Weight on Defense, Team Building Chemistry and Grading Offensive Workouts | Jaguars Happy Hour

Weight on Defense, Team Building Chemistry and Grading Offensive Workouts | Jaguars Happy Hour

It is Thursday, May 29th. This is Jaguars’s Happy Hour. Jaguars Happy Hour is brought to you by Dream Finders Homes. And now, performing his own stunts in the new blockbuster Mission Impossible 8, The Follical Reckoning, JP Shatrick. What a movie that’s going to be. Don’t miss that one. Welcome in. It is Jaguars happy hour. It is Thursday. It’s OTAA week number two. We’ve got a busy hour ahead recapping it all. Presented by Dreamfinders Homes, the official home builder of the Jacksonville Jaguars. OTAAS continue. We’ll figure out ways to grade the offseason work. Curious Jeff Logan’s grading system when he’s watching OTAAS. We’ll get to that here in a little bit. And then weighing air quotes options on defense. That was a conversation earlier in the week. Guys looking a little more trim than a season ago, especially on the defensive line. We’re on T10XLAM, Jaguars.com, Jaguars YouTube, JP Shadrick with Jeff Logaban. Good afternoon, Jeff. Good afternoon, JP. What’s up, man? All good, man. All good. Excited. Uh, exciting time of year. Mini camp just around the corner. Mhm. OTAA is in full swing. Two more weeks before we hit the the dead zone here coming up. The dead zone. Nothing wrong with the dead zone. Interesting thing that you bring up there about grading the off season. Yeah. Right. Because this is the time of year in which everybody’s getting A’s. Oh, everybody looks great in great shape. They’re having a the best off season they’ve ever had. Killing it in the chemistry. Yeah. Getting stronger, bigger, faster. Oh, yeah. The commitment. Grind mode never ends. You know, it’s uh you know, the old the old saying is is that uh sometimes you just got to wait and see until somebody gets hit in the mouth to really see what they are and what they’re going to be. That’s true. Right. It’s very true. So, um I’m excited for this football team. I’m excited with some of the changes that they’ve made, but I think there’s also a part of me that says I’m not giving a grade out. Oh. until this football team can give a grade itself, right? I mean, because the ultimate grade is what? Wins and losses. It’s pass fail in the NFL. It’s all it is. Well, I you could grade training camp if you make the team or not. Oh, absolutely. And I and I think that that also I’m really impressed with some of the things that they’re doing now and and and I don’t know if this is going to help them win football games or not. Okay. Okay. What do you got? But they’re having this contest and I don’t even know if I’m allowed to even talk about this. Well, here we go. But we’re going to talk about it. We’re about to find out. They’re having this kind of cool contest where they have teams on the team and they’re competing in different events. It’s kind of like a team building thing, right? And uh so is this like weight room stuff? What is this? Well, well, some of it’s weight room stuff, some of it is is different. uh they come up with different competitions to have. So in other words, you have like these teams that are made up of different players, you know, I think they had like a draft or were able to select players. So you have, you know, eight or nine or 10 man teams, whatever it is, and each team competes in these different events that they have kind of on a weekly basis. And when I saw it, I was like, that really reminds me of the team building exercise that Pete Carroll came up with way back in the day when I was with the Jets. And it was fun stuff and and the stuff that we did was in training camp, but because of OTAAS now become so prevalent now, it’s a great opportunity to do it throughout the OTAAS. And then at the end of the road, there’s going to be a prize. And I’m not going to say what the prize is going to be. I’ll let them talk about that at some point. But it’s cool watching these players pull together with their own team to have camaraderie with the competition and then to push each other kind of along the way because competition is the greatest motivator that there is in the off season. And you can tell that this team is uh creating a lot of bonds that wouldn’t normally be there if you didn’t have these kind of things. Today was a medball competition. Oh wow. Where they were doing like a relay race throwing the medball to to their teammates. I’m pretty good at that, by the way. Down and back. And then, you know, the winner obviously wins. And then there was a medball throwing contest over the the goalpost inside the Miller Electric Center. And of course, the big guys were doing pretty well with that. And then there was a kind of a medball throwing contest where you throw it and then once it stops rolling, you pick it up and throw it again. The first one down in back of the field wins. It’s just cool stuff. And I I’m I’m excited to see that they’re having these kind of things because it brings everybody closer and it breaks up the monotony of the offseason program. It’s not just meetings for a number of hours and then on the field for an hour and a half and go home. It’s like you need something to kind of keep keep motivated and they’re pro players. You should be motivated anyway. It’s a voluntary period. Let’s get some team chemistry going. Well, you spend a lot of time building chemistry within the rooms. Yeah. You know, defensive line, right? Okay. We’re all hanging out together, you know, and doing our thing and working out together, lifting together, practicing together, meeting together. But hey, look, I don’t spend a whole lot of time with a running back or a wide receiver. And these teams