Streaking Brewers, first place Padres, Astros lose Hader | Fair Territory

Streaking Brewers, first place Padres, Astros lose Hader | Fair Territory

Welcome everyone to the Thursday edition of Fair Territory. I’m Ken Rosenthal here with Alana Rizzo. And before we get into it, I want to thank our co-hosts the last week while I was off, Robert Murray and Tim Kirken. And most of all, I want to thank Alana because in any business, you want to work with true pros. Alana is a true pro. I am grateful that she is my partner here. Now we can get into things and we can get into Alana’s former team, but we’re not gonna start with them. All right, we’ll start with the Dodgers. Welcome back. It was great. Yeah, it was it was great to be um with Robert and Tim, but I’m so happy that you are back and you’re right. Let’s uh get to the lead and those mighty mighty Brewers. What’s going on? It’s impressive obviously what they’re doing. And let’s go through the numbers first and just explain where they are in terms of the division, the races, all of that. 12game winning streak, 27 of 31. They’ve won 27 of 31. They have the best record in baseball by six and a half games. By six and a half games, they’re on a 103 win pace. And you wonder how the offense works. We’re going to show you two different full screens here to explain just what they do. Runs per game. Right now, they are tied for first in the majors with the Dodgers. It’s incredible. Batting average second, on base second, slugging 14th. Why is the slugging 14th? Well, let’s look at the next graphic here. And this explains it. Home runs per game. They’re 19th in the majors. But what do they do well? Everything else. Strikeout rate 26. One of the best teams in the majors in that regard. outs on the bases. That’s what OB is. How many outs do they make on the bases? 26th in the majors, fifth best. Extra base taken percentage. That’s the last category. Extra base taken percentage, fourth in the majors. So, all of these little things that they do so well. As Brian Reynolds of the Pirates said yesterday, they just do everything right. In addition, Alana, they pitch great. They’re third in the majors in ERA, eighth in strikeout rate. They’ve got it all going. And it’s really interesting to me that they’re doing this in a sport in which what’s valued right now. Power, velocity, pitch velocity, exit velocity. They don’t necessarily have that. They have it to a degree on the pitching staff. But that is not the way they go about it. And they’re shaming the entire sport, doing it their own way, a fundamentally sound way. And you wonder why more teams don’t follow suit. And there’s one more point I want to make on the Brewers. We talk about small market teams, how they can’t win, they can’t sustain success. Brewers make the playoffs this year, which they are bound to do. It will be their seventh playoff appearance in eight years. And you’ll say, “Oh, Ken, but they haven’t won a World Series.” That is not the measure. The measure is getting to the playoffs and then hopefully in any case, but big market, small market, being lucky enough to put it together, healthy enough to sustain three or four rounds. That’s how this sport works. and they are doing it at a higher level than any other club. And Ken, because of the way that they’re doing it, they may go in as a division winner and not have to go in as a wildcard team, which they have been exited early the last couple of years. How big would that be for them to go in as a division winner, perhaps a host in the first round, and not have to go the wildcard route? It’s big for any team, Alana, and obviously it’s something all these teams strive for. We’re going to talk about the Dodgers and Padres’s in a second. Right now, the two teams with the buys in the National League would be the Brewers and the Phillies. And of course, you skip around, you get a buy into the division series, you’re in great shape if you do that. Otherwise, you’re subjected to what you just mentioned, what the Brewers have dealt with, the wild card round, all the problems that can ensue in a two of three. So, they have done this again at an extremely high level. And I want to also mention the Blue Jays here before we get into the Dodgers and Padres’s because the Blue Jays do a lot of similar things. They don’t strike out. Lowest strikeout rate in the majors. High batting average, high on base. They slug a little bit more than the Brewers, but they too are a fairly fundamentally sound team. And it is showing in the American League East what they’ve done there. They’ve played at an extremely high level all season long, much like their friends in Milwaukee. Yeah, it looks like the NL West, I thought it was going to be a two-horse race, Ken, between the Brewers and the Cubs. Right now, it looks like the Brewers are pulling away. And it’s a much tighter race in