Matas Buzelis Scores 20, but Chicago Bulls Outclassed by Nuggets | CHGO Bulls Postgame

Matas Buzelis Scores 20, but Chicago Bulls Outclassed by Nuggets | CHGO Bulls Postgame

What up, Bulls Nation? We’ve got a live stage show Bulls postgame coming up right around the corner. The Bulls fall to the Nuggets in Denver tonight. 124 117 was the final. Modest Buzzel has had a block party. Josh Giddy stuffed the stat sheet, but the Bulls defense hoof. We’ll talk about it with y’all next. [Music] [Applause] [Music] Heat. Heat. [Music] What’s going on, Bulls Nation? Welcome in to the CSU Bulls postgame coming to you live from our studios here in West Loop, downtown Chicago. I’m PC. Bulls_p. That’s big day. Bam. PWL sports will the godly. Will and king of controls Joey C hanging out tonight with us. What up, Joey? Forget about it. Okay, don’t forget about season. It’s the pre season Bulls postgame presented by Michelob Ultra and Bet 365. The delicious taste of victory deserves something equally superior cheer on your team with Michelob Ultra. And download that Bet365 app. Be sure to use promo code CSO365 when you sign up. Whatever the moment, it’s never ordinary at bet 365. All right, Bulls Nation, thanks for being here. If you stayed up late for preseason Bulls basketball, shout out to you. You are a true bull sicko like us. Yes. And we thank you and we love you. You This is your home. That’s right. Yes. Four preseason games down, one to go. Uh you know who’s going to be good this year? Tell me. The Denver Nuggets. Talking point. 124 117 again. Was the final score. Wasn’t that close in the minutes that counted. Uh there were some mopup stuff going on in the fourth quarter. Yeah, we saw a lot of Javon Carter in the fourth. We saw some Lachland in the fourth. Oh, crazy. We saw Emanuel Miller one one half a tooth down out there still hooping in the fourth. Um but essentially the Bulls have been digging themselves holes like out of the gate in each of their preseason games so far. Recurring theme. It was a theme for this team last year. Big deficits early. They make comebacks sometimes and it’s fun to watch a comeback. Mhm. There was no comeback tonight until garbage time. Uh cuz the Nuggets are good and the Bulls defense is bad. Dave, how many free throws did the Bulls concede to the Nuggets? cuz I think it was all of them in the history of basketball. I was going to say 5 41 41 to 28. The Nuggets as a team shot just above 90% from the line on 41 attempts. That’s a lot. They made 27 or 37 free throws to the Bulls 22. Um just talking about physicality with this team. Billy’s been harping on it a lot from media day on and physicality sometimes leads to lots of fouls. It does. The Bulls committed 32 fouls as a team tonight, which against a a offense that is so clinical and so locked in. Yeah. The Nuggets maybe have a new piece or two to figure around, but they got Joic, they got Murray, they got Gordon, uh the the newbie Cam Johnson, who they got in the MPJ trade that like that is an offense just humming on all cylinders and the Bulls defense could do nothing against it. I mean, yeah. And not many teams can uh against that kind of offense. But, you know, it’s it’s good to have these games or at least this is how I look at it. It’s good to have these games early on, especially in preseason because you kind of want to just you know where your team is. You can say it, you know what I mean? You can think it, but it when you get out there on the floor and the ball’s rolled out there, like it’ll show you exactly where you kind of are and what we got to work on. And I mean that defense and like you mentioned, man, just that intensity is great, but it has to be kind of controlled and confined and it has to be like a defensive scheme, you know what I’m saying, that they’re all uh doing out there. And again, it’s a process for this team because they’re changing kind of their identity, especially on that side of the basketball. We saw last year it wasn’t really truly a thing. It was more let’s see if we get the rebound or get the steal and then get out here and run. Now we’re going to be playing like straight up defense and you’re going to have to talk and Stacy was definitely vocalizing that correctly uh when he was when he was speaking. They’ve got to talk to each other out there on the floor. You got you got to talk about the back screen that’s coming. You got to let guys know if there’s somebody uh from your own team that’s behind there that will stop the guy if he’s getting to the bucket or if it’s on you or not. You got to know how many fouls you got. Like, you know, all these little things you got to know. You saw Billy doing his job of talking to those players. You saw him talking to Iodumu. Uh I think that’s why Isaac Coro uh didn’t get a lot of run cuz he struggled for sure uh out there. So, we saw Dalon Terry more so in that role. But yeah, defensively they have some things to definitely work on. They had a bright spot we’ll get into later. But defensively overall though, go they it just feels like that scheme is still being taught and still being learned. You know, I think part of it is just the scheme, but I also think that like at a certain point it’s going to be hard to be an elite defense if you don’t have elite defensive players. And like two plus two is four kids. Yeah. I’m not trying to like be super harsh with that, but I just think like their whole thing over the last couple years and I think will continue to be the case this year is that they’re going to have to compete um and get to a level that is above the sum of their parts, right? And you can do that in a couple of different ways. Zack Low and Akias Duncan were just talking about this on their on Zach’s podcast um about just like keeping things simple and just like executing the scheme every single time down. There’s a floor that you can get to with that. And I think the Bull that’s kind of like who the Bulls need to be. there aren’t a lot of guys um except for one who we’ll talk about that are like really defensive disruptors who are like taking away things. And so if you can just be in the right place at the right time consistently, not give up like the home run plays, you’re going to be okay. But also, there’s going to be nights where you play against teams that are really good or have really talented players, and those players are just going to be better than any individual or team defense that you can throw at them. And that’s just the way the NBA works. like great offensive talent is always going to beat great defense. That’s just how it goes. Um and I think especially it becomes difficult when you’re either giving up a lot of threes, giving up a lot of offensive rebounds, or giving up a lot of fouls. And that’s what they did tonight. That was the real problem. You look at the box score and Murray 10 for 10 from the free throw line. Jokic four for four, Johnson five for five, Gordon 3 for three, Peyton Watson 6 for seven, Tim Hardaway 5 for six, Jonas Valentin is three for four. I mean, 37 of 41 as a team is insane. And we talk a lot over the last couple years about the margins, the three-point gap between the Bulls and their opponents, the turnover gap. I mean, that was a huge one tonight. Nine for the Nuggets, 18 for the Bulls. Like, if you are conceding 15 points at the line and giving up twice as many turnovers, it’s just going to be hard to win no matter how many threes you make. And unfortunately for the Bulls, they only made 13 of 38. So, um, just