives up. He says, “Well, you know, I got the they own the golf course now.” He’s going to be the one leading the charge on getting the centralized airport. There it is. Great. A regional airport. Yeah. named after Mark Murphy. There’s many regional airports named after people. Yes, I know. I I have zero issue with him getting an airport. I have uh I have no issue with the airport. I have issue with trying to say that it’ll be an international airport. That that’s my only issue. Okay. I have misunderstood you that. Austin Strable was a major in the United States Army Air Forces. Thank you for your service, Austin. located in Green Bay. He was the first uh Brown County’s first aviation loss in World War II. Died at the age of 37 uh near Indonesia. Um maybe Mark Murphy doesn’t want to be the reason that place closes. Just might be a be a good call. Uh when did they rename the airport? There was an Austin Stravel field at one point. Do you think it was built in his like how is that airport really date back to World War II? I find that hard to believe. It opened in 1948. So, and he died in 1942. Yeah. 6 years later. Probably opened with his name. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Huh. All right. Well, there you go. Um cuz I Oh, did you know Green Bay Austin Stravel is an international airport? Well, yeah, cuz they fly to Canada. Oh, that’s why you need to be called international, I believe. So, you should have to leave the continent. No, you just got to leave the country. International will just be outside of the country. So that’s the most asterisk international airport in the world. Yeah, you see some of those where they sneak international, you’re going, “Where the hell are you guys going?” But a little hop, skip, and a jump. You’re in Canada before you know it. Mark Murphy, Northeast Wisconsin International Airport. That’s a mouthful. MNEW. The MNEW. That might have been the worst named thing of all time. The M2 NEW International. Okay, we’ll work on it. We’ll work on it. Where’s it going to be? Rightstown. He says 15 minutes. The thing is Austin Travel can’t close because the Packers aren’t going to travel to town, right? Like they’re they can bust the rights down, right? They they are going to nice, quick, and easy for them to get. What else would be over there? Like a maybe. You don’t want stinky. Oh, you don’t. That’s trouble. Yeah, that’s a tough way. Imagine Imagine stuck on the tarmac in Kakana. All you all you smell is the paper. It’s tough. Shout out to all our loyal Kakana listeners. Do you know my dad lived in Kakana for 3 years? I would have never known that in the ever. You could put it on like the southsideed to pier maybe cuz then that’s still closer like you’re not having to go all the way up into Green Bay if you’re flying coming from Apple and then That’s true. It’s true. We might be on to something here. Again, this show, we solve the world’s problems. I guarantee you the only show that will talk about an airport on ESPN Wisconsin the entire month. I look, I am fascinated by him complaining. I I do think I am right though on this is more his entire gripe is the fact that he couldn’t get a flight through at past 5:00 a.m. Well, no. If you read closely with fine tooth comb, it’s why would you have two flights going to the same place within 5 minutes of each other that are located so closely, right? So we if a centralized option we would had more flights, but yeah, Mark Murphy, I’m sorry you get to go spend your time at a resort for the owner’s meeting while collecting millions. Way to wake up at 3:45. Oh, poor guy. I I wake up at 3:45 to travel all the time. Eric and Green Bay on the text line. 8009903776. Carbals talking text line. Listes more with Carbles. Eric and Green Bay says, “For what it’s worth, Appleton also an international airport.” Yeah. See, again, just because they’re close to Canada, I don’t think it actually counts. They fly anywhere else other than Canada. Fine. But other than that, you have to you should to be co called international, you should have to go to two international countries. You should have to go to Canada and Mexico or Canada and Greenland. Greenland. Yeah, you could hit like Jamaica maybe from Green Bay. So, there’s a few options. Maybe. That’s a strong maybe. I know. I’m just saying there might be a plane that can fly out of there that’s big enough, dude. Get a plane big enough with enough fuel to get to get to Jamaica. I don’t think that’s happening. You got to go Chicago for that. Yeah. Okay. So, our our options