Giants Fire Bob Melvin after 2 Seasons (Reaction)

Here’s Prody Brazil. You know, most times when I’m covering a story here on YouTube, I try and take the opportunity to remind you that I generally don’t have a horse in the race. I’m aiming for full transparency, that I’m only offering my insights and opinions and perspectives as they are to something that personally I am not directly attached to. Well, this situation is a little bit different. I’ve known Bob Melvin for quite some time. Got to witness him manage a baseball team in Oakland for a lot of years. Got to see behind the scenes how he did it, some of the challenges you did know about, some of the things you didn’t know about. Full respect and honestly friendship for the now former San Francisco Giants manager. They announced today that they are dismissing Bob Melvin after two seasons inside the San Francisco dugout. And so I just want to say from the very onset here of this video and whatever comes out of it that yes, I may be personally biased, but I also have some deep entrenched feelings for Bob and also the San Francisco franchise. I honestly want the best for both of them and I thought they were a great fit for each other. Now I understand the success that most people wanted and some expected it did not happen this season. But if you look at the last two years of Bob Melvin’s tenure in San Francisco, there were so many other things going on that I don’t know any of us got a real clear picture of how this would have gone if there were another year or two. And this continued. Here’s the statement by the San Francisco franchise. Bob Melvin dismissed. Interesting. They didn’t use terminated or fired or let go. Dismissed is the word they used as San Francisco Giants manager. The San Francisco Giants today announced that the club has dismissed manager Bob Melvin. Quote, “After meeting with ownership, I met with Bob today to inform him of my decision,” said Giants president of baseball operations, Buster Posey. Quote, “On behalf of the organization, I want to express my appreciation to Bob for his dedication, professionalism, and class. I wish him all the best.” Buster went on to say, “After careful evaluation, we determined that making a change in leadership was in the best interest of the team. The last couple months have been both disappointing and frustrating for all of us, and we did not perform up to our standards. We now turn our focus to identifying a new leader to guide us forward.” End quote. And the press release shared on social media here, the quick clip of it, also spells out that Melvin went 161 and 163. That’s just two games under 500, a 497 win percentage in his two years as Giants manager. Let me explain two things here in the course of this video. Number one, the mindset of the Giants, maybe their fan base, and what will continue for this baseball team. And then in just a second, I’m going to just kind of take the defense of Bob Melvin in all of this and why I wish his tenure there would have continued. This is a Giants franchise that across the last four seasons has been almost like so frustratingly tied to 500. This baseball team literally this year, I said it months ago, you watch, they will somehow end at 500. And that’s going to make people even more mad. There’s a lot of baseball teams out there which are ascending. They’re getting better. They would hope and wish to go 81 and 81 because that’s a next step for them in the process. But for the Giants and where they’re at and how they’re built, they don’t want to be 500 anymore. They’re trying to take that next step well beyond 500, get back to the playoffs. They want to be a winning team and a playoff team. And man, they are so tied to being 500. Basically, six games under 500 across the last four seasons. 81 and 81 twice. They’ve only done that twice in the long existence of their franchise. It’s happened twice in the last four seasons. They finished exactly at 81 and 81. So, it’s almost like even when they win game 162 yesterday, it’s almost like even more frustrating that they are now cemented in even more as just a 500 team that they cannot break away from. Last made the playoffs in 2021. That was 107 wins. Brandon Crawford and Buster Posey kind of their their farewell songs in San Francisco. Everybody exceeded expectations. That was lightning in a bottle. Although Giants fans point to that and say, “We thought that was the next step, right? that was under an old regime. Gabe Kappler in the dugout, Farhan Zidi in the front office, they thought that was the answer and the tipping point obviously it wasn’t. But playoffs obviously coming after World Series wins in 10, 12 and 14, playoffs in 16, playoffs in 21. They never got past the DS, lost both of those series. And it’s as simple as that. Like this this franchise and this fan base, they won a crack at the postseason. They had massive turnover last year. Farhan Zidi replaced by Buster