Where Does the Blackhawks Prospect Pool RANK Among NHL Teams? | CHGO Blackhawks Podcast

Where Does the Blackhawks Prospect Pool RANK Among NHL Teams? | CHGO Blackhawks Podcast

The Blackhawk schedule is out. Stannislav Berinoi is a Blackhawk and the athletic Scott Wheeler is going to wax poetic about the Blackhawks prospects next on CHGO Blackhawks. Heat. Heat. Welcome in to the CHGO Blackhawks podcast on this steamy Chicago Wednesday. I’m Jay Zawoski. That’s Mario Terbosi. Sarah’s here running the show as I wouldn’t say as usual probably. Yeah. Hawk season is in October, right? Mhm. Yes. And we’ll get back to more of a routine. A more Sarah based schedule. Yeah. Sounds good to me. Thanks for being here. Do us a favor, hit that like button for us. Make sure you are subscribed to the YouTube page as well. And if you’re listening on the podcast, make sure you’re following or subscribed on your favorite app. We’ve got a lot to get to today, including a little bit of breaking news. This just came out a few minutes ago. This is huge. This is earthshattering. Yes. The Blackhawks have signed Russian goalender Stannislav Barnoi, the most Russian name ever. Let’s go. Uh Mario Turbazi, what can you tell us? Oh man, what can’t I tell you about Stannislav uh Berinoi? Uh I like many of you learned of his existence this morning. Yes. Um there was a report from uh Dylan Griffin of Elite Prospects that the Blackhawks had expressed interest in him. Uh so I did a quick little scout on Elite Prospects of Bereanoi and seems like he’s a guy that they’re rolling the dice on. He’s 22, big, uh I think 6’4, about 215. Not that weight really matters all that much for goalies, but maybe. Uh has spent the last few seasons in the lower leagues of the KHL, think the last parts of the last two years both in the MHL, which is like the junior ranks, uh and then the VHL, which I would say is like the equivalent to the AHL over there. Uh and he’s had pretty good numbers. So, I I think the I think the save percentage um jumps out at you. A 9 about a 928 last season in in the VHL uh split times between two teams that I’m not going to try and pronounce their names. Um but Gardens, but uh he’s he’s coming over, I would imagine. So, um signing the the the deal and coming to North America. And this is an interesting move to get to get a goalie, but it’s it’s a young goalie. It’s two years. it’s less than a million dollars. Um, it’s a roll of the dice and if it turns out to be nothing, it doesn’t matter much at all. Right. So, I think it’s it’s it’s a gamble to take on a on a young goalender that I think they think maybe has um, you know, some potential some potential to come over and and make something of himself. And and the numbers are outstanding. and say what you want about the level of competition compared to the NHL or even the AHL, but you’re trying to find a diamond in the rough. This could be one. And you’ve got a backup for Drew Kso and Rockford. Um, that’s what this seems like it is. As as much as the narrative was like, oh, maybe a veteran AHL backup, they decide, let’s see if this kid can replicate what he’s done in the, you know, lower levels of Russia, come over to North America, and see how it goes. Yeah, I’m all for it. And that’s all I know about Sandis better. That’s all I know about him as a person and as a goalie. Um, but I I think this is this is interesting because a lot of a lot of the sentiment online when this was reported by by Dylan this morning um and that we’ve seen the reaction uh to the news in the last couple of minutes is just like well you have Knight and you’re in arbitration with Solder Bloom and you think Drew Kzo is on the cusp of you know being ready for the NHL and Lauren Prisahis is under contract. Who knows what his status is? You drafted a project goalie this year. You still have Adam Gian also um you know coming up the ranks in in the NCAA. Like why go with another goalender? Um I think it’s interesting. I I think it if I’m trying to galaxy brain this I see two paths. This could either be maybe a a bank that I don’t think persuas anywhere near plane. There’s like still no update on him. Or are negotiations with Arvid Solder Bloom not as simple as meets the eye? I don’t think that’s it. I I I think it’s I think the simplest explanation is usually the right one. They needed a a backup in Rockford. They probably found Bareris Noi to be a little bit uh compelling, so they signed him. And if it doesn’t work out, it’s not hard to go find a journeyman goalender to be your backup in the American Hockey League. So, why not take a shot, see what the kid has, if he’s anything close to what his rushing numbers are, great job, Kyle Davidson. But all you’re looking for at this point is a backup to uh Drew Kso and Rockford. If he turns out to be more, great. And I think that’s that’s probably all it is. I want to I’m going to tinfoil half this one a little I’m gonna let it marinate. I’m see what kind of conspiracy theory I can I can I like it. Yeah. I mean, just fire it up, man. It’s middle of July. What else we got to do? That’s right. Well, we are going to talk to Scott Wheeler in a little bit here. Uh the top of the hour, the bottom of the hour, rather. Bottom of the hour. So, that’ll be fun. Um but we want to get into the schedule release which came out today as well. Uh lots of interesting notes there. You’ve got 11 of the first 17 on the road. Yeah, including the first first two games uh start on the road. They’re they’re at Florida and then I believe they go to Boston right after that. So yeah, um a little east coast start there, but then they come home for the home opener on the 11th against Montreal and then they have uh Utah. So first couple games are got some good good matchups there. Um first 11 on the or 11 of the first 17 on the road. We were kind of talking about that um was it yesterday? kind of talking about the opening night and all that being on the road and, you know, maybe guys liking starting the the the season more on the road because it’ll it kind of forces you to kind of get to know each other and, you know, get back into the the swing of things once the season gets going. Most of them know each other because they didn’t really add too many new guys anyways, right? Um, but I think, you know, starting on the with a lot of road time gives you some time to kind of just be with your teammates more. You know, you’re not at home. when you’re not in your normal routines. So, uh that could be a blessing to kind of have some cohesion there. It is offset though by the month of January where 11 games in January are at home. And uh a note from the Blackhawks here with the schedule release, this is the most uh home games in a month that they’ve had since I think it was March of 2009. Had 11 home games. So get get cozy in the month of January uh at the United Center. Yeah. I don’t know. You know, uh Wendy City Hockey says the NHL just doesn’t like the Blackhawks at home. It feels everyone’s got 41 home, 41 road. Um I think it’s I think they spit this thing into a computer generator and it spits out a schedule as best it can. I don’t think there’s people sitting around, you know, Chinese food cartons on the table. Wasn’t there a Wasn’t there a story that like the NHL was the last league? Didn’t they use like an old man and lady to do it? Yeah, it was like the last one