are literally Canada and Mexico. Yes, that is correct. Yes. Uh, latest power rankings out, ESPN.com, rated by ESPN’s NFL nation. Josh, have you had the chance to look at these yet? Uh, last ones I saw were postdraft. Uh, these came out today. So, last I saw which teams improved most in the draft is the topic today. I saw the Packers at 10th last time ESPN did one of these. Okay. They’re up a little bit. Wow. They got better. Uh, they got better in terms of the So, this one is about which position was the most improved. As you can guess, it’s wide receiver. Wide receiver. Um, yep. Talking about Matthew Golden, Savon Williams, and Christian Watson likely out until November with an ACL tear is what Rob Demowski talks about. So, the Packers rank eighth, which is good. Top eight. You’ll take that. I I’ve got something that I’ve got nowhere else to talk about this with, but did you know Matthew Golden and his 429 time is disputed by many people in the like uh draft Twitter and draft world because Matthew Golden only ran 140 time the first one. He got a 429 and then did not run the second as we know you typically run two of them and try and improve your time. The indication is that because of that that something was mistimed and he’s closer to a 44 runner than he is a 429 and got a good score and then just said we’re leaving it cuz he then didn’t run at his proday or anywhere else. There’s a working theory that Matthew Golden is not actually as fast as he is. Lauren something crazy I learned this weekend. What’s that about Matthew Golden 40 time? Yeah. Remember Packers wide receiver and W lacrosse alum Billy Shrainer. 429 guy. Four to six. He’s faster than Matthew Golden. This be lightning. Isn’t that crazy? It’s 25 years ago he last played for the Packers. Was that hand timed though? I don’t know. It must have been. It had to have been. But 426 ain’t bad. I mean, that’s moving. So, hold on. So, back to these power rankings. Eighth on the surface seems good, right? You’ll take the eighth. Eighth spot. Yes. That puts you in conversation for Super Bowl. The thing that makes me a little bit uncomfortable about it though, it means you’re in the top 25% of the league. They’re fifth in the NFC. Eagles are number two. Lions are number four. Commanders are six. Rams are seven. Packers are eight. So, there was a team represented from every division other than the NFC South. I’m skeptical of the Rams. And the Vikings are ninth. Yeah, the the Vikings. JJ McCarthy is going to determine what that team actually I’m also skeptical on the Rams, but Matthew Stafford’s going to miss time. I will. He does every year at this point. Yes. But the the Devonte Adams Devonte Adams Puk and Aua duo super intriguing. He is um for for the Rams. I think they could certainly win that division. Yeah, I I would pick the NerS. I’m confused on the NerS. The whole Brock party thing’s dragging out. Uh they ranked 15th in this week’s power rankings. Yeah, I just think they have more top end talent than honestly anyone not named the Eagles. what timing that is. By the way, Ian Rapaort just tweeting as we’re discussing Matthew Stafer that they have just finalized this new deal. I thought that was already finalized. I think they had a handshake deal because he was always coming back, but um I think they just finalized it. Yeah, I mean they’re in a weird spot. Um I mean it is what it is. I think the Packers the only teams you really see ranked ahead of the Packers that you’re truly scared of and would be worried about a matchup is Lions. Lions and Eagles. Eagles. All those other teams you think that’s a those are kind of any given Sunday matchups. I definitely feel that way with the Rams. They’re all in sort of a big grouping. I can I just can I just toss something out there? Let me guess. Commanders. Are we too high on the Commanders? I think we are. Yeah. I think we saw what was uh a fun run. Yes. and a once in a-lifetime performance for a rookie quarterback in a situation I mean that team they’ve still got a long ways to go. Uh obviously Jaden Daniels covers up for a lot especially when he was playing as well. I don’t think anybody’s disputing whether or not he’s a good quarterback. Yes, I I think he’s very good. Uh I also think the NFL is going to come back and bite him in the ass and there’s going to be a little returning to reality. uh because some of the stuff he was doing towards the end of the year into the playoffs was like, well, I mean, what just happened there? You’re right. I think people will catch on to that, but