How Would You Rank The Players Currently On The Dallas Stars Roster? | DLLS Stars Podcast

How Would You Rank The Players Currently On The Dallas Stars Roster? | DLLS Stars Podcast

Doc sharing, Slack messages, text groups. We are about to start. And they literally go, “So, what are we talking about today? What are my ad reads? We’re going to figure it out.” DLS Stars podcast starts today, right now. [Music] [Music] It is Friday. Thank goodness. It’s September the 12th. This is the DLS Stars podcast alongside Sean Shapiro. Wait, he’s here. That’s right. We actually told you guys this yesterday in studio. Sean Shapiro, Sam Nestler, and uh before we get into all this craziness, let me point out something here. The Stars podcast has had a guest on remotely every single show for 31 in a row. You go all the way back to July 30th, I believe, was the Washington Capitals other 31. We had John Walton on their radio playbyplay guy. Since then, every single day we’ve had a show, couple holidays in there, we’ve had at least one guest, if not two, and we’ve done a bunch of other 31s, a lot of them. I think we’re 27 out of 31 in. Maybe 28. Um, and no, 27. 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So check that out. it is available since we have Sean here and there may not be anybody else on the planet who is more prepared to talk about this prospect weekend Dallas Stars prospects versus the Detroit Red Wings prospects. I don’t know if any like there may be somebody who knows the Stars prospects better than you. Yes, maybe there may be somebody that knows the Red Wings more detail but I don’t think there’s anybody that has both of them to the depth that you have. So tell us what you’re expecting, Sean, of these two games tomorrow and Sunday in Fris. Yeah, it’s I want to make sure you got all the names. Oh, and we actually have them if you want to call up either Ryan has the roster, so just give them a shout out for whichever team you want to see. There’s the Stars forwards. Yep. There’s the Yeah. Stars forwards. The got the Oh, I b Let me give me my quick spiel first. Yeah. So, for me, this is one of my favorite events of the hockey season. It’s been always in my mind like the unofficial kickoff to the hockey season for me going back to um for almost uh almost a decade now. Um when I was when I was still living down here, I would fly up to Traverse City to watch this tournament. It was an eight team tournament at the time. Um and you would see I remember watching Dylan Larkin in this tournament in 2015 during the 2015 camp. I remember watching Miro Hishkin in this tournament in Traverse City. And so it’s it’s a really good ch opportunity to see players against their peer group because they’re going to go into camp next week and let’s use like a Cameron Schmidt who the stars drafted this year really elite goal scorer at the WHL level. Great skater, great shot. He is it fair to judge him in NHL training camp against a Miko Rantin or a at this point a 19, right? like that is the if he stood out, it would be pretty remarkable. It gives us more of a um a reality of where these players are. The games are fun because everyone’s going it’s a lot of players who are out to prove something and it’s it’s a good measuring stick. And so for me this weekend, the Stars don’t have the most high profile roster because their prospect pool has been decimated by how good they’ve been. And that’s that’s that’s a good problem to have, right? like when you’re making trades and trading away first round picks and and graduating players, it’s okay to not have a great prospect pool as long as you’re winning. Um, against and so like Schmidt and Heming are the two big ones from a Stars perspective of like, hey, potential key impact NHL. Hey Ryan, would you pop up the Stars defense and goenders because we talked about this the other day when this roster came out, Sean? Yeah. I’m interested in a couple of names. Yeah. Uh, and tell me if there’s ones that you are. Tristan Bertuchi because he’s a decently high draft pick, but also Trey Taylor came in and played well with the Texas Stars. And then I I guess just another chance to see Arno Yeah. in goal. Beruchi, Taylor, um even a um a Mahan like the those are guys where Nopeka Moan and I want to be like this is meant to be this is not Sam this is going to be taken as a slight I want to be clear it’s not this group of D this is where you’re hoping to find your future five and six guys so from this group that you’re seeing on this screen right now if you can find your future five and six you’re not looking for a top four defenseman out of like and like yeah if any of these guys become that that’s great they would be completely surpassed their expectations but and this isn’t a slight but this is where kind of the path forward for these guys is does a Trey Taylor does a Bertuchi eventually become because the stars are going to need that reliable third pair sometimes second pair of guy in case of injury things like that because of how things are structured so that’s what you look for on this defense and then uh defense I believe Germans will need to tell me now to better pronounce that I didn’t I actually just called him Arnold cuz I’m not sure yet. And and he is a fascinating long-term project. I’ve talked to a bunch of goalie people who he’s a little bit of a mystery box where they a lot of teams a lot of goalie people I spoke to liked the bet the Stars took on him because they don’t really know where he’s going to go and with all that. So, he’s I’m interested to watch him. I’m assuming he’ll get one game, Ben Cross will get the other. Now, the thing that I’m really looking forward to from a Stars perspective is on the other side, Detroit is bringing a loaded prospect lineup. Go ahead and pop that up. Pop that up there, Ryan. So, the the wings the wings lineup they’re bringing between Michael Bransard, Nate Danielson, Axel Santine, Pelica, Shai Buham, um they are I think they have for when we did elite prospects top 100 uh the top 100 prospects across all of the NHL. I believe four of the uh because I don’t think Bear is on this Oh, Carter Bear is on this roster. for five of the top 100 prospects across all of hockey. Not just Red Wings prospect no for the Red Wings. This Red Wings prospect roster is five of the top affiliated prospects for all of hockey that um that we did for over elite prospects. Um indicative of where their organization is right now. Yes. And that’s and and then you also have a big um the guy who’s probably going to look the best is going to be Jacub uh Jakublowski who played he’s 24 25 I believe was a goal per game guy in the Czech league this year. He’s going to have very much like that R2 huru energy last year in Dallas guy who comes over who’s a little older little bit older guy coming over. So I’m it’s there’s a big kind of challenge and expectation for this these Detroit players and I Danielson is supposed to be a future top six center in Detroit. Branson Negard is a huge building block for them. Axel Sand Pelica there’s people in Detroit who have been asking for him to be on the Red Wings power play tomorrow. So maybe a little premature maybe a little premature indefinitely premature. I’m just saying that’s kind of the hype around this kid from a Stars team. You look at this. there’s a big opportunity to go head-to-head with the these type of players, some older players on the other