the NL West. The Padres’s have leapfrogged the Los Angeles Dodgers. The Dodgers are now in second place. The Padres’s are playing tremendously well, and they will face off six times in the next 10 days. They will, Alana. And let’s show you exactly how this has transpired over the last six weeks. It’s actually been one day less than 6 weeks in which this whole thing has turned. July 3rd, NL West standings, Dodgers 56 and 32, a 9game lead over the Padres’s. Today it is a 10ame swing in a span of 41 days, including the All-Star break. San Diego 69 and 52. The Dodgers one game back at 68 and 53. That’s as rapid a turnaround as you will see. And Alana, we’ve been talking about this all year. The one thing that has bugged me about the Dodgers, and I understand it because they’re coming off a deep run into the postseason, a World Series title, but there’s been an overall lack of urgency. They’ve slowplayed injuries. They’ve kind of just drifted along without putting down the hammer. Now again, you had injuries coming off of the World Series title, Blake Trin, Evan Phillips, others who were worn down from that. And you have naturally this kind of let down every team experiences. It’s, let’s face it, old hat for the Dodgers to make the playoffs. But at some point, at some point, they’ve got to turn it on. Now, maybe it’s, as you mentioned, these six games in the next 10 days against San Diego. First at Dodger Stadium and then at PCO Park. But you wonder if the Dodgers will be able to do that. And you’ve got with the Padres’s a team that has shown urgency, a team that acted with far greater urgency at the deadline. We saw what AJ Prowler did. He basically fixed every weakness they had. So yes, the Dodgers are going to get Tanner Scott and Kirby Yates and Michael Copek back. Okay. But what level are they going to pitch at? And is everyone else going to stay healthy? We just saw Brock Stewart go down. He just got there. So this kind of thing, if I’m the Dodgers, I’m a little alarmed right now. And if I’m Dave Roberts, I’m saying guys, it’s time to go. They should know that. I understand that. But it is time for them to go. And on the other hand, the Padres’s, all the credit in the world, what they’ve done offensively, the moves that they’ve made with Lauriano and O’Harn and Freddy Fine, transformed the offense, made it much deeper. And of course, the bullpen is utterly ridiculous. It’s disgusting. It was the best bullpen in baseball before they even added Mason Miller. Now, the Padres’s haven’t won the division, Ken. You know this since 2006. Is this the year that it changes? Do the Padres’s win the NL West? Or do the Dodgers get it together? If I had to bet right now, I would bet the Padres’s. I just like everything that is going on with them, the way they are going about it, the way they’re playing, just the overall vibe, for lack of a better phrase. Dennis Lynn in the athletic today explains by the numbers just how the Padres’s have done this in less than six weeks. I’m curious to your opinion. Do you think the Dodgers can win this division as they’ve done so many times over the last decade? Well, I can tell you that I don’t think that they’ve gotten any sort of positive traction the entire length of the season. Ken, we are very close to what 30 games left in a year, 30, 35, something like that. there’s not been these amazing streaks of time in which the Dodgers have rattled off, you know, nine, 10, 11 wins straight like what the Brewers are doing right now. And I know that they keep saying that, you know, everybody’s not healthy. As long as the Dodgers are healthy to the key components at the right time, which is the end of the season going into October, um, you know, end of September going into October, I do believe that they win the division again, but it’s not going to be by a very comfortable margin. We’re not going to see a 10, 11 game cushion. And I honestly think whatever happens in the next six games with the Padres’s determines the division entirely. So if they win these next two series, then I think they win the division. If the Padres’s win the next two series, I think San Diego wins its first NL West title since 2006. Well, I’ll just add one more thing. I’ll believe the Dodgers are going to be healthy at reasonably full strength when I see it. Yeah, you and me both. You and me both. Uh yeah, they’re getting healthy. They’re coming back. They’re coming back. Well, the Fountain Territory Network has both sides of this race covered. Frier territory and Dodgers Territory. We’re turning out multiple episodes every single week. Tune in for our crossover today with Frier host Kyle Glazier joining Clint Pacus and me on the Dodgers Territory show at noon Pacific. That’s 3 p.m. Eastern after Fowl Territory. Subscribe on YouTube and wherever you get your podcast to the entire Foul Territory network. All