Sharks’ Rebuild Ready For Next Step? | Blackhawks QUIET Offseason Leaves Bedard To Carry The Load?

Sharks’ Rebuild Ready For Next Step? | Blackhawks QUIET Offseason Leaves Bedard To Carry The Load?

On today’s episode of Locked on NHL, why it’s finally time for the Sharks to learn how to walk. You’re Locked On NHL, your daily podcast on the National Hockey League, part of the Locked On Network, your team every day. What’s happening everybody? Welcome in to another episode of Locked On NHL, your daily podcast on the National Hockey League. We are your team each and every day and we are your first listen each and every day as well. Make sure you subscribe on YouTube and your favorite podcast platforms so you don’t miss out on any new episodes throughout the week. On today’s episode of Lockdown NHL, we start our look at every single team in the NHL leading up to the opening week of the season with burning questions for each NHL team. And we’re starting from the bottom of the standings all the way up to the tippy top, finishing up with the twotime defending Stanley Cup champion, Florida Panthers. My name is Seth Toal, host of Locked on Wild, joined by JD Young of Locked on Sharks. And JD, we are starting at the bottom with your team, but a team that certainly has plenty of promise for the uh the upcoming seasons. They’ve got uh they got their cornerstone, they got their centerpiece in Mlin Celibbrini. And now the question is just you’ve got who is going to be riding the bike. Is the bike itself good enough to get them from point A to point B. Uh that’s uh we’ll say the front end of the bike is is pretty good. Uh maybe the back end of the bike needs a little attention. Uh but uh you know bikes weren’t built in a day. Uh I guess maybe something like that where if they’re from IKEA they probably were. They were. Yeah. Uh, as someone who actually built bikes for a while, uh, they are a pain to build. Anyway, um, that’s a conversation for a different day. Okay. So, we have like the Sharks are a team, right, that we know has been the worst team in the NHL the last two seasons. Uh, like you said, right, you have Mlin Celebrating, you have Will Smith who had a second a great second half of the season. Um the defa they’ve added some some veterans, you know, like last year they had Tyler Defoley who was an absolute home run for them. They added some more veterans, especially along the the blue line this year. And I I think the big thing for the Sharks, though, is um the goalending, which I I do believe this year is going to be much improved. Um especially from what we saw after Mackenzie Blackwood was shipped off to Colorado and the Sharks had to trot Alexander Corgv out there, you know, every other night. And uh with Ascarov, who’s expected to be a full-time NHLer this year, if he’s just anywhere close to like league average, which I think is a it’s I think that’s a a fair request of Ascrov this season, just be league average. Uh I think it’s going to do wonders for this Sharks team. a team that had I think it was 30 losses by at least by one goal where they were either winning in the third period or they end up losing by like an empty net or you know type of of situation but was basically in most games last season. I think if you shore up the goalending, like this isn’t to say this team’s going to make a, you know, playoff type of push, but I think they can kind of they can be a 500 team if the goalending improves. And I think with Ashcra and net for a full season, I think that’s a fair kind of step for this team with Celibbr and Smith and Eklund and all the other young pieces is just kind of play 500 hockey. I think that that’s a fair goal to ask this year. Yeah. And the fascinating thing for me is just looking at this Sharks roster and it truly is a blank canvas like this this season, you know, you’ve got a bunch of players under contract. Next year you have seven forwards under contract, one defenseman Demetri, baby. Yeah. and that that is the final final year of that deal, which I’m sure is going to be very liberating. But it is it’s shaping up like a roster that the the the pieces that show that they’re capable of kind of being part of that next wave are going to stay. But as we’ve seen this Sharks team do for the last few years is if this thing starts to take on water and any of these guys like just I know it didn’t really go well for him in Edmonton but you think about a guy in Jeff Skinner who if he can get back on track and be can become kind of a 20 25 goal guy there’s a pick at the deadline uh if you can get something for Alex Wterberg like He is he’s a he’s a center. Those are those are hot commodities at the deadline. Middle six centers at the trade deadline are go. Yes. Uh definitely is a player right there. And like Jeff Skinner is, you know, a guy who has has scored a bajillion goals throughout his life except for when he went to Edmonton and didn’t play top six minutes. Uh guess what? He’s going to be playing with the San