Reflections on Miami Heat legacy at Hall of Fame weekend | Five on the Floor

Reflections on Miami Heat legacy at Hall of Fame weekend | Five on the Floor

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All right, welcome back to Five on the Floor. Here’s today’s floor plan. I’m Ethan Skolnick. You can follow me at Ethan J Skolick on Five Sports. I got Greg Sander. You can follow me at Greg Sander. We just want to say one thing right off the top. I tweeted this, Greg, and this is kind of what I’ve been trying to get at recently, and I know I’m going to get the he’s carrying water thing again, but man, there’s crossover between Heat fans and Dolphin fans. I know there is. It’s not a total Zen diagram because the the audiences are a little bit different. Dolphin fans tend to skew a little bit older, a little more conservative. Heat fans tend to skew. Again, I’m not characterizing everybody, but tend to skew. Yeah, I’m I’m being careful here. I’m just I’m just saying. Okay. Well, and a lot of the reason is part of it is the nature of the sport, but part of it is also that the Heat have done more recent winnings. So, you see more Wade jerseys on kids than you see Dolphins jerseys, even though Dwayne’s been retired for several years. Shoot, you see more Jimmy jerseys, more Tyler Hero jerseys, and all the rest of that. If you just see kids walking around, you’re starting to see more Barkoff and and Marshant and uh and Kachchuck jerseys as well. But there is there’s a little bit of crossover, okay, between the two fan bases. And there’s a little bit of bias on both sides and all the rest of this. But man, Dolphin fans have every right, every right, every right to just be just beside themselves, right? No. Well, no. Angry and numb at the same time, right? Like it’s been 25. I mean, I was a young man when I covered their last playoff win. like I was 27 years old. Okay. I was I was I was you I had my life in front of me. My life’s behind me now. The Dolphins have my Dolphins the Dolphins have not won a playoff game since. I was literally there for Lamar Smith running. And technically the Millennium started in 2001, which means that the Dolphins have not won a playoff game in this entire millennium. They’re the only team in the NFL that has not won one. And yet when I go on Twitter, Heat fans are as frustrated and annoyed as Dolphin fans. And I I just can’t even process that. If you root for the same two team two teams at all, that there could be these constant complaints about an organization and a front office and all the rest of this that has won three championships and and been to seven NBA finals since six years after the Dolphins last won a playoff game. And like I just I don’t get it. And again, Greg, I just I’ll let you close on this. We’ll get into this weekend, which to me signified a lot of that, by the way. And that’s one of the reasons we want to touch on Hall of Fame weekend after it happened, but like to I it just spoiled is a word that applies like just right if you are and truthfully it even has applied to being a Hurricanes fan as well. Um but but more if we’re just going to stick in the professional sports hem uh hemisphere, it’s the Dolphins in the Heat. And it’s a constant reminder to Heat fans of how like cuz when I say numb, Ethan, like that’s it, it’s worse than being angry or being upset. Like when you get to the point where it’s like you’re already shifting your focus to your fantasy team instead of your local team that you want to root for, that’s a bad sign on week in week one. And so it’s just it’s always a reminder to me and I always have said at least we have the heat. It ob it does not necessarily mean that every year comes to fruition with a championship run or something like that. But as you read the resume earlier and obviously as we get to kind of hone in on the resumes of so many great Heat players, coaches, uh, executives, owners, all of that as we kind of looked at the Hall of Fame, it’s just a reminder that, uh, it’s been a damn good run. So, I mean, it’s perspective if nothing else. I don’t know that people want to hear perspective in 2025. They don’t. They they don’t and I understand that. But these are some of the same people that root for that other team. And I look I I came up as a Dolphins writer. I mean I the first team I covered I was 24 years old. They handed me the Dolphins beat at the Palm Beach Post. Okay. I I covered the Dolphins and then I switched to the Heat and then I was a columnist at the Suns Sentinel covering both. And then after like a decade of frustration on the Dolphins, I was at the big three welcome party. the not one, not two, not three party, the the one that Mickey Harrison referenced. We’ll talk about that. Uh, and I was standing there with people know George Sano and I are good friends. And I was standing there with George and he goes, “You need to [ __ ] cover this.” I was like, “Yeah, you’re right. What am I doing?” Like, I’m I’m covering Ryan. I don’t was it Ryan Tanahill at the time? A hell of a move, right? So, so I executed that week a move back to cover the Heat exclusively for the Palm Beach Post. And yeah, I was like, “Why would you leave the Sunset go to the Palm Beach Post?” The Central paper. like it’s LeBron and Dwayne and Chris Bosch and there’s that on the other side which is a franchise that can’t get out out of its own way. And so I think I made the right decision. But I it’s it is it just puts it all into perspective as we’re watching that. And it’s just like man they’re in like year six of a rebuild now. Like they tore the whole thing down for 2020 and now they’re going