Why Paolo Banchero & the Orlando Magic Could SHOCK the NBA in 2026
I kind of want to go back to the playoffs. Obviously, we seen what we seen throughout the regular season. Both of those guys had spectacular regular seasons, especially at 22 and 23 years old. Paulo 22, France 23. But in the playoffs, remember how they both raised their levels against the Boston Celtics. Paulo damn near averaged almost 30 and 10. It was 29 when you said he was playing better than Tatum. Yeah, I remember you said Yeah, I remember you said that. But Paulo was averaging 29, eight rebounds, four assist. Fron 25, five rebounds, six assists. They both rose their games in the playoffs. Now, if thatās an implico and 20 age wise and year 24 for France, I could see I could see something similar to that. Do you care about how your food is made, Ron? Do you care about Boston? Yes. The Boston Celtics. Yes. Yes. I hear you. So, hereās the thing. Donāt you, P? Yeah, I do. I do. And And thatās why Iām going to say this. How did he get the 29 points against No, I donāt care about that. Celtics. I care all about that. Oh, are you going to you going to say youāre going to say shooting variance? Oh, damn. It is shooting variance. I I do want to say that this is a 32% look. One of these two things is true. Okay. A 32% three-point shooter became a 44% three-point shooter. So, is this just backto-back years of shooting variance? Cuz it happened last year. Hold on. Hold on. [ __ ] Itās Itās 14 games, yo. Itās 13 games. I remember what you said about Desmond Bane. I remember what you said about Desmond Bane over the last couple postseason. Yesterday, he did. Paulo Bancera has played 12 playoff games. Yeah, he has shot 40% from three in both playoff series, 44% this year. Yeah, if you are going to be concerned about Desmond Bane and his streak of 28%, you better be saying Paulo Banker is a 40% three-point shooter in the playoffs. Just for logical consistency, I I donāt care. I I donāt care if you fall off. I mean, I donāt care. Iām Iām not Iām not going to give you credit for Wait, what am I trying to say here? Yeah, Iām Iām a negatively oriented person, so Iām going to cook you for for falling off in the playoffs, but Iām not going to give you any credit for rising. So, thatās what Iām saying. What? What? Pig, no way. Youāre supposed to be awesome. If if youāre the if if youāre the best player, youāre supposed to be awesome in the play. The right answer could have just been it was a small sample size on both sides. And I was probably a bit wrong to overreact to Desmond Baneās shooting percentages over a 10ame sample. That was the right answer. Not if you shoot well from three in the playoffs, but you donāt do that in the regular season. Iām not gonna praise you. Like thatās a insane thing to say. Iām sorry. All Iām saying the right answer is he was getting busy. Thatās the right answer for two backto-back years at 21 and 22. So what are we supposed to expect for 23, 24, 25, 26? Efficiency does go down. Efficiency does go down in the playoffs. Typically defenses gear up. Your numbers should go down a little bit. They shouldnāt go down a lot of it, but they shouldnāt go down. And then when Pauloās numbers go up, theyāre fake. Hold on. But all his numbers did not go up. Mr. Mars, some of his numbers went down. Okay, that efficiency inside the arc went down. Efficiency for mid-range went down around the paint went down. So, he becomes a completely different player in the playoffs. So, one of these two things is true. Number one, shooting varants. Number two, heās a freaking superstar in the playoffs. Heās like an ultimate playoff riser. Cool. I donāt know which one of those sides you believe on. Number two, this guy, when I watch him some games, I really do see the seeds of a top five player in the league, top 10 player. It really does look that way. I think heās not good on defense, but heās capable. But the numbers tell me that for three straight years, the Orlando Magic, actually, for 10 straight years, frankly, so this predates Paulo, have been a bottom five offense. The numbers also tell me that for three straight years of his career in the regular season, this team has been better with him on the bench. So now, see that thatās where that thatās confusing to me. Yeah, that that doesnāt make any sense to me. Whenever I hear that, you know, the the Jokic minutes or the minutes when heās off the It makes sense. It just doesnāt it doesnāt mean it might not apply to this. What the numbers imply isnāt the reality, but it makes sense why the numbers are that way in. Why are the numbers that way? Um, a lot of itās to do with lineup. I think France just fits better with the bench units than Paulo does. Heās also a way better defender than um heās also their best player, but yeah, we know