Jose Sharks top six minutes because they don’t really have anybody else to play top six minutes. So, uh, yeah, I I fully expect some of these, you know, and even a guy like Demetri Orof, who they signed this offseason to a two-year deal. Yeah. Is he starting to kind of show a little bit of a, you know, age slippage there, but he’s clearly the best defenseman they have on the roster and probably better than anybody they had last year. And that’s including Jake Walman, who got a first round pick from the Edmonton Oilers last year. like uh I think what Mike Greer has done to turn this franchise around and clean up this once was the worst cap situation in the NHL uh is commendable and now like you said guys who have a you know look like they’re going to be pieces are going to be staying uh you’re starting to see those rewards right Williamin gets new extension this off season you know I wouldn’t be surprised if maybe like uh Skinner or Clingberg or one of these uh you know defenseman and Nicolleti as well. Like if they play well, like I wouldn’t be surprised if Greer gives them a a kind of a little bump here going into next year where again, right, you you have one defenseman under contract and yes, they’re going to have guys like Sam Dickinson who going to be pushing for an NHL job at least this year and if not, he’ll for sure be on the team next year. Uh, and you know, Shakir Mukum Dylan’s probably going to get a nice extension this off seasonason. But like, yeah, I mean, the the world is Mike Greer’s oyster and it’s just kind of how he wants to build this and how and I think the big thing next is how can you start to convince outside talent to want to come here. I think that’s gonna be the next big quest for my career because right rebuilding is a slow process but you have to at some point you have to start uh kind of injecting outside talent to help kind of speed things along and I think that’s going to be the next next big thing for my career is uh injecting long-term outside talent. So, yeah, it it’s definitely coming down to now, okay, we got to go get that big ad like that that somebody that we signed to, you know, a six-year deal that comes in with some some ability, some talent to be able to take the lead for now. like Mlin Celbrini obviously is going to be driving this bus for quite a while, but it doesn’t mean that you can’t have somebody, you know, take some of the some of the driving off so you’re not having to to drive a full route by yourself. Like you can get tired sometimes if you drive for long periods of time. Yes. Yeah. And I think that’s where like uh like Tyler tooly really helped last year and you know I think there’s uh it was it going to be interesting to see you know you mentioned Celebrini right kind of being here for a long time is uh with Lone Coutur’s medical retirement like there sharks really haven’t had a captain over the last couple seasons and you know is is Tyler to Foley going to be the short-term captain because we all know at some point it’s gonna be Mlin Celebrity right like celebr the team already def like a already answers to him a lot uh you know within the locker room like you’ve seen him spending basically his entire summer with Sydney Crosby uh trying to soak up as much knowledge as you can from you know arguably one of the greatest captains of all time in Sydney Crosby uh like it does seem like it’s at some point sooner or later it’s going to be Celrini but yeah I’m I do think the Sharks though like should be a team that kind of makes that ducks type of jump this year especially if they get decent goalending from Ascrov and Alexander Nadulkovich and Nadokovic has played well with poor defense in Pittsburgh. So I I don’t expect anything different from him um coming to San Jose. So I I do think like that kind of can he just be like a 500 team? Can you kind of be in every game? Maybe like you’re you’re just you’re just you’re in the in the hunt graphic when it comes to like January type of thing. So that that was that’s kind of my hope for this year is yeah, can we start to see some sort of uh wins and loss difference, right? Because you can’t be the worst team in the NHL again. And I know there’s a some there’s a large section of Sharks fan base that would be love to be in the McKenna Hunt, but I just think Ascrov’s too good. I think as win the Sharks a lot of games, a lot more games this year than than what they won last year. every and feel free to correct me if my math is not super great on this, but every year that you kind of take a step back, feels like it takes you two or three years to get back. So, every year that you kind of like reset like, okay, we’re this is not our year, so let’s back up and kind of rego at this. It feels like it you’re you’re restarting your like three-year window to kind of get back up. This sounds like a conversation for uh segment three today with this uh take a step back to two years. But yeah, I mean we know Mike 100% wanted to do this the right way