Haoxi Wang: The RAW Talent That Could Redefine Sharks’ Blue Line | Potential Defensive UNICORN

Haoxi Wang: The RAW Talent That Could Redefine Sharks’ Blue Line | Potential Defensive UNICORN

Hai Wong is about a raw a prospect as you could expect, but the sharks might really have something. You’re Locked on Sharks, your daily podcast on the San Jose Sharks, part of the Locked On podcast network, your team every day. Hello, welcome to Locked on Sharks, the premier hockey podcast covering your favorite team in the Bay Area. My name is JD Young, caretaker of the reef, also the co-host of Locked on NHL. I want to thank you for making Lockdown Sharks your first listen. Proudly part of the Locked On Network. We cover your team every day. If you want to be in every day, all you have to do just follow along wherever you get podcast or you can watch on YouTube as well. And today we’re going to be doing the deep dive on Hshi Wong aka Simon Wong. Uh the defenseman the Sharks drafted at 33 overall uh in the second round. Uh we’re going to look at what uh kind of look at the analytics man. Look at the numbers. Uh look at what the scouts say, what I saw from uh watching him and why I think this could be Shakir Mukadullan 2.0 for the San Jose Sharks. So, before we get to all that, do want to let you guys know that today’s episode is brought to you by Game Time. Download the Game Time app, create an account, and use code lock on uh NHL for $20 off your first purchase. So, uh we’re continuing, you know, focusing on some of these top draft picks here for the San Jose Sharks. uh diving into them and trying to get to know them a little bit more as we expect these guys to be uh future big parts of the San Jose Sharks organization, right? Uh we’ve already done Michael Misa, we did Josh Ravensburg in last week. Uh and now we’re today we’re going to be focusing on how she Wong uh the defenseman from the Ashawa Generals and kind of his story, all that fun stuff. Um, so with Wong like there when you especially when we look at the analytics and the numbers and stuff like that, you have to take a little bit you have to take a bit with a grain of salt just because um he didn’t really produce much when it came to points, right? This is a player who started the season um in the OJHL uh which is like the junior OHL basically. Um, and the reason why he was playing there is because uh he is a Boston University commit. He wanted to like he wants to go to college, but with the rules opening up of him of allowing players to play in the OHL or WHL or the Q and then transfer to college, that’s when that kind of opened up, that’s when he was able to jump in to the OHL. And then you like so there’s definitely like going to be a a learning curve and a like a little bit of all these numbers look really bad, right? Because he didn’t play a full season there and he when he did play like spoiler he it definitely looked like uh he was struggling at times which we’ll get to here more in the second. Uh, but there’s still like a a lot to really like about uh about Wong’s game and what to kind of expect. And again, um he has said that he wants to go by his uh traditional name of how she uh Wong and that’s how it’s pronounced at least to the best of my ability. Uh so that’s we’re going to go with is uh how she Wong um aka Simon. But um so let’s look at kind of what uh you know what he did during his time here. So again uh he’s 6’6, 233 lbs uh left-handed defenseman drafted uh 33rd overall by the San Jose Sharks uh this year and was that was you know kind of a guy who thought would be somewhere in the second round. So, it wasn’t like the Sharks reached on him. And yes, I know there was some potential right-handed defenseman available there, but we know again Mike Greer really swung for defenses and guys who he thinks has uh higher upside and Wong’s upside if he hits and he there’s a lot of ifs, but you can see the path for him. So, um this season, uh Mr. Wong. I’m pulling up my graphic right now if you’re watching on YouTube. Um, he had a uh, again, the numbers aren’t going to be super impressive. So, uh, 32 games in the, uh, OL with the Ashawa Generals, zero goals, two assists, 34 shots on goal. Like, nothing like mindblowingly impressive there when it comes to the actual uh, offensive production. But that’s not going to be Wong’s game, right? Um, looking at from elite prospects, of course, their kind of elevator pitch for him was an enormously gifted skater with a massive playkilling potential, flashes of vision, and the biggest development project in the draft. Uh, but unique potential out of a grading scale of one to nine, nine being like elite per like the you just don’t see nines, right? Even