#DallasCowboys Fish at 6 Live Report: #Cowboys a ‘Bottom #NFL Franchise’? TE Trade; Sign Pickens?
The Dallas Cowboys aren’t just a bottom of the barrel team. They’re a bottom of the barrel franchise. Diddly diddly dink. I’m Mike Fisher, your trusty and trusted reporter. This is the Fishbowl Fish at 6. You didn’t get on be good. Bring something of sports intellect to the table. I do. Straight dope, no bullsh three items on the fish for dinner menu tonight on the Cowboys as a broken down Maserati. Bottom of the barrel franchise. Uhoh. How about another trade for an offensive weapon with the Steelers? All good. And why don’t we just pay George now? Those are the three things that we will kick around tonight. We will do it with your help getting on. Be good. Interested in all your comments and your questions and your criticisms for only five slappies allowed per program. Let’s get to the first one first because this is the best discussion item of it all. This may have some legs tonight. Cowboys don’t make the playoffs last year. their struggles in the playoffs over the course of 30 years um is well documented. I make the argument that they are usually pretty good over the course of time. Not good enough, but usually pretty good. 12 and five, 12 and five and 12 and five being um my best evidence. They haven’t won the Lombardi Trophy in a long time. The negatives and the attention combine in a horrible perfect storm to cause the Cowboys to be a target of criticism. And my old former friend Colin Coward has done it again. Colin Coward says Cowboys are a paraphrasing bottom barrel franchise. He says they’re like a Maserati, a luxury brand that feels like it’s always in the shop. He says Dallas is a bottom quarter or bottom fifth franchise. Like do you think about the Cowboys and you think about winning at the same time? Okay, let’s do this. Do you think about the Cowboys and think about winning in the same sentence? The answer is yes. because the Cowboys are a iconic franchise that over the course of 60 years have been monumental winners. So, we can’t just we’re not just if you’re talking about the franchise’s success, you can’t just talk about seven and 10 last year. You can’t even just talk about a 30-year drought. You have to about 60 years. In fairness to any criticism, we’ve said it here often. We’ll say it here forever. Sometimes the Dallas Cowboys under Jerry Jones seem like a marketing company that plays football on the side. So, you can’t ignore the other. And we’ve done that that balancing act here on the scale. The blindfolded lady in the scale, marketing and sales, wins and Super Bowls. And if you watch me and listen to me over the course of the Jerry Jones era here, I’ve covered the Cowboys now for 36 years. This is something I’ve addressed for decades. It’s an issue. But the marketing, while it might overtake the wins in the efforts sometimes or in perception anyway, the marketing isn’t bigger than the wins they’ve accomplished. They will never be better at marketing. They will never be better at marketing than the 92 Dallas Cowboys were at playing football. Never. And I don’t understand how Colin Coward of Fox Sports One or or any critic who wants to be taken seriously allows himself to ignore that the Cowboys, the Dallas Cowboys are a symbol of greatness across the board. the whole thing. And that’s just talking about victories. Now, let’s get to the idea of them as a franchise because if you wanted to say, “Ah, the Cowboys aren’t Cowboys suck.” If that’s your educated attempted criticism, if you want to say that the Cowboys in 2025 are going to finish last in the division, you’re going to be wrong. But you could say that. You could think that you could theorize that Jackson Dart is going to be the next Jaden Daniels. That’s the Giants plan. And that the Giants are on the rise and that the Eagles are clearly better than Dallas. You can argue that. And that the Washington roster is better in Dallas, too. You can win that argument with me. That’s just talking about this minuscule droplet of time over the course of 60 plus years. And that’s just talking about whether or not they win enough games this year. What Colin’s talking about is being a bad franchise. The Cowboys, I guess, first of all, we all have to agree or or discuss for a minute. So, you tell me what makes a good or bad franchise. What qualifies? Not a team. There’s a difference. We’re not talking about the team. We’re talking about the franchise. Vinnie Hagen winning. That’s part of it. Steve from Texas. Publicity value. Aha. The Cowboys. Now, if the Lakers just the Lakers were valued at eight and sold for 10, the Cowboys have been valued at 10, they would sell for $15 billion if you ever