Kevin Durant Trade Talks HEAT UP And THESE Are Deals The Phoenix Suns Could Make

Kevin Durant Trade Talks HEAT UP And THESE Are Deals The Phoenix Suns Could Make

what’s this breaking news No this can’t be real Okay Reports are telling PHNX Suns there is likely to be a Kevin Durant trade at some point Psychos and sickos unite for yet another trade machine edition of PHNX Suns coming to you live from Studio K presented by Circle K Join the Inner Circle for free by downloading the Circle K app today Terms conditions apply at participating locations Visit circlek.com for more details Massive show today Lots and lots of rumors and news swirling around Sun’s Land I’m glad that all of you are here with us I’m Eric That’s Stephen We got Aritin the freckled mama behind the Mac making all of the magic happen But of course we are nothing without you Everybody in the chat currently on YouTube after the fact listening on audio And yes even our dear TV viewers you are all most important to what we’ve got going on here Especially because you hit that like button especially because you hit that subscribe button And of course if you are on audio five star reviews go an incredibly long way in helping to grow the show We have a packed show filled to the brim with trades I got two team trades three team trades We got a deal for every single team linked to Kevin Durant and the Phoenix Suns all right here today Plus at the very end we’re going to be going through some frosty takes as well But first things first Stephen how you doing um I’m confused Whoa wait wait This is I want this on the record This is the first time that I’ve asked Stephen that and the response has not been I’m great I’m that too but I’m confused before that I’m confused Well it’s trade machine Thursday We usually do them on Tuesday so everything is thrown out of whack Obviously legitimate reasoning behind that with pressure on Tuesday but also there’s so much conflicting reporting going on There is a lot going on Yes All I ask for now I’m confused for others because I’m I’m I’m imagining being a consumer of sports news especially for the Suns and you’re hearing this one day and then this the next day and then this two hours after what you just heard They refuse everything that you heard prior to then And it’s like what do I trust and I say just trust patience There’s going to be a lot of back and forth going on Some of it will might be legitimate reporting Some of it might be false reporting to kind of shift the leverage Everybody has a role to play in this entire circus of NBA transactions to be Just be patient because you will do mental gymnastics and ultimately leave yourself tied up in ways that you can’t untangle yourself from mentally and just not know who to trust or who to believe So just be patient The dust is starting to settle on teams kicking their gears on making moves or at least initiating conversations It feels like it’s inevitable at this point Just be patient because you are going to run yourself tired and it’s barely June right now Yeah I will I will say this It is hard to tell what’s true what’s not There are some very reliable sources out there I I’ll put Gambo in the reliable source category I will put Shams in the reliable source category I will put Flex in the reliable source category Uh not trying to take away from a lot of people Obviously Gerald but Gerald doesn’t dip his toe into that too often Obviously but when Gerald says something I I obviously very much trust it Beyond that take what you see as a grain of salt And I’m not saying that these reporters or personalities can be incorrect I’m just saying that a majority of the time when there’s big news that happens it comes from sources like that So that being said we know that yesterday there was this big swelling of Minnesota and Houston talk and of course over the last couple of weeks it’s felt like the Spurs have been an inevitable destination We did get an update from Sham Serrania earlier today about the state of AD trade Nothing too specific but still worth passing along here today There is traction around trade scenarios for Kevin Durant and there are some teams that are motivated to get this deal done sooner rather than later And now this could be something that lingers closer to the NBA draft Could you get it done a day or two before that June 25th draft potentially but there is motivation on some sides And the focus of the Suns conversations as of the last 24 hours has been around the Houston Rockets San Antonio Spurs Minnesota Timber Wolves Miami Heat and the New York Knicks and Durant is on an expiring contract for upwards of $50 million So it’s going to be the riskreward of needing him and seeing his his buy into whatever team you you you are and you hope that he wants to be long term versus potentially just taking a swing and seeing can you keep him and then compete for a championship sooner rather than later Stephen I’m just so ready Honestly I’m ready for this to be over I know it’s kind of fun and and it gives us content and stuff to talk about but are you as ready for for a trade to happen as I am not necessarily a trade but naturally because it probably aligns with it There you go Eritton It’s the the um the clarity part that I’ve been speaking to since the start of well really since the downfall of the season going into the offseason and the ultimate decisions that have been made so far is clarity clarity clarity clarity um whether trade does or doesn’t happen what it’s going to do is going to give clarity to what it is they’re working towards next season how quickly this retool might take or if it’s going to drag and ultimately what the pieces within it all kind of look like for the roster that I needs to be his best self Carlos says “Same here Eric But with a bee trade I’m not I’m not waiting on edge as much for a bee trade because I don’t expect that really to happen to be honest with you If it happens I’ll be pleasantly surprised.” with the KD trade You know I in 99.9% chance expect that to happen Expect for for that to be going down somewhat soon I just want I want clarity on who the Suns are going to be next season of what they get back for Kevin Durant obviously is a really big part of that I want clarity on who they should be drafting because who they get back is also a really big part of that A huge reason why it it needs to be done before the 25th before the draft So we’ve set the scene Stephen is it time to to dive into some trades yep Let’s get it Let’s do it Let’s start it off with the Miami Heat and the Phoenix Suns Now I will tell everybody this All of my trades that I brought today are two team trades We have three team trades but I thought it would be an interesting thought experiment to go what about two teamers all right so let’s start with the Miami Heat One of the teams that uh that is interested in Kevin Durant reportedly B Entertainment is asking for a shout out Shout out to B Entertainment The Suns get Andrew Wiggins Duncan Robinson Kel Wear the 20th pick in this year’s draft and a 2027 firstround pick from Miami The Heat get Kevin Durant Now this to me Stephen walks the line of still being competitive soft retool soft rebuild Andrew Wiggins is a player that can currently compete in the NBA I I don’t love him as a player but he proved when he was on Golden State that he could fit in on a winning team Kell Wear is one of the more coveted young prospects that I could see in the Kevin Durant trademark Fills a position of need for the Suns Honestly would be their starting center uh next year but can also play the power forward if you do invest in in center a little bit more heavily And and then Duncan Robinson is a expiring 20some million dollars that you could cut and pay half of his salary or you could move as another piece And then there’s two picks a 20th pick and then a 2027 first round pick Too much too little or is it Goldilocks just right for KD um I mean again if this is the trade that ultimately happens it’s not going to be because the Suns want it to happen It’s going to be because that’s where Kevin Durant ultimately decided that he wanted to go next for his uh next chapter in his career So you really don’t have too much say so unless again you loop in a third team But if you keep it one for one in terms of teams involved This is as good as it gets from Miami in particular if it is Durant choosing to go to this destination I mean I think a lot of people would like to see more in terms of player talent Um especially young talent Khlo Wear is a piece but you would probably want to see another piece in addition to him that’s of that same age range So in a different position potentially Yeah It’s funny you say that cuz I was talking to uh one of our other producers Damon who he is a Miami Heat fan A resident Heat fan Resident Heat fan And And I’m going to put it in again but I do believe that this deal works if instead of Duncan Robinson you do Kyle Anderson Haywood Highmith Kel Wear and uh Ple Larson And so you take Ple Larson who is a young prospect for them Let me make sure that that works You might need to cut somebody Let’s see here Nope That trade’s successful So you can do instead of Duncan Robinson you could do Andrew Wiggins Kyle Anderson Haywood Highmith Khloe Wear Pelle Larson and and and the