a really tough game on the margins for them, but it’s tough going against really elite teams and this this, you know, Nuggets offense is just incredible. Yeah, losing the possession battle and having your opponent get up uh almost a double- digit number of additional field goal attempts to yours and the free throw line disparity, as you pointed out, go, it’s not going to win you many games with that formula. And early it started with the Nuggets just getting any and all looks inside that they wanted. the final uh points of the paint disparity. Nuggets still won it, but 54 to 46 I’ve seen worse, but it was just the way that that’s how they chose to start their offense, Dave. And look, you know, a lot of Bulls fans have been harping on Vu for years on the defensive side of the ball. And when Vu gets switched on to somebody that he can’t guard, it spells trouble for the Bulls defense. It does. Almost every single time. So like coming into this season and talking all about the defensive identity this team needs to establish and like that piece still being here like Vu has been a punching bag for a lot of Bulls fans for what he can’t do defensively and it’s like okay but this is the guy that you signed uh and is still here. Yes, he’s coming into the expiring year of his contract but he’s still here. He’s still your starting center. Some Bulls fans I’ve seen on Twitter the last few days be like why is V starting like they have? It’s like well well he’s still better. So, but on the defensive side of the ball, well, like what do you make of VU’s role in the Bulls defense per, you know, per chance being bad this year? I mean, again, well, let’s also give the caveat here. He’s going against Nola Jokic out there for sure. So, that’s going to be a issue. Tricky stuff. Little little tricky dealing with somebody like that. But it was when Joic wasn’t in there, we still saw certain things happening like you saw that picky set back that I was laughing at where he just pushed Jamal Bur Jamal Bur shoved him you know what I’m saying like almost to the ground uh with two hands and was like all right oh what foul like yeah foul so I mean he had 10 rebounds I feel like that’s the defense that you’re going to get you know from a guy like Vu is his rebounding that’s the way he’s going to you know stop the run or stop teams on that side of the basketball. He has never been a guy, Matt, as you just say, he’s never been that guy defensively. He’s never going to be a guy that’s going to be that stopper. I remember when all the defense was being funneled to him uh in in the defensive, they used to run and people were on his ass uh about it, but it was just what do you want him to do? Like he’s just not that guy. He’s never going to be that guy like that. So this season though, Matt, it might be a little more glaring because the focus being defense means it’s going to be on everyone. So it might be a little more glaring for Vu. I expect him to be a little better, you know, when the season starts. I think he’s chilling right now. Um, just play the Montenegro, you know. I think he’s chilling right now, but that’s not to say his defense is just going to immediately become, you know, just amazing out there. It’s still going to be Nola Vuch style of defense. But I think you’re going to see him get exposed on some nights for sure. And some things will be asked of him that will be tough for sure, without a doubt in my opinion. But I think the rebounding is exactly where he will find his bread and butter as far as helping this team defensively because it won’t be blocking shots. Maybe it will be um just staying in front of his man and allowing guys like Misellis to come with the help defense. that could that could be a thing also that that he does. But just in general though, Vuch has always struggled with defense and in a year where the focus is going to be something you’ve always struggled in, you’re you’re going to see a little bit of it be glaring out there, I think. Yeah. And again, like I don’t think BC needs to be this like incredible rim protector or like this, you know, he doesn’t need to turn into like prime Rudy Gobear out there, but he needs to execute the scheme. And I think, you know, I probably will give him a little bit more grace than some of these other, especially younger players who are like still kind of fighting for their NBA lives. BH had, as you mentioned, the uh offseason stuff going on with his national team. Um he’s obviously the oldest player on the team, you know, like he I think he’ll ease into it. To me, the like I don’t want to say concerning thing, but the thing that I’m monitoring with him is the three-point shooting. Um, you know, I I don’t have all the game logs up right now, but um I don’t believe over the course of the four preseasons game, he’s shot very well from three, only one of three tonight. Um, and like I mean, 29% two years ago, 40% last year. Is it going to fall somewhere in the middle? Is it going to be one of the extremes? I really do feel like the way that he shot opened up so much of the floor for the Bulls offense. Um, and they really need that out of their center. So, like Collins can come in um and he can make some threes. He he’s a good screener. He can do a lot of that same stuff. But I really feel like that dynamic three-point shooting element. And then the ability to take them off the dribble, get downhill, make decisions is really really valuable for how the Bulls want to play offensively. You can do some of that without a spacing big, but I I think it becomes way easier when you have that floor spacing. And um I hope BHC can have some level of consistency where it doesn’t need to be 40% but like can you be above 36 37% for the whole year um and just give the the offense that sort of baseline. Yeah, I feel like this is a question that maybe needs more time to to dive into, but I’m going to ask it now anyway like because we haven’t really talked because we I think we all have kind of just been like you give him some time. You know what I mean? Like it’s all right. We saw what you were doing and what you did in the summer as you just mentioned. Former all-star by the way. Come on, man. But I I’m asking you all like do you have or where is your level if any of concern for Nola Vuvich after watching, you know, these preseason games that he has? Or is there any level of concern for you at all from him? No, I mean concerned because this is what he looks like in the preseason. No. If he looks like this through their first 10 regular season games, then I’ll be like, what is have we arrived at the vouch, you know, steep decline part of his career, then we can have that conversation in preseason games. Yeah. And and the only reason I’m asking is because we’ve I’m speak for myself. I wanted to see games out of certain players, right, on the floor. Like I wanted to see Giddy have that game. I wanted to see Mis have that game. I own what he’s doing. I wanted to see uh Lee Patrick Williams have the games that he’s had. Do you want to see one game from Vouch? Are you just like, “Dude, I’m not tripping on it, bro.” Like, even with the defense and all that kind of stuff when the ball goes up game one against Detroit next week, okay? I will watch Vuch in that game and see what he looks like. I’m going to give him a pass in preseason games. Okay. And maybe that’s like not fair or whatever. And like it does it hinder your ability to look at what this team looks like if Vu is out there halfass in it. If that’s what’s happening, maybe. I guess. But this team has so many challenges it will face this season to put it kindly that right now Vuch is not on my radar. No. But but his being who he is on the defensive end still very much a problem for this team and it’s defense as a whole and I don’t know how that’s going to change. Uh before we head to our first break, just wanted to quickly again shout out and thank each and every one of you who have subscribed to the CHO Sports YouTube channel. We crossed 90,000 subscribers a couple days ago. 