Miami Heat: When will Kasparas Jakučionis get the keys? | Five on the Floor

Miami Heat: When will Kasparas Jakučionis get the keys? | Five on the Floor

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You can follow both of us on the Sports Illustrated Miami Heat page. I’m managing that now. We’re both writing as is Alex Austin Dobbins, Matteo Morga, uh, and many others. So, make sure that you check that out. I mean, literally all of your heat content is going to be in one place. Uh, we’re going to be running a lot of it. So, uh, yeah, you’re just gonna hear from us, unfortunately for you, for us, for everybody else, uh, in this NBA space. We’re going to talk about a breakout, a breakout in in preseason game three. Brady has an article up about him here. I’m going to allow him to pronounce his name because I don’t want to throw you off. I already did. Go ahead. Casper Yakonis. I feel like I mean I’m not the pronunciation guy, but I just I feel like you’d be confusing me on here when you say the name first. So everybody is instead of me. Look, I look Alex is upset at me because I pronounce it as if he’s Spanish. He speaks perfect Spanish. He speaks better Spanish than Hawkeyes does. So I, you know, I’m just giving him credit for that. But anyway, he’s the he’s the Heat’s rookie point guard. He’s 19 years old. And I knew this was going to happen. We all knew this was going to happen that if he showed something and last night he showed something. He had 10 assists. He was a plus what 14 plus 16. Uh he got into the paint. He was quick with his decisions. But the biggest thing is the vision. Uh the vision was obvious even in summer league when he wasn’t playing with the same level of competition. But also, let’s just be honest, he struggled. He struggled in California. He really popped in one game out in Vegas and I was there for that one. And other than that, it was very very up and down uh and mostly down. And I think that’s why and in addition to conversations uh that I’d had with people, you know, behind the scenes here, it looked like he was going to spend the majority of his time this year in Sou Falls. But now he fans have gotten a look at him and sort of the possibilities of what could be and they don’t want him in Sou Falls. So I’m just going to start with this. Okay. First thing, what did you like the best of what you saw last night? And then we’re going to devote this episode to how exactly is Eric Spoler going to be convinced to play him early in the season when even without Tyler Hero available, they are loaded with guards. Yeah, I would say the thing I like most is just the vision. It was the passing. It was just the natural feel. Like we haven’t seen a point guard like that in a Miami Heat jersey in quite some time where it was just distributing. It was there was a lot of things like number one he looked like a completely different player than the one we saw in July. Like he looked like just much better in a lot of different areas. Like there was one specific area you mentioned it for a second was him just getting by his defender one-on-one where it was like the only way for him to get to his game into his playmaking bag. We talked about it a lot in summer league was to get downhill, get in the paint, draw defenders, kick out, kind of get in that bag and he couldn’t get by his defender. like he was just stuck out on the perimeter and he couldn’t get to that next level. I’m watching him last night, he he could not get by his defender. Like every time down, it was early offense getting past that initial defender. Uh and the amount of respect he was seeing on the floor. Like if you go back and watch these reps that he’s getting, he’s drawing three defenders on a lot of possessions. He’s drawing Bam or or Wears big that’s guarding him. He’s stepping up and a lot of the times he has Hawkins as his defender in the corner stepping all the way down to the paint when he gets two feet in the paint. Uh like that that’s just good things to say. See, yes, like this is third string spurs he’s playing against, but like these are really good reps to see him kind of getting a feel for. The biggest surprise I would say for me was his defense. The the defense was strong. Like it wasn’t just the first possession where he he gets around a screen, jumps the pass line, gets the steal, goes out pass the key shot for the dunk. There were possessions where he’s like falling for a shot fake or something, but recovering like he would slide his feet really quick. He had one where he slid his feet. was really surprising where he kind of bit on the shot fake, slid down and still stayed straight up and got a block and then they ran out for a transition play. Like his defense was just really strong. I thought his recovery speed uh just his natural feel. He was a really good helper. Like I felt like every time like one of the bigs for the Spurs had the ball, he was just dropping down to the nail, swiping, going back. Like he was just so active on defense. And that is just when you talk about wanting to see him play next season and see like getting real rotation minutes. That’s what’s going to help. But we’ll see what the scoring comes along with. He had a nice step back three, a nice turnaround mid-range shot. Like that’ll come along. Nothing about the jumper. Nothing about the form makes me think he can’t be a great shooter in this league. Like he has a good form, good lift, like great mechanics overall. Uh but the passing is what’s going to get him playing time. Like he he is just so natural in that area. Watching him play with Wear. these lob passes. I know where gives credit to Pella