The Chiefs & Steve Spagnuolo STILL OWN the Baltimore Ravens
The show is starting on time. All three of us are here. We did some audio troubleshooting before today’s show and the Chiefs won a blowout regular season game over a good football team. The only thing that I could imagine overshadowing that would be if Jazz was finally back from the Philippines. Boy, Josh, do I have news for you. Jazz is back from the Philippines. We’re back. Let’s do a show, guys. How’s your marriage? [Applause] I I 7 to 20. That might as well have been 37 to 13. I don’t need any Cooper Rush garbage time in my life. This show’s got plenty of garbage time. I didn’t need any of it on Sunday. Fellas, the vibes have never been higher for a 500 football team. I I got a message over on Blue Sky earlier today uh from a listener who said, “The vibe I’m expecting from Only Weird Games today is this.” And it’s the meme of the guy shaking and spraying a a a champagne bottle and wearing a metal around his neck, chugging the champagne, and revealing that of course uh he’s in third place. That was from uh See Here Type on on Blue Sky. Um, and man, I I’ve never I’ve never identified with that meme more in a positive way where I man two and two, three in one, four and I don’t care. I don’t care. The vibes are so good right now and Oh, Nate, that’s a delightful feeling. Yeah, the weather is awesome. um the fact that we have now seen so much football that at some point it was gonna happen right and you know every now and then everything is perfect. Jawan Taylor no penalties. Jawan Taylor now engaged same day. Uh, you know, did he did he did he wait till he got down on one knee to offer the ring? Or Seth, if that wasn’t the 400th time I’d heard that joke, I would have laughed. A look, that’s like my wheelhouse. Like, if you take away Wait, hang on, hang on. This is important, Josh. This is important for our friendship. If you take away jokes that other people have said many times before, I have nothing to offer. and what I have to offer is already so slim, but it’s the way you say it compared to those other people. Yes. That make yours really shine through. Uh the the the beautiful part about uh him being one of the first people to leave the locker room did like my Spidey senses were like, “Why is Jawan Taylor leaving? He just had an incredible game.” And it’s like, “Oh, his lady looks real nice.” And you know what? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, it all makes sense now. So, look, the the the the vibes could not be better. Um there was so much um feel-good that I was sensing from just a lot of people on the team that like, oh this is like the Iod deal version of the Kansas City Chiefs and our Lords 2025. Oh, this is what it’s supposed to look like. Um, and for the last two days, uh, re-watching the game, uh, getting some statistical insights, uh, trying to project head, of course, for the rest of the regular season. Um, that’s about as good of a weekend as the Chiefs can have considering, uh, the Baltimore Ravens, ladies and gentlemen, are literally broken. uh broken, beat up, hospitalized for all we care. Um you know, because of what we saw with the Chargers, now things don’t seem necessarily so bleak for the AFC West competition. Of course, um you know, I know somebody in the comments said that the Cincinnati Bengals already want this season to end and they already have the same record as the Chiefs. Uh, we watched a 4040 tie for what reason? I don’t know. I mean, thanks. That game was the definition of much ado about nothing. We just go home now. Yeah. No, that was awesome. And I actually, you know me, I’m in favor of chaos. So, I was just like, cuz everyone was so upset about a tie. And I get why, honestly. It was so unsatisfying. But I was like, you know what, man? Just everyone’s mad. Let’s all be mad together. Like, this is fun. You know what? There’s very few things in today’s crazy world that we all can agree on. And so when you get the whole world mad at one thing, you got to ride that wave, dude. It’s like when everyone got mad cuz the lady took the ball from that kid in the stands. Let’s all unite and you know, just hate on one particular thing. Ideally, not a person next time, guys. But, you know, let’s all just be united about something. Um, and that will help the vibes be together high but together low. Low, right? And look, this is something where we could all get upset where there’s no there’s no stakes, you know, there’s no stakes in this. There there’s it’s not going to affect our lives that big of a deal other than we all have to remember there’s a one next to the Packers and Cowboys now for checks notes 13 more weeks. What are we kind of early? It does. It’s bad for the standing aesthetics. That’s that’s for sure. Uh I one last thing uh before we actually start the discussion. Josh, I know guys that when you’ve been a reporter and you’ve been in locker rooms, you’ve been, you know, uh you’ve been in the muck for so long that there are some things that just jump out to you, right? I know that for a while I said the name Jackie Tranquil a lot because of course there were times where Drew Tranquil said look baby get the babysitter you know it’s ring ceremony night or it’s we’re going to the White House or hey Jackie know what’s on the schedule okay that’s that’s all we want to understand and of course Drew Tranler and I are in kind of like you know similar life stages or whatever um and you great guy. Uh, and I hope Jackie hears this. It was, guys, I cannot tell you how much like if you watch Miles Morales, uh, like where the screen just like like I was in a I was in a trance. I was like, “What is happening?” Um, cuz you know, it’s like, “Hey, this assistant coach is leaving. He wants to go see his kids. Hey, this trainer’s done. Hey, there’s Allan Wright. Hey, Alan Wright. Congratulations. Missouri Sports Hall of Fame. Uh, you know, longest tenured employee in the franchise. You know, what in the like a starter leaving early before like we could even get close to talk to them, let alone, holy smokes, it’s not a rookie. It’s not someone who’s like, “Hey, I go I need to go get an X-ray or an MRI, something like that.” No, not like that. fully healthy. Hey man, they’ve been talking about you, us included, for the last three weeks. Don’t you want to dunk on us? That was my thought was, “Hey man, I’m in the paint and I’m Jason Terry. There’s nothing I can do. Come duck on us for five minutes with these quotes, Jawan Taylor.” Like, come on. Um, now he looked really nice. uh you know and it just it just blew my mind. I was like well hey man this is the first game where you haven’t been penalized and you played well and they scored a bajillion points and in terms of people I want to talk to you’re pretty high on the list. Where are you going sir? And uh and so the the only reason why I’m saying all this is because uh I think Jawan’s been probably one of the most professional um just players that we’ve seen over the last, you know, three years where uh