Jonathan Gannon vs Emari Demarcado SETS OFF The Arena

Jonathan Gannon vs Emari Demarcado SETS OFF The Arena

Should Ganon have apologized to De Marcato? Look, if if Ganon apologized, then obviously he felt the need to. So, I’m fine with that. That that’s a coach going up there and being a leader. And after you wait 24 hours, you know how that is. Emotions during a game, after a game, when you watch the tape, know it’s never as good as you think, it’s never as bad as you think. When you take those 24 hours, turn the page, move on, you reassess everything. I think that’s what happened with Ganon. But I will start with this. What De Marcado did that that’s inexcusable. That can’t happen, especially at the NFL. You see it at high school sometimes. You see it at college, but for it to happen at the highest level for you to drop the ball before you get to the goal, I don’t want to say he was showboating because it wasn’t like he was doing anything crazy or anything wild, but you have to be a pro in that situation because if he scores right there, they go up 28-6. And you may say, “Okay, one play doesn’t change the outcome of a game.” In this case, it does. It does. It really does because teams that have a 22 point lead or more in the fourth quarter, according to ESPN, are 1,276 to1. in the last 25 years. That was a gamechanging play that changed the outcome against that team against that team. They’re not coming back. You give them just a little bit of hope and you let those I want to say bad teams, but they are right now. They’re struggling. You let those lesser opponents hang around, they start to think they can win. So that that can’t happen. That’s an excuse. You would have hit them too, Cody is what you’re saying. No. Well, I’ll get to that now. I’ll get to that now. No, I I I just again that can’t happen. Especially the role that you have on that football team. It was a hell of a run. Saw the hole, broke it, took it to the house. Slowed up a little bit, too. I didn’t like that. just finish in the end zone. That was a me first type of play instead of a team first type of play. Finish in the end zone, then drop the ball and go celebrate. But now when it comes to what Ganon did initially, I had to watch video a couple times and it’s tough because we don’t have sound. So I would have loved to hear what he was saying in that moment to get a little bit more context, but I was okay with the first hit when he walked up and smacked him in the chest. And I’ve been there, you know, after a pick or something happens, coach walks up, hits you in the chest, a shoulder pad, taps your helmet. Hey, wake up. Get your ass chewed a little bit. Let’s get back. Let’s get ready to go. That’s how I felt it was initially, but the second hit when he was walking away and it looked like he kind of reared back and gave him a good swing and it knocked his headset off. He was opened. It was openhanded, but it was still forceful. And that second hit to me, the first one, I’m fine. Hey, wake your ass up. Don’t do that [ __ ] again. Let’s go. That one. And you see the coach, too, added context. The coach is coming over to grab him by his hip. So, you know, it was a little more heated and he needed to break that up. So I the second one for me I think he could have went without because that tells me that Ganon lost his cool a little bit and he got a little too emotional in the moment. That’s why he apologized. I don’t think he apologized for the initial hit and talking to him. I think he apologized for the second one and he went to the team and said, “Hey, that’s on me. I’ve got to be better.” You just you have to be calm in that moment. I know you’re frustrated. Everyone’s pissed. That’s an inexcusable play that can’t happen. But you’re the head coach of this football team to me. I don’t want to say hit a player because it’s not like he’s over there punching him. But to let your emotions get the best of you in that moment, I think he could have been better. So again, I don’t mind the initial contact. I don’t mind getting fired up on the sideline. This is a grown man sport. People’s livelihoods. I mean, a lot of money’s involved, their jobs are involved. So emotions are going to be high, but you have to control yourself a little bit better if you’re Ganon in that situation. I mean, he gave him a little shove. And I mean, he’s a coach. He ain’t no boxer, so he ain’t going to be accurate with his little hit. probably tried to hit him on the chest as he was walking off. I don’t have no issue with any of it, okay? Because it was that crucial of a play. We’re all adults and um you don’t know their relationship. And for me, the reason I I took that route of it because something like that has happened with me before where my coach Joe Cullen, who’s actually the coach of uh Chris Jones, and we’ll get into that in a little bit, but my coach Joe Cullen, one time we were playing Atlanta and I was supposed to run a pirate where I’m in the B gap and I’m supposed to stunt and go