Are you blaming LaMelo Ball or the Charlotte Hornets 👀

Are you blaming LaMelo Ball or the Charlotte Hornets 👀

LaMelo. LaMelo. LaMelo. LaMelo to me gotta gotta learn how to turn Mike Ray’s mic off, please. Make guys better. I ain’t listening to Charlie. LaMelo got to make got to make his teammates better. He’s a team of He’s a He’s a great talent. He’s a great talent. But can you guys give Ray the floor? I a get ready to floor, guys. He got the floor. But my my guy that I was going to pick though is K Cunningham, right? Kane Cunningham, I’m rolling with that one. Kane Cunningham to me this year has to do exactly what he did last year and what he did in the playoffs and show his dominance and show that I’m here to stay. I’m one of the best in this league and I’m an allstar every year. Period. I’m with him. Let’s get back to LaMelo though. He said LaMelo. Let’s get back to LaMelo. He’s not making Hold on. Let me ask you guys this. LaMelo, bro. Is this He has to He what the question was what he has to do this year to what? take a leap like you know a lot of guys are great good players but how do you is good but LaMelo to me plays street basketball he gotta go to a new team bro he plays street basketball and you think that’s gonna change I think he has to be more serious about what he does on the court I don’t see that happening right why not I think he already got his ceiling can I ask y’all this I don’t think he can ask y’all this how hard is to play for a team that y’all know ain’t good Charlotte when the last time Charlotte was good right no disrespect guy always says that we already talked it was like 2018 I heard they back go back to the Bobcats. They might have to go back to the Bobcats. Y’all so disrespectful. I don’t give a [ __ ] what y’all say. Y talk about Charlotte. Yo, guys, my fault. Charlotte got me drafted. They made dream come true. Say it. It was 2016. That year 2016 I was still in the league. Yeah, so was I. Just so you know. So was I. I was still in the league when Charlotte was Okay. I was in college. We made the playoffs when I was there, bro. With the Bobcats. I got two keys. That was okay. Okay. You made the playoffs. I can’t remember last time they were like relevant. They were relevant. Kimbo was there. What are you talking about? Was there relevant? They were okay. Damn. You going to do your Yukon dog like? No, they were okay. They were good playoff team. Okay. They were good playoff team. Hey, listen. He got to get out of Charlotte. Okay. So, got to get out of Charlotte to look at get out of Miami. Yes. Get out of Miami. Agreed. That if you’re looking what you’re saying is next step. Next step is traded. So, let me ask you guys this. That’s the next step. Is this is this a big year for LaMelo because of the fact that he’s 5 years in? Oh, why not? Big year for Melo. How much more is he going to do? Okay, but but he reached his ceiling. Guys, how much more is he going to do? Can you let me finish quickly? Finish. What I will what I will say to you guys is you eventually, right or wrong, will be labeled as a non-winning basketball player in the league. Right with Charlotte. And but I’m saying is that a big is that is this a big year for him to like actually be like yo I’m a winning basketball on another team be a no fly zone in New York in Charlotte man y’all keep talking crazy like I don’t got no business in Charlotte I’m Charlotte like that I listen I go Charlotte on top they talk about Charlotte they ain’t been a good team in a long time so y’all don’t think this year matters to him at all it’s not he’s going to if it if it is Charlotte a playoff team right there what are you expecting from Charlotte yeah what are you expecting I’m not saying from Charlotte. What I’d like to see him is, like Ray said, I’d like to see him play. He could take all the leap in the world. My phone to cut you off. He just said he plays street basketball. We all said he plays basketball like he’s playing pickup. I would like to see him change that. I’m not saying I need to play. So, you think that’s going to translate to winning? I would like to see him play start playing winning basketball. Got a decent little young team over there, bro. I’d like to see them play and it is in the East. Guys, holder. Are we okay? You guys don’t want to see him start playing winning basketball, pick up winning habits, but it’s Jaylen Green, right? You’re not expecting anything from Jaylen Green when they was with that Houston team. The next year he played on a team that was actually good. I’m gonna give you a great example. Phoenix was