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A lot of fouling put the Nuggets on the line a zillion times uh and dug themselves that hole that basically existed through all the meaningful minutes the first three quarters. Um people in the chat are also talking about Isaac Aoro. Kyle Williams saying Isaac Aoro aka Cleill. You like that? You like that? I like that. I like that. Uh, DNP coach’s decision. That’s mean. Trash in his defensive prowess is grossly overstated. Uh-oh. See red Fred, you hear somebody’s throwing bows. Thank you for saying that though, real quick, cuz see Fred literally just tweeted me and said, “If a cororo keeps playing like this, you might have to work your magic and change his name to Jimmy Isaac.” Oh, Fred’s already already thinking about jumping off the Aoro train. He’s just like he keeps playing this back. He has been aggressively driving down Bulls fans throats on Twitter since that happened. It’s early. It’s early. It’s early. Alejandro in the chat wondering why did Aoro sit the second half. Uh our guy French Bulls fans saying AO didn’t even play 10 minutes. Did he pick up an injury? So yeah. Um, in case you missed that little detail, Dalon Terry started in place of Aoro to start the second half and Aoro did play just 10 minutes in tonight’s game. Uh, I don’t know if we had any Bulls beat boots on the ground cuz this was a game in Denver. Um, I didn’t see anybody from the be tweeting about tonight’s game as if they were there and pro. So, we might have to wait until the next time goat, you and your fellow beat members get a chance to talk to Billy about what that is about. If it was, oh, like a tweaked ankle or a this you know, appendage hurt, right? And that’s why they sat him because it’s preseason, so let’s be cautious. Because to me, that makes more sense as an answer compared to Billy didn’t like Aoro’s play so much that he benched him for the second half when some of the other starters and primary rotation guys did get second half minutes, spec specifically third quarter minutes. Like, look, did I think Auroro looked great tonight? No. but benchworthy in a preseason game. I my educated guess would be that he had some sort of minor injury that they just sat him out of precaution. But that’s just a guess right now. Yeah. And it’ll be until we find out, you know, what’s going on. But I mean, we also saw, you know, uh Josh Giddy uh sit in the second half of a preseason game. Um even though Billy was like, “No, he’ll get more minutes. Just want to get him acclimated and things like that.” But you still come have a seat, you know, is what he said. And it felt like Aoro had a kind of game where it lends itself to you uh thinking in that kind of way that he would take him out even though it’s just a preseason game. He’s going to be important. He’s an important piece of this defense. He was brought in here to help change the culture of that defense. When I was talking to my guy Bob Smith, make Smith, make sure you’re listening to the Fear the Pro podcast. I asked him about uh is it fair to put that on Isaac Auroro that he is the guy that will be changing the culture of the defense here for the Chicago Bulls and he said I don’t know if it’s fair but it’s something he wants he he he’s the kind of guy that wants those kind of things. So if you want those kind of things and that comes with it, this is kind of what it’s going to look like if it doesn’t go well because he can be a tone setter, you know, for that defense out there for the team. But he’s going to have to do it every night. If anything, the defense has to be there from that guy every single night. If you’re the tone setter and you’re the guy I’m immediately thinking about, Alex Caruso. If Alex Guso went 0 for 20, you can better believe the defense was going to still be okay. You know what I mean? like he’d still be a plus one. Exactly. Exactly. So, it has to be like that, man. Because you’re the one you have to set that kind of tone and be out there, you know, for this team who is not going to be really great defensively. Uh, so my question kind of my my question kind of revolves around Billy Donovan and AK’s relationship, right? We’re like, AK AK, what’s that? I said, oh, goody. Good. Right. Okay. So, look like we make the trade in the offseason. Isaac Aoro leaves the Cleveland Cavaliers. In my opinion, the Cleveland Cavaliers want to win ball games this year, want to compete, so they’re just jettisoning a guy off their roster. Championship aspirations. Okay. All right. So, having said that, right, like and then Billy Donovan, what I noticed last year with Modis, especially in that first half of the year, really made the rookie earn his minutes for sure. But this is a different story, right? Like Aoro’s been in the league like in your opinion, a young player with experience, as AK likes to say. Is Billy Donovan at all beholdened to the Aoro move to make it fulfill his boss’s wishes of making this trade look good or is this have nothing to do with it and he can just bury him on the bench? What is the calculus there with Billy Donovan that he has to strike with Isaac Aoro because he’s not a rookie that needs to earn it, right? This dude needs to show up and as you said be a tone setter and make a difference. So, uh it is a very good and fascinating question. Can I just start with what we’ve actually heard about this and then we can and then we can um I was just going to make a snarky comment and then pitch it to you, but you take it away. Which is beholding. Shout out to using that. So yeah, that is a Dave special. That is a Dave special. Shout out cuz I think it’s worth like having our own speculations about it too. But I also wanted to just talk about what Billy has seen from Auroro and said about him, okay, so far, which is everything that we’re talking about here. Uh really appreciating the way that he has set the tone physically in practices. uh he’s talked very highly about him in terms of his IQ, his cutting, his ability to like make the right reads on offense. Um so, you know, it’s been a short amount of time. It’s been just training camp where they’ve worked together. Um I know Arturus and Billy, to your question, Joey, have a very good relationship. And I think if there were a situation where Arturus really wanted a specific player to play, then he would make that known. But I don’t think that like he’s really in the way or in the coaching office like telling Billy Donovan how many minutes to give each guy. Um I think that that kind of thing can happen down the stretch of a season. That’s probably part of the reason why we started to see more of Modis. And to his credit, he earned more of those minutes. Yes. Um but I think like what Billy wants is to be in a partnership with the front office where if he feels like there’s something that he needs on the team, he can work with them to try to find that. and vice versa. If the team feels like they are going to try to decide about how