that they’re they have are diverse, you know, across the position groups. And uh and it’s a great opportunity to to I think create a bond with other guys on the team that maybe you wouldn’t or ordinarily have. And uh from what I understand, it was a an idea by the strength coach, the new strength coach that they have. And kudos to him because you can really tell that the players are embracing it. Got an opportunity to watch it uh today. Again, you know who has a step ahead in working with different position groups, Travis Hunter, wide receiver and defensive back. And Liam Cohen after practice earlier this week, uh explaining that yes, it’s going and it’s going pretty well. He’s still learning. and he’s been learning a ton defensively and offensively as we know. Um, you know, but that was more so fundamentals, techniques. It wasn’t uh a ton of 11 on 11, seven on. It was more fundamentals, techniques, communication. That was what that kind of last Wednesday was. And he’s been learning with those guys and meet with them extra as he’s needed to. That’s head coach Liam Cohen talking about the defensive work one day last week on the field, but he’s been in both meeting rooms throughout each day and uh getting a full dose of Jaguar football on both sides. Yeah. and and if um if I had to put like a percentage on what amount of work that he would have to have with the offense versus what he would have to have as a defensive player to get ready to be a true two-way player definitely has to lean more towards offense because defense a lot of times is there’s a lot of technique but the timing, the consistency, the the working to develop that chemistry with your quarterback, it just takes a little bit more time on that side of the ball. Whereas defense a lot of times is being an athlete. Yeah. And just reacting in the zone concept. All of a sudden you’re just breaking on a ball. If I had to put a percentage on it, I would say 65 35 I think is probably where that number would be at. Maybe, you know, maybe a little bit less than 65, but not much. And it makes sense to to build it on offense, too. I mean, that you got to score points in this league. You got a quarterback who’s got a massive contract, another receiver on the other side who had a great rookie year and uh yeah, you got to build up that offensive side. The defense will come along well and then and also uh he hasn’t signed his contract yet. You know, I think that that’s obviously on the horizon. there’s a I don’t think there’s a whole lot of difficulty to figuring that out because essentially you have a slotted system for the rookies, you know, but I just kind of wonder I mean with a with a player that’s going to play two ways, does that does that throw anything kind of into the mix? You know what I mean? Does that change the concept of or the position of an agent? I don’t there’s no wiggle room from a CBA standpoint. Yeah. What does it come down to? Let’s say fifth year option, right? Is it wide receiver? Depends on how many snaps he’s playing, right? If he’s playing more snaps at corner, then he might get the corner number, not the receiver number. Well, the the the agent’s always going to argue that it’s the higher number of the two. Doesn’t matter what the split is. Yeah. Yeah. Sure. If he’s doing his job anyway. Yeah. And the same thing when it comes to his second contract, if we get that far. Um, is he a wide receiver contract or is he going to get a quarterback? there’s two different or is he going to get a contract that essentially represents that he’s playing two positions and his contribution is from two positions? I mean, if that’s the case, I mean, you’re talking quarterback money or more, right? I mean, if if you’ve got a guy who is uh and and obviously we’re getting way Let’s tap the brakes, too. Can we play a game for Yeah, but I mean, it’s just fun to talk about the possibilities. I mean it because it at some point you could be looking at a player that agent would have a a viable position to say that look you got a player that can play he’s playing two positions he’s playing him at a high level so you can’t look at him as a single person getting paid you have to pay him as two but that’s down the road. He wants you to be his agent is what it sounds like to me if you’re talking that way. Uh, well, I think you probably want to be his agent, too, if that’s Can you Can you imagine? You know, 3% of Oh, man. 60 million a year. I mean, I mean, that’s the quarterback rate now, right? 60 million about right. Yeah. I think the agents fees are anywhere I think the cap, we put a cap on the agents fees a few years back, three or four. Um, I can’t remember what the number was, but I mean, years ago when I was a vice president of the union, we uh we instituted a cap because we had we actually had some guys that were getting charged ridiculous amounts, like 10. Yeah. Like there there was no there was no, you know, uh, guidelines for for the agents, you know, going back and we finally put a cap. I was, you know, I was one of the ones that was fighting for it because I was like, look, we can’t have guys that don’t know any better. All of a sudden, they sign a contract agreement with an agent and he’s getting charged seven or eight%. You know, because a lot of agents, you know, even after the fact that we put that in, they were trying to say, well, you know, I’m getting five, I think it was 5%. 