to let the same guy rebuild it again. And people complain about the Heat running back their front office and like the Dolphins have not done anything during this tenure. So, we could do a whole Dolphins Heat episode. I think McDaniel’s gonna get fired really soon. That’s just Well, I I said I said before the season like this was going one of two ways. either Tua played really well and was healthy and they somehow squeaked out about 10 wins or they were going to start 0 and3 and then Mike was going to get fired at at the buy and I don’t know that I agree with the firing necessarily but and perfect but anyway we don’t we don’t need to make this we don’t need to do I mean I I I like McDaniel but I I think I’m going to be wrong on that one. I just it just does seems like he’s lost the he’s lost the plot. Um and teams have figured him out and and it’s unfortunate but it’s yeah I mean it just again it puts it into some kind of perspective on sort of what the Heat have accomplished and this weekend put it into perspective too and that’s kind of where we wanted to go with this because this was another Miami Heat weekend. A lot of these Hall of Fame weekends turn into that in some way. It wasn’t just them. Of course, Carmemelllo was honored and Dwight Howard was honored. But even in the Carmelo and Dwight Howard stuff, there was heat ties. Dwight Howard like credited Stan Van Gundy, you know, who of course he had to mock with a imp impersonation, but he credited him for helping him get to the Hall of Fame. He made a lot of too and and Alonzo and Alonzo as well. And and in in the Stan case, remember, of course, Stan got his shot with the Heat. And I first as an assistant, as Pat’s lead assistant, and then as as a head coach, and we know it didn’t last that long. There’s a lot of reasons, and Matteo Mayorg has been covering that in the 2006 series that we’re doing. He’s doing an excellent job with that. Check out the episode he did with Tim Reynolds. It’s great. But they like, you know, so he credits Stan. That’s a heat product to a large degree. I mean, Stan came up through the heat heat. Uh and then you look at Carmelo. Well, okay. Carmemelllo was honored twice. He he got two jackets. He got one obviously for his days with the Knicks and all that, which by the way, the reason that Carmemella didn’t get any further with the Knicks was the Big Three Heat. They eliminate they eliminated them. Um, and that was a team that they couldn’t get past. And also, Carmemella was honored with the Redeem team. So, he’s on stage there with Dwayne, okay, who was a big part of this weekend again. And of course, LeBron’s there. Of course, LeBron joined the Heat after the Redeemed team, but there’s the connection to that as well. And then of course, as we talked about beforehand, Mickey Harrison got honored. And so then you’ve got Shaq in the audience and you know, and Mickey making a joke about Shaq and all that. And it’s just like the whole place is populated. There now 12 people with ties to the Heat that are in the Hall of Fame. And by the way, Eric Spoler is going to be someday. Okay, so add that one to the list. Uh I don’t know. We conversations. Bam’s going to have to win a championship. Okay. And and elevate and win a defensive player of the year, I think, to be in any of those conversations. But heck, Jimmy might be um at some point. He’s borderline, I think. Although, if you look at basketball reference, he actually has enough to get in based on previous metrics. And if he gets in, unless it’s with a title with Golden State, the stuff they’re going to be showing on the videos are the two ch title I mean finals runs with the Heat. So, it just to me it just put it all into perspective like how much the organization has actually accomplished as Heat fans are acting like they’re Dolphin fans. Yeah. And the redeem team is something that when we talked about this earlier in the weekend, uh I felt like we didn’t give it enough shine. And I actually tweeted the fact that we should remember that the Heat were the only team that could, you know, basically claim that they had three of these guys. And some people came back and corrected me and said, “Well, the Lakers later on had, you know, I think maybe there was five of them together at one time.” But that’s not the point here. The point is that the Heat had three of these guys in their prime join up. And this was kind of the the precursor to what was the rockar era of the big three in Miami. They had the Heat index on ESPN. We will never see that again. Like, it just was different. And uh also the fact that all of those guys have such a um they hold that team and that experience in such high regard because of Kobe and everything that was associated with him. It just um it makes it a really cool story that Heat fans got to experience that in advance of what was going to be an epic run. And obviously, you couldn’t have necessarily predicted it was going to happen the way that it did, but now in retrospect, it makes it a super cool journey to to go back and look at. And the fact that they featured it all weekend was a perfect opportunity um to kind of see uh what were kind of laying the groundwork for the big three. Well, it was. And I I want to start here by saying it was great to see Chris Bosch there. I know he hasn’t been out in public as much over the past year. He didn’t come to a couple of ceremonies we expected him to be at. Um I am I’ll just go I’m I’m very transparent about he he was my favorite uh to cover uh during the big three era and I and again I you know developed working relationships with other guys. I was at Dwayne’s