Frondell Over Misa? Chris Peters Talks Sharks’ 2025 Draft Buzz

Frondell Over Misa? Chris Peters Talks Sharks’ 2025 Draft Buzz

welcome to the San Jose Hockey Now podcast i’m Shang Pang editor and chief of San Jose Hockey Now you can also find my work on NEC Sharks on Twitter Shang_pang and Blue Sky Shang Pang you’ll notice I’m flying solo today my co-host Keegan he is on vacation so sorry it’s just me today guys but we have a very very exciting show planned today we have Chris Peters on chris Peters a flow hockey draft guru friend of the show he talks all things draft there’s a lot of smoke now of Anton Fronell over Michael Misa for the Sharks at number two and Chris Peters talks all about that we also talk about what the Sharks might do with picks 30 and 33 and also too could a trade with the Blackhawks make sense for the number two pick anyway that’s all coming up in just a little bit but before we get to Crystal a quick word from our sponsor sponsor bring hockey back bring hockeyback.net you can get awesome t-shirts from them they have a director of vibes t-shirt which I’m going to there there you go you 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going on but a lot of sort of rumors and hearsay and so we’ll kind of hit on some of that in just a little bit we’ll talk a little bit about the draft before we get to Chris we’ll talk a little bit about the draft also we’ll talk a little bit about trade free agency but before we do that though I did want to give a brief moment of remembrance to Chris Collins chris Collins you may know was a Sharks Color commentator from 1992 to 1997 and Chris was really really good to me chris helped me quite a bit with a story that I wrote about eight years ago about the China Sharks and if you’re not if you don’t know what the China Sharks are the Sharks teamed up with a a team in the Asian League hockey or the league the Asian League Ice Hockey League and they created a team called the China Sharks it was a Chinese team that was totally in concert sponsored by the Sharks the Sharks paid for a lot of stuff that sort of thing right and Chris Collins was the founder sort of his brainchild and he also was the GM of that team from 2007 to 2009 and Chris really led a colorful life um we in that that story actually reproduced on San Jose hockey now recently oral history of the China Shark stories like Claude Lemieux going to China to play but first night he slept in the maid closet pictures of 68 Steve McKenna on a horse cart in a horse cart going to the game I believe so great little moments like that but anyway Chris was really really good to me early in my career and Chris really led a colorful life he was a Sacramento radio uh radio legend he was trying to get hockey in China going for a number of years recently here after the China Sharks of course again he brought the NHL to China and so anyway Chris um thank you thank you so much for your time over the years rest in peace so going to let’s talk free agency and trade first though and frequency and trade few things to kind of put out there that I’ve heard over the last we haven’t done a show in quite quite a bit here and I think it’s been uh well it’s been more than seven days and I’ve been hearing some stuff okay let’s start with Mitch Marner right the the big fish in the pond here and still working on some stuff but what I’ll say is that there is a little more smoke there than I thought i had poo pooed the idea for a while because I just didn’t think that the sharks were going to jump in on seven years there but one thing I did find very interesting recently is that the rumor mill the major insiders Chris Johnson whatnot they’re saying that there is a possibility that Marner will accept a shortterm offer two three four years and so I think that is a lot more interesting for the Sharks in my opinion this is not speaking for my career the front office but I wasn’t sure myself and I’ve said this myself that I didn’t know if Maro was a guy that you wanted to give seven years to because I’m not I’m just not sure some of the stuff that happened in Toronto not sure if this is a guy that four years from now when you’re in the playoffs you want to be paying him $15 million $14 million that’s just my honest take sharks may have a different opinion on that but if a guy like that of his still undeniable talent and ability is going to sign for a couple of years and we look at the stuff that happened in Toronto you can see it from the other lens the media was way too harsh on him microscope on every mistake that he made um a hockey team all the first round second round losses for the Toronto Maple Leafs that’s not just on Mitch Marner obviously hockey is a team game if you look at just the pure production the points they don’t look too bad in the playoffs yeah there’s plays that you can look at that okay he didn’t back check hard enough he didn’t take this guy’s stick but there’s extenduating circumstances maybe he was tired maybe he was all kinds of things right things that you kind of think of marner doesn’t strike me as this guy’s a cancer to a team i guess that’s the point I’m trying to make overall that this guy is unsignable or something like that that’s so when I said that I would hesitate at giving him seven years that’s not saying that the guy is unsignable the Sharks could well do the research or any team can well do the research about Mitch Martyr and discover hey you know this happened this happened these bad things that happened we can give him a little bit of mulligan here maybe in a different situation and maybe a little less of a microscope he’s going to flourish and flourish in the playoffs too and so I think that you can talk yourself into that that’s very believable not even talking yourself into it like you’re tricking yourself but for the Sharks here though that if you can bring a guy like like that in for two three four years and he you do the checks he’s good in a room obviously you talk with Patrick Marlo and Joe Thornton who played with Mitch Marner and there’s that inside track there and you talk with other people and you say “Okay whatever happened in Toronto we don’t put it all on him and it’s going to be a fresh start in San Jose and he’s going to do just fine here right?” And so I think two three four years that is kind of interesting i think that sounds more like that could really fit in with the Sharks that could be a win-win obviously for the front office too in terms of that’s going to elevate the Sharks instantly as a team and for Marner betting on himself two three four years of the cap he can be making even more money and so I think that that that kind of made me kind of think okay maybe there’s a little more legs here and so anyway I don’t think it’s going to happen i think he’s going to have better choices for similar money even if the Sharks are in in the pool for him but it just makes me go a little more h than I thought maybe two weeks ago one thing that in this kind of course of the last couple two three weeks since the combine since talking to a lot of people frame is coming a thing that I’m asked a lot about is what are the sharks going to do people are very very curious about their next step and someone did ask me I think this is a very very good question that someone asked me that I wasn’t sure about but someone asked me how long is my career’s contract and I haven’t figured out the exact number of years yet on that but generally though a GM signs a four to fiveyear contract when he comes on board now Mike R was not exactly he didn’t come in like Ken Holland could call his shots or call a shot or whatever So I think it’s safe to assume that he probably has a fairly standard contract with the Sharks and so if it’s four or five years well if it’s four years we’re actually coming up on this is year four coming up of my career as GM of the Sharks or even if it’s year five year or if it’s a fiveyear contract well year five is not that far away either so it has been suggested to me that there could be a little pressure there too be it from the contract be it from above and so that’s something that I wonder about too with what my career is going to do this summer obviously you don’t want a GM to make decisions based on that kind of pressure but I think it’s a real thing though and it’s kind of a thing to kind of consider so I just kind of put that out there that’s something that was asked of me and I think that it is an interesting question and it’s something that I’ll kind of keep teams are pretty secretive about coach contracts about GM contracts right and so it’s not always like just ask and and the answer is out there but the answer is out there and so I’m going to kind of work on that a little bit but anyway moving on from or going further with the free a free agency stuff beyond Mitch Mner beyond my career a little bit one thing in conversations the last couple weeks that has sort of come come up maybe been suggested to me is that maybe there is a kind of a how do you say speaking specifically of the defenseman and that’s kind of where I’ve done a little more of my my digging into the defenseman and what’s going on with uh how the Sharks are