The Milwaukee Brewers Are Good Enough To Make A World Series + The Miz Makes ASG – JGC 7.14.25

The Milwaukee Brewers Are Good Enough To Make A World Series + The Miz Makes ASG – JGC 7.14.25

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This is Jen, Gabe, and Chewy. Ah, he reads, so it really doesn’t matter. Excuse me, sir. What are you doing? I’m all set. Did you take that book with you into the bathroom? What do you want to hear? Reading is so like 1970. Who flipping reads anymore? They made me buy it. A hundred bucks this thing cost me. I got news for you. If it wasn’t for the toilet, there would be no books. They’re selling coffee brand muffins. You’re surrounded by reading material. It’s entropment. Watch your book instead of read it. Watch my book. It cuts out one whole process. When you read, you have to filter it through your brain and make a picture. You started the picture just being there for you. Yeah. I need to return this book. I’m sorry. We can’t take this book back. Why not? It’s been flagged. Flagged? It’s been in the bathroom. It says that on the computer. Please take it home. We don’t want it near the other books. This is Jen, Gabe, and Chewy broadcasting live from the Gruber Law Offices. One Call That’s All Studios at the Avenue with Gabe Nitel and Mark Chamura. Here’s Jen Lattis. I’m cool as well. The gang is back together at least on the radio. Good morning, Gabe Nitel. How was your time off? Oh, it was fantastic. Thank you for asking. Had a great time. Had a great I could not recommend going to Macanak Island enough. No, no uh no cars on the island. Uh, the island I believe is Minak. No, I So the city is Well, it’s there’s a C on the end. I can show you how it’s spelled. It’s Meno. Yeah, but as we just covered in the open, the whole reading thing really passed him by. So he doesn’t recognize the C at the end. He looks refreshed. Yeah, it was great. We, you know, we just went up there, walked around a little bit, had some of the fudge. It’s fantastic. Did you get an Airbnb or did you get a hotel? Uh, we went cuz real estate up there is at a premium, right? Oh my goodness. I I just out of curiosity because when you’re walking around there are little houses that pop up on some of these trails and you’re like and one of them had a for sale sign. It’s like well okay now I got to go on to see how much you know just like $1.5 million that’s all. Um so you know maybe we can pull our money and get a vacation home for the house uh for the show. Um no we stayed at a resort so we took our dog with us. Uh so the dog went on vacation with us and they had a they had a a pooch package at the resort. Yeah. Yeah. It was great. Pooch package. That’s what that guy saw on Chewy the other day when he uh was wearing the shorts, right? Speaking of fudge, a lot of horses there, huh? Oh, yeah. Uh-huh. A lot of Yeah. And so there’s some of that stink like horses. Um I mean not too bad. Okay. I mean when they walk past obviously and then you know there’s people always going in the streets cleaning up after the horses cuz that’s all over the place. Um but it was great. U could not recommend it enough. Nice little getaway. And I mean the island is just it is pristine. just in great condition. Clear water from Lake Hiron. Yeah, it was fantastic. Did you golf? I did not. So, they do have two nine-hole uh courses on the island. I I would have felt bad just leaving my wife on vacation for a couple of hours just so I could go play golf. So, um we just I mean we hung out by the beach. We w again we probably walked one day eight or nine miles on some of the different trails they have in the middle of the island. Um yeah, it was great. Enjoyed some of the great food they have. Nice. Okay, we have to check it out. It’s nice. Was that uh does that sort of sound like how your weekend went? No, my weekend uh great weekend. It’s just me and Angel. All the kids were gone. Were you So, you were happy to see the kids? Yes, but it was time for But you were also happy to see them. Yeah, we need a little mama and papa time, which we did, but we wound up going to dinner this Monday. I mean, I still have it pictured in my head. So, we’re going to the Golden Mast, which is a great friend of the show. Great restaurant. Um, good. Dress up. You know, it’s one of those where you dress up. So, we’re running a little late. Reservations at 7:15. We’re going over on on the boat on our boat. So, we get over there. Uh, everyone’s dressed pretty nicely. So, there’s no slips. They’re all taken up. So, we’re like, “What are we doing? We’re already late. We’re 25 minutes late for the resin. So my buddy Don Gdadan is Donnie Nebrace. This is Donnie Knece, oral surgeon, great dude, academic, you know. So he he you know how academics get distracted very easily? Like he’s the type of guy like yesterday we’re in his boat. There’s a rock ledge where everyone including himself knows where it is. He hit it with his boat. So, he’s the type of guy that will will pull into his driveway. He’ll look at his phone, get distracted, still driving, but forget to open the garage door through the garage door. That’s the kind of guy. So, we drop the girls off. We’re like, “Okay, go get the table.” Blah, blah, blah. So, he used to have a slip that was on the other side. My fooler is over there, and we were going to walk across the bridge, but we would have to tie up to his buddy’s boat. So, we do that. Tie the front, tie the back, but we have to walk across his friend’s boat. Well, you know, the huge foam rolls. Sure. That the kids, you know, play on in the water that is between the back of the boat and the engine. So, you got to kind of scooch through there, right? Got to be got to be an athlete. So, I I get off and I’m waiting for him. I’m on the pier. I’m like, “Gon, come on. Come on.” He’s trying to find his phone. Finds his phone. So he starts to scooch. He goes ass over tea kettle into the water. All dressed nice. All dressed nice. Did he Did he have like a blazer on? No. He had like a Robert Grant, you know? Sure. And linen shorts. Oh, no. Now you don’t wear black underwear with cream colored linen shorts. Well, not if they’re going to get wet. You don’t. I’m like, “So now you and Nebra, you know a little bit better than you did previously.” Yes. So somehow the first thing to come out of a wa the water is his two hands with the phones and he puts them up on the boat. So I didn’t want him to panic. So you know how you come out of the water hair straight down? Yeah. I go, “Don, Don, I’ll drive you over to the house. Okay. It’ll take a half hour. Change will be No, I’m good. I’m good. So, he gets out of the water. We got about quarter mile walk. He’s taking the shirt off, right, and walking with his linen shorts with his black underwear. And I’m like, “Don, we can No, no, no. I’m fine.” So, he’s got his his shirt in his hand, ringing it out, trying to get it dry. I’m laughing. I’m walking. I cannot stop laughing. So, I’m walking to the restaurant. Have you guys ever been to the Golden Mast? Oh, yeah. There’s a big vestibule area where they have bands and stuff. So, we’re getting close, right? And I’m going, when’s he going to put his shirt on? I mean, we’re getting close here. Yeah, he’s got his shirt off in the vesting pool with everyone around cuz we I was like trying to get a hold of the girls and then just walk around back to the patio. Yeah. So that way you could avoid. So I’m like, “You gonna put the shirt on or we just gonna go in?” So finally he goes to hell with it. Let’s just go in. Everyone’s looking at him. Well, yeah. I’m dying laughing. The owner comes over to me. She’s like, “What happened?” I’m like, “He went for a swim.” Didn’t bother him one bit. What did he end up doing? You got He had to change. Did they give him a chance? Sat down and ate. No. Sat down and ate. What did the wives say when you showed up at the table? They both started laughing because he walked in before me and I I was barreled over laughing. I’m like, I can’t. Soaking wet with black underwear. Yeah. Through the cream. So you could still see the black underwear. Oh yeah. Plain as day. Place is packed, you know. But it was one of those things I’m like, I got to let him walk 15 feet in front of me. I really don’t want to be associated with it. Well, then you’re going to be sitting down at the table with him. People are going to know. They’re going to figure it out. He’s one of a kind. Played it off. Sat there for the whole Did he have a puddle under his chair? Oh, yeah. Yep. Yep. Had they g him a, you know, a bunch of bar rags and stuff? Fine. You know, and what was his explanation for this? He just didn’t want to miss dinner because you guys were already late, so he didn’t want to like push it back anymore because I like your idea of just zipping back to the house, grabbing a spare set of clothes, coming back, you know, no harm, no foul. But most people would panic in that situation, right? And I was just trying to keep them panic. Yep. He’s like, “No, I’m fine. No big deal at all.” Like this has happened to him before. Oh, here’s what you do in this situation. We’re going to do this. The bartenders were I Everyone laughing just caused me to laugh even harder. And my stomach was killing me. I’m like, I cannot laugh. Do you think this happens more frequently than you think? You think people are falling off the boats headed into dinner more frequently than we think? I would think 99.9% of the people would go home and change. Yeah, I I would agree with that. Happens, but they would go home and change. Or maybe if it happens to you enough, you keep a spare, you know, some spare clothes on the boat. Uh yeah, take those with you just in case. Yeah, that’s the solution right there, Gabe. You’re right. Like I would anytime I’m going on the boat have a spare set of clothes on the off chance. I mean, we were we had some friends over. I think I sent you guys the video when this happened, right? Where we had some friends over. We were out on the boat and I was trying to help the kids get on the boat and then I just like fell in. Now I was wearing a bathing suit. I was wearing a cover up. I was, you know, my ball cap, my sunglasses, all that stuff, but I had to try to salvage the things that fell off. Um, but yeah, I think spare set of clothes is the way to go here. It tracked back to me getting in trouble. So I was in trouble. Wait, how did you get in trouble? I’ll tell you why. Remember when I went out to the lake, had my hands full, and all of a sudden the phone dips into the water and I was watching it go down and I was dressed for dinner. Yep. My my wife’s like, “See, Don would have dove in and