Should (and could) NFL ELIMINATE ties?
Here’s Brody Brazil. I’m inviting you to call it in and let it fly. If you’ve got something to say, a question, comment, or contribution for this YouTube channel, 8334 Brody’s, where you can leave a voicemail. I listen to all of them and then I play back and respond to the very best ones. Hello, Brody. My name is Durant. I’m from Downey and I recently saw the Cowboys and Packers game end in a tie and I was wondering would there be an idea of doing a field goal shootout in the NHL when overtime ends the shootout occurs and I’m wondering let’s do it with the field goal kickers. I know ties are very rare in the NFL, but let’s put more pressure on the field goal kickers to see they can live up to the expectation to put the game on the line, literally win it for them. Thank you. Hey Durant, I appreciate the call. I know why you called in. You watched Sunday Night Football. You watched two teams score a combined 80 points and it turned out to be a 4040 tie. You feel a little bit cheated by that, right? Actually, when I saw the game ended in a tie, it’s been a couple years. It’s been three years since they had the last tie NFL game. I didn’t forget, but it slipped my mind. Wait, oh yeah, you can tie a football game here in 2025 in the NFL. Should we eliminate ties? Should we do something, I don’t know, a little bit more cinematic to end the game? Should we have almost like a shootout, a kickoff? Well, not like a kickoff to the other team, but like, all right, start each kicker at the 20, then the 25, then the 27, then the 32. I don’t know how you do it. Do you go back and forth? Is that how you end a football game? Is that a proper way to end a football game? Fortunately, we don’t have to worry about this too much. There have been several different overtime formats within the last 30, 40, even 50 years. Different durations. Each team gets the football. It can’t end in a field goal. We’ve had a lot of different rule changes happen and usually they’ve lasted 5 7 10 12 15 years and then they change it up a little bit but still no matter all the different OT format changes we’ve only had 30 tai NFL games including this past Sunday since 1974. Like 30 times since 1974 before I was born. Probably before you were born too if you’re watching this here on my channel based on demographics. Not everybody, but probably most of you. Point is, we don’t have to deal with this. Fortunately, the cadence is like maybe once a year. Sometimes it happens twice in a year or then it doesn’t happen in a few years. It happened twice in 2022 and then before last night here in 2025, it hadn’t happened since. So, I feel like if we end a football game in this novelty way, right, where it’s a it’s a shootout, it’s a kickoff, whatever we’re calling it, a kickoff, no kick, shoot, kick, whatever. the fact that there are fewer football games per season. Like if we are talking about hockey, there’s 82 NHL games per regular season. 82. It’s going to go to 84 next season, by the way. That’s a lot of games. And I’m not saying every one doesn’t matter, but you don’t feel as bad if you play three on three for a couple minutes, five minutes of overtime, and then you go to the shootout. We should also mention that NHL games do not automatically go straight to the shootout. There’s still five minutes of threeon-ree overtime and then there’s the shootout, the skills competition at the end, but it feels like with a less volume, a lesser volume of games in the NFL, right? You’re not playing 82, you’re playing in the teens in terms of games every season. A shootout situation, a novelty type situation feels a little bit inappropriate. Now, maybe what you’re suggesting is, hey, still play the overtime, which I agree. If you still want to do a 10-minute overtime, maybe we get it back to 15 minutes. We play overtime. But how about this? Maybe we do just like the the NHL. Maybe instead of, you know, the the current 22 players on the field, 11 on each side, maybe we go seven on seven to try and encourage some scoring. Or maybe we do 10 minutes of 11 on 111 and then 10 minutes of seven on seven to try and break that tie. But it just feels like the less volume of games too that the NFL plays, ties shouldn’t be a thing, right? So, in one way, the NFL playing fewer games, it doesn’t feel like a a a skills competition should decide the game. But also, the fact that there’s fewer games per team per season, that also doesn’t feel like there should ever be a tie. So, for a lot of reasons, football is different from basketball. Uh, sorry, I meant to say baseball with the ghost runner. like they’ve encouraged that in extra innings. All these leagues are trying to find incentive ways to make sure that they can get the end of the game completed in an expedited fashion. I think for football, what I would be okay with is this. To get rid of ties, to make sure that this doesn’t even happen once every year or every other year, play 10 minutes of overtime. 11 on 111. Play another 10 minutes of seven on seven. And if that doesn’t decide it for you, okay, I’m not angry at the kickoff, the shootout, kickoff, whatever we’re calling it. There’s there’s the the debate here. Can you keep playing football? Are you going to tire players out? Are you going to fatigue them? Is somebody going to get hurt? That’s the absolute last thing I want to happen here. But there is going to always be this argument. Do you keep pushing them to get to a conclusion of the game versus some kind of, hey, just do a do a home run derby to end this? Like the Pioneer League of Independent Baseball, they do a home run derby if they can’t break a tie, a tie score in a game. Baseball again, they’ll throw in Major League Baseball, they’ll throw in the GhostRunner. The NHL will do five minutes of OT, three on three, which heavily encourages scoring, and then they’ll go to the shootout. Football doesn’t really have anything. They’ll just play the 10 minutes of overtime and then tie. So, is it worth writing that in the rules to make sure the ties don’t happen? So, I’ve made the case. I think we can add some things to football. Let’s just get ties out of there for good. Do you agree with me? Put that in the comments section below. Also, thumbs up. While you’re down there, don’t forget to subscribe to this channel. I would love to see you back here next time.