team and make a little bit of a case of look, you don’t need, it’s not all about profile. It’s about what you do when you’re on the ice. And that’s to me is the most intriguing thing from a Stars prospect spot. And that would be I talked to Toby Peterson a little bit this morning over at the rink and that’s something that I know he’s going to use that when talking to the guys of look, this is where people either not win jobs. You don’t win jobs in prospect tournaments, but you are able to take the next step. You’re able to catch on catch someone’s radar. You’re able to do that. And and we’re going to go back to the Matias Yenmark example because it’s the most standout in the Stars that I can remember. Yeah. I mean, but then also like there was uh Ben Gleason was never going to be a member of the Stars organization. Um the most pressing one for me that turned a nothing nothing into a career is Mike McKenna. Mike, now that wasn’t with Dallas, but Mike McKenna was invited to a prospect tournament with Nashville actually when it was in Traverse City. when it had a 45 45 save game um in one showing like the one like because they played four games that played the third game and that’s the only reason Mike got a pro career and so or an NHL career at least and then so like the Yanmark example in Dallas is obviously the biggest one where well because he wasn’t even going to come to the NHL training camp and he probably and he probably would have never come to the NHL if not for this because if we go to the osteo osteioacus dicus dissicens I the knee injury. Oh, you’re talking about osteocranditis disact for me to say. If he’s diagnosed with that in Sweden, Sam, go ahead and take a shot. I’m looking at lines. If he’s diagnosed with that in Sweden, he never comes to the NHL. But he had been in the NHL, he’d been able to play a year here. He’d been able to do that. It’s it’s a big opportunity. And I just hope if you’re watching this and listening to this, and I know Luds is bored right now, and that’s fine. Um the where I hope people go out and watch it because it’s a it’s good hockey. Yeah. We talked about this when the rosters came out. So, it’s why I’ve focused on Sean for this segment because this is his chance to use his expertise to talk about it. But, Luds, I do have a question about it before we get to our ad break. Snapbacks, truckers. No, not yet. Not yet. Not yet. Play. I have a question. No, we got two minutes. It’s not fair to compare the players on your U8 roster to the players that are drafted some playing professional in this prospect. How many levels because the team that you’re coaching, those players are good players that have worked their way up through the youth ranks. How far from where they are to where these prospects are are right now? I’m watching them right now. And don’t give them too much credit. Are they playing right now? Uh yeah, our team is playing uh team from Colorado, the Thunderbirds. So, uh no, they’re light years away. You know, I mean, realistically, they they’ve got a long way to go. Um but like like I’ve always said, it’s a process with these kids and you know, you get them from certain levels and you you wish they knew some of the things that we wouldn’t have to go over, but that’s just not the case. So you feel like you ultimately sometimes you feel like you you end up being a month behind, you know, the rest of what we’re doing and then catch up. And I always tell our guys the good thing about where we are in Dallas is that we’re getting we don’t have to go through a state championship. So we’re going to probably be at regionals. More than likely we’re at regionals. So, and then you just have to win regionals in order to get to the big stage being nationals. So, what it is for us is we’ve got 50, 55, 60 games throughout the course of the year to continue to get better until we get to regionals. And I guess the only time you’re really guaranteed is like last year because regionals were in Dallas, you know, so we had the luxury of knowing that we were going to be there. This year is a little different. you got to get there. But, you know, there’s there’s only one other team probably in our, you know, that we would have to get past in order to be one of the the four there. So, you you take that and where where I probably wanted to split about four or five sticks last week. Um, you just you seriously you you just chill and go, listen, it’s a process. We have time. We can work our way through it. And even what I’m watching right now, you know, I’m I’ve got before we came on, they, you know, they started at around 12:15 and so I mean, I’ve got four pages of notes and and things like that are way too much. But, you know, then you kind of whittle it down to here’s the most important thing. So, again, it’s a process, but they’re they’re nowhere near where the kids at, you know, that Sean’s talking about, but that’s where they want to get to, and that’s what we’re trying to do is help them get. Well, it gives you something to strive for, for Sure. And I know we’re going to Ed real quick. Leds, just quick no. Yes. No. Did you ever coach JP Herbbo? No, he No, he took off. Yeah. No, did not. Okay. I was just curious because he was someone who I watched him. Yeah. Dallas kid who was playing for the Cam Loops Blazers was part of the U7 team for NTDP last year. I was just because Anyhoo, go ahead. All right. Up next, let’s rank the stars literally. Well, here it is. 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We ranked one through 23 with one being the best, 23 being the least of the Stars current players on their roster. One of the interesting caveats is is that there’s really probably only 22 known players on the roster at the moment. Yeah. And there’s an open spot. Whether or not the Stars will keep 23, we don’t know. So Ryan, whoever you want to throw up first, we have our rankings here of the current Stars roster. So Oh, look. We’re starting with Sam. Going with the tallest member first. The best. So Sam, walk us through this lineup. Uh, and Ryan’s got to move our screen over just a little bit because you’re one through uh whatever it is is blocked on our Everybody else can see it. We’re doing just fine. But walk us through how do you want to do this? Thoughts about why you did who you did. Let’s start at the top. Yeah. Why Mirro Hkin? Uh I believe the criteria was the best player at this time. Not necessarily most important to his role or anything like that. So in terms of their best player, I believe Miro Hkin is their best overall player. Um I mean if you need any proof, look what happened when he got injured last year. the team took a massive massive step backwards and pretty much waited in tread water until he was able to return. Um so I think Miro Hasten the the only reason it’s closer now is because they went out and got Miko Raten. Anywhere any other year Miro Hkin is one and the rest of the team is starting at four I think. So uh Miko Ratnon and Miro Hastin I believe are far and above the best players skill-wise talent everything importance to the team. I really would have probably put them in there for every every category. So Sean picked Miro as number one. I did as well. Luds did not. So Luds, why did you put Jake Aer as your number one player, best Dallas star right now? Well, you know, part of it probably for me I I think he has to be number one. I I think he’s the one and the