I I would just point out it seems like they did make a few impressive improvements this offseason, right? You got you add a guy to a decent wide receiver, Roman Debo Samuel, who I know deals with some injuries, is a little I don’t want to say he’s a little bit restricted in some of his impact impactfulness, but he’s a smaller receiver, right? you can utilize him in creative ways, but it’s a good ad nonetheless. You add a good left tackle in Laram Tonsil this off season and you add a few pieces to your defense. So, all in all, I think the Commanders on paper are solid, right? I think they’re a good team. I think they’re playoff team. I just do not expect them to return to the form they were at at the end of last year where they’re winning on the road in the playoffs and they’re going on this miraculous run with a rookie quarterback. I I would not anticipate that’s a team who’s back in the NFC Championship game in 2526. But give them their flowers. It’s the off seasonason. They’re coming off an NFC Championship run. I get it. They’re a team that doesn’t scare me. The Eagles do. The Lions do, frankly. They’re good teams. And the Lions are going to be healthier. I’m I mean, obviously, they’re losing both of their coordinators. They didn’t impact their defensive line, I think, in the draft as many anticipated. So, all in all, me, I think they’re a good team. Didn’t they draft Tyreek? Uh they may have drafted Tai Leak. Yeah. Which people kind of all thought was a But he’s a tackle, right? DT. Yes. Yeah. I was thinking I I guess I was referencing more on the outside. You get Hutchinson back obviously, but um who will probably come back player of the year if I had to put money on it right now just off the top of my head. I mean, I literally saw on Twitter some video of Hutchinson working out and it the conversation is that he looks like he’s behind schedule. So, I I know it’s early, but I know I’m just I I’m trying to help you out as a Packer fan and say like, “Hey, maybe he’s slowing down. I’m sorry. I won’t do that again.” Geez. Uh Hudson Hutchinson is the favorite for comeback player of the year. Christian McCaffrey, Dak Prescott right there after him. Uh then Trevor Lawrence, JJ McCarthy, and Rashi Rice. Was Trevor Lawrence coming back from sucking ass? Did I miss something? All right, couple minutes left. PTI style. Let’s do this. Which revenge series in the NBA second round are you most looking forward to? Is it Jimmy Butler at the Timberwolves or is it W Russell Westbrook at the Thunder? It’s a real question you’re asking me and those are my two options. Those are your two options. Uh I’ll be watching hockey. Oh wow. Puck. I watched some puck this weekend, man. It’s so good. Did you see the three goals in the third period game? Sure did. Fun. Yeah. Super. Winnipeg Jets. That was cool. Did you see the Winnipeg Jets reaction of their like little downtown there that’s deer district like? Yeah. Fun. Pretty awesome. Yeah, pretty awesome. Wish we could have that. I was just about to say the same exact thing. Yeah, I’m with you. I assume you’re taking Jimmy at Minnesota. I do not like Jimmy Butler. Don’t like watching him play. So, you’re taking Westbrook at at He gave me He gave me two bad options. Pick one. I Both those players you named are two of my least favorite athletes in all the sports. No. Yes. Are you aware who my favorite NBA player of all time is? Probably Russell West Russell Wester. That’s exactly. Let me guess. You had a OKC West jersey as a kid. Uh not as a kid, but as a teenager. As an adult. Not as an adult. Somewhere in between there. As a grown ass man just buying a Russell West Thunder jersey. I had the 20 I had the 2017 Christmas jersey which was freaking sweet. I I Yeah. Not remember the commercial where they were all shooting at buckets with bells on them and they sang and they played jingle bells. It was that Christmas edition’s jersey. You bought the Christmas edition Thunder Russell Westbrook jersey. Yes, I have it somewhere still. I mean that is that is poor purchasing on your part. Oh, I got it off eBay. The Christmas version of a jersey. It’s my favorite jersey the Thunder have ever worn. Unbelievable. Let me see if I can find a picture of that. Who are you? Who are you most? I’m I’m more I’m more intrigued by Butler at Minnesota because you remember how that all ended, right? Like Butler was super unhappy. But Cat’s not there. How much of that team is even the team he It’s not. But I think just the idea of him going back to Minnesota where obviously it