REACTION: The Jacksonville Jaguars Are Ready to Compete For the AFC
You want to guess? Uh Trevor Lawrence is now in his fifth season. You want to guess how many game-winning drives that is for Trevor Lawrence in his fifth season? What he did last night with less than two minutes left? Well, he had one in the playoffs against the Chargers that cost me $80,000. This forget that one. This includes the postseason. This is fourth quarter and overtime nine. That’s exactly right. Good job, Greg. Did he know that bacon really helped? Yeah, of course he did. It’s all bacon. Of course, he knew $80,000 educated guess. Let’s Let’s just get past that one. So, it’s uh it’s two a year basically you can get from Trevor Lawrence. And uh he is the I have this right. Right. He’s the only quarterback in the league who flips his hair over his shoulder before taking the snap because he’s got to flip it over. Starting Mchu is still around. Does Mchu’s go back that far where it goes down below the shoulder pads? Mchu could have a high high and tight end and he’s still going to do that move. It’s muscle memory. I didn’t trust anything happening with Jacksonville late in that game because their quarterback is a galloping Clydesdale and he does things like fumble on the goal line trying to get a sneak and he does things like trip over his guard’s foot at the oneyard line so that he falls down. This is almost math. Do you know how big you have to be and clumsy to do what I’m about to say? Fall down from the oneyard line on the sixyd line, then on the eight yard line again and get up and run it in for a touchdown. I understand we want to lead with the quarterbacks, but that game was won by Devin Lloyd. I mean, how good have the Chiefs been with Andy Reid as head coach in that red zone area, in that goal line area? They they do this thing where they know the rule book and they they have these legal pick plays which should be outlawed by the way. That first touchdown to Travis Kelce was I mean nonsense. And for Devin Lloyd to read Patrick Mahomes’s mind because you can’t read eyes at that point. Everything is moving so quickly to know what Patrick Mahomes is going to do there. Step in front of the ball intended for Juju Smith Schustster and then on top of that display the athleticism. And I think we’re all at the point where we thought this guy’s gonna fumble the ball himself right before the goal line or get it punched out, right? To run 99 yards after that play. That is a season changing type of play. That that might be the difference between a home playoff game and not making the playoffs at all. That was certainly the difference in the game. Deon Lloyd the last couple of weeks. I think he’s been defensive player of the month. Yes. An incredible story. Joe Buck and Troy Aman did so well in in highlighting the fact that he entered camp in a position battle and he wasn’t he wasn’t gifted that linebacker position even though he was a firstround draft pick a couple of years ago. What he has done over the last month has been incredible. He should probably be defensive player of the year because you you look at the impact he’s had per nextgen stats. So Devin Lloyd’s 99 yard pick six swung their win probability by 42 percentage points in that moment. That’s with two minutes to go in the third quarter. It says that Devin Lloyd has added a 95.4 percentage in win probability over his league leading four interceptions. That’s more than double the next closest defender. His impact has been unfathomably important for this team. That’s not just Deepo argument right there. That is an MVP argument. But can we acknowledge also that it’s random? like we can be impressed with it and he should deserve these things but it’s like do you think do we really think I understand I understand it feels random but like the plays that he has made specifically the like that is film study that that is 99 yards that’s also athleticism that is god-given talent there ain’t nothing random about that play he almost got caught from behind too on that one yeah you know who was chasing him a guy with a 4240 the thing that I’m not going to do though is say that that won the game even though I understand why you would say that because at the end Trevor Lawrence still had to win it. Patrick Mahomes did the thing that you expect Patrick Mahomes to do in that spot. And even with only 21 seconds left, if the Chiefs had been able to not get a penalty on their kickoff, they might have gotten into field goal range. What happened at the end of the game was this Jags drive that I believe makes them not serious people and they’re not to be trusted in a playoff game. They’re going to make I I know that they’re very talented. I will not dispute that the Jags are very talented. I do not trust them in any way and I don’t trust them because of how that final drive went because I’ve seen them play with that quarterback that way four or five years and here’s what happened. It was wildly undisiplined. They get the ball at the 40 first of all because Harrison Butker like you cannot allow the other team to start at the 40 when your only job is to never get hit and just kick a football. Kick it in bounds. They start at the 40 yard line. As I said with a minute 45 left, after a minute they’ve gained three yards because Trevor Lawrence has run to his right and run to his left. Now he’s exhausted. He’s breathing hard and they have to use a timeout because he just keeps running right and left and not throwing the football. Then they get into a third and 13 and get bailed out by an interference call on an interception. They also had another throw at