picks also attached That might be better than than Duncan I like that trade more The thing the thing with Duncan Robinson is you can again you can cut him and only pay half of his salary or you can use him as a trade piece as well because he makes a lot and it’s a one-year deal Uh I just want to confir Kyle Anderson I believe is on a a expiring deal as well but he’s making 9 million so not as big of a of a trade ship Heywood Heismith also expiring contract making 5.6 Both of those are players that could play on the Suns this year So maybe that’s a a better a better package Wild Factor says take the second one Uh so I you know I that was a after I submitted the graphic thing but there there’s some room to to maneuver in in the Miami Heat area That’s the that’s the move that I would air on If Durant chooses Miami I would much rather get the younger pieces as well as defensive minded pieces and not just um not just Keller but also Hayward Heismith and being able to pair them also with Larson and to be able to integrate them around Booker I think that makes a ton more sense for the Suns Also obviously getting the picks is very relevant too considering the pieces that we’ve talked about them trying to trade up for if they can get to that 20-ish range Yeah Miami not flush with first round capital Uh they have the 20th pick in this year’s draft They’re they’re trading the 2027 first round pick Now that’s just a lottery pick It’s if it’s beyond the lottery Miami retains and the pick will go to the Suns later So if Miami is in the lottery in 2027 which you’re not sure with with KD they do have a 2029 2030 and 2031 unprotected first round pick they could also throw in there as well So some some maneuvering in there Eritton did you did you like that deal because I I feel like I’m I’m kind of torn It doesn’t feel like it’s enough for KD Yeah that’s the biggest hold up for me is that I just don’t feel like it’s enough for KD Where in the 20th pick is good at least Yeah I don’t know That’s tough Probably You mean like 20 to 29 wise he It’s literally the 20th pick in this year’s draft This draft is pretty deep too I don’t I really don’t hate that pick honestly I don’t know I I feel like with Kel Wear if there was if there was a reddraft of of last year’s draft is is he top five khal let’s let me let me He’s getting close to there He was a very very late bloomer this season So I I mean I think Ree Sache still goes in the top five I think Alex Sar still goes in the top five Stfan Castle goes number one Okay Reed Shepard I don’t think still goes top five Ron Hall in the second I think Khal Wear goes above Ron Hall in the second Tedwan Salon from the Hornets is six Donovan Klingan is seven Klingan was good Rob Dillingham was eight Edy was nine Cody Williams was 10 Modus Bazllis was 11 Mhm Kawwear was 15 I I think you could argue that Kel Wear would be a borderline top five pick And I think he would be your starting center Ashley who asked in the chat I I do believe that that he would be the starting center Um I think I think Devin Carter goes a little bit higher I think Tristan Dilva goes a little bit higher Dilva didn’t have the best rookie year I I think I’d take wear over over Dilva What about over Maselis modus Modus is probably top three Correct Modus is top three Sar’s top three And um Rach is probably top three Oh no Well okay That’s interesting Stfan Castle Okay we’re going too far down that line That’s what I’m saying Yeah I don’t know if he’s top five He’s top 10 for sure He’s close for a top five So we’re talking about adding a sophomore that would be a top 10 pick and was a top 15 16 pick in in a reddraft Uh I want to read a chat from Soul Finton who dropped a super chat then dropped a regular chat following up saying “Can I interest you guys uh on Tai Tai Jerome in a signin trade with the Cavs where we send either Allen or O’Neal i would say and this is with great respect to Ty Jerome who was arguably the six man of the year this past season If Peyton Pritchard isn’t playing on a team that was an all-time great in the regular season Ty Jerome probably wins it in most seasons That being said you have to have a razor sharp roster built around to get the most out of Ty Jerome especially defensively specifically on the defensive end He is not a player that ever lacks heart nor does he ever lack energy He just simply lacks the stature to hold hold up against the types of guards that he’s going to typically be guarding in roster constructs He’s probably guarding twos and threes more often than not He doesn’t have the typical frame to stand up defending in contact situations against those types Now he can get under people’s skin with his activity He’s very smart He thinks the game through preemptively but sometimes it just doesn’t matter if you got someone that’s hunting you Sure And if the rest of the pieces around you can’t insulate you well enough to where you’re just playing one-on-one all the time Now if you dropped 20 but you gave up 25 and your individual matchups whether it be the direct matchup or via switches where’s the impact that’s what he was so impactful with the Cavaliers with their team defensive scheme was so good and he was so good defending within that It also led to offense and him scoring a lot too I like Ty Jerome I I think Ty Jerome fits so much better on like you said it insulated team with an identity like the Cavs I think he fits in with a team that that has a good defense behind him where he can come in as a spark plug Also not sure the type of contract that he’s going to demand and I don’t know if I want to tie that up in in Tyome at this point for the Suns but I’m happy for Tai I’m I’m glad that that he’s been able to to carve a career after obviously you know not starting off too great with with the Suns Sean says “If only we had drafted Ty Jerome.” Yeah if only Oh one more thing real quick and this is on me Okay I did not mention Isaiah Kier when we were talking about players that would have moved up in the draft Well he moved up He wouldn’t be a top five pick He wouldn’t be top five but he would be top 10 and that shuffle that shuffle top 10 I like them I like this season a lot I like I like this season too I don’t know if I’m ready to go like like for sure top 10 when we didn’t even get We didn’t get to see Jared McCain play a full season And we get we didn’t get to see Devin Carter play Bub was still good as well Eve Missy might go top 10 in a reddraft as well Uh where does Ryan Dunn go in a reddraft probably top 15 So uh there’s there there’s a lot of movement from last year and then you you think about it as well Uh and you think okay well you know where the Suns are picking this year they could also get one of those guys that that rises Uh 15 minutes into the show we’re one trade down We have so many more trades to go We’re talking Minnesota Houston wildcard teams the Spurs We have a ton from all three of us Erton got involved on the trade action as well So make sure you stick around hit that like button hit that subscribe button and we’re going to keep this Trade Merced Thursday rocking right after our first break Some people in life you just can’t trust It’s the people who always back out of bets Maybe you’re betting very casually on who you think has the most points for the Sunset Night Maybe it’s a long-term bet Maybe it’s a fantasy football league You don’t trust the Venmo guy That’s why VI is here to save the day VI is a firstofits-kind person-toperson betting app where there’s finally an app where you can bet with anyone on anything at any time VI is proud to partner with PHNX to launch a brand new way to bet Now these wagers they can be for money or they can be free You can do a 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We’ve reddrafted the 2024 NBA draft So that was first up on the docket today Hit that like button We definitely could use some more some more likes in the chat for a for a trade machine Thursday Let’s go ahead and get to our next trade here All the two team trades well they’re from your boy So let’s go ahead and get to Minnesota one of the teams whose names have been swirling in the rumors recently Again I did all straightup trades We’ll get to three team trades later Kevin going to the Timberwolves in exchange The Suns receive Julius Randall Dante Devincenzo Mike Connley the 17th pick in this year’s draft and the 31st pick in this year’s draft Too high too low or just right Stephen um it’s it’s solid You know what I love in the chat i see a gross No no 100% No no Not bad but feels gross Yeah I feel like it’s more so more so what Lucas is saying because why Mike Connie talk me talk me the money it’s to get so that and that’s the thing with these that these two team deals and that’s why like I I I wanted to kind of go into the two team deals and usually people accuse me of being like the pie in the sky like unrealistic guy right and so I kind of wanted to I wanted to tamper that a little bit and say like what if the Suns don’t get like their their biggest pro their biggest goal right so I for me it was money I’ll go back and I’ll look to see if there’s a way to involve Dillingham But you get 1731 Randall Devenenzo in combination And that’s my thing If you’re not getting if you’re not getting Goar you’re not getting Den or