Could Jeff Skinner Return to the Edmonton Oilers? Why It Didn’t Work and Why It Still Could

Could Jeff Skinner Return to the Edmonton Oilers? Why It Didn’t Work and Why It Still Could

Jeff Skinner’s first season in Edmonton didn’t go to plan for the Oilers or for Skinner. Is there a world where Skinner could return for a second goaround as he remains unsigned entering the second week of free agency? On today’s edition of Locked On Oilers, you are Locked on Oilers, your daily podcast on the Edmonton Oilers, part of the Locked Onet. your team every day. Hello everyone and welcome to this Monday edition of Lockdown Oilers. I am your host Nick Sars. I just wrapped up my third NHL season as a host on the Lockdown podcast network and I want to thank everyone that is making Lockdown Oilers their first listen of the day. Lockdown Oilers we we’ve got your team covered every day available on all the major podcasting platforms in YouTube. And today’s show is brought to you by our friends over at FanDuel. Right now, new FanDuel customers can get $150 in bonus bets if your first $5 bet wins. So, in the Hollywood business, in the world of movies, this is what they would call one for me. And we’re going to talk about Jeff Skinner on today’s show. And we’re going to start out with why it didn’t work for Skinner in Edmonton this first time around. Our second segment, we’re going to pivot to why I think this could make sense. And then our final segment, I’m just going to make an impassioned plea for the Oilers to find some more depth scoring and why I think Skinner is a good candidate. So to start things out, anytime we are talking about a player coming off of a contract getting bought out, they are looking to reestablish their credibility, their bodafides. And you’re talking about a player in Skinner, won the Calder Trophy all those years ago in Carolina. Has been a pretty consistent 20 to 30 goal guy for most of his NHL career. Of course, prior to this year, had never played in a playoff game, a hurricane, and a Buffalo Saber prior to becoming an Oiler. And when you get bought out by a team like Buffalo, and look, I don’t want to pile on the Sabres too much cuz they’ve got enough problems of their own, but the day that Skinner contract was signed in Buffalo, we all kind of looked at each other with pondering expressions and weren’t really sure what Buffalo was trying to do. I I love Jeff Skinner, the person. He’s a genuinely really funny dude. He’s a pretty good hockey player in a specified role, but the Sabres signed him to be something he wasn’t. And the reason I was excited about this move last year for the Oilers opening of free agency, why I thought Jeff Jackson did such a good job in acquiring Skinner and Arbertson on the first day of free agency. I felt like Jeff Skinner had more to give. And I think one of the really unique features of hockey that’s specific to hockey is that when you have a specialized skill set, like in Skinner’s case, you’re a plus shooter and you’re a good straightline skater. You’re not a great facilitator, you don’t really forche too aggressively, you don’t hit, you’re not a great defender, but you have one or two really good plush traits, and you get put in a specialized role where your team is only going to ask you to do those things you’re good at. the capacity to get more out of you in terms of efficiency is what makes it interesting. The the perfect example of this is Corey Perry last year. Now, no, by no stretch is Cory Perry still an elite hockey player. You know, once upon a time, heart trophy guy, Rocket Rashard guy, 50 goals, team Canada for the Olympics. Truly one of the better players of his era. Now, Perry is on the caliber of player that he’s so good, he was able to reinvent himself as his skills changed. I think that’s one of the real telltale signs of a special player, someone who can reorient their skill set around a differing role. And Perry, who was never the fastest skater to begin with, losing even that fleeting foot speed he did have, having to become a better close area player. You know, I I vividly remember starting uh an episode coming out of a playoff game this past playoffs where I the my biggest takeaway was Cory Perry as a for checker even without the foot speed. He’s so masterful at using his body and his stick to win loose pucks or to create 50/50 pucks that you could get by with him only playing a certain role. And Perry did not play a lot of minutes for the Oilers last year. only only getting 13 14 minutes a night, not getting on that first power play unit except in injury situations when Zack Heyman was out late in the season and in the playoffs there after he suffered the broken wrist. But there’s a world where you can do that type of role with Jeff Skinner where he’s probably not going to get on your first power play unit if you’re a good team. I I I don’t think at this phase of his career, Jeff