[Friedman] In the new CBA they may make it so your roster that goes on the ice must be cap compliant; you can have whatever you want on your roster but your actual lineup must be under the cap
June 20, 2025
[Friedman] In the new CBA they may make it so your roster that goes on the ice must be cap compliant; you can have whatever you want on your roster but your actual lineup must be under the cap
49 comments
This is exactly what the NHL needs for playoffs
What about saving cap space all year to add a free agent? Is that gone?
Awaits someone saying at the trade deadline we retain 25% in the regular season but retain 50% if they play in the post season…
Joking aside it should just be any amount over the cap or over a set threshold costs picks or reduces the cap for the next season.
The number of times I’ve been downvoted for suggesting this 😂
Seems like a “well, duh!” kind of announcement…
I wonder when intentionally concussing goalies and others will be part of the CBA. Asking for a lot of friends 🙂
this is just common sense and pretty embarrassing it took this many years to reach that conclusion.
Teams have been winning the cup going 15 million over the cap lol. Ridiculous how the rules dont apply when the games actually matter
MLSE about to take their billions and lock up every free agent going
Does it include the playoffs?
About f**king time. If there’s a cap, it should be all year.
This could make for some interesting coaching decisions. I love it.
Now do the playoffs.
I wonder how this would have affected Edmonton and Florida in the playoffs. I know that both Wallman and Marchand were late acquisitions so would either team have to make roster adjustments to comply if this new rule had been implemented in 24-25?
So if you have a guy you don’t want anymore, can you just cut him and have that not count towards the cap?
Including playoffs, yes?
Does this mean that the cap would be removed in terms of overall roster construction?
In theory, could a team assemble two god squads of 7 figure contracts and deploy them on alternate nights? Could a team sign two 10M AAV goalies and a third budget backup and just keep one of the two starters entirely out of the lineup on alternating nights?
Fucking good.
Edit: Not that the Wings have anything to worry about here, but I like that this might finally happen.
Why would the nhlpa ever agree to this though?
The Alex-Willy Nylander near mixup that happened in the playoffs may become more common if this goes through. Coaching staff and refs gonna have to do a bit of arithmetic before the game.
Doesn’t this just remove the salary cap? Sign a guy to 8 year deal. Year 5 he sucks. Just don’t play him because he’s not worth the cap hit. Like wade redden playing in the AHL.
So the flames can pay Huberdeau and not play him, instead use his cap space for another Huberdeau? Amazing!
This will kill the trade deadline if this means that accrued cap space is not longer a thing.
This will give big-market clubs an absolutely ***massive*** advantage. They can just load up their teams and sit guys.
I guess the league doesn’t like parity as much as they claim to.
So if you sign a shit deal, you could just bury that person in the minors or press box with no consequences then?
Must be in the minority that I hate this idea, you’re gonna have a lot more resting of stars to maximize cap
It’s still “rich get richer” kind of deal. Rich teams will just hoard good players as injury replacement, and keep them in the press box if they are over the cap. Except now they don’t even need to pretend putting them on LTIR during the regular season. They can re-activate them whenever they want.
What does this mean for buyouts now? Buyouts are still cap hit, but player isn’t on the ice. Does this mean if I have a player with a horrible contract and can’t trade him, I just healthy scratch him and bring on another high paid player and horrible players contract doesn’t count towards cap on ice? Also what does this mean for trades where the team retains a percentage of the players cap hit?
All it took was the Oilers to abuse the same thing everyone’s been abusing for years for them to make a change lol.
Gotta love as soon as Edmonton uses this loop hole they talk about changing it. 3 first overall picks in a row for Edmonton? Had to change that too.
is the NHL just slow or old? Hire me instead…
They should just put this in writing:
“Teams must ice a cap compliant roster for all 82 regular season games and up to 28 playoff games. Roster is defined as 18 skaters and 2 goalies.”
This effectively raises the cap immensely. There must be a cap above this for your roster as well. LTIR gone.
lol this is like exactly what I think Ken Holland proposed but was apparently told would need to be fine tuned
This is the way
Fascinating
Mark Stone disapproves.
Is there going to be a cap on how many players are on your payroll?