got the phone.” Oh my. Instead of having to pay another $800 to get a new phone, so I was in trouble. That happened years ago. She doesn’t forget. That was years ago. Yeah. So, I was in trouble at the end of the night. And Don was the hero. I I can’t win. I never win. Which is fine. Although you did get a good chuckle out of it. That’s sort of a win. And and and I’d sit there yesterday watching TV and just start laughing and Angie would be like, “What are you laughing at?” I’m like, “You know, when I’m like literally when his feet were above his head as he was going into the water, I’m like, there’s no way this is happening.” Like you thought this only happens in a second. The best was the shorts cuz this is the kind of guy he had black underwear when cream colored linen shorts. But to be fair, you couldn’t see the black underwear when the cream colored linen shorts were dry. Right. Not like when they were wet. Yeah, I know. I’m thinking he thought it was a safe bet. He thought it was a safe choice. And then the the shirt off in the vestibule with the band playing all this. What was he doing with his shirt? like he was just trying to like air dry it and like wave it in the air. He thought we were going to walk around to the back patio. So he had another 150 steps before he really had to put the shirt on. Wait. So he in his mind was going to walk through the restaurant full of people. No, we were going to walk around the backside. Oh, okay. And then he said, “Uh, cuz the the girls were in the bar.” Yeah. So he’s like, “Ah, hell with it. Let’s just go inside.” And I was this close to saying, “Well, you got to wear a shirt in there.” Yeah. I mean, that’s that’s basic. Yeah. No shoes, no shirt, no service. Like that’s just it’s one of the two rules you have to follow. I mean, you guys are going home to change, right? Yeah. I’m probably not coming back. That’s giving up. Yeah. I would have said I’ll take the boat back. You guys have a nice dinner. I have a nice dinner. I’ll be at home. Right. I give up, Jen. Cuz if you go in, I mean, that’s hair. That’s makeup, right? Well, you’re talking to me here. Uh there’s there’s a chance I might not have my hair and makeup done. There’s a chance I just look like I do right now walking into the restaurant. Uh I it depends on how wet I was and how What do you mean how wet? I mean he was underwater. If you go underwater, like once you’re wet, you’re wet. Yeah. Hear me out, though. The certain clothes dry faster than others, you know, and it’s pretty steamy right now. And if you guys were sitting outside, there’s a chance that in about oh, I don’t know, an hour, you’d be dry or your clothes would be dry. Depends on what you’re wearing. By the end of the meal, you’ll be dry. This guy is a hero. I mean, bucking trend, bucking the norms, walking in, not a care in the world. I kind of admire his uh what do you call it? Hutzba. Is that the word? Yeah. Yeah. He’s that kind of guy, too. He just marches to the people. I figured there was a reason you were friends with him because when you told him us you he was an academic, we were I was like, “Oh, a little odd couple happening here, huh?” And he had the knee brace on. It’s is it was lovely. Yeah. You jealous of his knee brace since you’re having a little knee issues yourself? Hold on. We just got to talking and I’m playing tuck away with the Spaniard who’s coming into town and I got a bad wheel. You had a bad knee for a little knee where I can’t really swing. And Joshy’s like, “Well, just get one of those neoprene knee braces and play with that.” And I’m like, “No.” Oh, like Copper Fit. Yeah, like that. Yeah. I mean, I if you text Brad, I’m sure he’s got a couple somewhere. I’m like, I will swing like a goonard that I am and not look like a dork. If you’re wearing a black knee brace with shorts on playing golf, what if they’re black shorts? I can’t do that cuz then you have to wear the black shoes and you can’t wear the black shoes when you play golf and you’re wearing shorts. Pants for goodness sake. Also, what the rules you have are so bizarre. The the the look trumps everything. Everything trumps everything. It doesn’t It doesn’t It doesn’t because Well, for you, yes, for him it does. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Because he’s gonna have a worse time on the course because he can’t get around on his bad look good. I think he’ll be more mad. Hear me out, guys. I think this experience this week was a lesson from above. I think it was God’s way. He has Donnie boy, Donnie knee brace walking into a restaurant, no shirt, soaking wet. And it was a lesson for Chu to not give a rip. The lesson was Hold on. Hold on. Wherever you’re going, it doesn’t matter. Wear the knee brace for the knee pain. I think that’s what we have here. Give me a softer word than dork. Doofus. No, that’s stronger. That’s stronger. That’s stronger. Give me a softer word. Nerd. E. Put an E on the end of it. Nerd. E. Can we go a little lighter? Oh, okay. I’m just as part of as part of what you’re worried about. You were a highle athlete. You went to three Pro Bowls. You played in the NFL for almost a decade. So, like there’s there’s a little embarrassment. If an athlete of your caliber has to put on a knee sleeve to play golf, is that is that part of this? Wait. All old athletes are hobbling around with braces of some sort. Yeah. But I don’t abuse your body. See, that’s the next part. The knee brace to me is worth six shots if I really cared, right? If it was going to improve my game by six shots, yeah, I might wear the knee brace. One one We got some things to go over here. One year old. Get over it. I don’t think 56 old. I mean, I What we’re figuring out here is Chewy is truly like Shrek. He’s an ogre that has layers. We’re peeling back. We’re peeling back these layers trying to get to the core of what the true issue is and why he won’t near wear a knee brace while he’s playing golf. Josh, if you came in anything other than a hat and a flannel, I’d be like, “What are you doing?” I’m not wearing flannel today, smart guy. I got my long sleeve skirt on. Yeah. And this fits his look. Yes. Like white socks with Jerusalem cruisers. Not a lot of people can pull that off. I certainly couldn’t. But for for the for the people playing at home, can we remind everybody what Jerusalem cruisers are? Birkenstocks. But mine are the actual clogs, not the not the sandals. Jerusalem cruisers are usually the two strap sand. I’m telling you too, I think the lesson here in this experience you had was to not care so much about how what you look like or what people think. You know, Donnie boy is walking into a restaurant soaking wet, drenched after falling on a trail, you know, and you’re over here going, “I don’t want to put a knee brace on. People might make fun of me.” Yeah, but Don’s personality fits it. That’s why I’m looking for the softer word. Yeah. But here’s the thing. You’re very recognizable. People look at you and go, “Oh, I know who that guy is. I remember him.” Not always. They’re like, “He’s big and he’s this. He had to have done something.” They might not. You know what I mean? But the knee brace makes sense. No. Then they’re gonna go, “Yeah, division three played at Oshkot.” See, this is the problem. What’s wrong with playing at Ash? Nothing wrong. We This guy, he needs a couch. We got a couch session coming up for our guy. We’re unpacking a lot of stuff here this morning on Jen, Gabe, and Chewy. Uh, all warmed up, all stretched out, a lot of stuff to get to this morning. Obviously, a very big weekend as the Brewers sweep the Nationals again. What if they won seven straight? If it weren’t for the Boston Red Sox, winning 10 straight, I feel like they’d be a national story. But alas, the national media still ignoring the Milwaukee Brewers. Jacob Miserowski was named to the All-Star team. And apparently people had problems with that. We’ll get into all of that this morning on Jen, Gabe, and Chewy. Stick around. Let me tell you about our friends at Pella Windows and Doors of Wisconsin. I know everybody was out there last week. I was bummed that I missed it because the Pella Experience Center lets you see, feel, open, close, and compare dozens of windows and door options. And I I I’d been out there before. I’ve checked out all the different options. It’s great because you get all these customizable options. 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It’s the only thing that makes my mouth water other than my wife on 945 ESPN. What a weekend it was for the Milwaukee Brewers. My goodness, are they on a tear, winners of seven straight. Obviously, we talked about them sweeping the Dodgers. Then they go out there and sweep the Nationals. And Woodruff was back on the hill this weekend. Freddy Peralta back on the hill this weekend. Woodruff back at Amfam Field almost at Miller Park out of Autopilot. Uh it was a great weekend. And to me, the highlight in addition to the team doing so well, putting together a lot of really good games, was Jacob Miserowski being named to the All-Star game. So Jacob Morowski of course has made five starts in Major League Baseball. He has been phenomenal. Save one, but he bounced back from that outing and really showed that he is uh one of the top most exciting pitchers, one of the top players, exciting players in Major League Baseball right now. Take a listen to Jacob Miserowski reacting to being named to the All-Star game. Yeah. I mean, I’m speechless. I mean, it’s it’s awesome. It’s uh yeah, very unexpected and uh it’s an honor. You can tell you’re emotional. Yeah. You were emotional when you got the news. What What are you thinking about to get this news? Yeah. I mean, it’s just it’s been a long time coming and uh you know, I just want to honor the guys around me and you know, be a brewer. In your wildest dreams coming into this season, could you envision something like this happening? No, not even close. How How did they break the news to you? What What happened? got called in to the Mer office and uh sitting in there and he said, “Hey, close the door. Come on, get in here and yeah, basically broke it to me and I had to sit there the whole game and not tell anyone.” So, if you can’t tell from that audio, Mizowski’s got tears in his eyes. He is visibly emotional. It means a lot to the 23-year-old kid. And he had about how long, Gabe, would you say he had to enjoy it before all of a sudden there were stories of how there were other teams, other players who thought it was BS that this young kid had been named to the All-Star game. Yeah, that was the Phillies right away on Saturday morning. So, we found out about this on Friday. Following