celebrating just not getting nines. um grade him a seven skating, uh five shooting, five passing, 4.5 handling, 4.0 sense, and a 6.0 physical with a B overall grade. Like I said, he split his, uh season between the OJHL, were in the King playing for the King Rebellion and the Ashawa Generals. Um in the OJHL, he saw more point production, right? And of course, much lower league there. We had four goals, 18 assists, and 22 points in there. is averaging uh 0.58 points per game which is much more respectable. Um and then again two points in for the Osha Generals uh during the regular season there. Um he in the play got some time in the playoffs as well. Um, but again, just not going to see much offensive production. And Ashawa was a a pretty good team that went uh very far in the playoffs. Eventually, if I uh lost to uh the London Knights in the championship, but um in the playoffs did play 21 games, saw three assists. So, little bit of a a jump in production, I think, as uh he started to get more and more comfortable playing in the OHL. uh looking at in uh the big thing that that he kind of gets graded on is uh his fleet of foot, his skating. You’re going to hear about his skating a lot. That’s that’s his size and his skating are the big draws here. Uh he’s a tooly player, but he’s extremely extremely raw and those are going to be words you hear a lot when when discussing Wong. Um he was graded as uh the fourth best defense uh four-way mobility from elite prospects is kind of his award. Um and you saw from him like again the the offensive card. Um again not super super illustrious here but 73 overall from elite prospects. Uh 73% offense 65 uh transition 68 defensive. Very good. Uh his calling card in here was uh creating space proactive contact per 60. His ability to create space. Um and we’ll get to that here in a little bit. Um defensively kind of struggle with some of the retrieval success rate and definitely saw that as well watching him. We’ll get to that here. Um and creating offense and like kind of getting the puck from the boards into the middle. Again, nothing and like the transitions are pretty minimal to be honest. Very much a puck over uh puck out uh up and out type of of player. But again, like it is a uh I think it might be a little bit more to do with confidence over skill right now. Um looking at his advanced hockey stats from um JFresh and his website. Um again, don’t freak out right now. 0% chance to become a star star player for them is a uh top 18.5% war over 82 games. So like basically topline type of player and 3% chance to become an NHL that’s a game player who plays 200 games with a positive war. This is because again the data that they tracked mostly in the very low league in the OJHL um and not produces producing a ton a ton of points in there. That’s why these numbers like it’s very points driven for the this uh these metrics here. Same thing when you look at Byron Bader’s uh model uh where they have a 4% star probability and a 22% NHL probability. Uh again with most of his data kind of coming from the OJHL. Um just you’re not going to see a lot of it’s just not a kind of common uh path for players like him. So, um, but again, this new kind of game now where players are kind of more freely able to move around from different leagues to different, you know, I mean, like the CHL and the NCAA like are almost two separate types of games, right? And discussed the pros and cons of each one like at multiple times and stuff, but like it’s it’s two different types of of games, right? Just the style that they play. um the frequency that they play like it is and who they play, right? It is just two kind of different styles of games. But for our boy Wong, he’s going to get the best of both worlds uh because of his projected development path of playing in the OL next year and then moving on to Boston University the year after. So, um what does the game tape have to say for for Wong, right? I mean, the production’s not there. So, why do the Sharks draft him? Uh so, we’re going to get to that here in a minute. We’re going to review what some of our friends uh who have said about uh about Wong and his game, what I saw and then my viewings of him, and then we’ll talk about kind of his timeline and why I think this could be a Shakir Mukuman situation uh coming up. So, we’ll get to that here in just one second. Summer’s here, which means, of course, uh going to go see cool events. Maybe you want to go to a baseball game. Maybe you want to go get tickets to a concert. Um, whatever it is, game time has got you covered. 