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While the saying “win, lose or draw” is often used as a throwaway phrase from sports figures, it applies to regular-season games in the NFL, as they can end in a tie. Tie games in the NFL are a rarity, but they are not a completely uncommon ending to an overtime period.
The NFL has ties as a way to end regular-season games that end with teams having an equal score.
Ties in the NFL are a part of the league’s overtime rules. These rules have been amended for the prioritization of player safety. The potential of a game ending in a tie ensures that contests last no longer than 70 minutes.
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21 comments
Why Americans are the only ones in the world that bothers about ties
I think the NFL should do what college does in overtime format
I feel as if there's only goin to be change to the overtime rules in the NFL if it keeps happening regularly & ultimately costs a team a playoff spot like the eagles, Chiefs, or cowboys
Ties aren’t evil. But if you want a rule change to lower the chance of a tie: if a team scores a td that leaves them one point behind in the last two minutes of the game, or in overtime, they must go for two.
Maybe they should change overtime how the CFL does it each team gets one possession and if still tied then it'll go into the next possession there no game clock in overtime and in playoffs the possession will continue until someone wins
7-7 football seems like NFL Blitz
Yes in the regular season.
The Tie makes the playoff equations interesting at the end. The Tie after 5 quarters is a good ending. The Playoffs play to an end.
Just keep playing until there's a winner. This isn't baseball or hockey, where you might have a game the next day. You usually have 6 days off to recover. It's so rare anyway.
Let people go home, it's late as it is.
They went to the 10 minute OT over injury concerns. There is no way they will go to potentially 20 minutes of OT before resorting to some kind of gimmick. The $$ tied up in player contracts is too big for the teams or players to willingly accept more potential risk.
Ties, due to overtime rules, rarely happen anyway, trying to have no ties is a solution in search of a problem
Play a 10, 12, or 15 minute OT with todays rules. If still tied, go to the old school sudden death. Believe me, the players are playing for and want an outcome decision.
Ties are so rare that I don't have a problem with the game ending that way – neither team deserves to get a lose or a win on their record. But if you just have to get rid of the tie, then don't have it come down to just 1 guy where that team can be destroyed with just 1 injury, use the full strength of each team to determine the outcome. I really like the final determiner now used in college – the 2-point conversions; after the 10 minute overtime period, if the game is still tied, run 2-point conversions until there is a winner. To me this allows each team to use their full strength to determine the outcome, whether it is a strong runner, speed around the end, mis-direction plays, a receiver that can out jump the rest of the players for a catch, or a simple pass across the middle – let them use all their options and leave the fans something to talk about for the rest of the week. NOT JUST A KICKER. Right now the Cowboys would probably win every one of them because they have the best kicker in the game (I am a Cowboys fan btw).
The NFL should eliminate ties
Use UFL OT rules after the 10 minutes of overtime. Which if you don't know is a 5 round 2-point conversation from the 5 yard line. Simple
I think ties are fine since they happen SO rarely (less than once per season is honestly not even REMOTELY an issue in need of fixing), but if you absolutely NEED to eliminate ties, I think the best way to do it would be to just eliminate any kicking whatsoever past the OT kickoff. No field goals, no punting, only option is to go for it on 4th down, just the ultimate tug-of-war to see who can push the line of scrimmage into an end zone first (so either a TD or a safety wins the game).
The tie issue was not the issue. The issue is they should go back to 15 minutes in the regular season overtime period. 10 minutes is too short of amount of time they used to do 15 minutes until 2015 when they moved it down to 10 minutes that’s ridiculous. If a team takes the ball. You can drain the clock down for as long as you want, and then the other team won’t have enough time.
The problem with Tie in football is this the playoffs are dependent upon record… so having a tie could really throw off the standings… But a tie in a sport like hockey and soccer, where the standings are arranged by points, is much more appropriate
Detroit fans around me are happy with that Packers tie for now.
Ties in the NFL are stupid.
An idea: if a team converts a field goal on the opening possession of overtime, then the other team has to score a touchdown when its their turn to get the ball. If a team scores a touchdown on the opening possession, then the other team has to score a touchdown on their possession AND attempt a two-point conversion.