And according to the Fox announcers last night: if you ask Bobby, he’s having a bad season. Part of me can see Bobby feeling like he’s not living up to previous performance, the other part of me thinks Fox’s announcers are full of shit and just trying to stir up viewers.
The thing that takes players from stars to legends is coming up and delivering in the biggest moments. Brett did that through the entirety of the first 10 years of his career. Bob was not great last September nor in the playoffs. He’s an incredible player but he needs to have those big moments to take him to the next level.
I don’t think its fair to use 1973 since Brett played 13 games.
Adjusting it to 1974-1977 changes the discussion quite a bit. He still wasn’t even fully a starter in 1974 and he still beats out Bobby in WAR, hits, avg, obp, and triples. So it makes it a lot more of a toss up. If you do their age 22-25 seasons to match Bobby’s age it changes even more.
But what sets absolute legends apart from the rest is the ability to do it for a very, very long time. Like 15+ years long. Brett won batting titles in 3 different decades, got MVP votes in 11 years, and won a GG and SS well in to his thirties.
If Bobby stays healthy he’s more talented than Brett and the stats will show it. But you can’t ignore Brett’s postseason legend and longevity. Those are the two true separators in this game when it comes down to a discussion of all timers.
Even Q confirmed that Bobby is not happy with his production or his over all quality of play this year. It was a brutal end to the first half of the season and he was right there slumping with the rest of the lineup. One of the most appealing things about a generational talent though is how it shines in all weather, how his down year is still at or near the top of the league in a half dozen important categories.
George was in the HOF after three seasons?
Bobby’s play from last year clears him, Bobby’s play from this year is a toss up
Comparing by seasons rather than games, plate appearances (PA) aren’t equivalent. You only get a true comparison if both players have a controlled variable like 2,500 PAs or a similar amount. It’s similar to comparing Mahomes or Rodgers before they became starting quarterbacks and didn’t play full seasons.
2 completely different players but I like this either way
Why are you marking Brett’s games lower than Bobby’s? Should be same….
Is the question “is Bobby more talented than George”? Cause that answer is yes.
We’ll see if he can keep it up, but we desperately need someone to pass Brett as best player in Royals history, and Bobby has a shot to do that
2 completely different eras.
I would look more at 74-77 for George as a comparison considering he barely played in 73 and it was totally different from the rest of his career. Totally different hitter.
This may not be a popular opinion, but Witt is already a superior talent to Brett. He plays elite defense at one of the most difficult positions and is an excellent baserunner. He’s still early in his career, sure, but his trajectory is that of the best player in franchise history.
I’m still of the opinion that Jac Caglione could also challenge for that. That’s even less certain, but the potential is there.
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And according to the Fox announcers last night: if you ask Bobby, he’s having a bad season. Part of me can see Bobby feeling like he’s not living up to previous performance, the other part of me thinks Fox’s announcers are full of shit and just trying to stir up viewers.
The thing that takes players from stars to legends is coming up and delivering in the biggest moments. Brett did that through the entirety of the first 10 years of his career. Bob was not great last September nor in the playoffs. He’s an incredible player but he needs to have those big moments to take him to the next level.
I don’t think its fair to use 1973 since Brett played 13 games.
Adjusting it to 1974-1977 changes the discussion quite a bit. He still wasn’t even fully a starter in 1974 and he still beats out Bobby in WAR, hits, avg, obp, and triples. So it makes it a lot more of a toss up. If you do their age 22-25 seasons to match Bobby’s age it changes even more.
But what sets absolute legends apart from the rest is the ability to do it for a very, very long time. Like 15+ years long. Brett won batting titles in 3 different decades, got MVP votes in 11 years, and won a GG and SS well in to his thirties.
If Bobby stays healthy he’s more talented than Brett and the stats will show it. But you can’t ignore Brett’s postseason legend and longevity. Those are the two true separators in this game when it comes down to a discussion of all timers.
Even Q confirmed that Bobby is not happy with his production or his over all quality of play this year. It was a brutal end to the first half of the season and he was right there slumping with the rest of the lineup. One of the most appealing things about a generational talent though is how it shines in all weather, how his down year is still at or near the top of the league in a half dozen important categories.
George was in the HOF after three seasons?
Bobby’s play from last year clears him, Bobby’s play from this year is a toss up
Comparing by seasons rather than games, plate appearances (PA) aren’t equivalent. You only get a true comparison if both players have a controlled variable like 2,500 PAs or a similar amount. It’s similar to comparing Mahomes or Rodgers before they became starting quarterbacks and didn’t play full seasons.
2 completely different players but I like this either way
Why are you marking Brett’s games lower than Bobby’s? Should be same….
Is the question “is Bobby more talented than George”? Cause that answer is yes.
We’ll see if he can keep it up, but we desperately need someone to pass Brett as best player in Royals history, and Bobby has a shot to do that
2 completely different eras.
I would look more at 74-77 for George as a comparison considering he barely played in 73 and it was totally different from the rest of his career. Totally different hitter.
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This may not be a popular opinion, but Witt is already a superior talent to Brett. He plays elite defense at one of the most difficult positions and is an excellent baserunner. He’s still early in his career, sure, but his trajectory is that of the best player in franchise history.
I’m still of the opinion that Jac Caglione could also challenge for that. That’s even less certain, but the potential is there.