5% is what I’m getting as an agent, but then I’m getting another 3% from a marketing standpoint. Oh, I see. Okay. They combined the Yeah. after we put the rules in place, but we shut that down. Yeah, that makes sense. We’re on 1010 XL Jaguars.com, Jaguars YouTube. It’s Jaguars happy hour. JP Shadrick with Jeff Logan. Um, and then the other side of the offense, Brian Thomas Jr. still looks good, man. Yeah, but is he not does he not become an afterthought? I mean, a little, right? But not not for long. I don’t think when it gets real, he won’t be. Well, and he’s and he’s not obviously, I don’t think, in anybody’s mind, but just the conversation with most teams of a rookie receiver having the year that he just had, he would be uh almost the focal point and with, you know, new staff, new front office, new uh players, a little bit uh forgotten, kind of in the mix, but not forgotten in my mind because I think he’s an outstanding player and I can’t wait to see what year two brings. And I’m really excited that year one happened the way it did because I think if you didn’t have all that happened last year with the injuries to the other wide receivers to Gabe and and and um Oh, Christian Kirk. Christian Kirk. Thank you. If you didn’t have those injuries to those guys, could you really truly have discovered how versatile that Brian Thomas Jr. can be? That’s a good point. what all that he can do. Great point. Because I think the the original thinking was is that he was kind of be he was going to be kind of wide receiver three and by the end of the year he was like wide receiver number one star star. Easy. Yeah. And number two. Yeah. Everybody else. Yeah. Exactly. Uh the other one that has shown so far that he is um in a good place is Demi Brown free agent edition. Liam Cohen talked about him the other day about his speed. Fast. Uh did did you have you looked at his college numbers? No. Pull his college numbers up. That’s a long time ago now. Well, it’s a long time ago, but I mean if you want kind of an indication of where the belief is in Dam Brown, five years. It’s not that. And uh you know a lot of times what what personnel people do in the league is they have a they have a college scouting report and then they kind of have an updated professional scouting report. And when certain players get the free agency for the first time, they go back to their college scouting evaluation to kind of get a an idea of what the opinion was on him coming out. And then they also look at it from what’s happened in recent past because look JP, a lot of times for example in in Washington prior to this year who was playing quarterback for the commandersh. Well, then you have a rookie. So, a lot of times when you have a situation like that where the ball getting delivered on time and accurately is not happening, you again go back to that college resume to take a look. And what do the numbers say? Uh, at his pro to ANC, 4.440, smoking fast, vertical jump of 35 and a half. Okay. So, broad jump 108. Give me some uh college numbers. Receiving yards, yards per catch. the yards per catch you’re going to look at and go, “Wow, okay, that gives me an idea of what this guy can be.” Oh dear. Um 2018, uh was young, didn’t play much, 173 yards, touchdown. Next year, 2019, 51 catches, 1,034 yards, 12 touchdowns, a 20.3 average. 20.3. And the next season, 2020, the shortened COVID year in the ACC, 1,099 yards. Not in the ACC. They played full uh but 1,099 yards and eight touchdowns with a 20 yard average. So backto back 20 yard average. That’s what I’m talking about. Okay. Wow. I think I think that that’s you know and then his pro compare that to his pro numbers. What did he average a catch as a pro with research department? No, I’m just I’m trying to make a point because I think again you’re going back to what can this guy do for this football team? What’s he capable of? because you don’t want to just look at the numbers of what he did in Washington, but you want to go back and see what kind of numbers that he was doing college versus what he was doing in Washington to what he could do maybe here. I mean, he was underutilized in Washington. I mean, he he only yards per catch. I mean, 13.3 for his career. Yeah, that’s my point. Four years and I mean, he had one season where he had 12 catches, another with five, another with 12, and then 30 last year and only 300 yards. Like so which which my point is in this and that I think Dame Brown can be a dynamic addition to this wide receiver group from the standpoint of here here’s a guy that can go vertical. Brian Thomas Jr. we know can go vertical. Okay. Travis Hunter we know has got great speed, great hands, the ability to make contested catches, you know. So, you’re going to have three legitimate guys that can run deep. Most of the time when you’re facing or if you looked at this team in the past, let’s say the Doug Peterson era, who was the deep ball guy? It was really, did you really have one? Not truly. You really never have one, right? No. So, you went from now all of a sudden to having maybe one last year with Brian Brian would have been the only one. Now, you got three. Mhm. Quarterback. I’m I’m sitting there going, “Oh, yeah. Oh boy. Yeah. Oh boy. Oh yeah. 