a laughingstock like Charlotte and you didn’t and you did not respect Book until Book got on a good team. What I said is that is that at some point they had to change their play style. Are we just going to excuse Charlotte for the whole time? Look at that team. Look at the team. But can turn my mic off, bro. I’m off this [ __ ] Look at the team. Well, ladies and gentlemen, I’mma take over for all what what are we supposed to do with that? What are we supposed to do? What are we supposed to do with that? Huh? What’s the leap? What leap is he going to take? There’s no leap. What leap is he taking? I didn’t say a leap. Him to start playing winning style basketball. Start to change the culture of Charlotte. I appreciate Mr. Crab. I appreciate you, dog. Bro, you literally said to us two. You lit said to us yesterday that he plays pickup basketball. Does all I want to see I don’t need them to win. I want to see him start actually playing winning basketball. That’s it. You don’t need him to win, but you want him to play winning basketball? I want him to start building habits to winning basketball. Is that not a habit thing? Are you guys going to tell me you just Do you think you can change LaMelo? He’s been LaMelo since [ __ ] high school. Ker, take down the graphic. That’s That’s not relevant here. He’s been the same [ __ ] player. That’s what I’m saying. So, do you not want to see I’m not even saying that. Let me let me put this in perspective for you. He’s not gonna change this game. Perspective for you getting frustrated. I don’t know why. I don’t know why either. Ray, you’ve been on a bad team, CV, you’ve been in a bad time. Exactly. Or did you guys try to build? Did you have a Did you have a rep for yourself before you left the Bobcats? Did you have a rep when you was with Detroit? That doesn’t make them as a bad player. I didn’t say LaMelo can go play good basketball. Melo’s moving the ball. He’s making plays. He’s making taking the right shots. You’re still going to look at Melo like they still [ __ ] suck. Oh, because it feels like he’s playing [ __ ] pick a basketball out there. What’s Melo stats? Give me Melo stats. He got numbers though. Give me numbers. He got numbers. No, let let me get his stats. Let me hear his stats first. He got some numbers. He got some numbers now. He got numbers for sure. Let me hear his stats and then we going to see if he can improve the stats. Yeah, I know. That’s I didn’t say the stats. I never said the stats. No, but say the stats. 25, seven assists, and five rebounds. 25 and seven. 25 and five. What more does he need? He got to get 25 and 10. So that’s not his ceiling. That is his ceiling. How much good team 10 and 10? That’s what you need them average. Listen what? In order for them to win. They’re not winning with him. What I’m saying is [ __ ] kidding me. Melo comes down and he takes onelegged shots. He takes I want to see him play meaningful basketball to try to win. He’s probably not going to win nothing in Charlotte. Let’s be honest. But I want him to play like he’s trying to win. You want to play meaningful one leg shots? I know that’s what I’m That’s part of his game. But he could take some of that that that that playground stuff out and play a different way. That’s all I’m saying for sure. That’s all I’m saying. Let me ask you. And if you take his Hold on, my [ __ ] If you take if you take that playground game off him, he’s averaging 20, not 25. Not mellow. When maybe he averages He’s averaging 18. When maybe he averaged 20 or 18 and he and he wins 20 or 25 more games. Not happening. I don’t I I don’t disagree with what happened. How you know? No, the team’s not good. The team’s not good. It’s not good, right? The team’s not good enough to win, though. I’m going to say this. One word that you said is all that matters. Meaningful basketball. Yeah. If he’s on a different situation, a different a different organization. I I I I have So you basically saying he coming out like I’m just going to get my numbers. He got to got to I think that’s how you have Listen, bro. Everybody on a bad team, Ray, we’ve seen it, bro. Oh, I’ve been on it. We’ve seen it. We’ve been on it. Like, let me ask you this. And I have not talked to Kobe White. I have no idea. Kobe White has to go out there and get his numbers this year to get that extension. They’re gonna be [ __ ] terrible. That’s gonna be a bad basketball team. But he has to go get his numbers. So he This is his extension year. So when you got guys thinking like that, we’re not playing for nothing. What are you supposed to do? Get his