of the last leagues that actually by hand figured out their schedule. Are they still doing that? I wouldn’t surprise me. They really should not still do that. It wouldn’t surprise me. Yeah, I’ll look that up. I remember that story of like the husband and wife NHL schedule makers would with pencil and glitter would put together the NHL schedule, which is probably not the greatest thing in the world, but uh yeah, I I think there is a look for a team that’s not really trying to uh win anything this year to start on the road. Sure, you’re probably gonna come back home when you your you know your home thick schedule starts with a losing record, but it’s gonna be a losing record anyway. And I do think some time together hanging out, especially, you know, you got a whole new coaching staff, so they’ll get to know guys on the road a little bit. You also, I think, get to spend a little more time when you’re on the road as a team working on, you know, looking at video, those sort of things where you’re you’re in the hotel. Yeah. you go out to dinner, maybe you go see the sites a little bit, but you can focus a little bit more on getting systems ready. Then when you’re at home, you got the family distractions and everything else going on. So, I think there is a silver lining to it. Would you prefer to have a bunch of home games to start the year so you’re comfortable, maybe build a good cushion? Yes. But I’d rather have that two or three years from now when the Hawks will really be trying to contend for a spot uh than this year when we know they’re going to be a lottery team again. Sure. Sure. All right. So, we’ve got the key dates. We mentioned the home opener on the 11th. Uh Patrick Kane comes back to Chicago December 13th. That’s a Saturday. Jonathan Taves, circle this one. Monday, January 19th. Taves makes his return to Chicago. And then April 15th is a season finale versus San Jose. Will that be a game where both teams try to lose to give themselves the best chance at Gav McKenna? We’ll see. A couple other especially early in the season that I had pinpointed that interest me. I want to see how the Hawks stack up against these teams we feel are a bit ahead of them. Right. So, you’ve got October 13th against the Mammoth. You’ve got October 19th against the Ducks. I want to see how the Hawks play against those teams. Yeah, I think those are those are good kind of like measuring stick games where you kind of see I know they’re early in the season, but hey, I mean this this is going to be a young team even coming out of training camp. They’re going to be a young team um that’s really only going to get younger as the season goes on. But it’s you want to see what what you got and and early on you’re going to be matched up against teams like you said like that you you look at and you say could they be what this team was last season where you know the Ducks were young and and you know the the the Mammoth have been you know as the Coyotes kind of building something there and they had you know significant games into into March last season. So I don’t think that that’ll exactly be the case. I’m hopeful it would be for the Hawks, but you definitely want to see like where does where does it stack up? Where do the young guys uh where do they have and against other teams that are going to be young and and have those similar vibes? I got um November 28th against the Penguins tag two. Anytime you get a chance to see Sydney Crosby, you should do it. Um also maybe the last chance to see him as a Penguin, which is kind of crazy to think about, but there’s been a lot of smoke around Sydney Crosby leaving Pittsburgh. If not, I don’t think it’ll be this summer, but at some point, maybe the trade deadline, he gets moved. Um, so get your chances to see Sydney Crosby uh in a in a Penguins jersey at the United Center for maybe the last time. And that’s a guy who for as long as he’s been in the league has always kind of been injured when they play the Hawks. What day? Uh that is the 28th of November. I have Nashville on that. Oh, well, whatever day it is. But yes, that that game where Pittsburgh comes to town December 28th. Oh yeah, maybe I was putting my thing wrong. November December 28th. Uh yeah, that would be that would be a good one. Uh yeah, this Sunday game. Um good Christmas gift by the way. Yeah, for sure. For sure. Go see Crosby if he’s still on the Penguins at that time. Um I yeah anytime you know when when Edmonton comes to town you want to see McDavid January 12th uh that’s going to be happening. Um yeah I mean it’s it’s it’s what this team kind of still is is there is extra motivation to see when other teams come to town. Now hopefully that is going to be not the case for very long that the Hawks just become Yeah. just come out and see your own guys. Yeah. Um, and I think with this with the way that this season is going to shape up and the roster is going to shape up, there is going to be a lot of excitement to see those young guys uh and and to have them play. One game that I’m happy about actually is New Year’s Day night. You get to ring in the new 2026, close the book on 2025. Yeah, played in the Winter Classic last year, New Year’s Eve. It was terrible. You kind of wipe that away and you start fresh. Um, it’s a tough game, but like playing at home first day of the new year, like you kind of may and I’m sure I’ll feel completely different on that day about about this feeling, but it’s a feeling of like new beginnings, like hey, it’s a new year. Let’s let’s let’s make this year great kind of thing. And um but I I I think that’ll be that’ll be a fun one. Um and I do like that they are closing the season with four home games. Like I feel like you know the last couple of years their regular season finale has always been on the road. Yeah. Um and then that last home game is followed by like two or three road games. So it’s fun that it’ll have like a like a real nice close to the season of four home games. And outside of the Carolina game like you you play St. Louis, Buffalo, and San Jose to end the season. Um, for a team that’s going to be young, you might have Sasha Bu on that team. You might have Antonell Anton Frondell on that team. You might have guys like Nick Lardes on that. Like that. Those will be fun games to close the year. Yes, looking forward to that. Um, we’re going to hit the break zone. When we come back, we’re going to share the Blackhawk schedule release video starring our friend Alex Vic and highlight some other games coming up in the 2025 26 Centennial season. Uh, hit the like button for us. We’ll be back in two minutes on CHGO Blackhawks. Whatever the moment, it’s never ordinary at bet 365. New customers can get $150 in bonus bets when you bet $5. Win or lose. Sign up using the code cho365. Deposit 10 bucks, place a bet for $5, and get $150 in bonus bets whether or not your bet wins or loses. 