they value a certain player, if they’re going to trade somebody, whatever, then they’ll come to Billy and ask us for his opinion about it. To me, like there was all this stuff about does Billy not want to go through a rebuild? Is that why he left Oklahoma City? To me, it was always about like the relationship and being part of like a working group together. That’s what he’s always said. Um, and so, however that looks throughout the course of a season, I think that can change. But for me, um, like in this specific instance, it felt more like something happened. I was just trying to rewatch the game tape and see if, um, I noticed any injuries. It didn’t, nothing like, you know, came up. He got switched on to Joic, um, in like basically his second to last possession. Obviously gave up a layup there because Joic is about, you know, nine inches taller. Um, and then he like kind of ran down to the other side um, and camped out in the quarter on the possession. Then he was taken out. So, I don’t know if there was an injury. I don’t know what. Um, but even like in a pre-season game, you’d think that he would maybe come back in like yeah, down the stretch when they’re playing some of the other guys just to get him more minutes, 10 minutes. Um, that’s a little surprising to me. So, I would guess there was some sort of an injury. Um, but obviously we won’t know until we or maybe it was just the fact that he committed four fouls in nine minutes and change and Bill was like, “You know what, buddy? That’s a lot of fouls. Why? That’s that’s possible.” But I just I would be surprised by that in a preseason game. Well, and just the other thing I wanted to add to Joey’s original question about it because I think it is worth exploring and each player in each situation is different, but like that’s the same reason I think that Pat started 36 games before finally getting benched last season. Yeah. What about his play last season said, “Yeah, he should keep starting 30 nearly halfway into the season it took for Billy to finally be like, “Yo, Pat, yeah, sorry, man, but have a seat.” Yeah, because I’m pretty sure we were screaming for him to be benched well before the 36 game mark. Safe to say. So, do I think that some of that and Pat starting for that many games last season had something to do with the fact that he was freshly signed on five years 90? Yeah, I think that had a nonzero amount to do with it as far as Isaac Aoro and like oh like AK needs Aoro to look good and to work look like a player that they won the trade. So, he’s going to tell Billy to start a Cororo, play a Coro. Maybe. We’ll see. It’s also just like, yo, like who on this team wants to prove that they’re a valuable player who’s going to help them win every night? Yes. Cuz there’s there’s depth, but it’s like he just got worked tonight by one of the truly quality teams in the league. The depth is like Dalen Terry coming in and like slicing up against, you know, Jaylen Picket and slicing Hunter Tyson in the last four minutes of the game and cutting the lead from 24 to seven. Javon Carter and also I mean I want to leave out that Trey Jones wasn’t there that Kevin Herder wasn’t there and that Kobe Bulls were missing a lot of guys tonight. No Kobe, no Trey, no Herder not really helping like defense except probably Trey Jones. But even more, but still even more the reason why I feel like Aora would have come back in. Okay. Cuz they were just missing so many guys. But I don’t know. I mean 10 minutes is just such a suspect number to me. Yeah. Yeah. It is strange. Like and this was we talked about this prior to last game I think. Like the starters were going to be playing more minutes. They actually played into the fourth quarter like halfway through the fourth quarter. Modis played 30. Uh IO played 28. He was a starter. Um Giddy played 29. So, Aoro getting 10 minutes as a starter is it’s very very strange. Very strange. We’ll see. We’ll see what happens there. Um, but yeah, it was rough. Uded in the chat saying it sucks when they’ve been practicing taking charges and they try, but most of it so far has been called as fouls. They did successfully draw one charge tonight. I believe it was no. IO. I saw IO draw one. Yeah. It was uh he drew it against Christian Brown. He drew one, but I think his his like heels were on the charge circle. Oh, so they did. Okay. Should we start like a conversion rate of like blocks versus charges to see like are they just accumulating more fouls or is this is this teaching practice actually working? It’s nuts. Go. You mentioned to our pel Jake uh shout out who’s hanging out with us for the first half of tonight’s action at the office. Uh the stat about the Bulls as a team managing just what 13 charges taken all of last season. Dave, like I just watched Jake’s brain explode. You’re talking about an 82 game season and your team took 13 charges. The OKC Thunder led the league. I think the number was 68. So like these are plays that are not happening once a game. Thunder. These are plays that are not happening one time per game. Yeah. So um yeah, I think they can improve there, but it’s like not meaningfully changing their defensive identity. Yeah. Yeah. I know one thing it needs to change is the likes. It’s 146. Shout out to you who are in there hanging out with us, baby. Keep that climbing. But those likes have got to match that. Make sure you’re hitting the like button. Troll troll is always lurking. All right. Always lurking. Somebody in the chat asked Joey Cy if he was also a troll. Joey. And I confirmed not true. Greek. Greek man. Not a troll. Not troll. Greek. Are those mutually exclusive? You could be a troll or Greek, but you couldn’t be a a Greek troll. Well, Joey was was was Greek. I think Joey’s got some Greek in Young Smreek in his blood. Yeah. Yeah. We looked into each other’s eyes or each other’s eyebrows. We looked into each other’s eyebrows and we knew right away. 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Sign sign him to a 10day. You got one more preseason game left. I’ve heard that Billy Donovan is not beholden to Okay, just throw him out there. Throw that can out there. [Music] Um, well done. All right. Uh, let’s let’s let’s talk about the uh the shining beacon of hope uh for for the Bulls uh or at least from from this Bulls fan’s eyes, your sanity. Yep. Mhm. Hanging by a thread. Uh, Mod Bales, guys. The Rook no the rook no more. The fresh 21-year-old by the way turned 21 the other day. Shout out M. Congratulations. I would love to buy you a beer sometime. Um, 20 points on seven of 12, three of seven from downtown. Knocked down all three of his free throws. Few boards. Did have four turnovers on a night when again uh the Bulls as a team were plagued by it. Vu had five. How does he how do you have five turnovers as your center? Uh Giddy had four, but five blocks. What What excited you more, Dave? The the continuation of what we’ve seen from Modis offensively in this stretch of preseason games where he looks to be playing within the Bulls offense confidently and comfortably picking and choosing the right times to make great cuts off the ball, initiate when he is on the ball, or the fact that the Bulls defensively as a team tonight looked like trash. But you said you wanted to see Modis make those defensive leaps in year two just as much if not more than make him watch him make those offensive leaps. So what did you like more the 20 points or the five blocks? Oh I mean the five blocks without a doubt. I love the five