the goal line that could have been intercepted. It was a dumb pass that he threw at the goal line that that just way too dangerous a pass to be throwing in that situation. also hurry up offense delay of game. It’s just a total disaster. And then I thought on that one yard play given what had happened earlier in the game, Mike, because you’re saying pick six, but it’s not like the Jags didn’t fumble right on the goal line because Trevor Lawrence was holding the ball right over the goal line. 100%. Like the Jag, you can make the argument that the Jags are much better than the Kansas City Chiefs when you look at the game flow. When you consider they had to come back, when you consider the the huge fumble at the goal line, when you consider what you just outlined with that final drive, they were not making winning plays all that much outside of Deon Lloyd and Travis Hunter’s incredible catch. Like they it was a little confusing, especially when Kansas City is playing so well on offense. Think though, just think about what you said about the Chiefs on the goal line, the precision and the discipline that makes it when that Patrick Mahomes throws a pick six that goes 99 yards. You guys all react as if a spaceship had landed on the field because it’s something that you don’t expect. Now, pair that against how Trevor Lawrence did things from the one yard line just just yesterday where I thought he was going to keep falling back until he was on his own goal line. And that play even though he scored on it, wildly dangerous for him to be doing any of that in an outof control fashion where he’s not paying attention necessarily to how he has the ball because he’s in total panic, right? especially with an open receiver because the defender collapsed is hugely improbable. Not just the pick six, but the fact that as we highlighted, Lloyd outran Taekwon Thornton who runs a 4275. Yeah, I I don’t understand what I saw last night. The Jags might be legitimately they’re really talented. They might be legitimately good because they didn’t play an A+ game to beat this dynastic Kansas City Chiefs. They they they cannot be really good because they’re going to do something to screw it up in a big moment because they’re wildly undisiplined. Jacksonville was gifted that game. I have seldom seen the championship era Chiefs under Andy Reid look like they did last night. Dumb penalties throughout the game. Bad special teams. Defense completely losing that game. It It was It was gifted to Jacksonville. I don’t give much credit to the Jaguars for for winning that game. I think Kansas City just took a big giant crap on national TV. Duvall, can you play the sound of their owner, Shad Khan, who’s still trying to get over the urban meer of it all? He’s still trying to shake it. This clip I want to play is actually from weeks ago, but I just He’s so happy to have a winner. This is what we envisioned in January. Okay. Yes, sir. It’s happening here in September. Gonna go on forever. Forever. Forever. Talk to me in December. Anybody who thinks the Jaguars are a Super Bowl contender is high. What? You’re high on dope. They’re very talented, Greg. They’re very talented. Their defense is hugely improved. But this is not a team that’s going to scare anybody. Greg. All right, let’s talk this out. How How would you grade their performance last night? Give it a letter grade. I would give it a a C++ to B. All right. Said A. You would He said A couple times before he landed on C++. I agree. C++ seems fair. They They just beat the Kansas City Chiefs with a C++ effort. If that team meets its ceiling, they can beat anyone in that conference forever. And they beat the Chiefs with the Chiefs playing a style of football that has evaded them for the better part of two years. I mean, Pacheeka was getting up every play flexing. Pache was even back. That That was a Kansas City offensive performance that we’ve been longing to see. And the Jags mustered up a C++ effort and came back from multiple scores down and had to win in the game’s final moments. Like that that’s impressive. I come away from that performance thinking the Jags are going to be a problem if they make it to the playoffs because they could throw up a Jake Browning type performance. You guys say this though because um when you talk about the fact that some of this stuff is random and not repeatable. What do you do with what I’m about to say? Because maybe their defense is hugely improved. Maybe. Or maybe they had nine takeaways in 17 games last year and they’ve already got 14 this year. Like you guys think that’s real? You think you can keep taking the football away at a pace that would allow you to have 14 takeaways in five games that would skew all the results because that’s an absurd number. That’s they’ve already got five more this year than they had all of last year. And and and that’s a stat that usually correlates to winning. It doesn’t always. The Dolphins have had five takeaways in the last two games and lost them both or or lost one of them. But in in this case, Jacksonville, they can’t that’s not repetitive. You can’t have that pace all season. To Greg, to your point of things not being repetitive, not just the turnover stat, which definitely seems like that’ll come down a bit. But remember how how they had everybody fooled last year with their ability to win one-score games. They were 11-0 in one-score games last year, even though their numbers reflected something closer to the Giants. We thought, okay, well, that could be a skill when you have the GOAT under center. You see their record this season in one score game. Yeah, they lose them