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I always forget which one it is. Anyway, uh we have great interviews coming. Uh we’re going to start of course gearing up for the new season which will be here. Training camp will be here sooner than you think. Uh so make sure you’re following along wherever you get podcast and of course you can watch on YouTube as well. All right. Um what do these scouts think? So uh let’s start with uh elite prospects. Um they start the OJHL might have produced some NHL talents for the year but rarely do we see flocks of scouts attend one of their games yet it happened earlier this season uh when like 20 executive NHL executive scouts etc uh came to see how Wong um player who of course we know late to hockey right uh you I’m sure you know his story by now but like player late to hockey didn’t start playing till much later and didn’t really kind of start getting into it competitively until his teenage years. Um, moved from China to the Toronto area. Um, again, kind of know his story, but so you have to kind of keep that in mind too with everything. But, uh, they said, uh, reason why because of course it’s 6’6 frame and high-end skating. It’s a rare combination, extremely valuable in professional hockey. Uh, and Wong, you get all the advantages of size without the usual drawbacks that come with it. He can flex his lower body, brings his knees over his toes, and drop his upper body at just the right angle to enable fast and smooth later lateral pivots, crossovers, and backwards strides. Using his gifts, Juan closed on opponents, shook the fore, carried the puck across blue lines, and created scoring ch scoring chances regularly at the OGH level, looking at a high impact two-way defenseman, but his transition to the OHL highlighted his inexperience. Flashes of offensive abilities became more infrequent and the fast pace of play was often too much making him more of a turnover prone passenger. The uncertainty surrounded his projection grew. Still early jump to OHL helped his career giving him an indication that he was able to work on to develop it a high-end prospect. As the season progressed, he started engaging and walling off opponents more as he refined his defensive timing and his breakout game improved as well. Uh, so they talk about too kind of where it’s again raw like that’s that’s the term you’re going to hear a ton when when with him. So, um, our good friend Stephen Ellis who we know uh came on the show talked about Wong and why he uh thinks why he like he one of his favorite players in this draft. Um he says uh again from the daily faceoff um Wong event uh raw is the best way to describe Wong’s game. In one hand it’s unbelievable just how great of a skater he is. He’s quick can move in any direction and can beat smaller forwards. The typical metha profile of speeder you just simply don’t find builds like this. Again that unicorn type of build of a guy who’s 6’6 and can move the way he can move. It’s just not something you see. That is why the Sharks drafted him because they think they can take a 6’6 guy who can skate wonderfully and their team can get the best out of him. So, um he’s absolute play killer and even though he only had two assists this year, he has a decent shot. Uh but Wong is still work in progress. Wong was prone to turnovers this year with some scouts questioning his hockey sense. He could dominate the slower pace of the OJHL, but it looked like his decision-making lagged behind uh throughout the OHL regular season. Uh Wong seemed to improve come playoff time, but his inability to step in and catch up quickly likely hurt his draft stock. Didn’t really. He’s picked 33rd overall. So, uh full year in the OHL could do wonders for him. Wong showed a more prominent role of the Generals who still look like serious contenders again after two straight trips trips to the championship series. Uh Wong needs to show he can make quicker decisions with the puck while shutting down opponents with ease. He’s got the size, but he’s got to use it. From here, he’ll head to beu school that has no issue turnurning out quality defenders year after year. We’ll get more to that uh here in a little bit. Uh and then from uh the hockey news, Spencer uh Lazarri uh so he wrote his scouting report, 6’6, 209 lbs. Wong is a monster of a man. and he gained a lot of attention after starting his 24-25 season in the OJHL and then joined the generals in the OHL and made the most of his opportunity. He’s going to score a ton of points from the blue line, but his presence will be felt. He’s very good at using his size at his advantage. He’s also mobile, can use his speed to break up play. Scouts would consider him to be a two-way defender, but he’s more steady in his own end. Uh has some offensive talent, can join the rush and make a great pass. He’s an intelligent