blocks more. The points I’ve seen him do and and like I said when I gave that prove it that I knew that that was going to come. I knew the points were going to come. Those amazing plays were going to come. Shout out to that alleyoop with uh Josh Giddy. those things are going to happen because he’s just that good in my opinion. I wanted to see the growth defensively because that for me is really where it elevates and where really takes notice around the league. So, and I love that he was doing it in in in a bunch of ways, man. Like a myriad of ways he did it when you guys are trying to take him to the hole, try to go for the layup. No, sir. Guys are trying to cut to the lane on Vu. Need some help? Got you there. You know what I mean? Try to get you a little fade away on him or something. Nope. gonna get that, too. Like, I love that he’s doing it everywhere because that’s when it gets frustrating because you can’t just treat him like a center and a a center who blocks shots because the center who block shots, you could say, “Well, I’m about to bring you out here and we about to dance.” We saw that with Rudy Goar and Luca Donuch. You can’t do that with him. He’s looking to dance. He’s like, “Well, let me lead. What we doing the tango? What we want to do? I want to dance cuz you’re going to get these blocks.” So, I really appreciated that and it really excited me to see it get to five because, you know, my goal was 150 blocks for him. He had 75 as a rookie. Man, that is impressive for a guy that wasn’t starting. Now, to do who I expect to be playing like almost 30 minutes a game or over 30 plus minutes a game and he’s getting five blocks in this time cuz he played literally 30 minutes tonight and got those five blocks. It was impressive for me, man. It shows that he also has that motor. He has that engine cuz if he’s doing it on the offensive end, Matt, where he was creating his own, and he was doing that, he was creating his own and getting to the bucket with those layups and he was shooting his threes. If he’s doing that, plus being a deterrent and a problem and an issue on the defensive side of the basketball, you’ve got yourself a stew going. All right. So, I was really, really proud more so defensively than what I know he’s going to be uh than what he did offensively. I um trying to look this up right now, but there I’m not finding the right filter, but 84 games last year. Yeah. Where a player had five blocks. 84 total games over the course of every single team last season. Half of them are probably one Mama. Yeah. The other half are probably some combination of like Miles Turner and Chad Holgrren. Go Bear. Go Bears in there. I mean, that’s like that’s incredible. But like those names aside from like Amen Thompson and like I don’t know, you could maybe throw Mobly into this category since he’s like technically a four. They’re all centers. Yeah. Like that kind of room protection from a non- center player. Um and that’s what I wrote about in our instant reaction story which is on our website. You should go check that out. Check it out. It’s just really impressive and frankly it’s special. there aren’t a lot of guys that can do that kind of thing. And so that just opens up doors for you defensively. I’m not saying that like modest is going to be the reason the Bulls have a good defense. They were down 24 in this game. Like let’s not get too far ahead of ourselves. But like having that form of rim protection from your four, having guys that can slide over and protect a center that isn’t a rim protector, right? Um that just really adds another element to uh your defense. And so I think that that’s the kind of skill set that the Bulls can sort of start to build their defense around. Um he played great. I do think that there are areas especially on the perimeter where he needs to improve. Uh getting beat, sliding his feet, getting over screens, containing ball handlers, funneling them into help the right direction, like all that stuff. There’s times where he gets beat badly. And that just like I mean to me that those are areas that he needs to improve. like if he if he wants to be coached like a you know uh all defensive team player like that’s he wants to hear that stuff. So, um I know he wants to fix it, but um I I I don’t want to sit here and say like he got five blocks in a game, so he’s an elite defensive player cuz it’s there’s more to it than that. But certainly the skill set um is one that the Bulls really need. And it’s one that’s really rare in the NBA, especially when you pair it with somebody who can, you know, score 20 shooting over 50% from the field, making multiple threes. Like that’s just I mean he’s that’s a unicorn type of player. Exactly. And that Yes. what he said. And that what leads you to be a NBA star because that’s what that’s how it goes. You know what I mean? When you’re doing those things that like damn, you know who the only guys who do these kind of things is this kind of guy, this kind of guy, this kind of guy. And you just naming dudes who are literally like some of the best in the league. That’s how you become the NBA star like that, man. So, yes, him scoring and the handles, of course, that goat always talked about having the handles like that. That layup he’s he really has put been putting together his layup package. I don’t know if everybody’s been looking at that. his layup package has been really serious uh for him this preseason, man. So, I’m really liking that. But that with the handles, Matt, and then hitting the spot up three, you know what I’m saying? When guys are finding him along with the high-flying buckets that he’s got with Josh Giddy, along with the defense that you got to worry about on the other end. Because I’m immediately while while God is speaking, I’m thinking about games like when we get to the fourth quarter and it’s a few seconds left and guys need to get a shot off and I’m like Modus is in the game. Nope. This is going to be a problem for you to do to try to get that shot off even when you’re trying to go one-on-one with him man. Like it’s going to be an issue. That’s what the excitement becomes. That’s why his sanity is hanging by a thread. And that thread is named Modest Boozelis, man. Because he has been really awesome, man. I’m excited. I’m excited about him, bro. Uh yeah. I mean, the You talk about the layup package. Yeah. First bucket of the game. Yeah. M just boom, got it. Go lefty. Yep. The finger rolls we’ve already seen. And then how about that other great offball cut he made? He was like around the left elbow and then boom diagonal dash cut uh uh down and like received the pass from the left side baseline and then little you know uh layup from left to right using the rim as a little bit of a shield like very heads up and and and a nice finish there. You also mentioned the ball handling Dave and there were a few different times tonight where I saw Modis put the ball on the floor. He was I isoed out uh like right around like you know the break of the three-point line on the right side and I think one time he had Aaron Gordon on him. I can’t remember who was who was checking him the other time but like put a couple of tight dribbles between his legs sizing this guy up one-on-one and then I think usually would like swing it back out to whoever it was Giddy or whoever at the top of the key. Um I love that I’m seeing a more confident and tight handle from Modis in these preseason games. I I just I’m selfish and greedy and my sanity is hanging by a