Posey basically at the same time last year. And now Buster Posey with just one year of being at the helm of baseball operations is now going to have to hire a new field manager. Right? And that was something we all wanted for Buster coming in was to say, “Okay, you’re surrounded by a ton of experience, a lot of veterans, people who have done this before because Buster is brand new at this. Don’t get me wrong, smart guy, going to do well, surrounded by a lot of talented people. It’s not to diminish Buster Posey in this new role. It’s just to say that he’s still new in this. Made some big trades this year, brought on Willie Adams, signed for Rafy Devers, or sorry, traded for Rafy Devers halfway through the season. And now we’re getting to this point where he’s going to have to go through the whole process of bringing in one of his own in terms of a field manager. That may be something that entices him because it gets to be your guy. Remember Bob was already there before Buster came in. But a lot of people thought, well, Bob and Buster, they’ll get along. They’re of a similar mindset, similar personality. The catching thing certainly helps. But this is interesting now that Buster Posie is going to have to go through this process without a lot of experience before it. He’s been a president of baseball operations literally about 365 days. This is a lot for him to go through in the first go round. At the very same time, the Giants can look themselves in the mirror and look at themselves and be all about the Giants, but there are some external pressures here among the fan base and I think even among the team. How can you not look at what the Dodgers are doing in spending and winning and success and running away with the division? I mean, is the NL West basically locked up for Los Angeles across the next 5 years at least? It’s hard to make an argument against that. I’m not rooting for that. I’m just pointing out the obvious of what a beast they are. How about the Padres’s who are basically doing the same thing. Now, they haven’t had the ultimate results that LA has, but they’re in that same conversation. And then even the Dbacks of two seasons ago came out of nowhere and they’re not big spenders, but they were big winners. They got all the way to the World Series. So external pressures and frustrations definitely mounting for San Francisco too. The only good thing about the NL West is that you can pencil in some wins against the Rockies every single year, but also internally it does feel like a window is open right now. I mean, look at the season that Logan Webb just had individually and you didn’t go out there and bring in Damis Endeavors and uh bring up Bryce Eldridge. You didn’t do all these things to think that your time wasn’t now. So, there’s a lot of feelings and emotions built into the San Francisco situation that quite honestly have nothing to do with Bob Melvin. And that’s where I just want to make these points here in kind of defending Bob Melvin. Two seasons with two totally different front offices. You’re implementing a brand new shortstop. You’re bringing in a player with a little bit of controversy about where he plays first base or dhing endeavors. So, there is there is some uncertainty. There are some things to figure out for this entire team. You almost have to let let the dust settle even when it’s good dust, right? You can’t assume that you just bought all these new things, you put them together, you assemble the toy, and it’s going to be really fun to play with. It just doesn’t always necessarily happen that way. Not to mention, too, that when you go out and acquire Rafi Devers and you have to give up some pitching pieces, your bullpen is not the same. And I do understand there’s going to be a lot of people who say, “Well, Brody, did you watch the games?” Yes, I’m aware of all your managerial criticisms and bullpen decisions. I get it. Sometimes you play the right cards. Other times you don’t. Sometimes you have ample pieces in your bullpen or other places. And you can almost never play a bad card. Again, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn’t. But that’s not the only situation going on here. That’s not the only element of success or not. I just don’t feel like two years and given the transitional nature of the last two years in San Francisco, was there enough runway for Bow or any manager in that position to make their mark? It’s almost as if Bow was just the fall guy. And I’m not here to say that that’s the worst thing in the world. Like that’s part of sports. That’s a terrible timing situation when it happens because managers and head coaches and general managers, this happens to them from time to time. Teams looking to take a step. You’re in those transitional years. You’re kind of caught in the middle of it. And that’s it. They just need a new face, a new voice, a new message, new blood. It’s all as simple as that. The bullpen was depleted