Minnesota Vikings all-time BUST team
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The forehead sometimes the neck exposed. Yeah. So sports dad will be wearing this all training camp long. Oh my god. Dude, people laughed at Brad Childress. He wore a bucket hat. Went to the NFC Championship game. I’m tired of my forehead being burned. or yeah, we want you to be safe. We don’t want the the elements to prevent Jud’s camp notes for from delivering for the audience. So, I’m very excited. I’m preparing already. Yeah. So, yeah. Tuesday, next week will be the press conferences. Then Wednesday, so like starting halfway through next week, it’s just going to be a barrage of Jud’s camp notes for like a month. Uh today, we will give you that 53man alltime Vikings bust 53man roster presented in part by Quick Trip. If you’re if you’re down and out cuz you’re a bust, you’re looking to start your day the right way, Quick Trip can help brighten your week. Oh, most definitely. And you know, Sports Dad uh from SLP to TCL, that’s a long drive, right? Sports Dad gets tired. 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And then by popular demand, the all bust 53man roster and the parameters we so we went on Mackie and Jud uh our our OG score podcast last week and we agreed on some parameters here that a bust meaning like a wide gap between the expectation and the actual performance. So could be a draft pick. We got this guy in the first round. He’s supposed to do this, but he only did this. So that would be a bust. Could be a trade, could be a free agent, maybe there’s another avenue I’m not thinking about. Uh, but basically like the wide gap between what you expected from that player and what they delivered are the basic parameters here. And we have a 53man roster to fill out, right? Which is why the Jag list was guys that could actually play but weren’t stars. Yeah. But I think there was some confusion. Well, why why aren’t some of the bus on your Jag list? because they were busts. Very important. Yeah. And there there’s definitely some like there’s a few guys that kind of walk the line of are they a Jag or are they a bust? Do they there’s actually some guys who were Jags that were in consideration for the all quarter century team because the Vikings were thin at some certain positions. Yes. Yes. Exactly. So yeah, Declan just popped up. It’s a It’s an empty roster right now, but by the end of this, we will fill out three quarterbacks, three running backs, a fullback, six wide receivers, three tight ends, nine offensive linemen, and we could tweak this if needed, but just generally, five edge rushers, five down linemen, five linebackers, six cornerbacks, four safeties, three specialists. Uh-huh. The long snapper discussion is going to be an interesting one. Yes. And then a coaching staff of head coach, offensive coordinator, defensive coordinator, and special teams coordinator. So Jud, you want to start quarterbacks? You you start us wherever you want. Yeah, let’s start with quarterbacks. It’s always the most fun. I mean, the the slam dunk of slam dunks here, right? The poster child for this entire exercise is one Christian Ponder. Yeah, he would be the biggest quarterback draft bust in franchise history. Yes, Dean. Uh I I still want to nominate Josh Freeman. Yeah, Josh Freeman because again like he only played one game if I remember right, but he came in as a former first round draft pick. He had put up some numbers. He was available. The Vikings grabbed him. They started him right away like he had be walked in the door does a press conference over conference call and you could hear Rick Spielman in the background. Oh, you know what that was? So I found out about that. That was actually done by uh so so he did do he did do a conference call. Okay. But the conference call didn’t have the whispering. The Vikings someone who shall remain nameless who I believe is no longer employed by the team. Not because of this incident recorded it and that’s what they put out. So like that was a Vikings record. That’s why he that’s why you could hear the whispering there but not on the call. Wait, wait, wait. So wait. So the conference call was it was a live conference call, right? But he was but he was whispering. It wasn’t picked up by the conference call itself. It was being taped recorded by the Vikings and they put it out without I guess understanding that you could hear Rick and you love it here. Hey, tell them how much you love purple. It brings out your eyes. Tell them how much you want to start right away and be thrown into the fire. Yes. If there was a if there was a top five buffoonery moment, that’s definitely in it. Um, okay. Yeah, those are those are two viable big board names for sure. I’ll throw out Donovan McNab. Yep. Cuz you brought you brought him in. He had that one weird year in Washington, so you kind of knew he wasn’t prime Donovan McNab. Uh, but but you thought that he was going to give you something more than like six atrocious games. Yeah. Yeah, he was he was overweight and kind of checked out just you you did not get the full Donovan McNab experience and then it launched you prematurely into the Christian Ponder era in 2011 and God rest soul do we have to consider Tvaris Jackson second round pick second round pick yeah yeah well I would say for okay we need three quarterbacks ponder for sure yep I kind of love the Josh Freeman angle just a bolt of lightning and it wasn’t like you expected did him to be a 10ear starting quarterback. You kind of thought, “Oh, interesting. Oh, he’s going to come in here and and they threw him into the fire. He threw like he was like, was it 18 of 45 or something?” It’s like one of the worst quarterback performances of all time or did it was like 50. Did they I think it was like 50 passes. Yeah, it’s like 20 for 53 or something. Which absolutely was set that dude up to fail beyond belief. Like it’s like there’s his first start. Hey, throw 50 passes against the Giants in the Meadowlands. And then so not only did they put him in a terrible place, set him up to fail, threw him into the fire, he fails, and then they’re like, “Yeah, we’re good.” Yep. Exactly. I don’t think we need to see any more of this guy. It’s good. Peace out. So I I think that’s fun. And then it’s kind of unless there’s other names that we aren’t thinking about. I mean, you could go back like Jim McMahon. I don’t think he was a bust. They went to the playoffs with him in 93. Yeah. And I don’t think the expectations were, you know, were the same there. Like, like the fact that the fact McNab showed up out of shape and didn’t really give a damn, I thought was far more of an indictment. So, I would say Tavvaris or McNab cuz those 90s, there’s a lot of guys who ran through here in the 90s, but I don’t know that they cared as little as Donovan did. Yeah. What about I’m just just trying to think throughout like late late 90s, early 2000s. Um even like like Brett Favre was awesome the first year, total bust the second year, but you know, actually that just to skip ahead for a second for wide receivers, did you have second stint Randy Moss on your big boards? Oh, I didn’t think of that. I like that. Okay, let’s let’s put we’ll put a pin in that. Come back. I like that. So, and then like throughout the I mean you had early Vikings, you had because I do want to give some and we’re probably going to need to go back in some of these cases to fill these positions, but the first half of Vikings history was mostly Fran Tarkington, mostly Tommy Kramer. Neither one of those guys were at all busts. They were two of their great quarterbacks in franchise history. So, it wasn’t really until the ‘9s that you started spinning the wheel of random quarterbacks, but then they they hit on most of them. like Warren Moon had three good seasons and Cunningham, Jeff George, those guys didn’t reach e even if they didn’t succeed as expected, they didn’t reach the bust level that a guy like McNab did. And plus, like in ‘ 69, they go to the Super Bowl with Joe Cap, right? So like that was good. Bob Lee played some and he wasn’t great, but he s I I think we’re in a the sweet spot of busts here. Yeah. And like Sam Bradford they traded a first round pick for. So the expectations were high but he led the league in completion percentage and some great games. When when we get to Moss too there’s a because I thought of this there’s an interesting conversation about can you be considered a bust if at first you succeeded. Bernard Barryian is a classic example. So like Bernard Barryian got here and had a couple of good good years. At the end he was a complete bust. But I don’t know like with Favre I don’t I think his one good year tied to the next bad year can’t make you a bust. Agreed. Like you got to be a bust the whole time. It’s all part of the discussion for sure. I think there’s like that should be considered. Mhm. That if you were if you were that much of a disaster your second