not Denzo you’re not getting um Dillingham Goar or McDaniels It feels like it’s leaving a little bit too much to be desired Sure That’s my thing Also the Sun’s adding a what 35 36 year old point guard Yeah I think he has one year left on his on his deal You’re basically Yeah you’re taking it’s one year $10.7 million Um he doesn’t have the same impact in value for the Suns especially in their current construct than he does with the Timberwolves And I was That’s why I asked why Mike Connley in particular Uh for for me I believe to specifically get it it’s the money So let me just try this trade straight up Yeah that failed uh because the Timberwolves are taking back too much money in that that trade It would have to be Connley if this is the specific framework where you get Randall and Dvenenzo Now I think if you swap out Randall for Gobear it could be Gobear Devincenzo and Connley I think that is close to working I’m not 100% sure Uh but but there is a chance there I I think I think the return is okay I don’t love it I I don’t think that’s like the best peak return that you could get for Kevin Durant But you get Julius Randall who you might be able to reroute for another team or would help you win some games now even if he’s not great You get Dante Danchenzo who’s a shooter and then you get the 27th pick and the 31st or was it the 27th pick what pick was it it was the 17th pick and the 31st pick that you could package all three of those and maybe move to to top 12 For for context Go Bear Denenzo and Dillingham works That might be a better package there Yeah definitely So you could do you could do Go Bear Denzo Dillingham and then the 17th and the 31st pick in the draft Now that’s that’s one that I would I would be much more inclined to being in on Okay now this next trade this is a wild card team This is the Clippers I love this trade I love this trade This is honestly this is maybe the biggest like son’s still trying to win now trade The Clippers receive Kevin Durant The Suns get Ivinga Zubac I always pronounce his name but it’s okay Derrick Jones Jr Bdon Bogdanovich the 30th pick in this year’s draft and the 51st pick in this year’s draft So not crazy draft capital but I think Derrick Jones Jr as a modern wing fits beautifully alongside Devin Booker I think he could play alongside Ryan Dunn and wreak some havoc defensively as well Can play that small ball four Zubots is like the best maybe the best individual player the Suns could get back for Kevin Durant minus if if Trey Young is possibly routed but certainly the best player to fit possible as well You do get another semi firstround pick It’s it’s the 31st pick It’s the 30th pick So it is the end of the first round pick and then you get the 51st pick So you get two picks right near your current pick that you can again package together trade those whatever uh and this year’s draft and get a better prospect I don’t love Bogdan Bogdanovich That is just for the the money to work But I I love the top two pieces in Zubat and Derrick Jones Jr Yeah Um I’ll start with Derek Jones Jr I feel like Zubot is a little bit more obvious from people that have been kind of watching the league past just the Suns Derrick Jones Jr do it all type of uh Swiss Army knife guy that helps teams simply win You need him to play point of attack he can do that You need him to switch and guard fives sure he can do that Especially in reserve units you need him to knock down corner threes knock down wing threes at a at a moderate to above average clip he can do that No problem Need him to play short roll screen for your for your best player to get a a more advantageous matchup on he can do that Play short roll he can do that He literally does everything And he’s healthy for the most part too So he’s a player you can rely on that has it with positional size and versatility that really just insulates everything you want to do for your team Yeah Montana with Zubots with Deon Booker Now you’re really working with something I mean that would be just such a I I think I think Zubots and and Book as a as a pick and roll combo and and Derrick Jones Jr on the wing even Ryan Dunn as well Uh somebody in the chat live from 765 says that Derrick Jones Jr brings nothing offensively Scored 10 points per game last season Shot 35% from three 70% from the line 52% overall field goal percentage He he can grab you some rebounds as well play small ball four I I I think he’s one of those players that Jones is ass Saul says Dererick Jones Jr is ass Uh Dererick Jones Jr is not ass Plus he has a great nickname Uh airplane mode Yeah And he would bring some much needed athleticism to a Suns team that severely lacked it Also hashtag dunks because the Suns just quite literally didn’t have much of any of it last season Yeah I think if I remember off the top of my head KD might have led the team in dunks last season No I I think that’s true which is who else would it have been nobody If Ryan Dunn played more maybe Yeah But yeah I Derek Derek Jones Jr is one of those players when you when you look at what the Suns want to be next season I think he can fit into all of that really well Um I don’t think that he’s asked He again scored 10 points per game on a playoff team this year He would actually I think be a pretty he’d be a pretty big reason why I would do this trade Having a wing of Derrick Jones Jr.’s archetype They can play with Ryan Dunn and not overlap with the ways that Dunn is used offensively but also be able to play off of Dunn defensively in certain in certain lineups And if they can both hit threes Yeah Yeah That’s what you that’s what you’re working with And again we still haven’t seen Ryan Dunn in relevant games If this is a move that puts you in relevant um standing amongst the West if Dunn doesn’t pan out early on because it’s his first goound in those type of scenarios you know that you can rely on Derrick Jones Jr Yeah Andre says “Might have to stagger with Dunn unless his three gets better.” Absolutely But then you’re looking at two good point of attack wing defenders Uh you know and Dererick Jones Jr might be a great mentor for him as somebody who had no offensive game That’s what I’ll give I I do want to say Ay Soldier says “Why not Powell and Zubots?” I avoided Norman Powell for a couple of reasons I I think he’s fun I think he’s a fun player Not a good fit for this team especially if they keep Bradley Beal You just It’s It’s not a good fit Mhm He’s not an incredible defensive player He needs the ball in his hand a lot to score He’s a microwave but he’s he’s just another shooting guard I don’t I would much rather have Derrick Jones Jr and Bogdanovich than just Pal Uh and Pal with the money it’s harder to line up as well Bogdanovich maybe you could reroute to another team but I mean a lineup potentially Stephen if I don’t want Bradley be able to be in the starting lineup but Book at the one Be the two Dunn at the three Derek Jones Jr at the four Zubots at the five Mhm It’s a lot of versatility that um Jordan it’s a lot that Jordan was speaking to wanting from his uh from his main rotation of players He has a lot of that lot of those inner dynamics and the way that those pieces fit together within that fiveman group alone Now would the Clippers do this i’m not as inclined to say no as I maybe would have at the start of the playoffs I just don’t Dude Zubat is so good Yes And you’re not like replacing him positionally as well Like you do you want to trade the youngest best player on your team for somebody who is on an older timeline than James Harden and Kawhi Leonard who are already the two old guys on your team relevant questions I’m just not sure if they say no as quickly as I maybe thought they would Maybe they have a back pocket plan to get something else potentially Another center another center in some in some maybe some two or three team trade that might be coming up soon Zubots is a borderline all NBA guy this year For sure He was a top five center by for my money this past I I I definitely think I think if you get a top five center for Kevin Durant plus a wing piece that can play and two picks in this year’s draft that you can either use or package and move on which is looked at as salary filler for the Clippers if they’re getting Kevin Durant Yeah Like you can do a whole lot worse than that if you’re Yeah I I like that Zubach is the best Zubach is the best center that the Suns could potentially get in the Kevin Durant trade and that’s that potential might be a whole lot lower than other names but he’s the best traditional center his main stay position where he gets a majority of his minutes from Zoo is that dude I don’t disagree I think if they were able to get Zoo that’s a massive win I I think that that makes Devin Booker’s prime or at least the next couple of years of it you you’ve got a core that you can now build around I mean it’s the best center he played with by And I’m not even trying to disrespect Aton I think that even a little bit And I was talking with Damon actually about this but you know Aton for what he was in that 2021 run and when he brought his strengths is clearly the best center that Deon Booker’s ever played with There not even a question about it This version of Zoo would be better Yeah he’s everything that Aiden was in the 2021 playoffs and