Skinner, someone you especially with his skill set where he’s a bit of a stationary player where he’s going to be looking for shots and he becomes a bit one-dimensional when you feature him on a power play. I think as far as creating zone entries on a power play, he’d be useful on a second unit. someone who has a little bit more of those upside traits you would look for on that, especially on a team like Edmonton whose second unit’s maybe going to get 30 to 15 seconds of power play time on a 2-minuter. But I think the biggest barrier to Skinner getting off on the right foot as an Oiler and ultimately why it didn’t work out. I think he was really a victim of circumstance that first month of the season where the Oilers were really struggling. You know, they come out of the gate, I think it was 55 and two. They didn’t really look the part of a team that was in the Stanley Cup final. They were having a hard time scoring because they were having a hard time scoring. They were there was too much of a magnification on their defense. And I think Chris Knobblock went to as defense friendly a lineup as he possibly could. I’m looking at it here. I pulled it up on Natural Statrick. So, in the regular season overall, Jeff Skinner and Conor McDavid played 139 minutes at five on five. They had 59% of the scoring chances, 52% of the goals, 61% of the high danger chances, 62% of the expected goals, only 52% of the goals. A bit low on the save percentage end of things. And I do think that’s a lot of where Chris Knobblock’s early season frustration with the the initial group he had put together where Jeff Skinner was playing with McDavid and then at points with Dry Cidle. I think because they were having a hard time scoring, it was putting a lot of responsibility on their defense. And if you’ll remember, the defense was very patchwork at the beginning of the season. Travis Dermit, who they had signed to a PTO, was getting extensive work. They hadn’t really figured out what they wanted to do with Tai Emerson yet. Greg Koulak had yet to emerge as a top four defender. So, in trying to put together a more stable lineup and a little bit less of a volatile group, Jeff Skinner got the boot. You saw Pod Coulson go up. You saw Nan Hopkins go up and that brought the temperature of the team down to some degree. They were a little bit more of a possession team. They weren’t at creating as much off of the rush as they had in years past. And I think Skinner unfortunately was really a victim of circumstance. The underlying numbers are very good. Now it should be said this is a liability of Skinner, McDavid, etc. When you have such an offense first tilt to a line, if they mess up, you got to think about what the responsibilities are of a Conor McDavid line on a given night, they are going to be trying to get that puck as close to the net as possible to create as much dangerous offense as possible. And that’s going to make you very susceptible to counterattacks going back the other way. We saw teams do this to great effect against the Oilers in the playoffs. I think the Panthers did a really good job of this of putting McDavid on his heels where even though the Oilers would create a pretty dangerous scoring chance because the Oilers had three or four guys below the hash marks, it created twoon-1s and threeon twos going back the other way. And that’s really something Chris Knoblock really sought to avoid it sought to avoid. And I do think the fact he liked that Adam Henry, Connor Brown pairing so much that they were more of a defense first, absorb heavy matchups, absorb difficult responsibilities, that put them in a position where Jeff Skinner didn’t really fit there. And because he didn’t fit with McDavid because they were going to play NG there on the wing and they liked what Pod Coulson brought to Dry Cidle’s line and because that third line had a defense first tilt, they preferred to play Yanmark there. that really left Jeff Skinner with no runway, no spot to play himself into. And I do think there’s a world where if the Oilers get off to a slightly better start last year, Jeff Skinner gets more burn in the top six. And we’re having a very different conversation. But because the Oilers found success without him up there, Chris Knoblock was not as inclined to change up the forward lines as maybe the rest of us would have liked because Jeff Skinner on the surface still does enough right that there is good hockey left in him. Even though he’s on the other side of 30, even though he’s coming off of a down season, I think there is a role for Jeff Skara on a good hockey team this upcoming NHL season. And I do think the Oilers, should they be interested, could very much make this work by burying a contract or two in the AHL depending on how much money Jeff Skinner’s looking for. But we need to take our first break on today’s edition of Locked on Oilers. And I’m going to explain why from a lineup perspective. The Oilers could do far worse than adding Jeff Skinner to this group. Coming up next on today’s edition of Locked on Oilers, where we’ve got your team covered every day. 