for good lob passes or some of the guards. I haven’t seen these these type of passes on the money that like when you’re a point guard and you’re like almost overthrowing your big your 7 foot one big like that’s the type of passes you want as a big man. Like you want to have the ability to have to go up further to go get it and not have it be too low and have to adjust like he just knows his personnel. Uh and it felt like every time Haime or Keshot or any of these guys cut he was kind of hitting them in stride. So, and just a really strong debut from him. Yes, it’s a preseason game. Yes, it’s only one game. We’ll kind of see how it goes the rest of the preseason, but it it’s hard not to say that you want to see this guy get playing time with the style that he plays. Well, you mentioned the pass is to wear. I mean, that’s to me that’s the thing that jumped out the most because we talk about not having this kind of point guard play in a long time. I mean, the reality is they’ve almost never had it. They they really haven’t. I mean, and I I know there’s going to be a lot of credit given to Goran here because Goran’s working with him, and there’s no bigger Goran fan than me, but Goran was not a vision guy as a point guard. Goran was a go get it for himself type of guy. This more the type player was. He was never a guy to get you seven, eight, nine, 10 assists on a consistent basis. He was just a dynamo in terms of trying to guard him when he got to his spots, when he got to his little step back. Uh, and again, uh, very much a rhythm player, great finisher, but not elite vision. Not that that we just didn’t have that. Okay. Now, Lowry, by the time he came to Miami, wasn’t trying to use it. And you go back beyond that. I mean, the vision thing was LeBron and Dwayne. Wasn’t there wasn’t their point guard. I apologize to Rio for this, but that’s Roy Rio wasn’t brought up as a point guard. Uh, really, he he started playing point guard with the Heat. Uh, he mostly played the two when he was in college and before that. So, this is a different kind of player than they have had. And you mentioned two things, the vision and I I was impressed with the defense also. The scoring, he does seem like a rhythm player when he’s when when he is making reads and they are successful and I saw this in the in the game out, you know, in Vegas. Then all of a sudden, he starts to feel comfortable, you know, kind of getting to the step back on his three last night. He reset. Okay, he he got a pass from where. By the way, I I don’t want to not give some credit to wear here because we’re not devoting the podcast to him. We devoted a lot of the written copy to him last night. But the reason Eric Spolster is pushing Kel Wear is because that is inside KL Wear. Okay, if they didn’t see that, it’s almost like wear made things more difficult on himself last night because like it’s now we’ve seen it after spoke called him out in summer league and his next two games the effort was much better and then we just saw last night where he has 29 and 11 or 29 and 13 setting his own bar like he’s setting the bar for the coaches to get on him for right like if you’re going to be good don’t be that good okay because now this is going to be expected by everybody all the time um but he was terrific I mean his energy, his effort, his second effort on rebounds and and also there was on Cass’s first three there was a pass from Wear where We didn’t even think he just he got the ball right out to him. The ball moved. That’s one of the things I liked about wear last year is he doesn’t seem to be like kind of a ball stopper in the paint. So, he was terrific and I want to give him credit for that. Obviously, he’s not gonna play that way every day, but you want to see him play as if he’s playing against WBY every day because that seems to get the best out of him. Okay. and and as if Spo should just like they should just like put a little bug in his ear with just Spo screaming at him and and maybe that you’ll get that kind of effort. But back to Cass. Okay. I I think what we saw last night was the high upside vision to use the word of what the Heat saw. And I’ve said this that this transformation they’re trying to make offensively which is more pace uh and not just transition but just getting into offense earlier making quicker decisions you know a little bit more of kind of a read and react sort of like Golden State has played with Kerr a little bit more of a of a European style. This is all like if you look at where they’re going it’s all to eventually give the ball to this guy. Like that’s like you look at the the integration, you know, the what’s going on with Yoic, okay, who’s that style is the style that he wants to play, okay? You look at Lrison who got on the court last night, made immediately went on the floor just like we told him that he would uh on the podcast, but you look at the way that they’re trying to to build this thing now. It the final form of this is the ball in Cass’s hands. So, on the other side of this, I want to ask you when that actually happens because now fans are going to want it to happen right away. And Spo is not going to rush that process. We know that. And he’s going to drive people insane and he’s going to play a player who I think is going to start opening night, by the way. Uh, and I think it’s going to irritate a lot of people again. And this player is going to get unfair heat because this player uh has done everything possible to get back and really should be admired. But we’ll get to that in a second. 