Reaction to Las Vegas Raiders RELEASING Christian Wilkins | 3 & Out

Reaction to Las Vegas Raiders RELEASING Christian Wilkins | 3 & Out

What’s up everybody? I’m John Middlec. You know what I need you to do? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. We got content for days reacting to every NFL game all the time, every single day. Subscribe, like the videos. Let’s go. What is going on everybody? Hopefully you had a great weekend. Had a good start to your week. And uh we’re here to talk a little football because Adam Shaft had some comments today with McAfee that I I wanted to dive into in regards to Christian Wilkins and why I think this situation serves as an example to every GM, including the Raiders who were not a part of signing this contract in John Spych. Why you got to be very careful when it comes to high price free agents in 2025. Uh we we’re going to look at some other big contracts that were just signed I I think that are on the opposite end of the spectrum when you see this Wilkins situation and then we’ll just talk a couple quarterback situations some you know McVey Matt Stafford some comments he had to walk back now Matt Stafford is weak to week which we’re we’re not even into August yet but uh never ideal when you got a guy with a lot of tread on those tires who’s just not even able to pass in training camp I did see, we’ll dive into that situation. Another situation that’s a little more positive because this guy’s healthy, Baker Mayfield discussed an amended contract and and I think he serves as a great example of a guy who just kind of gets it at this point in time. And then uh why training camp really starts this week. You know, last week was like uh the the introduction. this week is buckle up, pads are on, and we start separating, especially with younger players or even older veterans that are trending the right the the wrong way. Uh we get a lot more information in terms of front offices and coaches, how they make their decisions over these next couple weeks. The evaluation process is really really important. So before we talk some football though, you know, I got to tell you about my friends, my partners in the official ticketing app of this podcast, Game Time, best in the business. What do you guys want to do? Do you want to get out of that house? Do do you want to go enjoy yourself? We got concerts in full swing right now. We have comedy shows all over the country. Go out and get yourself, you know, a couple laughs. Go enjoy yourself. But most importantly, we’re obviously down the home stretch of baseball. See, the Guardians are getting into a little trouble. 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I don’t know how this thing will play out when the NFL, the NFL PA, which obviously has some issues, Wilkins, the Raiders, they all get involved fighting over the money and the semantics and the details over what you owe me and what I don’t owe you. Obviously, the Raiders don’t want to pay this player, who got well over $80 million last year in guaranteed money. As high as you will see a unrestricted free agent signed for, honestly, non-quarterback over the last several years, it has to be the most money, right? A unrestricted free agent got on the open market. Now, typically, I would say not even typically, good high-end defensive linemen, whether they’re defensive tackles or pass rushers, do not hit after their rookie contract, if they are elite players, big-time players, the open the open market. That does not happen. So, overall, I think this is a very good lesson. Guards hit the open market. Linebackers hit the open market. Hell, second wide receivers sometimes hit the open market. tight ends can hit the open market, but typically awesome tackles and awesome defensive linemen never hit the unrestricted free agent market in their mid20s. Why? That’s not how the NFL works. And I think this serves as a good example. Tom Tlesco is currently on the street. I don’t blame him for signing this contract, right? But there was a reason he was available. We can say a lot about the Miami Dolphins, and I don’t think they’re wellrun. You got to give them credit on this one. They could have franchised them. They could have extended him and they said, “We’re out of the Christian Wilkins business.” Now, obviously, there was an injury that took part to help create this weird situation. If he was fully healthy and had a good year, who knows? I I doubt they’re cutting him, but he gets injured. He’s not able to participate. And clearly they were very uncomfortable with being in business with this player cuz that when you’re paying a guy this type money like the Raiders like being in business with Max Crosby, right? The 49ers like being in business with George KD and Fred Warner. The Chargers like being in business with Justin Herbert and Rashawn Slater and Derwin James. The Raiders and John Spyitech and Pete Carroll. And listen, I I said this last week. This would have been a difficult move for John Spyitech if John Moff or Bill Moff or James Middleoff was the first time head coach and the coach of the Raiders that Spytech had hired this off seasonason. It becomes a lot You like how I just dropped different names with my last name? It became a lot easier to do business this way when Pete Carol goes, I I I’ve been coaching this league for decades. I’ve won a Super Bowl. Look at my resume. I know what I’m doing. I’ve also been in some weird situations with contracts with guys I’ve drafted, guys whose numbers will be retired by the Seattle Seahawks. We can handle this, but this guy’s not going to be on the team anymore. Now, Shfter had some comments today that were kind of funny. I mean, in a way, like I’m