that stretch in particular and in the 2022 first round against the Pelicans everything that Aiden was in those two stretches Zubach is at his average So and a player that’s gonna punch up because of the attention Devin Booker gets Oh could you imagine the You want to double team Deon Booker we’ll play four on three all game and not have a a not a snag in our process at all on offense No especially if you’ve got a shooter out there as well And and think about think about how Deon Booker could operate with Zoo’s screens Exactly Like Zoo would be the best screen setter he’s probably ever played with The top five screening big in the league Baby minus Aaron Baines Aaron Baines set some hell of a hell of a pick Baines did set some great screens God I I miss Aaron Baines fan club All right I have two more trades both from Texas teams Houston and San Antonio We’ve got trades from you involving the Nets the Spurs and the Rockets as well And then we have Eritton’s trades Eritton got a little crazy on the trade machine plus some frosty takes as well We’re going to get to all of 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is giving you $200 when you open up a free checking account online Get $200 in bonuses Get started by visiting desertfinanicial.com/200 What is up a soldier 520 Andy generational hater David Sean Plume Ashley I am Josh Douglas this ain’t Mike Tim Brent Sky Falcons Yako I mean the stars are aligned here on a trade machine Thursday edition of PHNX suns nearly 300 of you in here on a Thursday afternoon How special is that you psychos and sickos hit that like button Hit that subscribe button as well Five star reviews on audio as well All of those are great We have a fake Eric Ruby mention in the chat but I do not see fake Eric Ruby here God thought there’d be some more commitment from the bit What’s up Miss Nisha your cousin reminding everybody to like the video And Carlos who says what’s up as well All right let’s just let’s not bury the lead Let’s just keep getting in here Stephen Let’s go Let’s do it All right another trade from your boy Another two-teamer Again all mine are two teamers one the Houston Rockets our old friends Let’s dance again The Rockets get Kevin Durant The Suns again this is me trying to kind of play the middle here and and then find a balance of what Katie’s value would be not what I want They get Jaylen Green gross Jabari Smith not gross Tar Een not gross And the 10th pick in the draft Stephen I don’t love getting a shooting guard back but I love everything else coming back from Houston Is this a return that you could live with uh Jaylen Green is tough but everything else is very much what you would be looking for in that deal For sure Now we have a Rockets fan in the chat Generational hater says “As a Rockets fan hell no.” Really really tell me what generational hater tell me what you think is a is a fair package for both sides for KD But anyway back to this trade You can maybe look to get off of of Jaylen Green Again I just did two team trades just to kind of experiment here But number 10 Jabari and Tari Mhm If you don’t get anything else for Jaylen Green is that in a vacuum enough it is because you have two players that will be under roster control that you can extend going forward And Green or Green excuse me and Jabari and Tari And then you also obviously get your pick back or at least one of your two picks back from Houston to which you could use or you could package with something else or just flat out trade with someone else if you find some pieces that you want to get out of the draft that may be available a little bit later I know there’s two teams that will be calling around to try to see what they can get for that number 10 pick for sure So yeah I’m um I’m I’m content with this trade I’m content with it Yeah under the under the impression that Jaylen is likely going to be rerouted elsewhere just because the the overlap with Booker Although he checks off the rim pressure box the usage and the need to have the ball in his hands to be his best self especially while Bill is still at that moment on the contract on the books He hasn’t been moved yet That’s that’s a tough one to hit I don’t know where Rockets fans get off on thinking that you’re going to get Kevin Durant without partying with Jabari Smith and Tar Een Yeah I I don’t listen They started off talking about it was going to be Fred and and Dylan Brooks and No And then number 10 No Like seriously if if if it was Kevin Durant forc his way to Houston and there’s not four to six other teams interested in him and and he sucked then sure maybe we could talk about that He doesn’t suck He He He’d be the best player on your team Kevin you would be trading You would be trading two guys three guys with Jaylen Green that are not the best player on your team by far for the best player on your team Now the number 10 pick might be where they come in and say “You’re not getting all three of those.” I would say to me that that’s non-negotiable George Young who’s a Rockets fan says “Be for real man.” George I I want your opinion too I welcome Rockets fans opinions I want to see your perspective Generational hater follows up Says “Let me start with KD My favorite player to never play for my team 11th all time in true shooting percentage Truly unguardable It was him who beat us in 2018 on Steph.” Oh we’re getting like a whole paragraph No it was it was it was it was Chris Paul’s hamstring And I say that in respect to my favorite player of all time If he doesn’t get hurt and he was the best player in that series up until that point especially in crunch time they go on to beat the Cavaliers in the finals and history looks completely different after that Okay if okay so let let’s let’s maybe rearrange Thursday for you let’s maybe rearrange some and this again this is going to be a long edition of phons get used to it uh that’s threatening is George youngest says I see Jabari in there but not both okay so walk with me then here okay because you also need salaries to line up as well and you’re not just going to get Katie so let’s say that you Jabari is in the deal okay that’s 12 of the 54 4 million you need You probably going to have to throw Jaylen Green in there right because he’s 33 million Okay You are still $9 million short So Reed Shepard is too much You can’t throw in Reed You’re not giving me Amen Thompson I know that Jock Landale I don’t believe makes enough money Let’s see here He might make enough money He does Okay Jaylen Green Jabari Smith Jr Jock Landale and the 10th pick is probably the only other realistic like combination of options there I don’t think the Suns do that I don’t think the Suns do that Uh Dylan like I I don’t think that there’s a way to do Dylan Brooks in there And maybe you do And again live live trade machine Dylan Brooks Javari Smith and Reed Shepard Maybe No Still doesn’t work Yeah No This is it’s it’s got to be that deal It’s got to be the the the two forwards as well So especially if it’s only it’s if it’s a one in one It’s just a one in one dance There’s no way you’re you’re ducking giving up not giving up Jabari and Tari and that 10 Listen I I get it You like your players man I do This is Kevin Durant You don’t you don’t you got to get something you don’t have You got to give up things that you don’t want And that’s literally the only way that that works Y’all talking about not giving up Jabari and Tari The Suns gave up male Cam Johnson Jay Crowder five first round picks and five second round picks Now I understand that KD’s older and this is a different situation You’re giving up one first round pick Jabari Smith and Tari E which you can call your Michael Cam They’re also not as good as those two players at the time And Jaylen Green who I think is a negative asset I don’t like him and I think he’s a bad contract So I I I just I don’t see why y’all would be so against that But um I I you guys be trading for the for the best Yeah I know Katie was three years younger and you’re giving up one first round pick like instead of five in five seconds right like this is the difference here and you’re not giving up as good players as well I’m just saying takes money to make money Uh Leo has a $20 super chat big time Leo Thank you so much Appreciate you You want to read that from Leo Stephen uh yeah for sure Uh Pelicans get Deon Vel a first from Denver or two first Yeah two first from Denver and the Spurs um the Spurs one second from Denver Nuggets get Trey Murphy the third Harrison Barnes Jose Alvarado the Spurs get Kevin Durant the Suns get Michael Porter Jr Jeremy Sohan Peyton Watson Don Holmes and the 14th pick from the Spurs So the Pelicans are getting Vel for Trey Murphy Straight up for Trey Murphy and Alvarado Mhm Straight up Okay I don’t think they do that Yeah Trey Murphy is a way better pro in my opinion a way better prospect than Vel but maybe positionally they they’d be interested in that right i don’t think so but maybe Denver gets M Denver gets who trey Murphy Harrison Barnes and Alvarado for Michael Porter Jr two first round picks and a second round pick Payton Watson And Pton Watson I think that Denver does that uh for for Trey Murphy For Trey Murphy I think that does that Yeah for sure Suns get Michael Porter Jr Sohan Watson Don Holmes and the 14th pick for