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We’re taking the temp of the chat about the schedule this year and our buddy Sprout said he is excited about the toilet bowl series of San Jose, Seattle, and Nashville. Come see the teams you feel like maybe the Hawks could beat up on. But it feels like it’s almost never the case. Yeah. When they play lesser teams that they just excel in clobber. Yeah. They get up for the good good opponents and then they they have let downs against the ones that you would say are more equal equal value. Well, I mean, you know, throw Pittsburgh in there, too. Like, they’re they’re they’re going to be tanking. So, I saw somebody tweet, “Unfortunately, the Penguin schedule is full of NHL teams.” Yeah. No, that’s good. Yeah. I don’t think they’re going to be as bad as people think, but Oh, I think they will. If they start trading Crosby and those guys away, then it’s going to be horrible. Just so they can get perfectly right there. Gavin McKenna joins the Penguins just as we all predicted. Oh, yeah. We know it’s happening. Yeah. I mean, I I I think it’s it’s always fun to to see the schedule release. You get the little tidbits there. Um, they have, you know, Hawks have 20 home games uh on either Friday, Saturday, or Sunday dates this season. That’s always a lot of fun. um you know you you just sorry to interrupt you but if it is truly done by grandma and grandpa schedule um that like they’re probably hey we’d like a lot of weekend games at home if possible then well then you’re going to have to start the season you know if if teams are kind of vying for certain things on the schedule if you’re going to get a consideration here you’re going to have to sacrifice something elsewhere and I think they’re fine doing that so three weekend home games in October three in November, two in December, uh, three in January, and just one in March, and one in April. One home game the month of February. What? Well, what’s wrong with the NHL? They’re screwing the Hawks, Mike. You have the Olympic break. Oh, right. So, there’s there’s like a month off. There’s a there’s like an 18-day like break between games uh on the on February 4th and then February 26th, that’s when the Blackhawks will play on the road against Columbus before the Olympic break. And then they’re on the road uh against Nashville on the 26th. So, the one lone time we will be at the United Center uh in the month of February is February 2nd against the San Jose Sharks. So, here’s one of those um toilet bowl matchups for you. Uh season ticket members, make sure you select uh the toilet bowl package to get all of the teams. You get free Dano with every purchase all the teams uh that will be at the bottom of the league along with the black. It’s always fun too to see the original six. So, you’ve got Montreal for the home opener on October 11th. That’s fun. Saturday, November 15th is Toronto. Wednesday, December 10th is the Rangers. Saturday, December 13th, as we mentioned earlier, is Detroit. Detroit it and uh Saturday January 17th is the Brew is the Bruins. So one, two, three, four of the five matchups against the original six are on Saturdays. Yep. Yeah, that’s huge. Those are always fun. And those are going to be rocking. And especially because it’s the Centennial season, you know, those matchups, uh they’re going to they’re going to do up with, you know, some fun fun stuff. Yeah. Uh surrounding those those games and everything. So, I’m I’m I’m excited. I The schedule release always kind of amps up a little bit of that summer draw of just like, “Oh, can we please please just get to the season?” And now you see it ahead of time. I’m going to put this in my my calendar on my phone so I can let my Yeah, they have calendar. Yeah. Do they have that? They I do it every year. They got to have it somewhere. There’s like a company that I think will just do it automatically out the check. Ah, nice. Um, speaking of schedule reveal, the Hawks put theirs out today. It was uh featuring our friend Alex Classic. This is courtesy of the Chicago Blackhawks. Check it out. All right, team. The Blackhawks have entrusted us with the most important project of the season, releasing the schedule. We’ll need KPIs, SEO, AI, Aura, definitely a drone shot. Uh, hey, this is my first meeting, so this might be a dumb question, but why do we need a video to release a schedule? I’m just saying we play every tea. Hear me out. What if we just post a schedule? You mean like a graphic, but just like dates and logos? Yeah, maybe even with a caption that says like, “Here’s the schedule.” Write that down. That’s raw. That’s real. The truth. Strip away all the noise and that’s it. Who knew marketing was so easy? Well, the work here is done. Sorry, I thought this was going to be a Zoom meeting. Now, if you’re listening on the podcast, nicely done. You missed Alex Flask and his boxer briefs uh standing up from the table. It’s a shame. Uh yeah. Well, next time he’s here, we’ll make him wear his underwear the entire time. Sure. That’ll go over well. That’ll fit the viewers in. Yeah. Well, just to make him comfortable. We’ll all be in our underwear. Yeah. Right. Right. No. Yeah. We’ll have Mando. It’s fine. Yeah. It’s fine. Um Yeah. Well done. I I I I like it. Uh simple. I liked their graphic where they were just like, “We play everybody. That’s the sketch.” Um some some good comedy in there. I guess uh Seattle a similar version and the Kings do a similar version as well. Uh Kings did theirs with the uh the Empty Netters podcast guys. Um just well done. I I like the creativity we see sometimes from teams with with these. And I also like the satire of the need for creativity. Yes. On some of these things as well. I know with the with the NFL they do it, you know, they do some crazy ones that we’ve seen before and it’s just like all people want to know is like what the calendar is, you know. It is a fun minute too every spring, every summer when it comes around. Yeah. Um Yeah. I I I you know, it is a perfect middle of the summer like something to talk about sort of thing. You know, they’re playing everybody. Do you want to win loss all 82? Oh, they’re going 82 and0. I do it every year with the Bears. Uh, I say O and 82. Okay. 82 overtime losses. And the Penguins will still get McKenna. That’s how it will work. If you lost every game of the season in overtime, you would finish the season with 82 points and they’d be like, “Ah, good season.” A good season. That’s a great season for the Hawks. 82 points in the standings. I would take 82 points. Hell yeah. Absolutely. 82 overtime and shootout losses. The only other one uh that I saw that really stood out to me, and I’m I haven’t seen them all to be honest, but uh I thought the Sabres did a good job with like market themed uh Buffalo wings. And my favorite part of it, they put the Blackhawks one was a little chef’s smok, chef’s apron for the bear on the chicken wing for Chicago. But then for the Blues, because St. Louis has nothing meaningful. Sorry, Windy City Hockey. They’re just like, I don’t know, just make the W just make the wing a Blues fan. I know, but the city itself Oh, sure. Sure. It’s kind of boring. As Chris Bryant says, it’s the only mean thing he’s ever said. They just made the wing blue. It’s got half of a McDonald’s sign. It does have half of a McDonald’s sign. You’re right. The arch I the gateway to the west, which you could literally put anywhere west of the Atlantic Ocean. If you walk through it going west, you have gone through the gateway. That’s true. Uh, but I did like the I saw that the the the blue chicken wing and I saw the Blues responded on on on Twitter and they were like, “Blue cheese was was right there.” Like the pun of blue cheese and buffalo wing. Like, yeah, you get a blue wing and that’s it. That’s all you’re worth. St. Louis. That’s