ended really ugly. I would much rather I’m more interested. I’m going to if I watch at all, it’s Anthony Edwards. Yeah. How does he cement himself as I mean we all think he’s a superstar at this point but is he going to be able because where did they finish last year? Who in the Wolves? Yeah. Second round. Yeah. And everyone was like I mean he was the story last year. Um Anthony Edwards was like did they lose in the Western Conference Finals to the Mavs? They might have. I think they made it to the Western Conference. You’re Mr. NBA guy. You tell us. This See this is the trouble we get into. Do I rely on you to be Mr. NBA? And then I’m getting It was Wolves Mavs, I’m pretty sure. Yeah. So, I’m much more interested in Anthony Edwards. That’s the guy I I like I like his attitude. I like his style of play. I thought it was a little bizarre. He was walking around LA saying he owned the city after the game. It’s a little strange. Found that odd. I think he thought that was going to come off better than it did. Not that it came off too poorly. It was just kind of like, okay, what are you doing there? Just circling the arena. All right, have fun. Have a good walkabout. That’s fair. Enjoy yourself. Uh, it was Mavs Wolves 41 in the Western Conference Finals. Um, I was just remembering that epic series they had with Denver and then they got smoked. Are you, as the sports watcher, if my team’s not directly involved, I want the young guys to elevate to superstardom versus watching the old washed up guys. I see. I like I’m not you’ll never find me rooting for Junior. No, I agree. I’m definitely rooting for the Wolves in that series. I I just think it’s it’s fun because to your point, it is the young upandcomer could be face of the league at some point, Anthony Edwards, taking on I I hate to I don’t hate to say this because I think it sounds like I’m demeaning LeBron, which I’m not doing, but I think the most impactful player of the 21st century and Steph Curry um in terms of his his impact on the game overall. And then obviously you have playoff Jimmy who everything ended ugly in Minnesota. I just think that series gives you some cinema right where you have this great sevengame back and forth with Golden State and Houston which ended up being a really good series. Some blowouts but some some really good games in that series and some great entertainment value. I I just think this series the six and seven seed the West was so competitive this year. This proves it even further. The Warriors who were a playin team are now alive in the second round. seem like they’re getting a little bit of their groove in. I don’t know. It’s just a fun series. What happens more? Oh boy. Jimmy Butler has 25point games or Draymond Green reserves gets a flagrant or technical foul. What What occurs more times? I’m on Draymond’s side. Yeah, since you’re throwing in flagrance in there, I think that’s the way you have to go. You notice he’s kind of found a little hack there. He goes, “Maybe I’ll just get a flagger on this instead of a technical.” That’s his new bit. I like it. Like, how do you play by him? How do you play by him? Um, yeah, it’s probably Draymond. But is it? Cuz if if if Jimmy, if this series goes six or seven, which I’m anticipating it will, he’s going to have at least two 25 point games. Yes. I think two’s fair. Draymond, he might have he might have four in a seven game series. He’s over under three and a half. He might have four. It’s a good question. I like that. All right. You learned something new every day. We learned something new today. It’s time now for what we learned. 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Andrew Filipony of 937, the fan in Pittsburgh, reports today that on September 28th in Dublin, Ireland, the Pittsburgh Steelers will host the Minnesota Vikings, not the Packers. Quote, contrary to popular belief. End quote. We remember a few months ago, Ben Brust of Kyle Brust and Nortman from weekdays 2 to 5 on ESPN Wisconsin tweeted this. I am hearing from sources the Green Bay Packers will play the Steelers on September 28th in Dublin, Ireland. So, Philip Aoney has gone out and completely blasted Ben Brust indirectly by saying contrary to popular belief. And what we learned is it’s sounding like Ben Bruss was wrong. Didn’t Mark Murphy say that they weren’t playing or gave some indication towards it was unlikely? Yes. But then Aman Green at the same exact moment said, “And by the way, I’m taking a trip with some former players to Dublin that weekend. If you want to come with