as we told you guys in training camp, hey, I had my knee scoped. I was getting that thing drained. My knee hurts. Like basically he came to training camp and said, “Man, I was I was cooked last year and we ain’t have no backups and we still made it to the Super Bowl.” And that’s great, you know, because he needs all uh you know, all the support in the world for someone who’s making checks, no $20 million a year. Is that right? Is that right? That’s right. Things could be worse. Yeah, it could be worse. It could be worse. Uh now, we thought, hey, he might lose a spot to Jaylen Moore. Sure. Jay Lamore got some snaps, you know, towards the end of the Giants game inconspicuously. Come on, man. Come dunk on us. Come dunk on us, baby. He said, “No, I got to get in another stance and I better be on time.” You know who uh did give us a few absolute spinning windmill dunks on Sunday afternoon? Steve freaking Spagnolo, man. Unbelievable Spagster class shows up for Baltimore. Yet again, phrase. Lamar Jackson’s held under 150 through the air. The entire offense was held under a 100 before Justice Hill ripped off the 71 yard that I am not going to call out any particular players, but I saw some players on the field who I hadn’t seen play defense yet this year, and I, oh, okay, you know, it is what it is. Uh, it all I’m sure Spags will talk about it this week and be like, yeah, I wish you wouldn’t have given that one up. And he’s I’m sure he’s right that he wishes that wouldn’t have happened. I couldn’t possibly care less. That football game ended when Cooper Rush entered it. And at that point, this thing was completely in the bag. We’re going to talk about both sides of the ball. How much is real? How much is Ravens? Here’s the one thing I’m going to I’m going to say off the top here, Seth, so neither of you guys have to. And then I want to know what you thought about how the defense actually played. The Baltimore Ravens at kickoff were favored in favored in this football game. They were the favorite on the road at Arrow. Okay. Correct. So, the injuries in game certainly matter. The injury report was long and not long enough for the books to say, you know what, the Chiefs should actually be favored at home here. The the the Chiefs offensive success that we’ll talk about later. You you do when you’re projecting, you want to keep in mind that the Ravens are dealing with a ton of injuries on the defensive side of the ball. That’s a part of the conversation, but there is no part of the conversation we go, well, Ronnie Stanley missed a whole Ronnie Stanley always misses time. There was no Rashan Slater in week one. Like in there, everybody’s got an injured offensive line at this point. And the Chiefs defense going up against the best offense in football through three weeks. The Baltimore Ravens were alone in that conversation, the highest scoring offense through three weeks. I think it was good analysis to say that the Ravens offense was entering that game as the best unit in that game and the Chiefs defense absolutely put the clamps on. Seth, what did you see? Um, I’m so glad you brought that up as as an initial concept in terms of the fact that the Ravens were favored. The injury list was known when they were favored. Yes. Um, by the way, went to IR on like Wednesday. Yeah. This is not They were known that to be missed that they were going to miss and the Ravens were favored and when they weren’t favored by too much, Vegas was putting money on the on the Ravens. So, I mean, they were universally picked to win this game, you know, with the ESPN graphic or the NFL Network graphic, whichever one it is. Like, seven analysts picked the Ravens. the the the the torture chamber people are putting themselves through post ad hoc is the funniest thing to me and is a wonderful demonstration of cognitive dissonance and is a wonderful example of how we as people tend to try to fit new things into narratives we’ve already formed in our heads. Oh no, the Chiefs have taken a big step back. So if the Ravens lose them, it must be because the Ravens are actually bad. And then they try to turn that into, oh well, it’s not that impressive. Here’s the thing. The Ravens in week one, and yes, Stanley Stanley ended up having to miss the game. Big deal. Well, he left the game. That’s a big deal. He got through like maybe a quarter and a half before you could start to tell that it was that it was bothering him. And and the long and short of it is the Chiefs defense. Yeah. Hey, the Ravens had a really impressive first drive. I was like, “Oh crap.” Like that looked rough. And then second drive until they didn’t. It looked it looked that way for a reason. And that’s where Stan It’s not like Stanley left the game and everything fell apart for the Ravens. Everything fell apart. Starting with Spags dialing up a gorgeous blitz that left Bolton just not blocked at all. And straight up the gut while everyone’s in maintaining their rush lanes where Lamar’s got nowhere to go but backwards. and he’s like, “Well, I’ll throw the ball down the field to Leo Chanel because I listen to Only Weird Games.” And I heard he turns like a battleship, so I bet he won’t, you know, make a one-handed pick. Okay, never mind. But this is this is important to note about the Ravens here, okay? They lost Stanley about a quarter and a half in give or take. In week one, against a Bills defense that most people seem to like, they put up 40 and the only reason they lost was because of a fumble, if I’m recalling. Yep. against a Browns defense that is universally thought of as what? Top top five at least. Awesome. Yeah. 41 points against a a Lions defense that everyone was talking about. Oh man, they they really put a lot of pressure on Lamar Jackson. They did a great job. 30 points. And then against the Chiefs, they put up a fake 20. They put up 20 points the same way the Chiefs put up 20 points in the Super Bowl. Okay, that was not real. That was not a real stat. They put up 13 and barely got that. They One of the reasons they only got three of that is because Buter missed a field goal, which Hey, by the way, thank you for giving Harrison Buter another field goal chance or two and multiple extra points. Let’s get that guy right. We’re going to need him. Holy cow. So, and 56 yards isn’t a chip shot, but you lose the benefit of a doubt when you’ve missed a field goal or an extra point in every game. Be all that as it may. The So, that I’m so glad you brought that up first. Here’s the deal. Spags. It’s safe to say at this point, and Lamar can always turn this around in the playoffs if they make it and the Chiefs make it, Spags has owned Lamar Jackson and the Baltimore Ravens in a way that has been repeatable. And I think Jackson’s had one really good game against the Chiefs and Dan Sorson didn’t know who he was covering for half the game and that was unfortunate. Um, but I mean like when you look at and Clark fumbled. Yeah. Then Clyde fumbled. When you look at some of the most some when you look at all the Chiefs Ravens