what their logo is. Yeah. Blue wing. No, it’s cool. I like to see Blastic getting involved in that sort of stuff. And he is him, Bard and Nazar are the most marketable players that they and Stannislav Yep. Didn’t see him in the meeting. He must have he must have actually if he was there we would have no idea. It could have been the guy could have been the guy running the meeting was was Stannislov actually. Yeah. Yeah. I wonder and I I had to think back. I didn’t know if it was like clearly uh listed or not, but when so I saw that earlier when Vastic was like, “Who knew marketing was so easy?” Uh I like went back to that email that he sent that said, “Hey, sorry, I can’t finish this group project. I’m going to the NHL.” And I wanted to see if it was like a marketing class. It was labeled CM419 or something like like the course name. So, I’m I don’t know what it was for sure. And if anyone went to Boston University and took CM419 uh five years ago, let me know what that course was. Um but I’d like to think it was like some sort of marketing marketing. Uh and he was just like, “Ah, marketing is easy. I can leave this in the middle of in the middle of college and just go to the NHL.” Yeah. Well, you know what? All right. The schedule’s here. We’re not going to breathlessly predict every game. Um, but it’s it’s like it’s just a sign that it’s getting closer, you know? It’s just it’s it’s finally gonna be here. I’m just really this this off season is just dragging on like none other. I remember and it’s been two weeks since since basically we’ve put the the the nail in uh the end of free agency. It’s been two weeks. Yeah, I know. And it’s maybe because free agency was so underwhelming. Yeah, that might be part of it because that always feels like oh man you gota you know who went where and you try to break down like who really got better like I mean there were some there were some big moves made obviously like Vegas gets Marner and uh Eers goes to Carolina but it just was kind of all right very antilimactic. Speaking of who got better and who got worse, um Dom Lucian of The Athletic did a breakdown of all 32 teams and players they brought in, players they lost, and how they improved or did not improve this off season. At the top of the list, adding a net rating of plus 26. Now, I don’t have the brain or the time to go into all the analytics and the mathematics that Dom put into this. Um, but net ratings of each player that they added and lost and everything like that, the number one team that improved the most, the San Jose Sharks added a net rating of plus 26. Who’ they add? Is the list on there? The ad the additions are Jeff Skinner, Adamet, Philip Kersev, Demetri Orlov, John Clingberg, Nick Ley, and Alex Nadulkovich. The subtractions are Nikolai Kovalenko, Mark Edward Vlic, Henry Thr Thru, and Alexander Gorggv. Honestly, I’d like to see last year’s list and where he had the Hawks. They did add a bunch of stuff. They did. And so they added stuff, but is the stuff actually going to make them or is a really good player? Yeah. Yeah, Klingberg used to be right and Orlov and Clingberg are going to be like their top line uh defense defensive group if Sam Dickinson isn’t playing. I don’t know. Canadians were second. They added a plus 23 net rating with the additions of Zack Buluke and Noah Dobson. Um Anaheim Ducks were a net 15. Uh net plus 15. They were the third. The team here we’re all we’re all waiting on is the Blackhawks. And as many would say, they did nothing to improve. Nigh nigh. 13th. 13th on the list. Just net rating of a plus three with the additions of Andre Burkovsky and Sam Laughaferty and the subtractions of TJ Brody, Alec Martinez, Pat Maroon, and Philip Kurishv. Guess who was number one on that list last year with a plus 51? It was the Blackhawks. It was your Chicago Blackhawks adding Tyler Bratusi, Tavo Tervine, Ilia McKv, Pat Maroon, Alec Martinez, TJ Brody, Laurent Bruis, losing Radish Johnson and Whistle and Zitzv. They added a bunch of stuff last year. A bunch of stuff was added. That is correct. So, all right, we’re going to hit the break zone. Scott Wheeler is standing by. I know that’s what everyone’s waiting for. So, quick two-minute break. Hit the like button and we’ll be back in a moment on CHGO Blackhawks. Looking to buy, sell, trade, or rip open packs of cards? Well, you should check out our friends at Arena Club. They’re changing the hobby with their transparent slab packs and no fee auctions. You got to check out these slab packs. 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And guess who’s at the very top with seven in the top 100 most? The Blackhawks. Scott, how you doing, man? Thanks for being with us. I’m uh I’m doing well. Just uh final two days here before a week of vacation and then when that week of vacation ends, I’ll be flying to Minnesota for the World Junior Summer Showcase. So, uh just sort of a a brief flurry here of getting interviews done and getting a few pieces done that are going to roll out over the next couple of weeks. And then I’ll be uh we’ll be right back into hockey season with the summer showcase and then the Helinka. I’ll enjoy the the pending vacation. You definitely deserve it. Yeah, you’ve earned it. Definitely. And you’re you’re going to earn it right now. Uh tell us all you know about Stannislava Breoi, the newest Blackhawks goalender. There’s not there’s not a lot to add there other than sort of Russian goalie who stops pucks, which is a bit of a theme in hockey these days. Um, no. I I really, frankly, I I don’t have much time uh spent on them. I don’t spend much time on free agent goalies. Yeah. Uh don’t don’t have one of the few players you could ask me about right now that I really don’t frankly have uh have a ton of info on. And I’m not the type to uh beat around the bush and and play pretend either. So, no, we we we only learned of him 20 minutes ago. So, don’t worry. and had to break it down with uh all the info we had which took about 35 seconds. Anyway, so your list published yesterday uh seven Blackhawks in the top 100. Ardam Lefch, Anton Fondell, Sam Renzel, Kevin Cchinsky, Oliver Moore, Nicolardis, Sasha Bav. I want to start with with Ardam Lev. We got a glimpse of what he had last year and I think something that stood out to me was throughout the year we’ve been hearing reports from Rockford that maybe it was a bit of an adventure with Lev. things were not perfectly totally smooth. Um, and I would say it was the same in the NHL, but boy did he come up and just looked the part right away. And I know there’s some players, and I think Tabo Tervino was one of these back in the day that just does better at the NHL level because of their skill set. What did you see from Levino at the end of the year? And where do you see him starting uh next season? Well, Arty’s career path has been an adventure and his game has always been an adventure. So, I think that’s the appropriate place to start. I think you’re always going to have to approach watching and evaluating Arty from that lens, from the the foundation of it’s a bit of a chicken with his head cut off out there. And that will improve over time with reps, with coaching. But you don’t ever want to take too much of that away from him because it’s also what defines him. It’s also what made him the player that he was in the US in Green Bay, the player that