that. Okay, you aināt going to get much objection from me. I I love France, but Iām not here to Iām not here to make that claim or whatever right now. But I just think in terms of the fit of Paulo with the bench unit or France with the bench unit, France fits better. And then the defensive, there is a falloff when France is on the floor. I mean, when Pauloās on the floor without France and some of the guys they put around him and they also put Paulo out there with lineups that arenāt as advantageous because they view him as being able to floor raise an offense to a better degree. So, he also gets put with the lesser lineups. But I think we all agree the Magic arenāt a better team without Paulo. They are not. I I agree with that. So, thatās why I say the numbers what they imply isnāt the reality, but you can explain why somewhat the numbers are the way they are. But also, some of it is just flaws within Pauloās game. thing that he needs to figure out. But when youāre talking about superstars, typically it goes the other way, right? So again, ju just just like his super, you know, just like his super Jaylen Brunson this year statistically. But for the most part, yeah. Well, thatās kind of my point. Itās like typically when youāre talking about Joic, Shay, etc., it would be very weird to see a situation where their team is better with the I think in the playoffs the Thunder were better without Shay, I think. Letās not letās not talk about that, okay? cuz because thatās not thatās not part of my selective bias as to what I want to talk about. Iām trying to have an objective conversation. If you trying to get the agenda off, then go for it. But Iāll just stay quiet. You you save your objectivity for, you know, hoop talk. Hoop talk podcast. All right. My fault. Go ahead. Go ahead. Wait a minute. Objectives choice. Really quickly, my fault. My fault. So the limited time that SJ was off the floor, OKC was better with him being off the floor. Is that what Iām saying? In the playoffs, I think in the playoffs. I donāt want to lie to people. Iāll try. Okay. So, like people would people will hear that and the idea will be like they donāt need him at all. Even though when they went up against that Memphis team and they blew them out and I donāt think SGA should have came back in that game to be honest with you because I donāt think they needed him that game which happens where you end up jumping on a team and you might not necessarily need a guy your main guy for that specific game, but the idea that Oklahoma City is better without SGA, please donāt buy into that cuz Yeah, of course. Thatās why Iām saying like the what the numbers imply. Yeah. isnāt the reality in small samples, especially like playoff runs, like it can be wonky. So, like Iām not saying compare that to Pauloās 3 years of data. Like obviously with the three years of data, thereās more to it than Shayās 200 minutes off the court in the playoffs. So, samples mean a mean a big thing. But Iām just saying, wouldnāt everyone agrees the Magic arenāt better without PA? They are not. No question that they are not. And what what Iām trying to make sense of with with you guys when it comes to France, what what whatās moving you more with France than with Paulo? Is it the shot selection? Is it the defense? Because defense is a huge part of it. I donāt think Paulo is awful defensively, but I also donāt think France is Giannis defensively neither. I mean, I saw this yāall stay quiet. But France is a hell of a defender. I think he I do think Y competes on the defensive end. hollow. I mean, to be on that Orlando Magic team with guys like Isaac, right, and France and Suggs, I mean, you have to be able to compete. And thatās what Iām looking for more than anything, right? Iām looking for him to compete. And I feel like he competes a lot more plays than you guys give him credit for. The thing that I need to see improvement on with Paulo is one, like you just talked about in the playoffs, the shot selection is different. he gets to the rim more in the playoffs than he does in the regular season, which means that he can get to the strike because the the the whistle might be a little bit different in the playoffs. So, you see things different in the playoffs. Now, as far as the long ball, okay, he might get crowded at the long ball a little bit long a little bit more in the playoffs than he would in the regular season. He might get crowded in the mid post and in the mid-range. He might get doubled a little bit more. Heās looking at different Heās looking at different looks. But to his point, I mean to to his defense, heās a lot more aggressive in the playoffs than he is in the regular season, too. I have to say that about Paul. Sure. Thatās such a thatās such a good sign, though. You know, when itās when itās