us, you can find information on my Instagram. That’s right. It was double. It It was It was one guy saying one thing, one guy saying the other. It could just be league speak for Mark Murphy. But now it is sounding as we get closer and closer to Green going to get cancelled. I guess it depends on how many people have booked. I mean, they’re not going to go for a Viking Steel. You might I mean, you can still go. Here’s Aman Green for the Viking Steelers amongst other Packers alumni. Yeah. Yeah. That’s that that’s an interesting line. They might just need to pivot that trip a little bit. Maybe invite like Jared Allen. Do you think there’s a potential the Packers are playing internationally? No, because Pittsburgh wouldn’t go twice. Now, it sounds like Minnesota could be going twice though, back-to-back weeks in Europe. They could play the uh in Dublin against the Steelers, then in London against the Browns. I would be peed off. Yeah. Well, hopefully that leads into your by week. Yeah. But still, like I don’t want to watch my team at 9:00 a.m. two weekends in a row. No, I wouldn’t either. I don’t know. Those 9:00 a.m. games are kind of great. Like that is that’s like a college football Saturday. Like Yeah, they do hit a little bit differently actually if it’s a good batch, right? Because remember a couple years ago, I think it was was it Ravens Chiefs overseas one morning? Yeah, it does. Maybe Bill’s Chiefs with the West Coast gets their games start at 10:00 a.m. Yeah. And by the time Sunday night football’s done, you still have time to do stuff after that. If your team plays at noon, that’s all you care about or 10:00 a.m. 9:00 a.m. Dful. Let’s do whatever you want. What do you think Benny’s going to say? He’s He needs to pivot hard. I mean, see what his pivot actually ends up being. It’s Ben Bruss. He’s going to double down. That would not be a wise decision. I’ I I’ve told him the whole time I hope he’s wrong just because it’d be really funny. Have you so you haven’t spoke? Had has he seen the report? I sent it to him but he did not respond. He did not respond. He was working the phones as as he was and he he was busy this morning. So I did not say a word to him. Was he busy or was busy? Um he actually looked busy. Not Ben Bruss busy. He looked busy. Um cuz I handed him a sheet of paper at one point and all I got was a quick thanks and that’s the only back and forth we’ve had today. I’m going to go check in with him right as we wrap up the show. Um, but what we learned is I think Ben Bruss is wrong. Color me stunned. I was going to say this. That’s great. But at the same time, I’m like, “Yep, yeah, that it’s Ben Brush. Of course he was.” Yeah. It’s I mean, it’s on us for letting ourselves believe it. I never thought I believed it. You believed it. I believed it. Yeah. Uh-huh. You You were rooting for it to be wrong, but you believed it. Correct. Yeah. I think you read that, right? Yeah. So, anyway, all right. Hang on to your what we learned. We’ll get to it later in the week. Assuming maybe it’ll evolve. I don’t even know what it is. No, this this this story is sealed. Is it the poop lady again? No. Oh, man. You know, she she sells full content though. I did learn over the weekend. Who does the poop lady? Yeah. You don’t want the No. No. She did an interview with a newspaper after which, by the way, I’ve never seen somebody meet allegations of pooping on someone’s car or pooping in public more headon. just been like, “Hey, lost my cool. I was being harassed. I pooped on them.” Which, you know, maybe that’s the way to go with this stuff. People try to run from it. Just meet it head on. Just got to go right into the poop. Yeah. Okay. Shout out to the Delco Pooper. We’ll talk to you on Wednesday. Thanks to Josh, thanks to Hunter. I’m Alex Stro. Have a great couple of days. And we back with you beginning at 12:30 Central. ESPN Milwaukee, ESPN Madison, YouTube on Wednesday. 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Alex Strouf, Josh DiMaggio and Hunter Vaughn discuss the Giannis Antetokounmpo saga and what comes next for him and the Milwaukee Bucks after a vague Instagram. Strouf gives Green Bay Packers President/CEO Mark Murphy his flowers after one heck of a month. ESPN’s NFL Nation newest Power Rankings have the Packers at #8 with a note on their most improved position group. The NBA Playoffs have completely provided and we’ve got some premiere drama at that position! What We Learned presented by Door County Distillery.

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