Kevin Durant Yep Spurs get Katie They give up the 14th pick A second No they just give up the 14th pick Mhm And Vel So so the Spurs are Oh the 14th Vel and Jimmy Sohan Yep So Sohan Facel and 14 and Harrison Barnes for for KD Interesting I I think out of all the teams that say no I think New Orleans says no the most I I agree with that for sure Yeah because it sounds like it sounds like the Pelicans are trying to get off of Zion in some respects or get higher pick compensation more than anything Yeah it works I mean Leo says it works and I I trust you Leo It’s interesting Uh Ted Offensive says “Does anyone like Sohan?” I love Jeremy Sohan Well I got a trade for you I’ll go ahead and say it I feel like people are thinking about shooting entirely too much for a player that brings things in a non-shooting context to a team that would not be looking for a player that’s looking to jack up more shots and hijack the offense or take away things from Devin Booker and a player that’s malleable that can play next to Devin Booker screen for him do things on the short roll flip mismatches for for Deon Booker grab offensive rebounds they will simply do all of the blueco collar efforts for 35 36 38 minutes a game and never bat a eye about not getting shots But when he does get the ball in in scenarios where he can’t finish shooting 70% at the rim it can give you 11 points a game on five rebounds and four assists and not turn the ball over while also locking down while also locking down multiple of the best the best offensive talents in the league in isolation or switching on to a big and being able to shut his water off For a team that didn’t have defense last season I don’t know why Suns fans are acting like they don’t want someone that can be a almost all NBA caliber defender especially if he has the right coach that puts him in the system and has a center next to him that can protect the rim so he can do all of the versatile stuff that he does on the defensive end And then he’s also going to be a burst of energy for you in transition as well What are we talking about right now it can’t be so mesmerized by highlights dog because the defensive end of the floor is where each of the two teams that just got to the finals this past year against multiple odds got to that point OKC didn’t be different until they started playing more defense and aligning with their identity Indiana wasn’t even a playoff team at earlier points in the season until they locked back in on defense and then they became the team that had the second most wins since the All-Star breaking since the turn of the calendar Why because they got back in alignment with defense They got to where they were last season because of defense They lost the plot got back to the plot added down on top of that and now look at where they’re at in the finals and they’re up 2-1 against a team that has all their favorites stacked against or stacked against them What are we talking about right now i mean what are we talking about right now i don’t think I’ve seen you this passionate since because I’ve seen so many people keep focusing on the offensive side and yes the offense matters Hey he was hitting jumpers in an open gym recently What are we talking about right now dude i don’t think I’ve ever seen you get that fired up No cuz we’ve seen so much offensive Jeremy Sand can’t shoot he can’t do this that and the third But what about what he can do and how effective that would be around Devin Booker everybody wants a 67 68 wing that could be a a demon on defense That’s literally what he is Well dude I mean I I think I might have found your favorite trade Now I have a Spurs trade here and this will be the the last trade we do before we hit a break And Stephen we’ve done a lot of trades with the Spurs Mhm There is one name we have not included in any Spurs trade Mhm And it’s one that I think to myself huh depending on what direction the Spurs really want to go in Mhm Maybe they do this The Spurs receive Kevin Durant The Suns receive De’arren Fox Jeremy Sohan and the 14th pick in this draft The Spurs keep the two pick The Spurs keep Stfan Castle The Spurs keep Vel Kell Johnson Harrison Barnes Victor Webeyama and add Kevin Durant What do you think do you think that that they would maybe move on from Darren who has not got a contract extension from them by the way mhm And I think you put you put Fox Book Sohan and hopefully you draft a center but Nick Richards Ryan Dunn I I don’t know if Sohan and Dunn can play together but I mean you’ve got your back court I still feel like they need to add one more of the young pieces You don’t think you think you think that’s not enough from San Antonio because you’re getting De’arren Fox Like you’re getting Devin Booker’s next running mate Are you not i still think you need one more That’s interesting I think a lot of people are like Mario saying Spurs hang up Uh Andre saying Spurs Oh did I find a banger this is how you know you found a banger when zero people agree on it Wow factor says it’s not enough Oh man Tim says Fox and Booker aren’t good enough shooters to play together Disagree with that Um wow I’m I’m shocked with how I thought everybody was going to tell me that I was stupid for saying the Spurs would trade Dear and Fox but people are telling me I’m stupid that the Suns don’t get enough back in this Yeah I don’t I I don’t agree with that I feel like they got to add one more piece in like Okay so like who probably one of Velo or Johnson Oh I don’t know if the money works then That’s why you need a 13 I don’t I don’t know dude That’s why you need a 13 I don’t know I I think that’s I think that’s kind of good for both sides Yeah And I know I know the Spurs are traded for Fox but that’s what I got the second pick I will say I just don’t think they do it Teddy says ain’t no way Rich Paul would let that happen That is true Rich Rich Paul would absolutely step in especially considering this was literally the team that Fox told everybody else he wouldn’t sign an extension with if he got traded elsewhere cuz Houston was very much interested Miami was interested A couple other teams were interested He basically told Rich Paul to let them know I only want to go to Houston or I only want to go to Texas Everybody thought Houston I definitely thought Houston And he’s like nah I’m talking about the Spurs actually And look at where he ended up You know what’s crazy dude is you never know what to what to suspect from people I thought I was going to get killed for saying the Spurs are trade them and everybody’s just saying “No the Suns aren’t getting enough.” I mean that is that’s honestly flooring to me Keep on sounding off in the comments below Do you think that that’s enough not 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we’ve got some more trades to get through first Stephen let’s bring your first trade to the table for sure So we got a three-team deal We got the Suns the Spurs and the Brooklyn Nets The Suns will be getting back Cam Johnson Nick Claxton Jeremy Sohan as well as the 2025 first round pick number 19 from the Nets The Spurs will be getting Kevin Durant Noah Clowny and the number eight pick from the Nets That number eight pick will be a swap with Brooklyn as Brooklyn gets the number two from the San Antonio Spurs Something that they’re desperately coveting because they very much value Dylan Harper Jr Um and also they’ll be getting Devin Vel Harrison Barnes on an expiring and Kell Johnson Uh for the Suns we are talking defensive versatility You say you want bigs that can do a lot of things How about Nick Claxton and Jeremy Sohan have fun with that You want to build out a defensive process that’s aggressive and versatile As far as what you could get back in return for a deal that you have on your table there’s not much else you could do that would be much better than that in particular I’m starting there before getting anything else I think it’s really I and I know you’re starting there I think it’s really interesting that the Spurs walk away with the eighth pick and Kevin Durant So okay So they’re giving up the two and for context they’re giving up the two because they’re looking to get Khan Canipple The Spurs are obviously you don’t want to get Canipple at two right so the Spurs could very much say “Okay we’ll take eight but can we get another one of your late round picks in the 20s?” Which I’m sure I’m sure Brooklyn would oblige if they can get Dylan Harper Jr who they’re valuing more than anything else at this per moment in time I mean so rude from Lucas in the chat Mhm No surprise SPG gives the better trade F you man What the hell let’s put that trade back up on the screen just to just to break that down here real quick Uh I do like what the Suns get back Johnson Claxton Sohan 19 I think that’s good Spurs still keeping a top 10 pick and getting Durant Good Nets getting the two pick Vel Barnes and Kell Johnson for a excuse me eight Cam Johnson and Nick Claxton And 19 right and 19 Yep I I think this kind of works for all sides I can see San Antonio saying “Okay if we giving y’all two we need eight and we need one of those those um number 20 round pick or number 20 late late first round picks maybe which is I’m not mad at at all I wouldn’t in fact if I was San Antonio I would definitely be asking for that