matchups, Spags has by and large they’ve changed offensive coordinators. They’ve changed their approach and Spags has by and large really done a lot of things that just make Lamar struggle. It’s actually one of the reasons I think a lot of Chiefs fans underrate Jackson to an extent when compared to Josh Allen because Spags has not had as much luck against Josh Allen. I would argue that that maybe that does show there’s a little bit of distance between Allen and Jackson that Allen’s maybe a little more schemofroof. Um, and that’s where Spags just always finds something. this time, and this has not been the case every time, the what they did in the 2023 AFC Championship, it wasn’t quite as blitz happy. Correct. That was your guys can’t get open against our guys. Yeah, the AFC Championship game was uh legiously saying, “Nah, we was just in cover two, you know, just variations of it, you know, and you know, cover two, couple man, couple blitzes, you know, we was just Yep. We was just, you know, we told him the coverages before the play, right? basically, which is that’s funny. And so this one was they they did a great job against the run. Um overall, not at first, but overall you saw them really figure out alignments. Spags dials up really good run blitzes. He consistently has. There’s a reason why in an important game, I’ve never seen the Chiefs lose an important game because they just could not stop the run. Maybe the closest they came was against the Bills in a playoff game where the Bills a couple of drives really got going, but overall they just clamp down on the run when they need to. And Dererick Henry’s particular style of winning as a runner does not seem to really shine against the Chiefs because they are a team that generally makes contact near the line of scrimmage. They they they’re more they struggle against guys like a Dalvin Cook who makes that first guy miss or changes that angle a little bit. Henry is more if he reaches that that second level it’s like a 70 yard instead of a 10 yard and the Chiefs just don’t struggle with that as much. Now that’s not saying they’re invulnerable. By the way, shout out to you Jaden Hicks for taking what probably would have been a touchdown and ending it right before the half because man did my guy Derrick Henry have room to roam if you didn’t make that tackle. But Spags deserves all had a one-on-one earlier too. Yeah. Tip and half to guys who tackled Derrick Henry alone in space. Yeah. made made a great tackle. And so with Spags, it was the unblocked looks. I think Bolton had five pressures where he wasn’t blocked. Yes, that is that is insane. And it’s so hard to do. And it’s so hard to do in a way that doesn’t encourage an immediate escape hatch. How many times have we seen Mahomes up against an intentionally unblocked edge or something and then he spins out and now he’s just alone in space with time to survey. Um they weren’t allowing that was that pressure is coming right up the alley at you whether it’s the A gap or the B gap and everything’s contained around you. It was a great defensive game plan and that’s the big thing before we even talk about the offense again. The Ravens were widely considered. They were averaging what 37 a game had played multiple good to elite defenses and Spags and company shut them down. Um the the safeties again played well third week in a row. The safeties overall played well. We had one blown coverage that was Jaylen Watson and that was the only reason they had a field goal drive there was cuz Watson he followed a crosser and then the other crosser got him. That just happens. Watson’s played really well this year so far. That happens. But the the the linebackers overall played well. every level played well. The pass rush, we talked about this last week. It’s not quite as big a deal in terms of whether if you need to answer that call from 1980, it’s okay. You’re welcome. Whether you can get quick pressure doesn’t matter quite as much when you’re playing Lamar Jackson. I do have to take this. 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You have a defensive coordinator that’s going to line you up for the shot and then you have a really nice performance from your mic linebacker hitting those blitzes at perfect times. That to me is is my favorite like relatively obvious example after reading McDall story. My favorite example of seeing scheme meet execution. That’s a great one. Leo on that pick. That’s a great one. Uh and then obviously Nate, as you mentioned earlier, Chris Jones is hopping into this game straight off a plane to a police escort to the stadium to a really nice day. What stood out to you about Chris Jones’s big day? Yeah, he became um quite the subplot and storyline uh you know due to you know him really really wanting to attend his uh aunt’s funeral down in his home state of Mississippi. Uh he made that very clear to the team. um because of his veteran status uh and because of the plan that um you know he and the team put together uh you know it was really I thought uh a pretty good example of like how Andy Reid is a players coach and this is a certain example of you doing that uh given the circumstances uh given the importance he is to the team um the game plan etc uh and everything went very smooth Sunday morning. Um, you know, it was incredibly important for Chris to be with his family. Um, given what his aunt meant to her, excuse me, what his aunt meant to him. Um, he expanded on it a little bit after the game, but obviously, you know, it’s uh this is something for him to go through from a grieving standpoint. And uh in some ways we can watch performances and look at the statistics and in some ways it’s like I’m glad we have eyes and ears uh because he did no warm-ups. Uh you know I think uh CBS with Tracy Wilson said he landed at 240 and he was at the stadium by 257. The game technically kicks off at 3:25ish, uh 3:26, I think, because of a a slight delay in the pregame runup towards of like, you know, player introductions, uh, national anthem, and like Harrison Bucker didn’t know where the football was for him to to kick the ball to start the game. Uh, so there’s a little bit of an equipment issue. So, he puts on his uniform. As I went through it in my own mind before the game, it’s like, how many fluids is he drinking? How many guys are literally trying to stretch him out? Uh, when can he get his wind? When can he actually get his physical like condition right? And you could tell even though he was the one player who generated a pressure when Spags didn’t blitz on the first drive, they took him off the field about the fourth or fifth play and he was just like, you could just see it in the on the sidelines of just like okay like I’m playing football today. That’s right. Uh let me like catch a deep breath. And from the moment the Ravens started their second drive, it does not reflect it in the statistics, but he was absolutely maniacal. Yeah. Like Spags Spags talked about that today, which is nice to see where he’s like like he’s disrupting the