first summer league game and all that. But Chris, I I think everybody who covered those teams, um, and by the way, big three teams, the whole team, Big Three and the Little 12, uh, which I think Rio coined that one or Rio with UD was my favorite teams to cover, not just because they were the biggest team in the world for those four years, and they were, and they changed everything, but also the absolute smartest team. You so many bright guys in that room that got overlooked so often. I remember writing a long piece about that for Bleacher Report. But before games, you’d have you’d have Ray Allen and James Jones and Chris Bosch and and all these guys like sharing finance books before they were just a different group and they got painted as these villains when they were actually these really high IQ uh people and and good people actually. uh my favorite teams to cover and and most of my really positive relationships from covering heat teams that came from those teams. But Bosch, I think, was most people’s favorite who covered the team because he was always accessible. Uh he was always self-deprecating. He was always the last guy in the locker room to talk and he’d stay and talk to anybody. And I always joke that you always came home smelling like Chris Bosch because he would spray his cologne out in front of him and sort of wafted around in it and so it got out everybody but he’d be there for 30 minutes. Um, and he could talk to you about anything and you know none of us wanted to see what he went through and also the way it kind of put him at odds with the organization when they were just trying to protect him honestly. And I it’s it’s good to see him back with heat people. I I just that was really and to see him with Dwayne, the relationship that developed particularly after LeBron left when the two of them became very close. Um I remember uh I I remember uh Gab Gabriel Union telling me that like Dwayne never went to nice restaurants until Bosch introduced him to all of them. Like him and him and LeBron would go to Cheesecake Factory on the road, right? But like Bosch, he was like the wine. Dwayne really he really cultured Dwayne in a lot of ways as people around and so just to see the two of them together um to see the reaction on social media from Dragitch towards Bosch and saying I wish we’d had more time together I seeing Chris there was kind with the redeemed team is kind of my my favorite part of the whole thing but it’s also it’s just the respect that those guys uh garnered and then on the other side of this and we’re going to talk a little bit about the redeem team but I just want to say something about Harrison’s speech which again put into perspective how many stars they’ve had. I It’s just It re It really is. It’s It’s them and the Lakers. Like, as far as if you look at guys who top I mean, you’re talking about LeBron is a top three player of all time. I think most people believe that. Shaq is a top five center of all time, right? Um Dwayne is a top three two guard of all time. Bosch is a Hall of Famer as we know. They got Ray and Gary Payeyton towards the end, but they both uh obviously made major contributions to championships, huge moments. Um and and so you just look at all that and then you say, okay, and Pat’s in obviously and now Mickey’s in. Spo’s going to be in it. It’s it is it’s something. I mean, and now it’s the okay, who’s going to be the next, right? Who are they going to get that guy that’s going to be the next one that represents him that way? But I I thought I thought uh Eris’s speech kind of that to me that’s what that represented was just how many people he could kind of touch on. And I didn’t even mention Zo. I mean who’s who’s in and is was kind of it set the template for them. How funny was it that he said uh not one, not two. Well, I guess it was just two. That was that was a fun point. Um cuz I know that that obviously was a lightning rod for them becoming villains as a team. And it’s funny that you say that because they none of them really wanted to be the villains. I think the only one that really got um better when they got punched in the mouth was Dwayne probably of those guys. Yes. But the one thing um as we shift gears to the redeem team and I know we’ll do more on the other side is that I just want to remind everyone that I think like the idea of these superstars being able to actually coexist and play roles and figure that out and win was that all was uh the birth of that was on the redeem team. So, I just think that there’s such a uh inherent connection to the big three and what happened in Miami that it they are forever linked um in terms of uh you know just the way that basketball history turned out. One story and then we’ll get to the redeem team on the other side. You mentioned about Dwayne was the one that reacted the best to that stuff. And it was funny because LeBron and Bosch both resented the fact that everybody loved Dwayne. And I I remember I remember when we were up in Toronto and Bosch was doing the thing after the game where he was like calling for the crowd to bring it on. It was just so funny watching it from Chris, right? It was just it was amusing. LeBron LeBron never was comfortable with any of that. Never. I many conversations with him and I think that’s what wore on him that year. I think that’s what led to what happened in Dallas. I just it just he was not used to being the villain. Kobe could do it. LeBron wanted to be liked. Okay. Is totally different situation. But Chris to see him egg on the crowd. And then I remember they held the press conference. They they used to do the press