Evan SNAPS On The Jets & Giants After Another Miserable Sunday
Welcome in to another absolutely freaking miserable Monday. We’re in the midst of an alltime New York Mets choke. We’ll get to that later. The New York Jets decided to get creative with our emotions and find a new way to kick us in the groin. We’ll get to that in just a few short minutes. And then you have the New York Giants who did whatever the hell that was on Sunday night against the Kansas City Chiefs. We’re going to get to all of it. We’re going to talk to you. We’re going to be your therapist. Tikki was there last night. He was there until 2 o’clock in the morning. What a freaking disaster. Yeah, I was not happy about that one. Mainly for the reason that is obvious. The New York Giants have good players on this team. But these good players are a group of undisiplined, underachieving, well put together roster who don’t make plays. They’re not playmakers. They’re not aware of the moment when something big is a needs to happen and they have the opportunity to make that happen. They don’t make the plays. Now, they did against the Cowboys in a lot of cases. You saw them league neighbor stuff, but against the best team defensively and in in in the NFL over the last couple years, maybe year and a half, the Kansas City Chiefs, who aren’t scoring a ton of points, who are flawed in so many ways, but their defense has been dominant. when you have chances to make plays, you have to make plays. This team doesn’t do it. And I know we’ll get to the coaching at some point, talk about Daves and Kfka and and and Shane Bowen and all these other, you know, pieces of of this puzzle, but as I was watching the game last night, to me it was the players. Paul Sanbo, you have your hands, both hands on a football, catch it. Abdul Carter, I know you’re a rookie, but you came in talking like you were the man. You got your a quarterback Pat Mahomes dead to rights for a sack. Sack him. Don’t let him toss a ball 70 yards downfield and get a PI. Oh, and Drew Phillips, can you play consistently, please? Sometimes you look fantastic. Others you look like you don’t know what the hell you’re doing. This team doesn’t have playmakers. They have good players. They don’t have playmakers. And they’re not going to win until they figure out that every one of those little moments. Oh, I got to pause. Cameron Scataboo, you’re a baller, dude. I I give you your respect because you you run hard as hell. And you talked about your physicality on the pregame show that we were hosting with John Schmilk, how physicality transfers. When I run somebody over, when I stone somebody at the line of scrimmage, guys get jacked up about it and it c and it transfers. Respect. Everybody else needs to play like that. Yeah. And they don’t. And they don’t. You know, you talk about making plays. This game when Cam Scataboo rumbled into the end zone for a 14yd touchdown run and he made it 66. It was the first time, probably the only time watching the game at home. I said to myself, “Wow, you you know what? Maybe they can win this game.” I thought they were winning after that moment. I get that. They the the the Chiefs, it’s two field goals. Defense is doing their job. Yeah. Right. Ben, don’t break. Let them kick field goals. Then they miss one and then Cam does that. Unbelievable. No, dude. And it was winning this game. It was right after the Chiefs made two mistakes, including a roughing the passer penalty that extended a drive and it’s like, okay, it’s 66. And there was a sequence of three things that happened in the next 5 minutes that I think perfectly define what you were saying. First of all, and we’ll get more into detail on this as the show rolls on, the Giants, for the third time in the Brian Dable era, are essentially left without a kicker. And so Graham Canó can’t hit the extra point to go up 76 cuz he’s not attempting it. A punter is. And instead of going for two, which they were probably better off doing, you get yourself a mixed extra point. That’s number one. Number two, and to me, this is the play that defines the New York Giants. Patrick Mahomes, which I still can’t figure out why, decides to throw the football backwards and Bobby O’ Carrick makes a play, tries to tries to picks up the football. He’s running and I’m like, “Oh my god.” And then Patrick Mahomes rips the ball away from him the way a bully rips candy out of a child’s hand. The way Shawn rips something that his daughter is doing out of her hand. No, no, you don’t grab that. The way I rip something out of my kid’s hand. Pat Mahomes said, “No, rips it away from him.” And then five plays later, you mentioned the missed opportunities. Paul Sinado, who I think has 10 career interceptions in his career. That’s why he was signed here. I heard he’s good at that. That’s what I was told. Drops an interception. And all of that leads to