and like I mean between Misa and Celabbrini and Smith and Ekkan and Dickinson and you know just go on down the list like the Sharks, they’re coming like it’s it’s going to be in the next couple seasons like this team is is I I think going to be the next it type of team. So anyway, fingers crossed. Well, and speaking of a we go from a team that is poisoning themselves, putting themselves in position, I don’t poisoning themselves. Well, they might be. It’s hard to say. We go from a team that is putting themselves in position that is poised, as someone who speaks the English language might say, uh, poised to make a ton of moves. We go to a team that thought that making moves is probably a bad idea in the Chicago Blackhawks. And we’ll look at where things stand with Connor Baddard and his merry band of heroes ahead of the uh 2025 2026 season. That is on the way as we continue today’s episode of Locked on NHL right after this. Today’s episode of Locked on NHL is brought to you by Monarch Money. Ever wish your money felt easier to manage? With Monarch Money, it can. Whether you’re growing your savings or planning a big purchase, Monarch puts you in the driver’s seat. It’s like having your own personal CFO, giving you full visibility and control over your finances. Monarch Money is more than a budgeting app. It’s a complete financial command center. You can track all of your accounts, investments, and spending in one place. So, in addition to managing your money, you’re also building wealth. My favorite feature of Monarch Money is that I no longer have to use my credit card app, my finance app, my 401k. I don’t have to do any of that. It’s all in one easy place. So, take control of your finances with Monarch Money. Use code lockdown NHL at monarchmoney.com for 50% off your first year. That’s monarchoney.com code lockdown NHL for half off your first year. Welcome back to today’s episode of Lockdown NHL. Once again, we thank you for making Lockdown NHL your first listen each and every day. We are also your team each and every day as well. And we turn our sights now to the Chicago Blackhawks who had another disappointing season last year. They have made a change in head coach. They are trying to build around Conor Bard trying to get themselves moving in the right direction. But a pretty quiet off season for the Chicago Blackhawks. They did acquire Sam Laughafer and Andre Burovski, but that was it. Yeah. Uh, how many players did the Chicago Blackhawks sign on July 1st? One player. One player. Uh that was uh a Dominic Tonanito I think is how you pronounce his name. Uh he’s like an AHL guy. Like you can play a couple NHL games if you need them. Uh forward. Yeah. And it’s not like the Blackhawks hurting for money. They have currently $18 million in cap space. And that’s with Shay Weber’s $7 million of IR LTIR money sitting on their caps as well. like this is a team that uh kind of sat on their hands. And I know again like free agency is again a team we’ll talk about here in a couple minutes maybe doesn’t always work out for you, right? And I know a lot of guys ressigned right before the season started, but like it’s Baddard’s entering year three, right? Like you’re gonna have to pay Bard soon. Uh it just it kind of feels like Chicago. I don’t know, man. Like I don’t know. Uh like their roster. Yeah. I mean, you know, they have Tyler Patuzi and like they have some other guy. They resigned uh you know, Ryan Donado to a solid contract here, but like it doesn’t feel like they really have a lot around Bard right now. They don’t. And if you look at they are putting themselves in a similar situation to uh San Jose, they have nine for uh nine combined forwards and defenseman signed for next season. Five forwards, four defenseman. They’ve got one goalie under contract with the possibility of having Spencer Knight be sign. He’s a restricted free agent. So he I assume that he’s gonna get a I assume he’ll be locked up. Like you that was your kind of big piece you got out of out of that trade. And like Spencer Knight I think is Yeah. I think he showed a lot last year at the end of the season too for them. Like I think that’s somebody you build around. So but here’s like here’s the question I have that kind of speaks to where Chicago is at. If you’re a free agent and you are going to sign like a four-year deal, do you want to have your wagons hitched to Mlin Celebrini or Connor Baddard? Like who have you seen more from at this point? And honestly, I feel like Mlin Celbrraini does more. It could be that Bard ends up being the better player and I think that’s the expectation, but it just feels like Celraini has more of a a grasp on being like a complete NHLer at this point. Yeah. I mean, you’re choir preaching. Uh it’s hard to Yeah. Uh hard to convince me otherwise on that one. Someone who’s watched, you know, a fair amount of ML celebrity, I’ll say. But yeah, I I I I mean I they do have Frank Nazar. Like I I don’t want to like Frank Nazar is a player who I