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Thank you to everyone who is hanging out on this Monday edition of Lockdown Oilers as we move into the second week of NHL free agency where the temperature typically dials down. I think if you don’t sign in that first initial wave last week, as in last Tuesday when free agency opened, I think you’re a lot more inclined to wait it out. And there are advantages to that. You can look for a very specialized specific role. There are also disadvantages. The longer it takes you to find a landing spot, the trickier it is to get one. And I think those are self-defeating. That’s a self-fulfilling cycle. Not self-defeating. Excuse me. Didn’t mean to say that. When you get into one of those self-fulfilling cycles where the longer you wait, the fewer spots there are to go around, you are putting yourself behind the eightball to some degree. I think it depends how late. I think as long as you sign before training camps open, you should be fine. Jeff Skinner is the type of guy who’s not going to be in camp on a PTO. This isn’t like a Mike Hoffman situation where it’s a guy trying to hang on at the NHL level and is more likely than not to end up in the AHL. Jeff Skinner is going to play NHL hockey next year. It’s simply a matter of where. As for why I think the Oilers should at least consider this number one, and we talked about it briefly in that first segment, the results, the underlying results were good enough that I am inclined to believe there is something there. Now, again, Jeff Skinner is not an individual play driver. You cannot drop him on the third line with Adam Henrik and Trent Frederick this upcoming season and tell him, “Okay, create as much offense as you can.” that’s just not in his repertoire. Yes, still a plus skater, still a plus shooter, but he’s not gonna facilitate. He’s not going to create. And on that line, which is going to be drawing more defensive oriented matchups and have more of a cycle, slow the game down, bring the temperature of the game down responsibility. I don’t think there’s a fit there. Now, and if you’ll recall back in February during the four nations break, we had Austin Hockey on to talk about this about what’s the ideal usage for Ryan Nan Hopkins at this stage of his career. I don’t think Ryan Nan Hopkins should be playing third line center in that matchup role. I think the playmaking ability is still a plus there to be a complement to what McDavid brings. And if Heyman’s on the other side, that really gets a nice d nice um blend of skill sets between the three of them. But if you’re of the opinion the Oilers can do better, you know, they can lean a little more into their offense on that first line, there’s a world where you could run Nan Hopkins, Henrik, and Trent Frederick as your third line, and you could play Jeff Skinner with McDavid. And look, I understand that most players are going to look pretty good. The underlying numbers with Conor McDavid are generally going to look pretty good for anyone out there. Now, I’m not saying that you, the listener, or me, the podcast host, would be able to make it work on McDavid’s left, but McDavid with skilled players, and Jeff Skinner is a skilled player. I know the numbers last year, 29 points in 72 games, nothing remarkable, but considering he’s only playing 12 and a half, 13 minutes per night, not getting power play time, not getting a ton of time with McDavid and dry cidle, not getting a ton of time with that um Buchard at home pair. It’s really tricky. And this is why whenever we do a player evaluation or a player breakdown, I really like to talk about context because so much of hockey is situational. How many minutes per game are you playing? Do you get power play or penalty kill time? Who are your most common linemates? What’s your quality of competition? Do you get a lot of offensive zone starts, defensive zone starts? Based on who you’re playing with, what’s the responsibility of your line? I think Jeff Skinner, as soon as Chris Knobblock felt he wasn’t what he wanted on that first line left swinging spot, I think Jeff Skinner really couldn’t find a way back into the lineup with real consistency. And I think there’s a world where the Oilers try and become a bit more of a defensive oriented team. And I think that’s a credit to Chris Knoblock. I think the the way Conor McDavid and Leon Dryle at various points in the playoffs talked about being proud that the Oilers were a good defensive team. I think the simple matter of the fact is for the Oilers to compensate for maybe a little bit less talented of a forward group that they’re going to roll with at least to start next year. I think leaning into a defense first mindset can work