most important player on I mean, again, how many times do you look at people that bail you out of games and it’s generally a goalender? And so I think that I I I just want the goalender to be the best player on the team. And it’s not about money and things like that. And so I I and you know what and probably a lot of this has to do with the fortune that I had having, you know, one of those guys and Patrick Wah and Eddie Belffor. And it was just always we always felt comfortable and the pressure I felt wasn’t always on the superstar players to have to do certain things all the time because they always knew that one of those guys was going to somehow if you had an off night and you weren’t able to score goals and you could only you know again very rarely when you have four or five of those kind of players in not including the goalender do three of them four of them have an off night. But there are times that that happens and and they the pressure doesn’t seem to be as big for them, which it always is because they’re the best and they’re highest paid, but they know that that I still have time in the course of the game to make something happen because our goalenders kept me in the game. So that again, I understand everybody going with, you know, the the guys that make the most money and all that other kind of stuff. I I just and and again I I think Mirro I got Mural like number two or three or something like that. So he’s just as important. You know sometimes we’re just splitting I have something to toss to you guys now because Lud you have Otter as number one. I had him at number three. Sean had him at seven and Sam I believe you were at six. So why so much farther down as far as best players on the stars right now? Well let’s I want to be clear on one thing. This is highly reflective of how good the stars are, right? Like this is this is a you’re not this is not like I I want to be clear on one thing just from the start because I did I’m in the middle of doing the same exercise with the Detroit lineup and it is very different. It is harrowing. I think it’s a little bleak compared to Dallas. You are uh you’re talking about your number nine is not Matthew Shane. When you’re talking about uh Andrew Cop as your ninth or tth best player on your roster, you are in a world of hurt. So, as opposed to here we’re talking about it was pretty much universally Essa Lindell and Tyler Sean are your ninth and tenth best player give or take a spot or two. Y um so this is not this is more reflective on the Stars roster than Jake. Like I believe Jake got a I believe he’s a top 10 goalie in the world. I I do believe that. I believe he has potential to be a top five goalie in the world. Now you can’t be the top five goalie in the world if you’re going to falter in the Western Conference Finals three years in a row. I I hold that a bit against him. I need to see um and that’s that’s against him for both his performance and for the perspective of the team has to better understand what they have and they need to better use him because he clearly hits that wall that some that they need to manage. So that’s kind of where and then it also goes down to the fact of best to me and as I’m doing this and everyone can use a different terminology and that’s why it was kind of vague intentionally so people can look at it. To me it’s if you were doing a draft you say hey best player available. Yep. Right. And I would take those I would go through and the the ones I had before if I was drafting if we were drafting a team I would draft the other six before Jake. And that’s kind of how I went on that. So from an important part, is he the most important player on the stars? Probably. That’s definitely I think that’s he holds probably more power than any player on the stars right now with with on ice impact. But a little Yeah. No, just so when you’re looking at me, right? But just from a from for this exercise from a got to have LS come in and teach you microphone has it down over there from a purely best player available for me there’s six that would go before Yep. And now that’s Sam. Do you agree with that? Are there five players in your mind better than Jake on the Stars lineup? Yep. And the big one for me is is consistency. It’s the one that I kind of looked at with this and and Jake, nothing against Jake. Everything Sean just said is is the truth. then he has the potential to be even better and be be a top five goalie eventually. But um the hitting the wall and that’s the same reason I have I don’t even know where rumor eight is is rope hints and that’s because you wrote it I think exactly we he’s the literally one of the best players in the world and then two for two weeks we don’t even notice him on the ice and that’s if that’s who he is like you said then he definitely belongs where he is because he can be up in the top three consistently he’s not that hence could be one of the top centers in the NHL if he could play to his ceiling that we see on a more regular basis or is it physically impossible for him to play like that because there are nights where he looks like he shot out of a cannon and other nights where you don’t even see him as they’re saying. Yeah. I mean, I think we’ve seen again I he gets hurt every once in a while, right? And so that and to be able to push through that at times, you know, I don’t know, you know, I’m not going to say that he’s not hurt when he says he’s hurt. So, yeah, of course he does. But, you know, I go back to everything that you guys are talking about. If how how does Dallas get to the third round if Jake is not the best player on the ice? Yep. It doesn’t happen. Yep. And Miko Rainan. Yeah. Like to me Yeah. Then Mo kind of Mo kind of was going like this for me, you know. And not that he wasn’t good, right? And but but again that that’s why I guess I my I take it as I want him to be. I need him to be the best player on the ice, but I look at who was I I don’t look at the first, you know, how I am. I don’t look at the first 82. Pretty soon we’re gonna have to say the first 84, aren’t we? That’s Yes. Oh my god, that’s gonna be weird. But but again, it’s it’s at the right time of the year. I always kind of Yeah, let’s get through the season. Let’s I’m I’m not the one that says we got to finish on top. Of course, it’s it’s a lot better and hopefully you get a team that, you know, is a little bit lesser in the first round or something like that, but for me, it’s you know what what you do from 83 or 85 on coming up with with Jake. It’s also the interesting spot and I kind of I’m as I’m going through this and I’m compiling all of this and one of the cool things about this exercise was obviously speaking to people here but reached out to I spoke to 10 different people who cover this team from spoke to Leo from the Dallas Morning News Robert Tiffen who’s we spoke to people across the spectrum that cover this team to kind of get an idea of what the status quo on belief in the market is right and one of the interesting things when it comes to Aer to me and It’s the as you’re doing this is his expectation is been the the curve he gets graded on right now. It’s it’s really unfair and I’m even saying that as someone who has a well we’ve talked about on the show before he set the bar himself by saying he wants to be in Vasileleski territory. Yeah. Everyone it’s it’s not just what he has. It’s the it is the it’s what he said but to