conferences together. And that day I don’t know if it was all three. I don’t think Dwayne was there, but it was it was LeBron and Bosch. And they did it in the media dining room in Toronto in the Ro what Rogers Center. Whatever they call that’s the baseball stadium, whatever they call the arena in Toronto. And I just remember LeBron and Bosch like answer questions. Like, well, everybody loves Dwayne. Dwayne never gets any garbage from anybody. But it it was funny because Dwayne was the one who did feed off that the most. Dwayne was the one if you if you punched him in the mouth like or whatever happened to Gonari, like he got you didn’t want to do you don’t want to make Dwayne bleed his own blood. Yeah, LeBron and Bosch were a little different that way, but yet Dwayne always got off scot-free with any of that stuff. Uh and again some of the stories that have been told are not really right about how the whole thing came together but it you know obviously the the concept of them playing together sort of started with the redeem team. So we’ll talk about that on the other side. Uh before we do want to tell you about a great sponsor of the five reason sports network the weekend is over but after that Dolphin game. Okay I understand you might need a drink. 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Uh so you’re going to get more Heat content than you know what to do with and we’re populating it with exclusively five reason sports and five on the floor people. So you’re going to get that. Now, I’m also going to be managing the Orlando Magic site. I apologize, but uh there’ll be plenty of great content there as well. But uh the Miami Heat site, the Sports Illustrated site, you’re going to want to check that out cuz uh it’s going to be in the same style as we do things here. Let’s get to the redeemed team, Greg. Obviously, nothing is going to compare to the dream team in terms of this the social significance of that team, everything that went into that. Of course, a lot of that was covered in Last Dance and everything else. And there’s been other documentaries about it. You had Bird, you know, with a bad back, but I mean, you had the greatest, you know, collection of players that you could have. And of course, no Isaiah Thomas, which was the big thing at the time. Um, the redeem team was different, but see what jumped out to me is I’m I’m watching them all go on stage and I understand the tributes to Kobe and LeBron saying, you know, this all came together because of him because Kobe said, “I was sick of you all losing and he came out and LeBron saying we knew we needed to be on point because Kobe was going to be there.” But the reality of that team is that the most impactful player on that team was the guy who was coming off the bench and that was Dwayne, right? Gold medal game, right? That is one of my favorite games ever honestly that I’ve in in all the games that I’ve watched and Dwayne was the best player in that game. So like that that to me is something that you just have to remember. Kobe was a big part of things but but Dwayne definitely um in that gold medal game was it was a performance for the ages. think it was 29 points and truthfully I’m not looking at box scores or anything like that but it it was um apparent that he was going to be coming back his best self and um and yeah I I think that as much as it becomes a conversation about LeBron and Kobe being the best players on that team um Carmelo also I think a lot of when we look at him um from a Hall of Fame perspective we have to take into account how effective he was on the net on uh international stage versus just his pro career. Um but Dwayne in on this one team was uh the difference maker I think ultimately and I think that that’s just huge for the Heat again. Uh, and it all I I guess something that dawns on me as we as we talk through all of this is that it does make for pretty lofty expectations and shoes to fill for guys like Tyler Herro and Bam Adabio and who and Jimmy Butler when he was here who ultimately didn’t get it done. Like it really does show you that when you come to Miami and you make it about like you’re going to lead that franchise on the court, you’re kind of expected to get it done now. And I think that that’s a pretty cool precedent that’s been set. I know that nobody wants to hear that if you’re middling as a 500 team, but that is the expectation and the only way you get there is by winning the way that they have. Well, a couple thoughts on that. First, Dwayne is still still the only uh player to lead a team to a championship on a rookie contract. And um cuz right, because Shay had signed his extension, I believe, right? So, right. Should have had him in front of Durk when we did our Well, I know people are giving me a hard time about that. I get it. Uh, I I get it. Sometimes I go overboard not to sound biased. I told you my anti- LeBron MVP votes and defensive player of the year votes and other votes just to I wouldn’t look like Homer. Shocked by all that. I don’t I I whenever he says I carry water, but then when push comes to shove, I just get water splashed in my face. Look, as far as Dwayne goes, um, a couple things come to mind. First thing, yes, on the biggest stage, he played at that level. Remember at that time nobody really knew he was going to get to that level again because you know he it’s the 0607 season there was a shoulder injury there was shut down in 0708 and he comes back and he really was his best self for those two years um prior to the big three and to a certain degree it was wasted uh on a roster that was not to his anywhere near his level and then