all. uh because that largely isn’t an ability, but Patrick Mahomes did what he had to do at the end of that game to win it. What do you make though of the fact that the Jags have 14 takeaways and no other team in the league has 10? Like that’s it’s just an it’s an enormous amount of turnovers that they’ve caused and and I don’t think it’s because their defense is that good. I mean, but the plays that they’re actually making, it doesn’t seem like super fluky. It’s not, you know, Arizona Cardinals Titans football’s bouncing off feet. I mean, they’re making really good plays. It’s not Bryce Young just throwing the ball, right, for Bradley Chub. There you go. Here’s a touchdown. I mean, it’s 14 like when everyone’s protecting the football and they’ve got 14. Trevor Lawrence has nine game-winning drives. They’ve got 14 turnovers in five games. They they lead in differential. They’re plus eight, but you have teams like the Steelers are plus seven. The Saints are plus five. The the Chiefs are plus4. these teams that are not having a lot of success in winning football games are also right near the top of the league in that differential. So, while their turnover rate in terms of causing them might go down, you would hope if you’re looking at this team, you’re 4 in one, that Trevor Lawrence’s turnover rate could potentially go down as well. That you could look at him as Liam Cohen and say, “Look at all the things we do well as a team. All you need to do is not mess it up. move. When When I say that Jacksonville was gifted that game, Kansas City’s offense was really good and it’s getting better. They were good last night. Mahomes was good and now they have Rashi Rice coming back next week. The issue is their defense was terrible last night. Special teams made errors. You know, penalties all over the field. Andy Reid had to be embarrassed by his team last night. Not because they lost, but how they lost. You must have had the Chiefs and and plus three minus three and a half. The way that you’re talking, you you had a terrible week picking games. I had a terrible week and there were six or seven games including Miami and Kansas City. There were six or seven teams that had doubledigit leads and all lost the game. And I think I was on the wrong side of all six or seven of those games. What did you end up going? Uh you always want us to talk about your picks around here. Only when I have a good week. What did you What did you end up having? Was it How bad a week was it? It was 4-10. 4-10 against the spread? No. Straight up. It might have been better. I haven’t figured it out yet. It probably was better against the spread the way my weekend went. But four and 10 worst ever. It affects your analysis. You do realize when you get emotional about your picks losing. You just called a game in which the Chiefs scored eight 28 points and Patrick Mahomes led what could have been the game-winning drive if Trevor Lawrence had just kept Trevor Lawrence in Yeah. and if the Kansas City defense had shown up for the
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48 comments
The hate and bias against Jacksonville continues. It’s OK we’re used to it and love being the underdogs. You guys just keep on talking , we’ll keep on winning.
What the hell, that is why they pay the QB all those millions. Haters be haters
QUESTION: What about the Chief's Defense and Offense pass interference that wasn't called by the refs?
An elite QB does not throw a pick 6 on a 1st and goal down. You understand?
The Chiefs are a mediocre team. They are NOT the same team 2 and 3 years ago. A 2-3 record is not a Super Bowl team. You understand?
QUESTION: Was it an accident for a team to beat the Texans, 49ers, and Chiefs all in 3 weeks?
Mike knows ball!! Dan and Greg are the ones who are high!
Jags had 4 penalties how are they undisciplined. What you are describing is not an issue of discipline it’s a lack of experience in prime time. That’s why this helps them beyond just a win.
sure the jaguars are "winning ugly" and cohen always addresses the ugly play and repeatedly says they need to clean it up BUT do you think (right now) they care especially after winning FOUR games last year with 9 of the 13 loses being 5 pts or less. they are finding ways to grind out wins. sure, its not sustainable right now, but no one knows how it will progress. thats the beauty of this game. there is so much parity with the mid to top teams right now that wins are hard to come by.
Stop hating the chiefs got 14pts off of no pi calls
Trevor just gets hate at this point cause no one ever wants to admit they could be wrong
You get a downvote, simply for not giving the Jaguars any sort of credit, Dan. My lord… regardless of some bad decisions by T-Law, he willed his team to a gritty win. Wildly undisciplined, cannot trust them, yet they beat the Texans, 49ers, AND the Chiefs, in primetime… "THEY'RE TALENTED"
Then, to say they were "Gifted" the win?? You only have one level-headed guy on this panel, and it's the one dude that lost 80,000.
PLUS, it is week 6, Dan… to still question what the Jaguars are doing on defense, is absolutely ridiculous.
Kick rocks, man.
Not giving the jags credit must be the new trend
Gifted.. gtfoh 😂
There's something to be said for learning how to win close games even if they're ugly. Especially considering how teams that are really bad usually find ways to lose. The fact that Lawrence and the Jags are in the first year of new schemes both offensively and defensively, I would expect improvement and cleaner play throughout the rest of the season. I mean they're already through their 2 toughest opponents: KC and at SF.