thread on Mus becoming a star in this league. So like there were a couple of times where I wished he would have after those first confident couple of tight dribbles just like shoulder down. Get to the basket, attack, attack, attack, draw a foul, get to the line or get to the bucket. And he I feel like he pulled back from that a couple of times tonight. But because I’m starting to see some improvement in his ball handling, just makes me want to see the next step of what comes with ball handles that are that tight. Boom. After that, boom, boom, splat. So, I I got a little bit more uh from our friends over at at Stat. Let’s go. Um, I believe the number I’ve gone even to a next thing, but I think the number was 35 different players had a five block game last year. But then I narrowed it down to five blocks and three made three-pointers. Who knew that was going to be Who knew that was going to be so exciting to you guys? Uh, so obviously Webby did that. Uh, WBY led the league with 10 of them. Yeah, I was going to say one player had two such games. That would be playing tonight’s game. That would be Miles Turner. Oh, Miles Turner. And then um Mo Bomba did it once, Kevin Durant did it once, Keshan George did it once, Draymond, Chedgrren, Brook Lopez, Chris Absoringis, and like some nice company looking at and I’ve seen like stats like this before where it’s like free throw percentage and block shots or you know threes, free throws, and it’s like I wonder if like the Porzingis Jiren Jackson Jr. is sort of the mold that he’s gonna move towards. Um I think Jiren’s like I mean he was a defensive player of the year. He’s incredible on the perimeter. I think that’s an area where as I just mentioned Modus needs to continue to improve. But I don’t think that he is sort of the purely drop big that like a Brook Lopez or a Porzingis are. I feel like it’s kind of somewhere in the middle. But I mean that’s a super rare player. Those are the kind of guys that you like everybody wants. It’s maybe not your number one option, but it’s the guy who unlocks a lot of the things that Hallebertton does. And Miles Cern allows you to have that space floor and protect the rim and, you know, make up for, you know, some shaky defense at times. Um, obviously when one um it could, you know, I don’t think he’s like quite in the like shot creation mold. Obviously, like there’s a there’s levels to it, but like the Kevin Durant stuff, I I think he’s probably I mean, he does have more like shake than some of these guys in terms of like shot creation, but I don’t I mean, he’s not going to average 25 30 a night for 15 years. Maybe I’m wrong. Um, but I don’t know. I think that’s kind of like the mold where you can grow into that and like I can actually see him being one of those kind of players. And now if he started to add some of that other stuff, things get really interesting. But like again those are not so when we talk about like does Mus have star potential to me I’m not saying he’s going to be the next Kevin Durant he’s going to be the next you know what whoever but I think he has this incredibly interesting and valuable skill set that is probably like secondary you know Jiren Jackson to John Morant uh you know whatever other example Miles Turner to Hallebertton like okay incredibly valuable type of player who’s not the one that’s generating and driving all of your offense But that can give you 20 and I think that’s I mean that’s just such a valuable player. Hey Will, can I follow up really quick? We got a question from Abe the Bulls fan saying Will, if you were coach, what would you have Modus be focusing on? Would it be rebounding? Anything you wanted to add to the point you were already making, but answer his question. Yeah, I mean I think rebounding is a big one, especially if you’re going to be playing the four and like maybe they do get to a point where he’s able to play some five and you’ve got the wings out there with maybe Noah evolving a little bit. Um Kobe, IO, and Giddy. like that could be an interesting lineup. Um, and if you are going to do that, like Giddy’s a very good rebounder. He helps, but like you have to be able to rebound if you’re going to play center. And Mattis has done pretty well at that. He’s I wouldn’t say he’s great yet, but um that’s something that I think he can improve on and does pretty well. It’s not I wouldn’t say a weakness in his game. To me, I think like the big things that Billy is working on with him and has been working on with him and I think Modis really needs to continue to work on is just making the right reads in the moment in the flow of the offense. That’s how he got his whole it wasn’t like clear everybody get the ball to Madison and clear out and let let him cook. It was like running the lane and getting easy layups and like that builds over the course of a game. I mean, he’s he was seven of 11 in the first game. I think he was six of 11 last game and seven of 12 today. Like that’s how you create efficient offense. get to the line a few times. All that stuff is like in the flow. It’s not asking too much of him in terms of his creativity, his ability to generate offense. That’s where I think you get into trouble with some young players, especially on teams where you’re just rolling the ball out and like not trying to compete for wins, which obviously the Bulls are not doing. So, I think that’s a big one. And then what I want to see eventually is like more ball handling opportunities. So, I’d be working on that with him, especially the passing reads in pick and rolls. Like, he’s got to work up to it. He’s got to like get the opportunity first. Um, and then start to understand pulling def defenses over, making the right read to the weak side corner. Like that’s that’s the stuff that turns guys into stars, right? Like he’s got the ability to finish plays, he can make threes, he can dunk, he can run the court, he has some rim protection stuff we’ve just talked about, but if he’s like creating his own offense and then creating offense for his teammates, that’s where you get into like real star tur. I’m not saying I want to like see him running the show like that, but I do want to see him get a handful of those possessions on a nightly basis where he’s starting to get practice with those reps. Right. Makes sense. Uh Kyle Williams saying he isn’t the next anything. He’s the first modest bisellis. Talk that. Good. I like that. Talk that. Good take. I’m just talking more about like what kind of archetype does he fill? Right. Yeah. Understood. Um, so, oh guys, our friend Ant-Man Melo Hi Mitchell Hero is here in the chat. Mitchell, hey, can we show some love to Zack Hollins and P Will also saying that P Will was left for dead and he’s been a bright spot. Uh, look, I I I thought Pat was fine tonight. It wasn’t the most that I felt he’s impacted a game and, you know, maybe notice him out there compared to some of his other strong minutes in that we’ve seen in these four preseason games. But an another night in which and I think somebody else in the chat just pointed this out. P Will had a bunch of dimes and maybe maybe it was Rob Antel, one of everybody in the chat pointed that out. F five more assist for Pat who had five the other night. Yes. Which like Okay, cool. Um he also had a bunch of turnovers the other night and only one tonight. So credit to Pat for that. Zack Collins 11 and5 uh in 17 minutes off the bench. Couple of steals in a block. 