he was as a freshman at Michigan State with the Spartans where he led that team in scoring as a defenseman and as a rookie freshman. Um, and it’s it’s it’s really who he is. He’s he’s a bit of an aloof kid. Obviously, there was the reporting last year about uh during his rookie season about missing a team meeting and the healthy scratch at the AHL level, and that’s that’s just sort of who he is. I I did a feature on Arty when he was at MSU and one of the things that they always talked about at MSU was sort of Arty time and just that he’s sort of in his own in his own world in his own bubble a little bit. That’s just sort of his personality. He’s a very lovable, likable kid. It’s not that he’s lazy or he doesn’t care. He’s just a a bit of an aloof kid and a bit of an aloof hockey player. U but the tools have always been there. And the tools aren’t just there, but they’re there with emphasis. So, I’m sure you guys, if you’ve run into him around the rink at this point, you’ve you’ve seen the the sort of sheer size of him, the physical makeup of him, uh very sort of muscular kid. Doesn’t really look like a kid uh at a very early age, and that’s been true for for years now. Um but then the player just makes plays, wants to make things happen, loves to jump up and activate. And I do worry because he is a little aloof because there are some mistakes because he can cough pucks up or get caught out of position or there were a couple of moments at the NHL level last year where he just got a little too loose in his posture and then a puck on a twoon-one gets placed behind him and he’s just not sort of quite ready to to defend a twoon-one or that kind of a thing. That’s still going to keep happening. I hope that they don’t overcoach him and almost coach out the the looseness of his game to the point where he’s rigid and he doesn’t feel he can go out there and play freely and make plays and rotate below the goal line with the puck and that those elements to his game that have always made him so impactful. So, I’m fascinated to see what happens with his development. I think there’s a range of outcomes still for Arty over the next several years in terms of just how high a level I think he’s capable of reaching and maybe also some bumps along the way at the NHL level, but I’m still a big believer. I mean, I had him seventh in my list uh this week. I’m still a big believer in him as one of the premium D prospects in the game. He had despite some ups and downs last year, he had a very positive, I would still argue, year in the AHL in terms of playing 25 minutes a night as a teenager at that level. That in and of itself is a big deal and not to be taken for granted. And uh we’ve seen players like David Uraichek and Simon Ne, other other highly drafted D spend some time in the AHL over the last several years. Owen Power, first overall pick, went back to college. So, I think with defensemen in and of themselves, you have to recalibrate a little bit. But I I I’m not worried about Arty. The talent level, the ambition, the willingness to try to make things happen. That’s all there. And I think over time, the execution and the habits, those those are going to come and he’s going to be a stud for a long time in the NHL. Well, staying with the the young defenseman uh in the system, Sam Renzel is a guy that that jumped into the NHL last year and made a big impact. Played 20 plus minutes a night in nine games with with the Hawks at the end of the season. And there’s been some chatter about, you know, his place in the lineup, making the the team out of camp and maybe not needing any time in the AHL. Where do you where do you see him now as he’s you know transitioning out of college into the pro game and you know what might be the best path for him? Well, it’s interesting with all of the excitement about Sam and what he showed and it’s all earned after what he showed last year, not just in his stint in the NHL, but at the University of Minnesota, really over the last year and a half coming out of the the World Juniors two years ago and into that second half of his freshman year and then building on that in his sophomore season last year. All earned. But it’s interesting to hear people now talk about Renzel. Maybe he’s the best prospect in the organization. Maybe he’s ahead of Fondell, maybe he’s ahead of Arty. And to to to be at that point with him versus where we were at with him two, three years ago where he was described as raw and he was described as unproven and he hadn’t taken the typical path and he was this rangy 6’4 kid who was underdeveloped and uh it just happened so quickly for Sam. I also think there are some parallels despite how how developed Arty is physically. I think there are some parallels in terms of just the learning of the game that needed to happen for both of those players. Very different in terms of their comportment and the way they carry themselves as kids. They’re very different people, but there were some similarities just in terms of raw ability and the need the need for for coaching and time. And I do love Sam. I think he’s an unbelievable talent. the way that his game has refined and the pieces of the puzzle have really come together has been exceptional over the last year and a half. But in terms of the conversation of maybe he’s our best prospect, I’m not quite there with Renzel, if only because he is a year and a half older than Arty and a lot has happened in that year and a half for him and I would expect that a lot will happen in the next year and a half for Arty, for example. So, still a huge success story. No question about it. There were teams that were prepared to take Sam in the late first round where the Blackhawks took him when they drafted him 25th overall. There were more teams that viewed him as a second round pick because of the lack of a track record, because of how raw he was. And they took that swing. And oddly enough, one of the pieces I’m trying to finish before my vacation here that will come out next week while I’m off is my 2022 reddraft. I I reddraft every draft three years after. And Sam is going to go, I’m not I’ll as a bit of a teaser, Sam is going to move from 25th, obviously at the time, into the top 10 already in a reddraft just based off of everything that he’s accomplished over the last year and a half and and what we saw at the NHL level. There are a couple of players sort of 11, 12, 13 that others would rank ahead of Sam, but he’s unquestionably a top 15 prospect in that draft class now. Uh, and I’m I’m fascinated to see what his game looks like in the NHL this season because it was so glossy and shiny and looked so good in the NHL in the spring. I think you’re going to see a lot of that. I think he’s ready for the NHL. I think he should be one of their power play quarterbacks. All of those things I still do believe are true, but I do expect that there will be some learning and some kind of a bit of a regression, not just for Sam, but for Blackhawks fans who are as excited as they are about him and as legit as he is, and he’s going to be a top four defenseman for them for a long time. There I I do I I do I would temper expectations for next year because they’re still going to be a poor team. They’re still going to struggle on some nights defensively and he’s going to have some learning that he has to do at the NHL level even if it