What would our record be with an extra 90 million dollars worth of players on it?
October 7, 2025
What would our record be with an extra 90 million dollars worth of players on it?
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Who cares? 4 of those players are retired. And the top value gave us draft picks.
Is the hypothetical 90 million used on drafted and ascending players on extensions or on old aging free agents that would be interchangeable with the dead money list?
I’m not asking if we had THESE players on the team. I’m saying that we’re spending 94 million on players that don’t play for us.
What would our record be if we were able to go out and sign an additional 90 million worth of free agents this past off-season?
You can’t pull this thread… every team has dead cap space, what could the bills do if theirs was cleared, chiefs, ravens? Silly question…
I don’t think it would be much different.
The thing is if you look at next year the dead money situation doesn’t get that much better.
1-4…. We had these guys, we won 5 games.
Probably still the same. Some of these players are either retired or regressed as players so no reason to have lateral movement at a cost of an extra 90 million dollars lol.
Edit: Just saw your other comment. Then yes we’d probably improve by a game or 2, considering…
-Loomis doesn’t do anything stupid.
-Filling much needed gaps on the roster
Thomas is still getting paid, wild.
If the saints had 90 million in cap. Our record would be 1-4. Team isn’t a winning franchise right now. We had a coach who never was a Head Coach. What good free agent wants to enter that? Unless we overspent on someone and created a bigger issue. Nobody on the open market changes anything imo
$50M shoulder replacement and youth regeneration surgery on Brees and we go 17-0 with a Super Bowl win 🙏🏼 (I’m delusional)
I mean, blame the injury gods and our medical staff. MT13 should still be beasting out. Honey Badger should still be veteran leadership. Latti was perpetually injured. Ram offended the injury deities in a previous life. Carr got a fluke injury that he probably could have come back from if he felt it was worth the rehab and risk.
The rest are relatively minor contracts outside of Winston, but that was a high risk/high reward signing when it was made hoping Payton could unlock his talent. I didn’t like the signing then, and still don’t, but I saw the merit in it. If he were a franchise QB now and we were paying him 7 million this year, we’d all be ecstatic. Sometimes you swing and miss.
Williams and Foskey genuinely piss me off though. We had no need for an old, expensive RB when we signed Williams – an UDFA could’ve contributed 10x what he did for 1/10th the cost. I’ve commented plenty on Foskey in the past, but his consensus draft ranking was in the 70s and we took him at 40. It’s not fair to speculate on who else we should have taken based on what they’ve developed into, but it is fair to say that he was a glaring reach even at the time of the draft.
I miss MT so much
There’s not much we could have done about Ram and Carr. They both retired.
2-3
Who, the fuck, is Marcus Yarns?
I still can’t figure out how Eagles can pay and hit on players with high premiums and not be in cap hell. They’re paying high end on WR, QB, RB, some OL and several members of that defense. They do draft well, so that sure helps. Ripping off Los Santos in trades doesn’t hurt either. But in N.O., 4 of the top 5 on that list are high salaried players that were injury retirees or just straight up retired. Maybe this clearing of the cap books will help out and they can extend and sign others. However, I don’t want Penning re-signed like Peat. That was a high cost for a rotational starting lineman.
I hated the Taysom contract at the time, and I hate it even more now. So awful.
michael thomas and ryan ramczyk keep me up at night
If we had all those players and they were healthy? Well we don’t draft Banks this year because Ram and Fuaga got the tackle positions. We don’t trade for Vele because we already have CGM. We also don’t draft Shough because a healthy Carr with a good O-line is probably top 12-ish in the league throwing to Olave, CGM, and Shaheed.
So what can we get with a first and a 2nd in this past draft? We can get Mykel Williams or Kenneth Grant, either of which would almost certainly be a huge upgrade over what we have now. In the 2nd round, we can double dip on the D-line with any number of players who got drafted between 41 and 50. Or we could draft either of the OTs who went in the 15 picks after Shough to add depth on the O-line with the plan for them to takeover for Ram in a few years (he would have been in his 9th season this year).