going to basically repair their league worst defense that got worse in season after they traded Jake Walman and Cody Cece and I think it’s interesting in sort of at least I find it interesting in in conversations I’ve had with with different people around the league that right now the the Sharks don’t seem to have a ton of interest in sort of middle class UFA defenseman that you would think they would have interest in basically kind of bridge kind of guys kind of like Wman walman had when the Sharks traded for him he had two years left on his contract when they traded for CC he had one year left on his contract so guys like that that you think would be nice bridges while you wait for Sam Dickinson to to develop while you wait for your kingpin defenseman to arrive via the draft or come up become available in trade and there hasn’t seemed to be from what I’m hearing what I believe that much interest in sort of that that that middle class of UF UFA free agency and I actually wrote about that a little bit i maybe a week ago um free basically a few ways that the Sharks could approve their their their defense and I threw out I think six names actually so I wrote an article about that and so anyway with that in mind I wonder if that leads to the Sharks are maybe not going to fill their their defensive holes or not concentrate so much on on free agency they may do it through trade maybe and free agency not that they won’t sign defenseman free agents but maybe that’s their backup maybe that’s not their their their go-to and I haven’t checked on every single defenseman out there so there could be defenseman that I missed obviously but I think in that article I basically outlined that eliminating the top of the free agency class because I don’t know if the sharks are going to give out seven-year contracts to Eblad Gabricov or Proverarov i don’t know if any of them are interested in coming here either so that removing that layer and then now you have a middle class right um I mentioned and I think there’s been rumors about it that Fabro and Columbus that they’re close anyway so don’t think that’s happening um you know maybe a guy like Matt Grizzlig maybe Cody Cece coming back maybe Ryan Lingren guys like that that’s sort of the middle class I’m talking about and I don’t know how much interest the Sharks have shown in those guys which is interesting and maybe a little surprising and suggests to me that maybe there’s a move in an offing and I don’t mean necessarily that that’s going to be a move for no Dobson or somebody like that or Bowen Byra but maybe they’re fishing there maybe it could be a smaller move like Jordan Spence which I wrote about that seems like that could be a good fit for the Sharks because the Sharks well who is their power play quarterback right now right so so they definitely could use help help on the power play and so guy like Spence 24 can definitely help in that some upside too anyway though so that’s something that been kind of picking picking at picking the fire at and so I wonder what’s going to happen obviously the draft is coming up next week the draft is on Friday and so there’s going to be more activity as as we get closer to that though one thing that is interesting to note that was pointed out is that a lot of these kind of trades and discussions happen very easily in a draft where everybody’s together in the same city and that’s not going to happen this year this year with a decentralized draft all the teams will pretty much be in their individual cities they may have representatives in Los Angeles but Mike Ger is not going to be in Los Angeles the war room San Jose war room is going to be probably in San Jose other examples like Philadelphia their war room what’s they’re going to be in Lonic City but that’s close enough to Philadelphia so you get what I mean though that that you don’t have that sort of that rubbing of elbows to kind of make things really easy for for trades and whatnot obviously this isn’t 1965 so it’s easy to text easy to do a lot of things right it can be on Zoom all kinds of things that are easy to do to communicate quickly so I don’t want to make it seem like like trades won’t happen because the the GMs aren’t aren’t in the same kind of same one mile radius or whatever but it does make it a little maybe maybe things will happen a little slower i don’t know but it’s going to be very interesting week to see the how things will be a little different with the with the draft with the setup this year and anyway so in regards to the Sharks and their moves that I I wonder what’s going to happen with that and also another thing that’s underrated too about the draft being in one place right before for agency is all the agents are there too and so that makes it really easy meetings for between the GMs and the agents and so it’s not just GMs talking with 31 other GMs so keep that in mind it’s also 32 GMs talking with I don’t know how many certified player agents there are hundred of them or something right all in the same place and talking deals and talking about hey are you interested in my guy and again make no mistake these things are a lot of these things are talked about before July 1st so um so I wonder if that slows things down a little bit uh one rumor that we’ve heard and I don’t know if this is involved with the decentralized draft but one one rumor that you guys have heard about Mitch Martner is that he is not necessarily going to sign on July 1st that he might take the time to talk with teams visit visit with teams maybe over Zoom i I guess it’s not in person but uh that’s the latest thing I read at least but something like that right whereas maybe before like these kind of like covert meetings might have taken place at the draft or at least covert meetings between not that Mitch Martner would be going showing up at the draft but that his agent would be talking with whatever GM just in the week of the draft so that kind of kind of sets it up and so kind of know by July 1 who who are you going to sign with so I wonder about that so anyway that is an interesting thing to to watch for but I think though the the my takeaway though with this and I’m going to check things change you know now we’re in the we’re approaching the week of the draft that some of these kind of candidates that I’ve talked about right that um these these these middle class UFAs maybe there’s going to be more discussions with them uh things are going to pick up basically so maybe it just started slow or who knows maybe the Sharks putter around some trades and they don’t look like going to work out and so okay the Sharks then will go with the free agency market i think though overall though before we move on to talk about the draft and get away from trade trade free agency buzz is that the Sharks need to be better next year and I don’t know exactly how much that has to do with with Mike Greer’s contract or what’s going on with ownership wanting a better team and that sort of thing right but the Sharks cannot be a a 52 or 54 point i I forget i I blur out these last two seasons the best I can but they cannot be that this year and if they are that this this next year then maybe Mike’s going to be on a hot hot seat to be honest because all the nice pieces that he’s added but eventually obviously there’s got to be uh results on the ice and it doesn’t mean the Sharks have to make the playoffs next year i’m not suggesting that at all but they have to be I think noticeably better and the improvement is going to come from within obviously from Mlin Celerbrini from William Aklan from Will Smith from Yaris Vascarov from you hope Luca Canyone um Shakir Mukuman and so on right the Sharks have obviously many many excellent prospects many many hopes many many futures but it also has to come from good smart veteran acquisitions and last year the Sharks actually did do a pretty good job of that i think that we do underrate now looking back just how much trading Mackenzie Blackwood hurt them but at that point when they traded Blackwood that they were a pretty fairly competent team on the nights that they were off they had a guy behind them that they could trust to bail them out and once you traded him off and you decided not to force Ascarov up then you didn’t really have that for the rest of the season you didn’t have that kind of that safety net to to to make things better when the team wasn’t playing well and so then that’s when the losses started happening right and then Ryan Warsi changed up the system a little bit defensively I think to a little more conservative maybe and so that helped helped the Sharks limp to the finish line more respectively than they were at mid-season but I don’t think you can really have a repeat of that though this year you don’t want that i know everyone wants Gavin McKenna but I don’t think that that kind of losing is a We talked about this so I’m not going to go too deep into this but that kind of losing when you have your piece there Mlin Celebrini your franchise piece you can’t waste his time like that and so I think that they do have to make clear steps to improve and they have to be obviously the right steps to improve you sign a guy and