numbers. You got to go get those. So can I can I say something? Go ahead. When we talk about winners, right? When we talk about winners, what do you hear about their mentality? We’re changing the culture. Right or wrong? You’re right. So, for you guys to just say he needs to go somewhere else, I think that’s a terrible way to look at it. That’s like that’s No, no. Anyways, you give me the floor. That’s fine. I didn’t say anything. No, I said you’re giving me the floor. That’s fine. Obviously, your body language. Just give the talking. Go ahead. It’s all good. It’s all southern for us to just say he needs to escape escape somewhere else instead of trying to change the culture when you’re a franchise player. Demar Rosen, I’m going to use an example. He said Toronto I got us. He changed the culture of Toronto. Toronto was this franchise. He can vouch for that to the Martyr Rosen and Kyle Lowry came in and said we going to work hard every day. We going to set an example and we going to build winning habits here. You’re just saying it’s Charlotte. Who gives a [ __ ] And that’s what I mean by a winning mentality playing winning basketball. It starts with you. You’re the franchise player. That’s it. So, do you think if I go there as the coach, I’m going to bring in winning mentality. It may take me six years to win. And Melo ain’t it? That’s all I’m saying, guys. I can’t build around him. I don’t need him to be better. That’s what you’re telling me on basketball. I can’t build around a young talented. I’m willing to put I’m willing to put money that he’ll be successful somewhere else. Okay. He’s young. He’s talented. He’s nice. Got all that. That’s fair. I mean, he winning six years. [ __ ] guys. It’s been six years you ain’t gave me [ __ ] He hasn’t been to a playoff once, I don’t think. No, they’ve been to playins, but the team just wasn’t good. They’ve been to two playins and got beat every time and got smoked. They’ve been to two playoffs. Now all of a sudden have a different mindset. They’re going to start winning. Is he a franchise player? But I’m saying no. But Charlotte, as long as what I’m saying is how many years right now he is a franchise player, but but he’s not clearly because he’s he’s not on that team. He is in Charlotte. Yes, he is. No, no, but I mean like Okay. In a winning organization, he’s a franchise player. He’s a franchise player. But what I’m saying to you is with that being said, you’re not going to try to come in and try to change that though. You’re not going to try to come in and do something different. I don’t think it’s in change your habits. Well, certain I’m serious. Whatever it is, whether it’s off the court, whether you come in and you you you work hard on something like I hear you, Ray. I hear you. But his habits, his current habits is what got him an average 256 and whatever the [ __ ] he averaged. It’s how he got him in the league. It’s how he’s been playing. I’m saying he’s straight though. He already signed 200. So you think he signed 200? You think I’m gonna think about winning now? Why not? You got your bread. Got his bread. You you do you do the numbers? I guarantee you he ain’t thinking about the number stuff to get your bread, right? He got his bread now. So now you now you trying to win. If I if I care about basketball, I’m trying to win. Not in Charlotte. I got my money. Even when I was in Charlotte, we got a kick that you know that we got ass kick for four years. But we still was trying to win, bro. Like what you mean? Like I like LaMelo. I I I don’t see Melo going out there not trying to I think y’all I think it’s a part where you keep we’re saying street ball. I don’t go I don’t see Melo going out there and playing street ball. I didn’t say street ball. We said pickup. Ray said street ball. I said pickup. I don’t see him going. Listen, when you’re down 30, [ __ ] are you supposed to do? See, I just think that’s a terrible mentality. It’s a terrible mentality. But god, listen, I’m just telling you this from experience and I’ve seen it and y’all seen it. There are guys that have put in some shitty ass situations. I don’t think Melo Melo has been put in a situation for him to be successful. Fair. Listen, that’s fair. Well, I said my point. You said your point. They need to come hire your boy, man. Come on. Great. Charlie, let me ask you a question. Change the cult. Ask me. You play with Mike James. Sure did. How was that year when he was just chucking to get his numbers? He average 21. The year runner up. No, but how was it? He was 20. He averaged 21 that year. He did. Was it winning