Or we could have packaged #40 and next year’s 2nd to move up to the end of the 1st and drafted Malaki Starks or Maxwell Hairston to beef up our secondary.
With a veteran QB like Carr, 3 good to great WRs, and one of the best RB rooms in the league, our offense probably makes weeks 1 and 2 of last year look pedestrian. With a couple of additions on defense, we have a top 10 squad. We’re at least 4-1 right now with a very good chance of being 5-0. We did, after all, play Buffalo really close without those guys.
Knowing Loomis, we would have probably used that money on three 34year olds 8 years past their primes and made us in the negatives for the next 5 years
Not sure Foskey is helping
A lot better for sure
Let’s be honest… Loomis would spend that money to sign a few guys on the twilight of their career to ridiculous contracts. We have had a years worth of pretty bad drafts, and a longer history of paying guys a whole lot more than what they are worth. We should have drafted a franchise QB a decade ago, and built around him and Kamara when Brees left. Instead when have taken chances on risky picks that didn’t pan out and extended players who were already past their prime.
Just passing through to say the reading comprehension in this sub is very on brand for New Orleans.
If you immediately got the money back instead of a dead hit the day these guys were cut/retired, would the team be a better and if so by how much?
Think over the last few years with guys like Milton Williams, Stefon Diggs, CWard, Joey Bosa, Deebo, Darnold, Davonte Adams, and many many others available as recently as last offseason.
Why you guys think this post means you get these exact players back is only explained by yall skipping straight to the graphic bc you think the characters will invoke a voodoo curse.
Probably the same, the QB situation wouldn’t be any different from what it is now.
Everyone seems to have misunderstood this post lol. This is the dead cap per player. He’s not saying he wants these players back, he’s saying if we had an extra $90M to spend in free agency & stuff without all that dead cap, the team would be a lot better
Jameis is criminal
Who tf is Josh Ball and Easton Kilty 😭
Given the fact that we could have won the previous 4 games, an easy 14-2. Just because a couple of them games are definitely hard but winnable
Broken down MT and Carr? No cap space to help add actually decent pieces, Useless Ram, yeah 0-5
Confident Spencer throwing to Michael Thomas would have been nice.
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Who cares? 4 of those players are retired. And the top value gave us draft picks.
Is the hypothetical 90 million used on drafted and ascending players on extensions or on old aging free agents that would be interchangeable with the dead money list?
I’m not asking if we had THESE players on the team. I’m saying that we’re spending 94 million on players that don’t play for us.
What would our record be if we were able to go out and sign an additional 90 million worth of free agents this past off-season?
You can’t pull this thread… every team has dead cap space, what could the bills do if theirs was cleared, chiefs, ravens? Silly question…
I don’t think it would be much different.
The thing is if you look at next year the dead money situation doesn’t get that much better.
1-4…. We had these guys, we won 5 games.
Probably still the same. Some of these players are either retired or regressed as players so no reason to have lateral movement at a cost of an extra 90 million dollars lol.
Edit: Just saw your other comment. Then yes we’d probably improve by a game or 2, considering…
-Loomis doesn’t do anything stupid.
-Filling much needed gaps on the roster
Thomas is still getting paid, wild.
If the saints had 90 million in cap. Our record would be 1-4. Team isn’t a winning franchise right now. We had a coach who never was a Head Coach. What good free agent wants to enter that? Unless we overspent on someone and created a bigger issue. Nobody on the open market changes anything imo
$50M shoulder replacement and youth regeneration surgery on Brees and we go 17-0 with a Super Bowl win 🙏🏼 (I’m delusional)
I mean, blame the injury gods and our medical staff. MT13 should still be beasting out. Honey Badger should still be veteran leadership. Latti was perpetually injured. Ram offended the injury deities in a previous life. Carr got a fluke injury that he probably could have come back from if he felt it was worth the rehab and risk.
The rest are relatively minor contracts outside of Winston, but that was a high risk/high reward signing when it was made hoping Payton could unlock his talent. I didn’t like the signing then, and still don’t, but I saw the merit in it. If he were a franchise QB now and we were paying him 7 million this year, we’d all be ecstatic. Sometimes you swing and miss.