he’s terrible that’s a statement on Mike Brier that’s a statement on his scouting staff and they’re going to have to wear that and so they’re going to have to make smart intelligent signings and trades there is a lot of talent obviously out there and so it’s got to got to make those I think this is the big big big off season for that that Sharks do need to get better in summary so anyway so let’s talk a little bit about the draft and if you guys remember my reporting from the combine I slipped in something from and I wrote about it today a go-to source of mine told me back a couple weeks ago hey don’t don’t sleep on frontell for the Sharks at number two and that momentum has seemed to really have built the last couple of days maybe kind of a little out of nowhere but you hear Corey Proman talking about it Chris Peters and those are our kind of the our most kind of how do you say it besides Bob McKenzie and his kind of his go-to draft draft sort of draft guide right or his kind of his questionnaire for for scouts that both Corey and Chris are sort of the the deans of of hockey prospect coverage and it’s not them thinking this right this is their intelligence talking to scouts and other league sources and so this is that this is what they’re pulling that there is more momentum for Fondelle than maybe we thought three weeks ago or three months ago or whatever right and so I think it is a real thing i think it was a real thing when I mentioned it a couple weeks ago now will say though and this is timesensitive and I asked Chris this too at the end of our interview which I did today on Saturday June 21st but anyway as of Saturday 9 this is 9:27 9:28 p.m pacific I still think it’s going to be Misa so I think the Fondell smoke is real i think that based on what I’m hearing that and Chris echoes this too so he’s hearing the same thing that the top three looks like it’s going to be Schaefer one and two three is going to be Fondell or or Misa in some order fondell and Misa in some order and so that’s what Anton has done with his draft stock in the last little bit to really get himself it looks like into into the into the into the top three but I did check around a little today after talking with Chris and at this moment Saturday June 21st 9:28 p.m I’m still going to say Misa now we still have six days for me to change my mind and that’s not me changing my mind again it’s more again talking to people pulling on coats and seeing seeing the information that comes out uh one thing though that I did talk with with Chris I think you guys will be interested in and I think it’s a very interesting topic and probably something I should interview somebody about one day because I think it’s really interesting is the misinformation put out there about the draft and who stands to gain so this kind of fondelle momentum who stands to gain from that being out there right and so I I wonder about that i’m not really sure uh Chris had an interesting speculation one that I think if you are a Misa truther you’re not going to like but I thought it was very very interesting one uh the other one that I I thought was that we’ve assumed all along um rightly or wrongly that the Blackhawks really want Misa and maybe the Blackhawks want Fondell and maybe the Sharks are putting that smoke screen of Fondell because they are trying to they’re trying to work a trade and so anyway I just thought of that literally on my drive back home today but it is fair to ask when this information comes out now I wouldn’t put that in my story if it didn’t come from a source that I trust but I don’t know exactly who my source talked to and he shouldn’t tell me that because that would be a mistake on his part he shouldn’t be selling out his sources just like I wouldn’t be selling I shouldn’t sell out my sources but a lot can kind of I trust the person I talk to i trust he’s not just feeding me he feeding me crap to for whatever reason for his purposes or for some team’s purposes but it doesn’t mean that that can’t be happening to him and he may not know who knows right so there’s a lot that goes on with this right and so it’s going to be very very interesting to kind of see kind of what is the end of all this but also too like I said um think about when these things come out well who can benefit benefit from this why is this being put out there it’s worth thinking about and sometimes it could be just as simple as too that from the beginning the sharks have liked Fondell more than the public sphere has liked Fondell or it does seem that the more you talk with and not talk with I’m not just talking with like the writers guys like Corey or Chris but talking with scouts that that difference between Nissa at as the top forward prospect and say Rondelle or Denny Waya or Martone or Hagens and what have you is not as far as some of the comments I read online are I think pretty pretty out there i don’t think it’s that kind of difference guys i that’s just talking with again scout guys who watch these players for a living their job their living is to assess these players so this isn’t passing up Mlin to draft Beckett Senica for example not even close not even the same saying same same breath and so I think that every sort of talking with people that this discussion with Fondell and Misa is a legitimate one now it’s still think it’s going to go Misa but it doesn’t mean that this discussion is just kind of meritless or that are you guys stupid look at Misa look at what he did in the OHL 134 points what kind of idiots are you to even consider Anton Fondell and of course that takes away from fact that Fondell broke records in offense for a U8 player the most points ever for a U8 player in all Spence and that’s I think better than Knander William Knander not not Alex um yes ver brought Philip Forsber guys in similar positions off Swanskin playing against men Swedish second division as a 18year-old or under and that’s really impressive that’s really really really impressive and actually Chris brings up a similar example of how he underrated something that Bararkov did in Lia as a teenager and how that is meaningful because even though Fondell did do it in less games and yeah Fondell was injured this year and Fondell did not have a great U8s but Fondell produced against men 25 points in in 29 games against men is is arguably more impressive or at least it should be considered in the same caliber for sure as Michael Misa dropping 134 points in however number of OHL games and I think that’s all a very very good point anyway beyond the stats so I don’t want to get too into that because we’re now kind of weighing junior stats and those are of kind of debatable merit right how much they mean right but in terms a translatable skills obvious translatable skills to the NHL and Fondell has arguably according to the source that I spoke with with the story I put out today and best shot in the draft and not just uh my source very clear to say it wasn’t one of those shots where yeah he can he can mose the along past the blue line and beat a beat a goalie from the beat a goalie from the from from when he crosses the blue line which he called that’s like junior league stuff yeah you can do that to crappy goalies but it’s not gonna work in the NHL but he talked about with Rondell legit one-times on the weak side that you see in the NHL power play always tries to set up that weak side power play or sorry that weak side one-time and that’s going to play in the NHL and he also gave Mis a lot of credit too misa’s shot he says is underrated too i want to mention that this isn’t I’m not trying to sell you on Fondelle but I’m just trying to tell you that at least according to a source that I really really trust and not just his assessment of sort of league matters but also to his ability to assess talent and young talent and to project off of that too that this is a actual real legitimate conversation and you may not believe it you may whatnot you you can you can do whatever you want with that information but I would say that I would not put it out there if I did not trust where it was coming from and I’ll leave it at that and so regardless at 9:35 p.m pacific I still think on June 21st I still think that it’s going to be Michael Misa number two to the Sharks but stay tuned we have six days of the draft going to keep pulling on codes see what comes out i’m gonna when the information comes out I’m gonna parse it and try to figure out if it makes sense or not and I’m not just going to give you exactly what I hear because that is rumor mongering so try to be careful about it the best I can and try to give you kind of an inside scoop on things and hopefully it ends up right it’s not egg on my face of course but anyway so short episode today nothing not a lot tangible going on with the Sharks recently just a lot of buildup and leadup to the to the draft so look forward to on Tuesday I believe Mike is going to have his pre-draft availability so look for that keegan should return next week the plan is for him to put out his draft rankings his draft list and so hopefully we have a chance to put that out i will be in the draft in LA and so maybe we’ll record down there i don’t