really time to hoop, this dude be ready to ball. Same thing with Fron, too. I think they they got good problems over there. And I I also believe, and you know, Ox has alluded to this. I think these two dudes, both I donāt even want to get into the the arguing whoās better out of them two. They on the same team. I agree. I believe that they are about to go crazy this year. I think like kind of the jump similar that we seen to OKC last year, how they just came and just dominated the league and it might be two years ago more so for these guys. Okay, you remember how OKC two years ago how they kind of went from they went from playing team and then they were the one seed the next to just smacking everything. Thatās what weāre about to see with these dudes. I I I think we going to see that with it would take a long They donāt have a Shay. I think we can agree on that. Wait, wait, wait, wait. What do you mean? What do you mean? What do you mean? They donāt have that. Oh, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. What do you mean heās saying heās saying a player of that caliber? They donāt have a Shay Gilas Alexander caliber. No, they donāt. Ron, Ron, donāt do this. Ron, donāt go. Hold on. Hold on. This is all I want to say. Iām not about to go crazy. Iām listening. Iām listening. Iām not saying they have a top five player. Iām not saying Paulo is as good offensively as Shay. However, I believe this year Paulo establishes his dominance offensively. I I believe and this is not in comparison to Shay. Please just get Shay out your mind while Iām making this statement. I believe he establishes himself as a top 10 15 offensive player in the league where I I might be 30 per night. I might He averaged 26 last year. Itās not crazy to say he averages anywhere from 26 to 30 this year. That right there he establishes himself as a number one option. Iām slaughtering the league now. Keep it real, bro. Some some people would rather deal with Shay than deal with Paulo. And thatās not saying heās better than Shay. I would never say that. I would never say that unless I believe you. I think a lot of people would rather deal with with Shane than Paulo. When Pauloās locked in, when heās like, Iām just killing you. When Paulo realizes heās 610, 250, like, yeah, I wouldnāt no one would want to guard that. Itās like when people say they donāt want to guard Melo, Iām not saying Paulo is mellow, but like at some point the physical size and dominance of someone does play a factor into what youād rather guard. Morris, thereās no reason. They donāt have a shade that thatās 44% believe Morris, especially after we just broke down this team. We talked about their defense. We talked about them bringing guys back. We talked about their offseason additions. I think Orlando was a great team this year. They were decimated by injuries. And thereās no asterisk. I donāt believe in passing out asterisks, but thereās no reason for us to believe that this Orlando Magic team is not just as good as OKC this year. I have I have no reason to believe that. No reason whatsoever. None. France is better than J. You never know. Yeah. You never know. You know what Iām saying? Like Like when you you know how I like to do Letās put the best five players. Letās put the best five players in the game right here. Three of them dudes are on Orlando. So if I So I So if I line up Orlando starting five, I got Suggs at Oh, my bad. No, no, my bad. My bad. Oh, Jasmine Bane. Jasmine Bane. My fault. forgot about better than Desmond Bane. Iām sorry. I forgot about that. I did. I did. So, forget that. But if if the Yeah, listen. Iām I donāt I donāt want to I donāt want to do that because Iām a chat hater. I donāt want to do that. But look, even in that top that top three though, you know what Iām saying? Like like so I got it go Shay. It go Shay. It go I got Shay at one Apollo on his ass. Mars. So JDubās not in that tier two because thatās been a conversation thatās going around thatās frown and Paulo are better than Jaydub and Iām not bringing that out for no reason. I donāt know if you guys are on Twitter but the Paulo vers Jdub conversation has been very bad. It shouldnāt be with all the respect to you is Paulo and France and the same tier together and then Jdub thatās your opinion if weāre going tier I want to put some respect on JDub. I want to put some respect on Jaydub as far but heās okay not different tier but heās below them like to you heās below those guys. Where do you guys Yeah. Theyāre better than Jay Dub for sure. So as an allp pro and all these defenders Bane and like I said check better than Bane but they do completely different things and Desmond Bane is he bro heās cold bro I like Desmond Bane a lot. This is their defense like Orlandoās defense is is there. Orlandoās defense defense