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Open an Everbank performance savings account and score serious savings. See what you could earn at everbank.com/jaguars. Ever advantage you member FDIC and the official bank of the Jacksonville Jaguars. Just really excited about those guys. I mean, obviously their ability to rush, but uh they’ve done a really good job in a run game to this point, too. Uh just really excited about those guys. I mean obviously their ability to run Anthony Campanelli the defensive coordinator. We’ll try to get that again a little bit later. Welcome back. It’s Jaguars happy hour. JP Shadrick, Jeff Logam, and he was starting to discuss the pass rushers for the Jaguars. Josh Hines Allen, Trayvon Walker, Emanuel Agba in the group now as well. Who was that last guy you mentioned? Agba. was down in Miami with 40 something sacks in his career. I I got to say, just going back to last year, well, I mean, what what a gross mismanagement of the defensive line room there was last year. Yeah. I mean, in a lot of ways, at what point, and I get it, we’re it’s the offseason, we’re talking through it still. At what point do we put that in the rear view? Trading camp. Uh yeah, when they Yeah, I mean, when they move forward. Well, I mean, I kind of have it in the rearview, but I mean I bring it up just for reference. Well, I mean, it’s all part of relevant. I mean, if you look at jaguars.com, Eric Armstead’s listed as a defensive tackle. Yeah. Well, if you look at a lot of other guys that are defensive linemen, what is their designation? Yeah. Yeah. There are some that say DL, defensive lineman, some DE. Yeah, you’re right. Right. Now, there are some that are specifically defensive end and there are some that are specifically defensive tackle, but there are many that are defensive line. I’ll read them out to you, Josh. Allen, Trayvon Walker, Miles Cole are the defensive ends, three of them. Okay. Defensive tackles, uh, Devon Hamilton, Eric Armstead, Tyler Lacy, Mason Smith, Jordan Jefferson, defensive lineman, DL listings, Eli Mostard, uh, Emanuel Agba listed as a Dline, Danny Strigo, uh, BJ Green II, rookie out of Colorado, Ethan DS, a rookie out of Oklahoma, and Ki Rose, a rookie out of Arkansas, and James Carpenter, a rookie out of Indiana. Those are the Dlinemen. Kind of interesting, right? I mean, last year there was that whole kind of debate. Where is Eric Armstead at? Where should he be at? Why is he not playing inside more? They’re not getting any pressure inside. And there were two different stories, right? It was like, oh, he wanted to part of the deal was he’s going to play outside. That’s what we heard earlier in the season. At the end of the season, I’m in the locker room. He said no. And I asked him I asked him the question like are you better inside or outside? He’s like ah I wanted to play inside. I’m going to go act inside. Okay. I mean I So he said she said and was playing 25 20 25 snaps a game. Okay. Right. Yeah. as a free agent. I mean, it was just it was very So, when I to go back to my original statement, the mismanagement of that room, you had a lot of defensive tackles and then essentially the third best defensive end, you traded away to Seattle. That’s right. Yeah. Before the the regular season even began. Mhm. And you kept a lot of these uh defensive tackles and a lot of them were basically of the same mold and it didn’t work out very well and uh and the management I think on game day wasn’t even better from a coaching standpoint. So yeah, very interesting year last year. That’s one of the most interesting years from a defensive standpoint that I have ever seen in Jaguars history. Don’t want to see it again. Yeah, it was interesting but it was awful. awfully interesting. Awful. Brutal. It was it was uh it was on pace to be like the worst defense in Jaguars history. And you could make the argument that it was, but but the the talent was nowhere near that. I mean, just I’ve seen bad defenses with bad personnel. That defense last year wasn’t that bad of personnel to be that bad. Now, let’s get to maybe some of the reason behind that. And we talked about weighing air quotes the option, okay, on defense. Moving ahead. Well, it looks like Devin Lloyd’s trimmed up some. It looks like Josh Hines Allen has trimmed a little bit of weight. Trayvon Walker said he’s only lost three lbs, but his body feels the composition might feel a little different. He hasn’t done a test yet. Um, they were playing pretty heavy last year. Well, I think they were trying to be the the number one get off the bus club in the National Football League. You know, the when they all look big and then all of a sudden, wait a minute. Well, how effective does does bigger mean more effective? No, not necessarily. I remember just from a personal standpoint, I was never better when I was heavier or at my heaviest. When were you at your heaviest, you think? About 272. 27 Jacksonville here. Okay. You know, but I think I played my best when I was around 65. 67 was a little too much. And a lot of people say, “Well, it’s only 5 pounds.” Well, 5 pounds can make a big difference. And Devin Lloyd last year was like 250. Um, he doesn’t look anywhere close to 250 right now. No, he does not actually. He looks 230 40 34 somewhere in that range. Um, which will be good for him. I mean, he’s got to move. You know, you got to move to play linebacker. This defense is going to be a defense that plays fast. And I mean, obviously a huge year for him. No fifth year option. Final year of his rookie deal. Look, when you don’t get the fifth year option, that’s telling you something, right? But I’m excited about Campanelli because you know what? If you if you go back and you look at every team that the Jaguars played last year, I remember raving about Green Bay’s defense in particular, not so much Jordan Love, but their defense because they just didn’t make any mistakes. They were always in sync. They were communicating at the pre- snap to the play once it got snapped. And they always seemed to be in position to make plays, which was the entire exact opposite for the Jaguars defense. Yeah, sure. More mental errors than anybody in the National Football League last year. More explosives allowed in the National Football League than anybody last year. And largely due to the fact that they were having mental errors. So excited about Anthony Campenley’s presence with this defense to get it all back to be in a disciplined state I think would be a good way to put it. Jaguars football is presented by Fresh from Florida. 