Egor Demin’s STELLAR NBA debut IGNITES Brooklyn Nets fans | Will rookie SILENCE critics this season?
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He was sidelined by that plantar fascia tear for a lot of the offseason and the beginning of training camp and the Nets’s first three preseason games, but he plays in this game and I think that he exceeded expectations by all accounts. And one major concern about Jaguar’s profile entering the NBA draft was his ball handling, how he was going to be able to handle pressure. Was he going to be able to handle, you know, initiating offense against NBA level defenses? And this is only one game. It’s nothing to, you know, draw grand conclusions about. But in my opinion, he eased some concerns in that area with what he was able to do against the Toronto Raptors, which is one of the longest and most aggressive defenses in the NBA. That defense was ranked high in the NBA up until they started tanking at uh you know midway through in the very end of that season last year. So encouraging stuff from Jagor there. But getting to the stats, played 19 minutes in this one. Came off the bench, had 14 points, five rebounds, one assist, three of five from the field, two of three from three, and six of seven from the free throw line. But the major positive that I took away with this was just his ability to handle pressure. because we saw it early in this game. Ben Saraf and Nolan Troy both played early and the Raptors were really pressing up, pressuring, you know, threequarters of the court and really getting into these guys as ball handler and testing them. And that’s obviously a question for all of these guys as ball handlers. Are they are they going to be able to hold up against that? And that was Jagor’s, you know, one of his weaknesses in college was you hear a lot of college coaches talk about it. You hear scouts talk about it with Jagor. the book was kind of out on him midway through last season of college coaches and defensive coordinators saying, “Get up into this guy. Pressure this guy. Make this guy uncomfortable with his handle.” You know, he’s 6’9. The ball gets a little bit higher in the handle. Obviously, it’s not the tightest. He’s not the twitchiest or most explosive. And I think all of those things are still true and they remain concerns. But in this game against Scotty Barnes, against Abaji, against Grady Dick, against these other guys who were pressuring Jaor, he was able to initiate offense comfortably and that was, you know, a stark contrast to what we saw from Ben Saraf and Nolan Troy, and I’ll talk about them later, but that ability to do that, that was really nice to see because in summer league at BYU, and at summer league, it was something that he wasn’t necessarily able to do all the time. like we saw him playing off the ball a lot at summer league wasn’t initiating a ton of offense and part of that was him playing extended stretches alongside a Ben Saraf Nolan Troy but it was also his inability to hold guys off the handle being loose his lack of strength in his frame and I think all of those things remain concerns but at least for this game against this Raptors defense Jagor looked like the most comfortable and capable you know ball handler of this rookie trio by far so that was a resounding positive in my opinion also the three-point shooting like looked confident, knocked down two of three looks in 19 minutes. So, if you get up to like 30 minutes, obviously those attempts, you want him a little bit higher, but it was a positive to see the confidence level carry over from summer league to this NBA debut. We had one look where he was handling in the in the pick and roll, got a high ball screen, the defender went under the screen, he stopped, popped, knocked down a three. We saw him do that in summer league. We also saw him hit a catch and shoot three from the corner. We saw him get fouled on one three-point attempt. We saw him miss a pretty, you know, audacious catch and shoot attempt on the wing where he was tightly covered. But I think that all of that just speaks to the confidence. We saw Jagor, you know, he shot 27% from three at BYU, albeit on extremely high volume and he was dealing with a shoulder injury for much of the season. But that was a major concern entering the draft because with the shot creation limitations, with the ball handling limitations, with his, you know, some of the things that he wasn’t able to do in terms of getting downhill and being a guy who could drive offense and create his own shot if the three-point shooting also wasn’t there that further limits what you can do on the ball and it also greatly limits what you can do sliding to the wing and being an offball player. And that at summer league, you know, he shoots 43% on around 7.7 three-point attempts per game. And this is only one game here, but he looked just as confident and the stroke looked just as pure and he was two of three from three in this one. And that’s all we heard this off season about Jagger was him shooting at an extremely high level in all of his proday workouts, in his workouts with the Nets privately. Like that was a major red flag. A lot of people were concerned about that. And every person I talked to in and around the Nets organization, including Shawn Marks, including including Jordan Fernandez, including other front office people, whenever I’ve asked