Detroit Pistons & Kings trade back on?! | Free Agency Update

Detroit Pistons & Kings trade back on?! | Free Agency Update

Uh I I absolutely love what Trejan Landon is doing. This is a offseason where and I and we teed this up leading up to the draft and up to free agency that I do believe that this team is looking to make some tweaks and where they can strike without hamstringing things for the future like Trean Leightton said that that’s what they were going to do and that next offseason is one where I think you’re going to see more fireworks even if those fireworks are the extensions of Jaylen Duran, Jayen Ivy, Marcus Sasser, you know, even if it’s just that because then that means that these guys did take the necessary steps forward And they did prove, at least for Jaylen Duran and Jay Iv, they’re taking that step towards stardom. They’re taking that step towards, you know what, these are the players that we do need. We don’t have to look for our five of the future. We don’t have to look for our two of the future. We don’t have to look, we don’t have to look for our backup point guard. We know that or a combo guard. We know that Sasser can lock it down. And so when you see the Pistons doing what they do here, it’s more of, like I said, that front office underneath Treasure Landon is hands down one of the best in all of the NBA. They understand the cap. They understand the CBA. They understand, I believe, other teams caps better than they even do. When you see how they got Schroeder and now Shruder, Dennis Shruder, and now you see that they’re about to potentially flip this thing into a trade exception. That’s amazing. That’s amazing. It gives you that.
But that’s what I’m saying. This is this is why when Michael uh uh Blackstone was hired and we started to look at the different parts and pieces going into the front office, this is why we got excited about it. I remember doing that episode. didn’t get much, you know, uh, it didn’t generate much engagement, but right now, right now, it sure is. At the trade deadline, it sure was. And this to me is the power of a treasure landing at president of basketball operations. They haven’t had this in a long time. They haven’t had one singular voice in that office for a long time who can delegate gate properly, who understands what he understands and can put people in the right places to do the job effectively. And that’s what I believe we see happening right here because we all thought this thing was dead on arrival. But the more and more I’m thinking about it, maybe they believed, you know what, we can have our cake and we can eat it too. They bolstered the start of free agency with the BZ news by getting LeVvert. They probably went out there and said, maybe we like the fit of Duncan Robinson a little bit better. I don’t think Trejan Landon dragged his feet. I think Trejan Landon did what Trean Landon wanted to do cuz the Kings media and some of these people I saw put it out there that well Tanjan Landon thought he was going to make the Kings wait. Well, did he? He’s still look they still waiting. He got his guys and still might get something else. That’s called cooking. Yes, it is. And remember yesterday when we talked to Rod Beard, I had mentioned how the Caris Levert signing I came around on even though at first I was like at first at first I was a little like eh. But when I dug more deep into it I’m like okay this could work. The Duncan Robinson signing I was happy about. But was I completely satisfied? Not quite yet. although not angry but what Tjan Langden was able to do and Chase if you have the Omari Sanca tweet you can uh put it up whether you whether you can or can’t I will read it source this is from Omari Sanca he’s a Pistons beat beat beat beat beat beat beat beat beat beat beat beat beat beat beat beat beat beat beat beat beat beat beat beat beat beat beat beat beat beat beat beat beat beat beat beat beat beat beat beat beat beat beat beat beat beat beat beat beat beat beat beat beat beat beat beat beat beat beat beat beat rep rep reporter the Dennis Shruder signing will be a signin trade between the Pistons and Kings that will allow the Pistons to take back up to 22.6 million or will generate a player exception worth 14.3 million if they don’t take a player back. Either way, they gain flexibility. And save that for a couple of minutes, Chase, cuz we’re going to talk more about that cuz it was a quote tweeted and it could lead to some interesting conversations. So,
how the f were they able to do that for Dennis Shruder? Do you think part of it is taking advantage of the Kings organization, which has proven since the early 2000s, since their their heyday to be a little dumb?