maybe didn’t look like that right out of the gate in the spring. Do you think um Branzel and Lefchov or one or the other is NHL ready and should just start in Chicago? I think there’s a case to be made that both should be there. I would probably lean towards giving Sam that opportunity just given the age. I don’t think you have to rush Arty. Even if it feels like you do because he’s a second overall pick, I don’t think you have to. It’s taken Simon Nech three years and Simon’s I still believe going to be a very very very good NHL defenseman for the Devils or for another organization because they’ve got they do have a bit of a crowd there. Um but I don’t think Arty has to necessarily start night one game one and and play 82 games next year. I still think you have to keep the process in mind with Arty. That’s still true with Sam as well. The process is important there and he’s if he needs to spend some time at the AHL level to sort of really control play and and dominate a little bit and and rebuild some confidence if he has a tough stretch, I think that’s the path that you take with Sam. But I would fully expect that Sam starts starts the year in the NHL. And I’m not as convinced that Arty’s a lock to at least start there. I could agree with that. Yeah. Um, we are close to the break zone. So, I just want to give you a quick one here. We’ve had some conversation the last couple days about Oliver Moore and I know when you did your write up that one of your concerns about Moore was the ability to finish at the NHL level and put up points. So, we’ve seen comparisons over the last couple days to Victor Stalberg and Andreas Athenu. Um, is there a guy that you can kind of look around the NHL and say, I see a lot of Oliver Moore in this guy? It’s hard because he’s such an elite skater. Uh, and it’s weird to say that about a prospect versus established NHL players, but I truly believe that you could probably count on two hands the number of players in the NHL who can skate like Oliver, if if that, maybe one hand. Um, so it’s hard to find a a a natural sort of obvious comp for him that way. I mean, you mentioned some some of the faster players that have come through Chicago over the years. I think those guys are all appropriate. I I think about Kaspar Kain and the career that Kaspberry Kain has had. Carl Heglin comes to mind as another guy who was just sort of all speed but also worked and was responsible defensively and just maybe never had the finishing uh touch around the net and sort of on on the chances that he got that you’d like for a player who created as many looks as he did. I think Oliver handles the puck really well. He’s got great hands. You’ll see him put pucks between his legs and pull pucks across defenseman and he he he flashes it. Uh, I’ve seen him blow pucks by goalies and rip pucks from the top of the circles and beat goalies cleanly with a big heavy wister, but it just hasn’t been consistent enough. He just hasn’t scored. And it’s less to do with points and more to do with actual goals. Uh, he just doesn’t bear down and finish as many chances as as you’d hope for. Uh, and then on top of that, he’s not a super cerebral playmaker. So immediately you start to wonder whether a coach is going to pigeon hole him a little bit as a third line go-getter who just plays fast and creates breakaways for himself fairly frequently and uh works and battles and can penalty kill and gets up and under sticks. The the habits and the work ethic has never even been a question for Oliver. He gets very high grades in that area. The skating is obviously world class. Uh but it’s just about okay is this going to be a 15 point 30 or 15 goal 35 point guy or can he get into that 40 to 50 point range in that 20 to 25 goal range. I think that’s the range of outcomes that you’re talking about for Oliver. He’s going to have a long career as a third line player in the league. I truly believe that. Can he become more of an up and down? I don’t think he’s a top six guy ever, but could he be an up and down the lineup guy. Could he be the third the third wheel on a second line, for example? That’s that’s what he’s got to be reaching for and striving for. I’m not sure he ever quite gets there in terms of the offense, but if I mean the the value of a legit third liner with world class skating is is still a very valuable player. The kind of player that makes four or five million bucks in the NHL potentially. So, um that that’s I think that’s a very realistic outcome for Oliver. All right, more with Scott Wheeler coming up in two minutes on CHGO Blackhawks. Ray Chevrolet in Fox Lake is firing off fireworks with big savings all month long. Back it up, Terry. Come on in as shop the Freedom to Save sales event and drive home with $10,000 off MSRP on new Chevy models. or you can check out their selection of over 125 vehicles priced under $20,000. As one of the top selling Chevy dealers in the Midwest, they’re able to keep their prices competitive, so you know you’ll get a great deal. 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Well, in Anton they’re getting a super well-rounded bigbodied sort of heavy set kid. Um the the the scoring is legit. The ability to pound the one-time and rip the wister off the wall is legit. He’ll give them a nice spoil on the power play of the future if they line him up on the opposite flank from Connor Baddard. Uh which with their handedness could actually work pretty nicely. Um he’s he’s got the ability to play in tight and around the net and on the cycle and make plays. He defends well. He defends hard. He’s a competitive kid. He’s a beloved teammate. He’s a gravitational kid as as sort of forgetting the hockey piece of it. Just an awesome awesome kid. Crushed his combine interviews. It was a joy to speak to as a media member of the media over the course of the last two years. Uh that side of it I I think will will bode well for the locker room and he could wear a letter in the NHL someday. And uh the big question with Anton in terms of drafting a player like Anton at at third overall is how much offense is there there? Is this the 50 to 60 point dominant two-way center? Um that sort of I mean people have talked about the the Barov and and the Copitar comps. I I’ve never been able to quite wrap my head around that. those are Hall of Fame level players and I don’t think Anton has shown at this stage in his career that he’s got that kind of an upside. But I also don’t love the other comp which has been Anton Landell and I do see the stylistic side by side with Anton Wendell but I think there’s more offense and Fundell has shown more offense at this age uh than Lendell did. He’s not a natural playmaker. There have been stretches over the course of the last two seasons with the Swedish national team at several international events uh in hockey spinskin. There have been stretches where you’ve wanted to see him with the puck on his stick just look a little bit more dangerous individually uh break guys down beat guys one-on-one that side of it for a for a top three pick. Um but that’s not never been his game. He’s got skill. He can handle the puck. He’ll take pucks to the net. He can score as I mentioned with that shot of his. Uh but I don’t think he’s ever going to be a dynamic dynamic sort of individual creator. Uh or or that sort of 90 point 80 90 point guy in the NHL. Now, can