this year via trades and injury. And I’ve already kind of covered that, so I’ll leave that one alone. I just thought in a lot of ways you’ve got you’ve got Bob Melvin the the Peninsula native, the PaloAlto product, the Cal product, the giant alumni. Yes, he did manage a lot of years and had a ton of success across the bay in Oakland. He also worked with Mattie Williams at the Coliseum. He brought Matt Williams back to being a San Francisco Giant again. You literally have Matt Williams coaching third base and Matt Chapman playing third base. Oh yeah, Chappie is there largely because he wanted to come play with with Bob Melvin in San Francisco. You’re welcome. And I don’t think you’ve even still seen what Matt Chapman can do in a full healthy productive season. And wait until you get to the postseason with him. So I I felt like for a lot of reasons and ways this just was meant to be. And I know you can you can again go back to, you know, lack of success, lack of taking the next step, u decisions you didn’t like in game from a manager. I get it. But I felt like if you would have sat with this just a little bit longer. I think the the biggest point I could say here. So you’re going to ask me, well, what what did I want? No, I didn’t I’m not asking for Boell to have a free pass forever to manage the Giants. What I am saying is that I did feel like one more year, right? Which they just extended Bob Melvin. Buster Posey within the last month or two, right? Extended Bob Melvin’s option through 2026. And I get it. and it was a streaky team this season. Is that on the manager? You know, I will say that maybe a lot of one-run wins and losses sometimes that can be uh credited to or blamed on coaching staff of any sport or a dugout staff of baseball specifically. But the highs and lows of this year, is that on the manager? I’m not one to ever think that there’s a specific tie between those two things. I just would have liked to have seen one more year. Buster Posy’s comfortable, Rafy’s comfortable, Willy’s comfortable, you add some more pieces where you need it, and then give it that chance. And if next year didn’t work out, if you are really stuck to 500 again, then yes, let’s set everybody free. You don’t have to retool everything, but yeah, this would have been a more appropriate change, I feel like, next year under these circumstances. But this year, too quick. It kind of makes me feel like at some point and it’s his decision to make if Buster wanted one of his own people in there. Totally get it. And I just want to say I’ll throw one more thing in here and it’s hard to talk about BL and then so I’ll I’ll just take BL off the screen for a second. The thought of Bruce Bochi coming back to San Francisco. He’s 70 years old now. Gone through some health problems. And I just want to say on on on two fronts here, love Bruce, too. Great guy, great human being, great at what he does. In the same way that bringing Buster back in because it’s nostalgic, right? Because it worked for Buster as a player in San Francisco and he wanted to come back, which I think is great. I’m I’m rooting for him to do it with this team. There’s a lot of nostalgia built in there. I don’t want people to get too fascinated with the nostalgia of well if you bring in Bruce Bochi they’re going to win three more World Series in five years or whatever. Like nothing is guaranteed on that front or along those lines. Yeah. And and Bruce might be Buster’s person and I don’t know if Bruce can get out of the the Rangers job. I don’t know how that goes. But I just want to say be careful of nostalgia here. I know I’m I’m mentioning you know my personal connection here. You’re saying, “Wait, don’t get too excited about nostalgia. Well, how can I how can I feel this way about Bob?” I’m just saying I feel like he was a good fit for this situation, too. And I felt like it should have just been given a longer opportunity. Sure, there is a little bit of nostalgia there, but I think it’s mostly because the right pieces aligned, and they might too with Bruce or anybody else. So, it’ll be interesting to see where this goes. I think the best way I can say it from the heart is first and foremost, I wish Bo the best. Maybe there’s another job out there for him. Maybe not. Maybe this is the end of the line. He’s managed a lot of teams. He’s had a lot of success. I don’t know. I I don’t know what the next thing holds for him. I certainly hope he’ll still answer my calls and texts and maybe join me here on the YouTube channel way way down the road. Quick chat about baseball. We’ll see. But I obviously wish Bob the best and I wish the Giants the best, too. It’s not that you always have to agree with every decision. I just wish this would have worked out. Let me know what you think in the comments section below. Also, thumbs up. While you’re down there, don’t forget to like and subscribe. I definitely want to see you back here next time.