just going to read it to you. I’m sure many of you have either seen the clips or read some headlines over what happened, but I I just want to hammer this home so we’re all on the same page. This was an article that uh that Chef tweeted out. Christian Wilkins, who was released by the Raiders, kissed a fellow player on the head and the teammate took offense to it. A source told Adam Shfter the incident was not the sole reason that Wilkins was cut. Sources say Wilkins has been recovering from a Jones fracture while he suffered he suffered in his left foot last October. Last week’s incident, this obviously the kissing incident happened a week ago, happened inside the Raiders locker room. One source told ESPN.com that the interaction was playful, but the teammate did not see it that way. It’s not known what the fellow player did following the incident. A complaint was filed to the Raiders HR department which investigated the incident. A source told Sher the Raiders through a team spokesman have declined to comment. When you are getting to business with people in free agency, especially nowadays where the cap is huge, the money for these guys that are available, you have to pay extra because the supply and demand on the open market. Miles Garrett, Max Crosby, Jaylen Carter, Nick Bosa, those type guys in their prime are never never available. So the guys that are available, Christian Wilkins, always get probably 20 30% more on the open market that they would have got if they just would have got an extension with the team, but they are available for a reason. Their team didn’t want them. There’s a reason typically you date someone before you marry them. It’s a pretty big commitment. and in free agency now the money that is on the line it’s an enormous commitment to make to a player like this and clearly this administration wanted no part of it now we will see how it plays out with the money with the dead cap and obviously there was some stuff in flux but this is a good example that John Spyc and especially Pete Carol who guess what the defense and physicality and the defensive line and the defensive backfield which are intertwined or his baby couldn’t stand this guy. Who knows? And and maybe we will get more information with this kissing incident in the locker room. But here’s what I know. The players on the team and the head coach who probably is going to be a Hall of Famer one day didn’t want to look at this guy anymore. And this is why, right, when you talk about extending guys, coaches come and go, administrations come and go. Look at some of these guys that just got extended. Courtland Sutton, Rashan Slater. They have new coaches. They have new GMs from the guys that actually picked them coming out of college. But there are still people in that infrastructure, specifically the owner, who through the transition has been around a guy and go, I like this guy. I want to be in business with this individual. And obviously depending on the position you play, depends on how much money you are arguing for and they’re willing to pay you. But people have no problem paying guys that are good guys that are trustworthy guys. Obviously you got to be a good player, but that I feel comfortable with. And clearly the Raiders don’t feel comfortable with this player and couldn’t get him to pack his bags fast enough. And I think this move becomes a lot easier when you got Pete Carol as the poster child for your organization. So it would have been a very difficult thing for a guy like Liam Cohen to do. we would have been like, “Does this guy know what he’s doing?” But when Pete Carol does it, no one thinks it’s weird at all. And then this information comes out, it’s like, yeah, the team doesn’t even like the guy. So, let this be a warning. When you are going to get into business with people in free agency, it’s extremely risky. There is a reason that guy is on the open market because unlike some sports, in baseball, maybe the team doesn’t have the money, the A’s, the Rays, they’re never going to pay certain guys. In basketball, if I have a couple Max guys now with these new rules, I can’t sign you. I have to let you go. In football, we can always manipulate the cap. If I want you, I can keep you. And typically, teams want defensive linemen, especially ones they draft. And the Dolphins said, “I’m out.” And then Pete Carol, how many how many months have they even been together now? 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He said because I believe offensive linemen are weapons and they are the tip of the spear and the spear in this offense and in Jim Harbaugh’s offense that has always been predicated on the run starts with the line of scrimmage. So, they pay their guy. They got all They probably going to have one of, if not the best tackle combination in the league. And, uh, listen, I think a lot of people are high on the Chargers, rightfully so. Portland Sutton, speaking about guys again, when you’re a new coach, Aaron Glenn, Liam Cohen, Shottenheimer doesn’t really count because Jerry does whatever he wants, but you can go around the league, get these new guys. A good coach gives everyone a fresh start, but is open-minded to anything. I’ll keep this guy if it’s worth it, or I’ll get rid of this guy if it’s not, regardless how good you are, how many Pro Bowls you made, how many Pro Bowls you’ve never sniffed. And I think Shawn Peyton went into this like, hey, we’re open-minded here. Russell Wilson, I’m going to give you opportunity. Couldn’t get rid of that guy fast enough. Courtland Sutton, you thought, you know, is this guy long for the Denver Broncos? And then they get a quarterback. He gets 81 catches. He has eight touchdowns. He has over a