New Orleans Saints vs. New York Giants Review | PFF Grade Release Show
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Damn, you’re a coward. I am. You didn’t believe You didn’t believe that the Rat Pack was back. Was it ever here? But he’s back, Jack. Oh, okay. Nolan wins his game 26 to4. Top five great players that we had for the New Orleans Saints in this one. Defensive tackle Brian Baz. Look at him. Look at that elite score, folks. That’s what a first round pick looks like. 90.8. Quarterback Koulle McKinstry in 82.1. Quarterback Alante Taylor in 81.9. Wide receiver Rasheed Shahed with an 80.4. Running back Kendra Miller 714. Then Spencer Rattler 72.6. On the Giant side of things, offensive tackle Andrew Thomas had a hell of a game, 89.9 overall grade. Linebacker Daryus Musau with a 89.0. Safety Javon Holland with a 798. Defensive tackle Roy Robertson Harris 791. Center John Michael Schmidz Jr. 78.2. Jackson Dart in this one a 60.5. Seth told the story to very very simple Trevor. Even without watching the game, if I just told you two football teams played and one of them won the turnover battle five to nothing, you would be 99.9% sure of who won that football game. And that’s what the Saints did here. Especially when you talk about a Giants team that turned the football over five straight times in the middle of this game. It started, it was 1413. We had a good competitive game going. And honestly, credit Brandon Staley’s defense because outside of the Seattle game, they really haven’t been playing that bad of football. They’ve been okay this year. They just haven’t been able to finish games on either side of the ball. But five straight turnovers. Game was 1413 just before the half. Darius Slayton catches the slant, fumbles, that leads to that leads to a Saints field goal. Jackson Dart scrambling to his left. Just drops the football and Cam Jordan recovers it. That leads to another Saints field goal. And then the play that really broke the Giants back. It was 1914. They were driving in to take a lead inside roughly the 10yd line. Brian Brazie punches the ball away from Cam Scataboo. Jordan Howden picks it up and brings it back for a touchdown. And then you had an interception from Jackson Dart on each of the next two drives in a two-score game trying to force it. That’s what it comes down to. Look, Trev, sometimes football is simple. You turn the ball over five times, you’re going to lose. And and before the Giants turn the ball over five times, they had the lead in this game. They scored on the first two drives. It looked pretty darn good for a quarter and a half, but it just one mistake cascaded into four and five and even, you know, just it just did not it never got back on track. Yeah. And this Saints defense again, they are they the best defense in football? No. But they’ve been playing at least decent football, keeping them in games, right? The Cardinals game, I think about week one, they had a chance to win that game. The Bills game in Buffalo, right? Their defense did not play horribly in that game. it just got away from him at the end and it’s just tough to beat that team in Buffalo. Um, you know, this game they forced turnovers, they finished them off when they had a chance. Again, Brezie made the biggest play of the game, punching it away from Scataboo. Um, that that’s just what it comes down to. One team turned the ball over and the other didn’t. Yeah. And I’m I’m really glad that the Saints got a win here because I don’t know how many wins they’re going to get this season. And to be honest with you, the team still needs a lot of talent. So, you don’t want to win too many games, right? You want to make sure that you have a good draft pick in there. But they have been playing well enough to start the season where it it didn’t feel right that they were still sitting here without a win. And I’m glad that they were able to get one. Now that’s obviously like no shade to Giants fans. Giants fans got a big win last week that they got to celebrate with their new quarterback Jackson Dar. But it’s just, you know, if I’m looking at this, the Saints are a team that they’re not going to win many football games this year. At least I don’t think that they are. But it was good to see them get at least one especially at home uh where man playing in New Orleans used to and still in ways is like it’s a tough that’s a tough road game and so it was good to see them get a win there. The Giants offense without Malik Neighbors now at wide receivers specifically I’m worried about it. Now give credit to the Saints, their two defensive backs, Koolaid McKinstry 90.3 coverage grade. Alante Taylor 83.3 coverage grade. They were fantastic in this game. But a big reason why they were also fantastic. The other side of that coin is Giants 54.6 receiving grade as a team just from their wide receivers. When you look at the best production that they had in the passing game, it was Daniel Bellinger who had 52 receiving yards. It was Cam Scataboo who then had 54 receiving or 45 receiving yards, excuse me, on six catches. And then uh Theo Johnson as well who had the two touchdowns. He had six catches for 33 yards. But Darius Sllayton, three receptions, 31 yards. Juanale Robinson, five receptions just for 30 yards. Bo Collins, one reception for seven yards. Jaylen Hyatt had three targets in this one. No