Cardinals’ Kyler Murray has settled in as ‘middle-of-the-pack QB’ | Pro Football Talk | NFL on NBC

I I know it carries over to the Pete Carol time in Seattle, but eight straight wins over Arizona. And Kyler Murray is now 2 and N career against the Arizona Cardinal. This is a guy who I think and I remember when he came out in 2019, Peter King pointed out in Football Morning in America that I think the number was three total losses for Kyler Murray in his entire high school and college career combined. And that one of the things he’s going to have to adjust to is you could quite possibly lose three games in a month when you come to the NFL. He’s two and nine against one team in his NFL career. And you know, I was thinking of this last night because I don’t know if he’s kind of lost a little of his zip. He he definitely had it on the first touchdown drive when he went down the right sideline. He was moving as fast as he ever has. But it’s kind of like, you know, guys come into the NFL with all this potential and hope and some of them become stars. Some of them never do anything typically when they’re drafted by the Jets. And then there’s the group of guys that just become part of the the group between between 10 and 20. You know, the the Kyler Murray’s, the Jimmy Garopos, the Tuatonga Valoas, the Brock Peries. There’s no shame in that because there’s only 15 guys in the world that can do it better than you can. But I I think we’ve seen Kyler Murray settle into middle of the pack quarterback, based upon his performance, based upon his team’s performance. That’s just kind of who he is. And you have to wonder, you have to wonder based on how this season goes, at what point they look at the balance of his contract and they say, “It’s time for us to go in a different direction at quarterback. This experiment, which is in year seven now, has ended. Mike, uh, first of all, I appreciate you lowering your shoulder and sneaking a jet stray in there. Like, let me just, uh, just put this in a little dig here at the Jets and their their ability or inability to develop quarterbacks. And Kyler Murray, I I I could see I can see a part of what you’re saying, but then last night, you know, he throws two interceptions and neither one is really his fault. They’re both uh they’re both on Marvin Harrison, honestly. Uh Harrison runs the wrong route and Murray throws an interception. It should have been Harrison. Uh but he stopped and he throws it to a defender. And then on the other one, Harrison with the bobble. It goes right to Ernest Jones the fourth. That’s another interception. So I look at decision-m. Do I do I look at Kyler Murray’s decision-m and say, “What’s he thinking?” last night. Not really. I I think uh when you talk about at the end of the half, the play at the end of the half, I think more of that’s that’s play design or OC wants something or doesn’t want to take a shot. I didn’t really have a problem with what he was doing last night. I just thought their offense, they couldn’t run the ball. Uh that’s going to be a problem. They didn’t run the ball well at all. And uh Harrison had his issues until he came alive in the fourth quarter. Hi, it’s Mike Florio. Thanks for watching PFT on YouTube.

Following the Cardinals’ crushing Thursday night loss to the Seahawks, Mike Florio and Michael Holley weigh in on Kyler Murray’s overall body of work in the NFL and debate if he’s lived up to expectations. #NBCSports #NFL #ProFootballTalk
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  2. As a lifelong Seahawks fan, even I think this is an ice cold take. Kyler Murray is always out there trying to make a play. He's shown some flashes of greatness, but the Cardinals usually suck too much for it to matter. This year the Cardinals have a decent roster but just depleted by injuries. I feel like the our defense is really good this year and, down by 2 scores, he still found just the tiniest crack in the door to let the Cards back into the game and tie it up. They should've gone for 2. Seahawks have always been a great last second team.

  3. Murray have never been good. Someone that short it's hard to build an offense around him. He limited at where of the field he can see and throw to. When a defense knows you can't throw there you defense more in the place you can. Sure you can win games but it's hard going. My is like Russ. Sure, with a great team you can cover the flaws. But anything least than great he's impossible to win with. That's Murray. Maybe they can build around him. You never say never. But man, it's going to be hard. He's just so limited as a QB because of the size. Doesn't mean he doesn't have talent.

  4. I don’t have any problem with Kyler Murray, but he wasn’t worthy of being brought back in 2025. The guy can’t even throw two touchdowns for every one interception. Even last year, he proved it.

    Meanwhile, guys like Russell Wilson put up better numbers last year.

    There might be no point in drafting a quarterback in the first round anymore. Instead, the drafts should just go to offensive and defensive linemen, safeties, linebackers, and running backs because they play more games per year and have more years as starters compared to quarterbacks, wide receivers, and cornerbacks.

  6. Year 7 and 1 playoff appearance and zero playoff wins. Yes Kyler is a NFL starting level QB not elite and about average… but at what point is mediocrity good enough… Its playoffs or bust for Murray… He choked it away last year when they were 6-3 and 1st plaice in the division and had an easy schedule remaining. Biggest change to Kyler's game is that he does not want to run as much since his injury a few years ago…He is too short to be a pocket passing QB…

  8. Remember Kingsbury tried to put a clause in Murrays contract that he had to study and stop playing video games? Murray seems happy to rest on his talent and not try to be greater.

  9. Put Kyler Murray on a top 5 team and he may very well be called a top 5 QB not long after, he is as about talented as they get, just stuck on a bad team that has been bad ever since he got drafted

  11. I think what Murray really has done has destroyed this myth that a poorly run franchise can turn it around by landing a "generational talent" at quarterback with the first overall pick. Maybe we can call it the Colts effect since they did it twice with Manning and Luck. But I suspect there was more to their success than just having some superstar quarterback magically fix everything. The Cards, Jags and maybe the Bears all landed this sure-thing superstar QB with the first overall pick and have virtually nothing to show for it. The Browns took a QB first overall and then replaced him with the worst quarterback in the league while their draft pick has had success with another team. The Panthers were a pretty good organization when they took Newton but are not so with the current ownership which picked Young. If you look at the number one picks at QB that actually did lead their team to success you typically find organizations that are generally pretty good and usually make the playoffs.

    So the morale of the story is that if your team is a hopeless mess and drafting the franchise quarterback is the one move expected to turn it all around, it won't. QB prospects mentored by lousy coaches and playing with lousy rosters made by lousy general managers don't magically become stars.

  12. Bruh stop no he isn't why does NFL start these narratives rather than entertain us with football I could have sworn they were a football league built off football not entertainment😮🤦🏽

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