right, from the NL West, Ken, to the AL West and the Houston Astros. I don’t know how this team continues to be a top of the division almost every single year despite losing a lot of key pieces to their starting rotation, Alex Bregman as well as Kyle Tucker. How are they doing this? And then Yordon Alvarez in early May, he we have not seen him. It’s amazing what they’ve done. And yes, Christian Javier and Spencer Aragetti are back in the rotation. It’s a great thing for the Astros. But the news on Josh her is rather disturbing to say the least. Joe Espatada saying yesterday it looks like it’s going to be more than two weeks because of that shoulder. It just does not sound good here. And if it’s more than two weeks then we’re looking at the end of August assuming he is actually all right to pitch even at that point then he has to build up again. So will we see Josh her again this season? At this point that is a legitimate question. Now, the Mariners had their eight-game winning streak end yesterday in Baltimore, but they made the two big moves at the deadline. Naylor, who’s been great, Suarez, h okay, and they also have a pitching staff that we’ve been talking about for years that is capable of doing big things. To me, you’ve got to slay the giant. And what I mean by that is you’ve got to prove you can beat the Astros and overtake them in a division race before we really believe that the Mariners are that team. But they are positioned to do that. It’s just the Astros have this way about them. And even if hater is down, obviously it’s compromising their bullpen if that’s the case in a long-term sense. Brian Abrau proves he can close. I’m sure he’ll do that. He did it last night. But everybody gets moved up a notch. It becomes more difficult, as Eric Kratz pointed out on foul territory yesterday, to go backtoback days and close out games because your A guys are used, your A relievers are used in the first game and you might not have them for the second or the third, whatever the case might be. It’s a difficult spot they’re in without hater, assuming it’s going to be that way for some time, but I would still pick them until proven otherwise. Yeah, I uh think that the hater loss obviously is a huge loss. I’d be surprised if we saw Josh her back with the Astros certainly uh in this regular season. Much more to come on Fair Territory with Ken Rosenthal. It’s so great to have Ken back, of course, on his show. Next, we’re going to have Grill and Ken. So, get your questions in for Grill and Ken right after the break. And a word from our Foul Territory partners. Hey, we love ripping slab packs on Arena Club. I just ripped one in a Ruby pack. Those are fancymancy, Kip. 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An opportunity for you to ask Ken Rosenthal some questions. The first question is in regards to you, Ken, whether you believe in peing too early. Are the Brewers peaking too early? It’s a fair question, right? Because the Brewers are so incredibly hot, you wonder if they can sustain it. And the answer is they probably cannot just as the Detroit Tigers earlier this season could not sustain what they were doing. The better question is which teams will be hot in October going into October. And that is when this matters. Actually, some teams have had recent success, the Texas Rangers in 2023 without even being hot going into October and then they got hot once the playoffs started. So, I don’t know that the teams that we’re talking about, the Tigers, the Brewers, can peak too early. They’re good and they’re going to be good, but how can they sustain it and how can they regenerate themselves coming into October, that’s going to be the question. What I like about the Brewers in this regard is they are such a strong pitching staff and with Miserowski back presumably at some point they’re going to be a dangerous team in October with Peralta, Miseroski, Brandon Woodruff doing what he’s doing, Quinn Pster, they’ve got a really good group going right now. So I like that about them a lot. They’ve got depth too in their pitching. So that’s going to be there. The offense can it do what it’s doing right now? I don’t know. But certainly they will drive teams crazy. And I was thinking about this today. Let’s say the Brewers played the Yankees in the World Series. Let’s say it was last this year’s Brewers against last year’s Yankees. Those Brewers, these Brewers would have driven the Yankees baddy, much like the Dodgers did. And they’re going to do that to other teams as well. So, I am anxious to see how they look come the postseason. Ken, is this the best use of a 26man roster? what Pat Murphy and Mark Antinasio in the front office and the coaching staff is doing right now. They’re getting a lot out of a lot of guys. You’re absolutely right, Alana. And it really extends beyond 26. They’ve got guys in the minors who