he be more than the 50 to 60 point guy? I I think that’s within the realm of possibility if he develops well, if he hits some checkpoints, if his feet and his boots get a little quicker. There are times where he can look a little heavy out of the blocks. Um and and the playmaking does need to to become more natural, but the highs for Anton have been very very high. There have also been stretches in hockey alenskin where he has dominated at the five nations two years ago as an underager at the five nations dominated. So there it’s there’s been a little bit of inconsistency in terms of es and flows in his career arc to this point, but as a player, he’s going to be a very very good player. Uh I’ll be interested to see whether he ends up at as a center or as a winger. Obviously listed as a natural center. Has played center with the national team but played exclusively on the wing in hockey Alfenskin last year with Jurgen. I know he wants to play more at center for them but with them making the jump from hockey alenskin to the SHL this season I wonder again whether he may end up back on the wing. Obviously we’ll play center for the Swedish national team at the World Juniors and all of that. Um, but the big question with with Anton is just what kind of offense are we talking about? Are we talking about legit second line offense or are we talking about potential firstline offense? And I can he be a firstline winger for Conor Bard? Is he your 2C? That’s what they’ll have to sort out with him over the next several years. As far as the the last part of your question, which was timeline, I think if he has a solid season in the SHL this year, which I expect that he will, uh, even if he doesn’t blow the doors off the the SHL, if he’s just a prod productive regular contributor, a standout at the World Juniors, I I don’t think it’s out of the question that we see him start the year in the NHL a year from now. All right, we we got five minutes to go, so I want to give you some time. There’s two guys that I know we’re very curious about. Nicolardis scored 70 goals last year for Brford and Kevin Korchinsky who was on your list last year and has fallen significantly. Um let’s start with Korchinsky. Uh are you still a believer? Are you losing faith in his development? Where you at on Korchinsky? I think it’s just a bit of a numbers game with Kchinsky and the Blackhawks now. I almost wonder whether he’s a kid who despite the fact that you’d be selling low on whether he may end up in that sort of quote unquote change of scenery conversation at some point here. Um it just feels like Renzel and Arty are so far ahead of him in terms of the way that they’re going to be prioritized. And then on top of that, you’ve got Nolan Allen and you’ve got Ethan Delastro and you’ve got other guys coming who look like they’re going to be players for you. Kchinsk’s also a kid who is offensively inclined and at his very best should be running a power play. And with Renzel and Arty, I’m not sure that there’s a power play uh natural power play path for him. So, you just start to wonder about fit with Kchinsky. And then on top of that, I think he’s a kid who was really hurt by having to spend his 18-year-old season, 18/19year-old season in the NHL. And is a kid who could have really benefited from the new AHL rule that’s about to be rolled out in 2026 27. Uh, and just it it just it was the not that it was the wrong path because I’m not sure that Seattle and a return to Seattle and likely a trade out of Seattle because Seattle entered a rebuild after back-to-back runs at a WHL title. Um, I’m not sure whether that would have been necessarily hugely positive for him either, but it just feels like there’s a bit of an identity crisis when you watch him play now. I I think he’s on eggshells out there at times in terms of just not playing as confidently as he as you need him to be for him to be at his best. Uh he’s never been a super strong or physical or hard defender either. He’s got the length. He’s 6’2, 62 and a half now, but has never really defended particularly hard. So, he’s not he’s not a natural penalty killer for you. and you just start to wonder, okay, can he be an offensivelyincclined five-on-ive guy for you for long term? Absolutely. I I think Kevin Kinsky is going to have a nice career in the NHL as a contributing five-on-5 guy, but in order to get the most out of him, is he a power play guy for you, and I’m not sure he is for the Blackhawks given the way that some of their other D have developed? Uh, and so it just becomes a a tricky path for him to realize his full potential. So, I I’m still very interested in him. He’s always had a really unique skill set. He like Renzel and Arty has an ability when he’s really feeling confident in playing like himself and playing the way that he did when he was with Seattle in the WHL has an ability to roam and attack and play a free flowing game and activate as a fourth forward and make things happen and shake and shimmy past guys. And he’s got a bit of an unconventional look to his stride, but it’s smoothened out over the years. And there’s still a lot to like about Korchinsky as a player and as a prospect. I would not write him off at all. Uh but I do think he’s just caught up in a in a bit of a numbers game now. All right. And quickly on Nick Lardis before we go to spring. I know you got something coming up in a moment here. Yeah, I’ve got lots of time for Lardis. Uh was very very high on him in his draft year. He was traded, some will remember, in his draft year, from Hamilton, now the Brford Bulldogs, but Hamilton at the time to Peterborough and really took off after the trade. Um, it hasn’t looked back since then. One of the most productive players at the junior level, one of the best one-times in the OHL on the power play, just a lethal, lethal one-timer, excellent skater, has grown from 5’10 to closer to six feet now. Um, the question with Lardis, and it’s one that I share with with Roman Canerov, who was one of the very last cuts, they could have had eight players on this list. If it had have extended to 150 players, for example, they would have had as many as 11. And and no other team would have been into double digits. If if the list had run to 150 instead of 100 because you would have added in Vaklav Nestrasil, you would have added in Mason West, you would have added in Merrick Vaner, and you would have added in Canerov. And Cancer would have been like top 105. He was one of the very last cuts for me. But the the challenge that they’re going to face with with Canrov and Nazar and Moore and Lardis is that you can only and and Baddard for that matter is that you can only have so many speedy and Bard doesn’t have the speed that those other guys do. But the other four, you can only have so many players of the same type that sort of 510, 5’11, 6 foot speed first guy. And as a result, I think you probably only end up long term, not to say that Lardis and and Canerov won’t both be NHLers, because I think they will be, but you probably only end up with one of Canarov and Lardis as NHLers within the Blackhawks organization. And if they’re both NHLers, it probably means that you’ve traded Oliver Moore or that you have a bit of a different makeup with a player like Sasha B in the mix who’s got more size and brings a bit of a different element. Um, but there