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Bob Melvin, whose option for the 2026 season was picked up in July, has been fired as manager of the San Francisco Giants.

The Giants were very streaky in finishing 81-81 this season, teasing fans with playoff hopes with a 13-3 run from late August into early September that was followed by a 2-9 stretch Sept. 13-23 that dashed those hopes.

“After careful evaluation, we determined that making a change in leadership was in the best interest of the team,” said Buster Posey, the Giants’ president of baseball operations. “The last couple of months have been both disappointing and frustrating for all of us, and we did not perform up to our standards. We now turn our focus to identifying a new leader to guide us forward.”

Melvin said after Sunday’s 4-0 victory against Colorado to conclude his second season that he had received no assurances about managing in 2026.

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48 comments

  1. WOULD ONE MORE SEASON UNDER MELVIN HAVE BEEN THE TURNAROUND?

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  4. Melvin lost the clubhouse, lost the fan base, and lost the media with his dopey Eeyore act after every loss, every inexplicable error, after every listless flailing strikeout during the great losing streak. He had no answers. Every night it was "Gee I thought the team would play better." and "Gosh, I really was hoping we'd pull it out in the ninth." It was Low Energy Theater.

  5. People like Brazil have been the Giants' problem for years! At least he came out and said
    it in the first 1:35 of this video. They like the "guy" and will support his incompetence, his
    BS year after year. Using their platforms to side step, to ignore, to "re-encapsulate" game
    after game and smooth things out, with the "if" this had happened, THE WHOLE GAME COULD
    HAVE COME OUT DIFFERENTLY! Well, the whole game didn't come out differently and he does
    the same idiotic things in the next game. Not pulling pitchers out. not having the bullpen ready.
    Accepting half azz runs to 1st base. Accepting throwing to the wrong base! Have guys on 3rd
    base less than 2 out and can't get him in, wanting a home run instead of a bunt to score a run
    or move guys up a base. And Brazil…"maybe" this could have happened, "if only" this would have happened everyone would say Melvin made a great decision. Well it didn't! A mama's boy.
    Deflecting from what happened in the game, to what COULD HAVE HAPPENED! Now, will they
    go out and get another half azz guy? Probably! One with "potential" and no real follow through.
    We've had YEARS of the "player's manager" style, now it's time to get a guy who doesn't care
    whether the "guys" LIKE HIM or not! It's time for a guy that will sit a guy down if he can't bunt or
    don't run the bases. Sit a guy down for a half azz jog to 1st assuming a play is "going to be made"
    and it wasn't. Remove a guy that throws to the wrong base! But we know, good ol' Brazil thinks
    these things happen in the heat of the moment and…hey…we'll get the game tomorrow. Yeah,
    well tomorrow finally got here and we're not participating in anything, are we? That's why the
    Dodgers are always there at the end of the season. And why the Giants and Brazil are always
    rambling out another list of excuses…"because he likes the guy".
    Look what he put up…
    WOULD ONE MORE SEASON UNDER MELVIN HAVE BEEN THE TURNAROUND? What CRAP!
    Just ask Melvin to bend over and spread'em and dive in to your heart's delight! He likes the guy!

  6. Managerial hiring and firing in this sport is like 80% Public Relations, 20% Actual Game Management Skills. BoMel seems to be a classic fall guy for a team that wanted to “shake things up” to get some PR (assuming they do in fact bring back Bochy).

  8. I liked and fully supported BoMel during his time as Padres manager. He QUIT on my team, on my city, and everyone invested in the organization so he could get his way in San Francisco rather than work WITH our GM. No sympathy whatsoever Bob. You got what you voted for. Enjoy your retirement.