know i kind of talked to Keegan about her plan but anyway Keegan will be back next week it won’t just be me talking into the wind flopping my gums and Chris Peters chris Peters coming on right now great interview good time so enjoy Chris all right this week we welcome NHL draft and prospects expert Chris Peters to the podcast chris Peters big friend of our podcast chris is the senior content creator for Flow Hockey he also hosts the Call the Up podcast with another friend of the show Cam Robinson and Chris is here to talk all about the upcoming draft who he thinks the Sharks might be interested at picks 2 30 and 33 he’s also here to do an early victory lap about Mlin Celbrini because didn’t Chris tell you so last year Chris said that the Sharks getting the number one pick in the draft lottery it could be as important a day as the Joe Thornton trade anyway welcome back Chris hey good to be with you Shane thanks for having me man it’s uh yeah I’ll take that victory lap but I don’t think I was stepping too far out on a limb with that one at the time though you know we no one at in May when the draft lottery happened it people weren’t as sure and so I think now after seeing Mlin for a year I think people are pretty pretty are more sure about it so anyway though let’s get to the top of this draft here and the Sharks want Matthew Schaeer but they won’t be getting him right i I don’t think so i mean you know the thing about this draft is it feels like anything can happen i just think that the one thing that probably won’t happen is Matthew Schaefer going anywhere but number one um don’t really have any indication that you know that that New York is is going any other way but you know there is that kind of hanging spectre over over the organization that you’ve got the local kid James Higgins is it that big of a gap between the two players i couldn’t tell you what their internal list would say about that um you know I know for me the gap isn’t huge but it’s still there’s still enough of a gap there um certainly have the size mobility advantage but yeah I mean if if by some way that Schaefer does end up as the number two pick to me I think that that is a a great opportunity for the Sharks to have another essential building block but yeah I think it’s it’s probably wishful thinking at this point and that reminds me too to let everyone know that you just released your top 100 list right on full hockey so yeah everyone go check that out but all right then so okay let’s forget the Matthew Schaefer dream for now guys so hopefully the Sharks are able to grab him the Sharks really do need the fence we will address that a little bit later but for now though let’s focus on the number two pick and right now I’m just going to put you on the spot we’re going to talk a lot about this but who do you think they draft the number two right now Chris yeah I mean if you were to ask me at this very second I think there is you know I think there’s a realistic possibility that it is Anton Fondell over Michael Misa now realistically it’s the most likely scenario that I think everyone expects is that it’s just Misa and you take the player that had the best productive most productive draft season since Patrick came in the OHL um and and you just move on and that is absolutely a fine pick i think the difference is they’re two very different players i think that with you know the and and to me I actually think that having Celibbrini who is such a good two-way center kind of gives you maybe that flexibility to go with that flashier offensive performer but I think there’s also value in having two strong two-way centers and I think that some teams feel that Fondelle is the better of the two in that regard the other thing about Fundell is that there’s not a lot of feeling that you’re giving away that much offensive potential had the most productive season for a player of his age in the all Spencekin on a per game basis ever um and so that is not anything to just kind of just slough off basically because I think that that is significant i do think it that I I do think that the players are probably going to go two three in this draft i’m just less certain today about the order in which they will go than I have been at any point in this process i’ve talked to a lot of scouts around the NHL and asking how how do how do they feel about this possibility and they have said everybody is waiting to see what San Jose is going to do they’re not convinced that it’s absolutely Misa and so in my most recent mock draft I did mock Fondell there now I’m going to do another mock draft where I’m going to get more information and that’s the way it goes but the one thing I tell everybody there has never been one team that has said to me before the draft exactly who they’re going to pick some maybe have hinted some maybe have have at least but there has never been one team that has told me we are absolutely picking this guy and that’s because that’s not how it works and that and I wouldn’t expect to get that information it’s some of the most protected information that there is but as you talk around and the the scout gossip circles h actually have been a little more accurate in the last couple of years there’s at least they they are waiting to see and and the other thing Shane that’s been interesting that was brought to my attention because somebody that covers the draft I do not gamble on the draft I would never do that and I also would not give betting advice but they did tell me the line has moved a little bit in terms of Rondell L being the number two pick i think it was something like you know plus 1,000 or more and now it’s moved to plus 600 and then Misa has moved slightly down to minus 800 so it’s still obviously Vegas thinks that Misa is going to be the pick but the line has moved and that’s not indicative of anything in particular but it’s fascinating to see that happen at this stage we saw similar things happen when Urikovski was picked first overall there was some late movement because more mock drafts started kind of saying “Hey maybe Shane Wright isn’t going to be the number one pick right?” Um does it mean anything probably not but I do find it interesting that that’s an indicator that at least the market is saying “Ah,” and and I know you yourself reported about at least the feasibility of of their you know considering both players so um I’m fascinated so yeah my most recent has friendel if it’s Misa that would surprise me less right you know but at the same time you know I think that it’s always good to kind of give some of that um that look there is hey this is the way it could possibly go and I think no matter what happens it’ll be Misa Misa and Fondell two and three in this draft why do you think um in your experience covering the draft you know at the combine I did report that I heard a whisper and it really was just kind of a whisper but it was from a source that I would call a go-to source and so that’s why I I put it out there and how does that kind of over the last from the leadup to the combine to the draft that that kind of okay I heard something like this and it becomes a bigger thing what what changes I guess for uh teams minds or maybe it’s not even changing teams minds it’s it’s information or misinformation they’re putting up but what what changes that that kind of whisper becomes a larger rumor in the kind of in between the combine to the draft yeah you know it happens every year and I don’t know that there’s really any rhyme or reason for it one thing I will say is there are smoke screens everywhere and and this whole idea that the Sharks are seriously considering Fundell would be a smokeokc screen but To me that doesn’t really help them if it is a smoke screen because if people believe they’re going to take Misa and Misa is the player that more teams value as the better player you would probably want them to continue to think that you’re taking Misa to see what they might be able to offer you if they really want that player and and where you could go and I know that people had had wondered is Chicago desperate enough for Misa that they would make the trade uh to try to find a way to get up and so but that’s the interesting thing is now everybody’s kind of in a holding pattern because they’re like “Hey this is this is interesting.” I think one of the reasons that this stuff comes out after the draft is that all the guys are around each other a little bit more and they’re seeing what’s happening and they’re seeing who’s talking to who who’s taking who out to or after the combine yeah after the combine right sorry yeah my bad yeah but that’s that’s kind of the way it goes so I think that that’s part of it um obviously our information it gets a little bit more refined all those final meetings have happened you kind of start hearing the scouts might be talking because they want to get information from other other teams as well and so every like part of the game is trying to predict who everyone is going at and I know for a fact that NHL teams track the mock drafts they also are tracking who has been the most accurate in terms of of that you know where where because they’re trying to get data on if