morning, there’s an article out on The Athletic about how um I believe Nick Castianos compared the All-Star game to a Savannah Bananas uh game. Uh Trey Turner uh basically said it was a joke uh because he thought there were a couple of pitchers uh on their team that had earned the honor over Mizowski. Uh what those players failed to mention, but luckily the article did is that both those pitchers and then also Zack Wheeler, who declined to play in the All-Star game, had opportunities to play and they went, “Nah, I’m good.” All right, I’ll say this. It’s no fault of the kid. No, not his fault whatsoever. Okay, good for him. Great. But kind of agree with the Phillies. Well, no, but after six games but if if I got beat out in a Pro Bowl voting by someone who played five games and Chewy, it would be like if you got beat out by a Pro Bowl because you said no. They came to you and said, “Hey, do you want to play?” So, he was the next alternate. No. So the so what it came out to was that 12 pitchers had been asked before Mizarowski to fill the spot that was available and they all declined. Now listen, that’s your prerogative, right? If you want to spend those four or five days, whatever it ends up being, depending on when your team plays last with your family, on vacation, taking a mental, physical break, you are absolutely well within your right to do just that. But what you can’t do then is crab about or have your teammates crab about or other players crab about the fact that this young kid said yes. Like Oh, I didn’t know that. I thought he just got voted in. Oh, then that that that’s on them. That’s on the Phillies, you know. And one guy was kind of, you know, upset because he had a $200,000 bonus which the Phillies ended up paying out. Oh, I thought it was 50. Whoa. 200 is way higher than I thought it was. Yeah, it was 200k. Like how many games has a top like Freddy, how many games has he 20? He’s pitched 20 games this year. And he’s only pitched six. But I got, you know, if 12 guys say no and you’re the next Well, because the other thing that I I don’t think athletes realize this enough when they’re in and and Chewy, you could tell me if I’m wrong about this because first and foremost, I know the athletes don’t treat it like this, maybe some do, but to the owners, to everybody else, like this is a form of entertainment. Like first and foremost, sports are entertainment. Yeah. their competition. Yes. And that’s the the the form of entertainment that people want to tune in and watch. But I don’t think you anybody can argue that Jacob Miserowski throwing 102 miles an hour on Tuesday night isn’t going to be entertaining. Especially if he gets one of the big marquee matchups. If he gets to go up against somebody like Cal Raleigh or Aaron Judge from the American League and now he gets to go out there and throw a couple ofund two mph heaters. Yeah. Like people are going to want to see that and that’s entertaining. like so good on baseball for promoting a young star, a young upand cominging star and putting him in a position that he can shine in the All-Star game. Well, and it’s like anything else, guys. You get to a certain point in your career, and maybe some of these things feel like obligations. Maybe they don’t feel as exciting or as novel as they did at the beginning, and that’s fine as well. Look, like I said, if you choose to take those days off, go hang out with your family, go to the beach, go, you know what I mean, get away. That makes sense to me as well. But what I don’t love is that there were guys popping off, running their mouth, and taking this moment away from Miserowski, right? I feel a little protective, right? He’s a 23-year-old kid. If you watch the entire video of him standing at his locker, you can’t help but feel emotional yourself because it clearly means so much to him. So, I hated that within 24 hours you had guys in the league who I’m not saying you got to root for Miserowski because obviously he’s on another team and his success might affect your team’s success in the end, but but at the very least be informed. At the very least, understand the dynamic and understand the logistics of what went on before you do steal some of the joy, you know. And again, good on the Brewers. I don’t he didn’t have to defend himself or anything like that. But you’re telling me that Mizowski opening up social or some of his pals are telling him about how the Phillies are running their mouths and saying that again I don’t think it was specifically about him. It was more about how it all shook out. But they clearly were uninformed about other players turning down the opportunity that Mizowski accepted. Well, like I was, you know, let’s say they didn’t turn it down. Let’s just say they didn’t turn it. Yeah. There was 12 guy. he was at the top of that list, then you guys would have a problem with it, right? I I I would understand the frustration. Okay. I I would still stand by my So these pitchers, you know, these these other pitchers from Philly, they’re having great seasons, obviously. I mean, the Phillies are one of the best teams in the National League. Great. But if baseball decided to make a business decision of, hey, more people probably know who Mizowski is right now because he’s hot. He’s, you know, he just m he’s matched up with skins had a nationally televised game against Clayton Kershaw on the Dodgers and he delivered, hey, let’s strike while the irons hot and for one of our replacements, let’s put him in the All-Star game. I I I understand that a lot of player and obviously one player here did have contract ties to making All-Star games. Yeah. But these at the end of the day are exhibitions and they are for entertainment purposes only. And if more people know who Jacob Miserowski is, that’s better for baseball that he’s in the All-Star game and pitches in the All-Star game because it draws more attention. Well, I had the same thing happen to me in my fourth year cuz I I came out of nowhere, made the Pro Bowl, and Brent Jones, remember Brent Jones? It was always him and Jay Novichek. Yeah. And I got the nod over Brent Jones who went to like the last two or three Pro Bowls and he bum wrapped me even though my stats were were much better than his and he wound up it it was awkward because Jay Novachek declined cuz they went to the Super Bowl that year. Declined the Pro Bowl. So Brent Jones was now my backup cuz he was the first alternate. But he apologized. He’s like, he was like, I was out of line. I was just having a bad day and good on him. Yeah. So, it was good on him. And I don’t care. I don’t hold grudges. I also think it’s a risky move by the Phillies, guys. You laugh there. Uh, that wasn’t a laugh. That was a That was That was a scoff. Yeah, she was scoffing at the notion that you don’t hold grudges. I don’t think I do. Okay. How How’s your relationship with Ashy going right now? Well, he’s a rat. I guess who piled on but Gabe because he took my worst putt out at Pella insteading taking the one that I put to within five feet to win the match. You know, I mean, I just all I said this morning, Jen, was it looked like you guys had a good time out at Bella Windows and Doors on Thursday. However, his putting looked a little out of practice cuz he was really pulling his putts. It was the first one. Grudgeless Chamura over there making my case for me. I do think it’s a risky move by the Phillies though, guys. And hear me out. Like this Brewers team, man, they have each other’s backs. That’s been obvious from day one. They obviously we’ve thrown together and we’ll continue talking about the Brewers. 56 wins before the All-Star break. I believe that sets a franchise record. Uh you come after their guy, their young kid. I feel like they’re going to hold on to this too. You talk about holding on to grudges. I feel like if the Brewers and Phillies face off, and there’s a chance that they will down the road in the playoffs, Brewers is going to use this as a little bit of motivation. You know, there’s a part of me that feels like you came after our guy. You try to take away his joy, take away, you know, r on his parade a little bit. I feel like the Brewers might hang on to this and have some choice words and uh choice reaction for the Phillies down the stretch. Labor Day weekend, Jen, Labor, Well, not weekend, Labor Day Monday, they start a three-game series with the Phillies here in Milwaukee. Didn’t Hoskins play for the Phillies? He did. Yeah. Bobby knows a bunch of those guys. Will Hoskins be back by then? What’ you say the date? Oh, Labor Day back. Yeah. End of August is when he’s expected back. 800990 3776. Your reaction to Jacob Miserowski being named to the All-Star game of just five starts, but wow, those five starts have been really impressive. We heard from him just a few moments ago. And we’ll continue talking about your Milwaukee Brewers because they are on a tear. I mentioned the Boston Red Sox. 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That’s great Midwestbank.com. Let’s just pick June 1st for funsies. Since June 1st, the Brewers have the best record in the National League. In fact, only two teams in Major League Baseball have a better record since June 1st than the Milwaukee Brewers. Uh what they’re doing has been impressive. What they are doing has been incredible. It has been electric. It has been exciting. And now guys, I think we are in the space where we can say World Series. Say World Series. Say the words. Say this team could be in the World Series. And I know it’s still early. I know we’re not sitting here, you know, after the All-Star break. But 56 wins before the All-Star break, Gabe, has given me the confidence. Uh, and maybe it’s Hutzba as we talked about Chewy’s pal a little bit earlier, but it’s giving me the confidence to be able to say World Series. What’s up? We were a little distracted. I’m sorry. Did you guys hear what I said about just put my headphones on a second ago? A number of different things were going on. It’s But I’m going to blame golf. We were talking about golf. It’s Monday. Okay, now go. I’m not going to repeat everything I just said. All right. Bunch of buffoons over there just doing radio to myself. Apparently, I was watching I was listening to you and watching them going, I don’t know if they know we’re back. We’ve been back for a minute and a half. No way. I did a read. I did a whole thing about the Brewers having the best record in the National League since June 1st. Only two teams in Major League Baseball have a better record. I blame I blame Joshy for not producing us. He should have told us we were bad. Yeah, your fault. Josh, you told me we were