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Oh, uh um the linebacker from uh Winona High School in Birmingham. has a brother on the defensive line, Williams. Quincy Williams. Yes, Quincy. See, Williams, good football player there for the Jets. Yeah. What happened there? Um, probably not enough patience for him to to and uh, you know, there’s a very defined role for Quincy that allows him to be at his best and the Jets, I think, have done a really good job of putting him in that position. And then it just the maturity too. Got to give him a little credit for for that. Let’s come back in a moment. We will see how you watch practice. Curious about this. What do you watch this time of year? Everything. All the time. Everything. Okay. Don’t Don’t kill the tease. We’re back in a you I’ll give you one little teaser. I’m going to I’m going to give you one opportunity when we come back. Yeah. I want you to guess what’s the first thing that I look at when I walk out to practice this year. Okay, back in a moment. Plenty ahead. 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I’m not going to use it as an excuse, but I mean it definitely played a little I felt like it played a little bit of toll on me close to the end of the season as we kind of got on, but uh it has its pros and its cons. Trayvon Walker after practice a couple days ago discussing that extra weight from a season ago. Welcome back. It’s Jaguars happy hour. JP Shadrick with Jeff Logerman who left us with a question before the timeout. I did. What was it? That question is JP this year the new year under Liam Con, James Gladstone, Tony Baselli. When I walk out to practice, what’s the first thing that I look for? I’m going to take a I could guess a number of different ways here. Clearly, there’s 91 guys out there right now and coaches and things. Um, I would guess a couple things. Okay. No, you get one. Get one. Just give me one and I’ll say yay or nay and then we’ll go to the next one. I’ll go to the next one. I I think you look for who the first player out there is. Okay. Is that right? No. I think you look for where the Gatorade cooler is. Um, that’s a close second or third. Wow. Yeah. Second or third. Yeah. But, uh, but not number one. I think you Let me know when you’re ready for a hint. Yeah, I’m ready. Okay. Think colors. Teal and white. Teal and white. What is Travis Hunter? There you go. Well, are they wearing teal or black and white? Huh? They’re not wearing teal, are they? Or are they? They will They wear teal or white. offense, white on defense. There you go. Okay. They do wear teal. Yeah, I guess they do. So, it’s the first thing they have for I mean, it’s it’s kind of crazy, but that was going to be my first guess, but it’s too easy. That was too easy. Come on, man. Everybody’s looking at that. I mean, but it’s that’s amazing, right? I mean, when’s when’s the last time you ever went out to a practice and you were looking to see what position a guy was going to line up at? I mean, it’s And I remember I walked out there today and I I caught myself because I mean, the first thing I look for, is he wearing white? Is he wearing teal? Yeah. Right. And I said to myself, I’ve never done that. I’ve never done that. No. And all of my time in the National Football League, I’ve never walked out to a practice to see was a guy wearing an offensive color jersey or a defensive color jersey. It is pretty cool. Question for you. When it comes to practice time in the regular season, he’ll just wear one jersey and switch sides of the field during the week of practice, right? No, he’s got to change from or Yeah, you have to have to. You can’t have a guy who’s wearing a teal color jersey and the offense is in teal and he’s playing defense. I mean, sure, but is he just create a little confusion? Trevor would like throwing him the ball. Have pads on. He’s got a change. Yeah. All right. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, what they would, my guess is they’ll probably have one of those pullover things. Ah, like a tear away. Like Velcro that’s like a sleeveless pullover jersey that they can take on and off like they do with special teams when they put on like a red jersey or red caps on the helmet. You know, they could probably do something like that. See that? Busy time at Dy’s place. By the way, Locks, the 2025 season is upon us. And coming up May 31st, Kodak Black replacing T. Payne 2 days from now. Sticks with Kevin Cronin, Don Belder June 2nd. That’s next week. Old Dominion June 6th. That’ll be a packed house. Plenty more ahead throughout the spring and summer. Dailyplays.com for tickets and show information. You got one tonight across the road, right? Yeah. Tyler Chers is uh at the Star Arena. Yeah. Sweet. Tonight. Going to check that out. Give us your best rendition of his hit song. Okay. No. No. Come on. It’s karaoke time. You do not want me even attempting to sing. Now, my daughter, she would be a a good person asked to do something like that. But me, uh, no. So, you mentioned the first thing you see when you go out there, first thing I look for, they look for is Travis Hunter. What’s he wearing after that? Give us a like a synopsis of a regular OTAA practice when you’re out there. Which side are you on? Are you moving around? Like what’s what stands out to you the most when you’re out there? I Well, I I move around. My eyes move around a lot. My body doesn’t move around a ton. I wonder why. Um, but you know, here’s the thing about this time of year. You can’t really get any kind of gauge on the big guys. That’s right. So there’s not a lot a lot of evaluation other than okay maybe a new guy you just want to see his body see how he moves because you know as a as a playby-play guy which you’ve been