in spurts. But I think in the long run and as the NHL has skewed more towards skill and speed, especially in the last five years or so, I don’t think we’re going to see defense first groups win. And look, that’s not to discredit Florida. Florida is a tremendous defensive hockey team. I would venture to say they are probably the best defensive hockey team in the NHL. That is largely a testament to their forward group’s commitment to defense. And I think that’s something Chris Knoblock takes very seriously. I do think he cares about the commitment level of his forwards to backing and playing defense. And I do think that and I do think that worked to Jeff Skinner’s detriment this past year that he doesn’t really have that in his repertoire. And that’s why guys like Vasili Pod Coulson and Kaspari Copenin got significantly more run especially in the top six during the regular season because Chris Knoblock trusted those guys and their defensive instincts and their commitment to playing defense. Now you look at the Oilers right now on Daily Face Off that lineup is kind of unimpressive and it’s crazy to say that about a group that features Conor McDavid and Leon Dryidle but Ryan Nan Hopkins Andrew Mapapani Trent Frederick Matias Yanmark that’s relatively comparable to what you brought in last year down the left hand side you could say that Mapani is a your deacto Jeff Skinner replacement but I think Jeff Skinner has more plush traits than Andrew Mapani. And look, Mapani is one of my favorite players in the NHL. He’s a buzzoff for checker. He’s annoying to play against. He’s really good around the net front, but I think Jeff Skinner’s release is a higher end of that of a higherend player. I know Mapani’s career shooting percentage is higher than Skinner, but I think Jeff Skinner is a plus shooter at this point. I think Mapani is a bit more of a crash the net, rebounds, deflections type of goal scorer. And again, there’s nothing wrong with that. You need both of these types of skill sets in your lineup. But I do think the Oilers are probably one forward short right now. And I know they signed Curtis Lazar last week at the behest of Conor McDavid and Leon Dryidle who were both pretty excited about the opportunity to get him. I don’t think Curtis Lazar profiles as a top six player on a Stanley Cup contender. I do think the Oilers are going to have to do some work here as far as setting up their roster to acrue cap space. We know they’re going to make a move or two at the trade deadline just because that’s the nature of being a Stanley Cup contender. The expectation is they win. The expectation of being a Stanley Cup contender is that you will make at least one to two moves at the trade deadline last year. I thought the Jake Walman move was very shrewd. The fact he had another year of team control. I think his skill set translated very well to what the Oilers needed. Needing a second puck mover was a real challenge. Yes, they paid an expensive price in a first round pick, but Jake Walman definitely worth that. I think him and Clingberg up until the Stanley Cup final were formidable a pair. Sure, they had light workloads and easier responsibilities, but the numbers did not lie. And I think there is a strong argument that if you can make the money work, that Jeff Skinner is the ideal plus candidate. You know, someone who has upside to be tapped into used in a really efficient role. And I think part of this for me at least personally, I think it really shows a healthy organization that they can look at a guy say this didn’t work. What can we do better to get more out of them? And I think Skinner is going to be inclined to at least listen. Now look, I’m not saying the Oilers are going to do this or that this is even something they’re considering, but you could do far worse than having Jeff Skinner as one of your 12 forwards on opening night. When you look around the NHL, you as we get more and more into a plus salary era like we are going to be operating in going forward, teams are going to have enough forwards to roll nine scary guys before we start getting to their fourth line. And well, do they roll 12 deep? Are they more of an 11? Are they more of a 10? How much does your fourth line really play? I think with money being more in the system like we’re going to see going forward, I think it’s going to put a lot of teams in a position where they’re going to find ways to get an extra scoring forward in their mix where if you can tuck a 15 goal guy on your fourth line like the Stars did, per se, like with Genny Dadov last year, that’s going to put you in a really advantageous position because you can never have enough offense. Yes, defense is important. Yes, goalending is important. But as we move further and further into an offense first era like we’ve seen over the last 5 to 10 years, you can never have enough offense. And then it is time to take one last break on