back. I was I was lying. Well, you told one person in your ears. This is weird. I mean, we were chatting. All right. Can we chat about the Milwaukee Brewers or do you want to chat about something else? Gabe, are you comfortable saying the words World Series when it comes to this Milwaukee Brewers team now that they could be a World Series team? Um, I think to be Now, again, in baseball things are weird, right? like you can get hot at the right time. And I mean, they’ve been riding some of that. Like Andrew Vaughn, who knew that Andrew Vaughn was going to help carry this team for a week and be part of their sevename winning streak. I don’t know if that’s going to continue because that dude really struggled for the better part of two years before getting traded to the Brewers. I I if they had one more bat in this lineup, I mean, they could be looked at as and I know Jeff Pass said this last week when he was on Willian. If they had one more legitimate bat, like with power is what I’m talking about in terms of legitimate bat in the middle of that lineup, they would be looked at as legitimate threats with what they have in the starting staff, the bullpen, and then the lineup. I I’m still worried about the lineup being able to come through in a three-game series because that’s what they would be at right now. They would be a three-game series, have to play the wild card round. If they can continue to get hot and get one of those buys, man, those those buys that that would be huge because now you don’t have that pressure of all right, you got to win two out of three otherwise that’s it. Now it’s okay, you can win three out of five. You can get to that divisional round. Do you have to be a buyer though? Because I’m sure the Cubs are going to do something. I’m sure. I’m sure there are a lot of teams that would love to buy. And here’s the tricky part. Like Jen, you mentioned the Red Sox a week ago. The Red Sox were probably sellers. Okay, what are we gonna do with Bregman? I mean, he’s he’s got an option, but I mean, we traded away. It didn’t really work out. They were going to be sellers. They were going to potentially sell off some pieces. Then they got hot. Now, they’re right in the middle of the wild card in the American League. Like, and a Breu was a bat that people were talking about from the Red Sox that the Brewers could potentially acquire. So, that does change that dynamic. But so so that’s the problem right now is with the addition of the extra playoff teams and both leagues being really competitive, there’s not going to be a ton out there to buy. I I also think though on the other hand, a team no one thought was necessarily going to be sellers. Apparently all the Diamondbacks are available except for Qu Carol. Yeah. Yeah. So that like it it’s a double-edged sword. And what happens every year is one team no one thinks should be buying is buying everyone they can and the team that everyone’s like, “Well, I think they’re pretty good.” Ends up being sellers. It’s all about finding the right deal and the right guy that makes sense for your squad on literally it seems like the week of the trade deadline. The thing because yes, I think teams are going to wait just to see exactly where they are. And in terms of the Diamondbacks like Yuanio Suarez is a bat that Dude’s got 31 home runs right now. He’s going to be a free agent at the end of the year. Is there going to be a bidding war for him? Is that going to get too rich for the Brewers blood? Yeah. See, that’s the thing. Like, we had talked about CC Sabathia Adnauseia when it comes to the Brewers history and how they went out and got him knowing he would be a free agent at the end of that season. I don’t know if I want the Brewers in a situation like that where they’re basically going out and renting a player for the second half of the season, likely not being able to retain them after that. I don’t know if that’s part of their business model. Are the Cardinals buyers at six and a half back? Maybe. That’s why I think it comes down chewy to like Josh said, that’s why it’s going to ultimately come down to okay, what do you do right away out of the All-Star break? Like teams are going to have to make these decisions and they’re going to wait as long as humanly possible because you used to also in baseball have the waiver trade deadline which was a month later. They’ve gotten rid of that. So this is the last chance you’ve got to get a player from another organization unless somebody inexplicably gets cut in the last month this season. I hear you that you are pro buy Gabe. Are you concerned at all about buying and then messing up the chemistry the lineup that you currently have? Look, we had said while you were gone that yes, Andrew Vaughn’s production has been impressive. And I said maybe he can be that bat. Maybe he needed a change of scenery and so far he’s been delivering. Your hesitancy seems to be that he’s not going to be able to keep it up. And I hear that from a lot of people when it comes to Andrew Vaughn. But are you worried at all about you go out and get a guy who then has to play a position that you’ve got guys who have been playing well at that position and you start to mess with the chemistry which by the way has been really good for the Milwaukee Brewers over the last few months. I think guys understand it. I mean we did for like you remember Robert Brooks goes goes down the Super Bowl year and we’re like oh man what do we do? And then there was talk of bringing Ryzen in and Andre I think he did he get cut by Cleveland but there was still that like he is going to come in and destroy the locker room you know and I forget who the next man up was before Ryzen got there. They understand Terry Mickens might have been Terry Mickens but he came in and he was fine. He just, you know, their locker room is strong enough to where if they brought in anyone players know I I think we here have learned a very specific message of when the Josh hater trade happened and it ruined the team. I think the inverse happens when you see your front office decide these guys are good and we want to invest in them. I think it has like the exact opposite effect of it invigorates the team. It gives them a little more juice. Sure. one guy now is not going to have his job that likely was starting or getting more regular at bats, Caleb Durban. But all those other guys, the Christian Yaliches, Jackson Cheurio, uh Bryce Terang, Sal Freelick, they all look around and go they believe in us because what they told us the the hater trade gear was they don’t believe in us. And and I think it’s an easy conversation. Let’s say third. I mean, third base is something that Brewers fans have circled all year long and now Caleb Durban is playing really well there, but if if you invested in a power bat there and you were able to get somebody like Suarez, I think it’s an easy conversation of look, Caleb, you’re still going to be a big part of our future. You’re a young guy, but we had an opportunity to get somebody that does something that you can’t do and that’s hit a ton of home runs. Like, we love you. You’re still going to get at bats. You’re still because you can play second base, you can play third base. We can rotate guys around. We can be creative and still find ways to get you at bats, but we just looked at this as as an opportunity to improve this year’s team and and take a big swing. So, the only flip side of the coin that Joshy presented, and Joshy, I tend to agree with your assessment is if the Brewers don’t go out and get somebody, then do they interpret it as they don’t think we’re good enough or do you see it as we’ve got all we need? Yeah, I think it’s more that. I think if you sell and you end up trading somebody away, then people start looking around. But even with a like they set the franchise record for wins before the All-Star break, they know that there’s good and there’s something going on there. I don’t think you look at non-action as a negative. I think it’s you understand this is a business. The trade wasn’t there. We weren’t comfortable with the prices. I don’t think you totally go the other way and you just look around at the guys you have and say, “Well, some of us just need to step up.” Well, and and honestly, I know everybody, you know, in terms of player acquisition loves to talk about how the Brewers don’t necessarily do enough. They’re pretty active most trade deadlines when they feel like they’ve got a good enough team. Now, last year it was improving on the periphery, adding guys like Aaron Savale, you know, to the back part of the rotation so you could get more innings. you know, adding a guy like Marana a couple of years ago. Again, that’s a periphery move in terms of adding a bat to the lineup. So, I I I expect the Brewers to be active in one way or another because whether I mean again, Matt Arnold has shown whether it’s just a small move, hasn’t made that big splash move yet, he’s going to be active at the deadline if he thinks there’s a way to improve the team and give them a better chance for the rest of the season into the playoffs. A B player, not an A. Yeah, because again I think the A players are going to be I mean after Suarez it kind of again people thought maybe Bregman could have been available. Doesn’t look like that’s going to be the case for the Red Sox. Uh maybe Ryan McMahon from the Colorado Rockies is available who could be a bigger price because he’s got multiple years left on his deal. Um what would it take to get like a Bregman? Would it be really It’s hard to He his contract is such an interesting one because he’s got two options on it worth $40 million each year and teams don’t want to necessarily line up for that. That’s a lot of cash. Yeah. So, that’s what it would be complicated to trade him, which is why he’s also likely staying in Boston. I brought it up last week, but the trading the top prospects for uh rentals thing, that’s sort of gone away in a way where in baseball you used to buy a rental for like your first or second best guy. Now teams are are more reticent to give away those guys because they understand the team building thing and even like the big market teams aren’t doing it as much. So I don’t think the Brewers are necessarily going to have to give up their number one prospect to get significantly better at a at a position. The only way you would have to give up a number one prospect is for a young player. Yes. With years of control, right? Like a a [ __ ] or Okay, I don’t want to get into Brewers Twitter overreacting to a bad, you know, to a trade that was out there like. All right, so before we wrap this up, let me give you some of the names that are on the list of people that the Brewers could go after. You mentioned a Breu of the Red Sox, Ryan O’Harn of the Orioles, first baseman, outfielder. Taylor Ward of the Angels, outfielder, first baseman. And then we mentioned Suarez of the Dbacks. Gabe, rank those four options from most desirable to least desirable for me. Uh, I would go Suarez just because of the power. Oh, Hearn’s just a he’s a good hitter. Like his his home run totals, but it’s a rental. Yeah, it would be Yeah, he would be a rental. Uh, so I’d say Suarez. I’d go Oh, and then uh Taylor Ward after that and Noah Abrau because you don’t think he’ll be available. No, I don’t think Yeah, I don’t think the Red Sox are I mean, again, they’re they made everybody mad by trading de uh when they were competitive. Now they’re competitive again. I can’t imagine they’re going to sell off pieces. Uh I I think they would buy at this point uh more than anything else. Like Ward Ward’s interesting because he does have those home run totals. He’s over up over 20, but the the other numbers just kind of don’t add up. So there’s a lot of there’s a lot of swing and miss in there. 