The Carolina Hurricanes have done it again

The Carolina Hurricanes have done it again

[Music] [Applause] [Music] Yeah. [Music] Heat. [Music] Heat. [Applause] Heat. [Music] [Music] It is September 3rd in the United States and Canada, which means we are live with a new episode of What Chaos from Boston. My name is David Bean. I sit beside Pete Blackburn and across the room in a great Josh Allen crew neck sweatshirt with a t-shirt underneath, shorts below, some socks, and the shoes. It’s that boy with less hair. It’s Sean Depaz. Big dog. What’s up, big dog? What’s up, big dog? Pete, what’s up, big dog? What’s up, big boss? Oh, big boss. That’s good. I gave somebody a a sincere big dog over text yesterday. Big dog. And I as I was sending it, I was like, “Do they know about the Josh Allen thing?” Even if they don’t, who cares? It’s funny that it’s a Josh Allen, right? It’s a Tiger Woods thing, right? Tiger Woods thing. Yeah. Okay. But it has become Yeah. I don’t think I ever knew who Tiger Woods was referring to there. Didn’t know it was Josh Allen. No, he wasn’t. Oh, Josh, he did it for something else. And then Josh Allen, it became a meme. Josh Allen loved it. And then a clip went around of him going out to basically like every cut of him greeting people saying big dog. Who is Tiger Woods referring to when he called that person big dog? I didn’t not Nordrren famously uh he was referring to a lot of other ladies during that relationship. He was the big dog. He was the big dog. He acted like quite frankly a dog. Why is it when people say that men when when they why would they compare them to dogs when they’re bad? Kiss on the carpet. Yeah, but hump your leg sometimes. Yeah, but they’re they’re all good. I never seen a bad dog. You famously referred to somebody as a bad dog. Uh, Steuart Skinner. Oh, yeah. Oh, I thought you were gonna say the coffee machine. Oh, yeah. That’s what it was. Coffee machine. That’s right. Um, I mean, but bad dogs in the same way. Like Steuart Skinner is kind of a bad dog. Yeah, let us know. Pete and I were discussing this before. Uh, should we get the coffee machine repaired for $200? It is a co it it makes an a better cup of coffee than you’ve ever gotten from according to the one person on the show. According to the only one who respectfully has any sort of taste for coffee and I know you two are going to disagree with me because you like like Pete likes Yeah. I have my own me and Sean share a taste for coffee. We have we are we have a a common man’s pal a workingass blue palette. Yeah. DJ has the palette of somebody who went to Italy one time. That’s right. Exactly. That’s right. I I go up to the the reason the coffee machine doesn’t work is because when I go up to it, I say perhaps Pete. The best cup of coffee is a is a cup of coffee, which is uh something that this machine can’t provide half the time. By the way, uh the big dog was Tiger greeting his son’s caddy. So it was Charlie’s caddy at the PNC championship. Not who I expected. So, no, he was saying saying it to his his his son’s the the man who holds his teenage son’s clubs. That is pimp as hell, though. Sure is. If Wait, your Tiger Woods’s caddy? No. And it’s his son. Yeah. And I’m saying And your Tiger said it to Charlie’s caddy. Oh, so he was greeting the man who carries his boys clubs. That’s intimidating. If he was saying it to his caddy’s son, that is pimp as hell. Yeah. You’re the coolest kid of all time. Yeah, he would go back to school telling everybody that Tiger Woods called me big dog over the weekend. And then no one would believe you. His his son’s caddy might have gone to school and told everybody that was my weekend. Tiger Woods called me big dog. That’s a reference to a Chappelle show or David Chappelle joke that can’t repeat. I just saw a clip of a woman who apparently is Mr. T’s daughter. She does standup and she had a whole bit about how she she no one ever believed her when they asked her what she did this the past weekend because one of her weekends included uh Hulk Hogan and Rody Roddy Piper fighting each other in her hotel room at Wrestlemania. Can’t tell that story and I believe you. Right. Very good. Uh a lot of news today in the hockey world and we’re going to get to all of it. Pete, tell the folks what it includes. Uh, today on the show we are going to discuss new hurricanes uniforms and they stink. And uh, it says, “Oh, honey canes.” Oh, honey. That’s not bad. Uh, the jerseys are bad, but that’s not a bad title. Uh, next, give us a sign. That’s got to be a call to Conor McDavid, who is not going to sign with the Edmonton Oilers ahead of training camp. Allegedly. Allegedly. Maybe. Uh, we talked about it a bit last week. We’ll revisit the conversation and the deadline that we set uh last week to start worrying about Conor McDavid and his future in Edmonton. Cheating is cancelled, folks. Cheating is canceled. Speaking of Tiger Woods. Yes. Uh people love that comeback. It was People really pick and choose who they want to see come back after a cheating scandal. I mean, worst things you could do. You were saying you were uh Crystal Leia. You were really pushing for. Yeah, that’s right. I was really no if anybody has like lesser deserved a comeback than Chris Del. Is it Dia Delia? I don’t know. But we were early on Chris on that guy isn’t funny. That guy is like that guy. I listen to our last podcast. We said he was Dane Cook. I mean that guy with people knowing that Dane Cook wasn’t that funny. That guy went from not being funny to being the least funny person alive. And it is so tough to watch. Uh he’s so unfunny as a comedian that he has disabled uh replies on Twitter, which is real tough. Real tough. Uh cheating is canceled because this the playoffs are going to have a salary cap starting this season. So that’s pretty big news. We’ll discuss that. And then finally, the Blackhawks are trailblazers because in a way the Carolina Hurricanes are also Trailblazers. True. They’re owned by the Trailblazers owner. Oh, I didn’t even Yeah, they have the same logo and they’re owned by the same guy. Silio Pepe. They’re all the dots are connecting. I didn’t even think about that. That’s right. Pepe Silia. Pepe. Same thing. Silio. My brain was I was like that’s I think that’s what it is but I don’t know. The comma was silent. Yes. Silvio Pepe. Uh the Blackhawks are trailblazers and you’re going to have to stay tuned to find out why. I have a lot of thoughts on that and I think it is a very good thing. But let’s begin with breaking news. At 10:00 a.m. Eastern the United States and Canada today. The Carolina Hurricanes tweeted, “A nostalgic look reimagined in white.” That’s right. They revealed new road jerseys, which are that if you are watching, but it is a white jersey. It’s got the uh strong red uh biceps. I won’t say shoulders because the shoulders are white and then you got a black diagonal stripe. And uh I would say the the hallmark of this, if there is one, which is often the issue with Carolina Hurricane’s branding, is that it is a black and red Hurricanes logo. Uh inverted, I believe, from right what you would normally see on the red one. Now, I’m looking at the red one and it is inverted. It’s not inverted. It’s It’s uh dual tone or Yeah, they just took the white out of it. Yeah, I took the white out. So, it’s just black and red. No, but I’m saying like the uh if if you look the higher part of it there is red and this one it’s black. It’s black on both sides there. See? Yeah. I mean, I have I have side by sides of these. Yeah. It’s just it’s it’s uh Yeah, it’s it’s just a they took out the white from the thing, right? that I’m saying. They also changed the red look. Oh, yes. I see what you’re saying. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I got you. I got you. Got you. Got you. Okay. So, anyway, it is a it is a different version of the same thing you have seen from them. And yes, Sean has now put up what this makes their current jersey lineup. At home, they have the flag logo on black. Away. They have the classic Hurricanes logo, a new version of it on white with some funky sleeves. does not have the striping of the uh like the the square with the dot in the middle. And then their third jersey is that red one that has the traditional logo that it’s technically not a new logo. It’s just the stadium series logo. Right. And that’s why it says a nostalgic feel like does that count as nostalgic two three years ago when they played in the stadium series? It’s this brings up the same issue that I have and have had with the Hurricanes for so long is that the branding has no synergy whatsoever. Throw up the three jersey set again. None of those things outside of like the the Hurricanes logo, which still isn’t the same. None of that has the same elements from Jersey to Jersey. Their brand is that they don’t have a brand. It’s always their thing. Yeah, you can generally see something that has that Eye of the Storm logo. That’s typically going to be there, but other than that, it is all over the place. We are getting push back saying that the third jersey is not the one that we showed, but I believe it’s similar. It’s a red one. This is not the exact version, but their current one is still it’s that logo. It has the the red squares on the bottom. It’s just slightly different, but yes, technically this is not the current jersey. Okay. So anyway, you look at those three jerseys and as Pete said, the the they are not an eastn stick because there is no synergy there. There is just nothing connecting one to the next other than like the colors, I guess. Do you give them credit for sticking to the same palette? I’ll say this, I like on the home and the new away that they have in the red on the home and the black on the away. It’s kind of like a heathered pattern. Like there’s a little bit of texture there. I That’s a fun element. What I’ll say is like like I’m not totally convinced that the new away jersey is like bad. I agree. It it and it might honestly