today’s show. When we come back, I’m going to lay it out real simple. Why I like Jeff Skinner’s game, why it will translate well for the Oilers, even if it’s not in a big role. Coming up next on today’s edition of Locked On Oilers. Thank you to everyone who is hanging out on this Monday edition of Lockdown Oilers. If you’re like me down in the States, I hope you had a nice Fourth of July weekend. I crammed in a lot over my three days. It’s a nice time of the year. It’s easy to get people together to do things and had a lot of discourse over the last week or so in my friend group talking about the state of the NHL and just where the game is going because my friends, a lot of them are casual hockey fans. They’re going to check in once or twice a week on their favorite teams. If hockeyy’s on, they’ll watch. They’re excited. We’ll go to a bar to watch whatever. But right now, the consensus amongst the casual NHL fan is the Panthers are terrifying. and how can anyone close the gap? And we’ll talk more as the summer goes along about where the Oilers fit in the pecking order. I think the Western Conference is shaping up to be a real real murderers row of teams. I think Vegas adding Mitch Mner, and I know there are going to be people who always scoff at the idea of Mitch Mner being a special hockey player, but Mitch Mner’s on a Hall of Fame trajectory right now where if he plays at his averages for another five or six years, he’s going to hit 1,200, maybe even as many as 1300 career points, maybe win a Stanley Cup with the Vegas Golden Knights, probably win a gold medal with Canada in the Olympics either next year or in 2030. And if that’s the case, you’re talking about a special player. Can the Canucks bounce back? What are the Flames going to stall in their retool or are they going to take a step forward? What’s the Central look like? What does Winnipeg, Dallas, Minnesota, Colorado do this year? Is Nashville a candidate to bounce back in spite of some of the weird moves they’ve made. With all of that said, the Oilers are going to enter next season with a less talented forward group than last year. Their defense will be better. I I have no reservation about saying that going into the year with Jake Walman in their top four. And look, as much as we all know Darnell Nurse is making too much money for what he is, it was reported that the Oilers did ask amongst Ell um Elliot Friedman reported the Oilers asked Adam Henrik, Darnell Nurse, Victor Arbertson if any of them would be interested in being moved because they had no trade protections. Only Victor Arbertson said he would be okay with that. So knowing that at least for one more year and Darnell Nurse I believe his no trade becomes a no a limited no trade in spring of 2027. So the Oilers are a ways away from being able to move that deal. Even in spite of that I think there is a world where they can squeeze some manageable hockey out of Darnell Nurse. I think it’s going to be very frustrating as time moves on that they’re going to need to play him in a sheltered, reduced role for someone making as much money as he is, who is supposed to be one of the team’s better players, but they’re going to need to manage that situation going forward to get the best hockey out of him. I think when you are talking about kicks at the can, throws at the dart board, whatever metaphor you want to use, talking about next year, I think the Oilers are going to end up adding at least one, if not two players at the trade deadline. We’ll see as far as goalie goes. I and look real quick. I know I haven’t talked about this on the show yet because I really am kind of repulsed at the thought, but should the Oilers seriously consider signing Carter Hart, I would I look, I don’t think there is a world where any NHL team should even be remotely interested in signing Carter Hart. He is two years removed from playing professional hockey. The allegations regardless of the outcome of that legal case are aborant and the Oilers do not need this type of negative attention around the team. There is enough of that already just by Stan Bowman being the team’s general manager and the lack of remorse and candandor in said lack of remorse from Bowman about his role in the 2010 Chicago Blackhawk stuff. So, with all of that said, the Oilers right now have about 300 grand in cap space. You can bury, I believe it’s up to $1.2 million in cap space in the AHL. They have a number of guys who are candidates for that. Whether that’s a Max Jones, whether that’s a David toack, if it’s a Kaspari Kaepern going on waiverss type deal, Matthew Savo and Curtis Lazar, both candidates to push for lineup spots. Jeff Skinner is good enough to be one of the Oilers’s nine best forwards. I think that’s the biggest pull for me here that McDavid, Dry Cidle, Hyman, Nan Hopkins, unequivocally the Oilers five best forwards. Beyond that, it becomes a conversation Jeff Skinner or