basketball? Sure was it. That’s all I’m going to leave it at. Sure wasn’t. I I I I firmly believe you know exactly who I’m talking about. I’m going to stop your argument right there. You know, culture changing. Culture changing is you know what I’m talking about. Culture changing is just not players. It’s coaching. I agree with Monty Williams went to [ __ ] san uh Phoenix changed that whole [ __ ] culture and they started winning and I agree with you. It’s part of it. But I think it also you brought in a first year coach last year. Never been a head coach ever. What do you think he’s gonna go in there and do? He’s gonna go in there and try to be cool with everybody. Nah, you can’t. You gotta go in there as a man. Listen, this is how we gonna do [ __ ] Either you’re with it or you’re not. I mean, at the end of the day, that’s what it come down to. I think if you bring somebody in, bro, Mike Brown went into Sacramento and changed that whole [ __ ] culture. It’s co that the culture part is coaching and you got to have the leadership behind it for sure. That’s where Melo had to step up. If there was a part of leader and like I said, Charles might be a great coach. I’m not sure. I don’t know. But I think that it has to start there. You got to bring in somebody that you know people are going to respect as soon as they walked in through the door. Let me ask you this though, right? So you said first time coach Dwayne Casey was a first- time coach. He must have demanded something. He must have. They won immediately. He got there. So you probably you probably know Charlotte’s situation a little bit. So I can’t speak on that. That’s all I’m saying. thing. I didn’t say lamel’s not do more. I Let me ask I got a question. My bad, hom. Is the NBA about winning or is it about getting your bag? He got his bag though. But it’s about getting your bag for I would assume every person on this couch want to get their bag first. Get your bag first mostly. He got it. Now you think he’s going to have a winning mentality? I mean, I would love for He got his bag. I didn’t say he will doing the [ __ ] that he was doing. I didn’t say he will. I just say I would like for I would like to see that. That’s what I I would like to see it. Me too. I would like to see it. So will LaMelo not be good when I’m like But now you want him to do it after he got 200 mil. I don’t understand. You got your money. So most of the times guys normally like chill when they get their bread. Okay. So when you got your money, you want thinking about trying to win now? Like damn, I got my bread. That’s what I’m doing it for to get that big contract. So now got the big contract. You not you’re not trying to win though. I think it’s different. Not not today. Winner though. You won in college. Not today. Not today. I ain’t say today. I’m talking about you. No, you talking about me. I’m talking about LaMelo. But okay, let’s I’m saying you would you would you want to win? Of course you want to win. Exactly. That’s what I’m saying. So why So why these young kids can’t have that mentality? You getting all this money. So now it’s I just think that the this generation is a little different, bro. All right. I do know that. I’m not gonna put that I’m not gonna put that label on LaMelo though because I think if LaMelo got traded to [ __ ] Houston and he got behind Eay Udoka and played with Kevin Durant, you think he’d still be doing the same nutshell? No, he wouldn’t. He wouldn’t. He wouldn’t. So he need It’s the culture around you, bro. We know that. So So it’s the vets and the coaching. It’s Yes. Okay. It’s the product of your environment. Well, he’s got Spencer over there, so Spencer might change a little bit. No, you need a product of your environment. You need somebody that No, no, not disrespecting Spence. You need somebody like a superstar to change LaMelo cuz right now LaMelo thinks he’s on [ __ ] top of the world. You know [ __ ] Spence tell [ __ ] LaMelo. So you right, right? Like stop it. No, you guys are right. Right. Cuz he he brought up the point his coaching as well. Dwayne Casey’s a nononsense coach. I’m using example I use and Demar and Kyle are no nonsense players. It fit. Right. And Messiah Yajiri is no nonsense. So it made sense. So I get where you guys are coming from there. Just based on what I’ve seen of Melo and I can’t speak personally. I don’t know if he has that mentality and none of us can probably speak on it because none of us have been his teammate. That’s all that we can leave. I agree. I agree with you.

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