be better than their their last away uniforms, the diagonal Kane’s ones, cuz I really didn’t like those. They’re boring as hell. Uh I just I it’s my problem is they they don’t seem to know what they’re doing. And if they know what they’re doing, if their plan forever is to just change the uniforms every two to three years and make these like make up the rules on the fly as to what a Carolina Hurricanes jersey should look like, then that’s annoying and I hate it. None of the stripes are the same. None of like the stripe pattern. I’m not I’m not saying colors because you could do different colors and different versions of the same thing. None of the stripes are the same. None on the arm. There aren’t two jerseys that have the same stripes on the arms. There aren’t two jerseys that have the same stripes on the bottom. There are not two jerseys of the three that have the same shoulders. Everything is completely different. And I if you’re going to have three nutso crazy things, I’m going to be all for that because that, my friends, is art. This to me is a little more confusion than it is art. And I’ll add, none of the callers are the same. None of the callers are the same. No. And it it they’ve seemed like they very much have like ADHD in terms of like they will change everything all the time and get bored after a very short period of time. Even like they switch up the helmets very often. ADHD though yields things that look good. Not always. It’s I mean ADHD that that the there would be some kind of hyperixation. They would hyperfixate on making this [ __ ] make sense. Yeah, I guess. Yeah. I mean, the Canes like do seem like they have a college approach to uniforms where like they’ll constantly tinker with something, but at least like most college teams kind of have a lane that they stick with and it doesn’t seem like that’s the case for Carolina. Sean, do you have the um like the one that shows the shoulder patches? Because the shoulder patch, like the one redeeming thing about this jersey, like that I do I’ll say that like I kind of love is that the right shoulder has the vintage Stormy logo, which the vintage Stormy logo is incredible. So much better. So good. And honestly, like I said it before the show, I feel like the vintage Stormy is wearing a cool sweater, a cooler sweater than the Carolina Hurricane. Oh, right. A little jersey seion there. Sean, show the show this jersey if it has the Stormy on it. Put them side by side. That would be awesome. That’s nice. And And the the bottom of it is a little cut out because I just copied and pasted from the shoulder patch, but that looks so much better. You would I from there I would do different stuff about the stripes and everything, but it is just such a better starting point. Oh man. If you’re if you’re going to do the college thing, like really lean into it. And I feel like doing the Stormmy logo would be leaning into the college element. I don’t have a problem that they don’t want to go full-blown college and make Stormy their main thing. But like when you already don’t have a consistent brand image, like just make Stormy a third jersey. Like put that on on black or red and then have the other two be your normal logo. Swallie asks a very important question in the chat. How much blame does Fanatics get for this? Yeah, if anybody doesn’t like it, we know where people will go. They will just blame fanatics. A consistent theme amongst the Carolina Hurricanes going back like a decade. That’s the best part about it. They’ve been doing longer than a decade. This has been happening for a very long time. I love blaming the people who are just pimping what the ideas are for the last and like as we know like Fanatics isn’t really designing these uniforms. Like they’ve been tapped by teams who have been like we don’t really know. But I think that Carolina, this is 100% Carolina’s fault. Yeah. No good. I’m giving this one uh an A minus with a note to focus. That’s a A minus. And apply yourselves a little better. Hurricanes. I should note, Carolina Hurricanes, I’m not just saying this to like make up for us trashing the jerseys. You are so interesting. Your team is so good and I am so you and the Leafs are the two teams that I am super super in on this year in the Eastern Conference. So, but I feel like there’s so many things that like I feel like there are so many things that pull them away from like being in that elite tier of like organization like their facilities suck. They don’t like the facilities. The branding is is terrible and very inconsistent. uh the brand of hockey they play. I I don’t even I’m not even gonna go there. You have to though. That was like the whole conversation surrounding this team. And I would say like the inferiority complex that the whole fan base has. People in the chat talking about Stormmy asking whether or not a pig can play hockey. Sean, what you know about the movie Pig? You ever see it? Nope. I’m looking for my pig. It’s the best movie. Nicholas Cage has a pig. Someone steals it. So Nicholas Cage says, “You know what? I’m going to go around asking people if they’ve seen my pig. Best movie. 100 out of 100. It’s a great movie. Uh Graham super chats in saying just make the Icehog the logo, please. Show hog. Show. Yes. Note to the Carolina Hurricanes. Just show hog. I mean, we might be I mean, we’re nine days away from that happening one way or another. Uh first, I got to say, what does that mean? We’ll get to it. Okay, we’ll get to it. Today is September 3rd. Yeah. Ah, what you know about September 12th, Sean? You listen to our show? You there last week, bro? Yeah. I don’t Isn’t that Isn’t that the the Conor McDavid? That’s frontal. Yeah, I said hog. I said hog might be getting shown nine days one way. That’s not That wasn’t the bet though. The bet for showing Hog. It was a threat. It was not a bet. Okay, but that wasn’t even applying. You’re applying You’re conflating two things. It was the Bruins Canadians. Whoever finishes ahead in the standings, right? This Yes. DJ just eager to show hog. Look, frontal is happening tastefully with no one around in a corner. No one can see me in the privacy of my home. I am a never nude. Uh I am not a never DFS because football season is approaching. Hockey season is approaching. And you know what that means? It means you got two more sports with which to have daily fantasy adventures. And we have them all the time. 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There was an orientation camp last week for team Canada where McDavid said that uh they are going through it slowly and that he quote has every intention to win in Edmonton. that God bless Conor McDavid is a whole lot of nothing because of course his intention is to win in Edmonton. He just didn’t really say when. Add to that yesterday Frank Saraveali on the insiders notebook on Bleacher Report which I must tell folks is excellent. I did a little texting with Frank last night just because I wanted to pay him a compliment on how good this video is. It is a hyperconentrated 20 to 30 minute thing that is not it’s somewhat similar to 32 thoughts but it is more of straight sppity cutting right to you have questions here are answers fans participated in it Frank did not tell me to say all this but I am telling you check it out it is a great weekly video on yesterday’s edition of it Frank said quote my understanding would be that I don’t think we’re going to see Connor McDavid sign a contract extension before the opening of training camp around September 15th. Last week we discussed this and set September 12th as the date of where you start to maybe worry because camp’s going to start. What’s going to happen? Frank now saying I don’t expect him to do it, which I’d say. Okay, that gets me to worry time. Yeah. Yeah. I’m still staying day one of the NHL season ahead of game one. If he doesn’t have a contract heading into game one, that’s when you can officially chalk me down for worried. Yes. But it introduces a lot of things because we we goof around. We go all over the place. We bring up hypotheticals even if they’re unrealistic. A lot of unrealistic talks get more realistic with each passing day. If it gets to training camp and he’s not signed, if it gets to a week into camp and he’s not signed, if it definitely gets to a walk year, like I’d have to check. I definitely don’t remember Sydney Crosby ever going into a walk year. I think like this would be unprecedented. David Posternok went into a walk year, but David Posnock is not Conor McDavid. Alex Ovetkin is going into a walk year, but Alex Ovuchkin is old. He might Yeah. Like he’s just might just walk. probably going to get a a plane or he might need to be Russia or he might need to be reminded like, “Hey, you don’t have a contract.” And then he’d be like, “Oh [ __ ] my bad.” He Conor McDavid knows what he’s doing. He could be going into the last year of his deal unsigned. And I don’t I I I any talk that we do of any sort of hypothetical like what should Edmonton do, what could happen, what would he be worth sort of thing, as I said, it becomes a little more realistic or at least logical. The issue is if the Oilers don’t have Conor McDavid signed going into the last year of his contract, this is such a unique situation in that I honestly don’t know if anything is worth one year of 28-year-old Conor McDavid. Like say a team came to him in more than Yeah. Say a team was like, “Hey, this looks uncertain for you. We’re going to give you everything. It’s not worth it.” There are there are three players I can think of who might be worth being a centerpiece of a trade for Conor McDavid and they’re on two teams. One of which is Conor McDavid’s team. Yeah. Like and the Avalanche aren’t trading Kale Mar or Nathan McKinnon because they already [ __ ] have their guys. I mean I I wouldn’t say that they wouldn’t trade one of those guys for Conor McDavid if they had the opportunity. I mean, I would trade Kale McCard. I would trade anybody for for Conor