year and I think it was considered. We brought it up. But going to the NFC Championship game and delivering two or three of the great moments in Vikings history, I’m talking about Favre, not really Barry as much, right? Probably outweighs Plus you knew that you were like you were signing up for one year and you were kind of going year to year. Then you you brought him back on another one-year contract and um you know you were you were tempting fate. So all right so ponder Josh Freeman and I would say Donovan McNab edges out Tavvarus Jackson. You know what’s like the Vikings at least like went to the playoffs with Tavvarus Jackson. Yeah. Yeah. You know Gus Farat and Brett Favre started most of the games. I was going to say they really went to the playoffs with Gus Farat, but yes, I I’m fine with that cuz McNab was I mean that was a that was a disaster of epic proportions. Okay, so we got our we got our quarterback room then. Look at us. And don’t forget through this. Don’t forget too McNab McNab’s utter failure forced the early entrance of Christian Ponder in that I think it was a Sunday night game against the Bears. Yeah. And so the snowball started to roll prematurely because McNab didn’t have his act together. So, I’m good with this. Yep. Okay, that brings us to running backs and we can toss fullback into the conversation here, too. I’ll throw out an old school name. Back in 1987, yeah, I’ve got him. The Minnesota Vikings with the 14th overall pick selected out of Penn State University, running back DJ Doer. Yep. And in four years with the Vikings, he never accumulated more than 257 rushing yards in any individual season. He’s a shoein. Okay. What like we Declan and I don’t really remember the the DJ Doer era. They won a bunch of games despite that whiffed draft pick, but uh what what happened there? Um he was just an epic epic bust and that a that actually caused the the trade for in many ways Hershel Walker a couple years after that because they didn’t have that position solidified if you can believe it cuz this has not been true for the majority of your guys especially Declan’s following the Vikings but there was a there was a time period between like Chuck Foreman and Terry Allen but more so Robert Smith Mhm. Mhm. where this was a wasteland of running backs. Like Ted Brown was fine, but then they drafted Doure, first round 14th pick. He’s a failure. They then trade for Hershel and we’re all like, “Oh my god, Hershel Walker’s going to play here.” And and of course his north south style of play did not fit the West Coast that Bernzie used at all. So yeah, DJ Doer to me is a top this list in fact probably in franchise history. Wow. Among running backs. Yeah. Okay. Who else belongs? So, we’re putting DJ Doer in for sure. We need two more running backs. Yes. Did we have Was was Michael Bennett on the Jag team? Uh he Michael Bennett did not make the Jag team. He was cuz he ran for a thousand yards at one point. He had he had one good year. One really good year. His rookie year was fine, too, I guess. But yeah, and the 27th overall pick, I’m not sure that qual I mean I don’t know if he’s a bust. I think he’s like in the gray area of a little bit of both to be honest. Well, f first round pick would be high expectations, but he did he did he had he had the one like big season and that kind of gets back to what Jub was saying u which is okay. So overall, did they get the productivity out of Michael Bennett that they probably wanted? No. But they did get 1300 yards in his second year and in a really good rookie season and then things trailed off. So, I think like he barely misses the Jag list. He’s like a little bit better than a Jag. Sure. But he’s also kind of a bust. Yeah, he’s in this weird category. He’s a very weird Yes. He He also played like 10 years in the NFL. He He did actually. Not that that factors in too much. Nice little career. This position is um is difficult which is why I did which is why I did submit when we discussed it earlier the at least thinking about discussing Hershel Walker. Yeah. So yeah that would go back to expectation you thought you were trading for the final piece you’re sitting here correct you’ve gone toe-to-toe with the 49ers backto-back years in the playoffs. You beat them in San Francisco in 87 then they come back right they beat the Vikings in 88. I think that’s the way it went. Um, like either way, you’re tustling with these teams with Washington, with the NerS in the playoffs, and you need that final piece to the puzzle. So, you give up all of these players and all these draft picks, multiple years of first round picks. And he was a good player, but he wasn’t the final piece to the puzzle player. So, yeah, for this exercise, I’m definitely he definitely in on Hersel Walker. in two plus seasons as a Viking, he never rushed for 1,000 yards, had touchdowns, but I think given the expectations, I think he’s a bust. Yeah. And you never won a playoff game with him, which is not like solely his fault, but you know, that was that was the goal. Add him, go win a Super Bowl. That was that was the thought about Bellcow running backs in the late 80s, early 90s. So, okay, Hershel Walker. And then once upon a time back in 2010, the Vikings selected with the 51st overall pick, Toby Gearhart. Yep. Out of Stanford. And now it was kind of a weird pick in some ways because Adrien Peterson was in the middle of his prime. One of the great running backs of all time emerging. They knew they had to replace Chester Taylor. So they thought, let’s put a second round pick on Toby Ghart. You know, I don’t know what their logic was. Maybe they thought they weren’t going to extend Peterson at some point, but uh yeah, dude, he just never he didn’t get a ton of touches, but he also didn’t really earn the right to get more touches, and he only in four years with the Vikings, he only scored uh five touchdowns after being just a machine in Stanford. So, yeah, he definitely qualifies. Uh, Phil, were you at the practice in Mano where the veterans, I forget what Toby had done, but the veterans decided to basically spend the entire practice picking on on him and like roughing him up and it got really unc uncomfortable. Uh, no, I think he definitely also because look, Chester Taylor, even with in fact probably as much with Peterson here, Chester Taylor played this extremely important role. could catch passes. He he could block. He he essentially covered for the things that AP couldn’t do. Yeah. And I think if you look back, I want to say that the Vikings traded with Houston to move up to nab Ghart. So like that was a trade and they thought, okay, we’ve at least replaced or partially replaced Chester. So I would be very comfortable with him being the third and final piece of the running back equation. Okay. So that would mean DJ Doer, Toby Ghart, Hershel Walker are the three running backs. And I’m just trying to think through any other free agents throughout the years that were that were missing. Um any other higher draft picks? I mean, Delvin was a second round pick. He was awesome. Peterson was awesome. Bennett had a 1300 yard season. Lots of Jags, too. A lot of Mo Williams, Ontario Smiths, but Jerick McKinnons. Yeah, there there was there was a lot of good backup guys, but Latavius Murray was solid. Like I I wouldn’t call Latavius Murray a bust. He was very he was very a really good solid player. So yeah, I think I think that’s probably the right one here to round it out. Okay, I have one fullback on my big board, Thomas. Sure. Yeah, that’s a good one. They brought him in, you know, he he wasn’t going to be a super flashy addition, but they brought him in in 2008 as a guy who knew the Andy Reid, Brad Childris sort of West Coast offense cuz he had played a handful of years in Philadelphia. Former Gopher, too, homecoming. He’s coming back. St. Paul. Yeah, he he’s going to be this key piece as like this this blocking fullback. Maybe catch a couple passes here and there. And uh yeah, it did not uh it did not work out that way. He played two games with the Vikings in part because he I think he hid like a foot injury if I remember right and they released him immediately but it was already not going well and so that that became the the excuse cuz I’m guessing that they didn’t or tried not to pay him in full. Yeah, there was something where he had been hurt and like and I don’t know how the doctors in retrospect here, I don’t recall the story how the doctors here missed it, but there was definitely something he had and they said you’re done. It was a it was a five-year contract. I mean, I know those contracts never really live up to five, but he technically signed a five-year deal and it was released in six months. Yeah, there’s a So, I think he was the replacement originally for T- Rich, right? I believe so. Tony played a couple of years here and was great pros pro and Tee comes in and if Depay doesn’t do that and actually plays out that contract, there