from they could put the ball in the basket as well. Bro, Orlando. Orlando. I have no reason to believe that theyāre not better than that. Theyāre not just as good as OKC. And I know they just won a championship, and I want to put respect on that championship. They are the defending champs, but I have no reason to believe that a healthy Orlando team wonāt knock them off in in in a in a in the finals. No reason whatsoever. You do have reason, Ox. And the reason why you the reason hereās why you have hereās why you have reason, Ox. That Orlando Magic team, barring injury, theyāre not nearly as connected as that Oklahoma City team one through eight, one through nine. Why you looking at me like Iām crazy? Letās just say for the sake of argument that you see what Orlando was doing last year. I did see what Orlando did you not see that this team almost won 70 games? Are you serious right now, Ox? Did you not see that they had the league leading scorer? Did you not see that they had what almost three guys make the only league defensive team? This unit and Orlandoās going to have the same Orlando got defenders, too. F France and Jaylen Suggs are gonna are gonna be all defensive this year if and donāt forget that guy Jonathan Isaac off the bench. Okay, so he wonāt be all defense because he doesnāt play enough minutes, but heās definitely of that caliber. He doesnāt he doesnāt play enough defense. I see it when the chat saying Orlando canāt shoot. Desmond Bane is going to is going to knocking [ __ ] down all season. Heās way better than KFC. Letās not letās not internal development. France will shoot the ball this year. Iām not going to say that. Youāre not going to say why not say say it Mars. I mean thatās the thatās the idea. Could shoot it as a rookie and then he changed his jumper like get back to where he going to get back. But the idea of this Orlando team as good as they are as as good as they are with the starting five of Suggs, Desmond Bane, Paulo France and Wendell Carter. Thatās your five right there. You need a new big thatās that thatās your five right there. Right. going up against Oklahoma City whoās got eight, nine guys that are all connected, whoās on defense, elite. Not only are they not not only are they elite, not only are they elite defensively, there arenāt really many holes like Shay is the guy weāre going after defensive. Thatās who we that thatās who weāre looking for. Wendell Carter on the other hand, I mean, I think Hartinstein can handle him. And and I look at and I look at Oklahoma Cityās front line. I still donāt understand why Jaylen Williams didnāt play more in the in the finals. Even though he did play in the rest of the playoffs, I donāt understand why he didnāt play more in the finals because when he went to that triple big lineup when he played against Denver, it worked and it worked and and it worked mightily. With that being said, this Oklahoma City team, they got nine, 10, even 11 guys at some point. this this Orlando team who hasnāt really proven that going into the playoffs or going deep into the playoffs that they could be viable. I think this Oklahoma City team mops them dudes. I donāt think that they beat them. I think they mocked them dudes. Five games top smoke them dudes. The difference between both games. Itās going to be 92 to 88. Thatās what I think Wait, whatā you say Mars? Neither team scoring on each otherās defense is what I was saying. Chill. I Okay. Or maybe I just love Orlando. See, thatās the thing. Just because I like and thatās fine. I I donāt really I donāt really drink soda, but just because I like Pepsi donāt mean I hate Coke. You know what Iām saying? Letās Letās not do that. But what I what I what I what I am saying, Chills, I think sometimes See, I I think you base it more off of whatās already happened like or OKC was this good last year. But I donāt think youāre taking into account that teams a lot a lot changes over the summertime. A lot changes just by just simple moves being made and saying young dudes getting a year older and and and hurt guys getting healthy. Thatās thatās thatās all Iām saying. And I think I think we need to acknowledge the fact that Orlando got exponentially better. Sure. They got exponentially better just by getting healthy and and making additions. You know what Iām saying? So itās they did two things. They made offseason additions and their their hurt guys are getting healthy. Mo Vagner, he can play this year. Sure. You know what Iām saying? And I I just I just think that matters. And if not, thatās why they brought up Anthony Black yet, who I love. Yeah, thatās why Ty donāt they got Donāt forget they got they finally got Cole Anthony out the way. They got Markeel folks out the way. I tried to tell yāall. I tried to tell Iām trying I tried to tell yāall them