sold them. value. Dan Graggsby, Uncle Fish Premium, consistent success. Okay. You mean on the field, MA ownership, Dean Graham, uh, uh, John Fton, big game moments, Michael Penny, relevancy. You’ll notice that only a only part of this is about did they win the game on Sunday. Is it a good franchise? is about finance on the field success. I would say three things. Finances in no particular order on the field success and the fan base. How big is it? How passionate is it? How connected is it? I don’t want to uh I don’t want to go willy-nilly on this without your help. So, you go willy-nilly on it. Give me the bad franchises in the NFL. And again, that has to be based on wins and losses. And we can’t just talk about last year who, well, they only won three games last year, therefore they’re a bad franchise. That’s not how this works. Collins got to know that we’re talking about a big picture who’s a bad franchise. who doesn’t have financial power relative to the Cowboys anyway because none of them do. Who doesn’t have on the- field success relative to the Cowboys? And who doesn’t have fan base power, bodies, eyeballs, money worldwide? Browns, Jaguars, Cardinals, there’s three. Panthers, there’s four. You go to a Panthers game and it’s a Cowboys game. You go to an Arizona game, this has been going on for decades. You go to an Arizona Cardinals game, it’s a Cowboys game. Did we say Jacksonville? Tennessee. Tennessee where the biggest thing in town isn’t biggest football team in town isn’t even the NFL team. The Jets are an interesting example. They almost never win. They’re not even They’re They’re not the biggest football team in town. It’s a cluster buck. Jets are a good one. Falcons are interesting. Is Houston on the list? The Giants are a fun conversation. The Giants are a gigantic fan base. Not as big as the Cowboys, it doesn’t seem. And extremely financially viable, but it’s been a long time since they were any good. JT nails one. The Raiders. We talk about a 30-year drought around here. When was the last time the Raiders were consistently good? The Chargers. The Chargers were in San Diego and couldn’t make it stick. They’ve moved to Los Angeles and the fan base doesn’t work there. You know who Southern California’s favorite team is, don’t you? It’s the Cowboys. How about the Saints? Now, I don’t know how many I I I I shouldn’t I should have written them down. How many is that? 15. That’s 15 franchises that just off the top of our heads were going, “Yeah, that’s not that’s not a quality franchise. They’re they’re not financially powerful. They’re not wildly popular, and they’re not big winners.” VJ Raiders sell out every game. You think I don’t have any idea if the Raiders sell out in Las Vegas? I assume they do. You think it’s because they have Las Vegas Raiders fans, BJ? You think that’s why Raiders games? You think that’s why people show up to Raiders games in Las Vegas? You’re wrong. Um, if we’re going to go over the course of decades, where is Washington? How about the Bengals? When was the last time the Bears were good? And on and on and on we go. Dallas isn’t even close if you if you’re being fair about the things that matter. Jangly, I live here in the Bay Area in California. I can make the argument there just as many Cowboy fans as 49er fans. I worked in San Francisco as you know and covered the 49ers in 88 and 89. And certainly I have nothing negative to say about 49ers fans, but even 49ers fans were obsessed with the Cowboys and they were good. Kurt asks, “What about the Lions?” And see, here’s a reason why we forget the Lions because they’re good now. And that is obscuring what they they’ve never won anything. Someone named Kelly gave you five. Kelly gave me five stars. $5.
Oh, Kelly gave me five. Oh. Oh, thanks, producer. Uh, Kelly. Hey, Fish. I like the six o’clock shadow. Yeah, I I don’t. But, Kelly, I thank you. And by the way, Kelly, if you’re a lady and you’re trying to flirt, I’m taking Marsha’s here. Don’t get jelly, sugar. No, not today.
On and on and on and on. with teams that are are a stinky combination of they’re not usually very good slash they haven’t won five Super Bowls. Some of them haven’t won one Super Bowl. They they they’re not financially powerful. And the biggest thing of all, and the biggest Cowboys advantage of all, the world cares. The world doesn’t care about the Jaguars. The world doesn’t care about the Panthers. Steve points out media-wise, you want to get traction on your goofy Twitter account, make up a Cowboys trade. One more thing on this and it’s about Colin Coward and this this might be the final nail in my coffin while he’ll never let me come on his show again cuz sugar, we had fun going on the show. Yep.
