The Blue Jays Were MLB’s Next Great Team. What Happened?

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2. There are too many goofy television commercials and not enough focus on baseball.

3. I still dont understand how soooo many people believed Ohtani was on that flight when there was a lot of evidence saying he wasn't. Toronto fans are still blaming Ohtani and going on with this conspiracy and its sad. Also, Morosi and a lot of other journalists lost so much credibility for wanting to be the "first" to break the news, even you stupid Dodgers Nation with your stupid article.

4. Shapiro and Atkins are what happened

5. but pay Guerrero to much money and he is playing the shits what a waste of money

6. Yup

7. Shatkins have proven to be disappointing stewards of the franchise, and yet despite their incompetence, and obvious weak hand in every contract negotiation, Rogers still thinks they can get it done with lackluster management. Toronto sports fans (Canadian sports fans, generally) are always left feeling like a jilted girlfriend when their stars walk away, or toy with our emotions as their "back-up option" before they sign with another team. Is it partly to blame on the Toronto sports media landscape? Probably – they can't help but feed the rumour mills and gossip about incoming contracts for high profile signings, which makes players question their privacy and security. It burned the Raptors trying to sign Kawhi Leonard to a deal after they won the NBA Finals in 2019, hyped up Giannis Antetokounmpo in 2020, and they've missed out repeatedly on massive free agents in the MLB and NHL.

   The players who are here say they enjoy the city and the fans, but you never hear about the franchise itself being a worthwhile employer, or the owners of the team being good partners. I'm so sick of watching division rivals scooping players from the Jays on a bargain, and always playing second fiddle to teams with comparable or lesser market size. The inexplicable plundering of the bullpen and handing away draft prospects that have gone on to have success in other corners of the MLB. The apparent willingness to sell the farm for one player, while withholding or scamming proven players within the Blue Jays team dugout. Atkins and Shapiro rank near the bottom of the MLB front offices as voted on by members of the league itself, and it shows in the team's dwindling performances in a shiny newly refit stadium that the Jays can't seem to hit in. The day they announce the firing of the front office, Toronto fans will throw a city-wide parade. Nearly a decade of this shit with nothing to show for it except a $500 million contract to Vladdy. Yippee.

8. Holy PTSD

9. Zero wins in the playoffs is what happened, now you guys don't need to watch the video, you're welcome

10. 2016 Jays were better

11. There needs to be a house cleaning.

12. Well for 500M I hope Donkey Kong Jr. is all that and a bag of chips. I think reality will show something different.

13. I feel like 99% of the time, "bad ownership" will answer the question "why did team X with so much potential do nothing?" With the Jays, it might not be willingly malicious ownership like you see with the Pirates or Rockies, more just not having the right people in place to make the right decisions.

14. No leadership of any kind, just a couple of above average degenerates who only care about money and solo success.

15. Cause Blue Jays suck and always have facts.

16. Salary cap

17. What happened was Vlad was a bust. DP King. A real letdown.

18. Is called rigging the games, everyone knows that it doesn't matter if they win or lose as long as you keep the butts on the seats, like the maple leafs, hoping and hoping, we've had 4 chances for the trophy but magically don't get it, since it's not good business practice to let the jays win, is not American dollars for the executives

19. Ross Twatkins and Snakey Schneider

20. Vlad is the root cause of this team's problem. He's a TRUE TEAM CANCER.

21. The Blue Jays and Maple Leafs are the worst teams in professional sports. When saying this we must consider the budgets and popularity of the teams throughout the decades…. relative to their budget and revenue no one comes near Toronto Blue Jays in terms of $ per win, and as far as the Maple Leafs go, they are historic losers…. its a symptom of Toronto itself, its a loser city with no identity that doesnt do anything better than anyone else. Toronto is the Drake of cities, #2 at everything and #1 at nothing.

22. Bad management. That is all. Shatkins.

23. They stink. That's what happened.

24. Blue Jays wrecked their team by overly adjusting for their failures.You have a good team you add and run it back. Trading your pieces and wrecking the locker room creates chaos.