really really like and I think could be a really nice two seed, but again like who’s the I hate to bring it back to the shark, but like who’s the Tyler to Foley on this team, right? Who’s that veteran guy who’s kind of been there, done that? And I know they tried to do that with Taylor Hall and he gets injured like two weeks into the season and then it just last year like it just didn’t work out for him. They traded him to Carolina. Like I I I get that. But like again, who’s that just that veteran guy who’s still like maybe coming out of the tail end, you know, coming out of his prime, but like a guy who you can kind of turn to and be that guy. Uh and like one is still good, right? but also too is like a a big piece in the locker room and I I just I worry for Bard where it’s just like it does feel like he’s got the weight of the world on him and I don’t again I don’t want to make this shirts for Blackhawks but like I mean just the vibes right like the vibes check is much better in San Jose compared to Chicago and um you know who knows maybe Betard like this season like everything really clicks for him and he becomes the 100 point player that we we kind of expect him to be and I wouldn’t be surprised if that happened, but it just it feels like he’s the one who’s gota like he’s got to put on the Superman cape every night for this team to be competitive. And I I just worry about the help around him. Yeah. And there were some interesting decisions as to why Chicago didn’t make a ton of moves. You know, there the veteran crop that they had on the roster did not gel last year. And there were those issues down the stretch of um some other veterans that have been here a little longer being more critical of uh what was happening at the uh at the end of the season. And so they were like, well, you know, we don’t want to go through that again. We don’t want to be Nashville. But Chicago is another this is another team. So, let’s say Chicago this year, let’s say they have uh a lost season, you know, they they end up selling at the deadline and you’re doing the same thing that we just talked about with Mlin Celbrini. They’re doing the same thing to Conor Bard where okay, this year didn’t work out, so we have to kind of restart our timeline cuz it it it’s not like down to a science, but it feels like if you’re in kind of that rebuild mode, if you do it right, it takes about three years to uh to get yourself back up to the top. And that’s if you do everything right. Yeah. And I mean, and the way they they burnt this thing to the ground, right? They were aggressive and like you’re starting to see the the pieces come to fruition, right? And I I really like they have a very young blue line, but like a very talented blue line. You do wonder if maybe they’re a team that looks to try next time a young unhappy player is available if they might be aggressive with a JJ Purka type of uh you know move to maybe move one of those blue liners to try to add some more help for uh for Connor Baddard. But yeah, I I do I am worried about like it’s very much uh Baddard or Yeah, not much right now. So, I mean, and like I I do think that, you know, the addition long-term addition of uh a guy like Anton Frell, I think, is going to be like a really nice piece on the second line there to to make his life easier. But, you know, Fondell’s going back to Sweden this year. And, you know, we’ll see when he makes his NHL impact. Like, I wouldn’t be surprised if he plays a season in the AHL or at least half a season in the AHL next year and then kind of goes from there. But yeah, uh I I think they I just I was surprised they weren’t more aggressive to try to get immediate help for Baddard for a team that’s been uh just as bad as the Sharks for just as long as the Sharks at this point right now. So, well, they’re further along in their process than our next team because the next team, if things don’t go well this year, they could be looking at a jettison the escape pods and start this thing fresh. What a crazy turn of events that would be. We’re of course talking about the Nashville Predators who outspent everybody at the trade deadline to or at the uh start of free agency. Yeah, thank you. Um they outspent everybody at the start of free agency two off seasons ago and this past season could not have been more off. Was it a one-off? Was it a trend that started the end of Barry Trot’s tenure in Nashville? We’ll discuss as we finish today’s episode of Lockdown NHL after this. It’s the final segment of today’s episode of Lockdown NHL. Once again, we thank you for making Lockdown NHL your first listen each and every day. We are your team each and every day as well. And just to finish the show today, let’s talk about the Nashville Predators, JD, the team that just spent oodles of money. Not this offseason, but the previous offseason. And how did it work out for them? Uh, they were Yeah, they were a top they were a top 10 pick in the NHL draft. And it it all went wrong from there to the