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Again, it’s real estate shopfl.com or the Fort Letterdale Realtor on Instagram. Okay, so let me start with my theory here. I said during summer league I thought Yoic was gonna start over where and it looks like we’re going that way. Now that Tyler Herro is out, I think the opening night starter in the back court’s going to be Drew Smith. I don’t think it’s going to be DaVon Mitchell. And it’s not because DaVon isn’t playing yet, although we’ll probably see DaVon at some point before uh the season starts. He’s been nursing an injury, but it’s because of the way that Spo likes to layer his rotations. And I think that he’s going to end up starting Drew over DaVon because he’s going to want to get DaVon comfortable with being a team wrecking player coming off the bench. Okay. And helping to run and facilitate with that second unit, especially if Yoic is not going to be part of that second unit, at least at the very beginning. Um, and so I I see him starting Drew, who he trusts, who gives you more more size than DaVon does in the back court, and who is just gonna he’s not going to try to make a ton of plays. Da’Von may be encouraged to make more plays this year. And I think off the bench that makes sense, but I think that to play off of Norm, get Norm going offensively. Drew’s gonna give up the ball. He’s gonna spot up and he’s going to defend. And I thought he’s looked good every time he’s been out there this year. He looks healed, which is amazing. Um, and he’s he’s just a lowmaintenance player that I think Spo is going to trust to put out there with the starting group, get DaVon comfortable, and then when Hero comes back, Hero slots in for Drew, and then Drew slides to the back end of the rotation. Does that make any sense to you before we get to Cass? It does. It’s not ridiculous. They’ve done it before where they want to stash the guy on the bench to get him comfortable for the first month or so before it comes back. But they’ve done that more in my opinion for like young players, players that like need to get in a scoring rhythm where it’s more so like, okay, we need this guy in a rhythm for in that role where DaVon to me is somebody that could adjust. Like he’s somebody that I think is fine in either role where I ultimately do think I do think it’s DaVon. I think DaVon does start just because I just think DaVon’s a better Drew. like he’s just it’s like all the things that Drew does, DaVon just does that at a higher level just overall. And I think he can kind of adjust the bench uh starter role and it’s like we both say it’s like DaVon’s going to play for 40 minutes a game anyway. Like he’s going to be out there like 24/7 anyway, so it’s going to make it a little bit more interesting. Uh the question I think overall, which is Casper and Drew, like could they play together? I think that’s like the first thing I think of when I ask because I think about the rotation right now and let’s say you do start DaVon early in the season when he comes back. You have Drew off the bench, that’s a given. You have Pella off the bench, that’s a given. You have Kell off the bench, that’s a given. There’s three wild cards which is Haimey, Fonteo, and Caspers with the Haimey played well last night. I mean, give him credit. They they they put him in his role. They they he got back to his game as he dunked on day. He ded he didn’t shoot any threes. Like he just went he went straight ahead except for the one time he spun to nowhere and and and like if you could just like take off the spin function like on, you know, the PS5. That’s all you got to do with him. Just take just remove the ability to spin and he’s fine. If he just goes this way, that’s it. And he talked about doing that and yeah, he was good last night. Okay. So you’re saying there’s three guys there. We now I framed it as Fonteio versus uh Hakez and we haven’t gotten a chance to really see Simone because he he’s been he’s been banged up also. Uh it seems like Spo is going to want to at least give Hawquez an opportunity early in the year. Yeah, right. I mean, he did start him in the first game, but you and I know Okay. I mean, Larson’s going to play, right? I mean, there’s no question, right? He He’s a given off the bench. That’s why I just think I would lean 10 with this type of roster. when you’re leaning, especially, look, they’re saying they want to lean in this fast, constantly running offense. If you’re doing that, you have to play more guys. You have to have fresh bodies. You have to kind of keep rotating in these new players. And like you said, like I when I look down this roster and I’m like, who can sustain and keep this team running in January, February, like it’s fine now because every it’s on everybody’s minds. We have to run. We have to run. But when it’s a Tuesday night in January against Charlotte, who’s going to keep you running? Yic is somebody that I think can do it. Davon is somebody that is faster paced and I think has that that mentality. But Casper can keep you going. Like Casper is somebody that you can throw out there that will stay on you that every time that ball is inbounded. There were possessions last night like multiple possessions where he had his two feet in the paint with 20 seconds left on the shot clock. Like he’s getting down the floor and immediately attacking early in the clock that he just has that mentality. He likes playing that fast style. So they have to butdy but but Brady my thing on it is it feels like spo needs to commit to that with him or do send him to Sou Falls and then bring him up when somebody gets hurt because I the worst thing and we saw this in summer league and I I still don’t really know what they were doing