dudes are bums. I tried to tell yāall with Man, Markeel was nice for the Kings. What are you doing? Oh my god. Yo, but before we before we get to this crunch time chat segment, chill. The only thing I want to say to you is they played very good against the Celtics. They lost in five and the Celtics the Celtics for the most part handled him. But Iām saying chill. How how different does that series look if you insert a healthy Movy Jaylen Suggs and then you drop Desmond Bane on that team? They win one more game. This is this is the team that you believe would have won the NBA finals. the Celtics team that you believe that you believe weāre going to go back to back. Sure. Iām just saying if they if they and I know thatās not obviously the end all be all. Oh, if they could take the Celtics to seven that means that they beat the Thunder. Iām not saying that. Iām just saying that that team looks a little different and that series looks completely different as well. And Iām not going to argue that point, Ron. What I am going to argue to to what Ox was just talking about the very thing that you loving about this Oklahoma City team, Iām sorry, about this Orlando team in terms of health. I love I saw them big love. Thatās exactly because what we what we get wrapped up in a lot of times, especially in free agency, we get wrapped up in teams making moves in free agency and not thinking about like Jay Dubās gonna be better next year. Jay Dub aināt gonna be the same player that he was last season. I donāt know that chatās not going to be the same player that he was last. Of course you donāt know that. But but itās interesting that you know that France is going to be better next year. I said that either. No. Mars said is he gonna be a better shooter? I said I canāt say that. I donāt know. So then so then Ox if heās coming back the same player that he was last year better than Jay Dub. Still better than Jay Dub who coming back who I think is coming back better because he wasnāt the same player that he was last year that he was the year before that or his rook season. Heās a better player and well chill. Can I can I just real quick? I just want to make sure that I I donāt get misconstrued. I never mentioned I never mentioned player development in any of this because I donāt I canāt I can never say whoās going to get better, whoās going to get worse. All I talk about is getting healthy and and making additions. Thatās it. So, by getting healthy and making additions, thatās all. I I already thought France France was better than Jub. So, if they come back the same, I still think heās better than JDub. Thatās all. And and and to your point again to counter that, Ox, youāve said to me countless times, in a year things change. Not in a year. In six months things change. Not just in six months, a month things change. Right? In six days things change. So by next year you donāt think Jayd Dub is better than France. You donāt think Jayd Dub is better than Paulo? What happens if Jub comes back next year and heās sharper than what he was last year which makes this Oklahoma City team even better? What happens when SGA comes back and heās added a different aspect to his game, which he didnāt have last year, which makes him better? What happens if Chad puts on 10 extra pounds and heās jumping higher and heās better around the rim and a better rebounder? These are the things that Iām thinking about when I think about units in terms of getting better. Iām not just thinking about adding Giannis to the crew or adding Jimmy Butler to the crew. Iām thinking about I already wrong got the ingredients in the refrigerator. Cook it. Make it better. And I and when I think about this Orlando team, sure they have everything necessary to win, right? They have everything necessary to win in the future. this Oklahoma City team, what they have and then that getting enhanced. And I aināt talking about adding anything. Iām talking about those guys getting better makes them even more viable. Yeah. If that if that all happens, chill, then Iām Iām wrong. [Music]
The Panel discuss the Orlando Magic going into the 2026 NBA Season and what they expect from the star duo of Paolo Banchero and Franz Wagner.
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9 comments
The magic got some motion
They ain't doing nothing 1st round exit again ššš
PENN NEED TO STOP TALKING
Pen just yaps
THE DISRESPECT!!!!!
I Have never seen a team be so disrespected a month after winning the chip , Orlando canāt tie OKCs sneakers this is nasty
I donāt understand why they keep inviting pen
when it was okc makin the leap: These dudes are too young ion believe it yet
when the magic get desmond bane: These dudes are just as good as okc!
āWait what am I tryna say hereā šššš
Magic the most overrated team in the league lol.