into the A gap and we were on a goal line and I didn’t get into the A gap. And when he got the sideline, coach was like, “Did you get an A?” I’m like, “No, because the splits and however blah blah blah.” And he gets in my face and I’m yelling at him. He yelled at me and like we get to kind of going back and forth with a little like get out of my face like is this really what you want to do? They had to pull me back. They had to pull him back and then the media got wind of it. It became a thing after the game. What happened this and this? Me and Joe had already settled it because that’s our relationship. We can talk to each other like that and not take it away. His wife was like, “Oh my god, you and Joe were about to fight.” He was like, “I don’t know what you’re talking about.” They asked me, “Jerro, what happened between you and Joe?” I was like, “I don’t know what you’re talking about.” We both knew, “Let’s downplay this because that’s our relationship.” So, him doing that in front of the media, I think that was a him thing. I don’t think that was for the player. Him apologizing. Him apologizing. I believe that was a him thing. like let me make sure that I look a certain way. But you handle that behind closed doors and you get in front of the media and you say, “Hey, listen. We pros. We talked about it. We dealt with it moving forward.” You know, the the apology I personally feel like that was a him thing. Like, let me protect my image and how I looked. I don’t think that was about the kid. Like, I did too much. No, the the heat is on me. So, I’m going to publicly say I apologize and all this so y’all know that I did apologize. But nah, you know, that can be handled behind closed door. It’s just pros being pros. So, you’re okay with hands on? Yeah. Like it’s because we don’t, like you said, we don’t know what was said. Yeah. He didn’t push his face. He pushed him on the pads and he was walking off. He kind of swiped his arm. He probably meant to hit his chest like, “Come on, you better than that.” Or, “We got to be better than that.” and he might have just hit his shoulder, but he meant to hit his pad. You see the kid didn’t react cuz he’s he know like who’s to say that behind closed doors they don’t that’s just not their relationship. We don’t know. We have no idea. So when that happened I didn’t look at it like oh sure you keep your hands to yourself. Yeah. Like come on man. It’s a heat of the moment. Yes. A head coach has to keep his cool because you take on the identity of your head coach. So if our coach loses his cool and heated moments, then he can’t fuss at us when we do it. I understand it. But I wasn’t really I wasn’t really moved by the little It’s like he did it as he was walking off. It was more of like a we’ve seen multiple times the come on man, be better than that as you’re walking past. So, I wouldn’t, you know, I am with you on I’m not worked up and offended by hands-on in this case, but I do think to your point that Ganon woke up, as he said, his quote was, “I woke up this morning and didn’t feel great about it.” Honestly, he didn’t feel great about it because the NFL PA is all over it. Yep. and he needed to apologize for the sake of the organization, for the sake of maybe getting fined, maybe some other penalties could come down because that’s the era we live in. You guys aren’t that old, but but I, you know, I I can go back to my high school. There were times in this country when that was perfectly acceptable. Today, it’s really not acceptable to put your hands on a on a player in any sport. But the other point, I don’t know the the personal relationship between the two, but Marcato, D. Marcato, is he’s their third string back. I I liked him at TCU because he caught my eye. I don’t know if you remember, but in their national semifinal against Michigan, which they won before they got obliterated by Georgia in the championship game, Torched when it’s 65-7. But in the semifinal, he went for 150 yards against Jim Harbaugh’s Michigan. And I think Jesse, was Jesse Mentor there? I guess he was as the coordinator. Yeah. Yeah. So that was impressive me. He caught my eye. And I thought he’d be a fourth or fifth round pick. And he didn’t get drafted. So he’s their third string back. It was flukish he was even in the game at that point just to rest the second string because the first string back’s gone. But look, the the point for Jonathan Ganon is that there’s a way to deal with this for the sake of the football team, and that wasn’t it. Because you can’t make the kid feel any worse than he felt at that point. He’s being consoled by one of the offensive linemen. I’m going to hark back to my days with Jimmy Johnson and the Dallas Cowboys. And I had my clashes with Jimmy because he clashed with everybody. But he took over that football team replacing the great Thomas Wade Landry in Dallas, Texas, as you well know. And they broke through a year early because he created a force field unlike any I have ever experienced because