point that now Barry Trotz is like, “Well, if this season doesn’t go according to plan, we’re going to start we’re going to start pushing people off the uh off the plank.” I kind of think I like Bill Sim, any longtime Bill Simmons fan like knows he has this kind of running theory kind the season from hell, right? Where just everything that could go wrong could go wrong. And it kind I wonder if that was just a season for the pres last year where it was just like everything that could go wrong went wrong, right? This team like you got a lot of uh veteran guys coming in. Um you know, it was a bit of a transition year or kind of you expected a bit of a transition to start this season like you and I talked about this last off seasonason where it’s like, hey, I wouldn’t be surprised if the PRs start really slow and then all of a sudden maybe like Thanksgiving they start to pick things up. They just never picked things up last year, unfortunately for them. And I do wonder if maybe they’re a team that’s kind of like under the radar is as one of those teams that maybe surprises everybody and goes from picking top five to pushing for a playoff spot, right? Because I mean, you look at some of the like Phil Forsber still pretty good. Uh Stephen Samos, I know last year wasn’t the year he wanted, but like I’m I I think you look at some of the analytics and stuff and he just had like a horrible season, right? Um Ryan O’Reilly still pretty good. You know, Roman Yosi still great. Like they have a lot of pieces. I know Brady Sheay that signing is not looking great right now. You also have this dude named Jussi Sorrowos who’s like legitimately one of the best goalies in the world. So maybe last year was just that year where everything went wrong and I I I don’t know may maybe I’m just talking myself into it, but I’m kind of leaning on the side where I think maybe things just bounce back this year. And like this doesn’t like I’m not saying they’re going to win the Stanley Cup, but I would be more surprised if they’re picking in the top five again than I would be if they’re pushing for a playoff spot. To be honest, I I’m just scanning through the numbers here and with the exception of penalty kill in which the Predators were seventh, they were bottom half in every statistical measure. They were the second worst team in the league as far as goals go. A team that spent a ton of money on Stephen Stamos, a team that has Philip Forsber as you mentioned, Ryan O’Reilly, Jonathan Marsheso, like they have plenty of offensive firepower. It just never clicked. They were never able to find line combinations that consistently worked. You also happen to get the worst season for Jussi Sorrowos in the last like six years. You get as far as games played go from Roman Yosi, you get 53 games is all from him. I think it was just a season that went cataclysmically wrong and they just they had nothing to fall back on to get out of it. Like what do you hang your hat on when your franchise goalie is just off, when your franchise defenseman is hurt, and when all the new shiny toys you brought in at the uh in the off season turns out they all have engine problems? like it just was a mess from the get-go because I think I I think this is just a good example of a team that kind of wilted under the pressure cuz you think about as they made more and more moves the expectation level just continued to rise. I had them as like the number two team in the west I think. Uh, oh, we were so young and naive at that time. But like, you know, looking at some of like the the numbers, right? I mean, this this is a team that shot 7% shooting percentage as a collectively at five on five. 7% worse than the NHL, right? Uh, but like their Corsy4, it’s like top 10ish. Like they they controlled uh, you know, like they controlled shot attempts. Like the expected goals four was kind of in the middle of the pack. It’s just shooting like this team just got super unlucky when it came to actually scoring goals. And that’s why I think I think if Jussi Soros gets back to being UC Sorrows and I think just the the numbers say uh like I don’t think Steven Samos can go like over bajillion on the power play like he started this season. Like I think if everything just kind of you know gets back to being average from regresses to the mean I think is what I’m trying to look for. But like I do think this team like again I don’t think they’re going to be a playoff team. But like can they make almost like the Flames last year, right? Where you’re you’re just kind of hanging around. You’re hanging around till the end. Uh you know and but like I mean the the thing that sucks though is that division is so stacked, right? Um between the Wild who you know I think if they weren’t decimated by injuries last year, I think they could have pushed you know continue to push the Jets, right? You have Colorado is ridiculous. You have the Jets who was the best team in the NHL last year. You you have the the Blues who are forever, you