player. It’s only going to get better as he matures. Um, thanks to his great skating, he can join the rush and is able to get back to disrupting any plays in his own zone. Over the course of the time in the OHL, he’s grown a lot. Keep that in mind. And started out making mistakes and wasn’t as confident with puck. However, he stays in position, makes fewer mistakes, is more confident with the puck and his stick. With a player like Wong, uh, it’s going to take a few years uh before he’s a full NHL ready, but the Sharks uh, draft him with the idea they may require more time. Cory’s a player, but they’re betting on themselves uh that they can basically find a the best out of him. So, um watching Wong, so I watched a couple of his games, right? I watched one kind of near the beginning of his O performance. I watched one later on in the season and um you first of all, you definitely saw a lot of growth in that time. um very much a stayathome type of defenseman. Like he’s always kind of the first one back. Um you know, like when you’re watching the game, right, and you’re like it starts to transition your other way, like from the offensive zone to the defensive zone, Wong is always the first one back, right? Um he and you see the skating. You see the skating and how quickly he can kind of generate power and generate speed. um still a little bit of a baby giraffe out there at times where um you would see him try to pivot um and it very much reminded me of Shakiruka Mcdulan who we’ll talk about more here in a minute where you saw him start to pivot and he just he kind of ends up on the ice right um and that’s again not to like Wong still an exceptional skater but I think it’s the like he’s still getting used to his own body type of thing, right? Uh which is fine, right? He’s 17. I don’t think he’s turned 18 yet. Um like he’s still getting used to his own body. Uh I was very I mean most of us who are listening uh were probably also very awkward in your teenage years. Even if you were an athlete, you probably still were pretty awkward in your teen teenage years. And you saw that from him. Um, I do think though like um the confidence like the the big thing I I I say why it’s a confidence over skill issue when you come especially when in the offensive zone because in some of the later games I watched of him, you start to see these little flashes of plays in the offensive zone where he makes these little reads and he find makes these little subtle passes and he finds an open guy that kind of creates more and more offense. But um right now or at least this season he was very much focused on playing good and solid defense which I have to say I think he did play good and solid defense for the most part. um you know the physicality you saw that there right of course when you’re 6’6 and 220 lbs or whatever he is like um you are bigger f like you’re bigger faster stronger than everybody out most other players on the ice right and he used that to his advantage and you saw him clearing the c like I would you coming in almost like a wrecking ball just destroying a forward trying to set up in front of the crease and Wong just kind of came in and and would take the a guy on multiple occasions like that, like you saw him come flying in and doing that, right? Um he’s going to have to learn a little bit more better technique as he plays guys who are the closer to the same size of him, but generally I mean he’s going to be one of if not the biggest guys on the ice like even, you know, as he continues his his career. So, um, but playing well, you know, like along the boards and and you saw some of the shiftiness, uh, behind the net and, you know, kind of creating some space there, but, uh, a lot of the times like he looks for like the simple simple play. And even if it’s just up off the glass and out, which is again, I think it’s probably more of a confidence thing than a a skill issue. And I think as he continues to progress or hope that as he continues to progress, you see less of that, which again, you’re going to see that sometimes, but you see less of that and you see more of him try to just kind of carry the puck and keep uh the play going there. So, um but the skating and and like again just his ability to move and cover space, it’s that that’s right there. that is why the Sharks drafted him because uh it is it’s something to watch just how quickly he can get from point A to point B uh without with effortlessly at times like effortlessly to get from one spot to another. Um and you almost lose track of him because it’s like he plays this is going to sound weird but he plays like a much smaller player because of the way he skates again. like he skates like a much smaller