he motivated by fear. That football team with three Hall of Famers, really four on their way up. They were ascending at that point. Were scared to death of Jimmy Johnson. So, how did he drive home his point in that 1992 breakthrough season that you see in the current Netflix documentary? They get to the final game of the regular season with a chance to go 13-3 and clinch the second seed to the 49ers. And they were going to have to end up going to Candlestick to win the championship game, which they did. But the last game of the year is against Ditkas Chicago Bears at Texas Stadium and they’re up 27 to nothing going to the fourth quarter. And he takes Troy EMTT and Michael out of the game. They take their pads off and sit on the top of the bench. Not down in the seats, but up on top of the bench because they’re having a good old time because they’re 13 and three. Here we go into the playoffs and what happens? The backup running back fumbles twice in the fourth quarter. kid named Kurvin Richards, a fourth round pick out of pit. And Jimmy Johnson threw a fit on the sidelines at Kervin Richards, but he didn’t go pop him in the stomach or pop him on the pads. He ignored him until Monday morning when he cut him going to the playoffs. He cuts Kervin Richards, the only backup to Emit Smith. And I’m like, what? What if Emit gets nicked? What what what if you need Kervin Richards for a play here or there? Uh you got nobody. There is you are unprotected at backup running back because by that point you couldn’t replace him on the roster. It was too late. Mhm. And Jimmy got so mad during the game that he forced Troy Imit and Michael to put their pads back on and go back on the football field which is just psycho to me but again motivating by fear. So the move for Ganon was if if you’re the leader of the football team, you rise above your your anger. I I I get the anger. You you get it because it’s just unacceptable what happened. Your third string back is going to drive the final nail into the Titans coffin and and you’re grandstanding and you slow up at the three or four and you lose the football before you hit the goal line. It’s just not right. And the whole football team knows it’s not right. And then the exclamation point was they blow the freaking game. How do you blow it? And it took crazy stuff happening. It it it took Cam Ward throwing an off-balance tipped interception that gets fumbled into the end. You know, it’s just like madness ensued. The worst case scenario, as as Kyler said, it was like 101 football 101 or how to blow a football game. But my point is that’s a cutable, that’s a fireable offense. And that’s how you drive your point home. You just wake up Monday morning and just send him back and you’re okay without him. You can figure that you can add somebody. You got you got plenty of time. So that’s just me because there’s too much touchyfey to me going on in the National Football League. And we saw AD Mitchell do it for the Colts at the Rams where he’s grandstanding and loses the ball before the goal line. We we’ve seen it over the years to Shawn Jackson. It it it’s it’s a moment that cannot be allowed. And if he if he would have cut demarcado, then it sends a message around the National Football League. Hey, that that’s just out of bounds, man. You can’t do that or you’re going to lose your job. That’s what I wanted to see. Not popping him in the stomach or whatever he did. I that that’s just me and that’s not my my issue isn’t that De Marcado is sensitive and he got his feelings hurt or anything. My issue is that you could already tell that the kid was down, right? He obviously knew that he made a mistake. He had the offensive lineman with his arm around him that they’re trying to console him. They’re trying to say, “Hey, we’re going to need you. It’s okay.” So, so I’m not mad that he came over and hit him. I don’t think he physically hurt him even if he tried to hit his arm or chest, whatever it was. I don’t think it was in that sense to where I’m saying he assaulted him. I think it was in the sense of as a head coach in those moments either a say nothing and cut him on Monday. I’m fine with that. I think that huh cut him. Cody if you’re going to I’m telling you man that is people’s lives are on the line with this stuff. Your job is on the line. Ganon is not solidified in Arizona right now. You know like this is his future is coaching for the what at that point? 