I’m not sure what the majority thinks. I absolutely do not want to trade this guy. If he ends up being one of the next superstars it would be heartbreaking

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  2. It better not be for a rental. I don’t want to trade him but if it is for a guy that is not a rental I will understand. To me Owen Cassie should be your starting left fielder next year. And I know Ian Happ has a no trade clause but players with no trades clause have been traded before so you work with Ian Happ and send him to a team that he will be interested in playing for. Tell Ian Happ this is your last year of being a cub so you should accept a trade.

  3. “Want to” trade? No. I have been a big Owen Caissie fan since heading into the 2020 draft. When the Cubs acquired him in the Darvish trade, I was over the moon.

    That said, he has no position currently. And hopefully, the Cubs will lock up Tucker and he will really have no position.

    Beyond that, as a RF (for a bit) prospect his bat has to carry him. His whiff and contact numbers are still iffy. They’re better but iffy. He cannot strike out 32+% of the time at the MLB and find success. And even if he doesn’t it will likely be inconsistent unless it gets under 30%. Its possible but the risks are real. And unlike Shaw and PCA, when he comes up and struggles will likely not add any real defensive or baserunning value.

    So if the Cubs trade him, it will almost assuredly be in a deal for a SP with control. And as much as I don’t want to trade him, it may be the cost of doing business to get better.

  4. Unfortunately I think he and Wiggins are all but gone. I do not want to see either of them leave, but teams would have to be goofy to not hold out for the best returns possible.

  6. My feeling is that no one is untouchable as long as the price is right. The Athletic has already said that he’s not being traded for a rental. That said, if the Royals for example want to do a Bubic for Caissie swap, then you have to consider it. That’s a top of rotation pitcher with contract control as good as Caissie may be, that type of pitcher helps you win right now and with Tucker only here for the year, you have to try to win this year.

  9. Without extending tucker itd be asinine to trade him. With extending tucker itd still be stupid to trade him for a rental with both happ & seiya contracts ending next year.

    I just dont see anyone that’s been rumored to be available as a good return for trading him

  10. You don’t trade him.He’s playing right field when under producing Tucker walks.Good riddance.

  11. I think this all comes down to whether or not Jed gets extended.

    If he doesn’t, then why not trade Caissie? He’d be managing for his job atp, he’d probably sell most of the farm.

    If he does, he can’t trade Caissie. ESPECIALLY if Tucker doesn’t get resigned.

  13. I don’t see him being traded until after the Cubs see what happens with Tucker.

  16. OK, so you aren’t interested in getting a difference making starting pitcher for this season. Noted. You can’t have both.

  18. If we are smart we don’t. We will not be able to sign Tucker, Cubs just can’t land big FAs I’m sorry to say it. It will be nice to have Cassie and Alcantara in the minors waiting

  19. There’s also the dimension where we don’t sign Tucker (I know, I know, I hope we do too) and we’re going to need one more outfield bat. Maybe Seiya goes back to right, but maybe he stays at DH and Caissie slides over and gets the call up?

    I don’t see this as a better plan than resigning Tucker and trading Caissie for controllable SP. But you don’t have complete control of that situation and it’s definitely a better plan than trading Caissie for a rental *and* not resigning Tucker. 

  20. He is a huge insurance policy if Tucker walks. You can not have enough depth. Next injury, he should be brought up. I watched him in the minors, he’s the real deal.

  21. Deadline Rental trades rarely, if ever, warrant a prospect like him. Maybe top end SPs but there just aren’t of those out there this deadline.
    Controllable players and SPs are a different story. But you have to consider moving him for the right controllable starter. It’s a much harder position to fill and is just so valuable. I’m a big fan of Caissie’s but the strikeout rate is definitely concerning enough. They’re not in a rush to trade him or anything, but if the right deal is there it should be on the table. I’m sure they’ll try to do anything to avoid moving him in a deal though

  27. And we have 3 superstar OFs already. If he nets you a Mackenzie Gore level starter then you do it. Holding on to all these prospects you have a slim chance a PCA happens. But a very good chance a Ben Brown, Brennan Davis situation happens

  29. Would ve okay with it if it were to Oakland or Minnesota. Not the NL and absolutely not the NL Central.

  30. He won’t be going anywhere until they find out what to do with Tucker and Happ

  31. Have seen him twice in Nashville. He’s a bopper but there’s real swing and miss concerns in his approach.

    I wouldn’t trade him (I’d try like hell to trade Kevin A) or Ballesteros for a rental arm and if Jed does that’s a clear sign to me that he’s been instructed to make the playoffs by any means necessary

  32. I’ve heard about too many can’t miss prospects during my fandom that I don’t fall in love with them anymore. I’m not claiming Caissie is a bust in the making or anything, I’m not smart enough to make those assessments. But if the Cubs can use him to acquire pitching help for both today and tomorrow then I’m doing it.

    We don’t need a corner outfielder right now and if ownership/front office does its job we won’t need one next season either. We do need starting pitching.

  35. Jed mentioned there are a few guys who are untouchable for rentals. Owen is one of them.

  36. Agreed. Especially if you don’t know if Tucker is going to resign and you only have Seiya for 2 more years and happ for 1.

  37. I’m really worried they trade him for something meh and also don’t sign Tucker. Then you’re double extra fucked with the side helping of wtf are you doing

    Huge next 6 months for Jed

  38. No Way, keep him, theirs no one available, that I have heard of, that would be worth giving him up.

  39. Only way Caissie should be included is part of a multi prospect package to land someone in the same category as Skenes. Multiple years of control for a young up & coming ace

  40. Everyone is acting like they’re gonna trade him for a rental. That’d never happen in a million years. He’d only be in a package deal where at least one guy has multiple years of control. Or a blockbuster. Stop sweating.

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