color analyst you want to see how body types move so that you can identify that person on the field without actually having to see the jersey number. Correct. What do they look like? How do they move? Mhm. So you look at that from from that standpoint, but the seven on seven guys is what you’re watching this time of year, which the seven on seven for people that don’t know in a in a practice you have different periods. Seven on seven is essentially the seven skill position on offense versus the seven guys that can be dropping into coverage on defense. linebackers, defensive backs versus tight ends, wide receivers, running back, quarterback. So, you’re watching those guys. You’re looking for timing. You’re looking for the effort, the finish, the hustle. You look at all of it. And you also in practice you’re looking at in the individual period who’s getting to the front of the line, who leads by example, who’s walking off the field, how do coaches communicate to the players, what players are are having eye contact, which players are talking ball on the sideline. Yeah, sure. I mean, so there’s a lot of things that you look at, but it’s for the most part, it’s that seven on seven group, which uh a lot of people would make the argument that the big guys, the old nine on seven period, is what you want to watch to determine how good of a football team it can be. You can’t watch Yeah. You can’t watch that until they get pads on. Not doing that right now. And that’s a limited opportunity even when they get pads on. There you go. That’s what you watch for. But I you go back and watch film, too, or no? this time of year. No. Now, I’ll watch film on some of the guys that they sign in free agency now. Yeah. Right. You know, just to kind of get a gauge and I and I’ve watched some of the undrafted rookies, you know, watch some of their Finn like Danny Frigot. I watched him to see what kind of a player he is. Um just to give you a little bit of a a baseline. And then also when you go talk to a guy when you talk to a guy, if you actually have watched him and you understand the components of his game a little bit, it makes for a little bit better conversation because they know that you’re you’re paying attention. That’s right. And you don’t want to start talking to a guy and you don’t have a clue of where he’s from, what he’s done, what he’s like. And even guys like in free agency, I mean, you you read their bios, you read where they come from. Perfect example, Diami Brown. I pulled those numbers up, right? Because I was reading about him. I wanted to know where he came from, where he’s been. Um, so I mean, stuff like that, I think it it it gives you a little better understanding of how to paint the picture of the guys that you’re watching. Here’s a question for you. Could you cut the team right now if you wanted to? Absolutely. Too early. Nope. Couldn’t do it. You There’s a lot of guys, JP, this time of year look fantastic. Oh, yeah. And the first time that they put pads on, just I’m gonna give you a story. Yeah. Let me give you a story. Okay. So, uh, when I was with the Jets, we had I’m going to keep the names out of it. Well, come on. That’s the whole point. Well, I mean, they’re all out of the league, right? All right. All right. It was seven years old talking about seven years. What do you mean seven years old? I was eight years old when you were the Jets. So, I I can’t remember what year this was, but we drafted a guy from Southern Cal Belli school. Okay. But you think everybody’s tough, eh? Okay. So, we drafted a guy, linebacker and all through mini camp and then we had a some semblance of OTAAS, but it wasn’t anything structured like it is nowadays. He looked good, you know, moved well, um, looked the part, you know, body type said linebacker. Mhm. And the second round pick story told you also probably a really good linebacker, right? Second round pick. Sure. First day of pads rolls around. Training camp. In case he looked good at training camp, no pads. First day of pads roll around. He comes out of the locker room with hand pads, forearm pads, elbow pads. And I was like, is this guy like the Jack Lambert of the 70s, right? And he had all these pads on because he didn’t like contact. Ahu. And I and I kind of was like, did he was he worried about getting hurt? And anyway, um it wasn’t very impressive the first day in pads. Okay. It was a guy that was not exactly one that enjoyed the contact to say that. So, did they start going after him in practice because of that? Oh, yeah. Can you imagine? You got to get better, man. A rookie walking out of the lock because where you’re wearing no pads. Yeah. For the start of training camp, right? And he’s got nothing on his arms or anything like that and all a sudden we put shoulder pads on. He comes out there like like the kids getting ready to be a hockey goalie and he stuffed his whole jersey with paper towels and rags so he doesn’t get hurt from the puck or something. Wow. We ragged him so bad. I bet. Like dude, what that’s what teammates are for, right? What is What is all of the pads? Can you move? Can Can I get you a neck roll? He’s like the kid in the Christmas story with the jacket. He can’t move. Do you got a mouthpiece? How about some shin pads? Can I get you some shin pads? Oh man. Hey, you don’t have any hip pads and want me to go get you some hip pads. Love that. Let’s come back in just a moment. Our final thoughts. I didn’t give his name. I think I have it. If you want me to start naming names, you could probably figure that one out. I I’ve got it right here. Yeah. You want me to name it? Nah. No. Nah, keep them names. Okay, that’s back in a moment. Tintenxljaguars.com. Jaguars YouTube. It is Jaguars happy hour. 