McDavid. But then the Oilers have to say, “All right, well then what picks are you?” I see. I thought when I brought this up, you’d be like, “Fuck off.” But you you’re like I’m starting to see wheels turning. No, I mean I mean I think that if there’s a team in the entire National Hockey League that says, “We’re not trading this guy for Conor McDavid.” They’re they’re [ __ ] idiots. I know, but I think that more realistically there’s only, like I said, three guys who I think are logical centerpieces. Even I was even thinking I was like what if the Sharks said celebrating Smith Misa Dickinson no like the Oilers like and like here’s here’s the bigger problem is I don’t see from Edmonton’s perspective it’s not even like the trade package that you like you’re going to say you know this isn’t equal value to Conor McDavid obviously it’s not the trade package that you’re getting back in turn. It’s the fact that you traded Conor McDavid. I I think that if you’re heading into the season and you have a walk year of Conor McDavid, you take every single opportunity to keep Conor McDavid on your team for three years, eight years or I guess it has to be seven years. Uh like you do that like to the last second that you can. Absolutely. And especially for a team that’s competing for a Stanley Cup, you have to keep him on the roster. Here’s where like maybe you trade him if you feel like you’re not getting a deal done before the ex before the free agency. You can trade his rights, his expiring rights uh to give a team like a twoe exclusive window or whatever it is in June. Maybe that’s when you trade him. But if you’re the Oilers, under no circumstances would you ever trade Conor McDavid. I would be very worried as an Oilers fan if you head into game one and he does not have a contract because like it seems like like something really went wrong there because it feels like he wants to stay. Obviously Leon’s there. Obviously the Oilers want to keep him. Why did you not get a deal done when you had all summer to work on it? Yeah. And a lot of people have said this, but like his best team, his best option is the Oilers because I don’t think he can go to the Avalanche and play with those other guys I mentioned. And they are they don’t have the young players that he’d probably like them to have. I think he’d rather their goalending be better. But it this weight has to just be about do I want like I I think 8 years is out the window. I would love if it’s 8 years but like maybe he’s deciding between four and five or god forbid he’s deciding between like three and four three or four or one and two. I saw Ryan Rashog said he believes that it’s going to be like three to four I think. Yeah, that seems to be where the smoke is but makes a lot of sense. with Dryidle. I feel like there wasn’t a lot of there was a like look, they’re going to sign him. It’s going to be long. There’s going to be that. But from all of that, and I love all of our reporter friends, I got a little bit of like I feel like no one’s really talking to you, though. I feel like I I feel like it makes sense that that’s going to happen. So, that’s going to happen. I don’t seem to be getting the sense that McDavid or uh who’s his agent, Jud Mulaver, is like letting much out. Like I I I don’t think the average person, maybe outside of Bob, who we should have on the show, has a real sense of what’s happening. Yeah. I mean, I I think that like if you’re if you’re trying to make a logical conclusion, I feel like three or four years makes the most sense like with the where the cap is and where like the Oilers are and whether or not they’ll be able to get it done in the next couple of years. Like I feel like that makes a lot of sense to me. But yeah, I I also would not be shocked if Conor McDavid’s camp was extremely tight-lipped as to what’s going on there. Uh, Kirk Avery says, “I hope it gets done soon because I don’t want to hear about it all season.” Here’s the thing, my friend. I don’t think Conor McDavid wants to hear about it all season. And man, I I guess the most recent example of it might be Tavvarz, but we didn’t think Tavvarz was really leaving. The biggest one, like I The biggest one the recently was Posterno because when Posternok was in his walk year and scoring Yeah. every game. I was as a Bruins fan, I couldn’t enjoy any of those goals. I was like, “Sign him right now. He’s driving up the price every single day.” The most fascinating one for me, and I forget what year it was, so apologies. It was probably 2013, 14, 15, somewhere in that range. Stamos when the the relationship was starting to really look rocky and it was like, “Oh, damn. He actually might leave and we have to take this seriously. It’s look good players hit free agency all the time. Art Tammy Paneran, Bob, Johnny Gdro, like this does happen, but it doesn’t happen with Conor McDavid. It doesn’t. And I I guess I guess like this YouTube video would be called why we can’t talk about a Conor McDavid trade after we talked about a Conor McDavid trade. There’s just nothing that would make it worth not having him for this season when you are a Stanley Cup contender. Think of what the Bruins that postern year did. They were so much better than everybody and they still mortgaged their entire future just to get a couple more pieces just to get Tyler Bertusi, just to get Dimmitri, just to get whoever the [ __ ] else they got. Like when you’re that close to winning the cup, you push all your chips in. And in this case, pushing all your chips in is keeping Conor McDavid every day you can keep him. And I still don’t think he’s going to leave Leandro. I was going to say like it’s impractical. Where are you where you at? Are you still on like the not worried section of things right now? It seems like you’re waiting a little bit into maybe worried territory. I think my brain is starting to do fun exercises, which aren’t very fun, but I didn’t think they were going to do those sorts of things. Uh JRock, great musician says, “What if McDavid truly wants to be a Maple Leaf? I believe your name is supposed to be Golden Muzzy, right?” Is that what Nick Alber? This is Albera in the chat. Nice. Nick Albera, my dear friend who watches every Oilers game and whenever they allow a goal, tweets like, “Man, you got to think Conor McDavid wants to leave this buddy.” I I was going to say he’s not leaving, but the last 10 minutes says that maybe at least we’re considering that we could get to worried territory. I’ll say this. I I think I I I still think that he stays. Um I would be really surprised if he did not stay in Edmonton, but I am also really surprised that he does not have a deal right now. That’s the thing. And that’s where I’m like, if if he hasn’t signed now, what makes me say think he’s going to sign next week? Yeah. What’s going to happen in like two to three weeks that like didn’t get done over the past few weeks? And could it really? A popular thought was like he’s going to use this summer to make them get a better goalie and they didn’t get a better goalie. I mean, what what if the possibility though is that he still doesn’t know where he wants to go? Like, what if he’s still deciding? What if there’s three, four contracts on the table that he’s interested in, he likes, but it just hasn’t chosen one? But no, like where he want like you do you mean like which like which contract, which structure? Like maybe he and his camp are still undecided what’s best for him. But then I feel like he would have said in one of these interviews like press conferences like I’m I’m probably going to stay or something. I don’t know. Yeah. His comments like his his very like nothing burger comments I feel like raise some red flags. It’s very like don’t worry about it. But when someone says don’t worry about it, it can often mean leave me alone and not there’s nothing to worry about, right? I don’t know man. I this will be a very interesting season on what chaos if that man is unsigned. I still think he will but [ __ ] we thought it would be done July 1st and then we thought it would be done July 2nd and now we are September 3rd the anniversary of the most important moment in NHL history and Conor McDavid is still unsigned. Sean, you’re awfully quiet over there. All I’m saying is that every fan base should get to Photoshop uh if he is not signed on day one. So that’s what I’m saying when you ask every time he scores a goal, you’re going to see a photoshop of Conor McDavid in a different jersey. So like that’s the thing I’ve already thought about who who would be the most fun team to sign where and it’s the Sharks, but the Buffalo Sabres. Very very It would be so great if Oh, wait. No, I got it. It would be the Sharks, but uh Greer wouldn’t give him a no trade because he would trade him as soon as he could for being more than 21 and a half years old. That’s right. Buffalo Sabres. Get him back with Cloud. He’s signing. He’s going to be an Oiler. The life is not uh fair or is not like it’d be too fun. It’d be too awesome for 31 fan bases to think they have a chance at Conor McDavid. He’s obviously just going to stay. Eileen says, “You think Stan Bowman won’t sign Hart?” There has been a moratorum on talking about Conor Hart on every podcast. Another thing I will credit Frank Saraveali for, like has at least addressed that this is a guy that teams could sign. I’ve said a million times, if I’m the Oilers, I’m not signing Carter Hart. And if I’m Conor McDavid, I am not staying because the Oilers signed Connor Hart or Carter Hart. That would be such disrespect to Stu Skinner and uh Calvin Pickard if Carter Hart is all you need to think, okay, our goalending is better. I would rather have Stu Skinner than Carter Hart. Also, he’s ineligible to be signed. Yeah. Cannot be signed. So, until until that changes, I don’t want to talk about Carter Hart. Yeah. I Nobody wants I I’ I’ve texted these guys about it. Every time that name comes up on a podcast, the hosts are like, “How can we end this as quickly