28. They would have put him up 28-6. Okay. and they would have been the game would have been over. There’s no way that comes back. It’s 1251. Yeah, there’s 12 12 and a2 minutes left to go base. 1240 1251 left in the game. You go up 286, but you didn’t score. So, you still up 216 versus a no- win team that’s been playing terrible, terrible. And you cut this kid because he didn’t put you up an extra touchdown. What about everybody else? What about everybody else that just like the game over? But we going to cut him because of this one mistake. This is a young kid. He’s a third string guy. He’s worked his whole life to get to this point. Should he have been better in that moment? Yes. But you tell him. That’s where you have that one-on-one with him and say, “Hey, listen. This is how you lose opportunities.” I’m just so happy to not cutting you. But anybody could at this point, you just so happen to come across somebody who didn’t. You do this at this level, you lose your job. But to cut him over a mistake when all of the other stuff that took place is why they lost. That wasn’t why they lost. It just would have put the game away. But that wasn’t why they lost. So you going to cut him a young guy over a mistake? Okay. But are you do you disagree the game if he scores it’s over? Is it over? Yeah, the game is out of reach. But he should have been out of reach anyway. Yeah, but the problem I have playing the Tennessee Titans and you got Kyler Murray at quarterback. Okay. So you’re saying so if you don’t cut him, say you don’t cut him, you think, and this goes back to maybe this is the boring quarterback answer, but you think publicly shaming him like that on the sideline knowing, and they again, we don’t know the relationship, but you got to know how to get the most out of the player. It didn’t seem like to me that De Marcado was the type of guy that’s like, man, okay, yeah, you know, I need you to yell at me. I need you to cut. You could tell he knew he made a mistake, right? So I’m saying you going over there and publicly shaming him, fine. The first time hitting him on the chest, letting him know that’s more publicly shaming than getting losing your job. I would way rather keep a little pat on his chest. A little pat was it too much? Oh, should he had apologized? That’s the question. So that is more publicly shaming then go home. No, it’s not. Now that’s national. This is national news because he apologized. It would if that would have blew over. We didn’t had a lot of stuff happen since then. He apologized. So now it’s like, okay, he apologized. Should he have apologized? That’s the thing. if he had cut him now, it’s like, well, god dang. But what what message would I send to you in the locker room if you were on that team? You’d be like, God, you know, like this guy’s serious about us. That’s that’s fair. Turning this thing around. It is, but it also can send a message by not cutting him that, hey, he going to yell at me. He going to this and this. It might have got a little heated, but he believes that I can fix it. He believes that we all made mistakes. Everybody makes mistakes. You can learn from this. opposed to make a mistake gone. That No, that’s not. But we’re not talking. The issue I have I get what you’re saying and and I’m not I’m not disagreeing, but the issue I have is that it’s not like he dropped the pass or he had the ball and he got hit and they knocked the fumble out. That was a selfish play. I’m not saying De Marcado was a selfish player or person, but that was a me first type of play. And there’s no place for that in the NFL. That can’t happen. And it’s not like this is the first time this has ever happened. It has happened over and over and over again in the NFL. And I also think a factor in this is he’s not your star running back. He’s a third string player. So the issue that that I have with So you don’t play him again. So what? Now he just takes up a roster space and you hit him and now it’s like, all right, cool. Yeah, but it’s So what message are you sending as a coach though? Like you said this with Jimmy Johnson, but look who’s on his team. Yeah, he’s he ran by fear, but look who’s on your team. You’re sending this kid home. Cut him. Go home. But what about the rest of your team? There’s no reason y’all should have lost that game. So now it’s like you’re making excuses. We going to send him home. Let’s cut him. If he hadn’t done that, we would have won. Okay. What about everybody else? Now he at home. What you saying to everybody else? What do you say to Kyler? What do you say to the defense? There’s no reason they should have lost. Period. That one touchdown would have put the game away, but it’s not why they lost. Y’all giving up their lead is why y’all lost. Y’all were at home versus a team that’s been terrible. What did he just say about his team last week? What What did uh Cam War say about his team last week? We’re ass. Exactly. So, this this is a game you shouldn’t have lost anyway. But you going to cut him, send him home. Yeah. I mean, look, that’s more publicly shaming than getting a couple pats on the chest. Okay. Well, I’m and I’m and I’m a former quarterback. I’m I’m taking the boring answer on this. I I still think again, like, you know, I don’t like the first hit. I don’t mind. I don’t think there’s any issue with that. The second one though where you’re hitting them, headset falls off. They’re already consoleing them on the sideline. The coach has to come over, grab you on the hip, and say, “Hey, don’t do that. Obviously, you felt bad enough for what you