It was good. I was good. He was great. Colin now has done this like three times this week and it’s only Tuesday. done a massive ridiculous cowboy bashing segment. Colin, I really do. I love him to I think he’s terrific. You You do this every day where you’re making up about the Cowboys just to fill a segment and it’s transparently not really factual or how you feel. You’re you’re the boy who cried wolf or in Colin’s case, you’re the boy who cried cow. I want to be able to take you seriously, but if every day you’re making up a new horrible negative thing to say about the Cowboys, you are the boy who cried cow. Thank you, sugar. That was so funny. You almost spit out your salad, didn’t you? Item two, uh Jerry Trot over at fans Cowboy fan site, the Landry hat. He wants the Cowboys to make a trade. Speaking of getting the getting the Cowboys in a trade related headline, he wants the Cowboys to call Pittsburgh again. And Jerry again does a great job. You know, Pittsburgh got now their third string tight end. He’s got so much promise. Darnell Washington. You’ve seen him 67, 270. Um, they got Pat Firemouth and now they have John Smith. So, let’s go trade for him. Pajama Smith.
Huh?
Pajama Smith.
No, not Pajama Smith. Janu J O N U. It’s my Minnesota accent that screwed you up. Always interested in ideas. Always fun to kick around. The Cowboys already have a 6’7 270lb tight end, you know. So if we just if you just want a big guy, they already got a big guy. Darnell Washington couldn’t get on the field ahead of Big Biscuit, so that’s out. And part of this idea, especially when it becomes a discussion, is Yeah. And then trade scone to make room. Alan, can you address the maker trade rumor? Alan, give me a link because I all I’m familiar with is this silly gossip, guys. I will address the schoon trade rumor. And I don’t even didn’t even know there was one. I don’t mean anything. I don’t I don’t mean to kick him in the balls here. Who wants him? Who’s calling the Cowboys saying you got a third maybe fourth string tight end who’s almost never done anything. We are in love with him. Why? Who? Big Biscuit is the tight end is has won the number two job. I suppose it could slip away. Will be in Oxnard. We’ll watch Steven White then even Swah. Why? Why did they want to trade their tight end that they think is promising for your tight end that you’re starting to realize isn’t? Oh, Mark Sawyer. That’s probably exactly what it is. Miami in search of a tight end. They were in a bizarre story. They called the Giants and said, “We want to trade for uh Darren Waller, 32-year-old passcatching tight end, was really good with the Raiders.” The Giants said, “Well, he’s retired.” They’re like, “Well, we’ve talked to him. He wants to unretretire.” Fine. So, they give them a six-round draft pick, and now Miami has a new tight end that doesn’t really like football. But now, I see what you’re saying. Somebody is saying Dolphins want a tight end. They want to trade for one because they just jumped Janu. Let’s give them schoon. They they don’t they don’t want schoon. Nobody wants your fourth string tight end. Get it? Got it. And one more thing. I know George Pickins has has said I I just want to basically I want to bet on myself. So, I don’t want to do a contract extension right now, but what would be the number for you that you would go to him with anyway? Now, let’s recognize this is somewhat of a fantasy cuz that’s this is not usually what the Cowboys do. It’s been done, but not they they usually aren’t proactive in this way. And you might say, “Fish, before we worry about George, why don’t we worry about Tyler, Butter, and oh, by the way, Micah, uh, Kamicazi, Dallas actually has the best winning percentage in the Super Bowl era. I don’t have that in front of me, but in terms of wins and losses over the course of uh, the last 50 years, I’m buying it. Nulan Skoon would be second and third string. Wherever Skoon plays, he would not be first string. There is no place in the NFL where he would go start. Reed, I’m with you. That’s exactly where I am. George, I know you want to bet on yourself. We We love you. We want to keep you. We don’t want you leaving. We’re not like the Steelers. You would tell him. I uh we’d have to come up with guaranteed money. Emanuel says 22 million a year. I say 25. Curt S. Since 1960, the Cowboys have the second best winning percentage in the NFL. And I’m going to close on that. That makes my point for me. And you guys have done a great job helping me. The Cowboys never win. The Cowboys never win. No, actually they they almost always win. at a way that makes them the most special, not just the most valuable, the most special franchise, not just in the NFL, in sports. Fish out.
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26 comments
It’s hard to argue with the Joneses continually running the ship into an iceberg.
Colin isn’t wrong. The only guarantee to never play in a Super Bowl is you are drafted and retire a Cowboy. The Joneses have wasted more hof careers than about any sports franchise.
Let's be REAL. Right now, we are struggling (for the past 30 years). The Maserati analogy is on point. "Accomplished" is past-tense. What we are right now is a Team that has not gotten it done based upon yester-year. We limp into the play-offs when we get there, but have NOT gotten it done. IF we're talking just football (play) -we are NOT top tier. As fans we don't give a sh!t about the owners pockets. As fans we want a championship (at least an NFC one). Division is not worth a damn thing when the other teams turn that Divisional Championship into an NFC championship appearance -we have NOT. Criticism is warranted.