play matters and the the only one that people probably notice is that run stuff. But I mean, yeah, he was maniacal. I’m sorry I interrupted you because I wanted to agree with you so much. Yeah, cuz cuz look, man. He said, “You may get you may get me on one screen. You ain’t getting me on two.” All right. And uh Derrick Henry doesn’t quite want to hit this angle cuz I exist, which means it gives the linebackers, it gives the the secondary just a half second more time to close that gap on run plays. Um, and as much as we like to say that Spags has Lamar Jackson spinning, I’m pretty confident Lamar knows where Chris Jones is on important downs cuz that guy, I mean, the reason he fumbles is because Chris flashes in his direction and you could see it like any human being, let alone one of the best football players on earth, saying, “Okay, he’s winning. He’s flashing. Get the hell out of dodge. Oh my god. Why is my own teammate in front of me? And there goes the ball. And there goes the turnover. And I think when you have a really loud crowd, cuz I think Sunday’s crowd was louder than it was against the Eagles, when you have a very loud crowd, a coordinator who is doing stuff that makes you, I don’t know, uh, delay a game. Delay a game. Where’s Where is Derk Henry? It’s fourth and one. Why am I in shotgun? I don’t know what time it is. Oh my god, they’re blitzing again. It’s another rocket. It’s another rocket out of his kester. Throw it to row seven. It’s fourth and one. It’s fourth down. But part of But part of that is because he saw Chris for like two series and was like, “Oh yeah, that’s right. He’s really good.” And I cannot tell what the coverage is. I think I think there was moments where Lamar knew it was a blitz, but he could not tell what covers the Chiefs were in because, and I’m sure you saw this in the post uh All 22, Seth, the safeties were constantly moving, constantly pre- snap. And so, it’s like his mind was like, well, I have to worry about Spags. I have to worry about my own play and my own offensive lineman. He’s blitzing, but I don’t know. Is it zero? Are they is it cover one kind of are they doing are they doing a a a a quarters or an invert or something? I don’t understand. Oh my god. Where’s Derek Henry? He’s on the sidelines. Yeah, I the I I could honestly say I have in multiple games watched Lamar do the best he could under really tough circumstances and struggle. This was the first time I would say like I know at the end of the AC championship he was clearly frustrated because of the interception he’d thrown. Um but he was still I mean he was still game I’m look I’m sure his hamstrings injured but I got to report that he is he could miss two or three weeks and if they lose to the Houston Texans next week their season isn’t over but it hasn’t started yet. Yeah. So, he’s obviously he was obviously genuinely hurting, but even before the hamstring, because the guy we’ve seen the guy play through enough that to think, oh, just being soft, I will say he did look broken’s the wrong word because that would imply that you’re not going to get right. He looked um used a little out of the silent planet language for UCS Lewis fans, he looked bent. He w he maybe wasn’t broken, but the man was bent. like Spags had presented him with a game plan that was a little different than what the Chiefs have done against him previously and you could tell he was shook. I mean I mean Romo talked about on the broadcast that intentional grounding was just an awful play. just awful because honestly he had the angle to throw it away farther up the field and you could tell he’s just he’s just rattled and sometimes Spags is just tough to deal with man like we’ve seen those before. Usually it’s against like the Dolphins and Mike McDaniel or something, but like Spags is a lot like Andy in some senses in that you can tell certain games and this time it wasn’t apparent on the first drive, but it started to become real apparent as the game moved along. Some games they’re just he’s just a step ahead or two. And like again, the easiest example for Andy is the AFC Championship against Buffalo this last year. There’s just some games where you’re like, man, they have a plan that you weren’t ready for, and they know how you’re going to compensate for that plan, and they’ve got a plan for that, too. And it just is constant throughout the game. So, that was Oh. Oh, and by the way, uh I don’t have my left tackle. Uh yeah. And all of a sudden, DeAndre Hopkins cannot get open against Null Williams. And I guess I have Zay Flowers, but like for whatever reason, and this is a coaching issue, not a player issue. Even on fourth and one, why are you guys running so many long routes when you know they’re blitzing? Where is the hot route? Where is the inbreaking route? Help your quarterback. Absolutely. And one of the things that Spags does so well on some of these blitzes, whether he’s calling, and it’s usually some man variant, but he disguises it well. And what you’ll see happen is even on the plays where Lamar checked down immediately or he threw hot really the guys tackled immediately. And that’s that’s the call. You figure out okay what’s going to be hot here cuz we’re going to come he’s going to throw hot and we got to make sure that you are immediately to tackle him because now it’s a two- yard gain as opposed to sometimes when you throw hot there’s gaps there and that kind of stuff. So, I mean, Spags is so good at taking away the hot route, and that’s where it’s um that that’s where you take that another level as a defensive coordinator. Designing good blitzes is great. Designing great blitzes is even better. Designing great blitzes that have protection against the the hot and and sometimes they get got the floor’s done, it is like just that next level stuff. Um he just understands pass protection rules. so well and that’s similar to how Andy understands coverage rules and that’s why in games where Andy has got guys. I mean, he’s just got them. So, that was so much fun to watch. And again, that was against the offense that everyone was saying going in was the best in the NFL by a wide margin and and maybe not too wide because the Bills have looked great, but I mean that was a dominant defensive performance against a really incredible team. And that’s the third week in a row the defense has looked absolutely terrific. And to just add to the vibes thing, the perform the way the Giants, Eagles, and Chargers have all played overall really make you think like, oh, okay, so they their schedule just has been hard, too. that win over the Giants. And now Jackson Dart’s a very different thing than Russ Wilson. But the way the Giants defense looked against the Chargers makes you think, wow, you know, the Chiefs offense in that second half looked a lot better than how the Chargers offense looked like that whole game for the most part. Other than a couple of incredible throws by Herbert. It’s just interesting. So that I mean that’s the defensive performance. How that’s not being talked about more is kind of beyond me. I do still worry about the pass rush. Um, you know, maybe Trey Hendrickson will demand a trade again or something. Uh, look, the Bengals should send him somewhere because he’s not he’s not helping any they got they got a really nice little patch of Flex Seal and they’re sinking ship and they ought to go ahead and try to sell that off for an asset so they can start start rebuilding. Wow. But we as bless us, we spent a solid half an hour first on the Chiefs defense in this game as was the right thing to do. But I am pretty excited to talk about the Chiefs offense. So, take our second break, get it out of the way. We’re going to come back, talk about how the Chiefs offense looked so much better with the return of Xavier Worthy. My name is uh Terrell Jolly. A lot of people call me TJ, founder and CEO of Integrity Capital Management. 