I you know what? I I I think that the Kings organization today has a better structure than prior. And I do believe that when you look at the grand scheme of things, like how this NBA water is starting to bubble up with this mega trade that’s being rumored and such, I do believe that there’s some teams that are seeing some opportunities to strike, whether it’s getting a player that they coveret and think that they can help them the next way uh the next steps ahead or whether it’s you can do something cap strategy-wise to put yourself in a better position. And I do believe right now that is what the Kings are trying to do. I I wonder right now if they have pivoted somewhat and believe that they are a squad that can go and compete in the West next year with what they have because this offseason started with them seemingly wanting to trade everything. Damata Sabonis was up for you know in rumors. Uh we understood Malik Monk’s name came up in some rumors but now it’s a situation where all the they they’ve gone and they’ve signed people and they haven’t traded those guys. So I it is interesting to see how they’re operating and I think that right now what you see is them stuck in between two places. They had a strategy and now they’re looking at well look at the roster we have. We actually it’s not horrible but you know and you look at this if that big old deal goes down between these other teams. The Kings are probably looking at this thing and saying maybe we can go and compete based on where the chips fall. Maybe it’s tough with them because yeah,
I still see play in maybe and and that’s not really the best situation to be in. They’ve kind of
I would say that they’ve underachieved in the last couple of years, taking the Warriors to seven in that series and then kind of falling off of a cliff after that. They’ve obviously got some talent. A lot of uh vets, I would say. A couple of former Chicago Bull vets, which is very, very interesting. Obviously, uh Sabonis, they still got Monk. They still got Keegan Murray. They’re definitely not. Yeah. Right. Those those are nice pieces. I I just I I I don’t
It’s hard to say what they’re doing. Like you said, they’re they’re in a weird purgatory limbo. Not the worst, but also not advantageous either. similar to Trajan Langdon though and that’s what I’m saying. Remember Tjan, did he not say the same thing? Like, whoa, we had a plan, but uh these guys are a whole lot better than we actually expected. So, now we have a different plan. And that’s where I believe the Kings underneath their new management, I believe that they might be there. I believe the old management, you absolutely would have seen three or four players traded by now. Absolutely. Keegan Murray would have been out of there and they would have traded him for like four first round picks and like, huh? you know, if you got a guy like that, you’re not trying to trade him for just first round picks. He’s already a young player. You’re trying to trade him for somebody established. But these are the things that we’ve seen them do in the past. Uh, you know, and so I I’m looking forward to seeing exactly where they go from here, which side they lean into because the free agency uh offseason period is not done yet. I and I do believe that they have a lot of pieces uh that teams around the league are probably looking at like, hey, I mean, if you’re looking to get rid of somebody, which was why I I got so excited when Kavasier Chase talked about Sabonis in our previous um you know, free agency uh talk when we’re talking about the shooter to the Kings trade is because we understand exactly who the Kings have been, but they don’t seem like they’re like they’re operating the same way. them creating this. Honestly, let me put it this way, cuz when Troy Weaver got the trade exception for the Jeremy Grant sign and trade, um it was effectively uh uh I mean, when when he gave it to Denver, it was effectively him saying, you know what, thank you guys. And and and saying we’ll create this for you. So, this might be one of those situations, too, where the Kings, they get the ability to say, you know what, we will engage in this. We will give you this. And so that’s why I look at this new front office here and I say, you know what, Kings are doing things today a whole lot differently than we saw them do prior.