me it’s the three years in a row of he’s been that guy for rounds one and two. Yeah. And not in round three against the guy who has been terrible until eventually you become though like Jake and the stars to an extent but Jake is the one eventually it doesn’t matter like at the end of the day do you want to be Craig Lewig with two Stanley Cup rings or do you want Yes. Yes. Or or do you want to be the or do you want to be on a team that they made a 30 for30 on because you lost four years in a row in the biggest game like the like after the Buffalo Bills happened and that’s that’s where Jake is in that territory right now where he almost has the like Connor Hella has the whole like can’t get can’t get it done in the playoffs w Jake has almost a little bit more complex version of that where that’s great hey you can do it here but the lights get the brightest and somehow if if if I put Stuart Stuart Skinner 200 feet away from you. I’m sorry. Jeff Skinner. Which Skinner is it? Sorry. Or Skinner. Either Skinner. They’re both there. Jeff Skinner did score the game-winning goal that ended in the season. It’s hard when the lights are on, isn’t it? But when there’s uh if if you put a Skinner 200 feet away, he turns into a I know he shrinks. Hey, Luds. Uh I was going through your list as we were preparing for this show today. And again, we all have things close. The one that I thought was really interesting was I thought you had Ilia Leouchkin very high and not saying he’s not a valuable important part of this team, but you had him up at 11th. I believe I had him down at 16th. Sam was at 17th. Sean had him at 17. So why is Leouchkin so important or slash good for where he’s at in his game right now in his career? Because he’s the best number four that we have. And and I I just I again there’s part of me that when was doing this there there’s one side of me that is saying he needs to be that good. He needs to be part of the top four that is consistent and steady and you can’t just have your big three and I guess now we are throwing Thomas in there obviously is is one of those three with Essa and Miro. You can’t just ride three all the time and and so you have to have because I don’t know who the other number four is going to be. Maybe at someday it’ll be Liam. But again, there we go. What side does everybody play on? But for now, exactly my opinion is he has to be like Essa. He has to be a great penalty killer. He has to be able to play in areas of the ice, especially in his end, where he’s he’s hard to play against. I he doesn’t have to go out and hurt people, but when he goes into the corner, nobody should come out. Nobody should get to the front of the net. And you know, because last year, I think we kind of saw him all of a sudden going, “Look at him jump up in the play. Let him get up in the play and he was getting up there, right?” And and there’s nothing wrong with that. And that’s kind of what they preach. But I thought there were parts of the defensive game when he was getting involved offensively. I thought there was parts of the offensive game that was slipping a little bit from getting on the outside of players and giving up the middle at times and and he had some bad luck as you know when it came to penalty kills and some pucks that went in off them. But that that comes with the territory. But like I said, there’s part of me that I I want him to be better. I want him to be that guy that, you know, if if you and if it’s you and Essa going out there, man, you two guys go chew it up and then one of you maybe it’s Essa that can come off first once in a while, you know, and find a way to buy him a couple. He’s never going to leave the ice on those penalty kills, is he? No. Well, and that’s okay because he he is so good at at conserving his energy. He just he understands when when to bail out, when to take a step off. He’s so positionally strong. He plays the game from the neck up and and that’s why he can play as minutes as he does because he thinks the process sometimes faster than the offensive guy. So, I just I just think that being able to have a guy like Leouchkin and and Liam as they as they go through the season, if you can just saw off a minute or two or whatever it may be every other few games with the big three, maybe there’s a little more juice in them when you get to that that game 83 this year, then that carries over into the playoffs. All right. Uh if you guys have anything else to add on this, we do it on the other side. We will also tweet out all four of our lists on the DLS Stars Twitter account after the show today. If you want us to look and compare and all that, definitely check out Sean’s Substack article where he had compiled it from 10 different people. Up next, we lost a legend last week on Friday and we’re going to talk about it. Ken Dryden here on DLS. Talking merch. Yeah. I don’t know why you’re still asking me. We have a a Google doc that tells you what it is. What are you doing today? I texted you a group text that told you when it was. You know, this is the second. Let’s Holy cow. All I’m saying is I’m glad it’s Friday. Let’s talk about merch and the wonderful shirts that DLS has. Um Owen is wearing one right now. I am. Pocket flag. I have one I have one packed that I will wear in person on Monday. I also messaged our boss to see if you he had a collection for you that hasn’t yet been distributed and I haven’t heard back from him. Makes sense. I mean, he’s not here, so I could just go into his office right now. We could just go ransack him. I could just go ransack his office. Either Luds has had success. Yes. Just banging on the door and demanding another shirt. No, that’s Hey, the only reason that happened is because the little guy that sits in the middle there, we were wearing the same shirt and I wasn’t cool coming out there looking like the Bobsy Twins. Well, it would have been like Arnold Schwarzenegger and Danny DeVito, right? So, when you’re ransacking an office here, well, I I’m going to pull it together, Sam. What if I told you there was great apparel for ransacking your boss’s office? If you’re if you’re going to go ransack your boss’s office, you want to be wearing the best possible look DLS shirts. And you can get one of those for free by becoming a diehard. When you become a diehard, you get a shirt. And I believe every year after you get a shirt as well. So, I’m not positive on that. What? I said at least for your first year. At least for the first year. And there’s a QR code that I’m going to point to that means nothing. I could do this way. Yep. There we go. We’ll get you a chance to talk more about Die Hards in the next ad break. Sam had Sam had to duck out for an emergency chapstick application for this segment of the read right now. Do I read now? Oh my god. Well, I don’t know what time is. I can’t see. I don’t know what time. Supporters club. Let’s talk about the supporters club. The supporters club is different than just being a diehard. As Sean laid out for you so nicely before. This is for true sicko level stuff for the real ones. So supporters club is new. It’s uh if you’re looking in the chat, you probably see a few people’s names that really pop. including Harry who thought you were sneaking off to the bathroom. Okay, Harry. No, I was not. Just just getting an e chapstick, but you you get the awesome tags, I believe they’re called on there. Um badges that show your name. It