Orlando Magic’s CHANGING approach to training camp | It’s about the JOURNEY, not the DESTINATION
training camp for the Orlando Magic is so different this year. Why the Magic are focused on the journey and not the destination. The different vibes at training camp today on Locked on Magic. You are Locked On Magic, your daily Orlando Magic podcast, part of the Locked On podcast network, your team every day. And you are indeed locked on Magic. Today is October 8th, 2025. My name is Philip Rosnike. I’m the senior writer over at Orlando Magicaily.com, credentialed member of the Orlando Magic media since the 2012 season. On today’s episode of Lockdown Magic, we’ve been at camp for a week now. So, how are the vibes different? Why the Magic’s goals are different? Why the Magic are talking about their goals differently and what they intend to do this season, the new mature vibes at training camp. We’re going to dive all into that. Just general training camp big picture impressions today on Locked On Magic. 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Last year during training camp, the Orlando Magic made it very clear what their goals were. They made it very clear what they were aiming for, what they were trying to accomplish with Not not every media availability, but anytime we asked a big picture question, the ideas that they were trying to instill, the motivation they were giving us was abundantly clear. They they laid it out in just plain English. They wanted homecourt advantage. They lost every road game during their sevename series with the Cleveland Cavaliers. They understood that as a new playoff team, they maybe let some games slip in January and February that they shouldn’t. They had that little lull at the end of the season and it forced them to a win their spot on the last day of the season, but b cost them homec court advantage and a confidence level that they believe would have carried them to the second round. The Magic last year went into training camp much more confident in who they were as well as having these very specific goals to take the next step. Now, obviously, things did not work out last year. From the very beginning, five games into the season, a week into the season, injuries completely changed the Magic’s outlook and they were unable to achieve those goals. Um, again, like I would argue with all the injuries that they faced, with all the adversity that they faced, that what the job Jamal Mosley and this Magic team did to get to 500, to get to 41 wins, which was a big deal, to get to the seven seed, to repeat as division champions, to compete as hard as they did against the Boston Celtics in that playoff series. I would argue it was still a moderately successful season, but obviously not the season they imagined. It would be easy to come back and say, “Well, this year we’re going to achieve that. This year we’re going to meet those outside expectations and be the three seed and get to the second round and and and speak of all these goals.” So, as as clearly as they did last year, but that’s not what’s happening at Magic Training Camp. At Magic training camp this year, the Magic are not talking about those big long-term goals. We are in the media like we are mentioning it. We are asking them about it. That’s our job. We’re all talking about the expectations this team faces that they are expected to be the three seed, that they are expected to get to the second round, that they are expected to compete for the Eastern Conference Championship. Like I like I’ve said this and we’ll repeat this before we get to the start of the season. My goal for the Magic this season, advance to the second round and look like you’re on the path to a championship. This is a multi-year journey that this may this may not be a championship season. I’m not breaking any news there, I hope, or breaking any hearts, but we need to exit this season believing the Magic are on the path toward competing for a championship that they’re maybe some experience away, another year of growth and another leap from Paulo and Fron. Like all these things, there’s a lot to learn this season. We’re going to learn a lot about this team over the next however many months. I don’t want to do math because I was told because today’s not an episode about math. Yesterday was our math episode. No math today. Over the next half year, that’s six, seven, eight months, whatever it is. This season, the Magic, and look, we’ve asked the Magic about all these external expectations, and they made it clear. So, I’m not I’m not sitting here saying the Magic aren’t thinking about these things, but the Magic made it clear like whatever your expectations are for this team, the internal expectations are even greater. What’s different is the approach. What feels different this year, and again, what’s publicly stated is different this year, is the Magic aren’t putting a label on success. The Magic aren’t sitting here and saying for us to be successful, for us to take, you know, to take that leap, to to to feel good about ourselves is to do XYZ specific things. They’re not doing that this year. In fact, they’re not taking the beat at all. They’re not putting a limit on the season, as Steve Clifford used to say about expectations. They’re not putting a limit on what they could do and they’re not even thinking about the big picture because unlike the last few years the Magic know and everyone on this roster knows except for Chase Richardson no appenda because they’re rookies. Everyone on this roster knows there is a long difficult road ahead of them. This season is about the destination. Do not get me wrong. Results