No, that’s fair. They they they maybe calling them dumb right now is a little disrespectful, but they were there was the previous generation time. Well, like whatever Vlatty, Joe Dumar, whatever was going on during those years, it was like what are they doing? Look at that. I had no idea
between like 2010 and 2018 besides for Darren Fox. They’re uh morbid. Shout out Mar our old friend Marvin Bagley. But
it’s going to be interesting to see what happens from here because you got this big trade exception. And you know obviously they can they can utilize that between now they can utilize that by the trade deadline. I like I’m wondering now where’s Tan’s mind at? Is it a backup for? Is it another wing? Is it another guard? This thing is going to be interesting because even when you look at what the Kings still have on their roster, you know, I see I think Travis in the chat just said, man, he would love Keegan Murray. You know, you look at everything from Malik Monk, Keegan Murray, John Collins, you know what I mean? It’s still out there. It’s like there are still some options for the Detroit Pistons to be able to make an impactful move this off season. Hey, and speaking of which, glad you mentioned Keegan Murray, Travis, in the chat because speaking of our company group chat, Chris Platty, thank you for earlier on at about 7:15. Shout out to the heavyweights, giving me some ammunition for the show because he posted in our chat a tweet from Kyle Mets. He’s a uh Pistons content creator, I believe, for the home
he’s been on uh Woodward Pistons Table Talk as well. Hey, shout out to Kyle Mets, friend of the network. He actually came up with a list of forwards. He’s just singling out forwards, but I think it’s interesting that fit into Shruder signin trade as is. And that is he was quoting the Omari Sanca tweet. And Chase, if you want to put that one up really quick. It was the one from earlier.
Yes, I know. I got you, Sam.
I appreciate it. All right. So the list is Kyle Koosma, Dylan Brooks, Harrison Barnes, Ruie Hachimura, Patrick Williams, Kellen Johnson, Jonathan Isaac, PJ Washington, Obie Toppen, Jared Vanderbilt, and Keegan Murray.
Do any of these names sound enticing?
Are you sure it’s Jared Vanderbilt and not the University of Vanderbilt we can put on the roster? Hey, shout out shout out Simeon our Vanderbilt in our Vanderbilt. Hey Diego Pav. Tune in to Big D later.
If Troy Weaver is here, Patrick Williams will probably be on the scene right now. That was somebody that he was absolutely uh fawning over and I I like the skill set he brings. But for me, for some reason, I like the back half of this list a little more than the than the top half of it.
I would agree with that.
I definitely do. I’m looking at some names there. Like, do you buy the risk high reward of a Jonathan Isaac? Do you like, you know, the energy of the guys like Patrick Williams and Kell Johnson? I know there’s a lot of love out there for OB topping because you’re getting one of those NBA ready guys who, you know, can do a plethora of things out there on the court and defend on the other side. And then there was infatuation with Keegan Murray cuz we all, no matter who your favorite draft pick was, we all had to fall in love with one of the ones that could be up there. we all fell in love with. Well, at least we know we’re gonna get one of these top five to seven players. And Keegan Murray is one of those guys that we knew. If we do get him, at least we know we’re getting a young shooter, you know. So, I like whatever, you know, if you come away with anybody on this list, anybody, it will help the Detroit Pistons next year, but there are some on this list I do believe adds a little bit more to uh when you talk about versatility, when you’re talking about being able to fit right into a system really day one. I like some of these names up here. No, it’s it’s interesting because you see quite a variety even though they’re all like technically forwards. If you want Washington,
if you want Yeah. If you want like defensive focused players, obviously you got Dylan Brooks, you’ve got um Jared Vanderbilt, Jonathan Isaac is the one with the most size. He’s 610. Although
injuries
definitely has a big injury history. And I don’t really love him as an offensive player. To me, there are three on this list that are my favorite and not in any particular order, but I will just go the order as they appear on the list. Rui Hachumura is intriguing to me. So is Obi Toppin and so is Keegan Murray. And when and honestly probably the one I’m most intrigued with right now and maybe it’s recency bias. If the Pistons could get Obie Toppin, man.
My my three PJ Washington, Keegan Murray,
and Obie Toppin.
There we go. So, we got two of the three on a Ob. And I’m not Listen, I’m a Ruy fan. My household is a Ruy fan. Like my kids are Ruy fans. He is a Ruy fan.
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