any of these could be helpful to them um and you know there there have obviously been some some maneuvers but like I said it’s really hard to have a perfect mock draft because I’ve never had a team say “Yep we’re taking that guy.” You know like like you you knew basically that the Sharks were going to take Celibbrini but you can’t even get the Islanders to say that they’re 100% taking Matthew Schaefer so you know like that’s the kind of the kind of thing that that that makes it a little bit harder and and the thing that I say take it with a grain of salt we’re not perfect i’ve never had a perfect mock draft i didn’t have Becket Senica at third overall i had the rest of the top five but I didn’t have that one you know so like that’s that’s kind of the way it goes so um you know and and like I said I’ll be doing another one as the information improves or gets more cloudy you never really know you touched on a really interesting point though and a lot of fans always jump on this that oh these are just smoke screens these are just except you know like the the the teams are using the media uh for for these kind of things to put out this misinformation and of course there is some of that for sure so to say that there’s none of that would be disingenuous on my part but there are also kernels or just jewels of information in there too if you can figure out what’s who’s real who’s not and so anyway I I wonder in this I’m sure you’ve thought about this i’ve been thinking about this over the last couple days since it’s been kind of more broadcast that maybe it might be Rondell i think Corey Pman said on Thursday you and Cam talked about it on Friday on your call the podcast and so who benefits from that because like you mentioned you alluded to that doesn’t seem to really benefit the Sharks right and so I I don’t know who who benefits from from that if it is misinformation well here’s here’s who it benefits it benefits the team that if if they are seriously considering going outside of whatever the consensus is to prepare the fan base this Slowski the Slowski preference the Slowski preference for Montreal didn’t slip out until the very like around this time and it started to slip out and it’s because I think that there was there was a desire to at least prepare the fan base for the possib I mean there were people showing up to the Bell Center or to to draft parties and everything else with a a a Shane Wright you know Shane Wright 51 jerseys everywhere so So part of it is preparing the fan base because the public is relying on our lists but our lists are not gospel and teams have much much more information that they are weighing and part of it is team fit like the thing about Misa at this point the thing that I and I talked about this on my own podcast the argument for a friend over Amisa is you already have Will Smith who is maybe a center maybe a wing now you’d have Michael Misa who is maybe center maybe a wing i think those are two high octane offensive performers but do you want the Fondell who projects more comfortably because of his size and his physical makeup as a as a long-term center that could be the better fit for you if you say Batman is Mlin Celabbrini Robin is is uh Will Smith and then you know I guess that makes Fondell Alfred but I’m not really sure so you know but young dashing spy Virgin Al I mean but but building your team through the middle you need strength down the middle sure and if you feel that the better center option is fondelle in this particular instance then you have to do it now on my list that would be a separation of two players for me so I have Fondell fourth um and and I have Hagen’s third and I have Misa second so obviously if I’m making the pick I’m still picking Misa because I think that that gives you even if he is a wing he can ride shotgun with somebody and be a a massive producer for a team i think there is top six potential all day i think there’s a lot of things that I like about him he is bigger than Smith he is a bit stronger he has a little bit more of a physical edge to him maybe that makes him the front runner to be the number two center but what I will say is that the the the reason that this stuff flip slips out at times is because the team is trying to say “Hey this could happen.” And it it lessens the shock value because all of the questions that you’re going to get is why not this player um and and I think the thing is is if let’s say San Jose passes on Misa I think Chicago would be ecstatic you know like that’s the thing and you you also kind of put that into the into the to the realm but I I think you know like I said it could all be complete garbage and teams are just kind of sitting on pins and needles waiting to see what’ll happen and maybe Mike Greer loves you know keeping him on edge it’s not like he’s going to come out and say who he’s going to take um but I I still am fascinated i The thing is is that when you’re picking second you have good options and I don’t think it’s a massive overthink as some fans might that it would that that it could be Fondell because I think the gap is really not that far i would be concerned i think there is a higher risk in Fondell because of the inconsistency that we saw this season um but again you kind of look at Michael Misa him having the production that he had i was like well what if we put James Higgins on the London Knights i think we probably would have seen a similar level of production based on the way that we’ve seen him play over the last couple of years and Miso as an exceptional status player was in his third season of junior hockey he’s progressing at a level where we kind of expect it and this year he was on a team where he had to be the guy whereas previous years he was kind of uh more of a bit player um I think the Sharks are in a great position here no matter what i think it can go either way and I think ultimately they’ll they’ll be ecstatic about who they pick yeah I wanted to uh mention that kind of that perceived gap i think the there’s a p perceived gap between Misa and Fondell like in among the public that I don’t think is accurate like I don’t know if Misa is that much higher a prospect than Fondelle in in reality you make a great point and this was pointed out to me i just put out a story about Misa or Fondell uh today and the my source mentioned that hey if you put Fondell uh in the OHL and he’s kind of carving up uh guys of his age unlike in Alfenskin that he he maybe pops in numbers similar to Misa and there’s not as much talk about his inconsistency um one thing that people do point to with Fondell is that he did not have a great U8s but It was also pointed out to me that hey he had just won he had just helped take lead your garden back to the SHL so he flew directly from that to Texas for the U8s and so that might have played a large element in that yeah and and he he landed two hours before his first game that he played in that tournament i didn’t know that you know I interviewed him right after that and um you know the other thing too that like you talk to the kids that have been around him in the Swedish program for the last couple of years and they think he’s the best thing they’ve ever seen you know like they they they never they don’t there’s not a guy and and you know again that’s all relative right you know so it’s their it’s their perspective but he’s always been the best player in his age group he’s always been the guy that everybody kind of looks to as the future um and you know the other things that kind of disrupted his season he was injured early in the year he missed uh the Lincoln Gretzky Cup he did not end up getting into contention for a spot on Sweden’s U20 team though i think based on their results they probably should have taken him um you know but there there’s a lot of there’s a lot of that that out there but yes I think you put we’re we’re not comparing apples to apples here usually obviously especially when we’re talking OHL versus Al Spencekin the fact that fondelle outproduced everybody in all spinsky like I I’ll give you one example like I didn’t really understand historical context when I first started doing this and and it w and back in like Alexander Barov now al lia in Finland is a better league than alskin in terms of the quality of competition but Anton fondelle or sorry Anton Alexander Bararkov excuse me Alexander Barov had the most historic season in Liga for a player of his age and I didn’t know that really I didn’t understand that at the time we didn’t have that we weren’t looking at that kind of data but that would have obviously made a significant difference in the evaluation that I did and very and this was like the first draft I think I ever did so it sticks in my mind because it was a mistake made very early on about a player that I thought hey maybe the ceiling’s not that high well if he’s doing this against pros at 18 or 17 then it’s it says that this guy is going to be a star and so if you look at kind of the metrics of of you know projecting out the the the production it’s you know Friendell’s is comparable to Misa’s in terms of overall NHL equivalency so if you want to read into that which I think there’s there