It would be pretty dumb for a single team to be able to sign 50 active players and then pick and choose them for each game based on matchup, performance and injuries
If cap is 90M, the payroll cap should be like 105M
A.K.A. the “Vegas Golden Knights rule”.
I mean…..duh? Doing the cap on a per-game scale creates a situation where there’s a ton of world-class fuckery going on. It should be your top 20-25 salaries between NHL and AHL rosters. Injured players do not count toward the cap, but you still need to account for them when they return. The same rule applies in the playoffs – you must be under the cap. It allows teams the flexibility to make moves, but they can’t send someone down or to the injured list to accrue cap space.
I hate this – Panthers fan Lol
Makes sense in theory, though might be setting refs and official scorers up for some nightmares in the moment.
When a baseball umpire is told that a player has batted out of order, that’s simple to check and/or correct on the field. This here though….what, does a team’s head coach appeal between periods that the other team’s math needs checking? Something else? Seems potentially complex with more likelihood of the league ending up apologizing for officials’ mistakes.
This is how it should’ve always been. So silly that guys not playing or even hurt affect what you can have on the ice.
It’s almost like this has been an issue for years
This would be so absurd for teams with big pockets… could just give everyone older player 8 year deals and lower the cap hit and when they retire you just don’t play em and keep paying them
It took them 13 years to correct this from the 2013 CBA, when this concept was introduced.
This will be great for old players to play half the games rotate players in and out in playoffs.
Morgan Reilly playing bad sign another 7.5 million dollar D and pay him to not play or spot duty he is injury replacement for another the other D.
No punishment for bad contracts sit them, I am loving this.
I don’t love this if I understand it correctly. Is there still a hard cap? Or is it replaced with an “iced” cap, meaning a team could simply pay hordes of money to the best goalies and rotate them?
If I’m Toronto, for example, and I get Helle, Oetter, Vasi, and Bob on my roster for $40m total, but I’m keeping them from my opponents, is that allowed?
Alternatively, I buy players that are great strategically against certain teams and change my roster in the playoffs based on who I’m playing?
Maybe that’s all solved for with the roster spot limit, assuming it would still exist?
This could mean teams will go out and supplement their roster with a player but they will likely sign guys that they don’t mind sitting when the injured player comes back. I like it.
Sign two stud goalies for $10m each and carry a 3rd at league minimum. Alternate the studs every other game. Cap circumvented.
49 comments
This is exactly what the NHL needs for playoffs
What about saving cap space all year to add a free agent? Is that gone?
Awaits someone saying at the trade deadline we retain 25% in the regular season but retain 50% if they play in the post season…
Joking aside it should just be any amount over the cap or over a set threshold costs picks or reduces the cap for the next season.
The number of times I’ve been downvoted for suggesting this 😂
Seems like a “well, duh!” kind of announcement…
I wonder when intentionally concussing goalies and others will be part of the CBA. Asking for a lot of friends 🙂
this is just common sense and pretty embarrassing it took this many years to reach that conclusion.
Teams have been winning the cup going 15 million over the cap lol. Ridiculous how the rules dont apply when the games actually matter
MLSE about to take their billions and lock up every free agent going
Does it include the playoffs?
About f**king time. If there’s a cap, it should be all year.
This could make for some interesting coaching decisions. I love it.
Now do the playoffs.
I wonder how this would have affected Edmonton and Florida in the playoffs. I know that both Wallman and Marchand were late acquisitions so would either team have to make roster adjustments to comply if this new rule had been implemented in 24-25?
So if you have a guy you don’t want anymore, can you just cut him and have that not count towards the cap?
Including playoffs, yes?
Does this mean that the cap would be removed in terms of overall roster construction?
In theory, could a team assemble two god squads of 7 figure contracts and deploy them on alternate nights? Could a team sign two 10M AAV goalies and a third budget backup and just keep one of the two starters entirely out of the lineup on alternating nights?
Fucking good.
Edit: Not that the Wings have anything to worry about here, but I like that this might finally happen.
Why would the nhlpa ever agree to this though?
The Alex-Willy Nylander near mixup that happened in the playoffs may become more common if this goes through. Coaching staff and refs gonna have to do a bit of arithmetic before the game.
Doesn’t this just remove the salary cap? Sign a guy to 8 year deal. Year 5 he sucks. Just don’t play him because he’s not worth the cap hit. Like wade redden playing in the AHL.