there is a lot of the same type and I’m sure you guys have talked about this ad nauseium, but I’m there is a lot of the same type within the Blackhawks pool and that’s going to create for an interesting dynamic because I think Lardis and and Canerov are probably ultimately competing for middle six wing jobs on power play 2 and probably only one of those jobs for those two players. I I prefer Lardis to Canerov, but I think it’s it’s very very close and they’re both legit prospects. All right, Scott, super generous with your time as always. We appreciate it. Check out Scott’s work at The Athletic and follow him on Twitter at Scott Cwheeler. We’ll talk to you next time, man. Thank you. Scott, enjoy your week off. Yes, can’t wait. I’m going to play some golf. So, beautiful. All right. Thanks, Scott. We’ll talk to you soon. That is Scott Wheeler of The Athletic. I hope everybody enjoyed that. Interesting that he added that that all those other players uh would have made double digits for the Hawks in the top 150. That’s encouraging. It’s kind of what we were talking about yesterday with, you know, who was off the list is how close some of those guys probably were. Yep. Uh let’s let’s go to overtime. Yeah, I think we should go to overtime. We need to react a little bit and uh put a proper bow on this show. It’s funny how what we’re learning on as we do these things during the chat is people kind of hear what they want to hear. There’s a lot of people who are like, “Oh man, this is exciting.” There’s a lot of people saying like, “Oh god, this is a disaster.” Right? It’s you’ve got the most prospects of any NHL team in the top 100 and would have had the most in 150 according to Yes. But somehow that is like a negative thing. I I don’t look because it’s not instant gratification. Well, not every not every draft is going to be Leon Dry. Like I saw a lot of consternation about Oliver Moore and like, oh, he’s picked a 19th and he’s only going to be a third line. Let’s just go through the last few years of 19th overall picks. Liam Ogrren with the Wild, Federus Fetchoff with the Predators, Braden Schneider, Lassie Thompson with Ottawa, J Bryant with the Flyers, Josh Norris with the Sharks, Kefir Bellows with the Islanders, Fetchnikov with the Red Wings, Tony D’Angelo with the Lightning. These are middle of the pack players. A lot of those guys are not not even NHL players. Yes. Like that’s when you’re in the middle of the first round, that’s where you’re that’s kind of what you’re getting. You’re not Look, anything outside the first round is kind of considered a crapshoot, right? Sure. Maybe if you want to be extra, you know, whatever you want to call it, like middle of the second round. Beyond that, it’s like whatever. I mean, it’s like 20 20% chance that like a firstrounder play like any firstrounder plays like over 300 games in the NHL. Like if you’re picking outside the top 10, yeah, you’re rolling the dice with with with what these guys are going to be. It’s it’s it’s betting on, you know, the potential these of these young kids and and the the upside that they bring and what they can become. It’s a lot different than, you know, you have to have a a a baseball mindset when it comes to, you know, developing a lot of these a lot of these guys in hockey. It can’t be a a football or a basketball mindset where it’s instantly these players have to play in the league and you know be instant contributors and it it it takes some time because you have to you have to physically mature as as Scott was talking about between Lev and Renzelle. Renzel’s older. He’s he’s he’s physically matured more than Levchov. He’s mentally matured more than Lev. He’s been in different scenarios um because you know playing overseas, playing in in Canada, playing in the NCAA, like it’s all different experiences and it all kind of factors into how these players get from point A draft pick to point B professional hockey player and between A and B there’s a ton that has to go right. Yeah. Well, some people got hung up on the term aloof for Lev, but aloof is Dustin Buffin’s aloof. Corey Crawford was aloof. Like Caleb Williams is aloof. It doesn’t mean you’re bad. It doesn’t mean you’re It just means you’re kind of just built different. Lechnov and and Baddard are very different personalities. Yes. And will approach hockey differently. But they could both get to the same not the same, maybe not the same level, but they both can get to that level of being an elite player. Well, I think they can both probably borrow something from the other too. Maybe like, you know, maybe Leanov needs a little bit of the work ethic from Bedard where Badard needs a little bit of the effort. Let’s just go let’s go do our thing and see what happens kind of a feel, you know, that Leanov has. So, yeah, there there should be some some social media content from the Blackhawks this year of the odd couple. Put Loves and Bad put the make them roommates this year and see how and just put a camera in a sandwich. Let’s see what a sandwich tastes. Yeah, exactly. There you go. No, it’s it’s Look, I we’ve we’ve said this a lot and I think it while the Hawks have a very good prospect system, it doesn’t guarantee that all these guys are going to hit, but you’ve got so many shots. There’s only 12 forward spots available, right? You feel pretty good about a pretty decent margin of them already. You know, Fondell’s an NHL player. Depending on how good he is, we don’t know. Yeah. But like there’s only so many spots to fill. And that’s what he’s sort of talking about with the Lardis Moore thing is can it be both? We’re going to see, right? But it doesn’t have to be both. Yeah. And you’re going to get another good pick this year. And like Yeah. It it you you have all of these pieces. Um and you know, you you got to find which which puzzle fits the best. I mean it you might really like a guy like Oliver Moore or Nick Lardis or Roman Canerov as Scott was saying but you know you might have three pieces to the puzzle that only one can fit and you might be in a position where you know you need to fit a piece like Sasha Bu and you value him more than you do having three of the same piece. So you say, well, we’re going to take this piece, let’s say it’s more, and we’re going to we know we’re taking B and we can only take one of these three. We’re going to take more. Like it it it will come down to that that point eventually where all these guys, all these prospects, all these draft picks, they’re they’re not going to all create that puzzle of what’s going to be a contender. And it’s not going to be all the picks, too. It’s there’s going to be trades. There’s going to be free agent moves. um you know it it still has to come together and it and it it takes it takes some time. So you still you still have to have patience with them and you know if they all start hitting their their marks their benchmarks in development that’s a great problem to have. As we say as we’ve said many times like you’re never like it’s never a bad thing to be like oh no we have too many good players to choose from to make our team. So, go fill a need with your many good young players. All right, we’ll be back uh tomorrow at 2:00. Don’t miss it. Thanks for staying on overtime with us. Thanks for getting us over 100 likes. We appreciate you. 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