800993776. React to would you go out and get a bat? Here are some of the names that were out there. We just rattled them off. Would you go out and get a bat if you’re the Milwaukee Brewers or do you feel comfortable standing pat with what they have? Let us know. 800990 3776. 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Um, they get the hair dryer control on 945 ESPN. I’m sitting here in a radio studio in Bristol, Connecticut before our show got underway and I’m listening to Evan Cohen talk about his Netflix habits. Evan Cohen admits that he and his wife do not have separate accounts on Netflix. So, you know, like you can have one account on Netflix, but then when you go into Netflix, you can have one for Gabe and one for Z and one for Chew and one for An. And he said that his wife’s uh the their account keeps getting messed up because her preference in shows is different than his preference in shows and the algorithm is all screwed up. This to me feels like a very very very simple solution. Why is Evan Cohen not having separate what they’re not accounts? What are they called, guys? Separate users. Profiles. Yeah, profiles. What are we doing? Wait, do people do people have separate? I mean, I know you can, but people actually set those up. Yeah, this is lawless. Oh, no. The same one. Oh, me and Z use the same one. Oh my gosh. Yeah. I I don’t need to see every dating show possible on Netflix. I want the stuff I’m watching. I want Seinfeld right there at a click. Well, yeah. I mean, they’ve got the top 10 there. Top 10 shows, top 10 movies. Gabe, you should come over to our house and see the difference in profiles. It’s like they’re two different apps. The stuff I’m presented where she’s cuz I’ve clicked accidentally into hers and been like, “What is this stuff? What? Who’s You didn’t even realize it existed on Netflix. What world did I just walk into?” It’s a whole different You got to get different profiles. Why? Because I don’t want to watch Love Island or whatever corny dating show and I don’t want to be Love Island Love Peninsula. love ismas. You know, they got them all. We’re watching Slow Horses right now. And I don’t know who’s you never seen it. Oh, it’s on Apple. Yeah, it’s it’s very good. Like I’m more I’m more likely to watch a history documentary, a war documentary, something along those lines. And then when you watch those, it feeds you more of them that are on there. Do you watch TV together? No. You don’t watch TV? That’s weird. No, because we’re always like, “All right, who’s profile it on?” That way it picks up right where we left off. So you do have separate profiles, too, but you still watch shows together. So we do the same thing, but we certainly have different profiles because Daario’s taste in television is very different than my taste in television. And I want it to, like Joshy said, feed me other things that are similar to the things that I have enjoyed. And that’s why that’s why Go ahead. Do you guys do that on every app, not just Netflix? So on HBO Max, I don’t use Paramount. No, Netflix and Apple, I think, are the ones. But here’s what I will say. You gotta on Netflix thumbs up, thumbs down things. You gota thumbs up, thumbs down. You finish a show. Why? Yeah, I don’t know if I’m doing that either. I’ve never done that. Using the algorithm to its full power, to its full capabilities. I think watching the less the less Netflix knows about me, the more comfortable I am. Yeah, I got I got to break I got to break something to you, Gabe. I’m I’m fine. Yeah, look, I look I know they know some. I’m not volunteering more information whether or not I like the show. I’ll leave that to myself. I also think just watching a full season of stuff or watching a bunch of episodes in a row lends itself to even if you’re not thumbs uping they got a pretty good idea you’re enjoying. I hate watched it the way I did the entire season or the entire show of Entourage when that came out 20 years ago. That’s fair. But maybe I’m hate watching stuff. That’s that’s an option. But you can’t you got to have separate. I’m not sure how advanced the algorithm was 10 years ago though, gang. I’m not sure at that point it was really doing the data mining that it is doing now. I can’t believe that there are people in the year of our Lord 2025 who don’t have separate profiles on their Netflix account. We have Daario, we have Jen, we have Chase, our 16-year-old. We have kids, which is for the girls, and then we have Grandma for when grandma comes over. We try try to make it as easy as possible for her. She’s got her own profile on there. She could just go right to when right to the grandma logo, the grandma avatar. Yeah, but you only got so many profiles. Like I have to share mine with my daughter cuz it’s me, you know. You also have to pay that. Why? Cuz if you’re not within the uh range and the household thing, they crack down on people sharing passwords. So it charges you more when you’re out of state or not in the same address. Really? Uhhuh. Yeah. I didn’t know that. Not shocking. I think they’re probably keeping that from you. Well, we also know Chewy’s not the one who’s paying all the bills. I was going to say she’s got to keep it from Angie. What they got to do? It’s hard to pull a fast one on Angie. They’re keeping it from him because that could be used as well. She gets this. Why don’t I get to use Amazon? It’s all a negotiation. We have to remember that. Jen Gaboui rolls on. Full second hour coming your way into your state, your teams, your ESPN. The ESPN Wisconsin app. Find the ESPN Wisconsin app in the Apple or Android app stores today. More Jen, Gabe, and Chewy. Coming up on 945 ESPN. Southbound 41 backing up from just about Appleton Avenue down to Capitol. Northbound’s backing up from Mayfair Road up to Hampton. Southbound 43. Slow from Good Hope Road down past Silver Spring. On the northbound side, just north of Capitol Drive, you’re starting to slow down a little bit. Eastbound 94, watch for delays from 84th Street through the stadium to 35th. 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Reading is so like 1970. Who flipping reads anymore? They made me buy it. A hundred bucks this thing cost me. I got news for you. If it wasn’t for the toilet, there would be no books. They’re selling coffee brand muffins. You’re surrounded by reading material. It’s entropment. Watch your book instead of read it. Watch my book. It cuts out one whole process. When you read, you have to filter it through your brain and make a picture instead of the picture just being there for you. Yeah. I need to return this book. I’m sorry. We can’t take this book back. Why not? It’s been flagged. Flagged? It’s been in the bathroom. It says that on the computer. Please take it home. We don’t want it near the other books. This is Jen, Gabe, and Chewy. Broadcasting live from the Kruber Law Offices. One Call That’s All Studios at the Avenue with Gabe Nitel and Mark Jamara. Here’s Jen Lattis. The off season is the season of lists. Gotten a lot of them. Dove through many of them, analyzed many of them. We have been paying attention to the ESPN.com lists. And Gabe, I believe you have the most recent ones in front of you. You said that tight end was released recently and quarterback was recently released. What were their findings? Uh so on the Yeah, so tight ends, interior offensive linemen, offensive tackles, the last ones that have been gone and then quarterbacks came out today. Uh so I thought for tight ends, maybe Tucker Craft could sneak into the back end of the top 10 there. Uh not even close. Uh so he was not even in the honorable mention category that ESPN does for these the ones that are just outside the top 10. He fell in the others receiving votes category. Uh for interior offensive lineman, Elton Jenkins came in at nine, making him the third Packer to make one of these lists that ESPN.com has put out. And then today, quarterbacks. Top 10 quarterbacks in the NFL. Anybody think Jordan Love made it? Nope. Did you already look? Uh I heard you talking. Oh, now you’re listening. But he shouldn’t be in it. Uh yeah. So tell me uh tell me someone who he should replace on the list. Uh yeah, look, so he comes in I think it’s safe to assume the way that they did this is the next two highest vote getters were CJ Stout and Jordan Love. So I think he comes in at number 12, which seems fair to me. For Jordan, the only one that I’m getting a little tired of is Justin Herbert because he doesn’t do anything, right? a lot of I mean eventually you got to get to a playoff game and win some pretty big games. You don’t give him a pass for last year since it was Harbaugh’s first year. You do, but I don’t he what has he done? He’s like Mike Trout. You’ve done nothing. Nothing at all. Mike Mike Trout at least won MVPs. Like if Justin Herbert hadn’t won anything but had won MVPs, I would I would understand his inclusion on this list. Herbert’s good, but it’s just like come on. Well, and and also like my favorite thing that they do here is the highest ranking and lowest ranking. Like who on earth is looking at the I thought the top four quarterbacks in the NFL were pretty undisputed. Like maybe you can jumble them around and put them in whatever order you wanted. Yeah. But somebody ranked Justin Herbert as the third best quarterback in this league. Wow. No. No. Which is insane to me. Do you Do you have a problem with Baker Mayfield at 10? No. Because he’s been Now Sheffy this last week says, “I don’t understand why people don’t