as possible?” And as Pete said, guy can’t be signed anyway, so what is the point? Uh, also from Frank Saraveali, Panthers not allowed to cheat this season. Uh Frank tweeted yesterday that this year uh or starting this year, some of the facets of the new CBA, which begins next September 16th, uh can be rolled out. And among them, the new playoff salary cap system will come into effect this season for the 2026 Stanley Cup playoffs. Now, if you do not know what that is, it’s that LTIR relief. Well, it’s that you have to be under the salary cap and that LTIR relief is going to be the average of the previous year’s salary. So, instead of if you if you have a this past year, if you had an $8 million player get hurt, you can’t stash them and get $8 million in salary cap relief. You would get something like $3.8 8 million in salary cap relief because that is what the uh average salary cap hit was the previous year. This makes things interesting. I’m the guy from the hangover right now with all these numbers. Do you do you get it, Sean, that instead of instead of the cap hit, it’s the average of what last year’s cap hits were. I think I’ll get it once it’s being used. I need to see it in effect, but like I understand generally like what it’s trying to accomplish. I guess I don’t necessarily understand the specifics of it, but I think the biggest target for this would be Oh, I think it’s to stop what has happened with Vegas, what has happened certainly with Tampa and what has happened with the uh the Panthers. Last year, the Panthers were quite a bit over the salary cap in the playoffs, which I was going to say it’s not why they won the cup, but like it helped. It’s definitely helped that they they are the most that’s not like the tax thing where you’re like h it could be like they were a $93 million team playing against an $80 million team and like their second best player in the playoffs was a guy that you don’t you can’t add without fudging the numbers a little bit. Yeah. So, I I say for now that I’m into it, but I think there’s going to be moments in the playoffs, whether it’s a team I’m rooting for or a team I don’t care about, they’re going to be like, “Man, it’d be cool if they could have gone out and gotten whatever version of like like this season’s version of Brad Marshand. Maybe that doesn’t end up happening.” Or maybe Brad Marshand, if he got traded, would have had to be traded to another team. Yeah. But I also like part of me doesn’t want like a big mid-season injury to be looked at as a possible benefit to a team. Like when Matthew Kachchuck went down at Four Nations and there was chatter that like, oh, he’s probably not going to play the rest of the regular season, we immediately jumped to, all right, well, Seth Jones probably going to Florida. Yeah. Like like that opens the door for them to get Seth Jones. That’s exactly what they went out and did. And like I don’t I I guess I just don’t want that like injury to open up a door as wide as it has in the past. Yeah. And I mean you were just saying you were confused by the explanation of this. Imagine someone who is a casual hockey fan and is like wait so this team gets to just have more players because this guy got surgery at this time or whatever. casual hockey fans even think about that though. I think casual hockey fans are just like, “My team has cool players.” But it but like explaining it to a casual hockey fan, I’m I’m sure it sounds so [ __ ] ridiculous that they’re just like, “Wait, you’re allowed to do that?” Like, maybe not. Like, does it work that way in other sports? Like no, it that’s the thing is like hockey is very interesting because I would say that there’s like uh I guess like per capita for like like not a lot of casuals like cuz if you’re into hockey you have to be into hockey cuz it’s not like it’s it permeates everything like football. I I think this is ultimately will make the league more boring and I don’t think that’s what I’m I think it makes the deadline less probably makes the deadline less interesting and I think you get good players and because of that you’ll get good players stuck on bad teams and not in the playoffs. I think you kind of you had to I guess I don’t even think you had to honestly I think it’s kind of like the tax thing. Who gives a [ __ ] The world like life’s not fair and it uh ultimately I think it’s better for the league to have more good players on concentrated at the end of the I agree it makes it less exciting. But who are the teams who have done it? Chicago Blackhawks won the cup. Lightning won the cup. Vegas Golden Knights won the cup. Panthers won the cup. So like it’s made for some exciting stuff, but it has also changed the balance. But at the But like I don’t know. I think like the alternative there is Patrick Patrick Kane maybe the greatest American hockey player of all time doesn’t get cups. Doesn’t get doesn’t get to be that. Uh Stamos gets stuck not winning cups. Like it’s not like like their stars were still players that they drafted and developed. So ultimately what you got was faces of the league, players that were good for the league have a chance to play on a bigger stage and accomplish more, which I ultimately think is only beneficial. I get Antoine Vertt’s family listens to this show. So when you say that Patrick Kane was more valuable to the Blackhawks than him, it hurts some feelings. Sean, I just call it like I see it. I get that you have to it’s sports and like the name of the game is fairness so you have to you have to do things in the sake of fairness but like ultimately I think for a casual fan like will but this this does happen in sports a lot where like certain teams find a way to game the system better than like the rest of the field and so like fair or not the rules are changed to res restore that competitive balance a little bit more I I think about football a lot and specifically like the NFL. There are so many times where like either Bellich or some of these other like coaches outthink the rest of the field and show that they can like they can widen that gap between like the true creatives and kind of the rest of the field and the league kind of has to shrink that balance if they can. And I feel like that’s kind of what’s happening here. I mean that that was that was kind of another thing I gonna say is that like ultimately I think like you in theory you have this like the smartest possible people in charge of these teams like they’ll find other ways right but force them to find the other ways. Yeah. I agree. I just think like ultimately the only point I was making is that I don’t think it was that big of an issue and at least in the immediate future worsened the product. But I don’t think like that is just kind of the right I don’t think I don’t think it was a big issue because everybody was allowed to do it like everybody was allowed to do it but we know that not all teams don’t open the same like I like as Pete said find another way to do it that the Jets can also do you know or like that that just insert team that doesn’t have the that doesn’t have their star player hurt and doesn’t have this and doesn’t have an owner who spend who’s like willing to go above, you know? Yeah. But I mean, I’m also a Boston Red Sox fan. Like no salary cap. No salary cap. It’s like 2004. They were the most expensive roster to ever win a World Series. Yeah. Now they don’t pay players. I’m pretty sure they do. They No, they don’t. I was going to say, do they pay now less for their roster than they did in 2004? That’d be so funny. That’d be ridiculous. They only had 20 one $20 million player back then. Okay. The biggest news though of the week is that it’s been the summer of Cold Play. Seth Jones, Half the Panthers, Jeremy Swayman, Charlie Makavoy, Arbor Jack Eye. So many NHL players going to see Cold Play. Cold Play concert is where you find the bad civilians and the good hockey players, right? The Blackhawks this past week tweeted, “Thanks to Benson Boone for saying hi to the Felino family at the American Heart Tour.” That’s right. The whole NHL Ziggs and the Blackhawks are circumventing the concert calendar by going to Benson Boone instead of Coldplay. And to that, I say Nick Felino, that’s my captain. I love it. Do your own thing, Playboy. I don’t like that you’re framing this in a one or like one or the other. I think maybe Nick Fino has Nick Fino doesn’t go to two concerts a summer. I don’t know. Are Coldplay still on tour? Is that still happening? Probably. Uh this is this like a Nick Felino thing or is this a Nick Felino’s kids thing? I feel like this is uh he’s the captain of the Chicago Blackhawks and he was performing at United Center and they were like, “Will you come to the show?” Uh maybe. I don’t think this was like the Felinos were not I mean maybe cuz like the Curry went to a a Benson I was going to say like I don’t I don’t think we’ve met Nick Felino. He’s a cool dude which makes me think he is not knocking down the door to go see Benson Boom. I I don’t say this as like a I’m too cool. I don’t say this as like a derogatory statement. I have no [ __ ] clue who that person is. That’s wrong. I don’t I have heard the name. I don’t know who that person is. I did not even know that they were a musician. He was the the backflip dude. Remember he had Heidi Clume rip off his tux and he back flipped in his sparkly one piece. You have god none of that with you. That’s crazy. If you are a pretty avid social media user, I I’m not saying I don’t believe you, but I think that somehow your brain has forgotten or just not cared enough when you saw it. There has been lots of discourse videos in and memes about Benson Boon jumpy. I know the name. I don’t know anything beyond the name. I have not seen a picture of him. I have not seen any of these videos. Well, I mean I I’ve seen my first picture of him. That’s so That is like I have missed every shred of Benson Boon outside of the text Benson Boon and like I’ve heard the name knows what’s