instead of the Giants being up 13-6 or maybe 96 or something of that nature. They’re down 96 at the half with the Chiefs getting the ball to start the third quarter. And you know what? I know what everybody knew. They missed a chance. Those three moments to me define the missed opportunity that the Giants had last night against the Kansas City Chiefs. Agreed. Agreed. And that’s not on the coaching. That’s on the players not making the plays. And so we’ll get to the coaching because it was bad. The red zone continues to be a disaster. An utter disaster. Russell Wilson against good defenses over the last two years has not played well. Period. It’s like he’s a different person. When he’s playing a little sisters of the poor, it’s easy. I I’ll throw for 450 yards. But when you’re playing one of the top defenses, the Kansas City Chiefs have been up 18 points in the last year or so, last couple of games, uh, going back into last year, they’re a good defense. Steve Spagdool is going to test you. He’s going to make you think. He’s going to make you question what you think you should do. Russell Wilson looked like he was a thirdyear player doubting whether am I going to throw this ball to Malik Neighbors? No, I’m not going to. I’m going to throw this this over. No, you know, I’m going to throw it to Malik Neighbors and throw an interception. Right. Those type of decisions are not what Russell Wilson is here to do. You know what that reminds me of? You know, we have been lucky, really unlucky actually, to watch legendary players play in our city at the end of their careers. And my no means am I saying Russell Wilson is legendary, but he’s put together a borderline Hall of Fame career. He’s been in multiple Super Bowls. He’s won a Super Bowl championship. He’s got a hell of a resume. And I’ve learned something, Tee, through all different sports, through basketball, through baseball, and certainly in the NFL. What a formerly great to really good player looks like at the end of their career. Justin Verlander, Kevin Durant, and Russell Wilson. Those are just a few examples. And here’s what it is. Exactly what you described. There will be hints of greatness. There will be hints of, “Oh, Russell Wilson, that’s the Russell Wilson I remember.” But more times than not, he ain’t that guy. And what we saw yesterday evening is what you your first reaction was. You know what they tell you when you take the SATs or you take a test in high school, your first reaction is the right one. But sometimes, as long as you studied for it, but sometimes you change your first reaction cuz maybe you see something like, “Ah, you know what? This is different.” I remember months ago, months ago when we brought up Russell Wilson, you uttered the famous phrase. You said, “Russell Wilson is washed.” Russell Wilson is washed. No. No. Russell Wilson is washed. And just because a player has a moment or a game or a few quarters where they make you think they’re not. Yeah. Doesn’t mean they’re not washed. what we saw last night, especially on that drive in which Russell Wilson is throwing footballs off the goalposts and throwing footballs up the hallway, that’s a sign of a guy who’s done doesn’t know what he’s doing or doesn’t know what he wants to do. And that’s really the biggest problem that I have. Russell Wilson projects positivity. It is just who he is. It’s in his nature. He is a great man. I I’m not is not not talking about him as a person. I’m talking about him as a football player. And right now from week one and week three, week two is completely different story because Dallas’s defense, as we subsequently have seen, stinks. The the Chicago Bears destroyed them. We saw it. So, we know what Cowboys defense is. So, week one and week three, two of the better defenses in the NFL. Russell Wilson looks like he doesn’t know what he’s supposed to do. And that’s disappointing, but it’s kind of what we saw in Denver. It’s what we saw even with Shawn Payeyton in Denver where he got benched at the end of the year. It’s what we saw for the last, you know, five games of his season with the Pittsburgh Steelers, right? He started pretty good and then he kind of just fell apart. So, like I don’t I don’t I don’t want to just dump and run away from Russ because I think his leadership is important. I don’t think that this locker room has given up on Russell Wilson. I don’t think that they’re in the back of their minds clamoring for Jackson Dart. So, there’s the budding of this quarterback controversy that we always hear when there’s a young guy waiting in the wings. I don’t think the team is there yet. I don’t even know if Daves is there yet. But just like me and you and every single Giant fan out there, you got to be at least thinking it. It’s It hasn’t bubbled to the surface yet, but you’re at least thinking what I said two years ago and what you just