What about the TD the the refs game kc on the no call pi on Lawrence int?
We're going to shut yall up. Keep your hating ssa nuts crossed on us! Any team can get better except the Jags, huh? Stfu
The Hatred for Trevor Lawrence and The Jaguars is too real. They just refuse to give Jags their credit. I'm convinced they can go undefeated and win the Superbowl, and they'll still find a way to belittle their accomplishments.They said The Chiefs gifted the Jags that win, but the refs gifted the Chiefs 14 points. They called Jags undisciplined, but they only had 4 penalties and the Chiefs had 13 penalties. Who's really undisciplined? 🙄
What's with all of the "What if isims" The Jags left at least two scores off the board.
This is why I don’t trust these people because they all bet. There tainted!!!!!
ah yes, i forgot Trevor is supposed to have his foot stepped on by his guard and not fall down. my bad. what an idiotic take
The Jaguars showed us how to beat the Chiefs.
Jaguars go to San Fran and win. Then beat the chiefs on MNF. They are 4 and 1.
Sounds like Grandpa forgot to take his meds this morning. DUUUUVALLL
I can't listen to Dan the clown… The lineman stepped on his foot, he wasn't clumsy…
I think y'all gonnabeat ur words bro
How many QB that you know that got trip by his OL fell then fell again got up and run for a TD? lol
Watch the video again, he got stepped on, the national media is unbearable
This is easily the best collection of absolutely stupid takes.
Just focus on your 1-4 team.
his guard stepped on his foot, you saying he tripped over his guards foot tells me you didnt watch what happened so you're just bumping your gums.
Anyone coming at Dan and Co. for their takes about the Jags simply doesn't get the show.
Lebaturd, don’t let facts get in the way of your opinion. The guard stepped on Trevor’s foot. It’s really not that hard to say it, especially since it’s in this thing that just came out call video, tv, YouTube, pick one. But hey you have a agenda and facts don’t matter when people have an agenda
No mention of the fact that the Chiefs should have been flagged for PI to negate the interception that put them in the red zone. Jaguars were up 21-14 at that point and could have made it a 2 score game.
It’s cool …just keep winning and the hate will sound more and more forced until it sounds like straight up delusion
So this is what passes as analysis these days?! Chiefs gifted two massive calls, including the Lawrence INT! Trevor makes two incredible throws on the game winning drive! No mention of those. In ANY game with any QB there will be plays that don't go the way you want them to. What matters at the end of the day is a 'W' in the books.
imagine winning a game and getting clowned on more than the team you just beat. don't tell me sports media doesn't just judge teams based on Logos.
Dude got his foot stepped. I’m sure if you got your foot stepped on by a dude almost 300 lbs you’d fall over too
Le Bastard had TDS. Trevore Derangement Syndrome.
Why do they argue, if this happened and that didn't happen, the Chiefs would have won. Well, this DID happen, and that DIDN"T happen, and the Chiefs LOST. You can say that about every team and every game. Le Bastard is a stupid and simple man.
Who tf are these 🫏🎩’s?
You guys are HATING HARD 😂 circle back to me in 10 and tell me the Jags aren’t a serious team, or true contenders. Fins up crowd is coping haaaard rn
Just a fat non athlete from Miami who is bitter and can’t stop hating on Jacksonville.
He can’t let go of Jax beating Mia in the 99 playoffs and the city not having enough strip clubs and party areas for journalist when the Super Bowl was hosted here.
It's real. Look at Mahomes's face.
lol Dan you’d be tired Trevor is fine
Clown show, didn't they see the film? The guard stepped on his foot, he didn't FALL
This guy is a total farce. Nothing about the two PERFECT throws TLaw made on the final drive. Says that he tripped vs getting his foot STEPPED ON! STFU…..
The Jaguars were gifted that game? The Jaguars didn't punt in the second half. The Chiefs went punt, pick-six, punt until the bs int. Afterwards they went td, td end of game. The Jaguars went, td, pick-six, bs int, field goal, td. Yeah. They scored on every second half drive except for the bs pick.
I am honestly questioning this guys eyes or brain. That throw to Brown was not almost picked. It hit him in the chest it was a bang-bang play but it was on the money. To say that the were bailed out by the pi in endzone is crazy. Not playing the ball and preventing the receiver from raising his hands is being bailed out? No. I was the definition of pi. This guy is a joke.
These guys are ridiculous. There logic isn't logical. #DTWD