there. Okay, where they had Cass on the floor and they put they were putting the ball in the hands of who is it even? I can’t remember. The point guard has been around like 12 different places and they were never going to keep anyway. Who’s who was the summer league point guard that was starting with him? Uh I see we can’t even remember but we were like we were cursing on the television earlier. July was 10 months ago. No I I know and and that the thing is and Cass would just stand in the corner and like that’s that’s not what you want. Okay. Like again he’s a rhythm player. There’s a pace that he wants to play at that’s going to get other players to play at his pace. Last night Lewis is the name you give. Thank you. Okay. And we don’t need to speak it again. Good luck to him. Yeah, the Okay, but like and they literally Cass is standing in the corner like that that is not the way to utilize him. They’re better off giving him the team and Sue falls for two weeks and then somebody gets hurt and bringing him up and saying, “Okay, here come up and run the second unit because he needs to be in that kind of rhythm where there’s a flow. He gets into his jumper. The players start to feed off that energy. They start looking for lobs.” Okay. Whether it’s where or ultimately if it’ll be Bam uh or someone else up front. And Yoic, I want to see him play with Yoic. I to me that’s that’s really enticing. I think you look at you know him and Tyler is going to be interesting. Um because the one thing that that comes across from this group and this is not a slight to Tyler who is still their most skilled scorer, okay? Although Norm’s pretty damn good, is that is that this group gets off the ball. They do. I mean, that’s the way he wants them to play and that’s the way they’re playing. Norm does not hold it. Like it it is like even if he’s holding it for two, three seconds, it’s to draw some kind of ridiculous foul. He got two fouls out on the perimeter uh with pump fakes, okay? It was a little Dwayne like uh that that he showed last night. And so he has that kind of skill set. Tyler is going Tyler needs the ball in his I know he can play off the ball, but he he get makes things happen with the ball in his hands. I I’m curious to see how that looks with Cass and I don’t know when we’re going to get to it, but I I just think that if you’re going to play Cass, you have to give him the keys for the time he’s out there. Otherwise, it’s pointless. He’s not going to develop any confidence. Yeah. I’ll say on the Tyler thing to be fair to Tyler. I think they wanted him to play that style, but it just like the roster is is it wasn’t possible. Like they just didn’t have like this overall roster right now fits him getting off the ball much more than the one last year at the end of last year. Uh it is tough because it was even points last night, I mean, where there was times where I was like me and Alex were sitting there talking like can they get Caspers the ball and let him run the offense? Like there were a couple plays in a row where it was Haimey bring the ball down and then it was like Kim putt his back to the basket and it was like like they’re they’re so not used to having a point guard that they’re used to like anybody getting the ball going up the floor and then setting up the offense that like they’re just they’re just not used to it. It’s just something new for them right now. And then Casper gets the ball, settles them down, runs a pick and roll, gets the ball to wear and then it’s a bucket. Like it just it kind of gets to that point. Can they get to a point I guess the question is where they can give him the keys? I do think so because like they’re they were going to have to stagger so much this season where it’s going to be look number one Wiggins I think is going to have a big season. He’s going to be good but he doesn’t want the keys per person like he doesn’t want the keys to a lineup. He wants to be the secondary action guy. He wants to be guy off the he wants everybody to forget about him and then all of a sudden he’s going to have a little flourish like he he’s not like Norm is going to kind of be the key of a lineup. Like I we saw last night, I asked Fo about it last night because he kind of got those minutes with the second unit, which Powell with the second unit is going to be a staple. Like they’re going to need him to man down those lineups. But the other way of manning down an offensive lineup is having a point guard that can get your role players the ball. The issue was in the first game was like they just threw all their role players out there at once and there was no really ball handlers or like the roles just didn’t make sense. He kind of put you in a position. So the question is like I do think in some ways you could play Drew with Caspers just because Drew is an offball player defender. He doesn’t demand the basketball. He can he’s kind of showed he’s a pretty good shooter right now like off the catch like he he is absolutely firing. The issue is if you are playing Caspers and Drew off the bench together. I hate to say positions but Yovic is your only four and I like keep coming back to that when I’m looking at these lineups they can get to. What I mean by that is like if you’re running Drew and Caspers off the bench, if Yovic isn’t on the floor, it’s either Wiggins is your four, Pella or Haimey maybe, or like it just gets a little weird that like you you’re playing you’re really risking playing a lot smaller. Yes, you’re going to have wear at the five, but I guess this is the trade-off they’re going to have to make. Are you willing to go smaller to maximize you