repeated. Yeah, that Russ doesn’t have it anymore. No, he’s not playing that way. And the Cowboy game, and I was afraid of this when we were previewing this game against Kansas City, cuz I was afraid of it. I’d rather talk about wins. All right. I don’t love talking about how we’re all such a big bunch of losers, which we are right now. 0 and6. I mean, 0 and6 in New York football. We’ll get to the pathetic mess that is the Jets in a few short minutes. But Russell Wilson is proving that what we saw for four quarters, cuz it wasn’t the entire game. It certainly wasn’t overtime, was an aberration against the Cowboys. He did a great job picking on an incredibly flawed Dallas Cowboy defense. He appears to be what your gut reaction was, a wash quarterback. But here’s what’s so complicated about it. What’s complicated is I heard 70,000 people chanting for Jackson Dart last night. I don’t blame you. I don’t blame you for wanting that, but the problem is I don’t know if that’s what’s best, right? And so we’re at this road, by the way, was probably more like 40,000 because 30,000 in there were Chiefs fans. Oh, that’s true. Maybe not that many, but there was it was there was a lot of them. And and the the crowd was I don’t want to call the people toxic. You’re not toxic. The situation is toxic. Yeah. What we witnessed last night, Russell Wilson is on the last leg of his career. He comes out for a play. Here comes Jackson Dart and the crowd cheers like a rockstar walked into the building. Then Brian Davos says, “All right, enough of that. Let’s go take our package out and go back to Russell Wilson.” And the crowd chants like they’re at a funeral. The situation is toxic as all hell. Yeah. They’ve created a a a fan reaction that didn’t need to be created. They created a revolt. Yeah. And it’s it’s a bad situation now. It just is. They’re 0 and3. They’re going to make a quarterback change at some point and we’re all going to debate when that should be. They find ways to lose, which I thought last night was a great example of. That was a winnable game. It was a winnable game. Again, go back to that sequence at the end of the first half. It was there for them. They had opportunities. You see the same mistakes over and over again like, “Hey, our kicker’s hurt. Uhoh. What do we do?” Yeah. And here’s the thing I You’ll hear that was just bad luck. Oh, it’s just bad luck. Yeah. Bad timing. Just bad luck. Guy gets hurt in warm-ups. He was healthy all week, not on injury report. He gets hurt. Fool me once, right? Yes. Shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Fool me the third time. What in the hell is going on? Third time. He’s right. Seriously, this is the third straight year where there was some type of Graham Gano injury issue that left the New York Giants naked. We’ll go into further detail on all of these things and get you your calls coming up at 88881019. And then you had a 15minute sequence that I’ll never forget. And I swear to God when I say this to you when the New York Jets lost the way they did to Tampa and when Jacob Young is climbing the fence and robbing Francisco Alvarez of a game tying home run. I had a thought. I had a thought of running away. I had a thought of I’m going to call the architect, our boss, and tell him I’m done doing this. I don’t want to come on the radio anymore. I was going to cancel all my subscriptions. I was going to cancel my season tickets and I was going to become a history teacher. That’s what that was it. I was about to tell my wife, “Sorry, hun. I’m going to make a lot less money. I’m a baby.” But I’m about to be a history teacher cuz I can’t deal with this crap anymore. I can’t deal with the constant pain, the constant neglect, and the constant new creative ways to lose. And let me make this perfectly clear to this head coach. And we’ll listen to what he had to say. We’ll analyze some of the things Aaron Glenn did yesterday. But let me just start off with a very simple comment. The Jets sucked yesterday. Same old Jets. They didn’t play well. We were lucky due to weird circumstances that led to the Will McDonald block and return that even gave this team a chance to win. And they lost like the losers they are. Stunning nobody, right? Everybody knew with a minute 45 to go, you gave at Baker Mayfield and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers way too much time. So I accept that. I accept we’re losers. I accept that it was a new painful creative way to lose. Do not tell me. Do not spit in my eye and tell me it’s raining. Don’t tell me there’s progress. What progress? They played like crap. Did you run the ball well? Did you throw the ball well? Did you defend anything well? Were you more disciplined? The answer is no to literally every answer. Right? They sucked yesterday. So don’t tell me things are better. Don’t tell me it’s close. And don’t tell me I don’t believe