pops. First thing that we see first on the screen. You probably can’t read it. It says the official supporters club badge. The SC right there. Yeah, I don’t have my glasses on. But you also get exclusive access to some videos we’re going to be doing here. Some behind the scenes stuff. Uh some other cool stuff as well. And if you’re looking, you’ll see some emojis that are in there as well, which the Bing Bong one is the one that’s the most popular. I cannot see what the other ones are. I believe there’s a star. Looks like a cowboy star. Um, wait, you can see that, but you can’t read the words. Yeah, there’s also those emojis. Maybe maybe eventually a L’s head will be in there. But plenty of cool stuff uh just to take you to the next level after being in the next level and in the next level of a fan. So, join the supporters club since 2025. All right, let’s talk about Ken Dryden for a minute because he’s one of the most decorated goalies in the history of the Montreal Canadiens and I would say argue that he’s one of the great goalies in NHL history as well. He passed away after a battle with cancer last Friday. I believe the news came out after our show and we had a couple guests lined up this past week. So, it we didn’t have a chance to do it before then, but we didn’t want it to get any further than now because he’s a pretty darn big deal. And we’re going to ask Luds about some things because obviously he sh wasn’t on the same team in Montreal, but he shares playing for that organization and winning with that organization. Our good buddy Daryl Ray has made it very public that Ken Dryden was his hero, his idol growing up. And so the day after uh Dryden’s passing, he he tweeted a picture out uh Ryan if the one where he’s standing in the net on hands on his knees if you have it or just guess one of them. It’ll probably be be right. Oh, not that one. The other one. That’s the one from uh there. That one. And Razer said, “I tried to copy his stance. I portrayed him in driveways and on streets in I think that’s in Prince George as a kid because he did it said PG. I write the D in my signature for Daryl just like Dryden did. I wore number 29 because he wore it. I stood in the crease at the forum in awe that this was where he used to stand. Ken Dryden was my idol. Then in case you didn’t think that that was enough, show the other photo. Ryan Martin, arguably one of the most decorated goalies in NHL history along with Ken Dryden. Stole one of Marty Turo’s business. He wrote on Twitter, “I always looked up to Ken Dryden. He revolutionized the position and rose to the occasion in big moments. Beyond his greatness on the ice. He was a remarkable person and the hockey community will miss him dearly. My condolences to the Dryen family. Photo by my dad, Denny Broaddor, which I thought was really cool.” So, Marty Brod’s dad took that picture of Ken D. I mean, look at that. So Luds, without going through, I’m not just going to sit and read all his accomplishments. I think he won six Stanley Cups with the the the Habs. He had a Khan Smite, obviously an incredible goalie, but not just that. What’s your perspective on what the life and career of Ken Dryen was? Well, the first thing I’d like to say is that, and I I knew he was Razer was a, you know, that was his idol. At least he got the D right. Razer and his name and he got the stance right as far as the comparisons [Laughter] probably as far Razer during a Kenton Dryden memorial. No, my my sympathy goes to Razer because I know he was a big guy for him. Um, you know, I mean, you would think that everything that you talk about and all the things that you said that he played for 15 years, you know what I mean? like he played eight years. He won six cups in eight years, but you know his first like there’s you know there for me there was a bit of a comparison to Patrick you know I mean he only played I think it was 20 games in his first year and then went on to win a Stanley Cup you know what I mean as a rookie and coming in and but I I think that and I you know I had the chance to talk to him a couple times and but it was about who he was away from the rink probably more so um very intelligent obviously I mean he was the president no I don’t think anybody really ever talked about him being the president of the Toronto Maple Leafs, you know, and I mean, he was part of Parliament. He he wrote a book and oh, he wrote a bunch of books and then you and I were looking up the game and you know that and they moved that move that into a series. It wasn’t like an eight-part series or something like that on CBC in Canada if I’m if we saw correctly. Yeah. Yeah. So, um but you know, I I think he was more of a guy that his education and everything that he did away from the game was probably more important. He just happened to be an unbelievable athlete and a goalender. It’s funny you talk they and Red Fisher Red’s you know passed on tube and you know the topic would always come up and he would always talk about some of the games that because the Montreal was so good at the time you know there were times when he’d only have like two or three shots in a period but but he had to be good because that’s where that pose comes from because he’s actually just watching everybody down at the other end of the rink because Montreal controlled the game. But again, as goalenders know, all of a sudden you got to be ready for a flurry of three, four of them and TV, right? He did the Olympics and um all that kind of stuff. So I think I think and and probably the most the one thing that probably stood out when I heard it is that you know he got cancer and that that’s what you know that’s obviously what why he passed away. But nobody knew it. He didn’t tell anybody. I mean Larry didn’t know, Larry Robinson didn’t know Sabbar, Gil Point, all the guys that were his best, you know, the big three guys. None of those guys knew. He had a conversation with the family and just said, “Hey, no one’s gonna find this out. This is just us and we’re gonna go through it. We’re gonna get through it.” And and so those guys I know were tore up when they found out about how what he had because he never knew. So, um, again, I I just think he’s one of those kind of people that he he had a gift to play the game, but there were a lot of other things that were probably more important in life to him. and it was away from the game and helping and he and again he he talked about his brother a lot too. You know, brother was goalender too, Toronto and so he he talked a ton about his brother and he wanted the focus to be on his brother. So I it just tells you about about Kenny as a as a human being. Yeah. I mean he was for me Ken Dryden was the I never got to see Ken Dryden play. to have have watched it play like that. But I first was introduced to Ken Dryden through the book through the game which is one of the greatest hockey books ever written. It’s believe it’s basically him. He wrote it throughout the course of the 7879 Canadian season. Um and he knows it’s his last season even though he had actually stepped away from the game for a year after six years and then came back for another two. So, I got to know Ken’s writing more through the book first. Then you started going through that. And for me, there’s two things that I’ve watched way more in low definition television that I care to admit to. It’s the there’s game eight of the 72 Summit