That puts San Antonio in a position to get Kevin Durant but also if they want to go and get another top level piece they could very much attach one of the picks that they get from Brooklyn in addition to a Stefon Castle and make some things happen They have they still have flexibility and they also have plenty of cap space because I think that this move puts them at like seven or six guys on their roster going into the offseason So that’s at the draft A lot of options on the table for them Teddy says with the 499 super chat thanks Teddy says “Would y’all be okay if they traded Dunn with KD if it meant you get better deal a better deal more picks or better players?” Uh it would take a lot It would take a lot for me to part with Dunn I’m not going to say he’s untouchable but it would take a lot Uh if you’re able to even make that trade that means that you did something with Bradley Bill prior to It’s true So in that situation I want to see what it is they’re working towards if that trade is the template that they’re using But I wouldn’t I wouldn’t be mad at it I I would be mad I’d rather them keep Dun but I wouldn’t be mad at it I would be mad if they traded Dunn for anything that doesn’t I don’t know I just think I just think he’s one of those guys that especially for the vibes you just you keep him around unless there’s just some crazy crazy crazy value that you get from him You’re more inclined to include Igodaro than Dunn Oh yeah And I like Oso but there is some very clear deficiencies with with Oso I I think with Dunn the the the the weakness is obviously the jump shot but he proved at points that he could be better at that Stephen everybody likes your trade How does it feel i mean it’s cool I’m not in it to be liked I’m in it cuz I want the Suns Crazy You’re not in it to be liked and they all love you I’m in it to be liked and they all hate me So it’s kind of a weird dichotomy and balance here No I’m just kidding I don’t care what any of you think about me I’m just kidding That’s a lie I need you all to like me Uh generational hater says that I need a rehab At least you fit the name At least you fit the name I I like it Oh I didn’t I didn’t even say nothing about Cam Johnson Yeah Cam Johnson would be nice We know about Cam Johnson Yeah very nice basketball player who’s very who’s plenty better than he was when he left the Suns at this point Much stronger was a little bit more healthy this past season can do a little bit more defensively Fits next to Claxton as a four but also obviously could play the three Plays complimentary to Devin Booker in multiple respects That’s it People in the chat are taking seriously Don’t take me Don’t take me ser Don’t take me seriously guys Do not take me seriously Especially some of the new people in chat here Do not take me seriously Okay You have another trade Stephen Uh a similar return but some some different teams here So the template is very clear in terms of the return for the Suns Two of the well one of the teams involved here Obviously two if you’re including the Suns Just a different team in Texas Let’s look at the Houston Rockets You see the template for what the Suns are getting in Claxton and Johnson We don’t need to rehash that They would be getting Tari Een in this who I think fits very well defensively in ways different from the ways that Sohan would fit with the Suns but would still provide a similar impact A little bit more perimeter oriented than front court oriented but do you think that those three would be a really good front court next to Book Tam and Claxton they could all play together too 1,000% Yep Gives you all the versatility you want on offense and defense In addition to that also gives you blue collar guys three through five All three of them Um Houston gets obviously Kevin Durant Noah Clowny Dariq Whitehead as well as the number 52 pick from the Suns So it’ll be a second round swap that the Suns are getting into with the Rockets here And then Brooklyn will be getting Jaylen Green Jabari Smith Jr Reed Shepard Jo Landel and the number 10 pick I mentioned them wanting to punch up to get into the number 10 That’s exactly what will be going on here You know I like it No nobody is is giving up a top five pick obviously because you you don’t have it Yeah Uh the the Nets have two top 10 picks then at at eight and at 10 The Rockets are are getting KD for Tari E I guess you’re giving up you know you’re giving up Jabari as well which I know they don’t they don’t love That might be a little too much value going out from from Houston’s end This is a caveat I wanted to get to I hope you brought it up So looming with the Rockets they pushed back the deadline for the extension talks with um Fred Van Vleet Obviously if you get Kevin Durant and you’re trading away Jaylen Green you want to keep Fred Van Vleet around you now have put yourself in a position capw-wise to where you can extend Fred Van Vleet still have a little bit of extra money left over to do what you need to as far as transactions to fill out the rest of your main rotation and it gives you a little bit more roster flexibility there So the Rockets clean their books They get the player that they’re targeting most in terms of the best player on the market that’s available that’s not a free agent And they also put themselves in a position to extend Fred Van Vleet who was the spearheader of the identity that you chose to go forward with I think it’s interesting I I don’t think that Houston would want to part with that much but you got to match the salaries at certain point though That’s the thing Yeah you got to match salaries but you still you keep And in addition to that so your starting lineup going into next season is Fred Vanble Amen Thompson Dylan Brooks Kevin Durant and you got big fella big Alp Yeah I I mean that’s still you’re looking for rotation people You still have Cam Whitmore who who will be your super that desperate to make the step now I’m not saying that they can’t in theory be maybe a better team if they they do that You are sacrificing a lot of your future A lot of it But I I do wonder if at the end of the day if the price gets too high Houston just looks at everything and just goes “We can wait a year and see who’s on the market next year right we can wait a year to see the next team Kevin Durant wants to go to It’s not going to hit the same when you ain’t got number 10 though It’s true No it’s it’s true 10 But you will have drafted 10 and so then you have that and maybe you hit on 10 and maybe that changes things as well for Houston I I think if if George says if we give up all that why not go for Giannis i just don’t I don’t think Giannis is on the market He’s not he’s not available I don’t think he’s I don’t think he’s available Calls for him right now Well we have four That’s right four more trades If you are new around here we do so much coverage We have a ton of fun as well Make sure you hit that subscribe button Hit that like button at the very least as well to help us out if you’re listening on audio Fivestar reviews if you’re watching on TV though The party always continues over at gophnx.com Which means it’s time for overtime of course Shout out to overtime And the best way to kick off overtime or tip off overtime is with the first ever edition not of Frosty Takes but of Aritin bringing trades That’s right baby We’re doing some producer trades Eritton you were cooking up in the lab late at night while the KD rumors were swirling What was the first trade that you came up with so my first trade is with the Miami Heat and it is a three-team trade It is the Suns receiving Andrew Wiggins Lonzo Ball Jaylen Smith Kel Wear Pelle Larson and the number 20th pick this year The Heat receive Kevin Durant The Bulls receive Duncan Robinson and a 2026 second from the Suns So my idea was this with this is the Bulls are giving up Lonzo Ball and Jaylen Smith for a salary dump in Duncan Robinson and just a throw in second round pick Um I’m interested to hear what you guys have to say about this Uh I do I do love somebody said in the chat earlier every single trade has a former Phoenix Sun Uh spr there is a lot of them Um Suns Suns getting Andrew Wiggins and Lonzo Ball Those are going to be two starters next year for you Kell Wear also possibly a starter Jaylen Smith and Pelle Larson you don’t know if they’re going to get a lot of burn maybe off the bench in the 20th pick You’re getting three starters for KD in theory one of those being on on a much younger trajectory at a pretty important position The Heat getting Kevin Durant Uh I I you know I talked to a Heat fan I I mentioned Damon earlier He said he would trade KL Wear for Kevin Durant by the way And then the Bulls would have to do some bull thing Bulls things but basically to either cut Duncan Robinson and pay half of his salary and get a second round pick Stephen where do you see the the [ __ ] in the armor here with with this trade i wonder I just genuinely don’t know what the Bulls are doing if I’m being honest Amen to that You can clip that and make that ever evergreen I’m genuinely not sure what they have going on right now What direction they’re trying to go Are they trying to be a playin team are they trying to ascend to the playoffs are they trying to duck the playin and just be out of everything