is no Fahu Tahi. And yeah, then Tahi is the 12th man in the huddle with Taye. You want to go down have been the 12th man? You want to go down this path? I mean, to pay maybe a little more savvy, a veteran, listening to his position coach on the sidelines, staring oddly, not blinking. Yeah. Staring back at the uh the a purple access guys, the Axis Vikings guys. Chip and I are like, “Oh boy, this is not good. He’s staring at us like he wants to kill us.” Let’s do uh wide receivers next year and then we’ll we’ll we’ll come back to tight ends. I think tight end’s going to be a Maybe I’m wrong on this. I think it’s going to be a harder position to fill out, but uh wide receivers, we need six bust wide receivers. Okay, so the two obvious ones, Laquan Treadwell and Troy Williamson. Yeah, without question. Slam dunks. Um, here’s one for consideration. In fact, I’ll give you two. Michael Floyd. I hate one, dude. Yeah. Signed as a free agent in 2017, lived in, if I’m not mistaken, Kyle Rudolph’s basement and uh and drank whatchamacallit all the time. Kombucha. Kombucha. Kombucha. Thank you very much. I I also have this. So, this sort of goes against cuz he did have a good year when he got here, but then he signed a contract, a three-year contract, and there were expectations and he botched it completely. Corin Robinson. Oh, Corin Robinson. Yeah. He got he got arrested a couple times. So, he didn’t like have a good season and then sign a contract and drop off. He had a good good season and then the next time I saw him during training camp, he was in an orange jumpsuit in St. Peter. Well, he was What was it? He was like 100 miles an hour in a 30 or a 40. Yeah. Trying to trying to cut it close down 169. No, he No, it was 55, right? And he was driving down a Honda. I think he dropped his girlfriend off at the airport. had had a couple of glasss of wine after saying that he didn’t drink and uh was doing a hundo and then the cops of course tried to execute a a simple stop and he decided to try and outrun them by getting to Gage dormatory and he got halfway up the hill. He got through St. Peter. He got all the way halfway up the hill before he finally succumbed to the police. You know, he was as a young because that would have been like what ‘ 06? When did he get arrested? 06. Yeah. Okay. I remember a young Phil Mackey was out there for KFXN radio with my little like audio recording device and a microphone with like the station flag on it. And my job was to walk up to these players at the time in 2005 2006 and get them to read liners for like the radio station. Oh god. Hey, it’s Corin Robinson. You’re listening to Vikings football. You know that type of stuff. Oh god. And it it’s it’s just like the bottom of the barrel terrible cuz you’re walking up to these guys, they don’t want to do it. And and I’ll never forget Corin Robinson was one of the nicest, coolest dudes that I ever approached. Mhm. He uh he’s I had this little piece of paper with all the liners written out and he’s got his like training camp stuff on. He’s just just got done probably with the second practice and a two a day sweating and he goes, “Yeah, man. Come on. Let’s let’s go over here.” And he brings me over by the fence so we can like lean up against the fence and he’s like practicing the liners and then I give him the microphone. It could like literally could not have been a better pro. And then like 2 days later, I think it was, he got he got arrested until, and I say this with all seriousness, until Sharper, he was the biggest one to have us all fooled. In 2005, he so he had had the the suspension, the runins with the law, got let go by Seattle, signed by the Vikings. And in 2005, I think we named him what? The good guy, media good guy. and he came in. At the time it was an old raetball court that had been converted to a room for us to work in. He came in, sat in a chair, talked about how he, you know, sobriety was great, how he no longer drank. Like, I have just completely fooled. And of course, then that happened. There it is. So, okay. So, we have we have four wide receivers right now. We need two more. Uh the the four that we have are Corin Robinson, Troy Williamson, Laquan Treadwell, Michael Floyd. Let me let me stump again for second stint Randy Moss. I I love this. I didn’t even think of it. Yep. Traded a third round pick to save your season. Yep. All time bust. Instead, he gets everyone fired. Childress fired like a month later. Tells the crafts, “I’m sorry, Coach Bellich, I love you. Patriots. And this is good because first stint moss and second stint moss are so far apart. So this is perfect. Yeah. I mean, first stint moss is like WR1 on the all quarter century team. But it’s not like Favre, you know, Favre went 2009, unbelievable, 2010 awful. This was a huge gap there. So yes, second stint Moss. I I love this one. A few other names here. So we need one more. I think people are going to be tempted to throw Greg Jennings name out, but if you go back and look, a couple things. Number one, Greg Jennings had Christian Ponder throwing him passes for the well Christian Ponder and Matt Castle in 2013 and then they had a third quarterback in there. It was it was well that was the Freeman year, right? It was Castle, Ponder, and like I think Freeman was 13. I think you’re right. And then in 2014, he had like Matt Castle and then a rookie Teddy Bridgewwater. and he still put up 68 catches for 800 yards, 59 catches for 742. Um, so I would actually put put him aside unless you guys want to fight. And I’d bring up either like Mike Wallace probably belongs more than That’s what I was going to give you. He was supposed to help Teddy stretch the field, right? Yes. And he just he did not appear to, how can I put this very nicely, give a damn. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Jennings he was definitely more of like a vocally a warmer weather guy, right? He he was disappointed to not be Jennings had good intentions it just blew up. And by the way, the Jennings family loved it so much here for 3 years. They still have a home and like spend a bunch of time in the Twin Cities. Nice. His wife has had a like a shop in the North Loop for all these years. So really, they uh Yeah, they planted they planted some Now they might have three other homes for all for I know. He’s still working for Fox. I think he does a little bit. Like, yeah, they bring him on some of those Fox Sports One shows. I’ll throw this name out, too. Jerome Simpson. So, the Vikings signed him coming off a 750 yard season in Cincinnati. And he comes in right away and had like 200 yards his first year. Now, he had a better bounceback second year, but he he lashed out at media Tom Preso. There was that whole incident and he just never quite lived up to like the front flip into the end zone highlight reel stuff in Cincinnati. And his demise here was the was he was pulled o over in Bloomington, right? And didn’t tell the team. Okay. Yeah. And then the team found out and immediately hooked him. So yes, I’m fine with that one. So we need Well, we need to pick one of these guys. Drum Simpson or Mike Wallace? Drum Simpson probably for me. Drum Simpson. Okay. Preso with that. Tom Preso. Okay, I’ll throw him in here. So, we we have the six wide receivers. And now, let’s finish out the skill position here. We’re looking for three tight ends. Three tight ends. Who do you got? I have John Carlson. Yep. Free agent 2012 was going to come in here, join join the old Jud Fun show. It’s time for Jud and Funum. And um yeah, just didn’t do much sports because they know a ton. I also have um I just want to move move on now. I’m sorry I brought that up. Uh I also have Irv Smith. Yeah. Yeah. Second round second round pick. Yeah, we had a lot for him. In uh on John Carlson’s Wikipedia page in his Vikings stint uh excerpt, it says Carlson signed a 5-year $25 million contract with the Vikings. And Paul Allen of KFN Minnesota once said the combination of John Carlson and Kyle Rudolph would be the best tight end combination besides Rob Gronowski and Aaron Hernandez. That is that’s in the Wikipedia page. No, you’re saying Paul Allen gave a slightly too optimistic take about the Minnesota Vikings and was wrong about it. In retrospect, I mean I mean I guess I guess if now I I had to pick a pair, I’d probably pick the the Vikings pair because one of the Patriots pairs was murdering people at the time. Yeah, but he’s also murdering quarterbacks. You know what I’m saying? Opposing linebackers. Oh, man. Uh yeah, I mean, so beyond those two, I’m trying to think of other like free agent tight ends that they took a flyer on. Shenko was a free agent, but he was he wound up being really good. Yeah, he was a bust the first year, but then especially with Favre became outstanding. Were there any other like 1990s little flyers or training camp? Because this this is where the exercise gets a little tough. Yeah, cuz there’s not always an epic draft bust or