player. Um but then you like then he kind of get like kind of stands up right and then oh yeah he’s 6’6″ type of player. He comes in and clears a dude out type of thing because he’s 6’6 and 200 plus pounds. though. Um, but yes, uh, this though is a player, as we’re going to talk about here in a second, that is going to take some time and it the more I watched him, the more he reminded me a lot of Shakir Muka Madulan. And we’re going to talk about that and talk about his path here uh, in just one second. All right, before we finish up, do of course want to thank you for making Locked on Sharks your first listen. For your second listen, go check out the Locked on Angel podcast. Uh even though we’re down to three episodes a week here at Locked On Sharks, Locked on HL still covering you five days a week. Uh we’re bringing you the daily leaguewide stories that matter the most with local coverage you love from Locked On. Find Locked On YouTube, wherever you listen to podcast. Okay. um Shakir Mukadillan 2.0 I know. And I wanted like I went back and again like watching Wong reminded me a lot of Mukadillan, especially when Mukadillan first got to to North America, right? Um, and we got a little bit of a taste of him after he kind of finished up his KHL career, came over and a lot of the like kind of same stuff of like um you you see the raw raw talent of a player like him and you saw the skating and you saw a lot of the same issues, right? uh go back and watch Muk Madul and try to go from skating backwards and trying to pivot to to skate forwards uh like while moving back into the defensive zone. Like you saw a lot of stumbles or falls and you saw a lot of the same stuff and you saw a lot of the confidence again that confidence issue of just getting used to playing against just a different league, right? Uh and that’s what it reminds me a lot of. Um, and that’s why I think Wong is going to be an extremely long-term project, right? Shakir Muku Madullan was drafted first round 2020 draft. We’re entering 2025 and this is the year where we feel like we’re finally getting Muk Mullan full-time NHL player, right? um you know, like probably would have been a full-time last year if he didn’t get hurt uh in training camp, but still um full-time NHL player and it’s going to be year year five after he’s drafted and I fully expect the same thing. So, I actually I went back and I looked at Elite Prospects draft guide for Muka Mullan and they graded him a four on skating, a four on shooting, a five on passing, a five on puck handling, a five on hockey sense, and a seven on physical with an F-grade. Do not draft the time. He was 6’2 to 170 pounds. So, we know Wong much bigger player, right, than than Mukuman. Um, and like reading his thing, I guess he was 6’4 at the time, but um, some teams going to draft u, Mukadon in the first two rounds of this year’s draft booket, it’s easy enough to understand why some teams covet the gangly Russian defender, too. There’s always a market for 6’4 defense muk skate well and Muk Mullan certainly qualifies. He’s won a letter for Russia internationally and always played on the top pairing last season. Um, even the quantifiable stuff seems nice. Mukund played almost the entire season in the KHL and he didn’t produce. He played 27 games. He had one point in the cage. Again, that is the KHL. That is a full like grown man league, right? Um much different. So, um but watching Muk Mullan play um some of the games uh quote an all-time worst single game performance. Mitch Brown wrote in a game report from the tournament. Mukquad don’t open the game with impressive retrieval at speed. They gave the puck away and continue their uh no fewer than seven giveaways during a breakout and many of them under pressure, sheer variety of turnovers and mind-blowing failed passes, failed rims, failed everything. Mugo just failed at everything. Uh it’s one game Brown caution, but this might be the worst single game performance I’ve ever seen in person. Um he says, “Good luck to whichever team draft Shakir Muk Modulan.” Uh they go on to say we really struggle to understand what the rest of the industry sees in this type of player. Mukbullan uh yes it has been a long road for Mukbullan. Muk Mcadullan looks to be a very solid player for the Sharks this upcoming season right and a player that uh I think if he has the season I kind of expect is going to earn himself a really nice contract. Um, but this is going to be Muk that will be Mukuan’s third contract, right? and the Sharks didn’t draft Pok and of course he was drafted by the Devils and uh became you know came to San Jose with the team Omire trade but still like um I could expect a lot of the same stuff for uh Hay Wong