So the flames can pay Huberdeau and not play him, instead use his cap space for another Huberdeau? Amazing!
This will kill the trade deadline if this means that accrued cap space is not longer a thing.
This will give big-market clubs an absolutely ***massive*** advantage. They can just load up their teams and sit guys.
I guess the league doesn’t like parity as much as they claim to.
So if you sign a shit deal, you could just bury that person in the minors or press box with no consequences then?
Must be in the minority that I hate this idea, you’re gonna have a lot more resting of stars to maximize cap
It’s still “rich get richer” kind of deal. Rich teams will just hoard good players as injury replacement, and keep them in the press box if they are over the cap. Except now they don’t even need to pretend putting them on LTIR during the regular season. They can re-activate them whenever they want.
What does this mean for buyouts now? Buyouts are still cap hit, but player isn’t on the ice. Does this mean if I have a player with a horrible contract and can’t trade him, I just healthy scratch him and bring on another high paid player and horrible players contract doesn’t count towards cap on ice? Also what does this mean for trades where the team retains a percentage of the players cap hit?
All it took was the Oilers to abuse the same thing everyone’s been abusing for years for them to make a change lol.
Gotta love as soon as Edmonton uses this loop hole they talk about changing it. 3 first overall picks in a row for Edmonton? Had to change that too.
is the NHL just slow or old? Hire me instead…
They should just put this in writing:
“Teams must ice a cap compliant roster for all 82 regular season games and up to 28 playoff games. Roster is defined as 18 skaters and 2 goalies.”
This effectively raises the cap immensely. There must be a cap above this for your roster as well. LTIR gone.
lol this is like exactly what I think Ken Holland proposed but was apparently told would need to be fine tuned
This is the way
Fascinating
Mark Stone disapproves.
Is there going to be a cap on how many players are on your payroll?
It would be pretty dumb for a single team to be able to sign 50 active players and then pick and choose them for each game based on matchup, performance and injuries
If cap is 90M, the payroll cap should be like 105M
A.K.A. the “Vegas Golden Knights rule”.
I mean…..duh? Doing the cap on a per-game scale creates a situation where there’s a ton of world-class fuckery going on. It should be your top 20-25 salaries between NHL and AHL rosters. Injured players do not count toward the cap, but you still need to account for them when they return. The same rule applies in the playoffs – you must be under the cap. It allows teams the flexibility to make moves, but they can’t send someone down or to the injured list to accrue cap space.
I hate this – Panthers fan Lol
Makes sense in theory, though might be setting refs and official scorers up for some nightmares in the moment.
When a baseball umpire is told that a player has batted out of order, that’s simple to check and/or correct on the field. This here though….what, does a team’s head coach appeal between periods that the other team’s math needs checking? Something else? Seems potentially complex with more likelihood of the league ending up apologizing for officials’ mistakes.
This is how it should’ve always been. So silly that guys not playing or even hurt affect what you can have on the ice.
It’s almost like this has been an issue for years
This would be so absurd for teams with big pockets… could just give everyone older player 8 year deals and lower the cap hit and when they retire you just don’t play em and keep paying them
It took them 13 years to correct this from the 2013 CBA, when this concept was introduced.
This will be great for old players to play half the games rotate players in and out in playoffs.
Morgan Reilly playing bad sign another 7.5 million dollar D and pay him to not play or spot duty he is injury replacement for another the other D.
No punishment for bad contracts sit them, I am loving this.
I don’t love this if I understand it correctly. Is there still a hard cap? Or is it replaced with an “iced” cap, meaning a team could simply pay hordes of money to the best goalies and rotate them?
If I’m Toronto, for example, and I get Helle, Oetter, Vasi, and Bob on my roster for $40m total, but I’m keeping them from my opponents, is that allowed?
Alternatively, I buy players that are great strategically against certain teams and change my roster in the playoffs based on who I’m playing?
Maybe that’s all solved for with the roster spot limit, assuming it would still exist?
This could mean teams will go out and supplement their roster with a player but they will likely sign guys that they don’t mind sitting when the injured player comes back. I like it.
Sign two stud goalies for $10m each and carry a 3rd at league minimum. Alternate the studs every other game. Cap circumvented.