for a season and get their ducks in a row in some capacity i just genuinely don’t know And because of that I’m not even sure they they do this this deal if I’m being honest I think they’re the team most hesitant It seems like they’re willing to part ways with Lonzo because they were actually able to get him healthy on the court this past season when he was there he showed to be that same player if not a little bit better than he was before he exited the rotation I just don’t know I I think I think you’re going to have to find a way to convince the Bulls Maybe they get a protected future first Maybe a couple more future seconds I don’t think they’re going to part with Lonzo for for practically nothing Uh but if if you can get them that’d be great I am Josh Douglas says Bulls still have Dumu White and Giddy So they you’re right like they do have a a backcourt of the future about Kobe White for sure right now but I don’t think I don’t think they trade Kobe White I think I don’t think so I think you get a lot of value from him I think they keep Kobe White I mean they got to they got to give Giddy a new contract So I just don’t see them I would keep Kobe White over Giddy I mean but you’re not the Bulls unfortunately No I’m not That’s so No I’m not That that that context is as important as any player that we’re speaking to in all of this Arrington Cook with this though This is a good exercise Let’s Let’s keep it rolling Arrington next trade All right My next one is Suns receiving Jordan Pool Jabari Smith Jr Jock Landale the number 10 pick this year from the Rockets a 2027 first round pick from the Rockets a 28 first round pick from the Rockets and a 26 second from Washington The Rockets are receiving obviously Kevin Durant And then the Wizards are getting Jaylen Green from the Rockets a 2025 second round pick number 52 from the Suns and then finally a second round pick from Houston Chat likes this one I I would say I’m going to go back on Houston’s end and say are they giving up too much draft value here from their perspective now you’re not giving up Tari E but you are giving up two extra first round picks in and 27 28 plus the 10 pick as well But George Young who’s a Rockets fan says this ain’t bad Uh what do you feel about this trade Stephen suns get P Smith Jr Landale a couple first round picks in a second Rockets get Katie Wizards take a shot on Jaylen Green in some seconds I think this is probably if I had to give it a title this is the we now have opportunity to get off of Bradley Bill in ways that we did not have prior to this trade happening while also getting a player like Jordan P who’s a combo guard for sure He’s not specifically a one but he’s also not specifically a two Um he’s probably in his best role as a six-man a super sub in some capacity Um you obviously get Jabari Smith Jr but I continue to go back to the picks The 27 first round pick 28 first round pick 26 second round pick You probably use two of those three to get off of Bill and put your books in a much better position I’m not using both of those I can’t That’s where I’m at I can’t do it I can’t do it I hear you I can’t I can’t do two I can’t do two first round picks to get rid of Bradley Beal I can’t I’m imagining one of those two in the second though Not both first to be I’m imagining one first and one second future in 27 and 28 as well as Beal You get the number 10 this season and you get to do whatever you want with that Whether you use it or you move it to everybody in chat saying you’re you’re putting those picks with Beal You’re going to like it Everybody’s bullying Group group bullying dude Everybody you know group bullying We we’ve created a great community Bring it on Bring it on man You know I love it when when fans of other teams come in here and just immediately start talking crap like like running on the treadmill just on it Bring it Come on I like it Yep For sure Oh I like it a lot I I like draft picks for the Suns too I mean you’re you’re you’re kind of with Jordan Pool you’re like I look listen I’ll I’ll eat the I’ll eat the Jordan Pool the pool party bullet if that means that you get to duck the first apron by getting off of Durant and ultimately with some of those picks like we talked about you get off of Bill Now you put yourself in a position where everything is under your control you have that restart restart button that you’re looking for but you’re not doing it at the detriment of your team success going forward because you have the 10 as well as Jabari Smith Jr to go with Dooker Farra says at this point why not hold the picks eat contract for a couple years and reset that’s that’s my thing If you’re going to go full reset with a trade for KD are you just going to immediately then step on that reset to get rid of Beal and still not be competitive you got to get out of Capilloo Yeah Yeah You But you you trade and I listen I don’t like Bradley Beal on this team Like I’ve been very clear with that But what you trade Bradley Beal and now two future first round picks to get rid of him and then you have your core of Jordan Pool Devin Booker and no picks now cuz you sent them all with Beal and and and what yeah you’re out of Capell but you’re not doing crap with that roster You have you have the 10 for this season for one for two with me You’re because of Bill’s contract being as big as it is if someone’s willing to absorb it to get one of those picks that you’re using with him you have to get talent in return to match that contract Yeah So you’re building out your roster is what I’m getting at because something you’re getting a of value from Bill All right let’s keep it rolling here Another trade second to last one Arrington Second to last trade We got the Suns getting hashtag aligned with Draymond Green and then Dante Devincenzo They’re also getting Buddy Heield Rob Dillingham number 17 this year number 41 this year and a future 2026 first from Minnesota Timberwolves getting Kevin Durant And then the Warriors are getting Rudy Goar number 52 this year from the Suns and a future second from Minnesota Eric you’re getting a wide reaction from your trades And this one is is when people are saying gross Sun’s getting Draymond That is hashtag aligned uh Draymond some shooting and then some young guys Stephen Rob the 17th pick and the 41st pick in this year’s draft and then a future first round pick So some young some old for Katie Now my my thing for this one Stephen and and let me know if you agree is why would the Warriors do this i guess Go’s technically younger but I I don’t think they trade Draymond for Rudy Gobear Yeah that’s I think that’s where that’s where the line is for me on that Um they are going they’re yelling at you in the chat This is perfect It gets It’s provocative It gets the people going here too Oh man Um I will say while we’re on the topic though I think the Warriors go and get Chris Porzingius They got good They have good doctors in San Francisco They can figure out whatever the hell’s going on with him to add to having Jimmy and and Draymond with Steph extending Steph’s prime extending that window of contending um viability that they want I think they go for someone more like the Porzingis route Maybe settle on Avous if nothing else pans out but you see the archetype of center that we’re speaking to a little bit more offensively three-point shooting inclined in particular than the go bear route Eric let’s get to your next one before they keep getting mad at you in chat Yeah Let’s see how upset this gets Chat last one San Antonio This next one’s not as bad This next one’s not as bad That was your That was your most provocative one for sure Ariton for sure Well Rudy Goar and Draymond Green in the same trade Of course that’s I I’d be glued right after our emergency pod to the emergency the Draymond Green show uh podcast All right My final trade is the Suns getting point guard Colin Ston They are also getting Kellen Johnson Jeremy Sohan and the 14th pick Spurs obviously getting Kevin Durant Jazz are getting Harrison Barnes a first round pick swap in 26 from San Antonio and a 2026 second also from San Antonio If we dealing I mean we excuse me if the Suns are dealing with Utah they better be getting one of those two bigs back One of those two starting bigs back Be Kesler or Lowry I don’t Yeah this one this one is not This one is I This is bad I think it’s not enough value for KD Yeah that’s my that’s my only reason why I brought that I don’t hate it But this is not a bad framework though Put it back up on the screen there for everybody to see there I Ston I think I think fits but I don’t think that he’s like really helping you a ton Uh Kellen Johnson fits same way I think Soan is maybe the best piece there Plus 14 Yeah I I don’t hate it I I would say I liked your I liked your Suns get the smorgesborg of players uh in Kel Wear Lonzo Wiggins I like that one the most Then I would do the Suns get Jordan Pool Jabari Smith and a bunch of picks second Then third I would do the Suns get Draymond in picks and I put this one fourth But I I don’t I just wonder I wonder like I think Utah does want to get off of Sexton to make room for their younger guards to give them more minutes give them more usage expedite their development I wonder if they want more in return though because they’re taking