in moral victories, but don’t give me butts. So, I was aggravated to no end because a the Mets are a bunch of gutless cowards who are going to miss the playoffs. And if you disagree with that, you’re lying to yourself. Don’t tell me after another new creative way to lose. Well, we’re making progress and we’re not the same old Jets. I will make this perfectly clear to Aaron Glenn and anybody else. We are the same old Jets. Until you prove we’re not same old Jets until you win until you make it obvious. Until you make it clear you’re not the same old Jets. You are the same old Jets until we tell you you’re not. You work for us. Don’t tell us we’re not the same old Jets. I hope Aaron because I do believe in you. Believe it or not, I do believe in Aaron Glenn. I hope that three weeks from now you can go into one of these press conferences and say, “I told you so.” when you have every right to, but until you win a freaking game, I don’t want to hear it. Is that not fair? No, it’s very fair because the Jets had every reason to to bow out of this game. I’ll give them credit because early on or really 3/4 of the way through it was over. They were getting blown out, teach. It wasn’t even a possibility that this team would come back. But then they fought and then they found ways. Now, part of it was because Todd BS was playing a little a little prevent defense. Let’s just not give up big plays. make make them earn their yardage and then if they’re going to score, let them score on their own time. We we trust in Baker to do whatever Baker needs to do to get us back in position to win this game. And that’s ultimately what what happened. They blocked that ext that field goal attempt uh with two minutes to go in the game. And it’s and I didn’t see this live. I was I was obviously preparing for the Giants game, but as I saw this happen uh in replay, the first thing that came to my mind cuz I’m watching it clean. I know what score was. I know they lost, but I’m watching it clean was, man, that’s too much time cuz we saw this two weeks. We saw this last week. Of course, Todd BS allowed allowed the opponent to score so that he could have the ball with 40 something seconds left and go down the field and Baker Mayfield would get in position to to kick a game-winning field goal. The exact thing happened. The truth is two minutes off the clock and you couldn’t do a thing about it. And as great as we want to think S Gardner is, he got beat time after time after time. The the reality is this. There was a minute 40 to go after the excitement of the McDonald return, which I had too. Like I jumped out of my chair. I was great. It was an incredible play. It was a shocking play. The fact the Jets took the lead, stunning turn of events. Once you sit back down in your chair and you see a buck 41 to go, we all know there’s too much time. But here’s the reality about the New York Jet defense. 141 was too much time. I got news for you. 41 seconds would have been too much time. 30 seconds would have been too much time. 20 seconds would have been too much time because on that final drive, on the first play, Baker Mayfield had an open receiver. He just missed him. 30 yards down the field. On the second play, he found a Buka for 30 yards. On the third play, he found again, but luckily by the grace of God, he was slightly out of bounds. And on the fourth play, your boy Sherling Sterling Shepard went 25 plus yards. The defense had no shot. Yeah, the defense was Swiss cheese. So, was a minute 40 too much time? Oh, sure it was. So would a 40 seconds. So would a 30 seconds. So would a 20 seconds. It all would have been too much time for this overrated defense. So I don’t want to hear it. I’m I’m I’m sorry. I’m so sick and tired of Well, but this was good. That was good. The Giants are losers. The Jets are losers until they’re not. And I hope we’re sitting here one of these Mondays and we’re happy and we’re talking about them not being losers. But until otherwise, they’re losers. That’s what we watch every Sunday. And you know what? That makes all of us even bigger losers cuz we pay the money. We invest the time. And we sit there week after week after week asking, “How are you going to cause us pain this Sunday?” The Jets killed Carl. I mean, I hate all of it. And the Mets, you’re lucky because they’re live biggest losers of them all sitting there blowing a wild card lead. So other than that, Tiki, how was your weekend? Fantastic. I got my 10 mile run in. That’s great. I’m glad to hear [Music]
Evan & Tiki open the show after a brutal weekend for New York sports. The Jets blow another winnable game to Tampa, the Giants collapse on Sunday Night Football against the Chiefs, and the Mets are in the middle of a historic choke. Evan goes OFF on the “Same Old Jets” narrative, the Giants’ lack of playmakers, and why Russell Wilson looks completely washed.