up. They even know about his collab with Crumble Cookie. I know about that. Yeah, Crumble Cookie. Yeah. Moon Be Crumble Cookie. He was He became like the face of like uh this guy doesn’t have any talent, but people like him for some reason. Yeah. What do they so many people now? I think they they called it like uh American Idol like uh core or something. It’s like it’s that he seems like the type of guy that would be on American Idol derogatory. So does he have good songs? No. Well, his whole like brand is kind of he is not like he just is promoting a new album or coming out with an album or something or a music video and there’s a like part of the bit of it is him leaning into the fact that people say he can’t write songs and he can’t sing and so like he has become known for like just kind of screaming and not really and just doing back flips just singing very very high and sort of cosplaying Freddy Mercury. As Sean said, he seems to I don’t really care too much about this man, but I respect him in that he has a sense of humor. He doesn’t seem like Yeah. How Yeah. Like he seems like a cool guy. He seems like a cool guy. I don’t have like a any illwilled towards him. Uh but he just has become like it was like there was a a clip of him at the I’m assuming the Grammys was went viral because it was Heidi Clue and someone else ripped his tuxedo off. was like tear away and then he went on the stage and he back flipped off a piano while he’s performing his one song that everybody knows. Well, no, two songs. So, what I was going to say, I can’t believe Pete doesn’t know his songs. I only know two songs by him, but I was going to lead this in to say that the Blackhawks should they’re a young fun team. They should lean into Benson Boone in that relationship. And Chelsea Dagger had its run. You got to make Mystical Magical the goal song. Sean, you know that song? No. Oh, man. only know beautiful things. Uh chat, it’s it’s just you and me, friends. Mystical magical for a Blackhawks goal song. Yay or nay? It would go It would do sort of what Benson Boon does, which is like, yeah, everyone kind of hates me and thinks I suck, so this is what we’re doing. What do you got, Sean? He auditioned for season 19 of American Idol. Impressing judges Katy Perry, Luke Bryan, and Lionel Richie. Did Katy Perry break down? very hard to impress Katy Perry and Luke Bryan. Richie though. Yeah, I mean that’s why I left him out. I respect I respect the game. Uh Jonathan says Benson Boon is signed to Imagine Dragons record label is all you need to know. Yeah, it’s definitely in the Imagine Dragons world. like the like the clip of the clip of Steph Curry at the concert is the most like perfect depiction of both of them cuz it’s like him in a bad hat and it’s it’s just like yeah it’s it’s very mind-blowing to me that you don’t have any frame of reference for Benson Boone because like he definitely was like a I think for a weird second I thought that he was the guy I don’t know his name uh who like slid into Bobby Alto’s DMs or or the Hawkua girls DMs. I don’t know. It’s a kid. That’s a tough DM to slide into. A kid with the He has curly hair, wears like wife beaters a lot. Jack Harlo. No, I know him. He does slide into DMs notoriously. Uh I don’t know. I I for some reason I thought Benson Boon was that guy, but no, I’ve never seen a picture of him. I don’t take it. I don’t think that Pete is faking. No, I it is it is like but I’m confused byusion. It’s genuinely like very very surprising that you don’t have any cuz it’s not like you’re not a dumb person for not knowing cuz it’s not like he’s the [ __ ] president. You he’s not somebody that deserves I guess respectfully like extra attention. He would have texted me about Benson at some point. From the sounds of this, I’m surprised that he has such a strong internet presence based off of your how surprised you are that I have not come across him. Yeah, he’s like, but now everything on the internet is tailored to like what it thinks you want. Fair. So, like I don’t know if I’ve shown any interest in exploring who Benson Boon is. I certainly haven’t. But uh yeah, I just But you know about his crumble deal? I did know about But I’m a crumble guy, not a crumble. He found out on the crumble. I know. He’s the He’s the crumble guy. I found out the only reason I know that he had a uh a crumble cookie is because I check the crumble cookies crumble cookie flavors every week. Sean subscribed to the crumble cookie newsletter. I No, I just have that. I get alerts and I follow them on Instagram. So they put it on their story every Sunday. Well, we’ve similarly also by the way both Utah roots. He went to BYU and he dropped out. Ah, we’re hitting an hour and we’re through our topic. So, I think we can spend a couple of minutes on I don’t think I knew that you were a crumble cookie guy. And we had this conversation on the show before many times. Yeah. Don’t know how I feel about someone being a crumble cookie guy. That’s very Arizona of me. I’ll say that. It’s uh very much like being unhealth not unhealthily having like a particular interest in some kind of fast food type of thing is very Arizona did that to me but yeah we’ve had this conversation on the show. Yeah. Yeah. I did know this like we talked about the sales about Oh sponsorship type thing cuz I am a crumble guy. It is a good feeling when someone brings in a big old box of crumble cookies. Oh yeah. And you get you get the crumb the custom slicer that they they I don’t know about that. Oh yeah. They have a uh custom cookie cutter and it’s like a it’s like got a it’s like a pink it’s got a flat top and then like four little tines so it cuts it into four perfect sections. How many straight up crumble cookies could you eat? That’s my issue with they’re very heavy. They’re like that’s the thing like I if I get cookies I’m having at least two regardless of size and that could put me down. It is a dessert. It is not like cookies. Like I expected to be let down by crumble cookies the first time I had them. Like there was so much hype around it cuz there was one that went down the street uh from my house and everybody’s like, “Oh my god, this is going to be change your life.” I got them. I was like, “Yeah, this lives up to the hype.” And they’ve expanded into like other desserts. So sometimes they’ll have like little personal like personal cakes. Pies. Yeah. And pies. So like they had cheesecake. They had uh um uh tres lace cake one time. [ __ ] banged. They did banana pudding at one point where you just get a cup of pudding. They have ice cream. It’s It’s awesome. cookie to me is the Boston market of cookies in that Boston market folks don’t know or have never been. It’s chicken that is injected with so much salt and chicken flavor that you’re eating chicken that tastes so much like chicken, it freaks you out and it’s [ __ ] delicious. Market bang. That’s what crumble cookies are. Like a chocolate chip cookie from Crumble is like I’ve had chocolate chip cookies before. I’m staring this chocolate chip cookie right in the face and I feel like I’m getting [ __ ] murdered by chocolate chip cookies. It is very I would say Utah coded. Like it is very Mormon church. It’s closed on Sundays. Kind of got a swig vibe where you go in even though we I guess we didn’t go to a real brick and mortar swig, but it’s like a not a huge menu. You got six flavors. Choose one and get the [ __ ] out. We don’t have chairs here. You’re here just to get your thing real quick and get that true. When I went into the crumble, I felt very unwelcome. No, you’re not supposed to be get your cookie and get out. The workers were very nice, but I felt like it was very cold and I needed to get out. You don’t You’re not They’re there to make your cookies. I was going to say you’re not supposed to speak to them, right? They go to nine kiosks. Yeah. And you enter your cookie flavor and then they call your name. Yeah. I love crumble, though. It bangs. Shout out. I didn’t think you were when you said we have time. I thought you were going to get into the fact that the University of Texas Longhorns are not back. Um Oh, no. They’re not back. Um they’re not back. Lee Corso is not back. Rest in peace to Lee Corso. Uh the five We have to expose you. DJ all morning. Yeah. You’re also not allowed to say rest in peace to like a a very very old person. Yeah, those will be real sometime soon. There has to be an age cut off on saying rest in peace. Ironically true. It’s the old posting a black and white picture of someone being like, “This guy’s best movie came out 5 years ago.” And everyone’s like, “Thanks for making me think he was dead.” Uh, no. We were discussing before the show. the uh the prattling on about Lee Corso I thought uh could have been better served by just having Lee Corso be Lee Corso and let us spend more time with Lee Corso than every college football pregame show crying about Lee Corso for the entire hour. I just take just a alltime hater take and like I love Lee Corso. I don’t think as much Lee Corso as possible is the best way to service Lee Corso in 2021. Definitely. That part is definitely true. You can only have so much. I think it speaks to Lee Corso like and how important Lee Corso is that I had no problem with how much of a Lee Corso parade and love fest that Saturday was. There are very few people that I would tolerate that for in sports media. Lee Corso is absolutely one of them. He is like if if not like the most important college football media person ever, he’s on a very very very short list and he is so fun that like he absolutely deserved his day to be celebrated in exactly the way they celebrated. I’ll say get strippers then get I have to watch like 20 white guys who all look the same, sound the same talk about how Lee Corso is great. I [ __ ] know. I don’t need it from you. Show Lee Corso highlights. Do anything else. The show being about Lee Corso, even shows that didn’t have Lee Corso on it. That’s the thing. I thought