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You know, I don’t know that there was much expectation as much as it was just curiosity. People will learn pretty quick once we start making legit decisions that we know what the up. James came to leave and I were sitting in the draft room and he says, “You think about maybe making a phone call to Cleveland. Regardless of how things fall, we’ll end up in a position to be better tomorrow than we were today.” Pretty much immediately, at least in my mind, it’s like, why not? The night still good for the same timing. Executing it. Yeah, that sounds good. It wasn’t at our mercy, but there was confidence that it would be able to get done. We’re going to draft a Hall of Famer with your first overall pick. A lot of people said, “Well, boy, you gave up a lot.” My response is, “Did we? We got the best player.” Time will tell. To me, it was a small price to pay. Let’s make history. Let’s go. Fear of the unknown. That can be an inhibitor. Trip is giving the thumbs up on our enjoy the rest of the way. All right. The moments that I didn’t take action out of fear, I had looked back and regretted. Hey Travis, this is James Gladstone with the Jacksonville Jaguars. How you doing? For the rest of my life, when there’s opportunity for me to face fear, I challenge it. Cuz you’re the one we’ve been hunting up. Yes, sir. That’s the best decision. I’m hopeful that that brings with it positive results, but only time will tell. That is a teaser for The Hunt. Episode two entitled Time Will Tell debuts tonight. Jaguars.com, Jaguars YouTube, 7:00 tonight logs. 40 minutes worth of inside the trade for Travis Hunter. It is absolutely mustwatch TV in my opinion. I’m a huge fan of The Hunt. Um, I’ve been uh tooting that horn for the last couple years now. The job that the Jaguars production staff does with this program is amazing. The access has never been as great as it is now, which makes the storytelling even more compelling. I will watch it tomorrow. Trust me, I won’t watch it tonight. You’re kind of busy today. Got a little busy tonight. But uh in fact uh on the way in here today, I took a Uber in today, not because I was drinking heavily today, but because we’re meeting the family down here today and we’re all be in one vehicle. Hey, no judgment. Um I wasn’t day drinking. And I was talking to the guy, John, that was uh my driver. Had a really nice car, by the way. And trying to get free rides. What are you doing? No. Anyway, and and I was telling him about this program, The HUD. Yeah. And I told him, I said, ‘Look, I said this is an incredible show. You need to watch it. And he he asked me immediately, “Is it available on YouTube?” And I said, “That’s where it’s at.” Said, “Check it out.” So, uh, so he said, he’s all fired up to watch it. He didn’t even know that something like that existed. So, I’m here to tell you folks, if if you love the Jaguars and you love football, you love compelling stories, watch the hunt. I’m going to guess that the actual selection of Travis Hunter was less than 40 minutes into the draft real time. This is 40 minutes worth of content around that moment. So, which is pretty cool with info and and behind the scenes and uh and how many episodes total? I don’t know. Is it going to be? I don’t know. There’s so much stuff that I mean this whole crew over here is has got stuff on the floor and in the deep in the archives and they’re going to dig it out as we go along here. It’s always ended kind of once the season began, right? Um, could it end up continuing into the season? That would be cool. Huh. Interesting. Or I mean, are you going to somebody or I’m just saying I would You’re asking now. I would watch it, right? Yeah. Why not? Well, I mean, as long as as long as you’re not, you gota you got to be smart. And our our production department is smart. There are some that aren’t. I was going to say, hey, I’ll leave this to you. I’m out of this one. I’m just kidding. Having a little fun there. Uhhuh. Having a little fun there. But I’m excited about the hunt. Um, folks, go to YouTube, type in Jacksonville Jaguars, the hunt, the name of the team. Subscribe. Check it out. Check it out, man. And don’t watch two if you haven’t seen one. Yeah. Go back and watch one before you watch two. Good idea. They’re kind of in order. The numbers. Ignore the ones in the past that have had previous regimes and all that kind of stuff. The rear view. You’re done with those. Yeah. I mean, it’s it’s time to move. We’re we’re looking ahead. Well, earlier earlier you were looking at the rear view. Still talking about the defense. Well, you got to kind of know where you’ve been to understand where you’re headed. Well, that’s deep thoughts and why why we have uh all jumped on the direction that this team is traveling at? Why we’re all kind of on board. That’s deep thoughts. What’s in that coffee anyway tonight? My goodness. Deep. It was deep. No whiskey. They didn’t have that option over there at the coffee station here at the mech, I would say. So, no. So, probably not. Although, you know, I I probably wouldn’t mind one of those Irish cream things in here. Wouldn’t be a bad idea. It may not be a great idea before a radio show, but No. Well, it might make it really interesting. It would be I had a guy might be the last one. I had a guy, not to name any names again. Yeah, you’re Why don’t you ever name names, man? Like, come on. Say it with your chest. I had a guy that I worked with in the past doing uh one of these very shows that would come in with a coffee cup kind of like this and it didn’t necessarily have coffee in it. Hey, and by the time the the show got towards the end of the first hour, sometimes second hour, things got a little