You have to remove every team that hasn’t played in a conference championship in the last 30 years. Take those teams and you have the Cowboys running mates for worst. Joneses have run it into the ground!
What are you talking about because some of the shit you be talking sounds like trump word salad
The team be proactive until they have a professional full time general manager.
Nobody takes Colin Cowherd seriously lmfao he says stuff just for attention just like Skip Bayless and Stephen A Smith they’re attention seeking that’s female behavior 😂
Maybe Collin is not talking about our popularity, but our relevence about Super Bowls . For 30yrs we have not even sniffed a NFC championship much less a Super Bowl. Maybe this yr is the begining of something different, maybe. Hope so
His ratings were going low that’s why he has to talk about the Cowboys
The Washington roster is not better man for man Fish !
Bad pick for the cowboys, scoon!!!!!!!
Jags, Jets Carolina
You watch, tomorrow Florio will jump on Cowturd's septic pump wagon with a copy cat negative "Hawt Take!!".
Offer GP 65mil with 45 guaranteed on a three year contract, starting end of season. Throw in a nice house close to Frisco.
Mr. Fischer, you are wrong.
When your owner has done NOTHING in the last 30 years but follow the blueprint he learned from the late great Al Davis on who to run an NFL franchise team, you can say they are a "Drive for show" and not a "Put for Dough" team.
Tampa Bay Bucs were the laughing stock of the NFL for years, then in 2000, after over 20 years of nothingness, they rose to the top. If you can be NOTHING and then become SOMETHING by winning it all, you can definately be SOMETHING and become NOTHING.
For a franchise to be soooooooooooooooo storied, and to have a 30 habitation in the desert of the NFC East while simultaneously being the most valued sports franchise or sports corporation says everything, it really does.
It reveals the strategy and intentionality of its ownership.
Look at the new stadium, everyone and anyone can come to the game. We could have 30 thousand Eagle, Commanders, 40whiner fans at our games! The stadium was built with the intentationality of making money, not having a homefield advantage.
Everything that has happened in the last 30 years as been null and void.
The old song, "What have you done for me lately" rings out in the air. If your married and your spouse for the first 30 years was faithful, do you neglect the last 25 of unfaithfulness?
Do us all a big favor, and please atleast be objective.
Jerrah, son Jethro, Jerrah Jr, daughter Ellie May went sold out to get them team. Which is admirable. While being somewhat humble in the beginning and allowing JJ to run personnel, it was a great team, even though issues were there.
Since JJ left, and the team JJ loaded with personel diminished, Jerrah has shown his football IQ.
As a diehard since earl 70's, its very difficult to watch were we've been for the last 30 years. Chan Gailey, Dave Campo…… DAVE CAMPO, Jason Garraett, Wade Phillips, etc….
Anyone, who is honest in this conversation can say, the Dallas Cowboys were once a storied team in the NFL, now, they are not. Now, they are barrell scrapping and it falls on Jerrah, can't get around it!
30 years of bottom feeding doesn't make up for the first 5 years of living on the top of the food chain.
WE are destined to be like LV Raiders, a team who has been ran into the ground by its owner.!!!
Kansas City’s been winning a lot and they’re having trouble getting a new stadium
I don't understand the Ferguson hate… he's not a bad TE
Since Bears got their USC QB (Colin was holding the door open when Lincoln Riley showed up in LA) Colin has non stop schlurped the Bears (of all teams), how great they will be, then when reality hits – he then ravages their O line. Can't be the QB and his painted finger nails. Fish, I'm telling you Cowherd has really changed the last few years (relocating to LA, it began). Used to watch him every day. My dvr is now Cowherd free….
The boy who cried Cow🐄 😆 Love it
Chargers and Rams we take over their stadium!!
We will take over Las Vegas as well!
The cowboys offensive line is garbage. They will be last in the division.
The Cowboys are the only team in the NFC to not go to the NFC Championship game in the last 30 years. So, they have been monumental losers in the playoffs in the last 30 years. Any cowboys fan born after 1995 has never seen them in an NFC Championship game.
The cowboys are a bad franchise because of the bad general manager(s).
The cowboys have not been great since Jimmy Johnson left, so that should tell you Jerry Jones has NEVER been a great GM.
Cowherd and Bayless are the same . Fish says no, but that's personal. Wait for it. Bayless will start with the personal insults to Cowboys as well.