Maani. I can make an argument Jeff Skinner is a better hockey player right now. I can make an argument that Jeff Skinner will directly lead to more goals for the Oilers than Mapani will. Now, I think Mjapani is a little bit more of a well-rounded hockey player. I think he’s more defensively responsible. I think in a world where you play him and Pod Kohl’s and with Leon turns into what they had last year effectively, but even better because Mapani is a better player than Kaspari Kain, he might be a better player than what Victor Arvdson is at this stage of his career. Even though I think that’s more of a style problem as to why Arverson didn’t click as well with dry cidle as per se that Kain or Pod Coulson did. But sitting here now down that left side, you don’t know what you’re getting from Trent Frederick. And look, I don’t want to rag on the guy too much for his playoffs because he was dealing with that ankle injury and was very clearly not even close to 100%. But his mobility was severely limited. They did not get enough out of him to justify the contract that 8 years $3.8 million he ended up getting. And I think anytime you have the capacity to add more offense to your team, you need to seriously consider it. I think the Oilers will once again be a pretty solid defensive team in the regular season. I think they their defensive question marks will largely be resolved through their style of play. You saw them adapt to more of a cyclebased approach last year over the course of the regular season to make up for losing Dylan Holloway, Warren Fogle, and Ryan Mloud all in one off season. A lack of foot speed means less transition play. You got to do more dump and chase. And I do think the Oilers didn’t find the right fit for Jeff Skinner, at least in part because of that. And look, is this episode largely because I just like Jeff Skinner, the guy, and I think he’s a good player, and the Oilers need more good players. Of course, I don’t think Jeff Skinner is a fit for the Oilers. I don’t think the Oilers would seriously consider bringing him back. I think Jeff Skinner has a role to play on a good hockey team this upcoming season. I think the longer he waits, I think the more likely it is he signs during training camp. I think there are disadvantages to that. I think there are advantages to that. I will say I think he’s a prime candidate for a flip situation. You know, sign with Anaheim, San Jose, Chicago. You sign with a stinky team. You get a lot more minutes. You get a little bit of a shooting bender. Maybe you sneak onto a first power play unit. You get put in a more advantageous position to put up counting stats. And maybe that makes you a better player going forward. Or it gives you the appearance of being one and that entices a contender to take a shot on you at the deadline as a third line left wing or maybe a 13th forward who rotates in depending on the schedule. And look at this stage of his career. I don’t know what Jeff Skinner is looking for. If he just wants to win, if he wants to try and get one more two or threeear contract at like four or five million, I think there’s a path to that. if he signs with a bad team and just wants to put up stats and then get flipped at the deadline and then reset his market next summer. I think that’s what he wanted to do last year when he signed with the Oilers. And of course, that ultimately did not come to fruition. But the Oilers could do far worse than adding Jeff Skinner to this forward group, which does have question marks, especially on the wings. But that will do it for this Monday edition of Locked On Oilers. I want to thank everyone that made locked on Oilers their first listen of the day. Locked on Oilers is a part of the Locked On podcast network, your team every day. Be sure to subscribe to the show wherever you get your podcast or over on YouTube. Be sure to check out Locked on NHL and Locked on NHL game night, which is starting next season 2526 game previews with the Edmonton Oilers and me starting things off later this week. I will talk to you guys tomorrow. Until then, let’s go Oilers.

Jeff Skinner remains unsigned as NHL free agency hits week two. Could the Edmonton Oilers bring him back for another shot at a depth scoring role? On today’s episode of Locked On Oilers, Nick Zararis explains why Skinner’s first stint didn’t work, why the underlying numbers with Connor McDavid were better than you remember, and why Edmonton still needs one more top-nine forward.

0:00 Jeff Skinner’s potential return to Oilers

5:52 Skinner’s initial struggles in Edmonton

11:29 Advantages of signing later in free agency

16:34 Oilers’ current lineup and forward needs

22:08 Oilers’ defense and goaltending situation

26:13 Skinner’s fit and potential role on Oilers

Could Jeff Skinner Return to the Edmonton Oilers? Why It Didn’t Work and Why It Still Could

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