thousand yards receiving. Boom. Gets a big extension. And when you’re an offensive weapon, tight end, running back, wide receiver, and your head coach is the play caller, and you have a young quarterback that clearly likes you and relies on you, you’re going to have some job security. Just like Slater, what does he do? He blocks the blind side of a $200 million quarterback. What does Sutton do? is a safety valve for what I think Shawn Payeyton hopes becomes the franchise. So, we see guys like Christian Wilkins, I don’t care how much we gave you, get out of here. And then we see other guys, we want you to be a part of this as we move forward. So, a lot of action so far u in terms of money changing hands or maybe not changing hands in in the AFC West. I saw a comment probably within the last week and it was like a clip that came up on I think my Instagram feed of Shawn McVey calling Jimmy Garopppolo the best backup quarterback in the NFL. And I’ll be honest, I didn’t think anything of it. I was like, [ __ ] it’s it’s coaches like gassing up their own guy. He likes Jimmy. Jimmy’s been with the team now a couple years. Jimmy’s been a guy who’s had a lot of success against him. uh likable guy, players, teammates, people have always really liked Jimmy. Now, is he the best backup quarterback in the league? Uh I I I think if we went around the league, it’s a pretty low bar. But yeah, in terms of resume, probably one of the better ones. I think looking back why he said that is because he knows there’s a decent chance he’s gonna have to play some games this year with Jimmy Garopppolo. And I didn’t realize that when he said that because a couple days ago, Shawn McVey has to come back to the podium and say, “Listen, guys. I I said that Matt Stafford was going to be back uh sooner than later, probably this week.” I was wrong. I We’re taking him now week to week. Like obviously dayto day could be two weeks. Daytoday could be a month, but daytoday sounds a lot better than week to week cuz you’re three weeks away from being out the entire month. So, when I see Matt Stafford, who played in the league forever, one of the toughest dudes in the entire league, uh, in terms of like, is it make or break July 28th, Matt Stafford practicing? Of course not. I think the scary thing with this is when there are injuries like soreness. When I see that, regardless of where what area is sore, I go that can be something that just doesn’t go away. And then I see back soreness. Um, I like the Rams and I think they’re going to be pretty damn good this year. But I’ll promise you this, if Matt Stafford at any point has to miss significant time, I’m out on them. That team that went toe-to-toe with the Eagles, a big reason why, Matt freaking Stafford. I promise you at this point in time in his career at 33 years old, it will not be Jimmy Garopppolo. I think there are some similarities with Jimmy Garopppolo as there was with Derek Carr. you have a couple major injuries which Jimmy has had and you’re never quite the same because that comfortability in the pocket and I would say Jimmy was never the most comfortable individual in the pocket completely goes away and you can get a little what they would say in you know NFL front offices or NFL coaching staff’s a little gunshy and again I understand why why Shawn McVey is hyping this guy up because there’s a decent chance he might need him at some point this year but I know this if any of this back stuff creeps into the season at any point and Matt Stafford had to miss significant time even with an easier schedule. I I do not like the ramps. Are you interested investing in Bitcoin and not sure how to get started? Well, with the Gemini credit card, a card that I’ve been using now for a couple months, you can dip your toes into the Bitcoin world without even trying. 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For more details on rates, fees, and other Gemini credit card terms, see rates and fees, go to gemini.com/jo to learn more and start earning today. Baker Mayfield, when you’re a quarterback, hell, when you’re a star player in the NFL, a at a position player and obviously the quarterback, you are in business with the team, you you should view it as a partnership, not like LeBron did forever. Patrick Mahomes does not approach his relationship with Brett Fech, the Hunt family, and Andy Reid like some of these NBA star players becomes very adversarial, right? I’m in charge, you’re not. you listen to me, which would be easy for them to do because the Chiefs could not operate with them without him and they know that. But when you show we will do whatever it takes. We got your back. We are pro the we want to be in the Patrick Mahomes business and being in in the business with a star quarterback like Lamar, like Josh Allen, like Joe Burrow means helping you out in every way possible. And Baker Mayfield had some comments to Pete Prrisco of CBS about his situation. He’s obviously relative to a guy throwing 40 plus touchdowns, not making that much money. He signed a three-year $100 million contract. And he he mentioned that his contract was changed to where he got a bunch of guaranteed money in 2026. And even though that that guaranteed money still means he’s an underpaid quarterback relative to guys uh at his position who he’s much better than. He wants to be in business with Tampa. He wants to play there. And I think it’s easy for a guy just like any human being when you’ve seen some [ __ ] through experience, through adversity, and through struggles helps you realize I got it pretty good now. I don’t want to ever risk going back to what happened. Look at Kirk Cousins. Kirk Cousins like, I gotta get the most money humanly