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Um, so I I am not really that interested in couching that further. With that in mind, Seth, you’ve got a film review up in the Chief in the North newsletter taking a specific look at what Xavier Worthy brought uh both with the ball and without the ball in his hands. What did you see? Um, you know, the the biggest thing with Worthy is probably going to be the explosive plays. You know, that’s I mean, he brought he had three explosive plays, right? He had one deep ball, then one kind of intermediate pass um that that he took for, you know, I think it was 28 total yards and then obviously that end round or sweep um that went for I think 35 to 37. Explosive plays win. 35. Explosive plays win football games. Those are um that is that is an unbelievably important part. Explosive plays and turnovers. Those are two of the things to look at to figure out who won a game. So that’s the thing that first and foremost he returned. You could see he was very intentional about how he was letting his body hit the ground and he was very intentional about how he was handling contact. My guy Xavier look at me in my eyeball. This is not just for the rest of the season. This is for the rest of your career. Tyler Lockett, this dude like Tyler Lockett, if you go look at it sometime and Tyler Lockett is a great player, has had a great career. Love his game. That man does not take hits. That man, he’ll he’ll try to yak. He’ll try to gain extra yardage, but but when he sees that I only have about a 5% chance of shaking loose at this point, the man goes down, do that. If you are 180 lb wide receiver, just do that. You’ve outrun the angles. Run out of bounds. No one there’s not there’s no points for getting one extra yard and hurting yourself. So, Xavier Worthy, good for you. That was awesome. Let Let me Let me double check again uh exactly what Rocoan Smith’s injury was because that was hilarious. Uh Rocoan Hey man, on the play where I’m doing the end round that may or may not have um strained the hamstring of one Roan Smith, he still saw him and said, “Nah, nah, nah. Yeah, just get out of there. Just get out of there.” And that’s okay. You are not Rasheed Rice and that’s okay. And honestly, most wide receivers if you’re not DK Metaf and it’s not not a corner, live to fight another day, man. Like we we need you fast. We need you available. You’re fine. Now, some guys again. Now, if you’re Rasheed Rice and it’s a corner or a safety, okay, because that’s what you do. Fair enough. Juju Smith Schustster, same thing. Um those guys deliver hits. Um, which by the way, shout out to Juju Smith Schustster who is as wide receiver four, wide receiver five, doing the glue guy stuff, running the picks, blocking like a mad man. He loves every second of it. That man is under zero pressure right now. You can tell how much he’s enjoying it. He’s catching everything thrown his way except for the one crosser that he dropped, but you know what I mean. I mean, he whatever. So, shout out to Guju. As as wide receiver one or wide receiver two, you’re like, “Oh, we’re in trouble.” Wide receiver four or five, we’re cooking with gas, man. That’s great. With Worthy, the biggest thing is the the big plays, of course. However, it’s in the margins where the his value comes more consistently on a snap- by snap basis. His ability to win one-on-one a little bit. Um, which combined with a big play, but what he did to that corner on that 28 yard gain on the left sideline was genuinely mean. Like, I assumed it was a blown zone coverage cuz he was so wide open. He I mean he’s clearly been working on his releases um because he was getting off the line. He got off the line on the boundary pretty well a couple times guys and Mahomes hit him once. Um worthy lost his footing. Maybe it was a little far outside on one down the right sideline. I think maybe Nate it was you that like had tweeted out something like ah not quite in game shape yet or something like that cuz I maybe could have run that down but you got caught up in someone’s legs. That happens. And then Mahomes just barely missed him down the left sideline, which is gonna happen. He looks good on his releases. He’s opening up and that affects everything. That creates gravity. Hollywood Browns touchdown. Watch Kyle Hamilton sprint towards Xavier Worthy. He’s like, and and there’s someone covering not on my watch, boys. Yeah. And then you look, by the way, I thought, oh [ __ ] oneon-one. I thought that was a That’s why I play safety cuz I’m supposed to keep the defense safe. I thought it was a bad throw to Juju Smith Schustster. Honestly, when I first saw it, do you go up for it? Yes. The ball was for him and we were like, “No, no, wait.” And so I’m sure Brown is is happy, but I mean that it opens some stuff up. There was a there was a play to Kelsey as well. I can’t remember exactly when, but you see that effect. Um, I’m so curious what they do with him moving forward because he’s obviously not going to take much contact and he shouldn’t, but that doesn’t stop him from turning just this three- yard little pivot route into nine yards. That’s where the value can come that’s a little more unseen because it’s not an explosive play. But what they’ve had so far this year is Hollywood Brown who’s just not as explosive, also is not a tackle breaker. He’ll catch that three- yard route and he’ll gain three or four yards. Worthy gets nine. Mhm. That matters so much and the way it affects defenses, some of that jet sweep action. It It was just really cool to see between him and then Smith. And I’m not trying to drag us down another path. This is just my final thought on Worthy, but between him and Smith having a bigger role, the offense looked so much more explosive with with those two guys seeing, you know, 20% share of the touches instead of almost none. It is so crazy how much more explosive the offense looked with him out there and with Smith out there. The what we learned is I I just want to start by saying coaching is hard. I I just want to start there. Andy Heck, I know it’s hard. Okay. Ty Kingston. Hey man, it’s hard out here being a coach. All