One day on the job, Bloom already talking Marmol extension
October 1, 2025
I'm seriously impressed with Marmol's ability to win his bosses over. Wins and losses, no matter.
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Have none of the people who hate Oli even considered that if a new guy comes in and keeps him around maybe Oli could be the right guy for the job? The default position of a new GM/POBO is to bring in their own guy. If Chaim sticks with Oli maybe take that as a sign that he’s a pretty good manager that’s just had a shitty roster. A roster he has gotten more out of than most people thought possible.
I’m sure all the fans on Twitter will react calmly to this information
Again, the GM is playing with ownership money. They don’t work independently. As long as ownership wants him there, he’ll be there regardless of who is the GM.
Oof
I’m more concerned about them keeping Brown and Blake as their instructors. IF Bloom can show progress this year, the job will be much more attractive to prospective manager candidates if they want to make a change.
I’m just being honest I’d take Pujols or Molina.
That is all…
I really am becoming disillusioned with this fan base. Just constant simplistic lazy takes. Oli Marmol is clearly a good manager and will continue to get better. And even if I’m wrong, it still makes sense to keep him here while they continue to build to the future. Get a grip.
Are we really going to get mad at Chaim for answering a question from the media on his media day?
this fanbase is so spoiled and dumb good lord. three straight years of mediocrity (two of them arguably exceeding expectations) and people act like we have it as bad like idk the White Sox and that Oli is the least skilled manager in baseball
What is wrong with Oli?
He was coaching a team built around Donovan and Burleson as his best players. His pitching ace was Matthew Liberatore. I am impressed he got more than 60 wins much less almost getting 81. Not only that but he was forced to play Walker and Gorman as much as they could play instead of our better players. I would say Oli performed above expectation, with the roster that he had. We also had a very low injury count this year, because he protected his pitchers pitch counts.
It’s the only sensible option. We won’t get a decent manager to take this job until the cupboard is restocked and the player development system is fixed.
Give Marmol a short extension and see what he can do under new management while we fix the bigger organizational issues. Then reassess.
It’s worth mentioning that Bloom was directly asked about this and dodged the extension question. This headline is not representative of what happened (or the piece itself tbh).
Oli has really become the symbol of the complacency of ownership. His first extension came after the worst season in 20 years and now when the org has a chance to show a comment to change the press conference says they keep front office leadership the same and now work on an extension for the manager.
I’m not an Oli hater but I don’t think there are many managers that deserve to have a third contract with any team. Find someone cheaper…
But it’s tough to get excited about a guy who consistently lost to the Rockies.
This is a demolition job. Chaim Bloom is chief engineer, not some messiah. Bochy was fired for a bad season after three seasons where he won a WS. Make it make sense.
I’m loving the schadenfreude here. All the armchair GMs that thought Mo was an idiot and Oli is a shitty manager can’t understand it. Most of you people weren’t going to be happy unless they razed the stadium and started everything over. You’ve gotten to a point you hate everything except maybe the jerseys. Nothing can be correct about this formula according to some here. I love it.
I hated oli during the TON drama because don’t air dirty laundry, but he’s been a good manager. Keep the clubhouse talk in the clubhouse though
Homegrown guy, made chicken salad out of chicken shit the last few years. Stability at the helm during a roster overhaul is a wise choice imo.
If Bloom wants to be full analytics, it doesn’t matter who the manager is so long as they are implementing the data nerds inputs and suggestions
Oli is not a bad manager. Is he top tier? No but he’s above average imo
When are they going to hire someone who can get the best out of people? Walker, Gorman, Scott – none of appear to be able to hit major league pitching in St. Louis. But send them off to another team and boom! They’ll find their stroke.
Patience
This is the equivalent of a Jeff Fischer extension prior to, but with knowledge of, the Rams moving back to LA. They will not fire him for teams performance knowing they are entering a phase of less spending and a looming work stoppage. Anyone here or elsewhere expecting better things acutely or for him to be sent packing is delusional.
Oli needs ro go, just to cleanse this organization of everything having to do with Mo.
New leadership and a new manager like Pujols are what is needed to cleanse the pallet and get the fans back behind the organization. Nobody wants to come watch Oli fail to reach .500 again
Marmol made some rookie mistakes early, especially handling Tyler O’Neill. He’s gotten better with that.
I think a lot of the animus has to do with Shildt being fired unexpectedly because he wasn’t going to follow Mozeliak’s analytics-heavy lineup construction. This made him look like MO’s lap dog.
But he has improved as a manager and had a fairly good season this year. But that poll in The Athletic of players saying he was one manager they didn’t want to play for, which may be that early reputation hanging on.
Oli is good at managing the bullpen. His lineups are okay but he can be stubborn about benching veterans that deserve it.
Things that need fixing that don’t require a roster shakeup:
*The base running
*The fielding
*The hitting with RISP
*Putting the ball in play
*Not striking out so damn much (see above)
If Oli wants to endear himself more to Cardinals fans, start here. If the 2025 Cardinals had been better at these intangibles, they probably have Cincinnati’s playoff spot or at least pull dead even with them in the final weekend.