you know he said in Boston that day I need help uh and of course they got him help but he was out the door when they were getting him help and uh you know as he has since acknowledged like everybody’s like oh Dwayne pulled LeBron and Chris in. No actually LeBron pulled Dwayne back in. Dwayne was headed to Chicago and and Bosch uh was not a sure thing in any way even though Henry Thomas was the agent for both Bosch and and Dwayne. But he did come back and obviously he was great in 1011 uh for most of that season. and him and LeBron were pretty much even in terms of the way they played that first year. And then we know that Dwayne outplayed him in the finals by a lot. Uh and if if it had been a little closer, then Dwayne probably would have won the MVP and they would have won another championship. Then Dwayne would have two finals MVPs. This whole thing would look different. I I just think again um it puts into perspective the company that Dwayne has kept and that Dwayne had that finals Ethan and then you know what he decided to do? He said, “Let me sacrifice and tell LeBron, who just on the biggest stage had one of the worst meltdowns, no, you take over. This has to be your team.” Like the the I guess the overarching message that we all should remember is the way that those guys all sacrificed in different ways. And um sacrifice is a relative term in sports. This is the toy department of human affairs. I realize that. But that team really did do that. and you don’t see a lot of groups necessarily do that type of sacrificing uh in any sport on a regular basis. So, it’s just cool to acknowledge. And Dwayne had tried to do it during the season that that meeting that they had that we all waited outside the locker room for 50 minutes on a deadline. Thanks, guys. in Dallas uh where when they were nine and eight and that was bumpgate night where Spo acted like he didn’t realize I remember Mike Wallace and I were the only people standing in front of Spo after the game and Mike Wallace asked him about it and Spo acted like he didn’t know that LeBron had bumped him. It was pretty clear that there was something to that and then they spent like 50 minutes in the locker room but the guy who stood up at that meeting in the locker room was Dwayne and a lot of it was that other you know other they needed others need to take an ownership of that team and he consistently did that and and that’s why again when you talk about establishing the culture and all of that and what it means and you know what it embodies to someone like UD and what it embodies to someone like Zo Well, it embodied that to Dwayne, too. And I and I and I think again when you put when you put him on a stage with LeBron and Melo and these and he belongs there. He belongs there. And it just shows you again what he accomplished and and what the organization has accomplished. Look, everybody’s like, “Well, Dwayne brought them everything.” Well, they had to draft Dwayne. Like, they had to I mean, yes, they could have drafted Chris Cayman and I know Pat has disputed all the stories about that and all the rest. And they would have drafted Bosch, by the way, if they had the fourth pick, which they should have had if they just tanked the last game in Toronto in the 2002 2003 season. But they picked fifth and they picked a guy who was projected to go ninth. All of the all of the pre-draft mocks had him going to Chicago at nine. All of them. Okay, Chicago ended up taking Hinrich, but Dwayne, they had to take the guy. Okay, he were going to take Hinrich to put next to Eddie Jones. Look at me. Imagine that. Okay. And and by the way, okay, and I love him to death and he was a mentor to me, but I’ll mention this till the end of time. My guy Leitard, okay, or our guy Leard wrote a column on that night for the Miami Herald saying, “Why’d you take Dwayne Wade when you have Eddie Jones?” I wrote a column saying was a great draft pick. It’s the only one of the few things I’ve been right about. Um, but look, they they have managed to bring stars in one way or the other. They’ve not in a few years. I understand to cycle back to the beginning of this conversation. I understand why Heat fans have gotten spoiled by that and gotten frustrated by that and I get it. Okay. And just heisting Norm Powell is a very good player is not going to be enough to satisfy all of them. They want to see the next Luca type. Okay. Or the Giannis type in Miami. It’s hard as hell to find those guy. Not find them, but get those guys now. I understand all of that. But let’s just take a second and we tried to do that a little this weekend with the Riley 30-year thing and with Harrison going in all this like there was a lot of heat at the Hall of Fame, okay? And I’ll tell you what, there ain’t a lot of Dolphins at the Hall of Fame lately, okay? There’s Jason and there’s Zach, okay? And there’s about 15 years you want to forget. And there ain’t nobody from this team is going to the Hall of Fame, at least not because of what they’ve done as a Dolphin. So things could be worse, guys. Just all all you got to do is uh is is head to Miami Gardens these days. All right, Greg. Appreciate it. Thanks uh for popping in here on a Sunday night and check out Ziotics. Use the code uh on the floor especially, you know, as you’re trying to suffering through uh that heat game uh the Dolphins game next weekend uh prior to it. Also, prize picks, use the code FIV. Have a good one, everybody. Thank you for listening to the five on the floor on the five reason sports network. After all, someone needs to listen to my dad.

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