a big free agent signing. Could you could you go to is there another category here of guys that I know you kind of stopped your big board exercise after second rounders. I did expand mine into like third fourth round and we’ll get to a couple of these guys later. Okay. Where okay like you’re you’re drafting this guy to be a legit contributor on your football team and there was an expectation maybe in training camp. Michael Puit was a fifth round pick and showed some flashes in training camp. Got some Mr. Mano discussion among the local reporters. Yeah. Now, it’s funny cuz that dude is still in the league with Pittsburgh. He’s actually carved out a 10-year NFL career. Good for him. But in Minnesota, he caught like 12 passes over two years and didn’t do anything. But he was a fifth round pick, right? David Morgan was a sixth round pick that you thought, “Boy, that guy looks the part, man. He might Right.” Yeah. I mean, I’m trying to think also if there’s if uh to your point, there were free agents in the Carlson vein who signed here at tight end who didn’t who failed. Who was the guy last year that didn’t even the guy that uh what’s his name? NFC North guy, veteran tight end, the Packer. Yeah, but that that dude had been hurt so much. Like I I think you’re probably I I mean if we have to we definitely can go expand this this beyond the second round. Yeah. Well, there’s a I mean, spoiler alert, there’s there’s a bunch of third fourth rounders that absolutely deserve discussion cuz you thought this was the solution at this position. One fourth rounder in particular that I I’ve got on my offensive lineman. Yes, for 100%. Like that dude should be in and he’s and we will get there. But I think in the absence of a free agent or a trade, we probably have to pick because we got to fill out a 53 here. So, we got to pick like a Michael Puit or a David Morgan. David Morgan was uh he was a sixthround pick in what year was that? 2016. But again, it’s a sixth round pick. Yeah, I have a tough time. Puit was a fifth round pick. Yeah. And he wound up flourishing with other teams. Who are you going to say? I was gonna he’s more of a wide receiver and he didn’t really have a shot in hand to be filled out wide receiver, but Moritz Boeinger. Oh yeah. I mean again like like that’s a that’s an interesting one because he he was one of the most useless draft European draft pick though on purpose. But the league kind of forced the Vikings to Right. Yeah. Um Yeah. Oh, so let’s go with uh at least for now, unless we quickly think of someone else, I guess we should probably go with Michael Puit then. Michael Cole Puit. Yeah, he’s not your Cole, he’s Michael Cole Puit. Yeah, I’m just going through like the ‘9s draft history, too. They they just didn’t until Kyle like Jim Klein Saucer was an early pick. Here’s one for you. Back in 1990, they spent a third round pick on a tight end from Texas A&M in Michigan named Mike Jones. Mike Jones. He played quote unquote two years with the Vikings in 1990 and 1991. He caught two passes for eight yards. Was out of the league after his third year where he went to Seattle. Should we give some love to the old school? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Mike Jones. Mike Jones. 6’3, 255 pound. bust of a tight end. Let’s do that. It’s hard like Michael Puit’s 10 year NFL career. I don’t know. But this is where the this is where the exercise hits a bit of a snag. It’s kind of tough. Okay. Uh before we get to offensive line here, let’s talk about plumbers. Let’s talk about people who can fix your air conditioning perhaps during the summer, too. They do it all at MSP. Plumbing, heating, and air conditioning. They do indeed. And guess what? the next two days hot, steamy, and if your AC is on the fritz or it’s not operating at full strength, I’m going to tell you right now, my friends at MSP Plumbing, Heating, and Air can take care of that. If you need a quick checkup, $49 AC tuneup, which is a no-brainer when it comes to giving you and your family a piece of mind, repairs, installs, reliable service, that’s what they are all about. Also, ask about the Total Comfort Club membership, and know that your system will be taken care of all year long. MSB Plumbing, Heating, and Air. Give them a call 651-6154292 or check out their website callms msp.com. callms msp.com. Also coming up in a couple weeks here, the 3M Open always a super. If you’re a golf fan, the 3M Open is a great time in late July, Dex. Yeah, 3Mop.com uh to purchase those tickets. It’s July 21st through the 27th. You got Max Homa there, Windam Clark. A lot of good golfers coming up here. Lee Bryce is performing a concert too on Saturday, July 26th. Uh tickets are available uh which include passes to the Stilly Parking Deck Experience. Uh go to 3Mopen.com/tick to get in on the action. Okay, boys. Offensive line. Okay, so we’re looking for we’re and we can we can deviate from this if we need to, but we’re looking for nine offensive linemen. Ideally, two left tackles, two left guards, a center, a right guard. We could also do like a swing thing where we just do five interior offensive linemen and then left tackle, right tackle. Okay. Matt Khil has to be and I I know he got off to a good start, but my guy, he was the fourth overall pick in 2012. Yeah. And he was a complete bust. I mean, ultimately probably put more of an effort into his pizza joints than he did playing football. Pizza joints. Piology. Piology. Pizza joints. Yeah. So, good call back. He had we thought from the first year I think he was eventually named a Pro Bowl alternate that he was going to be outstanding, but he went downhill so quick. I think he has to be our left tackle. Okay, let’s let’s let’s hit some of the obvious ones here and then we can we can bounce back and fill in. Right guard Ed Ingram. Yep. Second round pick. Yep. Yep. winds up essentially off the roster, you know, two years before you needed. Well, a year before they have one year left. Is the left guard Ezra Cleveland? So, all right, let’s let’s do the left guard discussion here. I think there’s there’s three names that we’ve bandied about in our prep for this. Ezra Cleveland is one of them, but I thought he was like a Jag. He’s in the discussion. And he’s definitely I Yeah, I kind of feel like he’s more of a shag than a bust, but you might second round pick though. Second round pick. He didn’t really pan out. You basically traded him fairly quickly. Uh Dakota Doure was I think he was a free agent signing for he was a Jet before he was a Viking if I remember. Mhm. And he was one of the worst offensive linemen in the entire league for at least a year, maybe two years. and he play he played a lot of left guard for the Vikings. And then I know people are going to want to bring up our guy, the Rhino, Alex Boone, because he signed a big free agent contract before 2016. He was a starting Super Bowl starting offensive lineman and obviously he’s he’s become a great friend of the show for me and where I will defend him 100%. Like obviously he didn’t full like they cut him before the contract got to the second year basically. Uh but he allow in the one full year he started, he allowed one sack and 16 pressures all year on a mangled knee, but because he was kind of loud and he would poke the bear, he was very boisterous and then they cut him before the second year, he’s viewed as this gigantic bust, which you could argue, all right, well, he signed like a three-year deal or a four-year deal and he only he only played here for one year. So I would say for sure Dakota Doer unless somebody wants to Diana Hill and fight that one. I don’t I don’t think so. The the other name I had in the bag was Drew Samya. What was his uh acquisition? I forget that one. I think he was like a sixth round pick, wasn’t he? He was awful. Yeah, there was nasty. This is where we have to sort of untangle. Yeah, they ran a bunch of dudes out there. Okay, fourth round pick. Ooh, that’s interesting. Fourth round pick. That’s a That’s a harsh one, but it’s I mean, he sucked. First team, all Big 12, too, coming out of college. Okay. Okay. Like, he was really good at OK. I’ll hear this. Yeah. Let’s Let’s keep diving on this one. So, yeah. I did he play just semantically here, did he play mostly left guard for the Vikings or was it right guard? I’m pulling up the PFFs here just to see the snap counts. We just We want to make sure we don’t mclassify our 53. I just remember we all we all thought he was could be something something pretty decent and then he got into one game and it was just awful. I remember him getting absolutely thrown around. He was a right guard and um well if if we want to go down that path although I think he was a later pick TJ Clemings also oh yeah that year left tackle but again he shouldn’t have been there. Uh he was a fourth round pick too. Like okay this is where it gets consider you’re not going to have all first round busts. I mean some franchises do. So, let’s