25. Blue Jays unfulfilled potential summed up in two words: Cavan Biggio.

26. After they got rid off AA, this was known failure anyway

27. been watching the blue jays consistently for over 6 years, watching this video was painful and heart shattering to watch, the worse part is that, the creator of this video only included about 75 of the tragic stories and events we experienced, for example, we where the final bidders for kyle shwarber, we also had a very solid deal set up for lindor but that wasnt completed, this is just examples, there is much more. letting semien walk as well as trading 2x silver slugger teoscar hernadez was where the toronto blue jays started to decline, atkins performed well during offseasons for majority of the years. He would go for what the team truly needed as the seasons went on. the problem was that the teams pros eventually became the teams cons, while the old cons became pros for the team.

28. I remember those years well & missed them! The teams core only was really all there in 2015 & 2016!

    It’s never been surprising to me that things declined the way they did though. The core guys were already well into their 30s iirc. I mean Bautista was the best player in that core & while he was still doing really well in 2015 & 2016 to a lesser extent he was at that point of his career where every season his production was falling off. Retired after the what? 2018 season iirc?

29. Anyone paying any attention knows that Mark Shapiro and Ross Atkins are just awful. They are politicians through and through. Not baseball guys. They never should have been hired and everyone saw this coming for years and years. Running Anthropolous out of town was terrible. You hear those 2 talk and you just know they will never amount to anything. They inherited a team that was a division winner and a decent farm system. Last season they were last in the division and they have one of the worst farms in baseball now. They have drafted almost no one good in a little less than a decade. Disgusting they are still employed.

30. What happened is they let A A go

31. There's not much to get excited about with the Jays for ages now – That includes the team with the infamous 'bat flip' against Texas. Their last real chance was ages ago when they had Roy Halladay – They could of had him AND Chris Carpenter in the rotation with a strong lineup but once again didn't get a closer and had a crummy pen… they wasted one of the baseball's most elite pitchers because they were cheap and didn't value winning simple as that. I was spoiled with the late 80's early 90s Jays with Tom & Jerry calling the games and 2 world championships… the Jays ever since in comparison are a yawn fest.

32. Just for the record, the Jays were used as leverage in the Ohtani negotiations. There's lots of reason to believe that his agency leaked to Morosi that he was headed to the Jays, just to put pressure on LA. 'They made the same offer as the Dodgers' in itself shows that he/his camp only ever treated the Jays as leverage for his position in negotiations with LA.

33. What happened? Shapiro took over and proved once again how truly incompetent he is. 5th highest payroll this year and not even a .500 team that is old and on top of that no reinforcements in sight as the farm system is terrible as well.

34. Ross's analytics show him that the Jays are the best team in the league and will never lose a game again.

35. As a Mariners fan I love John Schneider. I wish he could manage all of the Mariners' opponents!

36. Jon Morosi throwing conjecture at the wall and calling it reporting.
    Dude's average is well below the Mendoza line! 😂

37. I’m convinced Tony Hinchcliffe is behind this account

38. There’s a lot of things you can blame on this management but nobody should blame the 2023 loss on Schneider pulling Berrios in the ALDS, because we didn’t score a single run that game and Yusei only gave up one run in relief.

39. The fact you made this video before you made one about the orioles who are having a catastrophic season tells me everything i need to know about you as your bias against canadian teams is showing

40. Those were some fun seasons to watch 🙁

41. What happened? Rogers makes money without winning. No urgency to win. Players get paid and complacent. It's not their fault. If the culture was right

42. 2 words Ross Atkins

43. What a great way to start your video. Nice work.

44. Toronto is where players go to retire

45. they have been a .500 team for years and will continue to be the same for years to come.

46. signing an obese man to a long term contract because he can hit home runs. Then he lost 20 pounds and can't hit anymore. Along with a stadium located in the worst possible location to get to. We stayed at a hotel, that we could see the stadium from. It was a 45 minute drive. You couldn't walk, because construction projects blocked access.