where a player that is uh right we know he’s going to the going back to OHL and I expect him to make big strides in the OHL this year on what’s going to be a good team with Ashawa um and I expect to see that offensive production jump. I’m not expecting a Sam Dickinson, you know, 90 point type of thing, but like you would expect him to see some more offense, maybe get that first goal. Um, you know, like you expect him to see that and then spend at least two seasons, I would assume at least two seasons in at Boston University, uh, where he’s going to be playing bigger, faster, stronger guys. I expect him to probably struggle a little bit when he first gets there. Uh, and then hopefully figure things out and then probably spend two seasons in the AHL u with some, you know, at least one and a half seasons in the AHL with like kind of half a season of the NHL mixed in there as well before we finally see him ready to kind of make the leap and be a full-time NHL player. So, most likely we’re not seeing how Shay Wong make an an an an NHL impact four, five years now. Um, and could the Sharks have drafted somebody who maybe makes an impact sooner rather than later? Probably, right? Like if I had to guess if Blake Fidler makes the NHL before House Shay Wong, I’m probably gonna say Blake Fidler does, right? But again, that ceiling, that ceiling with Wong, yes, there is some uncertainty. There is definitely uncertainty with him, but that ceiling with Wong of a guy who’s just a beautiful skater, um is going to help shut things down defensively, who can cover ice, um and just again eliminate players in the defensive zone. That’s what you’re getting with him. And yes, it definitely goes against my uh defenses for nerds go score points. Uh but having a guy like Wong and then if you pair him with a more offensive guy like a, you know, a Luca Canyone or whoever, one, I want to just see that combination out there. Uh but two is going to especially a guy like Wong who’s going to be more of that stay-at-home defenseman, right? is going to be the first guy back back is and again when you’re 6’6 and you can cover the entire sheet of ice in three strides. Um that allows guys like Canoni to hang on for that half a second more to try to make that one play, right? um or to try to kind of generate that offense and allow those guys to kind of free them up because you know you have an eraser, what you hope to be an eraser and how she Wong in the back. Um yes, we’ll see. It’s it’s going to be a long road for for Wong. I don’t again like you’re probably not going to see a ton of the uh you know like during the season we have the we do the Sam Dickens you know like the locked on player of the night and it’s a bunch of Sam Dickinson with like three-point nights you’re probably not going to see a bunch of of Wong post like that but but I think a full off season knowing where he’s going to be in the OHL and kind of knowing his role um and being able to grow in his role I think we’re going to feel a lot better about this pick a year from now as he when he gets ready to go to Boston University than maybe people did on draft night. So, um that’s going to be it for me today. We’ll be back later this week uh as we’ll probably continue to start kind of reviewing uh reviewing some uh players and of course looking ahead to the uh next season. So, make sure you follow along wherever you get podcast and of course you can watch on YouTube as well. Follow the show on Twitter, Facebook and Instagram at Lockdown Sharks. Follow me on Twitter and Blue Sky Fryhole. Till later this week. Bye friends.

Is Haoxi Wang the San Jose Sharks’ next defensive phenom? The towering 6’6″ blueliner, drafted 33rd overall in 2023, brings immense potential and a unique skill set to the organization.

JD Young breaks down Wang’s journey from the OJHL to the OHL, analyzing his impressive skating ability and defensive prowess. Despite limited offensive production, Wang’s raw talent and physical presence on the ice make him an intriguing prospect. The host compares Wang’s development path to that of Sharks prospect Shakir Mukhamadullin, projecting a similar timeline for NHL impact.

Dive into scouting reports, advanced analytics, and game footage analysis to understand Wang’s strengths and areas for improvement. Young explores Wang’s potential development plan, including his commitment to Boston University and future in the AHL. Can Wang overcome his turnover tendencies and questionable hockey sense to become a dominant NHL defenseman?

Tune in for an in-depth look at the Sharks’ most intriguing defensive prospect and his potential impact on the team’s future blue line.

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