series. And it’s not for the Paul Henderson thing. I’m not a Canadian. I don’t care that Paul Henderson scored the game-winning goal. But it’s the it’s the Dryden Treak. That’s Dry and Treak and in game eight there series on the line. Two of the best goalies of all time going to headto-head. Um the other one for me is there’s the um the 1975 New Year’s Eve game between the Canadians and the Red Army team and it’s Montreal actually out it’s a ends up being a three-3 tie. It’s widely considered one of the greatest hockey games ever played. And you look at that game and you go back through that box score and it would really showed. So Treak, a lot of the narrative is Treak stole that game because Canadians outshot Red Army 38 to 13 in the game and that’s something where you’re like, “Okay, well yeah, no, if you go and watch the tape,” and I’ve watched that game way too many times. It was of the 13 shots that the Russians had in that game, 10 12 11 or 12 of them are breakaways. oddman rushes and it’s it was the perfect encapsulation of what type of goalie Ken had to be for that team. He had to be the guy who he might do nothing for 10 12 minutes, but then there would be the breakdown going the other way. there would be the and it’s it’s why that both before he was there the year um he he stepped away and then and the year after why there was such a struggle to find someone else who could play goalie that position as as Luds knows right like is there there’s very few positions in sports other than the goalie for the Montreal Canadians where you are getting that much pressure and being broken down that much nonetheless in two languages and that’s the like and so the way he handled that, the way his kind of and I I think I truly believe he’s a really good example of sometimes where having things bigger than hockey to him might be one of the reasons he had that success and I don’t know for sure. This is just my own your own conjecture about my own theory conjecture just having read he wrote the book he wrote a another book about concussions and everything like that where I was telling Lud that the other day how adamant he was of if you really care about human beings in hockey you have to get rid of all head contact. Yes. And so and be really ruthless about the pen punishments if you really care if that’s your choice. I mean, he was he took very aggressive stances on this. And if you’re going to be and if that and maybe that’s what it took to be having kind of knowing at the end of the day being a good person, doing the having those other things in life. Maybe that’s how you deal with may that maybe that’s the the best way you deal with that the pressure of being the goalie for the Canadians too. So to me to me I I I was introduced to him first as an author as a reader and then went deep down this path and I always and his career is fascinating. So if you haven’t read the game you should. It’s a really great book for no matter what level of hockey fan you are. It’s a it’s it’s you really should go through that and if you can and go look it up too like some of those old hockey games are even though the quality of the video product is not great. It’s fun to watch and and you hear these names to go and see that and and he is a really good example of how the position was played at an elite level at that time and a way that I’m sure if he had played in any other area would continue to adapt and figure it out too. Sam, you’re the youngest on the show. What does Ken Dryen h what kind of impact does he have on you? Yeah, I didn’t know a ton about him except for the the big ones, the the cups and the the awards and all those things, but the the one memory, as funny as it sounds for me, is the Miracle on Ice call. Yeah. Uh him and Al Michaels. I think he was the color guy. Al was the playbyplay. So that obviously through watching that movie and then obviously going back, I watched that game a bunch of times, the actual game itself. Um just that may is that not one of the most important calls at least in American sports hockey history. So, um, just that’s how I’ll remember him, but everything I’ve heard has been what we’re talking about now. The the person he was, the the way he was able to go above and beyond, overcome pressures, things like that. So, just a someone who will go down in hockey history forever. Yep. A fascinating individual. Hey, Sean, I just want when you mentioned that 72 game, I think I heard it’s probably right again. I I’m not sure, but they were actually behind in that game five-2 at the end of the second period. And apparently um because I think they won that game six to five, but apparently I don’t know. Scott, would Scotty have been coaching that team at the time? I’m not even sure. I think he might have been. I’d have to double check that. Yeah, but apparently they came in and and guys were looking around and they’re like, there’s no way nobody else is going in. Like if we’re going to win this game, it’s going to be because of him. And they came back and ultimately, you know, scored four goals and whatever and won the game 65. But that’s just how much respect they had for the guy. Yeah. And and that that series too was one where cuz he he was an eightgame series and he he’s playing in game eight. But it’s um Espazito started I think three or four games in that series as well. But when it came to time of who is going to be in the net when the game is on the line when this event that is bigger than hockey that was a very cultural it was a touchy cultural touch point. That’s a very bad phrasing I’m aware. Um, but it was he was the guy who was there. So, all right, we got a break. Yep. We’ll talk about a bunch, but Ken Dryden, incredible life and career and our condolences to everybody that was touched by his presence. Now, segue into DLS Die Hard. Be a diehard where you get culturally touchy touch points. Easy for you to say. Um, no. But you should become a diehard because a we have such an incredible community and everything like that and and that’s actually more important than any of us three sitting up here. I think that’s one of the coolest things about being a diehard is you find your sports are about being a part of community. Sports are about going through the highs and lows with with others that have the same mad passion as you. And that’s what you get by becoming a diehard. there is an entire community of Stars fans that has kind of bubbled up and that already existed, but now we just opened the door for them all to come in one place and communicate. And so you can get into that community and and be part of it. Um be part of the in in-game conversation on the Discord by becoming a diehard. And it’s it’s a pretty cool thing to see where it comes. I mean, I know I’ve spoken I’ve met a couple of them in the few times I’ve been down here. To hear the stories about how dieards have become friends with other dieards and and then they’ve they’ve found other people within their own circle. I’m waiting I’m waiting for the engagement. Yeah. Of two dieards. Yes. There you go. And then Sam will officiate the wedding. Yes. There you go. There it is. And then Sam that I’m That’s my offer right now. If you if you are two dieards who get engaged, Sam will officiate your wedding. I will pay Sam’s fees to become a uh I’ll pay the 35 bucks to whatever get Sam ordained or whatever it is. So on that note, become a dieard ordained and