that was the coolest part. Uh Fox uh big noon Saturday, just taking the ESPN feed as they honored Lee Corso at center field uh or center midfield was incredible. I thought it was such a cool move. Everything I watched that day sucked because then I had to watch Arch shortarm every throw because after one drive, Matt Patricia had him so sped up. And discourse about Arch Manning was stupid and annoying. It was like 30 people saying, “Oh, looks like Arch sucks.” And then 9 million people being like, “Everyone is saying Arch sucks, but here’s the thing. It’s his first start and blah blah.” Like, I don’t want to hear any of you guys. All of you [ __ ] off. It’s It’s tough because Arch did suck on Saturday. He was terrible. He was god awful. And I said this like there is if you can only look at one play from Saturday, the the third down throw that he had in the fourth quarter that was like five yards in front of him and he threw wasn’t even close to a wideopen target to get a first down. He completely butchered that throw. And there’s zero excuse. Like the worst quarterback in college football should make that throw and he [ __ ] it up. He had a horrible day. I’m not worried. He sped up. He was sped up. He was seeing ghosts. It happens. He was going up against an NFL defense. He was going up against a very good defensive coordinator that people don’t want to talk about. I don’t even know if I’m willing to like give that much credit to Ohio State. Oh, I do. I mean, their defense, their defense was great. But first, their defense was great. And that’s a horrible matchup for your first start in as uh as Arch Manning and all the hype that he has right now. Absolute nightmare matchup, but he made a million unforced errors. I think that’s what defense does though. Like if you’re getting pressured a lot early, you get rid of the ball quickly, you short arm throws, you’re just [ __ ] doing anything to get rid of it. It’s the seeing ghost thing. We’ve seen Arch before. We know he’s like physically talented. Like I think the things that you saw from March were not a not a product of him not being capable of making throws. It was I think more of a mental thing. I wasn’t super focused on that game because my Syracuse Orange were playing Tennessee and also kind of got their [ __ ] kicked. Um but I’m very happy college football is back. Tommy Cast Castellanos. Yes, dog. I’m so happy for him. Dog. I’m so happy for him. I mean he he talks so much [ __ ] Talk so much [ __ ] They don’t have Nick S to save him anymore. He said weeks ago before this started, back that [ __ ] up. Bill O’Brien fumbled that bag at Boston College. But uh yeah, him and Gus Melzan, that offense is going to be a problem. Is anybody worried about Texas? Oh, I’m worried about Texas. It sucks that they’re not going to be number one. I’m worried about Texas because they lost a game. Like it’s I I mean, it’s out of conference game. Yeah. And it’s against like Ohio State who’s probably going to be it’s a 12 team playoff now, so it’s not quite the same. But like I’m still a little bit of a mindset where like if you’re not undefeated, anything is possible, right? Plus they still have to play a full SEC schedule, right? But like if they win the SEC, they’re they’re totally fine. Yeah. I mean, I’m not I don’t Their season’s not over. All I know is I was clamor I was yearning for Sam. I didn’t think about Quinn Eurers once other than when I kept thinking welcome back Quinn Users when I was watching Arch Manning. But it shows how much Quinn was a disappointment that I was skipping right to Sam Alligator. Well, yeah. I mean, I I would say like if there’s a if there’s a thing that I worry about with Texas more than anything, it’s Sarkc because there’s so many uh things that carry over from their issues last year. Like just seemed like they were unprepared, undisiplined, and he cannot he cannot run a red zone offense. Yeah. It’s like I I blamed Quinners for a lot of that last year because he didn’t seem to have the arm strength that he needed in the red zone that he did in the first half of the year and there was no red zone offense uh on Saturday either. So, I’m worried about sad reality I think is that Texas might just be one of those programs. I think it doesn’t matter. Don’t you dare it matter. It doesn’t matter what’s wrong. Something’s wrong. They’ll be good. They won’t be great. Sure. I mean, they lost to the the the eventual national champions last year. They should have lost semiinal. They should have lost to the Arizona State Sundevils. They really played with fire there. They That was the one of the the the most blatant missed targeting calls I’ve ever seen in my entire life. Not good. Who did Who do the Bills have? Monday or Sunday football against Lamar Jackson and the Baltimore Ravens. It’s going to be a good one. Big big uh big week one. I’m a little a little worried about my Buffalo Bills. Why? You signed Gabe Davis. You’re fine. You have Joshua Palmer on the roster. Who’s Josh Allen? Like who’s his number one target? Khalil Shakir. It’s Khil. They don’t really have They don’t really have a number one target. Yeah, that’s kind of like the everybody eats has kind of become their whole. It could be. No, literally like it’s gen That’s why I don’t draft those receivers in fantasy football. I’ll draft their quarterback, which I did twice in both my leagues, but Oh, yeah. Um, it’s going to be interesting. I don’t know. I just signed Trey White. He’s hurt again. Christian Benford’s hurt again. Like our secondary is weak again. I feel like the AFC is wide open. I just I need the Patriots to play so I can my brain can start going stop going a little while. Then I’ll be like, ah, this is Are you worried about the I’m not worried about the Patriots. I’m just worried that that that uh gap could be a little closer than people want. And like it won’t be. Oh, well, I mean, I don’t know, man. The gap is definitely closing, but that’s because the Patriots were like the worst team ever last year, but like it’s also like the I know they haven’t won a Super Bowl, but by Bill’s standards, they’ve been really like everything has gone right, minus the the Kansas City Chiefs for like five, six years now. Doesn’t seem like that can go on forever. So there’s a there’s definitely the the the traumatized. No, I I I look at the Bills more as like the team that seems like it’s always a bridesmaid and someone’s going to count them out and then there’s going to be a year where nothing’s really happening for anyone and it’s like, oh yeah, they win. Yeah. I mean, I’d like it. I would like to see it, but um I don’t know. I think once we start playing and we start winning games, Chiefs are going to suck again and win the Super Bowl again. It’s so annoying. Can argue that. No. What’s that? Not again. this I I think the Chiefs might be dead. Uh in my in my fantasy football league in our draft, we made a bet this weekend. Uh who do you think ends up with more touchdowns this year? Uh Travis Kelce or Kyle Pitts? I have both of them on my fantasy team. By the way, I figure if you got two bad uh tight ends, you might have uh one okay tight tight end. Uh I think it’s going to be Kyle Pitts. I’m at a point with Kyle Pitts where I’m like everyone’s calling you out, baby. I know. It’s like he’s saying like we just said with the Bills, it’s like brother, whatever it is. It’s like the year when everybody has decided to give up on you. Is that your year? Not this guy. Uh, speaking of uh, Chief’s tight end, I was at a wedding last week and the maid of honor speech was wonderful, but towards the end of the speech, the maid of honor said, and I’d be remiss if I didn’t mention that these two are in love and getting married the same time as Taylor Swift just got engaged. And I said loud enough to be punched by my wonderful date, “Jesus Christ.” I mean, I don’t know what you get to do that. That was a deserved punch, but like I think I think spiritually you were in the right, but like you can’t do that. It was awesome. I mean, I agree that it was awesome. I’m I’m in your corner. I’m in your corner, but I would not I would have been silently in your corner. Exactly. Yes. 100%. Uh, what if I told you that last year Kyle Pittz did have more touchdowns than Travis? Travis wasn’t good last year. Three touchdowns. You want to know who who are is down across the board is NFL tight ends. They all kind of suck with the exception of Trey McD of Trey McBride. He’s the future of the position dog. Some people are saying that uh NFL tight ends started to decline the moment that Aaron Hernandez left the league. Yeah, you were saying that. Yeah, I was saying that Sean. Oh, no. I was I was I was letting you off the hook for once. I was going to say that Shawn was I mean, he was a part of arguably the greatest tight end tandem of all time. He could have been. And now we don’t have tight end tandemss anymore. Who’s Who’s running who’s going out there in in a 12 set running two like all set all-star tight ends? You act like the Patriots don’t have Austin Hooper. No, I do. I act like they have him. You always are acting like they have Austin Cooper, which means I don’t I don’t talk about it because no one cares. Who else is Who’s their other tight end? Uh the uh Chargers stud. Why can’t I think of his name? Hunter Henry. Oh, right. Yes. Hunter Henry is like Brock Bowers is a dog. That is That was Brock Bowers a Razer. And I’ll say the Bills might have Bills might have the best ten on tan. Sam Laora could be back by the way. We’ll see. I don’t Lions are another one. I don’t I don’t know what to do with the Lions. Um, do we feel bad for Bill Bich at all? No. He did this to himself. No, absolutely not. Yeah, absolutely. Should have been This was the most predictable outcome for all of this. I don’t I I feel bad that I don’t feel bad. Like I feel like he’s clearly being taken advantage of, but I feel like he’s made his decisions and I don’t know. I feel like we got to stop pretending