do this. TJ TJ Clemings. I think he was so bad at left tackle and he was a fourth round pick. So, it wasn’t like he was a seventh rounder or undrafted. Yep. I feel like if you’re as bad as TJ Clemings was or as bad as Drew Seamia was at Reich Guard, you deserve to be in the discussion. Sure. I’m very comfortable with my left tackles being Matt Kil and TJ Clemings. Okay. Okay. Well, in this exercise, you’re comfortable with those guys being your left hand? Oh, yeah. Yeah. No, no. Right now I’m going with you’re you’re not good at football. Yeah. Yes. I’m very comfortable with that conversation. Okay. So, and we’re going Dakota Doer for sure at left guard. Um and then for right guard I think yeah Drew Well Drew Samia another name that I had was third round pick Wyatt Davis. Yep. Ohio State. We had a lot of Oh god. We him up. They deemed him unplayable too. So that’s definitely one could we act what we could do is cuz some of these guys could be left or right guards. If we had four guards, Dakota Doer, Ed Ingram, Wyatt Davis, Drew Seamya, all of them either uh second or fourth round picks or free agent in Dakota Doer. Like Dakota Doer is a free agent bust. Alex Boone played well for a year and then got cut in large part because his knee was all jacked up and the coach only typical Mackie. Where are the comments? In fact, go ahead fight against him. I am not going to fight against him. There there’s worse. Like his his season I think people didn’t like him because he spoke up so much more so than his play was terrible. Yeah. And then the team went in the tank. They won like they started like 5-0 and then Well, that’s because Zim called the offensive line soft after they lost to Philadelphia. Yeah. There was a there was a lot going on. I’m comfortable with those four guards. Um, if I may introduce the center position, please. Please. I would like to throw out two names. He was drafted as a center. Second round pick 2006 was Ryan Cook. Ryan Cook. He was drafted as a center. And then my second one, his third round pick 2017, Pat Elfline. Yeah, those are my two centers. And they’d be over Garrett Bradberry, who was kind of the ultimate Jag. Jag. I don’t think he was a bust. No, he was a multi-year starter. Got a little better as he progressed. Was not a was not a good high-end starter. But the other two guy like Ryan Cook was drafted to essentially replace Matt Burke. Mhm. And wound up immediately after one year shifting outside to right tackle. They just That’s right. And they drafted John Sullivan. And then Pat Elfline. Yeah. Panel Fines carved out he carved out a pretty long career, but uh that was kind of a disaster in the heart of the Kirk Cousins era, too. He um I think at the beginning of the end for poor Pat was when his legs snapped in Philadelphia. Yeah. In the in the conference championship game. He was never the same after that. You know what we could do here? Cuz cuz Ryan Cook did transition to right tackle. We could open up the right tackle discussion here. So we essentially we only have one center on the roster. I’m putting Elfline in there and that leaves two spots open with I think three for sure candidates here. Ryan Cook who could swing over to right tackle. Yep. Willie Beavers is the fourth round pick that you alluded to earlier cuz he’s a fourth round pick that got cut in training camp. Yep. And then made it through waiverss back to the practice squad. So nobody even he was a fourth round pick. He he was in 2016 he was the highest draft pick to not make the 53. It’s wild. It’s very rare that fifth round picks even get cut. Yeah. Although the Vikings done that too. And Marcus Johnson. Oh, that’s not a bad one. I also had Andre Smith, the free agent from the Bengals in 2016, who had been a really high draft pick. He was expect to step in here and play. And I think Zimmer, if I am correct on this, the timeline, didn’t Zim know him from the time in Cincinnati? and he got hurt and then he was just a complete non-factor. They had to get Jake Long out of retirement. That’s right. It was a whole thing. There was a bang bang bang bang chain reaction of injuries to the offensive line early in 2016. That’s right. Yeah, that was that’s right. So, we Wow. What do we do here then? Do we do we expand Do we expand the offensive line to 10? Is there another position that’s a little lighter that you would say, you know what, okay, because here’s what I’m gonna do. I’m gonna put in I’m gonna go Ryan Cook. I’m gonna go Willie Beavers. And then in the sort of alternate bin, we’ll go Marcus Johnson. And we’ll go Andre Smith. Okay. All right. So, these are these are guys that are just kind of waiting for a phone call. They’re sit they’re sitting in like a green room right now. Yep. Waiting to see waiting to see how we fill out the rest of the team. Let’s go to the edge rusher. We need five edge rushers here. Okay. All time all bust Vikings 53. Okay. Arasmus James. Yep. No discussion there. Um I have I have 11th overall pick in 1995, Derek Alexander. Yep. And then here’s a sneaky one. The 14th pick in 1986 from Auburn was a guy named Gerald Robinson. Yes. Two seasons, 16 games played. a complete bust. So those are my those are my three off the top. Love those. So we need we need two more and I will throw out Marcus Davenport. Yep. Love it. Yanik Eng pick for. Both are perfect. And then also worth noting in the early 2000s they took a bunch of swings on edge guys like pass rushers. Yeah. Willie Howard second round pick out of Stanford in 2001. And then is it Michael Bro? Oh, yeah. I think it was Bro. Yes. He was a second round pick out of Miami in 2000. Yeah. And both those dudes just did nothing for the Vikings. Yes. They were Yes. They spent My god, how long did did they spend trying to find an edge? It was like 10 years it felt like. So, you know what we could do then? Let’s let’s let’s put a pin in those guys and let’s also lump in the rest of the defensive line, okay? Which we have five spots carved out for. Uh but if we if we feel like we’re a little light, we could potentially just expand this to a 10-man grouping of defensive front. Yes. And that would make a little more room for for a couple of these guys. So, who who else do you have on your defensive line big board here? Well, the obvious one, defensive tackle Demetrius Underwood, the 29th pick in 1998, who proceeded to after like one practice disappear from training camp. Yeah. Um, so he’s an obvious one. Uh, I have Dayton Jones, free agent from, I believe, the Packers in 2017. Dayton Jones. D A T O N E Jones. Dayton Jones. Yes. And here’s one, but it might not be fair. Share. Share Floyd, but he was not a bad player. Yeah, they screwed up. So, I almost feel like he doesn’t deserve this. He did not suck at football. His career was stolen. So, he’s also latigious. And so, you know, we don’t want to put him on this list. And then all of a sudden, we get an envelope from Share Floyd’s legal team. Yeah, it was it was rough. What about uh what about Michael Pierce? So, Michael Pierce signed a three-year $27 million contract. He opted out, did not play in the co year. He said, “I’m not playing.” Then he came back in 2021, only played in eight games and then was cut. He only played eight games with the Vikings, huh? Yeah, I know. It feels more than that. And then he went back to Baltimore and I think he retired after last season. Yes. He just retired in a couple months ago. Because was he was supposed to replace was it Tomlinson or Lindval? Uh Tomlinson, right? No, I think Lynval. Okay. I think Lynvald had left cuz he cuz uh Pierce was signed going into the 2020 off season or in the 2020 offseason. So I think Linda left a good one, man. Like that’s a pretty good one. Michael Pierce. I didn’t have him. I love that cuz he was like a pretty good player if I remember right in the eight games, but he only played eight games. We could try and ding although it’s probably not worth it. Who was that slappy from the Packers a couple of years ago that the Dean Lowry? Yeah, Dean Lowry. I mean, just he was on the all Jag team or Jag team, I mean. Yeah. And they and he was a Jag when they signed him. They just signed him to be a body, you know. I would be very I would be okay with with not having as many DTs to get all of the defensive ends into. What about James Manley? Second rounder in 1996. Never played a defensive snap in the NFL. I forgot. Defensive tackle. Manley. Huh? He’s got to be on this list, right? Sure. Okay. So, all right. So, so we’ve got we’re blending these position groups together. And so, we’ve got Arasmus James, Derek Alexander, Gerald Robinson. Pop this up here, Dex, if you could. Demetrius Underwood, Michael Pierce, and James Manley with conversation about, by the way, Manley. Also, if we did a list for didn’t live up to their actual name, right? You’re a Manley. madly, but she can’t even get on the field as a segment. He must have gotten something must have happened there, right? Yeah. I