possible every [ __ ] time. Okay, Kirk, welcome to the Atlanta Falcons. Godspeed, homie. How’d that go? And I I think Baker and obviously Kirk, I’m not saying he’s not responsible for poor play, but as he said the other day, if I would have known, I would have stayed with the Minnesota Vikings, even if it would have been for less money. It’s easy to say now, but you’ve never thought that way, and you’ve never operated that way. And when you have a bunch of money, and and Baker does at this point in time, and if he keeps playing well, he’s going to have a bunch more, you can’t always make your decisions based on who’s going to pay me the most. Because sometimes that decision leads to problems in the NFL, leads to not playing well, leads to losing. And I think Baker Mayfield at this point in time in his career has a pretty good understanding of like Jason Light building this team, the infrastructure we have, the type guys we have on this team, kind of know what we’re doing around here. They obviously like me. I like being here. And even if in a year they may not offer me $200 million and that number is $175 million, this is where I want to be because unlike most positions, even the guaranteed money for a quarterback, Tua Tonga is a good example, right? He got this huge contract, well over $200 million, but his guaranteed number I think was like 150 or 160. If Tua just plays, Tua is going to see every penny of his contract. I saw it with Jimmy Garopppolo when he signed up for $125 million. Like 70 of it was guaranteed. Guess what? He saw every penny because all these other positions, they try to get rid of you quickly as possible. At quarterback, if you are just pretty solid, you typically stay. Uh, and last but not least, before we get out of here, uh, I think I’m going to do do a Go Low Happy Gilmore review. I I watched it on Sunday night, so we’ll we’ll talk about that. No spoiler alerts today, but I I I recommend seeing that because I’m just going to I’m going to give my full thoughts to on tomorrow’s podcast. One thing that differentiates football from any other sport activity is that you can’t actually play it unless there are litally literally coaches, referees, and pads. every other sport. I could get into the box against whoever is a starting pitcher and simulate an at bat. We can just I could have an umpire behind us and I don’t even need people in the infield or outfield. We can just simulate abs, right? In basketball, I get nine other people if I’m an NBA player or college player and we can legitimately play a game. In golf, in tennis, like you can just play other people. the actual rules and have a real match like you would at Wimbledon, like you would at the US Open. You can play hell, you can play the same course, you can play the same court football, the you have all these practices in the spring and then even at the start in training camp that are nothing like the actual sport because the pads aren’t on. And any coach or GM will tell you, you know, it’s really, really hard to evaluate our offensive linemen, our running backs, even our linebackers. Because it’s one thing to run fit when everyone’s in shorts and t-shirts. What about when people are running full speed and we’re tackling to the ground? Can you actually bring that guy to the ground? I don’t know. We’re going to find out. And in football, most guys that have years upon years of tape, you feel pretty confident, right? If the guy is still moving at the same speed in shorts and t-shirt, you go, he can still play at a high level. We have a body of work. But there are a lot of guys, returning young players that might might have been on the practice squad and then all the guys that you just drafted. You don’t truly know. You can be bullish on a guy being like, “God, I think this guy’s going to be pretty freaking good. He’s flying around.” Then the pads come on and it’s like, uh, a little overwhelmed. And and listen, as time goes on, maybe he gets more comfortable. No one’s judging you p purely on the first day of pads in training camp, but it does separate players and it does go from a place where a team can be really high on a player based on the offseason activities and the way he came into shape in training camp and then the pads come on and a week goes by and you go, “This guy’s not going to be able to help us out this year.” And it can work on the on the flip side of, hey, this guy was on our practice squad last year. We didn’t have high hopes, but he’s kicking ass and taking names right now. He knows the offense. He knows the defense. He’s playing fast. Like I this guy could he start and you start repping in really quick. And it’s the best part of training camp by far. Now, ideally, no one gets injured. We know that’s kind of impossible. We’ve seen a bunch of guys get injured so far. But I I I think it is um a time for NFL front offices when the practice tape really really matters and the evaluations with your scouting department, with your coaching staff, anyone that’s watched Hard Knocks over the years, they don’t show it as much anymore. But back in the day, those big conference rooms where the coaching staff and the maybe a GM and assistant GM are all sitting at and people on the outside, you know, the younger coaches and some of the younger scouts and and they’re just evaluating people because a huge part of football right now, and this is going to happen in college, college is a little different because you don’t have any preseason games. So, you start if you’re Texas or Ohio State or some of these programs, you’re a week in, you know, you start kind of implementing some of the game plan. But for the first couple weeks of an NFL training camp when the