have contributed. Chad Patrick, Logan Henderson, and they’re not even on the major league team right now. So what they have done with a peacemeal budget and just a lot of different elements is build what is almost an ideal team. When I say team, I don’t mean a collection of individuals. A group that works together cohesively and is all committed to the same thing. And that’s what the key thing to me is with them. They have an ethic about them, a way about them in which there’s not much ego. They are all pulling in the same direction. And it’s a team concept. The way they offensively go about it is a team concept. It’s not just guys swinging for the fences. It’s one guy doing this, the next guy doing that, going first to third, sacrifice, moving a runner, all these different things that they do. And they will hit for power at times as well. So from that perspective, they’re going to be a difficult team to beat in the postseason. Tommy Lord used to say that everybody should be pulling on the same side of the rope. That is the 2025 Milwaukee Brewers. Okay. on your article, Ken, recently about Mason Miller, obviously we know that he’s part of that unbelievable uh Padres’s bullpen, but Armand wants to know, were when you’re talking about the Mets being in as one of the teams, would the Mets just have gotten Miller back or would have JP Sears or any other a starter been a part of the package? Arman, that’s a good question and unfortunately, it’s one I did not ask. I was just more concerned about whether they were in on Miller and how seriously they were in on Miller and they were. And the way I reported it was that they were perhaps the most serious team after San Diego. They had extensive discussions about this. I would imagine at some point Sears came up because he came up in the other discussions with the Padres’s and the Mets certainly needed a starter as well. I don’t know that JP Sears would have been the answer. Padres’s already have demoted him to the minor leagues, but to answer your question, I don’t know because I didn’t ask. And Arman, I should have asked. No. All right. Maybe uh Arand can be an apprentice with you one day and just kind of like follow you around. Ken, maybe he can ask some questions. He’s had some good questions here on grillin. Ken, uh likelihood, as we talked about earlier, of the Padres’s winning the NL West, what is the likelihood of the Mariners winning the AL West or do you think it still needs to be Houston? You got to slay that beast as you were talking about. Yeah, as I mentioned before, to me that’s the whole thing here. Houston is the team that has been at the top of that division most of the last decade. And I don’t see that changing until it changes. Right now, it’s kind of a copout answer. I get it. But to me, as I just said, you’ve got to slay the dragon. You’ve got to knock them out and you got to do it. It’s kind of like what the Padres’s have to do with the Dodgers. And there’s something there. So, I would go with Houston until proven otherwise. Let me ask you this before we go to break. Uh, by the way, Dudenor of the week is next. I don’t believe the Padres’s are scared of the Dodgers at all. Are the Mariners intimidated by the Astros? I don’t believe so. I don’t know that it’s the same thing as the Padres’s and Dodgers because the Padres’s in their minds had the Dodgers beat last year and they knocked them out a couple of years before that. Now, granted, the Dodgers came back and won the division series down 2-1 in San Diego. We all know what happened, but the Padres’s burn from what happened. They believe that they were the better team. And certainly now, if you look at their roster, they have every right to believe they are on equal, if not greater footing than the Dodgers. The Mariners Astros thing is a little bit different because the Mariners have been more of a little brother, I guess, so to speak. But they have shown this year that they can win in Houston and they’ve shown that they can beat the Astros. So, I don’t know that it’s that kind of thing where they’re scared of them or intimidated by them. It’s just a matter of which team is better. Yeah, you ask any Dodger fan or player, even Dave Roberts. The Padres’s were the toughest team they faced in the postseason all of last year. All right, we’re going to come back with Dude and Dork of the Week right after this quick break. Kratz, tell everyone why they need to look into a virtual private network, aka a VPN. That’s kind of like wearing trousers. 