matter, but the way the Magic are planning to get to that destination, to get to whatever the internal goals are, at least at this stage in training camp, is to understand it happens step by step, is to understand it happens brick by brick, play by play, practice by practice, game by game. They know, especially this time where the Magic have essentially two full weeks straight of practice, something you do not get during the regular season, that this is where the foundation is going to be built for them to achieve their goals. This this training camp is not about their lofty expectations. It’s not about their lofty goals because they don’t want to skip to the end. They can’t. As much as we would love for them to say like we’re going to win a championship. Well, how do you win a championship? You don’t win it in you don’t win it necessarily in October, but you build it in October. You build it with the foundation that you build. You build it with the ideas and concepts that you drill during these practices that you start and begin at this stage. This is where it all begins for the Orlando Magic. This is where it all starts. And the Magic are here for the journey. They are here to take this ride in all of its ups and downs and to be ready for so that by the time they get to March and April, get to those games to March, April, May, by the time we get to that critical point in the season, the Magic are going to be ready. They’re going to be prepared. They’re going to be they’re going to be able and rested and capable of achieving these lofty goals. Again, I’m not saying all this to ignore what this Magic team can accomplish. Again, I believe this Magic team can get to the Eastern Conference Finals. It’s going to take a lot of coming together. It’s going to it would be a little bit of a surprise, but it should not be crazy to think this Magic team could be an Eastern Conference finalist. They got the talent. We’ve seen a lot of promise on offense to think that they can. The question is just how does it all shake out? like how how do they respond to these pressure situations? But the Magic aren’t thinking about that. They’re building the bricks piece by piece. So, what are those bricks that are getting built during training camp? That’s what I want to talk about next. The Magic’s camp goals and how they build into the team they want to be. We’ll get to that coming up here in just a moment. But first, today’s episode of Lockdown Magic is brought to our friends over at Monarch Money. Most people cannot name all their financial accounts or even what they’re worth, whether that’s a 401k, properties, or investments. And when you don’t have the full picture, you can end up leaving money on the table. And nobody wants that. That’s why there is Monarch Money. 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Use code lock.NBA at monarchmoney.com in your browser for half off your first year. And that’s 50% off your first year at monarchmoney.com with code locked on NBA. What does this look like then? Like we know some things that are going on in camp. We know some of the things that the team is focused on. We’ve talked a lot about how the Magic are trying to change their offense, trying to pick up the pace, trying to play faster and and and use their more bountiful offensive weapons and and use their offensive weapons more effectively. That’s that’s all part of what the Magic are trying to do and what the Magic are trying to be. Um, we expect that their defense is still going to be elite. This team expects to be a top five, if not top three defense, if not the top defense in the league. And again, I don’t think I I think we can trust this group and we can trust Jamal Mosley that they will coach a strong defense no matter what they what they do. So like obviously there’s there’s those aspects of it. So, we’re again, we’re not hiding from the basics of what the team is trying to do, but there’s been other elements that the Magic have seemingly been really focused on throughout the course of camp, and they revealed some of them during practice on Tuesday. The Magic are focused a ton on their conditioning. If they’re going to run more, if they’re going to play faster, they need to be able to play through fatigue. They’re going to need to be able to think and make decisions when they’re tired. They need to be one of the best conditioned teams in the league. If you’re not going to bring the ball up slowly and you’re and again, you’re gonna be a grinded out defensive team. You got to be tough. You got to be physical and this team’s still going to be tough and physical, but you got to be able to make good plays and good decisions when your brain wants to shut off. And so there has been a lot of talk and and a lot of conversation it seems like about the team being uh you know again being a running team but pushing the pace getting out in transition. You know being working and moving and thinking faster. Well, you got to be able to to do that late when you’ve been doing it for 48 minutes. And the magic will of course say like we’ve got the depth. Play yourself to exhaustion. You need to come out and let us know. We’ll get someone fresh in there, but play yourself to exhaustion. That has always been a key facet of the magic. The question is, can you do that longer? Can you push that longer? And there, of course, are like two elements to this conditioning thing. There’s obviously the conditioning of we’re trying to get through a 48minute game and make these elite highlevel decisions and be unflapable late in games. We’re not going to have shots that fall short. We’re not going to make silly