you can do or you can have the balln knower bonus. So go how do you get to it? You go to the website alldls.com click on merch and then up at the top there’s a ballnoer bonus link. Click on that and you’ll see the current all city promotions. So you go and pick one. Let’s say Cowboys versus Giants. they have, which is this week. Predict the Dallas Cowboys total rushing yards versus the New York Giants over or under 110 a half yards. So, you pick that then you buy $25 or more from DLS merch. You’re a diehard, you get 20% off anyway. If you’re right, you’ll get a gift card from All City for the amount that you spent. That’s the Ball Noer bonus. And the reason I uh suggest uh Sam to officiate your wedding is because I have done one in my life and it ended in divorce. So I am I have as a as a registered minister I am for one. Sam is if he officiates a wedding is there a heightened sense of somebody’s going to end up in the hospital. At what wedding? Any any hypothetical future wedding? Maybe a DLS diehard wedding. I don’t know. All right. You know, something’s gonna happen. We all right to go smoothly. I just wouldn’t be there. My I’d be in a different city. That’s right. You wouldn’t be able to get there. Yes. All right. Let’s talk about some NHL news and notes. Bloods. I want to start with Kil Capri off because we had his general manager on the show earlier this week and apparently neither side Capriovv’s representation or the Minnesota Wild executive team are happy that the news got out that he rejected $128 million contract offer. Yeah, I am too. I mean, uh, you know what I hear is that it’s something similar to what Conor’s asking for, which isn’t more money. It’s about making sure that there is a commitment to bring in, you know, the players that he has an opportunity to win a Stanley Cup. doesn’t necessarily want to spend I know it’s a kick in the teeth to all the people in Minnesota but you know doesn’t want to spend seven eight years there and not have a chance to win a cup which yeah you know you can’t blame them I mean the great players want that’s what they want and so um I’m just happy Owen that that I didn’t go down that road with Billy the other day because I told you what I was going to ask about yes and and I’m happy that we stayed out of that because you and I actually talked about something after the show too and then it all came out. So, it’s the first time that I haven’t been part of a shit storm, so I’m kind of happy. I love it. Do you guys think that I Because we were talking about the other day, Ryan doesn’t like I don’t think Minnesota is anywhere near being a Stanley Cup contender at the moment. They have some good pieces. They have, you know, we talked with Billy Garren, they have some some assets in the pipeline, but in the next two to three years, I know they have, as Lud said the other day to Garen, the the handcuffs of the Sudter and Paresi buyout, the 14.7 million in cap hit is down to like 1.7 or something like that now. So, they have more activity available. They still haven’t done anything with it yet. Let me put it this way for you. At any point in the next five years, are the Minnesota Wild a top two team in the central? In the C. No, in the Central. No. Exactly. That’s my point. They are a playoff team. Yeah. It’s not even not even the league. We’re talking about their own division. Yeah. They’re on the they’re on the bubble of in and out of the playoffs and they can make the playoffs. This is where this is where the capers off thing becomes interesting because I people like to blow out the the state tax thing when it comes to this and that and the other because but if that was the case the Seattle Kraken would automatically be good because Seattle doesn’t have state income tax either. Um, this is though where this does come into play of if you’re Capri off and do you want to live in a place where there’s not a cup chance and it’s 10° outside or do you want to like I mean like seriously just like living in Russia. Yeah. Like you you might as well, right? Like or do you want to live in or do you want you want do you want to golf all year round? I think I think number one is can I win right? Yes. Conor McDavid will be happy staying in Edmonton if he thinks if you can win but there are guys that say hey I want warmer weather over colder weather but ultimately anywhere can be a destination if you have a chance to win. Right. Well, and and here’s the other thing. The number he’s talking about and and it’s they are at the I know there’s been the kind of conflicting reports of whether the trade list was requested or not. I know that’s Yes, I’ve seen it’s kind of batted back and forth by by various reporters, but let’s put it this way. If you talk about, hey, can we win? Can we do this? Can you win if you are paying one player $16 million in today’s NHL? I mean, Edmonton seems to think that they’re going to be able to do it with McDavid, but they also have dry. No, but this is this is where you have the Capriov arguing. This is where things are going. Let me ask Led this real quick. Led, I have no problem with Capri off’s value. I think he’s an incredible player, but he has had a pretty big injury list over the last few years. I don’t know if that’s his fault or not. Are you at all concerned about giving him an eight-year contract and that much money for a guy that has missed time significant time due to injury? Well, I don’t know. I mean, I’d like to put myself in Billy’s shoes and or in his seat and go, you know, could this be a Gretzky thing? You know, like how good could you get if we talk about like Sean said, how are you going to win the next five years? But, um, no, not if you’re going to pay him $130 million and you can’t get anybody else in. I mean, is this a situation where, you know, they get creative and they find, you know, some team that that can offer up, you know, three, four players or whatever it may be. You advance you in where you are as far as when you guys say, you know, you’re going to make the playoffs, that’s about it. Can is it is he worth going ahead and moving a superstar, which but I I don’t know that answer obviously, but if you can bring in three or four, five pieces maybe because he is that good. Is somebody willing to pay that price? You’ve you’ve played in Minnesota though. They finally have their guy for a long time. They had good teams but not really a bonafide NHL superstar. They had Mike Madano. Who? Minnesota. Wild. Yeah. When he played but you said when you when Luds played in Minnesota. Yeah. Right. And they had and they had Craig Lewig. Craig Lewig. No, but but it’s been a long time. I don’t They had one guy there. They had one guy that they considered was their superstar. Sean, you guys should know it. uh six, seven years ago. Um that was their big guy. Are you talking about Marian Gabri? Gabri. Yeah, Gabri. That was over a decade. That was their last superstar guy. Right. If they decide that the best course of action is to trade Capri off fans revolt when that team had a supporting cast to come together and have an opportunity to win a Stanley Cup. Isn’t that why they went out and gave all the money to Sudter and Paresi was to try to create a new past the first round in it’s been a long time twice the first round I think it’s been a decade they haven’t passed the first round. Um, let me No, they’re they’re their history is losing in the first round. I