can be problems with that but either way it’s it’s it’s another data point well though I hate the idea though that anytime I talk up front that we’re doing the team’s work for them we’re prepping the Sharks fan base for this off the board pick anyway though I don’t even know if that’s happening but I did want to point out a couple things about Fondell though that really quickly that what separates him based on on who people I’ve talked to is just that his shot is really elite his shot will play in the NHL his shot is going to score a lot of goals in the NHL that’s prediction at least and so that’s part of the offensive sort of um that’s how he is not that far apart from from Amisa and people might point out that you mentioned that Fondell the size and they’re both actually 61 but they’re not the same 61 though we saw that at the combine the way Fondell dominated a couple of those tests but and you could also argue the other side that maybe Fondell is sort of a man among boys to some degree and so Misa still has more projectability more growth so that’s an argument too but I did want to point that out because people will say “Oh they’re both 61.” But it’s not a same 6-1 yeah I think that’s very fair and yeah the thickness of of of uh Fondell is is a is a separator and what one why I think you know some believe he could be the better two-way option between the two players do you think the Blackhawks like Misa as much as Rumor the Blackhawks with the number three pick um I think so i think because they want the offensive dynamic to really you know continue to to grow they they’ve got a lot of guys that you know like like Frank Nazar right now is their number two center um behind Connor Baddard and Frank Nazar has some great you know overall capabilities and he’s super offensively gifted but he doesn’t have the same dynamic elements that Misa has and that Misa could potentially utilize and so he’s also a bit bigger um than what they have they have a lot of sub6 foot guys kind of in their mix right now in Chicago but they’re a team that plays fast wants to play fast i think Misa fits into that right you know it probably fits into that a bit better than Fondelle would um so I think that there’s just a better for them it’s probably a better fit but I still think that Fundell is the more likely option you know if if Misa is selected by the Sharks that I think Fondell over some of these other guys that you would consider there um you know I’ve seen a lot of Chicago fans pushing Porter Martone because of the size factor i think Frenell helps you you know he’s he’s closer to he’s between 6’1 and 6’2 right now and he’s a guy that kind of gives you um that physical that same kind of physical edge that you would need at the center position so you know I think in the end Chicago is going to be happy with with who they get here they’re going to get a forward that’s going to be a very important player for them but we’ll see well on the surface it looks like a trade between the Sharks and Blackhawks could make sense in so far as the Blackhawks if they really like Misa and they want to guarantee they get Misa and the Sharks wanted I think Schaefer if they could have their dream scenario in in this draft it would be to add Schaefer a premier defenseman to their system and the block what do the Blackhawks have sort of maybe not in excess but they have a lot of is quality young defense in their system lashunov Renzel Vassic and Kchinsky so do you think that there’s any kind of framework of a trade there where they swap two and three and the Blackhawks add one of those young defenseman yeah I mean I it’s hard to say i mean I think that that would be you know that would probably be the the the play if there was one but I just think that at this point you know yeah if you could get extra plus a guy that you like I think it’s a trade that can be made um you know I just don’t know if any of I outside of the guy that went number two last year I don’t know that you could say confidently for those Blackhawks defenseman what they’re ultimately going to be still we’re still waiting to see if Kevin Kchinsky is going to take a step sam Renzel looked very promising but in very limited action after his college season last year um you know so I think that you would absolutely have to weigh those things but um you know like if you if you and like if you’re the Sharks and you don’t feel that there’s that gap between Fondell and Misa and you can trade back and and get one of those premium players but I think the like because of this uncertainty that we have right now between the two picks and maybe you know all it takes is Mike Greer saying hey we’re going to take Misa if you want him go ahead and and and give us your best offer um that’s the only way that I think a trade would happen and I I think you know unless that does happen I think Chicago will just stand pat and take whichever of the two is left uh just a quick uh question about that i was uh speaking with somebody and and they thought that Lucunov would be too rich to ask kchinsky would be not enough really not enough to move the needle with his development so how about Renzel or Velic is that too rich to ask yeah I mean I think that Vic is probably going to be a long-term part of their core or I think that they kind of need him as a stabilizing force um that would be a great ask because I think that he would be a great fit as as a guy with some NHL experience um uh obviously the familio collection uh connection with Mark Mark Edward or the Cousins or or you know what what what have you but the uh the the situation I think for Yeah I I would say that Renzel is again there’s too much of an unknown there i don’t think that that would necessarily do it for me either to move move away from that um but yeah so I think it’s it’s kind of you’re you’re in you’re you’re in between a rock and a hard place i mean I I really do think it would take hey we’re taking Misa give us your best offer and I you know I don’t think that they would be able to get enough potentially to make it work and right like you suggest if uh they were trying to to make a deal with the the Hawks that that maybe they would just be signaling all into Misa to kind of as a as a as a bargaining ploy with the with the Hawks but anyway that’s neither here nor there though so let’s kind of move on to beyond the the the the top three picks here and um the Sharks last couple of picks uh of they have the 30th pick which is at the end of first round and the 33 pick which is the first pick of the second round what else have you heard uh uh what else did you hear about the Sharks generally at the combine and over the last couple weeks uh non Nissa non Pondell non Schaffefer related yeah you know I mean I think that it that that’s kind of taken a lot of the oxygen um you know I think that the the thing is is that with their later picks I think that the expectation would be that they’d look for the the next tier of defenseman who’s going to be available there um you know I think like a guy like that late in the first round Henry Bsteevich is an as an option um he’s you know got some puck moving capabilities played you know alongside Sam Dickinson for stretches of last season um you know so I think that that’s that’s a potential fit in the range because I think that you’re going to kind of have that tier of defenseman the Blake Fiddlers and and Sasha Bumadines and others like that that are are less likely to be available at that point u Bruce Stevich even could be less likely to be there at that point given the fact that there will be you know probably a later run on defenseman once again um and then you kind of have to dip into your bag of tricks and see like is there anybody in that next wave that that’s there and then if they’re not you know you just have to take the next best available forward but I think there’s absolutely there should be some urgency to build on the on the blue line the Sharks do have having 30 and 33 where could that move them up into is there a team in the in the 20s or the late teens that you think might might be interested in maybe more depth in the in the system as opposed to one pick yeah I don’t think it you’d be able to move up super far but I do think that you could move up into the 20s like higher into the 20s to to land one of those defenseman i do think that that is absolutely a possibility um you know Carolina has always been a team that’s moving back but they’re not that far ahead of you um with that next pick you know so it it probably doesn’t move the needle enough um you’ve got other teams that have that have three first round draft picks so you’ve got you know like Nashville and and uh you know Philadelphia and and and Chicago as well uh well Chicago’s gotten multiple picks but yeah you know uh their their pick their second pick is still in play there so um you know so I think that that’s that’s certainly the possibility of of potentially moving up and if there is a guy to get there 30 and 33 would be really enticing it might to me I’d probably rather have 30 and 33 for the likelihood unless there’s a player I absolutely love because I think once you get beyond