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Visit the BetMGM app to access the game and you’ll score a prize if you hit a single, double, triple, or home run. Strikeout? No problem. Try again tomorrow. Gambling problem or concern? There is help. Call 1800 gambler. Dude, dude, dude. Time for another dude of the week with Ken Rosenthal. Who do you have this week, Ken? Well, I know we’ve been talking about them all morning, Alana, but how can we pick anyone but the Milwaukee Brewers, winners of 12 straight, got free burgers for the good citizens of Milwaukee by doing that? And it’s just to me a lesson for the entire sport what they’ve done. Frankly, it’s embarrassing the rest of the sport what they’ve done. And there is so much to learn here. There is so much that people can look at and say, “Okay, we can do it like that. You see the 12 straight wins. The George Web restaurants are going to have to I don’t know what they’re going to have to do, but brewers are dudes of the week.” Yeah, the Milwaukee Brewers have single-handedly put the George Webb restaurants out of business. I’m kidding. Congratulations to the Brewers and good on you, George Webb, for feeding your community. My uh dude of the week is a dudet. It is Jen Powell, of course, becoming the first female Major League Baseball umpire. Uh, congratulations to her. That was well-earned. I mean, she’s had to toil through the minor leagues, just as all umpires have had to do. Obviously, paying her dues. Great to see her becoming the first umpire ever to do a regular season major league game. Of course, the game between the Marlins and the Braves, and I don’t want to hear it about the call. Every single person in their first Major League Baseball game doesn’t have a perfect umpiring scorecard. Just yesterday, CB Buckner missed seven calls in the first inning. So, congratulations to Jen Powell. Hopefully the first of many. Okay, time now for dork of the week. Ken, who do you have? All right, Alana, we haven’t talked about this yet, and in any other week when maybe less things were happening or fewer things were happening, we’d be talking big time about this. the Polad family for deciding to keep the twins instead of selling them. They’re the dorks of the week. And they’re the dorks of the week, not for that decision in a vacuum. They’re the dorks of the week because of what has happened the last several years with this team. How they’ve cut payroll, how they essentially oversaw a fire sale at the deadline. How they brought this team down from a pretty high perch. And yet, because they couldn’t get their price, they said, “You know what? We’re not going to do this.” And I want one more thing out there, at least from my perspective on this particular issue. You’re going to hear as we get closer to the CBA talks that, well, we need a salary cap because owners aren’t getting enough money for their teams. Franchise values are not what they should be. It’s not on the players to get the franchise values higher. Players are doing a good enough job just by performing on the field. That’s what they’re supposed to do. So, you want to make an argument for a salary cap, don’t make that argument. At least to me, it’s weak. and for the poll ads to kind of just bail on this sale and do what the Nationals and Angels have done. Reverse course after putting the team on the market, it’s bad news for the fans of Minnesota and that’s who we should care about the most. That is exactly what I was going to ask you in terms of the reverse actions here. How similar is this situation with the Twins to Ry Moreno with the Angels and the group with the Nationals trying to sell and then deciding not to and then perhaps we will and then maybe we’re not. Are there similarities in this? It’s difficult to say without knowing the particulars, Alana, but the similarity seems to be they’re not getting the prices they wanted. Well, maybe they’re asking too much. I don’t know. It’s not something that we’re privy to, but the Twins were pretty clearly in search of 1.7 billion. And the minority investors coming in, as the Athletic reported today, the valuation is above 1.7 billion. So, at that level, they could get it. They just couldn’t get the whole chunk, I would imagine. And again, each situation is different, but maybe owners should not be looking for X when they’re only getting Y. Yeah, it’s unbelievable. 1.7 billion for the Minnesota Twins. My dork of the week is the couple that decided to get married in between a ball game uh with the uh with at Guardians, a guaranteed rate field. Not only to me personally is it bad enough to uh have a jumbotron proposal. Um but how about a wedding in the middle of a game? I I don’t know in between innings. I mean honestly I don’t I don’t know about this. That that’s not not for me. But I guess I don’t know. Happy marriage. Is that am I old lady yelling at clouds? I don’t know. This to me is so tacky. Alana, I can only speak to my own personal situation. My wife would not have gone for such a stunt. Not the proposal, not the wedding, not the ballpark, not any of it. To me, it is so unoriginal. I obviously she has I would imagine she is a large baseball fan or she probably would have put the kibos