don’t know. May maybe I’m being like insensitive here, but let’s I’ll find it quickly. Okay. James Manley Wikip. Why don’t you look that up for us? There’s two there’s a few different James Manley. You got to find the American football one. Yeah, I found he has a one paragraph Wikipedia page. Defensive tackle in the National Football League. Played college football for Vanderbilt. Was selected by the Vikings in the second round. played from 96 to 97, but did not play in a regular season game his whole career. Wow. So, there you go. Yep. That’s one of the I mean, that’s not that long ago, too. I That’s in the middle of my childhood fandom. Yeah. The the the hard part here is from basically when the Williams wall got here through Lynvall between two so like 2005 through 2019 their defensive lines were awesome. Yeah. So like that’s a 15-year period where at the very least they got Jag performance if not all pro bowl performances on the high end. Yep. That’s why you got to go back. Yeah. That’s So I’m going to I’m going to put Marcus Davenport on here for sure. Yes. And unless you guys want to fight un Yik was we were excited about that. They spent a lot of capital and they shipped him back off 6 weeks later. So Yanik and Gagway. Let’s see here. That leaves two spots. Okay. For who is your Packers guy again? Dayton Jones. Dayton Jones. DHT. Not that guy. O N E Jones. Okay, let’s go with that, too. I do remember that vaguely. That was supposed to be more of an impact signing. You wiped that out. And then that would leave one spot for either I think you’re right on Sheree Floyd. Feels a little unfair. It does open up like All right. Well, what about Matt Khalil? Isn’t that unfair for him? He hurt his knee. Nah, not really. He cared more about his pizza joint. And then Michael Bureau or Willie Howard are the other two on here that we’ve been kicking around. Fred Robbins. He’s on my big board. Freddy Robbins. Yep. Michael Bureau was where again taken where second round pick in 2000 out of Miami and then uh Willie Howard was a second round pick in 2001 out of Stanford probably because they didn’t like Michael Bau after one year. That’s that’s how that worked. Um okay I’m just looking up Willie howard to see here. Okay. Yeah because they had such that that that run there. I’m trying to think of like draft busts that they that they reached out even like a third round pick or something between like the last 20 years and I can’t think of anyone. Well, these are all second round busts here. So, I mean these are in the case of Howard, he played two seasons before a serious injury and ended his career, but if Floyd’s on the list, then this is open for all comers. Um, so his career did come to an end because of um an injury. Okay. And then let’s just Michael Bau here. Just want to make sure we’re we’re not missing some injury detail. He had a rare neuromuscular disorder called ocular mastthena gravis. Okay. As a result, he never played it down in an NFL regular season game. He did play a professional season for the Ottawa Renegades of the CFL in 2002. I’m going Howard then. Willie Howard. Okay. Cuz he had a football clearly something that was a football thing. Okay. Willie Howard football. And now we need five L. So there you go. We got and there’s there’s probably more where that came from too. You know, Ketu Deza is one that we didn’t talk about because he got he got sick, right? Okay. Linebackers. We need five linebackers. Okay. Throwback to 1989 second round pick David Braxton. David Braxton. Okay. Yes. David Braxton. And then I al also have converted quarterback to linebacker Spielman specialty 2021 third rounder Chaz Sak who I think is still playing. He was with the Jets last. Uh he played nine games in a season and then that was a curtains for him. Yeah, I love the Chaz Serat. You said David Braxton. Yeah. Br second round pick in ‘ 89. Okay. Other guys on my big board, Napoleon Harris. Mhm. Part of the Moss trade. Okay. Maybe more of a Jag guy. Yeah, he was a Jag. He was not He did not suck. Ronol Smith, second round pick in 2002. Yeah. Yeah, that’s closer. Yeah. Dantarius Thomas was a second round pick. Very jaggy if not busty. Yes. And then Brian Oamwa, third round pick. Can’t get on the field. And I also have a uh 2016 Zimmer guy, free agent Emmanuel Leur. Oh, I felt like we heard a lot about him. Like his fit for the system, the Zimmer system. And uh I don’t recall him doing a damn thing. Did he make the team? I thought he made the team, but I don’t think he did. Jack Squat. Yeah. Uh what about Aimwa? Can we We got three spots left here. Yeah, I’m going to be at training camp next week. He sees me, I might be in trouble. But yeah, absolutely. Why not? Yes. It’s up to you if you if you if you want to state a case for him. Seems like you’re hesitant. No, no, no, no. I’m fine with it. I’m sorry. I was joking. I’m checking out Le Mur’s uh Le Merur’s playing time here as a Viking. Okay. Okay. So, he played in all 16 games in 16 and 17, but he didn’t start. It looks like he barely played on defense. So perhaps I was misremembering the intentions. I’m looking at snap counts as a Viking. I feel like he wasn’t like brought in to be a he was a lot of special teams guy. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. I thought he was a Yeah. Napole Napoleon Harris at one point had over a 100red tackles for the Raiders. He was a firstround pick. Yeah. So you thought, okay, we’re going to get this stud prime linebacker and the seventh overall pick from the Raiders. Yep. And Harris was here for two years. He in fact in 2005 like I’m pretty sure he was a backup. They they kind of relegated him. He only had 25 tackles, only started three games played in 15. But you thought you were getting a legit 26-year-old peak linebacker there and uh he did not live up to that or the trade. I recall him being That’s funny cuz I covered that team and I thought he was better than that, but that’s really not impressive. Uh here’s one I’m checking out that I put on my list initially because he was a first round pick was Dwayne Rudd. Oo more note more noteworthy for uh throwing his helmet at the end of a game in celebration and then the 15 yard penalty resulted in a game-winning field goal for I think the Chiefs, right? He recovered three fumbles in 98 and returned two for touchdowns and had a good year but beyond that was uh did little of note. I’m good on Dwayne Rudd. Okay. Okay. Dwayne Rudd almost. So we got our linebackers are Chaz Serat or Surret whatever Naga Naga not gonna make the team. David Braxton, Brian Aimwa, Napoleon Harris, and Dwayne Rudd. And that brings us to the cornerback room here. We need six cornerbacks and four safeties. This is so rich. This room is so rich. It’s It’s I think Fred Smoot has to have have a place in this room. Yep. 100% agree. So, what was it? 75% of the earth is covered in water and the rest is covered by Fred Smoot. Never forget the game at Carolina in ’05 where Co Pepper got hurt and and they decided and Mike Tyson his infinite wisdom decided to put Fred Smoot on Steve Smith the entire game to shadow him. Took Antoine Winfield off him. So, it’s like and Antoine was pissed and he should have been. and Smith. That’s the That’s the row the boat game by Smith, which by the way, he did in the end zone, but he was down at the three, so that was not a touchdown. And at the end, by the fourth quarter, Smoot found something wrong and said, “I’m out of the game.” My something hurts. What hurts? I don’t know what hurts. My pride hurts. My pride has been mortally injured. Yeah, he’s absolutely in the mix. In terms of draft picks, Andrew Booth Jr. I think, is a lock. Yep. Chris Cook. Chris Cook, Jeff Gladney, Mike Hughes, rest his soul, Mike Hughes in the conversation. Boy, can we say that Booth, Gladney, and Cook are all locks? Booth, Gladney, and Cook. Yeah, cuz Yeah, compared to whoever else you guys have on your on your big boards. Yeah, definitely. That leaves us two open spots for Mike Hughes on the big board. McKenzie Alexander was a second round pick. Yeah. I mean, Mike Hughes was a first round pick. Yep. And got off to that, you know, that I think he had a great training camp and then got hurt and was was not the same. He he also has established like a long career, but I don’t know how how much he’s actually playing these days. Yeah, because he went to Kansas City and actually McKenzie if uh he had two stints here. Who was the uh who was the nickel a couple of years ago who played a year here and uh Shannon Sullivan. Chand Sullivan. Yeah, he’s st Yeah, people people were accusing us of snubbing him in the all Jag discussion, too. So, all due respect, apologies to Chandon Sullivan, but yeah, he probably belongs in this conversation. I’ll throw out uh Brashad Breland. Oh, wow. Free agent signing. Good one. And Torian Gray, who was a second round pick in 1997, out of the league by 1999. What was Surwanga? He He was a corner, right? Wow. Let’s