that he is like a a child and like being taken advantage of. He being doing the Jordan thing, but was Jordan like, “Hey, Mike Lombardi, both of your sons. That’s who that’s how we can make this happen.” And also, if we’re talking about people taking advantage of other people, Bill Bich is like a 90-year-old man dating a 20ome year old, which like she’s also a grown adult and can make her own, but like I don’t think you get to you get to the to play the I’m getting taken advantage of card when you are dating somebody who was clearly only into you for your money. Uh I just I I feel I feel bad because like I owe I owe Bill Bich so much for like for my Patriots fan. you own Tom Brady and I was I thought it was awesome that they got absolutely [ __ ] destroyed. Like it was the most predictable outcome possible. The the humor behind that whole thing was just too good for me. I wish I could have been with uh our dear friend Jim Murray for that game because the best thing about because he’s he’s rooting for Bellich to fail. He probably because he he’s on Twitter and everything. He probably saw that first drive and then saw all the people be like Bellich is back. So, you know, like all those people are happy right now. They think something good is happening to them and then you get to see what was it how many drives without completing a pass. It was it was measured in time hour and a half of real time nonp production. Also uh while we were talking about Aaron Hernandez, did you see what the the non non city specific uh athletics baseball program did? No. They tweeted out pictures. They had like players wore football jerseys coming in to the football. Somebody wore an Aaron Hernandez jersey. Someone wore an 81 Patriots jersey and everyone in the comments was like, “Hey brother, what’s up with that?” And so they had to quote tweet it with they had to zoom in on the jersey. There’s a little tag on the bottom right that says Randy Moth 2001 or 2007. Um but they did have to clarify that hey, one of our players is not wearing the jersey of a How many murders he commit? Three allegedly. Uh well, one confirmed three allegedly, right? Did he ever get convicted of the two old ones? There was the double double murder and then there was Odin Lloyd. He got convicted of all of those. So he is confirmed triple murderer. Uh no actually he they got one of them got reversed. That is true. I because he was appealing he died while it was being appealed. So it was vacated and I believe as a result of that like maybe loved ones get access to his money. I don’t know if I still own it, but I did have a number 81 Patriots jersey. Pete’s gonna be able to guess who it was. It was not Randy Moss. It was not Aaron Hernandez. That was Pete’s. Uh, whose 81 Patriots jersey did I have? Uh, Bethl Johnson. Bethl Johnson is correct. I knew it. Just that’s hilarious. A [ __ ] who did not know how to play football. He was fast as [ __ ] Boy, was he fast. Shout out Bills and Texas legend Marcus Goodwin. Oh, okay. Did not know how to play football, but boy was he fast. He was an Olympian. Uh, speaking of guys who didn’t know how to play football, uh, happy trails to the great Jabril Peppers, who was released by the Patriots this week. Are you a Jil Jabil Peppers guy? Just he needs to be a Buffalo Bill. Oh, he became a good safety in the NFL. Yeah. and he he was I I love when teams draft the guy who doesn’t have a position. No one knows. We’ll figure that out. But it’s always the It’s like the Browns drafted him. The Browns were like, “You know what? If anybody can figure it out, we’ll figure it out. We’ll figure it out.” The Jaguars did it with um Matt Jones, the quarterback, who uh was actually a pretty good wide receiver for like a year. I think he was for a year and then maybe I think he uh I think he was I could be wrong but I I was I think there was maybe some Booger Sugar stuff. Oh, I don’t know. Who amongst us? We need more cocaine stories so we can talk about booger sugar. How about that? Sure. Let’s see. I’m doing a quick Matt Jones. Um do control FB substance abuse related arrests for Booger Sugar. Yes. Uh, replace the word cocaine with booger. Multiple arrests. Oh. Oh. And he violated the substance abuse policy of the league. So, yes. Yeah. Booger Sugar allegations. Yes. I believe. No. Uh, no. Josh Gordon. That makes me sad. Josh Gordon makes me so sad. He’s so good. That and that that is uh all time. Like people really don’t understand what’s going on here. Like the public didn’t understand what was going on with Josh Gordon. Guy just liked weed. It was no he was just like a really bad alcoholic but he had like a lot of like his f he had a lot of like really serious family issues that he was struggling with. So people were just like oh he can’t [ __ ] won’t stop smoking weed. It’s like no he was like his life was very difficult and he kept on like relapsing back into his his vices. It was histo sad and people I mean I remember him talking about like his college days and like he was he was like I think he was selling like a ton of drugs in college and he said that like he just needed to to help his family. Yeah. Like I I just I just I don’t know all the details. I just know that he has he had a lot going on in his personal life that were not good and people just thought he was like a bum who wouldn’t stop smoking weed. But it was a lot. We’ll wrap up in a second, I swear. But uh have we heard from Justin Blackman in It’s a name I haven’t thought of in a while. He he he like actually disappeared I believe. Uh I don’t think like literally right. Oh no. On April 2019, 2025, Blackman was arrested for public intoxication after being found passed out on the steps of uh the Edmund Laauo Library. He was determined to be heavily intoxicated but al and also unable to answer police questions before being arrested. Um not great. Yeah, man. Sad. A absolute monster at Oklahoma City. Yeah. Um everybody take care of yourself. I am seeing I’m seeing more and more folks not putting many pressure, but I’m seeing more folks tweet and post and do stuff saying that uh they’re quitting drinking. And folks, you want to jump on the sober train, it ain’t a bad place to be. If it works for you, not drinking, fashionable, get in on it. I did have wine in Italy, though. [ __ ] rocked. I’ve been drinking a lot recently. And I uh I look forward to that changing in the coming weeks as we really lock it in. But I I celebrated some the end of summer pretty hard. So So Oasis, oh yeah, how was it? It was incredible. It was so [ __ ] good. Uh somehow lived up to the hype, which I feel like that was the most hyped concert since like Coldplay 3 weeks ago. That is another one or not another one. Similar to like the uh I guess the Grateful Dead conversation we’ve had in the past. Don’t understand it. Don’t Oasis Grateful Dead obviously I knew about. They’re big, but like I don’t even couldn’t name you an Oasis song. I probably could, but I definitely I don’t know them as Oasis. Like maybe, but Oasis is a very good 90s band that was much bigger across the pond than it was here. And they are they are great. Like they really are great. They are not all time for me. But for people of my age and a few years older, that is like their Beatles. like just in 2025, middle-aged white dudes are just like, so that’s God right there. For me, I feel like I’m like a tier below a lot of people who were doing the Oasis thing this uh this summer, but like I I think Oasis has a few of like my favorite songs ever and like the best songs ever. Like they’re so they have Wonder Wall. Oh, okay. Yeah, I did know that. Yeah. Yeah. Champagne, Supernova, and Don’t Look Back in Anger. Like those big three and that’s what they closed out the show with. Like all of those songs are like S tier songs and then the rest of it I feel like they have a bunch of Alevel songs and then like the rest the rest of it I can kind of leave but there was there was over an hour of great songs for me and like I’m a level below some of these people. And then on top of that, like the lore of Oasis is incredible and the Gallaghers are [ __ ] insane. I’m going to send you a documentary to watch that. Liam Gallagher is right now watch it. I appreciate the thought, but Liam Gallagher is an electric frontman. I’m not going to sit down and watch a documentary on a band I don’t give a [ __ ] about. Wait, you said that Liam Gallagher is an electric frontman? Yeah, I I wasn’t there. He just stands with his hands behind his back. I know, but he’s such a [ __ ] [ __ ] Oh, like like not not in terms of like but at the show not in terms of like No, not really. Like he’s just saying he’s an electric personality, right? So So it’s these two brothers who are uh cu n t y extremely throughout the Do they have a Twitter presence? They do. Dan Gallagher’s on Twitter and they I feel like I’ve seen his tweets on Yeah. I just didn’t realize that’s who it was. And like people will tweet at them. the the David this he took the mantle from David Crosby. People will tweet like, “Hey, uh, which one is is it Liam or Noel that’s on there? On what? On Twitter. On Twitter, Liam.” People will be like, “Liam, what do you think of uh the Rolling Stones?” And he’ll just be like, “Shite.” They’ll be like, “Okay, cool. Have you heard Benson Boone gay?” like I don’t know if he’s homophobic, but he’s just like everything sucks. Everyone st one of them told a story. Uh he uh said that he was at he was at like a concert or something and a guy came up to him and was like, “Dude, I’m such a fan. You influenced my music. Like I’m a musician, too. You’re the best.” And he was like, “Oh, what’s the name of your band?” And he said, “Maroon 5.” And he was like, “How the [ __ ] did I influence you? God [ __ ] damn it. I don’t want to influence that, man. You guys [ __ ] suck.” And he said later in the night they were at a party and he comes out of the bathroom and that guy is standing there and he was like, “You’re still [ __ ] here, man.” And the guy said, “This is my house.” And he was at like the Maroon 5 bass player’s house and just [ __ ] all over him. I’m looking at his Twitter right now and I just went through his replies and his replies are all him responding to people responding to a tweet that he had felt the need to delete apparently. And sounds right. Uh it’s just like he’s just so committed to being an [ __ ] I have no choice but to respect it. Someone said, “Liam, you can’t say that.” And he said, “Why?” And someone else responded, “Cuz it’s racist.” And Liam responded, “Behave.” He responded like, “But I heard it in a song.” I just I love saying like someone someone saying that something is racist in your response being behave. Like not no it’s not or who cares. Just like you’re going to watch this [ __ ] documentary because I’ll tell you why. Like I said, they behave that way. But all it’s it’s just two brothers being [ __ ] fighting people on trains and like caring about Premier League football. It’s just what I mean. Yes. Like that. That’s what the band is. So he is like and fighting each other. Somebody in the chat said uh he is just British. Like he is the most British person of all time. All he cares about is uh is football and just being a dick and that’s it. Jonathan Nyoman says, “If you combine uh John Lennon, Paul McCartney, and Jesus in one person, that’s who Liam Gallagher thinks he is in his own mind.” And I’ll say, by that’s not true because like I think Jesus would consider himself like a nice guy. I don’t think that like Liam Gallagher has any interest in being a nice guy. Yeah, I would agree with that. Um but and their songs also are like very very simple. like they should not get off thinking that they’re much better than anyone else. Like they the audience should say, “We love you. We think you’re the best.” But as musicians, they should not be there. The the whole thing is very, very captivating. I strongly recommend and you’ll like some of their songs. Don’t Look Back in Anger is a classic. Don’t go away. Great song. Any song by them that starts with the word don’t, check it out. Also, Don’t by Ed Sheeran. I I had like a very active anti-W Wonder Wall campaign during college. Oh yeah, you were the guy that was sick of one. He was the guy that was sick of Wonder Wall. I mean Wonder Wall is like it obviously has become like a beast of its own, a thing of its own. It’s still like one of the best Wonderall and I this might not click for any Wonder Wall and um Mr. Bright Side of the same song to me. They fill the same space. They’re played in the same circumstances. Still, both of them are unbelievable. Yeah, I was going to say both bangers. Both unbelievable songs. What do you got to say about Mr. Bright Side? Sean, uh Sean just like Mr. Bright Side like Sean wants to be a little racist a little bit, but I’m not going to be. Uh Mr. Bright Side will have come back around on a lot more because it’s become a Bill song. Uh [ __ ] Sean. But otherwise, yeah, I don’t it’s got its audience and I don’t look like that audience. That’s I’ll leave it at that. So people with hair. Yes. Although I don’t know. I don’t feel like uh hair is necessarily a defining characteristic of middle-aged white men. There’s a lot of Yeah. I mean, these particular middle-aged white men, I guess, have very good hair, but Thank you. I don’t know if I want to be called middle-aged. Middleaged. Well, I’m lumping you in because you are were the one that went to Oasis, but I’ll say you are middle-aged in that if I would say if 30 to 60 is middle age. If you pass if you were to pass away at double your age, I don’t think people will be like, “What happened?” Well, no. I think you you I think when you hit 30, you enter middle-aged. Like the first 30 years of your life, you’re I see I would say 35. I would say well I’m just thinking like if your life expectancy around 90 first 30 years you break it up into 30 year segments. So 30 to 60 would be middle age. Oh uh Kirk Avery says do you know what I mean? That’s they say that at the end of every sentence and if I ever say do you know what I mean? I’m referencing them in it. Yeah. Uh I like Richard’s theory. Sean’s just jealous that Liam is stealing his title for number one hater. Yeah. Not number one hater on Twitter is and forever will be Kevin Durant. Oh, like No, but like Liam transcends being a hater any like on Twitter he’s just his existence is he’s a hater. And the cool thing about Liam is he’s not the talented one. Noel is. Well, they’re both the talented. So he’s right. No, but I’m saying like relatively like like Noel writes the songs. No sings their biggest song. He is the boss. Yeah. Uh, how would you put him in the like uh how would you compare him to Matty Healey? Like Matty Healey wants to be Liam Gallagher so bad. So I So he is creeping into Would you say he’s creeping into like this guy might just be a bad person territory. Who? I guess uh no Gallagher. I think that Matty Healey is probably like a goodish person who really wants to be I’m not saying they’re bad people. I’m saying they are approaching that territory. Maybe I feel like there’s there’s a good chance that like you could sit down and have a normal fun conversation with Mattie Healey and come away being like, I kind of like that guy. Matty is provocative. 0% chance that you could sit down and have a conversation with Liam Gallagher and come away with any other takeaway than being like, “That guy’s a [ __ ] piece of work. Holy shit.” Okay. Yeah. Matty Healey is provocative, which can be annoying. But Liam, I think, is trying to be an [ __ ] So, that’s the difference there. And just look up what those two have said about each other, and you’ll be entertained. Matty Healey has a famous rant about the the Gallagher brother, and he was right. He said he was basically like these guys were like the best band in the world and instead they choose to [ __ ] spend 16 years just like yelling at each other and playing because you’re a mod with your brother. Matt he strikes me as being uh smarter than the average person and he definitely knows it. Oh too smart for his own good. Yes. And then he pretends that he’s smarter than he is. Even though he unfortunately has said some of the more has had some of the wiser commentary I’ve seen of our time. Yeah, I’ve seen him talk about things. Very sad. just his thing on stage being like, “I know that everyone’s waiting for me to weigh in on the war because that is why you come to this concert to hear what this person, this [ __ ] idiot thinks about a war.” Yeah. Yeah. Uh I remember seeing something about him recently talking about how he refuses to do meet and greets cuz he thinks it’s like Oh, yeah. He says that if you’re going to do meet and greets, uh, make it cash only and make the people hand you the cashirect basically. Don’t hide behind ticket master. Yeah. Like just just own how how shameless it is and like greedy it is. I agree to a certain extent, but Yeah. All right. Now, uh, Sean, you have to do everything post show because Pete and I are going to watch videos of Matty Healey talking, which is what happens every time Matty Healey is brought up because that’s a fascinating boy. Uh, thank you everybody for watching this, for listening to it. Make sure you’re subscribed everywhere. We had a meeting yesterday about what we’re going to be doing for the regular season. It’s going to be so fun and everything leading up to it is going to be amazing. But we all agreed we feel pretty good about these summer episodes, which has just been [ __ ] around for 90 minutes and talking about hockey when we need to. And the chat has been very great and everybody has been very cool to us. Summer is uh not officially over but spiritually over in my mind. Pete is the unbudsman of seasons. No, I would I spiritually spiritual seasons. I I think uh summer’s over. I agree. I’ve I’ve softened my stance on the spiritual season thing cuz I I like went out of my house on Saturday after watching some college football during the day. I was like, “This is a fall.” It is. There’s a crisp. There is a crisp. There’s a crisp in the air. Football’s on TV. It matters. If summer’s over, hockey, we’re talking about hockey. We’re ramping up the show. Summer is over. That was definitely hockey we talked about. You are right. We are talking. We talked a good amount of hockey. We did. How did your uh how did your summer list come along? Your summer? I forgot about what was even on my list. Sounds like it didn’t come along very good then. Did you read? Because I remember that being one of yours. I did. So my goal was to read books. I didn’t read a single book, but I read over 400 pages of one book. And I feel like that’s got to count towards doing like reading a book. I’m going to finish this book. I’m very into it. I’m reading Lonesome Dove right now. It is very very good, but it is also extremely long and it’s been over 400 pages this summer. I feel like that should count. Yeah. Can we get a ruling? I would say that you’ve read you said I wanted to read. I read. Yeah. I can’t remember for the life of me what would have been on my list. Hate not read a book to completion. Never gave that up. Um I know that was on my list. I did play I I think maybe playing Red Dead Redemption was on my list. I did play RDR2. Saw a bunch of movies. That was another thing on my list. Saw Jaws on Thursday. Love that. And IMAX. Kind of rocked. I mean, mine was Blade. So, Travel. Uh, hit the cages. I think the only thing I didn’t do was hit the cages. You said hit the cages every day. Yeah. Every day. Yeah. That was the only thing I The only thing I didn’t do was hit the cages every day. So, I don’t know. There’s always next summer. Something to look forward to. All right, something to look forward to is another episode next week, but we’re always around. You know where to find us. We will talk to you later. Bye-bye. [Music] [Applause] [Music]

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