right. Connor Embry, they was flaming you for a while. Okay. But look, it’s hard being a coach. All right, Andy Reid doesn’t have as much time as he used to. So, hey, maybe I should get more wisdom from the head coach, you know? But look, Matt Naggie, he been a head coach. He know it’s hard. It’s hard coaching out here. I think what that game revealed was uh the coaching staff literally doing the job on the fly for three straight weeks versus holy smokes. Half the offense is built around this guy, right? Am I right? This is fun. You know, we can actually do counter plays now cuz this guy is on the perimeter and it’s real nice. Um, we have been wondering if the offense was sort of sputtering or uh had sort of start and stops because of obviously some of the penalties uh some of the lack of separation which I think will happen for most teams when you say take away your number one and your number two receiver. try to bring this guy that’s new along and but you got to do it in like hyper speed because we have no other deep threats. Hey, go hey Taekquin Thornton run all his routes now. Like that’s basically what you said in like the middle of the first quarter against the Chargers in another country. Um, the coaching staff, the coaching staff had to have been like, and look at I know I hear a lot of things. It’s like, hey, whether you want to lie to me, it’s fine. I don’t want to just, you know, we’ll see. I get it. It’s hard. Okay, I know he’s going to come back. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So is, you know, so is Rasheed. I know. But like, hey, man, what I see is what I see. Y’all ain’t looking y’all ain’t looking too in sync right now. Um, the moment Patrick hits Xavier on the first deep pass, I think the entire team was like, “Oh, yeah, that’s right. Oh, that that’s right.” A chunk play where our quarterback hits the receiver in stride and before the ball snap, we know he faster than you. So, like we we could plan around this. Uh there’s a moment and this doesn’t h this doesn’t involve Xavier Worthy, but just just guys go watch. Okay, I I’ve like Don’t worry, guys. I’ve identified it. He’s coming. He’s coming. All right. Based on what I want to do right now. All right. I want us to take him. Okay. All right. Here we go. Okay. Hike. Holy smokes. We got it right. Okay. Let’s see if they protect it even better. Okay. Here he comes. And you know what? I’mma just back on up and flick this thing. Holy smokes. Yeah. Uh he he he he made that he made that completion to Travis Kelce where the defender has literally no shot. And from that moment on, all right, all systems go. I got it all figured out. You know what? Don’t even matter anymore. All right. I got this dude. I got that dude. I got this dude. Okay. Um, we ain’t even thrown to Taekquon yet, right? So, I’mma just Yeah, we we’ll figure that out later in the game. It’s like this is what they’ve been practicing, not that garbage that you saw in the second quarter against the New York Giants. The hell is that? So again, coaching is hard and you’re like, “Oh, wait. We need to get a Travis Kelce bleepole section of the game cuz it’s like, oh yeah, cuz Travis Kelce doesn’t have to go around and say, hey, man, find a freaking play that works because, oh, this what we this is what we look like when we practice what we put on the field.” I was watching that clip right before the show started. I I was literally I was watching that again and just enjoying that the Chiefs have it’s a fiveman pressure. It’s just the five linemen and Mahomes. The Ravens bring six. And to your point, Nate, in terms of how you like pick that up, Mahomes always wants to see the guy coming at him, right? He he just he he just drifts and throws a little floater. And to me, I want to I’m going to bring two things together here cuz my my the thing I wanted to add and I want to Seth and you can pick anything else from the offense if it’s a little more under center that they did or whatever. But I uh I read I read this in uh let me see espn.com by Nate Taylor of ESPN in his postgame. Oh, this guy does great work. Yeah, he does very good work. He seems kind of hard to work with, but his content is very good. Uh, you know, sometimes sometimes that happens, you know. You know, hey, everybody everybody’s not a smooth sail, you know, choppy waters. The great usually have a little grit in there somewhere, you know, and it’s just where do you find it? Um, here’s here’s what Nate included in this story here on uh on Sunday night. Prior to Sunday, Mahomes and I didn’t know this part either. Prior to Sunday, Mahomes had struggled when blitzed, completing just 52% of his attempts. But with Worthy as a viable passing option, Mahomes excelled when the Ravens blitzed, completing nine of 13 attempts for 98 yards and a touchdown, including that one to Travis Kelce. the the thing from this game and I I think it does the sport of football a disservice when we make it quarterback versus quarterback, but I I went to juxtapose the two most obvious things from this game with the respective quarterbacks, the quarterbacks and the defenses they were playing where the this is so this is both a credit to Momes and a credit to the Chiefs defense and a ding on Lamar and a ding on the Ravens defense. But one quarterback looked so deeply unsettled that it just his game never came together and the other Patrick Mahomes looked the most comfortable that we have seen him in a regular season football game in a very long time. Now late last season some things started to sink up a little bit. The playoffs had a couple of those moments. But for so much, especially the start of this season, it has just been this uncomfortable trying to figure out how to make it happen. Bail out of the pocket and do it with your legs. The do it all Mahomes moments were traded in in this game for Patrick Mahomes merely being Patrick Mahomes as we’ve known him over the years where he is just completely in charge of everything happening around him. totally confident in the O line, confident in his weapons getting open and confident in the play calls and confident that he’s eating the defense alive. You you if if you could tell me that I can make one vibes check on a game before it happens. If you said, “Hey, if I say, “Hey, did Patrick Mahomes look comfortable?” He wins games where he’s uncomfortable all the time. But if you say, “Yeah, Mahomes look comfortable all day.” I say, “Fantastic. We are going to also have a comfortable day watching the Kansas City Chiefs.” And it was just it was it was almost overwhelming to remember how how much fun it is when you do have that version of Mahomes where it’s you got him, you got him, you got him, you got him, I got him, Kelsey’s got this fade away and and it’s just it felt unstoppable again at times, which was just an absolute thrill. I made a I made a guttural noise in the press box when that when that play was was completed. when that when that play at the conclusion of that play I made noises one shouldn’t make and I was in a