see here. Let’s pull him up. I love how this has just turned into throw out a random obscure Viking. All of us race to Google him. Well, the corn the corners in the early 2000s there were some absolute he was un he was undrafted. Okay. So that’s not fair. Undrafted. Yeah. To like So Tori and Gray was like right around the same draft time and was a second round pick. Okay. Yep. I’m pretty sure about that. It was a second round pick. I think we’ve got at least three good good contenders here. So Okay. So Torian Gray. Yep. Chand Sullivan. Yep. McKenzie Alexander. Bashad Breland or the four names. Bashad Breeland was signed sort of he was signed in during No, he might have been signed before the season. No, he he’s a Yeah, he stunk. He he was bad. I’d say Torian Gray or Bash uh or Breand just because Gray was a higher draft pick than Mackenzie Alexander. Breeland was signed in June of 2021 and then cut in December cuz he melted down on Zimmer in practice. That’s right. So he they kind of he was like a thirdwave free agency signing. Um I mean Torian Grae a second round pick is is a pretty strong case. I mean is I mean if we’re putting Andrew Booth in here to Grae deserves the same consideration here. You know we should show some respect for Torian. I’m good with it. Okay. We’re looking for four safeties. Well Lewis Scene. Let’s throw Lewis in there. Right. On the Mount Rushmore. Yep. Media Williams. He was like a We have him on the Jag team though. Oh, was he? Well, it it doesn’t Listen, you’re not like excluded from being on both. But it it should be worth a discussion. I think he’s more of a Jag than a bust. Yeah, a pretty solid starter, but he was also replacing Darren Sharper, so there was an expectation. And the expectation for him was fairly high, but but I would not fight to the death for his inclusion either. It’s also not a super deep position group for this exercise. had some very decent to really good safeties. Tyrell Johnson, second round pick. Yep. Throw him in here. And and the highest pick in that draft, I think he was taken after the he might have been taken 2008 after they traded the first round pick for Jared Allen to Kansas City. Yeah, he was he was their first pick and their only pick in the top 130 picks. It was Tyrell Johnson and then they had only fifth and sixth round picks after that. Probably didn’t live up to that, did he? No. No, he only played 53 career NFL games and that was kind of a wrap. So, uh, what about was it was Dustin Fox a cornerback or a safety? God, I think third round pick. I think he was Boy, I thought he was a corner, but he might have been he might have he might have been earmarked for safety in the National Football League. He’s listed across the board as a as a defensive back. Did not get on the field for the Vikings. just w up bouncing around to a couple other teams. Yeah. But um other than that, are there any other names at safety? It’s not a very deep position grouping. No. Trying to think of Xavier Woods. Dwight Smith. Dwight Smith was Dwight Smith was I mean despite his hallway incident in block E, he was he was solid, right? Dwight Smith was Yeah. I mean, and those defenses were very good. Yeah, Dwight Smith was a really good player. I would be more tempted to put like Xavier Woods, but I don’t know that he’s a bust either. He came in, I think, did pretty well in that Zimmer defense. Not thinking of a draft pick. Like, was was there any They just don’t I mean, ordinarily safeties don’t get taken that high. Yeah, I’m going I’m like literally back in the 80s right now to see if there’s any This is where You know what we might have to do here? We might have to do three safeties and expand our cornerback room. So, this would open up a spot for Breland, Mackenzie Alexander, or Chanden Sullivan. Breeland. Breeland. Breeland’s a great one. Yeah. Is it Brashad or Bashad? He just said, “Call me Beey.” It’s Beey. Bashad. B A S H A U D. Bashad Breland. In his introductory Zoom at the time, he just said, “Call me Beey.” very friendly at the time. Did you respect that wish? No, because he quickly changed and became uh more of a recal. There you go. Okay. Bashad Breland organized. We’re going to expand the quarterback room. Yeah. Unless we’re unless we’re missing somebody, but I’m also trying to think of like free agent safeties. The thing is it feels like and this is partially because of Harrison Smith. It feels like they’ve been pretty set at most of their safety groupings for quite some time. No, it’s true. It’s true. Okay, let’s do Wow, look at us right now. We’re an hour into this exercise. We still have special teams and coaches. Okay, but first a shout out to Federated Mutual Insurance Company. So, Federated coming up here in just a couple of weeks, the 21st annual Federated Challenge supporting Big Brothers Big Sisters and it’s hosted by Federated Insurance. 20 years of this event. It’s a two-day gala. almost $60 million raised for youth mentoring and 100% of that money goes to Big Brothers Big Sisters and the Federated Challenge Scholarship Program. So, if you want to get involved and become a sponsor, go to federatedchallenge.org. This year’s gala is on July 27th at St. Paul River Center and then the golf event is the next day at Hazeline uh National. So you can donate or learn more about becoming a big maybe with your local Big Brothers Big Sisters agency. Federatedchallenge.org. Okay. All right. Specialists. We’re looking for a long snapper. We’re looking for a kicker and a punter. I would for the kicker. And there’s some good options here. I would nominate 2005 free agent Paul Edinger. Edinger, who I forgot missed nine of 34 field goal attempts that season, didn’t isn’t he? He He’s our Jag kicker. I He He might have been, but I He was When I went and did more research, but I mean, there’s a few here, so it’s not Well, I almost feel like Yeah, he did. I mean, he was like he was a below average kicker for sure. But the Vikings have spent two fifth round picks on kickers. Yep. Blair Walsh and Daniel Carlson, right? Yeah. And Daniel Carlson was cut a few games into his first season. Now, he went on to have a really good career with the Raiders, but like in terms of the Vikings spent a fifth round pick on a kicker and cut him like 10 minutes later. Yeah. Doesn’t it have to be Daniel Carlson? Blair Walsh gave you like a 10 for 10 50 yard season at least. He gave you It would be Carlson. Yeah. Among those two. Yes. Obviously the the push back is well the Vikings were too shortsighted there. Yeah. Okay. But they still he missed a bunch of field goals early and they cut him and that was his Vikings career. Yeah. All due respect to Paul Edinger and his Yeah, exactly. Punter. Punter Britain Kquit. According to I I went back and did some digging on this. According to purple ptsd.com, widely considered the worst Vikings punter in recent memory, his performance was particularly poor in 2020. A PFF grade of 56.5, he ranked 32nd out of 33 punters. Wow. Okay. Yeah, I’m not going to fight you much. Cut in 2021. Okay, that’s fair. What about long snappers? Austin Cutting, seventh round draft. Okay, it’s easy enough. You draft you draft I don’t care where you draft him. You draft a long snapper and he’s not in 200 uh in 2019 he was waved by December of 2020. Amazing man. They’ve burned a lot of picks on specialist. How would you take a long snapper? Like you can you can literally find long snapper. You should in theory. Yeah. Okay. So there’s our we got our 53 and we’ll we’ll come back for the audio audience and we’ll we’ll read this too. But for coaches, we need a head coach, an offensive coordinator, a defensive coordinator, a special teams coordinator. Les Steckle. Yeah. Yeah. Cuz he was he was brought in to replace Bud Grant. Was he hand selected by Bud Grant? No, Bud wanted Bernzie. Okay. Yeah. In fact, Bud came back in ‘ 85 to coach with the agreement of he would coach for one year, step away again, and Burns this time would get the job. Nope. This was I think it was a Mike Lynn production. Yeah. Le easily. Yeah. He And it’s funny cuz his only experience in the NFL to that point was and he was in his 30s. He was pretty young was as a wide receivers coach. One year with San Francisco and then five years with the Vikings. Yeah. Not not a coordinator. Jerry Burns was the coordinator, right? So they promoted him above. Is that correct? Jerry Burns was the coordinator. Yep. At the time of less Steckel’s promotion. Yes. Yep. Okay. He was and should have gotten the job back then. Are there any other coaches we should consider for busts here? No. No. Frasier. Frasier. Norm Van Brocklin was the first coach, but I mean it’s less stuck. They actually haven’t had that many bad coaches. It’s like pretty much the two lesses. Mhm. Pretty much it. Offensive coordinator. So, Bill Musgrave is our Jag offensive coordinator. Could I submit uh John D. Philippo? Yeah, you can submit him. Um I I would also submit 1992 Jack