like Tampa Bay.” He’s Baker Mayfield has been fantastic the last two seasons. So ever since but new offensive coordinator I mean is the situation the way we talk about Jared Goff all the time where Jared Goff’s game took another step when he had Ben Johnson calling plays for him. Maybe Liam Cohen had the same effect on Baker Mayfield. I don’t know. But Liam Cohen’s no longer there. He’s now a head coach in Jacksonville. Yeah. Do you like Matthew Stafford being at number six? I’m fine with that. He had a good year last year. didn’t end well, but I think he had a hell of a year. Yeah, I I I mean, if you wanted to tell me that Stafford and he’s not the highest rated NFC quarterback on this list, but if you told me Stafford was like, I wouldn’t have a problem with it. I think there’s a little of him drafting off the Super Bowl win that’s doing a lot of heavy lifting. I think so, too, Josh. I think he’s mostly fine to good. His issue is staying healthy. Yes. Yeah. like when he’s out there, he’s I mean and and I think he’s also drafting off of they gave the Eagles the best game that they had in the postseason last year. And I also think because of his offense, it caters to him specifically very well or some other players on that list might not have offenses as catered to their who who’s better golf or Stafford? Oh, Stafford. Stafford, I think. So, one of those guys is a Hall of Famer. The other is not that big. One of those guys is a Hall of Famer and one is not. Goff. Well, and famously Goff won it head-to-head. That’s being uh rehashed on quarterback the second season which I am watching. What I don’t what I also agreed with in the Matthew Stafford conversation was 17.6% of his throws were considered offtarget. Second worst such clip amongst those who received at least a vote. Feels high. 17% offtarget throws for a guy that everybody is lauding as one of the greatest in the game right now. future Hall of Famer. Again, maybe he’s on the backside. Maybe there’s a slide happening. Uh Jaylen Herz at number nine was a little surprising to me considering he led uh the Eagles to the Super Bowl last year. I could make a case for him being higher on this list. Um I would put I would certainly put him ahead of Herbert at this point. Yeah, I would too. It seems like Jaylen Herd’s going to have to keep winning Super Bowls and Justin Herbert just has to be on bad teams but like look good at times. Yeah, it’s a great point by you. I mean because Herbert is it’s all about the tools. like he is the tooliest quarterback on the list. Like he’s he’s got the prototypical size. The mechanics are great. Arm is big. He’s got some athleticism. Yeah, there are times he looks like a top five quarterback. The problem is that’s like once every four or five games and his team doesn’t win all that much. Is Lamar fair at four? Personally, I would have Lamar higher. I think he’s the most dynamic quarterback in the league. Is Joe Burrow a little bit? What have you done for me lately? Joe Burrow’s so freaking good. I can’t. Yeah, I I I understand what you’re saying, Chu. However, that defense is trash. And the only thing they had going for it, they decided to piss off with contract negotiations this year, right? Like when you’re when you are constantly putting up 30 plus points per game and losing those games. I I don’t I can’t put that on Joe B. Lamar is like his numbers are unbelievable every year. He probably should have won the MVP last year. Agreed. I don’t know, man. I’m almost I’m almost taking Lamar behind Mahomes. Yeah, I would I would say Lamar to me. To me, I would go Mahomes, Lamar, Allen, and and Burrow. All right. Don’t be And then would you go Jaylen Herz at five or would you go Jaden Daniels the way that they did? I I think five is high for Daniels. I liked Herz at five instead of Daniels. That’s what I’m saying. I would have moved Herz up to five. I think you I think you could make a very good argument for that, Jen. Just flip-flop them. Yeah. Who’s better, Stout or Love? Well, neither made the top 10, right? But they were the two honorable mentions. Yeah. Which I think makes sense. Well, who do you who’s 11? Who’s 12? I think if you’re I think if you’re convicted on either one of them, you’re using some sort of bias. I think it’s very close. I don’t I don’t know if there’s anything that differentiates them in a any real way. I I would Yeah. Well, did Straoud have that stretch Love had over the Straoud hasn’t had that, but Stout’s been more consistent over the course of the two years. Like the ceiling certainly, I think you can make the argument is is has been higher for Love. Remember what they looked like against the Packers? Yeah, that was unbeliev Like bad. Yeah, but they didn’t have their receivers. I mean, they didn’t have Nico Collins. I think they were missing a couple other receivers, too. He didn’t have his weapons. And they did look bad. They also won a playoff game this year. Yes. It’s funny because the closer we get to the season, gang, the more I hear people reminding us that Jordan Love was injured last year. I see a lot of people, a lot of pundits, a lot of analysts who keep saying, “Don’t forget Jordan Love was dealing with the knee injury.” Now, this article mentions that as well, but I feel like I’ve heard it more percentage-wise to defend some of the struggles last season. It feels to me like people want Jordan Love to be better, want Jordan Love to regain that end of the season 2023 uh caliber play and that they’re willing to say that last year’s struggles were mostly due to the injury. Are you guys hearing that? Are you seeing that phenomenon as well? It seems to be the first thing that any and no matter what list you’re looking at, Jen, or whatever article comes out about Jordan, yeah, I I feel like that comes up. But I I think we got to stay consistent in this. Yeah, that was great for last year. I am willing to give him a pass on that a year ago. Guys play hurt in this league all the time. You have to f if you want to truly be one of the best quarterbacks in the league, you have to find a way to continue to play at your expected level even though you’re hurt. I think the large phenomenon that’s happening there is we get away from the season. We don’t really remember exactly what happened. We look at stats and go, “Wow, that’s all he had for passing yards and touchdown passes.” And people are like, “Well, he’s not as good as I thought.” And then you have to remind them, well, he didn’t play all the games. He missed significant time and there was an injury that nagged him for large parts of the season. I think it’s it’s one a convenient excuse, but it’s also people just I mean, you can’t be locked into all 32 teams, so you don’t know the context of everyone’s season, so people have to say, “Well, yeah, he doesn’t have the passing yards you would hope for because he wasn’t playing for two games.” He’s still got to be better. Yes, agreed. Yeah. If the Packers want to be a better team, he’s when this list comes out next year, he’s got to be in that top 10. Well, so let’s do that for the end of this season. Where does he have to fall in this list for the Packers to be where they want to be this year? Does he have to play a top five quarterback? Could he go top seven? Yeah. Ninth Super Bowl win all to win it all. Where they put Jaylen Herz? Yeah. Apparently, you have to just be ninth. Are you saying to win it all? Yeah, but that’s a different roster. Would Yeah. Yeah. I think five to 10 after those top four guys, he would need to have to be there. Yeah. I if if he gets to if he’s seven on this list next year, I think the Packers probably made an NFC Championship game. Um I don’t know because again the the top four are kind of locked in. I mean, but we’re sitting here saying Detroit’s winning the division. Uh I I which means wild card. Yep. home. So, you got to win two playoff games to get to the NFC. Yeah. Yeah. So, if he ends up at like six or seven on this list, I think that means they probably he played well enough to surpass some of those other guys. I got to chew on that a little bit. Oh, yeah. You do. There it is. What? What? What? He’s funny. You’re a character. What? What are you chewing on here? Nah. Yeah. I want to chew on my cords. That’s What are you you rat puppy? Wait. I used to I used to have peach pits in my mouth for hours and hours and hours until I heard the middle was poisonous. Is that true? Is it? I believe that’s what that won’t kill you though right away. Well, no. And you would need to consume a lot of them and eat them. Yeah. You didn’t know that? Uh that you used to keep peach pits in your mouth for hours at a time. No, I did not know that. I was unaware. I knew that. You’ve told I knew that as well. And I knew about the arsenic. And I knew the chewy thought. If you ate one, it could be poisonous. Four crowns cuz I chew ice and then I crack my teeth. We told you you’re not supposed to do that. Wait, didn’t Gabe have an intervention with me years ago about chewing ice? Tried to. I don’t remember. It worked. I don’t chew ice anymore. All right, good. Really? There you go. That’s your claim to fame, Gabe Knight. You got Jed successfully got to stop. Yeah, but the nice thing is if you get crowns, fly a banner in the studio. If you get crowns, then you don’t need you don’t get cavities. Yep. You have Superman teeth. So, I asked the dentist if I could just get all my teeth crowned, but the NFL only pays for one a year. I was about to say. And the dentist said, “Sure, I will take all of your money.” So, Chewy’s getting a crown a year. Almost got a full set. Then I don’t even think I’d need to go to the dentist cuz the only reason you go to the dentist are for Make sure you don’t have cavities. But clean. They’ve got they’ve got they’ve got some good Yeah, they’ve got some good like tools to help clean thumbs. I Hey, I’m on to something here. Okay, I don’t roll with me. I don’t think so. Very rarely. You’re on to getting a crown here. What a scheme. Why not just get dentures at that point? Cuz I like my teeth. Oh, cuz you don’t want to seem like you’re old. Well, you like half of your teeth. You don’t like the tops, apparently. You’re willing to replace those one crown at a time. What does it cost? I veneers look ridiculous though. But are they expensive? I have no idea. I have never looked into it. Yeah. Okay. Like how was expensive? 