working press box. So look the the the last thing I’ll say the other guys in the press box like Adam never did this. Yeah. Shout out to Adam Tyer. Uh now now now as we as we reset the season guys I’m sure the Jacksonville Jaguars are going to do some some interesting things on Monday. Good defense good defense. Uh creates a lot of turnovers. Seth perhaps the most hilarious objective like if I could enter his mind and I could tell you what was going through his mind. I think I have a good indication. So I believe it’s another third down. I don’t know if it’s on the same drive or not. He kind of gets bailed to his right. There’s a little bit of pressure. It’s not perfect, but it was the first time where I was like, they’ve practice that. That’s what they’ve been practicing. I’ve actually seen those practice reps where see the way I see, man. A couple years ago, you weren’t here though. Couple years ago, we had this guy named Jar McKinnon and he would be like, “Hey, I’m a block, but then I’m not.” And he would just turn, pivot. He’d always be available. He catch everything. Then you know he make the first guy miss. So like and Kareem’s like, I can do half of that. So here’s what we going to do. Every time I go right, you know, I’m I’mma pull your defender. I want you to go with me and then I want you then I want you slide up out. Slide up out there. Give me your eyes. I’mma give me your eyes. We gonna make this thing happen, you know. And for I think a third of a second, if you go back and you rewatch that incredibly frustrating third and six for a defense that is already hurt, broken, and dispirited, ain’t no bleeping way he didn’t did that to us. And Kareem Hunker, how many yards on a broken play that’s practiced for a third of a second, guys? He’s really thinking, I can throw this ball behind my back. That’s how comfortable he was. To Josh’s point, he was so comfortable. He was rolling to his right. He knew Kareem was going to break break uh direction, give himself a throwing a new throwing lane. And I I kid you not, if you if you ask me, and I’m telling you right now, if he could tell us the truth, I’m 95% certain that he’s like, I could throw it behind my back, but let’s not do that. You know what? Here you go. 12 yards. Keep it moving. I am thoroughly convinced that we will before Patrick Mahomes retires see that in a regular season game, maybe even a playoff game. But I think the only way he knows this, the only way he can justify it is if it’s that’s the way to get the ball off, right? Like that’s it’s going to need to be there’s a defender closing in in front of him. It’s the left-handed pass thing. Like he’s going to claim, “Oh, well, I saw Von Miller there about to grab my” And Von Miller to this day is like, “The dude didn’t need to throw it left-handed.” No, at all. He didn’t need to do that. and and I actually I’ I’ve grown to appreciate Von Miller more like the longer with some of the stuff he’s had to say about Kelsey and some of the stuff he’s had to say about Mahomes, but like that I I think we’ll see it. Um with the offense as a whole, it’ll be good to see them against the Jags who have been playing well. They’ve got a good defense. They’ve got a really good pass rush in particular on the edges. And so it’s going to be a much tougher game on that side of the ball than with the than it was against the Ravens. That said, it it’s a good litmus test cuz the the Giants have have a defense that flies around pretty well. We just saw what they did with the Chargers. Um the Eagles have a really good defense and the offense honestly, and we talked about this, if they’re not shooting themselves in the foot, we would be talking about a 3-1 Chiefs team that had wins against the Eagles and the Ravens. Yeah, very very a very high probability of that happening considering how well the defense was playing when they didn’t have a lead if Kelsey makes that catch for a touchdown. Yeah, that that that that was such a game-winninging moment there was they I mean they they take the lead there and it becomes this whole thing. So for me I’ll be really interested in seeing how they build on it because now it’s like okay you’re you’re 500, you’re two and two, you’ve got uh a game against a three in one team and I think is Detroit three and one as well. Um yes. Yes, they are a they’re they’re a really really good team. And then you get Rashi Rice back and so you’ve got a chance here to be 500 or above when Rashi Rice returns after an abysmal start. And this is it. It’s just such an opportunity for them on the offensive side of the ball to show that it’s not a fluke. It wasn’t just because that that’s really where it’s at right now. The entire discourse is well the Ravens were so injured. if you go out there and put up another 27 to 30 against the Jags. I so I actually waited because there’s so many memes that you want to like do, you know, with people rising from the dead. I’m workshopping a number of them. Any chance, you know, to be like, you know, in the book of John. So, yeah. Yeah, baby. Yeah, baby. Keep going. Keep going. We saw it in the second half against the Giants and now we’ve seen it against the Ravens. Now let’s see them I don’t expect them to look that dominant against the non-Ravens, but let’s let’s see them perform consistently well by EPA per play and by success rate. They’ve been a top 10 offense all year and they looked like that against the Ravens. Let’s let’s see it again against a good Jags defense and then the chirping is going to start because no one in the league wants this. No one wants Mahomes and the Chiefs. Now I think there are people that like even like analysts and stuff that love to watch fun offenses. I’ve talked to people they’re like I really want the Chiefs to be fun again. They’re fun to watch, but people that have a rooting interest, people were so desperate for the Chiefs to not three repeat, they rooted for the Philadelphia Eagles and eagerly too. Great, great team, but a fan base that’s despised and proud of it. So, I’m not talking trash to Eagles fans here cuz they’re proud of it. Good. Good on you. Know who you are. These are words of affirmation for them, actually. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That’s You don’t like us, we don’t care. Fair enough. I I got you. Um that’s how badly the pe people wanted this because so now when everyone’s arguing like why aren’t you talking about Jaylen Herz is the best in the end. I’m always just like this is what you were rooting for people. This is what you wanted. Yep. And so nobody wants to see the Chiefs just rise from the dead completely. I’m here for it. I’m like I’m at this like I’m like 70% ready to just like start flipping out a little cuz man they looked good. I just want to see it against a better defense, too, so I don’t have to do the caveats of EPA per play and if they don’t shoot themselves in the foot and blah blah blah blah blah, especially for the tackles against a better pair of edge rushers, because those are a pair of real good edge rushers. And not so coincidentally, and I know we’re going to talk more about this Thursday, the types of edge rushers that gave their offensive line problems last year, power winners. Josh Hines Allen and Trayvon Walker. They’re power winners. That gave them problems last year. So, let’s see what it looks like. I’m dangerously close to being disrespectful of the Jags and I’m not going to do it today, but I might do it on Thursday. I don’t know. The turnover stat like look, we talk about penalties and turnovers a lot. It’s like, well, the Jags creative created what, three turnovers every game this year. Like, yeah, that’s awesome. Let’s see. We have um three completely toothless offenses and the Niners that, you know, are also banged up. It’s like I the the Jags have done the thing where good teams beat up on and take advantage of bad teams and and take the ball away and keep them down. So I I I’m not I’m not at like full-on paper tiger territory specifically because a Jaguar is not a Tiger. Um but I I I’m not in paper big cat territory. I just I don’t It’ll be It’s be a fascinating matchup for a variety of reasons which we’ll get into more on Thursday and a little more on how we kind of build back from here. What this team looks like going forward. two more games without Rashi Rice and then the rest of the season, fingers crossed, knock on wood, whatever you do to make a wish come true. Uh, and then Rashid Rice returns after that. Tucker just said the Jags haven’t played an offense that’s a top 20 team in scoring. I mean, like, and you know, partially it’s because they’ve played a really good Jags defense has kept them down. Partially, the Panthers, Bengals, Titans, and Niners. Hey. Hey, man. Did you know defense wins championships? Um, so look, I mean, that’s what I’ve heard. Look. All right, guys. This is going to be, you know, everybody get get to not everybody get to know the name, but I I did look it up. Do want to give a shout out to Tiffany Hilton. That is the fiance of Jawan Taylor. So, look, she’s the biggest winner on Sunday. uh her man performed brilliantly and then left the locker room not to dunk on us but in order to uh you know get get engaged. Now this is where it gets metic guys as you know some people have asked me you know is that a zipper game you know it’s a little early for zippers but it’s it’s a nice it’s a nice breezy game you know nice little breeze to get you to get you uh going. It’s a Commando game. Is that right? Could it be a Commando game? Like a like a Commando in basketball shorts game? Well, there were a lot of rockets coming out of you know who’s said that. Yeah, there was a lot of rockets coming out of you know who’s kester. And boy were they were they were they lethal on Sunday. This is where it gets madic guys. My dear friend Josh Brisco uh oh had Carrington Harris, my other really good friend asked me uh about Martha Stewart on a live radio station in my beloved time. Yeah, I haven’t listen my beloved town of Kansas City. He asked me about Martha Stewart and I look man, you know, everybody has, you know, tendencies and keys and and uh, you know, a scouting report. You know, it’s hard to change up. You know, not everyone’s Bill Bellichic out here, you know, commanding uh massive respect and being a chameleon from a week- toeek basis. Look, I’ve seen Martha Stewart in person. on numerous occasions. Okay? And when I tell you that anytime I see this woman, um, I revert to, uh, the coach and remember the Titans. I don’t want to see him get another yard. Okay. You blitz every play. Okay. And she’s still sending out thirst traps, which means I still got to engage eight. Okay. When she stops putting the formations out there and the protection schemes and she’s still giving unscouted looks. Well, we’re just going to check to tell you what every time. Every time in game eight, boys, Martha Stewart’s on the field. You know what engage eight comes with in Nate’s house? Cover. Zero. Zero. Eight. Huh. I uh
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28 comments
Nate yelling three plus times a show has to be on next years Bingo card.
Nate, can we just talk and not yell so loud. You do a great job, but listening to the pod with ear buds physically hurts at times
Nate is so obnoxious , loud, rude, please make him stop .. !! always intrupting
Great Chiefs performance. I just worry the Jags may not be taken seriously enough. I think KC’s offence should be able to handle TL. Just beware a spotted kitty banana skin.
Can we turn Nate DOWN about 4-5 levels. PLEASE 🙏
I missed my live peeps
So glad to have Nate back on the show!
I have already heard people saying the Jaguars are going to beat the Chiefs like a drum.
Theyre all mad they put their money on the ravens
The Ravens offense, considered the NFL’s best, wasn’t depleted.
– Week 1: The Ravens score 40 points against a good defense
– Week 2: The Ravens score 41 points against the NFL’s #2 defense
– Week 3: The Ravens score 30 points against the NFL’s #5 defense
Narrative: THE RAVENS' OFFENSE IS UNSTOPPABLE.
I watched only a bit of game film before realizing I had seen the script before.
It was 1994. The script was “Maverick” with Mel Gibson. Adapted to football the script reads: “Now I bring all sorts of plusses to the table. I don’t bluff and I never ever cheat… And I promise I will not blitz for at least one drive.”
Having spotted the Ravens 7 points and charted their plan, Spagnuolo refined his. The Chiefs defense then allowed only 94 more yards before Lamarr Jackson left the game. The Chiefs’ defensive starters held the Ravens to 13 points.
Yall gotta start turning Nate down. Some auto volume adjuster. Something. Dude constantly blowing my ears out compared to Seth/Josh.
Nate's impressions of players that are lost and frantic on the field are truly one of my favorite things in sports talk.
Talk about the butt fumble persists to this day, partially because it was Mark Sanchez. Why has there been no talk about the back fumble being super embarrassing?
Came for the Dr. Devine references. Wasn't disappointed.
Worthy end-arounds hit like the drugs I've never taken, and will never need to, because Xavier exists.
Patrick almost has both at once – a line that protects AND actual weapons 🤷♂️
Nice to hear the love for Jet McKinnon.
Can’t even get through the intro without an ad. What is going on with YouTube?
I like to think of Juju as our mini TE lol
Great pod boys! Nate's on a heater lol. The story of the behind the back pass had me rolling, the buildup was great!
let me turn down my headphones so i don't go def, NATE!
Nate…you're a good journalist, talk publicly for a living…please stop saying uhh sooooo much!
TOTALLY RIGHT BRISCOE!!! 2-2 Never felt better!!
I have never seen such a reaction to 2-2 team? They all know what's coming!!!
Tell your boys at the Mothership Nate!!😊😊
SETH!..Totally right! One left tackle, OMG no wonder we can't move the ball!
Double standard and anti KC bias on lvl3 already😊
Nate Taylor is not funny sheesh, just talk😂😂😂😂😂
Blue Sky? Seriously?