on this whole situation and the whole thought of doing this, but in between I mean that that is a rushed wedding, right? Talk about shotgun wedding. You only have in between innings like there’s a pitch clock. Like guys got to get on the mound and throw and throw the baseball, Ken. Like do you? I do. Do you? Sure. Okay, great. Go back to your seats and have a hot dog. Um, all right. We are going to say goodbye to all of our friends now watching on Nessen and Nessen Plus, Nessen Pittsburgh, all the things. Um, if you are watching on television right now, thank you. We appreciate you guys very much. We will see you next time. We have a couple more minutes with the YouTube fam right after this. Hey, an easy way to support the show and wear super comfy clothing is by heading to foul territorieshop.com. Yes, foul terriershop.com is loaded with foul territory gear and lots of fair territory gear. If you want to give some love to Ken and Alana, go check out a hat, a t-shirt, and a lot more. Coffee mug in the morning, foul territory.com is the spot. Ken, there was an interesting article from Tyler Keaptain talking about Pete Alonzo and what he means to the New York Mets. Should Steve Cohen and the Mets sign this man up for a lifetime contract to to retire as a Met? I feel like I’m experiencing deja vu. Alana, we were having this conversation last year at this time and it’s going to be a very similar conversation this off season. Alonzo has an opt out. He’s going to opt out as he should and explore the market again. He wants to be a Met. The Mets want it to stay with the Mets. The question is, will they pay him what he wants, what he thinks is appropriate with his agent, Scott Boris? Now, Pete said the other day after breaking the team’s franchise home run record that it’s on Steve Cohen and David Sterns. And I know what he meant. He meant it’s got to start with them wanting him. But ultimately, this is a negotiation between the two parties. And what happened last year? It dragged on and on and on because they could not agree on Pete’s future value. And it it’s going to be very similar. He’s a year older now. And heaven forbid a player turned 30 in this day and age, but that’s what happens. And teams look at that and while he should be a Met forever, the question is going to be how much is that going to cost the Mets? If it’s going to cost them, in Scott Boris’s mind, I’m just throwing this number out. 6 years 210 million. It’s 35 a year. Mets are probably going to say no. If they can get to some lower number that both sides find acceptable, yeah, it’ll happen. But I don’t know that it’s going to be easy because the same dynamics are in place. Yeah. Anything for a price, right? It just has to be the right price point for both sides of the equation. Okay. You have on Fox on Saturday the Cardinals versus the Yankees. I’m not certain that that one is a a barn burner in terms of a fourth place team going up against a third place team in the New York Yankees, but what are you hoping, Ken, to see from this matchup this upcoming Saturday? I’m just really interested to see the Yankees and are they going to come out of it? They had a decent series against the Twins, winning two of three, but they have to at some point, somewhat like the Dodgers, turn it on again, and they’ve been unable to do that. And maybe they will be unable to do that. So, that’s what I’m be I’ll be looking at and focusing on here. Just where the Yankees are, the way they’re playing, how it’s all coming together for them. One guy we should mention, John Carlos Stanton. It’s kind of amazing to me, Alana, how he’s turned it around, both with his career in some respects and with the fan base. Suddenly, he’s appreciated in New York. Anthony Bulpy, Austin Wells, and all the other belleaguered Yankees. Aaron Boo, there’s hope for you all. It’s amazing. One day they want to send you to the moon, the next day they’re over having you over for canoli. That’s going to do it for us here on fair territory with Ken Rosenthal. Do not forget that foul territory is next. Scott Braun of course he is your host. He’s going to be joined by AJ Pzinski, Eric Kratz, and Tom Verduchi, Dan Hayes and Alden Gonzalez stopping by as well. Dodgers territory follows that. Myself with Clint Pillas and Kyle Glazier. And of course, Ken is back with a fresh fair on Monday. We’ll see you then.

Ken Rosenthal and Alanna Rizzo discuss how the Milwaukee Brewers are succeeding on their current 12-game winning streak. The San Diego Padres have overtaken the Los Angeles Dodgers in the NL West. Plus, where the Houston Astros turn now without closer Josh Hader.

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Ken and Alanna crown their Dudes and Dorks of the Week.

The hosts also weigh what Pete Alonso means to the New York Mets.

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