115. Yeah, don’t sleep. You saw it. Don’t just sleep on it. You know, there was there was some decent stuff from the Bulls bench tonight. They they fared better than the Bulls starters by a lot. Yeah. And that’s been kind of the MMO like for this preseason. Like again, they get off to a slow start. The bench kind of comes in and then they get everything together. We’re not good, but we’re deep. Yeah. But and more so reason. More so reasons why I was like, “Yeah, this is why I want IO to not start.” You know, this is why I want Isaakuro to not start. Yeah. You know, I want those guys coming off the bench cuz, you know, you can get off to that slow start and then, you know, guys got to get their way back in. No, no, no. Let’s get Let’s get that bench going and stuff like that. I’d rather leave the starters to guys like Modis and and to Giddy and to Kobe White uh to do their things for sure. But yeah, man. Like I I like what Lee was doing out there. Lee Patrick was doing his thing. I thought Lee Patrick was impressive, man. like he was physical more so than I had seen him. Watching him box out several times. I watched him box out. I was like, “Look at what he’s doing. He’s boxing out. Look at this. Oh my god.” Like he was getting up on defenders. Like he’s yelling at the refs. He was upset at calls that were happening. Like it’s just I’m not used to seeing it. And again, the bar is low. The bar is very low. But I I’m just impressed because I hadn’t seen him do those things. So, yes, I’m excited for him. I love the shots he was even taking. Like, I watched him cr man that and one he had when he got him free throw line extended and got a uh uh top and went left and got finished. I was like, it had been a minute since I’ve seen a pad bucket like that around the rim. Yeah. Four of this. I was very happy for him, man, because he need if anybody needs that kind of comeback story, you know what I mean? It’s It is definitely Patrick Williams as I like to call him. I think the $90 million he’s doing just fine. Yeah. What is Big Dave? What is the ideal not the Hollywood ending? So maybe like what’s like the Scooby-Doo ending for Lee Patrick Williams for you? Scooby-Doo ending, but like what is that? Is that like 15 and eight? Oh no. Okay. Lower. Bring it down. Lower. Bring it down. A little lower. Rotation guy on a playoff team. Top eight guy on a playoff. Okay, lower. Okay, let’s go lower. All right, we’re we’re doing the limbo. We’ll play limbo. It’s fine. I just want But do you hear Do you hear what I’m complimenting? I Yeah, I know. He put his butt into somebody else and he boxed somebody out. There you go. I need to see that consistently. That’s what I want to see more of. Somewhere is loving this conversation. Let’s keep lowering that bar, Joey. Let’s lower a little more. You know what I mean? Lower a little more. Cuz before I before I can raise that up, I’ve got to see him get over it. I gotta see him actually get over certain things, man. It’s like a a brand new baby gazelle. Like, I gotta see him, you know, learn to walk before we talk. You’re talking about running and getting in the forest and, you know, searching and foraging and no, no, no, no. I got to see him do some things first. And he’s doing them. Like the fact he had five rebounds, I was losing my mind. Losing my mind at five rebounds, bro. I was losing it. Pat Pat was worried about your your mental health with the losing your mind. So, he just just did the one rebound tonight to make you feel more comfortable. Good looking out. Things are back to normal. But even the five assist, like he was helping, you know what I’m saying, on defense. Yeah, I like those kind of things. Like it was like things were clicking for him, man. Like just watching him out. Three of eight from the field, which isn’t great, but two of five from the three-point line, stepping in the threes, you know, and and swishing them, bro. like he went to the line one time like he just feels the box scores, feels the stat sheet and I haven’t seen him do that. Yeah. And so when I see it and as the season goes, uh Joey C, trust me, I’m going to have some past for you. You going to be like what? Like like it it wasn’t great, but just seeing where he is now, man. He just feels and looks different. As Matt has said a million times, you want to feel him when he’s out there on the floor. And I have felt him every single preseason game, man. And that is a good thing. Yeah. I think it’s I mean, he talked about this. We’ve talked about this. Billy’s talked about this. Everybody knows the goal is consistency. And he’s put it together now for a couple straight games. It’s not always perfect. There’s going to be games where he has a handful more turnovers, but as we’ve talked about, like I’m willing to take on the turnovers, and that’s actually a thing that Mus also needs to work on from our conversation. Yeah. What? Four. Four turnovers, one assist. Um, but like I think there there’s a certain level of like Pat needs to be involved in the game and like sometimes that’s going to come with turnovers, but sometimes it’s going to come with him making the right play at the right time. Um, and I would rather have that than him kind of float around and not really be part of the game when he’s out there. So, um, yeah, he needs to be better, but I think like consistency is in some ways just being better. Like that’s how you get to a point where you can build on things. Like there there’s like the cliche that all the athletes use about like 1% better every day or like stacking games together. It’s like you can’t do that if you have like a 10 eight and five game or whatever it was last game and then today he just doesn’t play or he like misses a couple shots and he goes and sulks in the corner and doesn’t get back out there. Like he’s building on games like that’s really positive momentum for me. And again it’s I’m with you. It’s not like we’re saying he’s going to be the starting power forward and he’s going to be averaging 15 and 10 and blah blah blah. No, he’s just like got to be able to contribute in his role. And I think you can’t really like start to think more about what’s next until he’s doing that consistently. Yes. Lee, like I I like my man Paul say, he’s a brand new Lee. Brand new Lee Patrick out here, man. Lee Patrick is doing his thing. I’m very happy for him. Hopefully it we just want to see it be consistent. Uh people are talking about h him changing his name to something else. Uh maybe people will needs a name changed like will be freezes Abe or Paul Manabuzelli saying Patrick world peace. It’s Lee. His name is His name is Lee. Godamn it. His name is if he if he gets to 15 and eight, we might just have world peace. Oh my god. We might Are you kidding me? We might actually get after five NBA seasons of averaging not quite 10 or barely 10 and somewhere between three and four. That dude a look man it’s 2.5 threes at a 40% clip I think we will have world peace if the bull if Pat averages 15 and eight and the Bulls win a playoff uh play in tournament game. Yeah start the parade like here here’s here’s one Joey C. Do you know do you know about the bet that I made last year? No tell me I I I was with the company but maybe not with Patrick Williams during the season just to show you the season he was having. Oh I’m familiar. Yeah. Thank you. Good. I said that Dalon Terry will hit six threes before Patrick Williams scores 20 points in a single game. In a single game. Do you know how many times Patrick Williams after that scored 20 points in a game all season? I’ll be real