  9. Well, at least u admitted your bias upfront.

    Knowing and liking BoMel personally would be the only thing that could lead to someone making any sort of defense or apologetics of Sleepy Bob.

    BoMel actually wasnt the main problem for the Giants. But he's certainly not the solution.

  12. Too bad you decided to go to a pay model to get "early" access. Figured you were pulling in enough with the ad revenue. Used to be a faithful viewer of all your content here. Now, all I get is the paid content popping up on my feed. Click on it and get and ad from you telling me to pay you $2.95 a month. I ALREADY PAY FOR PREMIUM! Not supposed to be any further charges or ads. So, so many of these subscriptions these days. No thanks. I get you need to be compensated for your work. No issue there. You are very good at what you do. But come on – you've got to be doing very well with ad revenue. Unfollowing as I'm tired of wasting time clicking on a video I can't watch.

  15. Hi Brodie. Like your content very much. I'm a passionate Giants fan since 1965. I confess to being split on this. On one hand, I was very excited when BoMel was hired. He is a real baseball man with a long track record. On the other hand, there's the streakiness of this year's Giants, which maybe isn't all on him but speaks to a lack of stability, something I believe he was hired to address in the first place. More concerning for me was the absent offense in the second half, excluding the 14-4 stretch. Somehow I see BoMel as a kind of player's manager, not excitable. From Buster's comments, it seems like he wants more of a high-energy, motivating presence. In the end, I understand the decision, the Giants want to be in WIN NOW mode and they felt thaf they couldn't wait that extra year.

  17. The Manager does not throw, hit, run, catch, or play the actual game… with an estimated salary of $4M annually, the Manager's job is to lead the team in their performance – to win games. Period. Bob seems like a great person but did not appear to know what to do to get better performance. I've never seen an entire team slump and rise like the 2025 Giants. From the outside, it appears to be a mental/emotional thing. At the end of the day, the Manager is the responsible party on the team… you cannot fire all the players, so the Manager takes the hit. Wait until baseball expands and there's even less talent on the field. The Giants should have been second in the division this year and sincerely underperformed. I wish nothing but good luck to all involved, but it was time for Bob to go.

  22. Thanks for covering this topic Brodie. Bob Melvin may not have been the answer, but he wasn't the problem either. The Giants front office can take a good long look into their own mirrors to identify the issue.

    What a confusing message the Bipolar SF front office sent to fans this year. Posey in as VP of Operation, Adames signing, Devers trade, extending Bob Melvin, all super exciting! Then giving up on the team at the trade deadline, only to talk about post season hopes late into the season. Like, what?!?!? Time to increase your lithium dosage.

    They indeed had rough stretch leading up to the trade deadline. Management pulls the ripcord on the season and trades away late inning arms. So it should come as no surprise to anyone that even after they started scoring again (I use the term scoring loosely, as this team doesn't score much) ,they were losing games in the late innings. Rogers was a solid 8th inning guy, and I am not saying that Doval was the best closer ever. However, they didn't have the bullpen depth to trade away what talent they had and lost more games without those guys than if they had kept them.

    Firing Melvin was just a means to distract from any scrutiny of the trade deadline fiasco. Just my 2 copper pieces.

  25. Terry Francona got his team into the playoffs with less talent to work with than Melvin had.

    People like Bob and therefore decide, via the halo effect, that he’s a good manager. That may’ve been true years ago, but not now.