Williams and Foskey genuinely piss me off though. We had no need for an old, expensive RB when we signed Williams – an UDFA could’ve contributed 10x what he did for 1/10th the cost. I’ve commented plenty on Foskey in the past, but his consensus draft ranking was in the 70s and we took him at 40. It’s not fair to speculate on who else we should have taken based on what they’ve developed into, but it is fair to say that he was a glaring reach even at the time of the draft.
I miss MT so much
There’s not much we could have done about Ram and Carr. They both retired.
2-3
Who, the fuck, is Marcus Yarns?
I still can’t figure out how Eagles can pay and hit on players with high premiums and not be in cap hell. They’re paying high end on WR, QB, RB, some OL and several members of that defense. They do draft well, so that sure helps. Ripping off Los Santos in trades doesn’t hurt either. But in N.O., 4 of the top 5 on that list are high salaried players that were injury retirees or just straight up retired. Maybe this clearing of the cap books will help out and they can extend and sign others. However, I don’t want Penning re-signed like Peat. That was a high cost for a rotational starting lineman.
I hated the Taysom contract at the time, and I hate it even more now. So awful.
michael thomas and ryan ramczyk keep me up at night
If we had all those players and they were healthy? Well we don’t draft Banks this year because Ram and Fuaga got the tackle positions. We don’t trade for Vele because we already have CGM. We also don’t draft Shough because a healthy Carr with a good O-line is probably top 12-ish in the league throwing to Olave, CGM, and Shaheed.
So what can we get with a first and a 2nd in this past draft? We can get Mykel Williams or Kenneth Grant, either of which would almost certainly be a huge upgrade over what we have now. In the 2nd round, we can double dip on the D-line with any number of players who got drafted between 41 and 50. Or we could draft either of the OTs who went in the 15 picks after Shough to add depth on the O-line with the plan for them to takeover for Ram in a few years (he would have been in his 9th season this year).
Or we could have packaged #40 and next year’s 2nd to move up to the end of the 1st and drafted Malaki Starks or Maxwell Hairston to beef up our secondary.
With a veteran QB like Carr, 3 good to great WRs, and one of the best RB rooms in the league, our offense probably makes weeks 1 and 2 of last year look pedestrian. With a couple of additions on defense, we have a top 10 squad. We’re at least 4-1 right now with a very good chance of being 5-0. We did, after all, play Buffalo really close without those guys.
Knowing Loomis, we would have probably used that money on three 34year olds 8 years past their primes and made us in the negatives for the next 5 years
Not sure Foskey is helping
A lot better for sure
Let’s be honest… Loomis would spend that money to sign a few guys on the twilight of their career to ridiculous contracts. We have had a years worth of pretty bad drafts, and a longer history of paying guys a whole lot more than what they are worth. We should have drafted a franchise QB a decade ago, and built around him and Kamara when Brees left. Instead when have taken chances on risky picks that didn’t pan out and extended players who were already past their prime.
Just passing through to say the reading comprehension in this sub is very on brand for New Orleans.
If you immediately got the money back instead of a dead hit the day these guys were cut/retired, would the team be a better and if so by how much?
Think over the last few years with guys like Milton Williams, Stefon Diggs, CWard, Joey Bosa, Deebo, Darnold, Davonte Adams, and many many others available as recently as last offseason.
Why you guys think this post means you get these exact players back is only explained by yall skipping straight to the graphic bc you think the characters will invoke a voodoo curse.
Probably the same, the QB situation wouldn’t be any different from what it is now.
Everyone seems to have misunderstood this post lol. This is the dead cap per player. He’s not saying he wants these players back, he’s saying if we had an extra $90M to spend in free agency & stuff without all that dead cap, the team would be a lot better
Jameis is criminal
Who tf is Josh Ball and Easton Kilty 😭
Given the fact that we could have won the previous 4 games, an easy 14-2. Just because a couple of them games are definitely hard but winnable
Broken down MT and Carr? No cap space to help add actually decent pieces, Useless Ram, yeah 0-5
Confident Spencer throwing to Michael Thomas would have been nice.