catches. So, I I just I I’m worried about this team at the wide receiver spot without Jackson Dart or without Malik Neighbor specifically because Jackson Dart to me is yes, he can hit the seam shots over the middle. Yes, he can go to the tight ends. We we’ve seen that before during his time when he was at Miss, but he loves hitting the big shots with the wide receivers on the outside. You know, he’s a sideline outside the numbers type of explosive passer. And that’s a Malik Neighbor stat. like that is a Malik Neighbors not only catches those himself but it opens things up for those other wide receivers that we have seen before even with the Giants struggling. So this game albeit one game gives me some reservations moving forward because I I figured it would be a tough enough adjustment for Jackson Dart in the passing game. Now the week before what we saw from them is how Jackson Dart was able to get involved as a runner right as this dual threat guy. Okay, you got to take into account everything that’s going on here. The RPO is a legitimate factor. Play actions now a legitimate factor. Him scrambling himself obviously a factor and a big reason why they were able to win that game last week. But specifically him not having the ability to take those deep shots, I think is going to make for a longer learning curve type of a year for him without Malik Neighbor. So to me amongst the, you know, Giants turnover, Saints get the win like that. That’s sort of the big takeaways with them losing and and the Giants uh the Giants losing, excuse me, and the Saints winning. The stats have told the story and what I’m actually going to monitor moving forward is that is how the Giants wide receivers are going to be able to move on without Malik Neighbors in the lineup. And I think that’s what you’re trying to do in this offense. Uh if you’re Brian Dable and you’re Joe Shane is especially without Neighbor. We know Neighbors is a keeper. We at this point I think we know Cam Scataboo is a keeper, but especially out there at wide receiver, who are the keepers? who are your long-term pieces, right? Is Jaylen Hyatt gonna step up and play well? Is Juell Robinson gonna be more than just a possession guy who catches every ball at six yards or less? Is Darius Sllayton going to be, you know, somebody that we can rely on? Because in this game, he dropped a deep post that would have been a big play and he had the fumble. He really had a couple of plays opportunities there where it could have gone a lot differently. Bo Collins is a guy getting playing time. Is he going to be a guy who’s useful for us down the line? I think that’s what they have to find. But for right now, and this is kind of what it looked like last week, this is going to look like the 2022 version of this team that made the playoffs, but they did it even that even that team with no receivers and they ran it a lot and they had tight ends on the field constantly. So, it’s going to look like that this last week. Are there are there going to be more keepers? You’re finding you’re trying you’re both of these teams, it’s the same story. There’s several others in the league. You’re trying to find foundational pieces. We know Neighbors is one despite the injury. That’s not a question. Does it suck to not have him? Absolutely. But you get him back next year. Figure out who or what you can complement him with. Whether that’s anybody on this team or anybody we got to draft or find in the offseason. My most impressive in this one was great to see Andrew Thomas back on the elite side of grades. Zero pressures allowed on 46 pass blocking snaps. Great to see that. And Andrew Thomas known I feel for more of what he does as a pass protector, how clean he is in pass protection. 29.2% 2% impact run blocking percentage. This dude was whooping ass this week. It was great to see the best version of Andrew Thomas after all the injuries and him being out of the lineup for uh as much as he has been over the last couple of years. So, he was my most impressive. My most disappointing is the Giants defensive line. Like, I understand you’re not going to you’re not going to feast every single week, but this is a Saints offensive line that has struggled a good amount so far four games into the season going into this fifth game. They had zero sacks and only 14 pressures total from a group that has Abdul Carter, Brian Burns, Kavon Tibido, Dexter Lawrence. That it’s I understand that sacks aren’t always going to be there every single week and that should not be the measuring stick that you always have for these players, but 14 total pressures, you you you should be more disruptive than that, especially against this Saints offensive line that has had its struggles throughout the season. Spencer Rattler time to throw 2.46 and when that when the pocket was clean basically making his own clean pockets 2.02 02. It’s the same idea here against the Giants, just like the Browns. Just get just get just get rid and the Saints, they only made one huge pass play in this game that the big touchdown to Rasheed Shahed. Otherwise, it was just nickel and dime and don’t put us in trouble and we’ll see if our defense can win us this game. But if you’re playing, it’s I think it’s the same thing as a Browns. If you’re playing this Giants team, get get rid of the football. There’s only a handful of teams that