playing faster? Yeah. or are you just gonna just try to match the size of these other teams, which I think everybody wants them to play bigger, but you want them to play bigger until you look at the roster of who’s the bigger lineups? Like, it doesn’t really make sense for this team. So, in some ways, I know we all want them to rebound better, play bigger, all that stuff, but now I’m looking at this roster and it’s like there were lineups the Pacers were running out last year that were a little bit smaller, but they would just get out there and run. They would just funnel things inside. They would get out and run. I think Miami in some ways has to kind of lean into that. So, will we see it a ton? I don’t know. But I I’m not It’s to me it’s not the end of the world. Like, it’s Casper or Drew right now. And to be honest, it’s funny because Drew’s been it’s such a horrible position here because he had the he had the hate of the fan base early on. Like, it it’s just trickled down. So, now it’s gotten to the point where like, okay, this guy’s good. This guy’s good at basketball. He’s a rotation player. Respect him. Now, it’s okay, wait, we want to play the rookie now. Drew Smith is now everybody’s gonna get back on the Drew Smith thing because he’s in Casper’s way, which is just so unfair to him. But yeah, uh with that said, like I I do think there is a pathway to both of them playing in in some ways and just leaning into the fast style and just keep funneling three point guards in. Now they haven’t had one point guard over the last few years and now you have three where you can just keep funneling out there to run the offense, run the floor, put guys in position. I don’t think this is the worst thing in the world. I think they can utilize all three of these guys. Well, they’ve also paid DaVon now. So, that’s that’s the other thing. It’s a little bit of a different circumstance. And and look, uh, you know, to me, it’s a quarterback thing. Like, Casper is a natural quarterback that you’re born with that or you’re not. And right now, if Drew is going to be playing, he’s like the standin. Like, he’s like the the Ryan Fitzpatrick while Tuo is waiting or something like that. Okay. Well, that didn’t work out the way the Dolphins liked necessarily, but you get my point. Like, he’s he’s basically going to be the guy that everybody wants to see move to the side. And I don’t I don’t think it’s fair based on what he’s done. But I again fans have to be patient here with the process because the process is to eventually they’re not they didn’t draft Casper just like they didn’t draft where okay to punish the guy and let him sit there and watch okay for no reason. They there there’s with these situations there’s always a couple of you know elements to it. One element is what is best for the team in that moment. Okay. But the other element and the one that the Heat under Spolstra tend to trend to is what is best for the players long-term development. And I always come back to this, okay, for those of you who are wondering how Yoic got to where he is now or how Bam got to where he was by the time that he was ready to be a starter in his third season, maybe the fact that they were held back a little bit played into it. Like everyone’s like, because the response from fans is always, “Well, see, you should have played him earlier. He would have been producing this before.” And what Spolster and the coaches will push back as well, he wasn’t ready to do this before. Like we we had to I mean whether it was uh mentally, emotionally, physically, tactically, we had to put him in a position where we were challenging the particular player to improve in these areas. Now once like last year for instance, okay, if somebody is ahead of the player like Terry Rosier who was actively sabotaging every lineup that he’s in, then okay, not intentionally, okay, I’m not accusing, but I’m saying it was that’s what was happening. Then I understand fans frustration with like why are you continuing to throw this guy out there for 35 minutes when you could be playing this one or this one or this one? Then I get it. Okay. Like if if if Khlo Wear was playing behind Cody Zeller, okay, I would get it. But when it’s a situation where you have a player who can competently do the things that Folster wants him to do and then you have someone else who’s not ready to do some of those finer points, I understand why it is that a player has to wait and sometimes the reason the player gets better is because he waited. Uh yes, what were you saying? So two things. Number one, I totally agree with you. I I wanted to say one thing. Casperous Yovic wear is something I want to see a ton of just because we saw the Yovic wear combination. You add Casper into that, Casper’s wear last night looked really good. We want to see Casper Seovic. All that is great. But I want to mention at the back of this podcast, I know this is Casper’s podcast, but we do have some breaking news from Shams on the Heat. Uh, USA basketball is expected to name Eric Scholster as the new head coach the men’s national team. Wow. So, that was just came through. So, that’s going to blend into another podcast possibly. Wow. Well, we’ve kind of seen that coming. And by the way, for those of you who didn’t think Bam was going to be on the next Olympic team, we’ll see Tyler there, too. Spoing against a lot of his old a lot of his own players in the Olympics next time around. He’s going to be coaching against like his entire roster. He’ll take he’ll take Bam and Tyler and that’ll be about it. All right. Well, that’s huge news. 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