  27. Knowing some things about what goes on behind the scenes of the Giants, I am disappointed with Buster's decision to release Bob Melvin. The players were behind Melvin & Posey both 100%. If you ask any of the players about this year, they all blame themselves for their own under-performance. If you look back at teams who traded big in the off or middle of the seasons, you'll see that most did not achieve the results expected until the following year. The Giants organization is listening too much to their fanbase who know virtually nothing about how running a professional sports team works. Now we'll have to wait a couple more years before we see positive results. The Giants now need to hire someone who is completely unattached to the Giants. The "nostalgic" thing is fun, but is not practical for success. That's why police agencies, for example, usually hire a police chief from outside their own organization to bring a fresh perspective. The Giants also released their best mental health coaches before the season, which really played a part on the lack of success this season. Their reasoning was, "we don't need them". Thanks for your great podcasts Brodie.😊

  30. Semantics. Dismissed. Let go. Contract not tendered. Call it what it is. Fired.
    We see this a LOT! A guy gets hired with a mediocre record pct is brought in expecting an instant WS appearance. And then it doesn't go as expected. One bad pitching change decision. One bad PH decision. One bad defensive replacement decision and BOOM!

  32. The Devers trade did not adversely affect the giants bullpen. Harrison was a starter, Hicks pitched worse for the Red Sox. So did Doval. Rogers did affect the team but he is a free agent in 2026 and is open to returning. Bullpen was greatly affected by Rodriguez injury and Ryan Walker inconsistent pitching. Giants need to sign a second basemen and a right hand hitting 1st baseman. Devers needs to go being DH. Plus why have Devers hit 2nd??? Possible players on base when he would be up would be 6, 7, 8, 9 & 1st. He needs to hit behind some decent average bats for better RBI possibilities. Play was too inconsistent, bad running, bad fielding which shouldn’t happen on veteran team.

  34. Three different major slides makes more of a mark than the final record. Early on G’s hit 1st then slide off the pace. Melvin’s approach with Doval showed little appreciation for the Giants’ way of resuscitating good veteran talent rather than baiting reactions.

  36. I agree.. from the outside looking in, it feels more than fair that one more year was warranted to see if this was a fitting partnership but rumors are hinting that there was a disconnect with him and the locker room. Id assume that’s maybe why the plug was pulled this early. Who knows

  38. Sorry, Brodie, but when you know Ryan Walker has been struggling all year, and you kept using him when you're trying to get to the playoffs, that IS on the manager. Not saying that others could have done a better job, but it's clear Walker isn't the guy in those high leverage situations and Bo-Mel kept hammering that square peg into a round hole.

    That, and the bad result, is a fireable offense.

  41. I was waiting for you to bring up the Bochy factor because this is the only thing that makes sense for letting Melvin go. I agree that Melvin likely needed another season to bring it all together and I believe they were willing to give him that, which is why they extended him another year. But then Bochy's contract in Texas was up and he likely told Buster "I'll come back if you want me" and that's all she wrote. I expect that Bochy will be announced as new manager within the next month. Every Giants fan will be happy and optimistic and everything will be peachy heading into spring training. And who knows what players will now consider signing with SF when they learn Bochy is back!?

  43. Good. He was never the right fit. Sure, maybe Kaplar was too inexperienced, but Melvin pretty much has the opposite problem. He was a good manager back in the day, but he has not been successful for a while now, and it seems like he hasn't sufficiently evolved with the game. He's definitely a good baseball mind, but he can also be kinda stubborn and old-fashioned. We need to hire a somewhat younger and more modern manager who can connect well with the players and bring new ideas, and thankfully, that is a recruitment job I trust Buster with.

  44. The Giants were not playing good fundamental baseball for much of the year, and the responsibility for that needs to sit with the manager. Along with the horrendous late season collapse. I’m sure Bob Melvin is a fine human being with a good baseball mind, but the Giants needed to make this change. In hindsight, they should have hired Steven Vogt two years ago.

  45. 🧡🧡ABSOLUTELY AGREE WITH YOU BRODIE!! THANK YOU FOR DEFENDING BOB MELVIN!!!🧡🧡 FINALLY A SOLID TAKE!!! Thank you so much again for keeping it real!!!

  47. there's like a group of managers in MLB, they just go from team to team one big merry go round. Once in a while a new name, not very often, It will be just another re-tread manager.,

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