can secondary would probably be what I would say then as an answer to that of like, okay, I’m disappointed at how the defensive line played. Well, you’ve got to deploy your secondary to where they pay for that, right? A little bit more. And the Browns run a ton of man-to-man coverage and do it well, right? The Giants don’t do it quite as well. They got to figure out a way to be closer in coverage, play in press, or at least giving the illusion to not being able to get the ball out of of their hands as quickly as they are. Cuz Rattler threw, let me see this. He threw out of 31 passes, let’s say 29 targeted passes, he only threw seven of them at least 10 yards down the field. It is just this nickel and dime element that you can work your way around this defensive line if you do it right. And that’s all you’re asking for. Just don’t screw it up and don’t sit in the pocket too long and get strip sacked or anything like that. I I think Kell Moore had a good idea of what he wanted to do here. And it was just don’t we’re not we’re just again I say it all the time. If your line can’t protect you, maybe they could, maybe they couldn’t, but against this Giants team, probably not. If they can’t protect you, protect yourself. I I think that’s that’s actually a credit to me of Kell Moore and Spencer Rattler for just knowing, hey, those guys can hurt us more than anybody here. Uh most impressive, most disappointing. Most impressive got to be Brian Berie. I I mean, he made the biggest play of the game with the punch out on Scataboo. That was returned for a touchdown that really sealed this game, tilted it in New Orleans favor, but he hit a 90 grade in this game. He only one other time in his career had an 80. Uh so I I think you look at Brian Brazie, four positive grades in run defense. That’s been a struggle for him for a long time. Three pressures, a batted pass. He just did everything he did. He had the best game of his career at the right time. And and he made the biggest play of this game. And then I’m with you on the Giants wide receivers. Somebody’s got to step up. You just can’t have it. That group 45.4 receiving grade, 19 targets, nine catches, 68 yards. Somebody on the outside has to step up or the Giants are just going to keep getting more and more defenders in the box against
PFF’s Trevor Sikkema and Dalton Wasserman review the matchup between The New Orleans Saints and The New York Giants.
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The truth is Ruiz was the weakest link on the offensive line, he should not return to play unless an injury happens
Many NYG fans & media suffer from "Cowboy fan delusion syndrome" SUCKERS! The NYG stink, they're not talented enough. I like Skattbo, but he's limited, he's a fullback hybrid, and Dart is ok but is he a RB or a QB, W/ a 100+ yrds passing per game, idk! but he's no Jayden Daniel! The hype is nauseating, dont let the kid fart! Those past terrible drafts by Schlame & Dumball is on full display, even a broken clock can be right at times (Chargers). FIRE 🔥 Schoen & Daboll!!! People refused to leave the TITANIC as well too, Wake up! 🚢
How many wins do you think each of these teams will finish with?
Man we got integrated ads on videos that don’t even get 1000 views now wtf😂 this is absurd. Who gaf about your stupid better help sponsor
Andrew Thomas definitely allowed a pressure when he didn't even attempt to block Granderson, but they got bailed with the worst roughing the passer call we've ever seen😂
Take in there's actually people in this world who had the poverty Giants winning this game
Never seen y’all talk about the losing team the entire time. Talk about the good things the saints did
Dart drank too much Kool Aid 😂
The Saints should be 3 and 1 based on the the games and what could've been with WRs catching the 5 dropped td passes in the first 4 weeks.
The Saints will win a majority of thr games remaining. We already went through the tough part of the schedule besides the Steelers. I bet we win at least 7 games this year
Dropped a big post?? It got deflected! And you said you watched the game tsk tsk
I wish real ballers did analysis.
Saints are better than the bottom tier teams like jets dolphins panthers giants titans raiders browns. prob 24th or something like that. can compete on a good day with a lot of teams if the young talent performs. Jonas Sanker and Quincy Riley look good and starters from this draft class. So is Banks. they might've fund a gem in OL Simpkins who is udfa coming from fcs. he was mauling dudes. had pancakes on dexter Lawrence and thibodaux. he lost reps to them in pass protection but this was his first start and he looks like a future starter.
The most disappointing thing for me as a Giants fan is this secondary. It’s been so meh. Deonte Banks makes a legitimately awful play each week.
these clowns are so pathetic , .. they talked so much chit about the saints , now who looks like a woketard , lol so stupid bro get a real job ,
What was the pff score for the refs? That roughing the passer on Carl granderson was horrible
Saints played fine, give them flowers
75% of the way in and they are only talking about the loser Giants. Who cares about the Giants.
Screw that. We want to win every game we can. “Don’t want to get too bad of a draft pick” ??
It ain’t about where you pick, it’s who you pick. Bad take there dude.