10 grand. It’s like Lasic. You can get it for a steal. If you show up with Rex Ryan teeth, I will pick on you relentlessly. Oh, the guy from the Tvago commercial is the absolute worst. Oh, I don’t know if I’ve seen the Oh my gosh. Well, once you see it, Jen, you you can’t unsee it. Oh, it’s terrible. Because for a very long time the example of veneers was Matt Dylan from there’s something about marriage right like he was the example and you had a bunch of athletes getting them. Jay Cutler for a while it was like whoa new smile question mark question mark. Yeah. Uh anyway finding the right home is a journey. Sometimes quick sometimes patient but it should always be exciting. The Well Group at Keller Williams understands that they’re not just about closing deals. 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That’s betterhelp hu. Did you have the same reaction to the news that the Bears were extending Ryan Poles as Gabe did, which is thank goodness they have not been that great with Ryan Ples leading the charge. I lean towards more the blame being put on Eberloose, but you’re right. Was it? Whose fault was it that he made some good moves? Maybe. I mean, who’s the receiver from Carolina? Oh, yeah. DJ Moore like that. Keenan Allen. Good move. Uh, their D is always solid. Allen’s still a free agent right now. No, I know. But they had him there last year. Uh, they draft the Loveland, the tight end, Michigan out of Michigan. So, they’re clearly going to go to more of a a two tight end. He hasn’t been horrible. Not have he he’s made some decent and 36. No, I know. But Ira Fle was terrible. He should have fired him before last year. That way Caleb Williams comes in with a fresh crop and doesn’t waste a year. You just you just literally threw away a year of the number one overall pick. He actively decided to do that. Yeah. Yeah. Like after not learning the lesson of when he came in when they had Justin Fields. Like how do you not learn that lesson? No, I know. And I’m anti- Gush for now on. I’m not, you know, I’m just anti- Gush. But you got to say that Ben Johnson Well, how many times Well, this is great for me. Like, I love this because the Bears thought they won the off season and they were, like you said, I think they made a couple of decent moves. I mean, of course, then they had to do something to get in their own way, like giving an unexplained three-year extension to a guy who had two years left on his contract. Do you think though that he’s just riding the Ben Johnson hire, the fact that he was able to steal Ben Johnson away from the Lions, which everybody said was years in the making, right? There was talk that Ben Johnson was the guy when they drafted Caleb Williams and then they just decided to Ben Johnson wanted one more kick at the cat to use Chewy’s phrase with the Detroit Lions, see if they could win the title and then took the job this year. Do you think that it was the Ben Johnson move that locked up polls going forward? Well, yeah, they wanted to align the quarterback and coach contracts because Ben Johnson’s under contract through the 29 season. And so they the Bears ownership decided, hey, let’s lock in our GM and our coach together and that’s the only thing. But even that to me doesn’t defend the decision because he had two years left. Like you didn’t have to make this move. You’re undecided. You haven’t been that successful with him as your general manager. Why not wait a year and then go, okay, yeah, this actually is our guy. He made some good moves this off. Is that a snub to the Packers though who had policy said no because Laflur and Goody have two years left on on good spend all your good spend all your money on a bad GM. I mean and you look Tampa Bay extended their GM and head coach. Uh yeah I’m just saying remember do they have a right to be upset? I’m talking goody and I I mean I think you do from you’re trying to earn as much money, guarantee yourself as long a career as possible, but remember during that conversation we were saying, well, if the Packers don’t extend them and decide to move on from them after the quote unquote lame duck year, both those guys would be leading candidates for the openings that that happened in the offseason. Ryan Ples ain’t that. If Ryan Ples got fired in the middle of this season or his contract ran out, nobody’s kicking down the door for Oh, hold on. What do you do if you’re at policy next year and Packers have the exact same year they did last year? Uh, losing the first round of the playoffs. Small extensions. Yeah, but if you’re Laflu and Guty going, I’m not signing it. I’ll become a free agent, too. Laflur get picked up in a heartbeat. It’s a gamble. I mean, that’s what I would do. Yeah. I mean, if you want to gamble them yourself, you can certainly do that. Doesn’t this just come down to what we talk about so often in sports, the variance of expectations? The expectations are very different in Green Bay from what they are in Chicago. In Chicago, there is giddiness over, you know, a playoff appearance, right? Whereas in Green Bay, a playoff appearance isn’t good enough. A playoff appearance is falling short. Um, I just can’t help but wonder how the Bears justify the extension based on the on the- field performance. Like the team has underperformed on the field. And to your point, Gabe, there’s a lot of reasons why. You can figure out how you want to split the pie, but at the end of the day, isn’t the GM very responsible for the way that things turn up on the field? And the fact that they have stunk while polls has been the general manager makes it seem a little aggressive to lock up a guy who hasn’t been able to put a winning team on the field. But if you watch Hard Knocks, Chicago was Hard Knocks last year, I believe. Polls and Jen, who is the old Big 10 commissioner who’s now the president? Oh, Warren. They’re guys. Kevin Warren. Yeah, they’re guys. Does head policy give Ryan Polls the extension? No, no, but if you watch Hard Knocks, like they’re spending a lot of time together, you know, to this point, I have no evidence that what the Bears are doing is better, more well thought out, or better for team building than the Packers. Nothing they do, nothing they do organizationally would make me go, maybe we should do something more like the Bears. Nope. Not a thing. No. When it should be the other way around. You know, that’s why I’m hiring the lowhanging fruit in Green Bay and saying, “Hey, let’s go come to Chicago.” If you’re a GM, though, how long can you sell your plan? Because it seems like that’s what these GMs are doing, right? They’re saying, “Look, it’s not going to happen overnight. Rome wasn’t built in a year. Give me x number of seasons.” Whether that’s three, whether that’s five, whether you can somehow convince somebody to hang with you for longer than that, I don’t know. But doesn’t it feel like that’s what Gy has been pushing towards, right? Like like it wasn’t supposed to be last year that was sort of a I’m sorry, the year before that was sort of gravy, right? That was like we didn’t expect the Packers to have that level of success and beat Dallas and you know what I mean? That was all gravy in Goody’s plan. Do you think Ryan Poles is selling his guy Kevin Warren on a three-year plan, a fiveyear plan, now being in lock step with Ben Johnson? Well, Goody got a reset. He got a reset once he got rid of Rogers. Then it was like, okay, we’re even though they didn’t say rebuilding, everyone knew they were rebuilding and he got a reset. If if they did the exact same and Rogers never have left, Gy would have been fired by now. Oh, yeah. He would have been fired by now. But you his future is more tied to Guty’s future is tied to Jordan Love because it’s his. Yeah, because that’s his guy. So it’s the same thing in Chicago. Like Ryan Ples is tied to Caleb Williams. If Caleb Williams is actually successful, polls will get to stick around. If Caleb Williams said stinking, then polls will stick. That’s why I think you wait. That’s why you wait until at least the end of this season. See how the Caleb Williams Ben Johnson experiment works. And if you have some, you know, reason for optimism going forward, that’s what the Bears should have done. Well, yeah, but when you’re, you know, a franchise that consistently makes bad decisions, what do we call them, Gabe? Uh, I mean, I mean, they’re an unserious franchise. This is this is what unserious teams do. Oh, hey, you’ve won 15 games. You’ve won less than a third of your games. Yeah, let’s reward you with an extension. That’s what unserious teams do. Who was the last D? What would good coach? What do you call the floor? No, that waited out free agency as a coach and said, you know what, I’m going to wait one more year and I’m going to become a free agent. Doesn’t happen. It doesn’t happen. I mean, it happened with McCarthy, but I don’t think that was his choice in Dallas. I just don’t know if they make playoffs list next year, losing the first round. Yeah. I mean, they’re not going to offer him a lot of money. Well, they’ll offer him like the same money. They’ll they’ll just extend him by two years. Yeah. But what if Florida says, “Screw it. I know I’m better than this. I can go to the Raiders or whatever and break the bank.” I mean, so again, it depends upon what’s important to you as Laflur because chances are if you don’t accept a let’s just call it a two-year extension. Again, this is all hypothetical, you know, if they if Chewy scenario plays out and the Packers go, “Hey, here’s a two-year extension, you know, so now you’re lock under contract for three years.” If you’re going to a different team, chances are that team stinks. A lot of rebuilding that has to be done. Yes. But and if you believe and if you believe here what you’re building, I think you accept the two-year extension and go, “Hey, if we do what I think we’re capable of, that contract stuff is going to take care of itself.” Yeah. And as much as people gripe about some of the ways that the front office handles things, whether that’s veteran players, whether that’s other things, like this is one of those the grass isn’t always greener type of things. I think you hear players who leave talk about the Green Bay culture and talk about the way that the football team is sort of revered That to me is is something that deserves weight when you’re making decisions. And I think Matt Laflur is smart enough to recognize that as well. Yeah. I don’t I don’t know what would you do if you were if you were Matt Laflur and they offered me a one-year deal, two-year extension. I’d say no. I want a five-year deal, which he’s not going to get. But if if he be if he became a free agent, someone would pay him that. Shouldn’t he get a 5-year extension? If they go to the playoffs and lose in the first round, I think he should. I think he’s proven himself to be that good of a head coach. Got to win, baby. Is he not winning because of his coaching or is he not winning because of the pieces, the ingredients he’s been given to build a winner? Well, how long do you give him with a rebuild? Three years. It’ll be three years at at this point. Matt Laflur has like 10 more years before I’m really that worried about the the interesting part here is like the general manager when in charge can just blame the head coach. Oh, I’m drafting the good enough players. You’re just not getting the most out of them. With him and Goody being equals finger pointing contest. Yeah. Which by the way is what we think happened with the defensive line, right? It wasn’t not my players, not the players I’ve selected. It was you guys aren’t coaching them well enough. Bye. You know, uh, this is an ad by Better Help. Workplace stress is now one of the top causes of declining mental health with 61% of the global workforce experiencing higher than normal levels of stress. A holiday or a vacation is great, but it’s not a long-term solution if you’re dealing with workplace stress. Don’t forget therapy can help you navigate whatever challenges the workday or any day might bring to your life. I have certainly benefited from therapy. 