The team is not set up to be able to win. Whitey Herzog or TLR couldn’t win with this team. DeWalt and Mo set up our current situation and I really don’t understand the marmol HATE.
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Have none of the people who hate Oli even considered that if a new guy comes in and keeps him around maybe Oli could be the right guy for the job? The default position of a new GM/POBO is to bring in their own guy. If Chaim sticks with Oli maybe take that as a sign that he’s a pretty good manager that’s just had a shitty roster. A roster he has gotten more out of than most people thought possible.
I’m sure all the fans on Twitter will react calmly to this information
Again, the GM is playing with ownership money. They don’t work independently. As long as ownership wants him there, he’ll be there regardless of who is the GM.
Oof
I’m more concerned about them keeping Brown and Blake as their instructors. IF Bloom can show progress this year, the job will be much more attractive to prospective manager candidates if they want to make a change.
I’m just being honest I’d take Pujols or Molina.
That is all…
I really am becoming disillusioned with this fan base. Just constant simplistic lazy takes. Oli Marmol is clearly a good manager and will continue to get better. And even if I’m wrong, it still makes sense to keep him here while they continue to build to the future. Get a grip.
Are we really going to get mad at Chaim for answering a question from the media on his media day?
this fanbase is so spoiled and dumb good lord. three straight years of mediocrity (two of them arguably exceeding expectations) and people act like we have it as bad like idk the White Sox and that Oli is the least skilled manager in baseball
What is wrong with Oli?
He was coaching a team built around Donovan and Burleson as his best players. His pitching ace was Matthew Liberatore. I am impressed he got more than 60 wins much less almost getting 81. Not only that but he was forced to play Walker and Gorman as much as they could play instead of our better players. I would say Oli performed above expectation, with the roster that he had. We also had a very low injury count this year, because he protected his pitchers pitch counts.
It’s the only sensible option. We won’t get a decent manager to take this job until the cupboard is restocked and the player development system is fixed.
Give Marmol a short extension and see what he can do under new management while we fix the bigger organizational issues. Then reassess.
It’s worth mentioning that Bloom was directly asked about this and dodged the extension question. This headline is not representative of what happened (or the piece itself tbh).
Oli has really become the symbol of the complacency of ownership. His first extension came after the worst season in 20 years and now when the org has a chance to show a comment to change the press conference says they keep front office leadership the same and now work on an extension for the manager.
I’m not an Oli hater but I don’t think there are many managers that deserve to have a third contract with any team. Find someone cheaper…
But it’s tough to get excited about a guy who consistently lost to the Rockies.
This is a demolition job. Chaim Bloom is chief engineer, not some messiah. Bochy was fired for a bad season after three seasons where he won a WS. Make it make sense.
I’m loving the schadenfreude here. All the armchair GMs that thought Mo was an idiot and Oli is a shitty manager can’t understand it. Most of you people weren’t going to be happy unless they razed the stadium and started everything over. You’ve gotten to a point you hate everything except maybe the jerseys. Nothing can be correct about this formula according to some here. I love it.
I hated oli during the TON drama because don’t air dirty laundry, but he’s been a good manager. Keep the clubhouse talk in the clubhouse though
Homegrown guy, made chicken salad out of chicken shit the last few years. Stability at the helm during a roster overhaul is a wise choice imo.
If Bloom wants to be full analytics, it doesn’t matter who the manager is so long as they are implementing the data nerds inputs and suggestions
Oli is not a bad manager. Is he top tier? No but he’s above average imo
When are they going to hire someone who can get the best out of people? Walker, Gorman, Scott – none of appear to be able to hit major league pitching in St. Louis. But send them off to another team and boom! They’ll find their stroke.
Patience
This is the equivalent of a Jeff Fischer extension prior to, but with knowledge of, the Rams moving back to LA. They will not fire him for teams performance knowing they are entering a phase of less spending and a looming work stoppage. Anyone here or elsewhere expecting better things acutely or for him to be sent packing is delusional.
Oli needs ro go, just to cleanse this organization of everything having to do with Mo.
New leadership and a new manager like Pujols are what is needed to cleanse the pallet and get the fans back behind the organization. Nobody wants to come watch Oli fail to reach .500 again
Marmol made some rookie mistakes early, especially handling Tyler O’Neill. He’s gotten better with that.
I think a lot of the animus has to do with Shildt being fired unexpectedly because he wasn’t going to follow Mozeliak’s analytics-heavy lineup construction. This made him look like MO’s lap dog.
But he has improved as a manager and had a fairly good season this year. But that poll in The Athletic of players saying he was one manager they didn’t want to play for, which may be that early reputation hanging on.
Oli is good at managing the bullpen. His lineups are okay but he can be stubborn about benching veterans that deserve it.
Things that need fixing that don’t require a roster shakeup:
*The base running
*The fielding
*The hitting with RISP
*Putting the ball in play
*Not striking out so damn much (see above)
If Oli wants to endear himself more to Cardinals fans, start here. If the 2025 Cardinals had been better at these intangibles, they probably have Cincinnati’s playoff spot or at least pull dead even with them in the final weekend.
The team is not set up to be able to win. Whitey Herzog or TLR couldn’t win with this team. DeWalt and Mo set up our current situation and I really don’t understand the marmol HATE.