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33 comments
Thank you for saying that Evan! We have to be honest about mets giants and jets they do not win until they win. Jets and giants blew leads in games jets late and the mets blew wildcard lead. All these teams stink. Yankees do not. Even the Knicks this year blew a lead against pacers they have not won since 73. Unbelievable.
I figured it out! Demote Joe & Brian and then hire Belichek as GM to hold them accountable. This will allow Daboll to coach up his QB.
The players can't quit at the half and neither should the fans.
As a fan Evan is truly disgusted, yet as a commentator, it’s great for ratings
As a Jet / Met player, they truly care about winning, yet they still make Millions
Us fans are the ones in MOST MISERY
Both team s owners only care about profit, not winning.
Thanks for yet another 10 loss season!!!!!!
"well put together roster" c'mon tiki don't be so obvious. Don't have to say that and then say the players are at fault but the GM did his job. Sad
Kd still playing at a elite level dude averaged 27ppg last season
True Carter hasn’t been anything special just looks like another player 🤣
I hate the dart ruined talk Russ is already playing bad what if dart actually could produce a good season we’ve seen it done before Jayden, CJ it’s possible do something!!
I was actually looking forward to winston with this offense …..but it wouldnt mstter if elway was in there with that horrible playcall
Daboll has been given this reputation that he's an offensive/QB guru, but turns out he's not. as proof, players and teams improve after they leave him or he leaves. he's one of those guys that have benefitted by being around great coaches and players, not the other way around.
Never ever ever supposed to give the chiefs the ball back before half
The fans should chill! Dart is human and needs to be put in when he is ready! Like next week! 😂
Dabol has to go ;!!!;;
Tiki can you please coach ..ty for taking my call tiki
the wild card is actually between the D Backs and Reds
When you know that your team should be 2-1 instead of 0-3, you realize they don’t know how to win.
3 and 0 in New York, 0 and 6 in New Jersey.
Tyrol Taylor, Justin Fields and Russell Wilson how could you expect anything else lol
Knew the game was over after the first drive when had to go for it on 4th cause we had no kicker
I've been a giant's fan for 45 years.I want them all fired the coach the g.M.The defensive coach, the offensive coordinator all of them.I wanna go on.They do have good players.They don't have good coaches.
Not Wilson's fault. Obviously the coaching, look at Indiana Jones. Throw Dart in there and the kid will fail. Everyone needs to go.
I know sometimes their takes are spur of the moment but this was asinine 6:36 Kevin Durant and Russel Wilson do not belong in the same sentence. KD can go to any team right now and make a difference. Still drop you 25 like it’s water maybe 70/82 games at his age. Russ ain’t even doing that for half a season these past 5 years.
Comparing apples and oranges. WHO THE GIANTS PLAYED? Put all those winning teams up against top teams they will be losing like the Giants.
I think this team is alright but they aren’t good. Saying that, they are better than an 0-3 record right now. They should’ve won at least one of these games or at least been more competitive against KC and Washington. Can’t come out and score 6 one week, 37 the very next, then score 9. That tells me coaching is a problem.
No Tiki. Explain why Russel Wilson comes to the Giants and looks like Daniel Jones from last year and Daniel Jones leaves the Giants and looks All Pro this year. Wilson literally looks like Daniel Jones from last year. That's a coaching and organizational issue.
Putting Dart in for 1 play is just dumb..
The giants have dudes. The problem is russ. No passion, no fire, just collecting a check. Put in jameis for a better time
There’s only ONE New York team, the Buffalo Bills!
Same old Jets 😂
You said "0-6" for New York football..you need to pass the Giants and Jets to "New Jersey football" and embrace the only true New York team….the Buffalo Bills.
Meanwhile, Sports Radio ratings in NYC pop to the total fiasco with all the teams.