the top 13 of this draft there’s a lot of players with a lot of different things that you’re just I I’ve said it a lot there’s there’s a lot of guys that are easy to like there are many more that are hard it’s just they’re not easy to love you know so you’re not going to really have have that opportunity I think to make an impactful uh draft pick so I would probably rather Stan Pat unless like I said unless there’s a guy you have tremendous faith in stand Pat take those two picks use those um as needed um or you know if there’s opportunities to find something a little more definitive I would potentially consider that if there’s a team that that that wants to get in into that first round still so um I’m sure they’ll get offers for both of those picks um and and and I’m sure that they’ll they’ll have some ideas about what to do with it uh during a year of the Mike Greer regime they’ve picked a big skilled power forward winger type in the late first or early second that’s Cam Lun in 2022 Quentyn Musty Casper Hton in 2023 and Turner last year and so wingers are are not the premium position of the draft so maybe they’ve identified kind of a market inefficiency because of say Chernhoff the Churnishoff was a center and didn’t get sunburnt he would have been much higher in the draft for sure right and so anyway yeah yeah so anyway any anyone kind of fit that bill this year in terms of that kind of skilled winger that might kind of drop because for whatever reasons yeah I mean I think you know Denil Prokarov is a guy that that he’s 6’6 and and Russian and so you know I think that there’s there’s a lot of intrigue about him he he hits and he scores his numbers weren’t amazing in the MHL this year uh but you see that size profile you see the shot and the scoring ability and I think that that’s a a real potential you know landing spot for him is to to to be with those guys um you know to to to be you know if if he’s still available I think he could go higher than than we expect but I think that’s the kind of player that you could potentially look at mason West the the guy who’s got a he’s he’s a center but I you know we’ll see if he’s long-term center he played center in high school um 6’6 again we’re talking there are so many of these bigger players vaklav Nestrasil i mean there are guys that are 6’5 or bigger that you take swings on and those are the guys in the later portion of the first round early second round that you have a chance to get some value out of maybe that you know like Nestrasil is a guy that you know very well could go higher in the draft um but you know I I I think that there there’s a lot of uh of intrigue in that next tier that that those guys because there’s a lot of big players there’s a lot of um you know guys that could potentially be depth centers uh long term so there there’s a lot of there’s going to be a lot of options and I I’m looking forward to seeing what the Sharks do yeah Mason West is an interesting one obviously he’s the a kid who’s going to play quarterback at at high school for for one more year but um he was interesting because I asked him at the combine if the Sharks I thought this would be a no-brainer i asked him if the Sharks interviewed him and he said no and I thought no that doesn’t make sense to me i don’t know i don’t think the kid’s lying to me but like there’s something there about again how important are these interviews how important are these dinners yeah I mean there’s there have been plenty of times where a player never spoke to the team and and they pick them or they spoke in season right like or they spoke in season and you know I mean like the thing is is you know like played in a dina played in the USL obviously the Sharks are have have coverage in both Minnesota high school and the USHL you know so there’s always those options but yeah you’re right i mean like sometimes those interviews you know you wonder how to put how much stock to put into them i they matter you know there’s no question they matter i think that’s another reason why we see movement after the combine is that you know some players rise or fall based on how they performed there and and how they interviewed there but but yeah I mean I think that there just there’s there’s just such a host of options that you really can’t rule anything out um when you’re talking about you know especially that 30 and 33 and just one more for you this is from Keegan who isn’t here because he’s on vacation but anyway he just wondered about a few guys and just quick thoughts about them and where they might fit the Sharks and um Horov William Horov uh Kindo I think it’s Benjamin Kindo Foloff the goalie uh Emerson who I believe was Misa and Chernhoff’s linemate in Sageno and Cameron Reed so any kind of quick thoughts fits with the Sharks for those five guys yeah well you know I think let’s start with Reed because I think there’s he’s probably going to go in the in the either the late teens or early 20s so I think it’ll be it’d be tough to get a player like him but he’s a really good puck moving defenseman i think if if you are going to move up into the draft that would be a guy to potentially target he’s he’s six foot even um really good mobility highly high high-end hockey sense really like what he brings to the table the other guys that I think you could potentially look at you know that that that Keegan asked about Ben Kindle 99 points in the WHL this season uh again cerebral playmaker doesn’t have the size but if you’re building the team that the Sharks are with the the group of big guys that you have it doesn’t hurt to have some more of these these undersized skilled players that are going to be able to get them the puck or or that you want those big guys to go get the puck for um so Kindle is a is a real interesting one played for the Calgary Hitman this year and if he was bigger I think we you know we’d be talking about him in the teens um even maybe if he was even 5’11 five you know you just uh six foot you know we’d be talking about him a little bit more because he is such a a tremendous playmaker and and and a cerebral player um uh Froolo the goalie is one that I have been hearing more recently is some teams have him ahead of Joshua Ravensburgen as their top goalie wow um I haven’t been able to figure out exactly who those teams are but it’s just one of those things like the goalie guys are talking and some of them like Prolov better than Ravensburg and um he’s a 6’3 goalie russia has been absolutely churning out goalies left and right obviously Ascarov being one of those guys um Frolov would be a much longer term kind of player uh but you know with with his size and his his athleticism and and what we’ve seen from him in uh in Russia’s top U20 league at a 921 save percentage you know he he was number two on the European rankings for central scouting but I think that NHL teams like him better because he has that prototypical size um trying to think of who else who else am I missing here horov and Eper yeah so Horoff Horov made the switch to college hockey midseason uh which is really difficult to do and I thought he played better in college than he did as as a U8 at at the NTDP um he’s big he’s he’s strong he’s Sean Horov’s son he’s got NHL bloodlines i think that all speaks to teams very mature um I think the offensive upside is limited i think if you draft him you’re probably drafted him for a bottom six role but I think there’s still a ton of value in that and I think late in this first round that’s probably where you could could mine some value um and get a player of that caliber so I really like that about him and then beyond that I think that we’ve got you know uh with uh with now I’m now I’m blinking again who does Oh yeah eperson so yeah Eper eper re-entry guy um highly skilled um I don’t know that he necessarily had a great showing at the combine in terms of some of the interviews and different things like that he’s a guy that teams are are a little bit iffy on in terms of just some of the some of the things that you know they they nitpick apart um but he had a great season in Sagena he had he was very productive i think he’ll be a mid-round pick um you know so so there’s there’s definitely fits there in terms of you know that offensive potential but like if you’re if you were to ask me like you know who could you go up and get you know if you were going to trade up you might have a better chance at landing a Cam Reed if you’re standing Pat there’s a really good chance Will Horov’s going to be there uh same with Ben Kindle you know not that big of a guy so he could be there late first maybe even that 33rd pick um so there are options there for them um so I I I think you know it’s nothing but good options there’s plenty there okay well Chris really thank you for the time so right now it is Saturday June 21st 12:56 p.m pacific time it is it is Fondell right now for you at number two just for now just for now and stay tuned for next week’s mock draft because it could change so for now yeah all right Chris thank you so much for your time i really really appreciate it and I’ll see you in LA all right thanks buddy great to see you thanks for having me [Music]

