Orange line is their win/losses. Green line is their run differential
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Damn, that’s stark.
Thanks Rafael
It was fun for the first couple months. I think they didnt do any favors for themselves by outperforming the expectations. I still they think end the season at .500 +/- two games.
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The team was overperforming pre-Devers for sure, but the main thing I can think of is Wilmer’s first few months just being absolutely off the charts insane. He was driving in RBIs in nearly every game on a consistent basis, and we all knew it was unsustainable. He was already on the downturn before Devers, but his playing time was reduced and it just made him cool off even more. Combine that with Devers having a slow start with injury and joining a new club while nearly everyone else on the team regressed and the pitching hit a slump+injuries, and here we are.
Can you overlay this with the Red Sox
Remember kids, correlation does not equal causation.
Runs allowed per game before Devers’ first game: 3.67
Runs allowed after Devers’ first game: 4.71
EDIT:
Unbelievable, I crunched the numbers and it’s worse than it seems.
Please do this with the Chapman injury as well. Losing our most valuable position player at about this time, then having him still clearly hurt when he came back was the much bigger factor, combined with some pitching regression.
The Devers data point here is such a leading one.
Just for clarity, I only included Devers’ first game because it is a major turning point for the organization. I do not in any way think he is the reason for the team struggling
Personally I’d tie it more to Buster selling so hard. Told the team “you’re going nowhere.”
It’s easy to blame the Dever’s acquisition as the turning point but I don’t buy it. Happy to have him instead of Harrison and Hicks. He’s a fun guy to watch and makes the lineup better. He’s almost always smiling and I think he gets along well with the teammates. Biggest lingering concerns for me are: 1) Can’t hit left handed pitching 2) can’t hit with RISP
If they can figure out those things they’ll be fine. They are a good team that has grossly under-performed 2nd half of the season. Absolutely should be in the Wild Card hunt.
Of course, this is a very superficial observation, but it looks like the boys burned themselves out really early, and by the time summer rolled around, everyone was low on fuel.
The play on the field is a good example of showing that, as they went from having solid fundamentals at the start of the year, to being very sloppy, regressing to bad habits, and low energy all around.
It’s frustrating because you could argue it’s been the story of the Giants for many years. While it’s no secret that many ball clubs and players in the league become more exhausted as the season wears on, the Giants’ exhaustion always seems so stark for everyone to see. Again, pointing to the general theory that many of the Giants’ woes is more managerial, even organizational, than it is on the players.
13 comments
Damn, that’s stark.
Thanks Rafael
It was fun for the first couple months. I think they didnt do any favors for themselves by outperforming the expectations. I still they think end the season at .500 +/- two games.
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The team was overperforming pre-Devers for sure, but the main thing I can think of is Wilmer’s first few months just being absolutely off the charts insane. He was driving in RBIs in nearly every game on a consistent basis, and we all knew it was unsustainable. He was already on the downturn before Devers, but his playing time was reduced and it just made him cool off even more. Combine that with Devers having a slow start with injury and joining a new club while nearly everyone else on the team regressed and the pitching hit a slump+injuries, and here we are.
Can you overlay this with the Red Sox
Remember kids, correlation does not equal causation.
Runs allowed per game before Devers’ first game: 3.67
Runs allowed after Devers’ first game: 4.71
EDIT:
Unbelievable, I crunched the numbers and it’s worse than it seems.
https://preview.redd.it/zkszhmjz48lf1.png?width=592&format=png&auto=webp&s=30eee5dab98521098462e94326baaadc8aba2d3a
Please do this with the Chapman injury as well. Losing our most valuable position player at about this time, then having him still clearly hurt when he came back was the much bigger factor, combined with some pitching regression.
The Devers data point here is such a leading one.
Just for clarity, I only included Devers’ first game because it is a major turning point for the organization. I do not in any way think he is the reason for the team struggling
https://i.redd.it/8hy8w1ve38lf1.gif
Personally I’d tie it more to Buster selling so hard. Told the team “you’re going nowhere.”
It’s easy to blame the Dever’s acquisition as the turning point but I don’t buy it. Happy to have him instead of Harrison and Hicks. He’s a fun guy to watch and makes the lineup better. He’s almost always smiling and I think he gets along well with the teammates. Biggest lingering concerns for me are: 1) Can’t hit left handed pitching 2) can’t hit with RISP
If they can figure out those things they’ll be fine. They are a good team that has grossly under-performed 2nd half of the season. Absolutely should be in the Wild Card hunt.
Of course, this is a very superficial observation, but it looks like the boys burned themselves out really early, and by the time summer rolled around, everyone was low on fuel.
The play on the field is a good example of showing that, as they went from having solid fundamentals at the start of the year, to being very sloppy, regressing to bad habits, and low energy all around.
It’s frustrating because you could argue it’s been the story of the Giants for many years. While it’s no secret that many ball clubs and players in the league become more exhausted as the season wears on, the Giants’ exhaustion always seems so stark for everyone to see. Again, pointing to the general theory that many of the Giants’ woes is more managerial, even organizational, than it is on the players.