know, but they have been past the first round. Um, let me let me just connect this to an earlier part of the show because we talked about ranking things earlier. Okay. Best player available. How far down? No cap constrictions. Okay. Best player available fantasy draft in the NHL. Every team, every every player goes into the pool. How many picks does it go before Capriov is taken? Every single player is available. So, if we assume, let’s just say McDavid’s going, right? McDavid’s one. We’re not worrying about cap hit. We throw every like how how is is is he is he taken in the first five picks? No, I don’t think so. Well, he’s so important to that Minnesota Wild. Not to the Minnesota Wild. No, no, just looking at players. Are you starting a new team or are you adding him to another team? No. No. This is all luds. The concept is every we’re taking all 32 rosters dumping them into one pot and then so every single team is just being re is is starting from you’re starting new. You’re not add new team. I mean he doesn’t go coo McKinnon Dry settle past maybe Marner but McDavid Austin Matthews Kale Mar Sydney Crosby Austin Matthews I don’t think he goes above any of those players. See, you’re you’re what you’re Kai said you because I would have him up a little higher. It just that’s just me only because I think he brings a little more grit to the game. I think he he’s a little bit more of a a train going into corner. I’m not saying he’s Billy Garren when Billy played. I’m not saying he’s that guy, but there’s there’s an element to him. Now, again, if he’s 100% healthy, no injuries and things like that, that would affect it, too. But I think there but I agree with you. I don’t know if he’s in the top 10, you know, but I agree what you’re saying. Um, but there are a couple of the guys that you mentioned. I mean, I I brought up Austin Matthews the other day besides scoring 50 goals a year, you know what I mean? Yep. Yeah. I mean, I would never turn it down, but what about Miko Ron? Hold that thought real quick. Thank you to our viewers today on our television platforms. Make sure to like and subscribe here on the pod and check out all dls.com. Okay, we’ve satisfied our production team by doing that. So now you can ask the question before we wrap things up. Yeah, I was I was gonna ask quickly. What about compared to Miko Ran? You want me to tell you the truth about Mo? I need to see a little bit more from him. I mean, I know he’s done a lot of things and he’s in that team that he was on. He was obviously a big piece to that team, right? But he had big pieces around him that understood each other. And I think, you know, and again, that chemistry has to come wi with Miro and with Robo that that stuff has to evolve for him to be the guy that he was there if he’s ever going to be that guy, you know. I hope hopefully he’s going to be that guy. He’s here for a long time and they’re paying a lot of money for him. So, but yes, he’s a he’s a he’s a good player. There’s no question. I mean, he’s he’s in the Is he in the top five for any of you guys? Who? Mo. Yeah. No, no, no, no, no. Maybe top 10, but not to crack in the 10 11 range probably. Well, here, look at this real quick. Uh, I love Missy in the chat said McDavid McKinnon, Coovro, Marry Cidle. I’d add Quinn Hughes to that mix, right? And then you start talking about guys like is it knock? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it’s easy to get to 10 already about still there of his age. And this is where the whole this is where I kind of go back on just the the Capri off thing when it comes and this is where Bill Garin has to think about this this whole this whole spot of it’s not just the what you can get in return if a trade like if you were to hypothetically trade Carrie off it’s not about just being able to get the hypothetical return but if he is going to sign for let’s just say he turned down 16 million per year and say he’s going to sign somewhere say someone’s going to give him 18 I’m just pulling number out of my butt on this. Right? Say someone’s going to give him 18. I can I can get I can build I can I can get something back in return in the trade and I could bring in two other really nice pieces for $18 million. Like you could have two million players. Like that is and that’s and that’s where I go on this because and that’s why I go to that point of if he was in if you would if if one of you had instantly said, you know what, Sean, yeah, he’s right. It’s McDavid then him. He’s top five in the world right there right away. I’d be like, okay, pay him that. I that’s that’s that’s that’s where my point goes on. He is that important to the Minnesota Wild. What Luds is saying, he is a really good player, but I don’t think he it’s that is ranked that high. Now again, part of it is because of of his injury history because remember McDavid didn’t win the Calder Trophy his first year because he missed half the season. There was no doubt he was the best rookie that year, but he didn’t play enough of the season. Yeah. How can you be one of the top players in the league? Like I think Capri off had a great argument to be a heart finalist if not the heart trophy winner if he played the whole season and gets Minnesota into the playoffs there. Yeah. That’s why I didn’t ask the other question too. How do you handle when your owner says comes out and says we will get him signed? Oh my god. I mean what do you Let’s I mean what you’re the GM and your owner says that. Doesn’t that take tie one hand behind your back or Well, I don’t know if it really does because he’s the one that said it and he’s the one that’s writing the check, you know. So, or you tell your owner to call Steve Balmer and ask him how he can find a way to get that money off the cap, off the books. There you go. Have a no-show job. Um, we will be back on Monday. We’ll do a full recap of the prospect games because we’ll be all watching. Luds will be back in studio by then. Um, we didn’t get to talk about Sydney Crosby whose agent Pat Brassan floated the idea of a possible trade depending on how the We have enough for an entire show on just what happened in Pittsburgh today. I I I’m seriously Andre Flurry stuff. Um at some point in the next week, we’re not trying to duck this. We have to address the uh NHL, NHLPA agreement for the players from Hockey Canada that were suspended, terminated, went through the trial uh for the sexual assault allegations in was it the 2018 World Junior Team? So, we’ll get to that, but that’s this thing up. My late checkout’s over with. All right. Oh yeah, he is on. And just a couple other things that we will get to. Dustin, did you say just a couple other things? Dustin Wolf signed and guess what? Buffalo signed Alexander Gorgi of it. I think that’s the funniest thing of the week. See you lads. Have a good day, boys. Enjoy the rest of your weekend. We’ll see you back. I got an angry man outside the door. Go win some games with your team. There goes Sam. Sean’s here. We’ll we’ll have him here in studio on Monday as well. The Luds will be here. Sam will be here. Unless he gets caught somewhere in a in like a bunny trap or something. You never know. A snare. That’s the word I was looking for. For our producer Ryan Vers, I’m Owen Newkerk. Have a great weekend. We’ll see you Monday at 2 o’clock live here on DLLS. [Music] [Applause] [Music]

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