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Chris Peters shares the latest Draft buzz. Could the San Jose Sharks opt for Anton Frondell over Michael Misa at No. 2? (32:08)

But before Chris jumps on, what’s the latest Sharks’ free agency and Draft buzz?

A note of remembrance about Chris Collins, the founder and GM of the China Sharks. (2:28)

There’s a little Mitch Marner to San Jose smoke? (Sheng still doesn’t think it’s going to happen.) (4:32)

When does Mike Grier feel the heat? (8:15)

What’s going on with the San Jose Sharks’ quest to improve their defense? Is a trade coming? (10:12)

On the increasing Frondell at No. 2 rumors…what’s going on? (21:21)

Sheng still thinks the pick will be Misa.

And now, Chris Peters! (32:08)

Is the Matthew Schaefer to the Sharks’ dream dead?

Peters just had Frondell going to San Jose in his latest mock draft. What’s he been hearing about Frondell over Misa? (34:35)

Is Frondell over Misa just a smokescreen? (38:40)

Who benefits from letting this type of information (or misinformation) slip out? (41:46)

What’s the argument for Frondell over Misa? (43:48)

Discussing the perceived public gap between Frondell and Misa. (47:10)

What does Chris think of a potential trade between the San Jose Sharks and Chicago Blackhawks for No. 2? (53:26)

What could the Sharks do with their No. 30 and 33 picks? A defenseman and another power winger? (57:18)

Thoughts on Cameron Reid, Benjamin Kindl, Semyon Frolov, William Horcoff, and Kristian Epperson? (1:03:35)