did and said the next morning and then said, “Okay, I’m going to go apologize about it to the team and then I’m going to go do it publicly.” I feel like that is just way more, and again, I don’t want to see anyone get cut. I want everyone to have an opportunity in the NFL, but that’s way more to me than just saying, “Hey, you’re cut. You’re the third string running back. You made a mistake. It wasn’t a fumble. The ball got knocked out and we gave you an opportunity. Okay, we can learn from that. Let’s work on that next week at practice. You dropped the ball at the goal line because you wanted to start celebrating early. You slowed down. You showboed. Whatever you want to call it. That to me is worse than making or cutting him, I think, is better to handle that situation than it is to just deal with everything else that’s going to come with that. Thursday Night Football 2017, Buccaneers versus Patriots. We’re playing the Patriots who ended up going to Super Bowl. Now, they lost to the Philadelphia Eagles, but this is the Patriots. They come into a Thursday night game. We’re at home. We don’t We shouldn’t even be in this game. We lose to them 1713. Our kicker missed four kicks. I remember it. He got cut. Yeah, that’s cutable. You missed four kicks, we had a chance to beat the Patriots. That’s cutable because you literally are one of the main reasons we we held Tom Brady of all people to 17 points. 17. And you missed four kick. That’s cutable. Not the third string running back who fumbled and we up three scores already. You got to send a message to your locker room. That is unacceptable. Every mistake that got made after that was a mistake what they call of commission where you’re you’re trying to to commit. You’re trying to do something and you misfire, you drop, you you do whatever. This was so selfish and and it’s it’s a play that needs to get eradicated from the National Football League. And you could help for the greater good of the league to cut him because he has cut a bull. You you your fortunes are not going to rise and fall with De Marcato, right? Yeah. You you can get away because James Connor is your first back, Michael Carter’s your second back, you you’ll be okay. You’ll figure this out without them. But if you want to establish new culture in Arizona, that would send a message to me like, whoa. And that’s the main point is Jonathan Ganon right now is trying to establish a culture and he’s trying to make a statement and he’s trying to build a winning franchise instead of a foundation. Okay, great. Understand? I’m not disagreeing. I’m not disagreeing with what you’re saying on that point. My disagreement is the fact that or or to Skip’s point is that and I man I hate I don’t want to keep kicking kicking the guy while he’s down but to Skip’s point he’s a third string running back. We pay you a million dollars a year. Even if he’s making the rookie minimum, you’re making a million dollars a year. Yeah. To do that. I can go find someone else that can be a third string running back that’s not going to commit that type of mistake. If that’s your starter, and that’s the reality of the NFL. If I go out in a game and I throw three picks, my ass is getting benched from getting cut. If Tom Brady or a great quarterback or someone that’s a first round pick goes out and throws a couple picks and has a bad game, okay, we’ll learn from it. We’ll grow from it. The situation he’s in, I can relate with. You can’t afford to make those mistakes because when you have Jonathan Ganon who’s trying to set a foundation and you can be replaced by another guy that we can pick up from the practice squad or go find a free agent, they can come in and be the third string back. To me, it’s easier just to cut him, send a message instead of going through everything else that he went through and now he’s apologizing and now there’s unwanted tens attention on the Cardinals right now. I just mean as a coach, if you’re a quarterback or you’re if let’s put you in the coach’s seat, you just cut him. Yeah. Right. What are you saying to the rest of the team? Cuz that’s not the reason we lost. What do you say to everybody else? You’re saying that’s unacceptable. We don’t play football that way. What about the rest of y’all who let them come back? The thing I’m saying with this, Gerald, is it’s not that he made a mistake. It’s not like he fumbled because the ball got knocked out. It’s not like he made a football play that was a mistake like other guys did in the game to where they had a missed assignment or a missed opportunity or missed a throw or dropped the pass. This was a selfish act to where he started celebrating and dropped the ball before the goal line. This is a one of one. This is an outlier. It’s not a within the play mistake where he just fumbled. If he just fumbled in the game and they said, “We’re cutting you.” I would 100% disagree. I would say, “Don’t no. You’re sending the wrong message.” But the fact of how it happened and you’re the third string