pads come on, it’s really all about evaluation. How you handle the scheme, how you handle the information, and what you look like verse, you know, your own team. It’s not a lot of like getting ready for week one. It’s purely evaluating the roster. And you know that that goes for veteran players, too. Like, God, this guy’s slipping. This guy isn’t quite what he once was. And once you start having those thoughts, you go, “Listen, his money this year is not guaranteed.” So, will we pay this guy $12 million? If he makes your opening day roster, his salary, if he’s a vested veteran, his salary becomes guaranteed. So, you have to think twice, like, do we cut him and just go with a sixrounder who might be 85% as good as this guy, but he only cost us a million dollars and in two years they he might be even with the guy. And these are decisions that start really kind of uh materializing, you know, in these meeting rooms and in people’s heads and these conversations start happening right now. Now, it doesn’t mean that it’s going to come to fruition and maybe that veteran guy, it’s like, “Hey, we still feel good about this guy. Maybe the position coach is arguing for him. Maybe the coordinator’s arguing for him. Maybe the head coach is arguing against him.” So, you get all these different factions, which is good, which is healthy. You don’t want everyone on the same page right now. You want everyone bringing their opinions, but once you start getting close to that cut down date, there’s going to be a decision made and everyone’s got to be on the same page. But for the next couple weeks, and you know, the Chargers and Lions, because they got to camp earlier, they’ve been in pads for a while. So, this these conversations have been happening with those teams for a little little longer now. Both those two teams, especially the Lions, are a little more established of a roster. But some of these teams, you know, have I was read the 49ers have like eight spots open. For the last like four or five years, the 49ers have had like one starting spot, maybe open. And it’s like anything in the NFL. Rosters churn. You get to a point where a lot of guys leave and boom. Eagles are a good example. Not as many openings. Couple on defense, really none on offense. May maybe one one position. Some of these teams, hell, you know, the Chiefs, the Bills, like you might get three or four. But it’s not even just the starters because if the starting spot’s open and the backup wins the job, well now who’s the backup? So you kind of get this domino effect which, you know, basically you get up early in the morning, you eat breakfast, you go to practice, uh you evaluate that practice film, you go to meetings, you keep evaluating that practice film, and you’re just kind of doing that because there’s no other film to evaluate. There are no preseason games yet. There’s obviously just nothing else going on. So, you’re kind of keeping tabs with the league if you’re a GM or an assistant GM, but your number one job right now, the number one thing you have to do with your head coach and your coaching staff is nail the evaluation of your own team. And listen, some of it’s hard. Some of these decisions might be a coin flip and you just pray to God that you don’t select keep the guy and the guy that you let goes on somewhere else and then a couple years later he’s like a high-end player and the guy that you kept is not even on your team. But that’s that’s the risk you take and it’s why the more information uh you have hopefully the better decision you can make. But these these are fun times. These are tense times. The these are just there’s a lot of just a lot of stress. I mean, when you have a job that’s like, hey, this job is available and you realize like if someone loses this job, especially if it’s the veteran, he’s not going to be on this team anymore. So, these guys aren’t idiots. You know, if you’ve been in the league long enough, you realize like if I don’t win this starting job, I’m going to get cut because they’re not going to pay me $7 million to be the backup guard. It’s just not going to happen. Buckle up if you’re a fan. You know, you’re reading all these articles about these these competitions. It’s it’s as real as can be.

John Middlekauff starts off by reacting to the Las Vegas Raiders releasing defensive tackle Christian Wilkins and the controversy surrounding both his rehab from his season-ending foot injury as well as allegations of a kissing incident within the locker room. John then reacts to the Los Angeles Chargers extending star left tackle Rashawn Slater and how the tandem between him and second year tackle Joe Alt could be dynamic. Next, John reacts to Los Angeles Rams head coach Sean McVay walking back his previous comments regarding Matt Stafford’s health and speculates whether backup QB Jimmy Garoppolo has what it takes to compete in some games if Stafford is unable to go at the start of the season. John applauds Tampa Bay Buccaneers QB Baker Mayfield getting more money guaranteed in his contract prior to the start of the season and believes that Mayfield is a guy who understands the business of the NFL. John wraps up discussing how NFL coaches are evaluating their rosters during training camp and how they will justify their roster decision making based on what they see on the practice field.

00:00 // Start
02:06 // Gametime
03:09 // Las Vegas Raiders release Christian Wilkins
11:22 // DraftKings
12:20 // LA Chargers extend LT Rashawn Slater
15:13 // LA Rams HC Sean McVay on Jimmy Garoppolo & Matt Stafford
18:07 // Gemini
19:42 // Baker Mayfield
23:32 // Evaluating rosters during NFL training camp

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