turnovers. We’re not going to miss defensive rotations late in games. The Magic last year were about 500 in close game situations. You’ve heard me do this spiel if you’ve listened to this podcast, but close games are essentially coin flips. you’re gonna you’re always going to average about 500 in close games. But having said that, if the Magic want to be the three seed, if they want to be the two seed, they got to win more close games than they lose. They can’t be bleeding these close games because at the end of the day, that lesson from that season two years from that from last season, the year before still holds true. The difference between the two seed and the three seed. The difference between the four seed and the five seed. The difference between the six seed in the playin tournament could very well be one game. Could be that game where you didn’t have it that January night and you lost a game to the Toronto Raptor. No offense to the Raptors. Like last year, the Magic lost two games to the Raptors. They lost those three games to the Raptors and the Bulls by five total points. Those three games are the difference between the Magic and the Pistons were seven and six. So, winning these individual games and winning these individual battles are still really important, but conditioning is also about being able to make it over the course of what could very well be a hundred game season. The Magic haven’t had a 100 game season since 2010. If the Magic are going to the conference finals, they’re going to play a 100 games. Wendel Carter said it really well. You use your off season to mentally andly prepare for a hundred game season to be playing deeper into May, June and to to May and June. I remember after game seven in 2024, uh we’re talking with Paulo Benro after game seven and look it was a disappointing loss and all that but we asked Paulo like what did he learn from his first playoff experience and he said very plainly like I don’t know how I would have had the mental energy to do this for two more weeks. I don’t know if I would have been a I’m paraphrasing because of course I don’t have the exact quote but he essentially said like I am mentally drained by this sevename series. The Magic were probably going to get run over by that Celtics team in the second round if they had won that series. But to me, that was like not a stunning admission, but that was the most important lesson the Magic could get out of that playoff series was to tell everyone like, “Hey, you made it this far, but there’s still a whole another road to go down. There is still a long, long way to go.” And so I think what the Magic are trying to do in camp, what the Magic have been trying to build toward is to be ready to take on that challenge, is to be ready to push through that barrier. And when you’re mentally fatigued, when a a playoff series or a stretch of games seems to be draining you, that you still have the energy to lock back in and get back on the horse and keep riding and keep pushing through because again, the NBA season is a grind. The teams that are successful at the highest levels are the ones that don’t get worn down by it, who maintain a consistent level of intensity and energy, who are able to kind of push through, you know, that long road trip in January that tires you out and and and physically wears you down. And and look, it’s going to happen. It’s an NBA season. There are schedule losses, but the good teams limit those. the good teams are able to find a way through those even if you know the mind is always ready even if the body isn’t always always ready or isn’t always willing or isn’t always at peak performance and that’s a big thing I think the Magic are focused on too it’s not just about getting to the end of the 48minute game and being you know fresher or more focused or more into it or however you want to phrase it about that last game in Denver on that long road trip I don’t think the Magic have one of those this year But it’s that last it’s that it’s it’s that game in Atlanta in November. Magic Magic come out that they have three home games. Then they take their longest road trip of the season. It’s a five-game trip. It ends in Atlanta. I you know Atlanta on a national TV game. Very very big game for perception and all that. You know team you’re in the division with a potential rival potential playoff matchup. Huge huge early game. When the schedule came out I saw that game in Atlanta the again I think it’s November. It’s in November. Um I saw that game in Atlanta at the end of that road trip. I’m like it stinks that game’s on national TV because that smells like a schedule loss. You know, you’re doing I think it’s Washington Charlotte Atlanta. So it’s not like you’re you’re worn down. I think they played Philadelphia in that and on that road trip. It’s not like you’re like so worn down, but those last games of road trips are always big. And we’re going to find out very very early in the season just how locked in and focused this Magic team is. And again, I think that’s the big goal that the big goal of this camp is a to to reshape this offense is to is to really test and and grow what this team can do offensively. In addition to rebuilding and and cementing their defensive foundations, it’s also about developing and building championship level stamina, championship level focus, championship levels of battling through fatigue and being the best condition team on the floor. That I think is as important as anything the Magic are doing right now. and and and it’s very clearly a big big big piece of what the Magic are working on over the last two weeks, over the last week because it’s been a week of training camp over the last week as the Magic tried to be ready and prepared for this upcoming season. And that brings me to I think the last big change. This does feel like a new group, a group that knows what’s in front of them and a group that is a little bit more mature. I want to talk a little bit about that feeling coming up here in just a moment. But first, today’s episode of Lockdown Magic is brought to my friends over at FanDuel. 