running back and again, I don’t want to kick this kid while he’s down. I hope he has a successful career, but that is to me something that is unacceptable. That can’t be okay. Even if you slap on the chest, it’s all right. We’ll go forward. We’ll learn from it. You have to make a statement in that situ. Not kicking the white down, but you definitely hitting him on the arm. Yeah, Cody’s like, “Cut him, man.” But like it’s it’s the NFL. You you know this man wholeheartedly about the whole situation. My only thing is you said don’t publicly embarrass him by doing that on the sideline. But if you’re if you’re going to be cool with him cutting him. No, but if you’re going to My point is if you’re going to publicly embarrass him and do all that and hit him and make a message, but then say what after? Hey, we still need you, man. It’s all right. You’ll bounce back. That’s not what happened in that moment. In that moment, to me, it looked like publicly shamed him, hit him. That walk away wasn’t, and even if we didn’t have the sound, that walk away wasn’t like, “Hey, you’re good, man. We’ll get it back.” That was a physical, and I’m not saying the hit. Look, I’m not worried about the hit. I don’t think he hurt him. I don’t think he hit him. Anything like that. But the fact that you did that and then you may need him going forward or you’re going to say, “All right, let’s bounce back from that. De Marcado, it’s all good, man. We’ll learn from it. Let’s just go forward with our relationship.” I’m not buying that. And and being the third string running back, I’ve been on a lot of offenses. I promise you they’re not like this. It’s not like an Andy Reed and Travis Kelce. It’s not like a quarterback offensive coordinator relationship. That’s a third string running back that you maybe talk to a couple times throughout the week. Maybe get some scout team reps. Might get a rep in the game. That’s not a relationship to where they are cool enough to do that. So, so I By the way, Vel Sunday night, Raandre Stevenson from University of Oklahoma fumbles. Was it first? I think it was first quarter when he fumbled. I think it was his first touch, right? Everybody was and Frabel goes straight over to him and he’s not happy with him, but he says, “Suck it.” I don’t know what exactly I’m paraphrasing, but he says, “Keep your head up. We’re going to need you the rest of the game because they need him and they did.” And he was there for for Vrabel. Yeah. When Ganon went off, he just lost it. And it it sent no message to the team because Marc de D Marcato is kind of beneath the dignity of the head coach walking back and and and just obliterating him, you know, like verbally and and then hitting him. It it didn’t send the right message to the team cuz clearly it didn’t inspire anybody cuz they’re like, damn, he lost it. You know, like our coach lost it. Cutting would have sent a different message the next day. That’s coaches in charge. He’s in control. He’s setting it’s a new day in Phoenix, Arizona, right? for our football team. All right, so real quick on the other point, the other thing that happens I mentioned the Sunday night game. So Keon Coleman for the second time this year gets punished, disciplined by Shawn McDermott. So he doesn’t play the first series in that game on Sunday night and that was the second time because at it was game three. He didn’t play the first series. I don’t know what he did if I think it’s the first time he’s late to a meeting. Something happened in practice this week that that required discipline on Shawn McDerm’s part. But to me, what does it matter if you miss the first series? What what message does that send to Keon Coleman? Is that really publicly humiliating? I That’s just dumb to All it look on paper is he didn’t start. Yeah. That’s the only thing I heard. What does it matter? That’s what I’m talking about. Discipline like public discipline of of shaming. That doesn’t shame anybody. that that’s not going to teach him any lesson. Oh, you didn’t play the first series and then he came back and made a couple big catches in the game. That situation. Yeah, just give him a little fine, move on. I I I think Yeah, I don’t I could have been in the locker room pooping and missed that much. Yeah, I’m actually unproatic quarterback Cody says cut him. Skip says cut him. Um but I have breaking news right now. We just found out in this moment

Jonathan Gannon vs Emari Demarcado SETS OFF The Arena as Skip Bayless, Gerald McCoy & The Arena Gridiron Crew react to the viral altercation on the sideline between the Arizona Cardinals head coach and his running back after Demarcado cost the team the game by fumbling while celebrating a long touchdown run and debate if Gannon handled the situation correctly. They give their own experiences dealing with head coaches in the heat of an NFL game and discuss if it was fair for the NFL to fine the Cardinals head coach $100,000 for assaulting his player.

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