interesting. Uhhuh. Yeah. Okay. We’ll we’ll stay away from that. I think I’m not a I’m not a proponent or one that uh likes the magic coffee. I’m okay with regular coffee. I’m not going to ask you about the magic coffee. That’s a different Hey, uh next week OTAAS. What? There’s another one tomorrow, I suppose. And then there’s what? Four on the schedule next week. The final week of OTAAS. And then the week after that, three-day mandatory mini camp and then it’s all over. Yeah, the mini camp is really what I’m looking forward to. I I I expect that to be kind of pretty competitive. I mean the OTAAS that they’re doing right now is uh it it doesn’t have that not all of them like today was kind of chill but some of them are competitive some of them they scale it back a little bit and the mini camp I would expect to be uh highly competitive and I’m looking forward to that which is I believe the 10th 11th 12th of June. Correct. Looking forward to that very much. Mhm. There’ll be some surprise announcements coming up regarding one of those days. So, but we’ll tease that. Stay tuned. Stay tuned. I like that idea. Stay tuned. You don’t even know what I’m talking about. Well, I mean, maybe Travis Hunter has a jersey that’s half white and half teal. What was the Because that’s the first thing I’m looking for, right? Maybe. Maybe. So, but they have Trevor Lawrence jerseys like that. Clemson Jaguars. I think I’ve seen people with those. I’ve never seen 5050 down in the middle. One six. I’m excited to see what he’s going to do this year. I’m dead serious about this. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, come on, man. Because, you know, here’s the reality. If you look back and and see what Liam Conn did with Baker Mayfield, you look at and I believe the Jaguars have a very smart offensive coordinator who’s very young who is going to be a hot coaching candidate at some point and Grant Udinski. You combine Liam Conn Udinski with Trevor who is as hardworking and as mature as any quarterback that you could have. I think that that’s going to be a really strong recipe for success this year. And I’m not saying they’re going to win it all or anything of that nature. I just think it’s going to be really good for this football team. And I think it’s going to be really good for Trevor this year. And if you look at what’s happening in front of him and then also what’s happening on the periphery of him, which is the talent, and then also behind him, all of those areas have been, I think, upgraded and made to have more competition than arguably ever before in his tenure here. A lot of it, too. Liam Cohen talked about this and Trevor has talked about it this off seasonason is that the work on footwork that kind of goes with the progressions in this offense and it’ll just continue to be a work in progress for him I think. Well, and that that’s what this time of year is for. If you go back and you look at the very first OTAA that they had, it wasn’t a great day for Trevor, you know. So part of I think acclimating to the new system is getting an understanding of what’s expected and how to do it from a footwork standpoint because the reality is how many times have you heard me JP saying watching film on a quarterback and saying he’s got no chance because his feet ain’t right. I mean with quarterbacks if you watch their feet you can literally a lot of times watch film ignore where the ball is watch the feet of the quarterback. Okay? like put a piece of paper over the the uh the screen so all you can see is is to watch the feet of the quarterback and then with I would say 75% accuracy you can say whether or not that was a successful play or not based on just watching the feet of the quarterback and that’s true and this is the time of year where you’ve got to break the old habits establish the new and essentially um evolve into the offense with your whole body and that with a quarterback obviously the feet are critical. Run game will help too. Well, and two new running backs. Yeah. Right. In that back field. It’s going to be fascinating to see how camp goes there. I can’t wait to see it. Look, competition’s great, man. Look, in the past that was, I think a position group that had very little competition. Mhm. I mean, you you you added Tank Bsby, but before that you’re like, did they add anybody? Not of consequence. No. Did like last year, if you looked at the running back room, did you have any idea or any kind of curiosity about who was going to make the team at the running back spot? Nope. Or how the roles would be defined? Nope. Nope. How does that look this year? I mean, yeah, there’s all a whole new group. You got Toutin, um, Allen, and Jackson. McQuinn Allen. Yeah. There’s an undrafted Tank Bsby. Who’s going to get Robinson? Yeah. Who’s going to get what? Wow. That I think that’s the beauty of what’s kind of changed with this team last year offensive line. Did you ever have an idea or did you ever think for a minute last year going into training camp, you know what, I don’t know who’s going to start at left guard. I’m not sure. Or did you know every position where it was going to be at? It’s tough. You had an idea, right? Yeah, that’s right. This year, oh, it’s I think there’s competition, legitimate competition at, I would say, three positions. We talked about renaming the positions on the defensive line. All the offensive line are listed as O now on the roster. Hey, wide open. Wide open. Logs will see you in two weeks. Looking forward to this program. We’ll see you in two weeks during the mini camp. Yes, Jeff Logan. Our thanks to David Cho, Brent Weber, Joe Fortunado, and thanks to you for listening to Jaguar’s Happy Hour. [Music] [Music]

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