with you. I don’t think I’ve ever seen Patrick Williams score 20 points. So, I want to say he did it once. That is correct. Okay. Game 79. You’re forgetting about the games after they’ve already sealed their ticket to the player. How long did How long did it take for Dale? They played two games, by the way. He didn’t. He had four. Okay. They had four. Oh, that was close. Oh, that’s damn close, dude. Oh, we were close. Oh, y’all didn’t want to see me if he had six. Dave was excited that day. But this is the point of the bar that that I’m saying here is that it’s it’s super low with him. And seeing him do these things. Even at 20 didn’t feel great cuz it felt, you know, like all right. It’s wild to me that he just can’t attack the offensive glass, hit a couple corner threes and just have some sort of version of a presence. As you said, maybe get to the free throw line a couple times. I’m not even asking him for him to be good defensively. He’s a big body. Just rotate appropriately, right? Like I think these are little small things that like at least the very least when they drafted him and they’re like, “Well, he’s Ky he’s got a little Kawhi Leonard in him, blah blah blah blah blah.” Like you’re telling me that he can’t just have that? There’s like 50 guys that do what I just described in this league that can be serviceable players that can help. I just wish. Well, I wish I mean the bar being that low and you know your original question of like, okay, what could Pat be? Could he be this? Could he be that? Rotation player on a playoff team. I don’t recall the architect of this team using the word playoffs to begin the season. We’re setting the bar low all around, Joey. I don’t care if it’s Patrick Williams stat sheet or this team success as a whole. We set it low. Can’t be disappointed if you got no expectations. Um I did I did want to at least give a shout out to Giddy before we got out of here tonight. I know we haven’t talked about him much. Um but like so you know he stuffed the stat sheet again tonight. 20 25 9 and six. Did have four four turnovers. So just a 1.5 assist to turnover ratio tonight. If I’m going to give Josh Giddy credit for something tonight specifically, okay, eight of eight at the free throw line. We saw him increase his free throw attempts as part of his offensive game really blossoming post all-star break last season. And I don’t know, maybe Josh Giddy was seeing that the whistles were out tonight and they were mostly out for Denver tonight. Oh yeah. But if you’re like, “Oh, a lot of whistles flying.” He just put the ball on the floor and just barreled his way into the paint a lot of times tonight and he turned it into eight free points. So I I will give him credit for that. Yeah, definitely deserves credit for that. I think that’s what really in addition to obviously the unsustainably hot shooting made him so efficient towards the end of last year. Um but I was encouraged by the three-point volume too. Like the Nuggets were playing a lot of zone early on and he just like there wasn’t really anything they could do to break it down. He just had to shoot over him. He made his first three threes. Um I think he made his first three, right? Like three in a row and then he finished three for seven. So, it wasn’t like he was hitting him, but I think like, you know, he needs to he needs to shoot those. He needs to be willing to do it. Um, I think that’s going to open up the driving lanes. It’s going to open up the fouls. Um, and it also, as we talked about with the multiple guards out there, it’s going to allow him to play away from the ball a little bit. So, um, I mean, if he keeps shooting three of seven, like, I think you can’t be anything but happy about that. Seriously, man. Yeah, he had a really, really good game, man. I like the way he scored and continued to attack. He he and if I’ve said a million times about him, he knows when he’s got a little guy on him and he’s got that little dude. He’s attacking immediately and he did it all game long uh to those guards who are trying to stop him, man. So, I like when he understands his matchups and attacks them. Well done by Josh Giddy. Uh just Yeah, very uh very effective just putting the ball on the floor and drawing fouls from Josh tonight. Uh nine boards. You you always know that Josh is is gonna do that work on the glass. I feel like most of those were just like who wants his rebound? my it’s not like Denver was crashing the offensive class that much tonight either. Um but an a good nice game to see from Giddy who also had a really strong game against Milwaukee. So he’s put two strong efforts back to back here after a slow start in those games against Cleveland. We’ll see what Giddy and the crew do uh on Thursday in the preseason finale against Ant and the Minnesota Timberwolves. Has Ant been playing like actual minutes for them in their preseason games? I haven’t. I think so. Yeah, let’s do it. All right. Um, that’ll do it for us. You do have 15 minutes to take advantage of that 90K unlock sale before the clock strikes midnight here in Chicago. Uh, take advantage of the sale. We want to do something nice for all of our uh, existing dieards and encourage more dieards to sign up because of all of you who have subscribed. And look at that. Not only did we hit that 90K mark, we’re 90.4 already. Yeah, man. 90,000. Rolling to 91. Rolling to 91,000. Give me that Rodman number and a maybe we I mean we shouldn’t just stop right there but if there’s a good place to stop I I love the number 91. I mean a millie is a good number. I see what you did. See what you did. A million is a great number. It’s a good number. I like that thousand is what what we focused on. Me and Gold focused on that. Uh see Red Fred I saw your poetry about Isaac and Coro in the chat but we don’t have time for that today. Maybe we’ll get to that uh tomorrow. Uh we’ll be back. Quick turn around tomorrow live pod 4:30 central time tomorrow afternoon to talk more about tonight’s game and what lies ahead. Also some interesting stuff in the national NBA media sphere talking about Bulls expectations for this upcoming season that have dropped over the last couple of days. We’re going to dive into some of those. Should be fun. In the meantime, read goat stuff.com. Follow him_gotly. Big Dave Bow Sports. I’m Bulls Peek. We are CO Bulls. Shout out to our king of the controls, the one and only Joey C. Hey, go home tonight and forget about it. Forget about it. Okay, no big deal. He’s Greek and he’s not a troll just yet, but he might turn into one if you don’t hit that like button. 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The CHGO Bulls crew break down the Chicago Bulls __ loss to the Denver Nuggets in their fourth preseason game on Tuesday night. The Bulls built themselves another big deficit early, and there was no semblance of a comeback tonight. Peck, Big Dave and Will Gottlieb discuss the Bulls’ defensive struggles against Nikola Jokic and Jamal Murray, and the possibility of the team’s new “defensive identity” not materializing this season. How much of the problem is about Nikola Vucevic? On the bright side, Matas Buzelis shined again, continuing to play his role in the team’s offense very confidently.

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2:45 Bulls drop Third Preseason game to Nuggets
6:59 Vucevic
19:43 Isaac Okoro
26:38 P-Will’s performance
35:40 Matas Shines Again
42:05 Matas’ layup package
58:15 Giddey

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