that Yeah Not for Sexton but for taking on Harrison Barnes Well yeah I mean you’re taking on Harrison Barnes but you’re not competing and you’re getting a first round pick which you know Danny A hasn’t hard on already just hearing about that And and a second round pick I I wonder if if you’re the Suns out of this if you can get some more future draft capital out of San Antonio I think you had some future first round picks in there and and I’m more on board with this than than I would before But I I think the way that it currently stands uh yes I think Zeke puts it well in the chat Says “Is it realistic uh but not great value for us.” George asks “Is Kell Johnson nice like that?” He’s a nice piece I would not say he’s nice like that not the type of guy that you expected when he was playing for Team USA when he was super young He He’s definitely um he’s plateaued a little bit but a change of scenery might do him a solid bit of Yeah it might for sure He’s a player for sure Yeah Okay those are all the trades we had today Any final thoughts on a on a a spicy edition of Trade Machine Thursday here on PHX Suns i will continue to to say and this is not me speaking in source this is me listening to what’s being said seeing templates for what’s worked and seeing how that could potentially be brought into the Suns team context Versatility in the front court Probably the last four weeks when we’ve been doing trade machine Tuesdays or sometimes trade machine Thursdays There’s been a whole lot of versatile bigs that I’ve been looking at There’s like a laundry list of seven or eight names that have kind of floated through that rotation of pieces I’ve been speaking to If the Suns can get their hands on two to three of those guys in trades that involve a Durant or potentially a Bill in some capacity I think they’re set up for success going into next season that will result in a playoff um in a playoff finish in some capacity Take that for a retool Retool and you rebuild your defense from the ground up and you allow for that to spearhead your identity for offense led by Devin Booker That’s a template for success that we’ve seen before Yeah I I definitely think so Uh BS says you were whooping us in your trade proposals Quality over over quantity there Wow factor rephrase your question I’m not sure exactly what you’re asking So rephrase that I’ll ask I’ll answer that in a second The same Mike says you win trade machine Thursday You know we we gave you all the all the spectrums I gave you two team trades that maybe didn’t bring as much value back Gave you a De’Aran Fox trade Steven dipped his toes got you back Cam Johnson Nick Claxon which of course everybody loves as well And then Aritin went a little crazy But but that’s okay That’s okay Aritin We We appreciate And I think George makes a great point which this is not George’s first day in here is it i think it might be I think this might be George’s first day in here Either way we appreciate you George But not knocking people for ambitious trade ideas I implore for people to entertain the thought exercise and the literal structuring of trades Use any use any trade platform that you want to to do it probably just don’t use the one four-letter bigname company because theirs is just not the best But there’s options out there and see how that see how long it takes you to construct a trade How many loopholes you have to work through because of aprons and no trade clauses and player options team options Do it Just do it Yeah agreed We might even take some of your submissions next week Sure maybe Uh George says “I’ve watched y’all’s videos but I’m new in the chat.” Let’s go Love that always love when when we get a convert to the to the live chat Okay we’re not done We’re not done I know we’re late We’re not done It is time for a fun fun segment It is time for Frosty Takes presented by Wendy’s of course This is a fun segment where we go back and we look at some takes of ours that have not aged well Now we had a couple and I’m going to be honest I was going to put chat on blast today I’m I was being real I was going to put chat on blast today I went back and I found some of y’all’s stupid comments but I’m not going to do that We’re going to save that for next week because we’re running a little low on time So what we’re going to do today is Aritin is going to go run and get us some frosties right now And then when he gets back Stephen you you found yourself being somewhat wrong which I had a hard time doing last week I told you I I’m not above being wrong in any capacity Sometimes the merits on which I’m wrong might look a little different It might not be directly what I was speaking to but that’s exactly what we’re going to see in this clip that we’re looking at today So u as we let Arrington kind of get back resettled in uh let’s take a look at my um let’s go frosty cuz it’s not completely frosty but my frosty frosty call it frosty from prior to the season starting actually obviously adding a a point guard and basketball player in general but the acumen and IQ that Tus Jones has is going to just up the level of IQ of the the entire fiveman group that’s on the floor but also help organize them more consistently than they did last season And I think having those things is going to naturally unlock Bradley Bill who for last season um was 95th percentile in terms of points per shot when he was taking catch and shoot opportunities That’s not something the Suns generated to the extent that they desire to last season because the ball got sticky quite often I think having Ty Jones is going to solve a lot of that And if you can get Bradley Bill who shot 45% on catch and shoot threes last season to also get the layers of slashing in addition to mixing in blending in on ball reps what do you do with this team like that’s a genuine question And I would love this I’m going to love kind of bookmarking moments over the course of the season with this unit in this particular context Well what I what I came short on which I probably had just too high I was probably a little bit too high on the offensive process that Mike Benhoer would establish And it’s not necessarily plays it’s not necessarily the personnel it’s more so the principles Spacing was very static teams could could comfortably load up on Devin Booker could take away things from Tai Jones if they wanted to in pick and roll because players that they knew spacing wise around their pick and roll around their drives will all just be static So my frosty part of that comes from not the players assessments but from valuing Benho’s deemed offensive process approach more than anything else Listen we could go back and pull I mean last week we did a bootener preseason take Now we can’t pull a ton from our pre- preseason because neither Stephen and I were fully on the show during the summer So uh we can’t go pull those but uh we uh we have a lot of frosty takes The the funny thing is I went back to to some of our recent shows and it’s just very funny because it’s like we’ll we’ll pose this like question and I’ll be like do you think the Suns could you know they might have figured it out and then all of us are just like god no like there’s no chance and it’s like oh well there’s nothing frosty about that Um all right I think that about wraps it up Uh Lucas says come on give give me an eso tag Well Mhm Okay You know before it wraps up we got to we got to we got to show some love to these Frosties man Which one did you get i think we got the sandwich I think like a chocolate swirl Yeah it’s fire Oh my god it’s fire dude Much needed Every Thursday I get to eat two Frosties Bragging It’s crazy Shout out ASU show Shout out Wendy’s Uh I’ve had the strawberry one I’ve not had the strawberry pop-tart yet one yet I want the strawberry Pop-Tart one Yeah I want the Is it cookies and cream that they have too oh yeah They got I gotta tap in I need both of those two The strawberry Wow factor pop-tart and then that one I need both of them Wow factors asking “Can we have a prediction of this year’s draft of players that could go potentially undrafted the Suns could go after in the first or second round?” That’s a good Well I don’t think Yeah after Yeah I I get what you’re saying I don’t think they’d go after anybody who would go undrafted in the first round but we can look maybe at some potential undrafted players I don’t know if we’ll do a full show around that I do know that we are going to be doing a full draft big board next week so we can go into the best options for the Suns to grab We’ll do more Kevin Durant trade talks Of course when a Kevin Durant trade goes down we’ll have a breaking news pod right here 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The NBA world is bracing itself for a Kevin Durant trade from the Phoenix Suns, but the question is, who is getting him?

Erik and Stephen are back for a Trade Machine Thursday, reacting to all the recent news surrounding KD and the Rockets, Timberwolves, Spurs, Heat and other teams, and putting together their own trades with those teams and wild cards.

What would be the best return to put alongside Devin Booker? Will it be a three-team deal, or just two teams swapping?

Follow the show @PHNX_Suns, @StephenPG3 & @ErikRuby!

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