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You can bet on NBA preseason games, which you should not do, but opening night the Magic are favored by eight and a half in their home opener against the Miami Heat. You can get action on that already. Plus, Jamal Mosley is your favorite to win coach of the year. So, you can get all of that on FanDuel right now. So, what are you waiting for? Visit fanuel.com to download the FanDuel app today and get started. Again, go to fanuel.com, bet $5 on your first bet, and if it wins, you will get $300 in bonus bets to use across the app. fanduel.com. Check it out today. It it really does feel like a a brand new day for the Orlando Magic. I I know there’s a lot of the same players and a lot of the same people that have helped build this team over the last four years. Certainly over the last two. Um it is a very very similar roster to what we’ve seen when this Magic team has been successful. And obviously adding Desmond Bane and Taius Jones are humongous additions and the roster will continue to evolve as this team tries to compete for a championship, but I would definitely say there is a different vibe to the team this year in camp. Um, usually like it’s a pretty playful and fun group and I and I think that personality is still there. I I don’t think they’ve lost that playfulness. I don’t think they’ve lost that fun. this is still a very very young group and so I do think that there is still that that little that that youthfulness to it but I also feel like this is a much more serious camp. I do feel like even though the Magic aren’t going to talk very specifically about their goals or what they want to accomplish or what they think they can do, I very much do feel from everybody on the roster that that we’ve talked to that they understand there’s something different about this team now. They understand that they’re not just there, that they’re not just that nice young team. They’re not just that, oh, this is a team to watch. They understand that this team is capable of doing something really special and you know it’s it’s you can be a fun-loving team and be successful. The 2009 Magic proved that. Um even the 2010 Magic proved that. And I think actually one of the things that was wrong about what the Magic did in 2010 was the Celtics kind of took away their joy. And I and I I generally think like the way they lost games one and two, the way they lost game one and they came out and they didn’t do the magic show. Like I I if you remember that I do think that was like, oh no, Boston took away their joy. They’re the Magic are trying to be something they’re not. You still got to be your personality. And and look, I still think the Magic are going to be a very fun-loving group. They’re going to be young. They’re gonna like Jaylen Sugg’s going to talk his talk. Dez is going to talk his talk. Paulow’s gonna talk his talk. team’s going to talk. Fron talks a lot, too. This team is gonna talk and and I don’t want this team to not be that. Um, you know, I I I I I think that I think that like Jamal Mosley talks about a lot. You have to play with joy and especially as like the pressure ramps up, as you get better and better, as more things are expected from you, you got to find that joy because you can get crushed by expectations and crushed by pressure both external and internal. It’s not just us. They they expect a lot out of themselves, too. But I also sense that there is a seriousness to the level a level of seriousness to the work that hasn’t been there before. And again, that’s not to say this team didn’t work before. Paulo is a worker. Fron is a worker. These guy, like all of these guys, the Magic don’t draft people that don’t live in the gym. You know, Anthony Black spent the majority of a summer in Orlando. Jaylen Suggs was in and out of Orlando. He was in Chicago for part of the year. You know, he was all over the place. Um, you know, Paulo we know is going to work his butt off in Seattle. Fron usually does his off seasonasons in Los Angeles before he goes to the national team. He was in Orlando in June in early July before heading out to the national team and obviously we saw what he did for the German nationals. This team, I think, understands the opportunity that is ahead of them. And I think, and I this is this is natural and good. I think last year gave them some battle scars. And and I’m a big believer that you have to lose to win in this league. Especially in the playoffs, you need some battle scars. You need that hurt to motivate you, to tell you like, I need to do more. and how you respond to those battle scars, to those losses, to those defeats. That’s what defines a champion. The Boston Celtics lost so many times in the conference finals. They lost in the NBA Finals to Golden State Warriors before they finally got to the mountaintop. The Oklahoma City Thunder last year, they were one of the best teams in the league last year or two years ago. They were the two seed, I think. surprise team. Mark Danielle’s coach of the year. They get humbled in the second round. That scar mattered. That motivated them. Like they they’re going to grow into this team