know, Cam Fowler leading the way there with them. Got it in there. Um and you have Utah coming like there’s, you know, like in Dallas like that that the problem is that the division is just brutal. Like you don’t get any off nights other than Chicago. So, but I don’t know. I I just I kind of trust the numbers. I kind of trust the math. And I think this team gets caught back closer to to being in the middle of the pack, being a mushy middle team. Here’s one number that I would like to just hit you with. Seven shooting shooting percentage in five on five for the Nashville Predators on unblocked shots. So these are the shots that get through. Yep. 4.75%. which was that’s like a defenseman like shooting from the point at every shot. That’s that’s basically like Yeah. What you’re asking right there. By the way, far and away the worst in the league. Yes. Um for comparison, the Columbus Blue Jackets, again, these are unblocked shot attempts. These are the ones that get through. The Columbus Blue Jackets led the league with a 7.06% 06% shooting percentage on unblocked shots. So you are over 2% less on those the shot attempts that you get through that you’re missing. Yeah, I think there’s a big regression to the mean. I think this team uh I think this is one of those years where maybe you look back at it and it’s kind of like your your reload season um where you know you you were able to get some some picks and kind of help replenish the the dra uh the prospect pool and and stuff but um yeah I just I I have a hard unless they they want to sell but it doesn’t sound like Barry Trotz like wants to do that. I think this team is is more way more competitive this year. And I think it’s just comes down to luck when it comes to the goal scoring. I I just I don’t see this team being that bad at scoring goals again this year. And if again, if they’re anywhere near the middle of the pack, I I think you will see a much more successful team this year. So, uh, but what does that mean for them long term? That’s going to be uh that’s going to be a fun one. That’s a fun. Yeah. And it it does feel like, okay, let’s say let’s say Stephen Stampos gets to 30 goals. Okay, there’s there’s like two or three wins right there. And they just they just need to check these boxes. Like if we get a little bit more from this player, okay, there’s too much there’s two more wins. And you do enough of that and all of a sudden there’s, you know, 14 15 wins right there. And that’s that’s got you into a fight with the Blues for Wild Card, too. Yeah, I uh Yeah, I Yeah, I I’m I think I’m bullish on on Nashville’s bounce back this year. Again, does it mean long term is the right thing for the franchise? That’s a question for a different day and what kind of the direction of this franchise can be and what’s their ceiling right now. But I just it’s with the talent on this roster, even though it’s Asian talent, it’s hard for me to see them being this poor again. So, yeah, I think it was I think we mark this as like a fluke everything went wrong type of season. And I think we’re we see a much uh much happier Ann and Emma over at Locked On this year. Yeah, I’m I fully uh I I’m fully in favor of that. And uh I guess if for some reason the season still doesn’t go uh according to plan, well cross it off then. I guess we’ll see. But um that’s going to do it for today’s episode of Locked on NHL. Once again, we thank you for making Lockdown NHL your first listen each and every day. You can follow us all throughout the week with our wide array of hosts here on Lockdown NHL, covering all the biggest NHL stories and bringing you all the latest NHL news as well. So, make sure again to like and subscribe. You can find new episodes every Monday through Friday as part of the Lockton Podcast Network. 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Are the San Jose Sharks ready to start building? After being the worst team in the NHL over the past two seasons, are they ready to start seeing results in the win and loss column, and not just the draft lottery? The discussion highlights how top prospect Macklin Celebrini fits into their long-term strategy and vision for future success.

Shifting focus to the Chicago Blackhawks, the podcast explores their surprisingly quiet offseason and the strategy centered around Connor Bedard. Questions arise about the risks of limited veteran support for the young star’s development, prompting a deeper look at the team’s roster composition and long-term plans.

Lastly, the Nashville Predators’ unexpected struggles from the previous season come under scrutiny. Despite significant free agency spending, the team underperformed. The episode investigates whether Roman Josi and Juuse Saros can lead a bounce-back campaign, examining statistical anomalies and potential strategies for improvement. Seth Toupal and JD Young offer expert analysis on these three NHL franchises at pivotal moments in their evolution.

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