Burns, who is Denny’s first OC, who who he almost immediately fired. But, uh Dalippo is a vintage that’s special. Okay. Defensive coordinator. I’ll throw a name out. George Oir, 2003 Vikings, which was the team that melted down the entire second half of the year. Awful defense. He was there for one year, got fired by Ty, right? Donatel. Ed Donatel. Donatel. I think Ed’s got it. Probably Ed Donatel. Yeah. I mean, okay, I’m not going to fight you on that. Fooled everybody. And then special teams coordinator. We’re looking for a bust of a special teams coordinator. options would be well Ryan Ficken who had a one-year run in 2001 but then everyone got fired so kind of a tough tough deal there. Y Marwin Maloof. Yes. Got fired. Yes. In favor of Ryan Ficken. He was there from 2019 through 20. He’s the guy. Okay. He’s He’s 100% the guy. Okay. They did nothing but screw up. Like as far as I recall and all the things the special teams should do well beyond like kicking and stuff, they couldn’t. Maro and Malu. So there it is. There’s the exercise. Our offense, the all-time all bust Vikings 53man roster, Christian Ponder, Josh Freeman, Donovan McNab. Running back room, and fullbacks DJ Doer, Toby Ghart, Hershel Walker, Thomas Depay. Tight ends, John Carlson, Irv Smith Jr., Mike Jones. Wide receivers, Troy Williamson, Laquan Treadwell, Michael Floyd, Corin Robinson, Randy Moss’s second stint, Jerome Simpson. Offensive line, Matt Khil, TJ Clemings, Dakota Doer, Drew Seamia, Pat Eline, Ed Ingram, Wyatt Davis, Ryan Cook, Willie Beavers. We’re snubbing Andre Smith and Marcus Johnson here. That’s tough to take. Yeah, I feel sort of bad about that. Can we Oh boy. We’d have to take from a different position group. Yeah, this is tough. It’s tough. Defense on the line. We’ve got Arasmus James, Dererick Alexander, Gerald Robinson, Demetrius Underwood, Michael Pierce, James Manley, Marcus Davenport, Yikquay, Dayton Jones, Willie Howard. Linebackers Chaz Serat, David Braxton, Brian Aimwa, Napoleon Harris, Dwayne Rudd, and then defensive backs Fred Smoot, Andrew Booth, Jeff Gladney, Chris Cook, Mike Hughes, Torian Gray, Bashad Breland, Lewis Scene, Media Williams, Tyrell Johnson. The specialists Austin Cutting snapping to Britain Colequit holding for Daniel Carlson likely wide left. And then the coaching the coaching staff Les Stackle, John D. Philippo, Ed Donatel, and Marwin Maloof. There we go. I’m looking I’m looking to see if there there was a possibility to get at least one of those uh tackles in red back on, but it’s hard. I mean, that’s it. Is tough, man. It’s a really good team. Yeah, you’d have to because you can’t you can’t just go with two tight ends or Yeah, you gota have a you gota have a balanced 53man roster here. So, there it is. Let us know. Okay, who did we snub? Who did we who did we miscast here? 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36 comments
McNabb over T-Jack… for that short question between the 2. McNabb had a lot of expectations… If it wasn't for 2008… probably would have considered him more than McNabb. Should also point out… McNabb was benched for Ponder! Also… Childress sucked with QB's and that passed down to Frazier because I don't know for what reason… Frazier wanted to keep the same kind of system of Childress and kind of kept a bad place to be for a QB. From Childress to Frazier… they had QB's afraid… Childress with T-Jack and Frazier with Ponder (not making excuses… but they both looked like they were too scared to make a play because of the fear of making a mistake) Childress don't get credit for Favre because Favre comes in and the offense looks better than what Childress had it in the first place.
Another that should have been mentioned especially if the parameters were investment and expectations… should be Cousins! Yeah… he put up stats (like he did in Washington) but couldn't really show up in big moments (like he did in Washington) But the Vikings spent a huge amount of money… first ever fully guaranteed contract… just for 1 playoff win on what was considered "1 QB away team" when they signed him… just to watch the roster erode over time due to his high contract.
Expand you are all in!
I’m surprised you guys didn’t pick Corderelle Patterson for the WR.
How about an all jersey number team? Pick the best player to wear each jersey number. Like who’s the best player to wear 84, Moss, Oliver, Irv Smith jr?
Greg Childs was a 4th round pick who didn’t make it out of training camp after a freak injury, tearing BOTH patellar tendons in his knees on the same play.
You didn’t look at Grants picks,other than Steckle. Other than Foreman Kramer,Blair,Mc Neil,,he had a lot of busts.
A couple years ago, my friend & I started the “Preseason Hall of Fame”. Basically guys who balled out in preseason & won over fans’ hearts but never or rarely played/produced in regular season games. Or even got cut despite putting up numbers in preseason.
Each year we induct, 4 players into that year’s class. Would love to see y’all do that as well!
We got held scoreless and blown out by the hated Pack and camera cut to Smoot. Fred was practicing his stand-up comedian routine, holding court on the sidelines. Still makes my purple blood boil.
Boone was trash. Get over it mackey
Maybe the Whizzanator at RB???
Instead of Randy Moss' 2nd, Cordarrelle Patterson would've been my WR bust. 1st round as a WR. Dude couldn't run a route coming out as a WR.
You guys not having Lewis Cine at safety is a huge whiff. I'm am now questioning the "sports" dads vikings knowledge
HOT TAKE: Kirk cousins is a bust. First ever fully guaranteed contract. Brought in with a ready made roster to go far in the playoffs. One playoff win in 6 years as a vikings starter… if we are rating specifically on what was expected of players coming in free agency and used capital vs. what they are expected produce. $236 million for one playoff win. I think he could definitely be considered. Solid player but we were sorely let down from what was expected of him given the circumstances and payment.
I sent Mackey a message on feedback about Troy Williamson. I talked to Braylon Edwards a couple weeks ago and said he was one of my favorites of all time and he said Mike tice said that he was going to draft him if he was there. So going back to Williamson it makes sense why we reached.
Based on expectations when the Vikings signed him, Kirk Cousins should be considered an all time bust. All he did was suck the salary cap dry and waste 6 years of everyone's time. Expectations were that we'd be perennial SB contenders and the reality was we were a borderline playoff team the entire time he was here.
Kaare Vedvik ???? What the hell 1:05:34
Chris Herndon should have been the last tight end choice. Such a ridiculous trade for a low performer. 4 catches for 40 yards and 1 touchdown and sent out a 4th rounder.
Torrain Grey, played well and completely destroyed his knee, ending his career. Much like Willie Howard
Jimmy Hitchcock and Cris Dishman were FA busts
I just gotta say, this episode is such a clusterfuck because you're pulling guys who had like practically no expectation. Michael Pierce – high expectations, 3 year 27M for a 360 lb nose tackle is not chump change, he is a huge bust. Diving into the dumpster for Dakota Dozier and getting exactly what you paid for is not a bust, man. Sorry.
Also, you can't pick specific stints, so you either pick Moss, which is preposterous, or you don't. His stint where he was washed and we made a panic decision to sign him. If you can pick specific stints, that opens up the possibility to pick specific years, in which case Culpepper and Favre could be on this list too. I think it's a bridge too far.
This list is complete horseradish.
Jarvis Redwine! Was supposed to be great and he just couldn't do a dang thing!!!
Spurgeon Wynn!
Onterio Smith imo is a bigger bust that Gerhardt.
Teddy Bridgewater was a bust before this knee decided to leave.
Question: Can this bust roster (when healthy), beat the JAG roster (when healthy)?
What’s that smell in the air? Oh that’s right football is around the corner ❤
the selection of offensive lineman for this exercise is absolutely hilarious, there's so many options
Love it. Epic podcast. IMO Cousins deserves to be on this list. SKOL!
Although he was a 7th round pick, he DID win the Heisman. My pick for greatest QB bust…Gino Torretta
Leo Hayden.
1st round pick in early 70's
Alex mattisons one year as lead back makes my bust list it was so miserable watching him
The biggest special teams bust I can think of is Kaare Vedvik, not even mentioned here
How about Ontario Smith as a bust RB?
I feel like you guys just ignored the first thirty five years of the team's existence
I wonder how long it would take to make an actual exhaustive list of just vikings linemen busts.
torian was injured dumbasses and played more nickel / safety and blew his knee
Mike Jones was a 3rd round pick in 1990 at TE (and the Vikings 1st pick in that draft).