eventually. But that mattered. The Denver Nuggets, how long did they lose before they had their breakthrough to win a championship? Same thing with Giannis and Milwaukee. You can go back even deeper. How many times did Michael Jordan lose to the Celtics and the Pistons before the Bulls finally got their turn? I do think that the Magic have gotten some battle scars. And that’s good. They’re going to get more. Like, I’m sorry. Like, steal yourself for it now. The seasons, the season might end in pain, and that’s okay. That’s a good thing as long as you learn and respond to it. Last year ended in pain. The Magic didn’t have the season they wanted to have. And like I said, even though I think they did a good job rallying, they exited that season understanding we don’t have enough to compete for a championship. We need to add to our team if we want to compete with the Bostons, with the New Yorks, with the Indiana, with Cleveland, with the elite teams in our conference. if unless we want to just stay as a nice team that maybe has a chance to get out of the first round, we’ve got to change something. And Jeff Welman went out and made the personnel changes out of Desmond Bane and we’re and Tus Jones. We’re already seeing how both of those guys are affecting and changing this offense and affecting and changing this team. But I think more than just adding those players, those personnel add to the strategy and the schematics. But I think more than that, it feels like the Magic used LA are using last season the way they needed to, as motivation, as a push to get over the hump, to to get become a better team. Just plain and simple, to become a better team. This is a team that understands now nothing is guaranteed. That everything every year is earned. That you need to work on your foundations and build yourself back up from the ground up every single year. And that the foundations they’re building now in training camp are going to be what saves them later in the season. Like look what the Magic did in December last year that started in training camp. That faith that that identity that started in training camp until it just became too overwhelming and then yeah like Paulo was working his way back from injury and he was not good for the first month after after he came back and that hurt the team. This team though, I think a they have better personnel, they’re a better team, and b I think they now understand the work in a way that they didn’t before to be a truly great team. And that’s what training camp has really been about. I want to thank you all again for listening to today’s episode of Locked on Magic. You can find me on Twitter, philipr_momd, and on blue sky, phipr. You can subscribe to the podcast on Apple podcast him Spotify Odyssey and all the fun download podcast to your podcast enabled listening device for the latest on the Orlando Magic. Be sure to check out Orlando Magicaily.com. You find us on Twitter daily. And of course be sure to check follow us on YouTube by searching for lockdown magic. Threw it in there. Forgot it earlier. Threw it in there. You can also check out my work at check out my newsletter on the Orlando Magic as well at patreon.comolandom magagicub. Come out every noon. Fresh article exclusive article. It is behind a payw wall, but I but truly supports me and my coverage of the Orlando Magic. Um, so definitely check that out at patreon.com/orlandomagic hub. As always, thank you for your support. Now that you’re done making Locked on Magic your first listen of the day, go make Locked On Fantasy Basketball your second listen of the day. Josh Lloyd hosts the number one fantasy basketball podcast, giving you daily tips and helping you win your league, all while making you a smarter NBA fan. Find Lockdown Fantasy Basketball on YouTube or wherever you listen to podcast. All part of Lockdown Podcast Network. It’s your team every day. That’s going to do it for me today though. I want to thank you all again for listening to today’s episode of Lockdown Magic. We’ll be back tomorrow. We’ll talk a little bit about Paulo and France. It’s been a while since we talked about them. So, we’ll talk about Fron as he gets ready for what we assume will be his first preseason game on Friday. Um we we’ll get we’ll get an update from him as well as talk a little about what’s at stake for Powell Vancero as France Hoger on tomorrow’s episode of Locked on Magic unless something pops up that we need to talk about. But until then for Orlando Magic Daily and Locked on Magic, this has been Phil Broman. See you all again next time for another episode of Locked On Magic.
The Orlando Magic are not talking openly about their playoff goals and ambitions like they were last year. The team knows it will be playing deeper into the season this year, nevertheless. And so the team is focusing its training camp on the journey and not the destination. They are looking to build their foundation in this camp that will last all the way to May and June.
The Magic have taken some battle scars in the Playoffs after last year’s frustrating season. That maturity will also help propel the Magic into a stronger season this year.
Orlando is still building its base and hoping this camp will last them through a long season.
0:00 Intro: Training camp vibes for Orlando Magic
5:49 Magic’s approach: Focus on journey, not destination
17:38 Preparing for grueling 82-game NBA season
23:13 New mature attitude and understanding expectations
28:55 Building foundations in camp for season success
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I hope they know how much the fan base is behind them! Ya gotta tell them Philip!