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And you wonder, why would a nurse be serving jail time? Well, that’s because she amputated an elderly man’s foot which was suffering from um what what’s the word I’m looking for here? Like frostbite. Necrobite. Yes, it was necrotic because of frostbite. Sorry, that was the word escaping me. Uh and she removed it on her own. Some of her colleagues argued that it was more humane. Uh other people were arguing that well she was told not to do that, that she didn’t need to do that. Um, and then she removed it. And the big mistake here is, and the one that’s grabbing headlines, is she joked about putting said foot in a in her family’s taxiderermy shop with a sign that read something like, “Take take Frostbite seriously. Wear your boots, kids.” So yeah, some guy basically uh I don’t know his condition at the time he had his foot removed because I believe he did pass away shortly after there, but this person decided to remove a foot on their own. Well, and see what bothers me about it, gang is a Wisconsin nurse, right? Like this is one of those stories you don’t want going viral. You don’t want getting out there because it’s like Florida, man. You know, the state of Florida, you get those wacky, goofy stories pretty regularly and all of a sudden people start assu assuming that the whole state are a bunch of bananas, a bunch of wackadoodles. Yeah, you live there, you know. But this is why I don’t want these types of stories in Wisconsin getting out. Uh, the amputation was discovered when a Pierce County, Wisconsin medical examiner flagged an autopsy to authorities of the man after he had found a foot that had been removed from the body. So, I think what had happened is she just threw the foot in like with the guy after he passed away and then the then the medical examiner was doing the autopsies like wait why is this foot not attached to this man? I didn’t know nurses could do amputations. Oh god, this is giving me the G. You know what I mean? It’s like would she use a saw? Yeah, probably. But don’t you have to have an anes? Don’t you think the anesthesia anologist would have went ah let’s pump the brakes a little bit? Well, that was also part of the discussion because of the way it happened and if the person was able to even feel that extremity, they were unsure. So, was there any pain suffered by the person whose foot was being removed because you didn’t go that like an amputation’s a big deal. Uh yeah, there’s a lot of steps, a lot of people. Oh, and you have to go through um I believe psychological um I don’t want to say testing, but they basically talk to you about from a mental standpoint what it is going to be to lose that limb. Yes. And it seems none of the usual steps were taken here. And somebody um I believe her argument was it was out of humanity, which I don’t know the state of the the limb. Um but it seemed like it was in pretty bad shape. But just taking somebody’s limb is we we can’t just be doing that. And and this person was alive. I want to be clear. This was not post-mortem. This was not after the person had died that she was like, I want to keep this foot. What’s the harm in keeping the foot after? No, the person was alive because part of the trial was that she did not receive permission from said person who lost said foot. Like this is wild, crazy stuff. How does someone get to the point where they justify taking someone else’s limb? Like I understand that it sounds like she was able to convince herself that there was some humanity occurring here of like, oh, they’re better off without the foot. Even so, like you have to ask someone to take their jacket for goodness sakes, you know? You can’t just like rip someone’s jacket off of them when they show up to your house to take a foot is just wildly inappropriate. But she’s not serving jail time. What does she get? Uh she pled no contest. Uh received a fine of $443. uh she has to pay that in court costs and then agree to any discipline imposed on her uh nursing license by the board of nursing which I got to imagine it’s getting taken away got to imagine I would think but you never know guess it depends on how flush the nursing industry is right now you know the lack of severity in the punishment totally makes me believe that there was something going on a foot you might say foot. That there was no foot. That’s the point. No foot. That there’s more to the story than it reads as woman joked about turning it into a part of her taxiderermy. Like I imagine here there is because like isn’t the credo do no harm? Like that like I don’t think they take lightly to amputations. I wouldn’t think so. Well, how soon between the amputation and the death? Like how much time are we talking here? It was days but totally unrelated. So she was quality of life. Yeah. It was a quality of life for his remaining time which it seems like was pretty short anyway. It appears to be that way. Yes. Was this a jury of her peers? Well, no. She pled no contest. Oh, so there was no trial. There was no trial. This was she Yes. She pled no contest. And a part of that um she had two other charges that were dismissed. Yeah. agreed to pay court fees and then whatever punishment comes down from the borders. I got to be honest with you guys. Isn’t this why people don’t trust medical professionals? Yeah. I mean, I can do a lot of things, but I I don’t think I could amputate. Not with that attitude. I think you could. You just would never consider it cuz you are as you are a sane human being. Yes. Weird. Very weird. I bet she doesn’t get her license removed. How much you want to bet on that? That she won’t get her license removed. That they’ll be like, “Ah, honest mistake.” They got They got to take it away. She It’ll get suspended, but they won’t remove it. She’ll be working again in no time. Is that what you’re telling me? Yeah. Yeah. I don’t think you can hire her as a hospital. Maybe she did a good job. Why was your Well, the amputation was clean. Josha, you got to put this on the Jed Gab Chewy Twitter Twitter poll, the Infinity Exteriors poll. Is the nurse who amputated a man’s foot without his permission, I don’t even know if it’s a man. I don’t know if it said if it was the patient. It was a man. Yes, it was a man. Going to have her license suspended. Will she work again? Something along those lines because Chew’s got the the the spec specificity of it might get suspended, but she’ll be working. Take away her livelihood. Sure you can. She took away the foot. Like it feels like a foot for livelihood is a good tradeoff. I mean, I could go into the cockpit, land a plane. No, you couldn’t. Yes, I could. The less the listeners already said that I could. What would you do if you found out that I landed the plane and you had no idea? Do a simulation. They have places where you can do simul. But it was pretty good. Well, again, if it’s an emergency situation, no, just walk. Yeah. But I don’t think you’re just walking into the cockpit and go Amazon has any outfit that you want to buy. Hey boys, you just going to what? What is this? Catch me if you can. Yeah, cocky and they’ll never know. Yeah. Yeah. Give me the R seven. Leonardo DiCaprio just walking in. Yeah. Frank Abnali. Is that what it was? Yeah. All right. We’ll take a break here on Jen Gab and Chewy. Wrap things up right after this. Stick around. Jen, Gabe, and Chewy continues next on 945 ESPN. Thinking about buying or building a new home? Start with a mortgage pre-approval from Great Midwest Bank and experience a state of banquility. At Great Midwest Bank, we offer fast approvals and flexible options with experienced loan officers who understand the local market because they live here, too. 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Yeah, they’ll be fine. you know, 23 years old, he’s just a kid. I hope they’re nice to them. I do. I hope they’re nice. The nicest thing you’ve ever said, Have you guys ever seen Ferdinand, the movie of the bull? You know, like, can’t say that you have familiar with the story, but all the other bulls are mean to Ferdinand. That’s what I I’m hearing these words put together in this way for the first time in my life. That’s what Chewy’s statement reminded me of. I hope they’re nice to him. I hope they’re nice to the men. Cry for me, Fernando. Isn’t that a song? Um, I mean almost. What’s the word? Uh, Argentina. Oh, I was close. It’s a country. Well, I was close. It was Spanish. You said Fernando, which is Spanish. And Ferdinand is the name of the bull in Argentina is Spanish. It’s I think of Mellin. Yes. No, he’s French. The soda. Ferdinand is his first name. Oh, that’s right. Jolve two ends. Are we done? You were good for a Monday. That was excellent. You were good for a Monday, I would say. Your story about falling in the lake. That was I I just laugh. Yeah. Lovely. Will is neon is next on ESPN Milwaukee. Have a great day, everybody. 894 southbound still kind of a headache. We got the two left lanes blocked with some debris right about at National Avenue and that’s backing things up into the zoo. Keep that in mind. That’s why you got those backups. We’ve also got some delays eastbound 94 coming in from about 84th Street all the way to 35th. Westbound heavy from 27th to Mitchell Boulevard. Southbound 41 backing up from Apple Avenue down to Capitol Drive. Northbound’s going to be slow from just before Mayfair Road all the way up past North Avenue.

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