them about it, they’ve said, “This guy is a shooter.” Like, “This guy is a sharp shooter. He’s going to knock down shots, and we have zero doubt about that.” So, that confidence level that I’ve heard from everybody in and around the Nets organization, I think it speaks volumes. And I think that Jagger has backed up their assessments at summer league and now in this first preseason game, albeit on small volume. I think the confidence was pretty evident and despite all these positives, there are definitely still improvement areas. This is Jagor’s NBA debut. But while he was comfortable initiating offense and doing some of those things, the limitations as a ball handler, the limitations as a shot creator, some of those things are still evident. Like I said, that he looked comfortable, you know, handling the ball, handling pressure, and things along those lines. But that’s really where it stopped in terms of being an advantage creator. that really wasn’t there in this game as it wasn’t there at summer league when he’s taking a step up obviously in NBA level competition or defensive competition that he faced in in Las Vegas and now against Toronto. You know, the ball handling, you look at his shot profile, he attempted only two shots inside the arc in this game. One of those was off a back door cut. One of them was a drive to the rim where he kind of smoked the layup, but he only touched the paint, I’d say, twice off the dribble in this game from what I saw. And you know that speaks obviously to his inability to create advantages, his lack of shake, his inability to kind of comfortably handle and turn the corner on some of these pick and rolls because the biggest strength that Jaor had at BYU was his pick and roll playmaking and doing some of those things. And we saw at summer league that was kind of neutralized by the ball handling struggles that he had. And in this game, while he didn’t get ripped a ton, he had two turnovers. you know, he didn’t necessarily like he wasn’t embarrassed the way some of these other Nets rookie ball handlers was, you know, getting into the pick and roll and getting downhill, you know, whether by himself or via a ball screen. That really wasn’t a thing. As I said, only touched the paint twice off the dribble in this game. One of those he did have a really sweet pass. Like he drove to his right and threw like an overthe-head hook pass across three defenders, kind of read uh one of the low mans rotating too hard on the weak side and hit Michael Porter Jr. in the corner for an open three. It would have been a sweet highlight if MPJ hit it, but that was just like a glimpse at that playmaking brilliance that we’ve seen throughout his BYU tape. And you look at it, that playmaking ability, his inability to get downhill has really limited that playmaking ability. You look at, you know, three summer league performances this one preseason game. He only has five assists through those four appearances with the Nets. You know, three summer league, one preseason. And that is for a guy who was regarded as the best passer in this year’s draft. That’s not what you would expect. And I think some of that is obviously or a lot of it, almost all of it is a product of his inability to touch the paint and get downhill. When you look at a guy like Ben Saraf or Nolan Troy, Saraf has that shake. He has that craftiness. Troy obviously has that elite first step to turn the corner on screens or just blow by people. Jaor doesn’t necessarily have that right now. He doesn’t have the tightest handle or the shake and he doesn’t have that elite first step. While I feel like if he has a lane, he can get downhill and get to the rim. You saw it on the one layup that he smoked. Like he has that stride length, but the other things aren’t really there right now. And that’s going to need to improve. And a lot of that is going to be added strength. Like we talked to Steve Hzel at Summer League. I’ve talked to other people since then and they’ve said that adding strength to his frame and adding strength to his profile is going to be the biggest thing in terms of being able to hold off defenders at the point of attack and also being able to get downhill and create advantages using some of that size um you know at a greater level. So that is going to be those are going to be things to watch out for for Jagor. But there also were some pretty impressive positives in my opinion on the defensive end of the floor. So I’ll get into those and tell you why fans should be encouraged about what Jaor can be as a two-way player when I continue locked on Nets after a quick break. But before that, want to tell you about our friends over at Built. Guys, nobody likes paying rent, but if you must, you might as well get something for it. That’s where Built comes in. Built is changing the game by turning your rent payment into real rewards you can actually use. 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And a lot of what he did was impressive on the offensive end of the floor. We saw some highlights on that end. the shooting, a few nice passes, a nice back door cut for a layup. But I thought that the defense was a really positive takeaway that I saw from what Jagor put on tape in this game. And I feel like this has been a slept on part of Jaor’s game because when you take a ball handler in the draft who’s 6’9, 6’10 wingspan, obviously has that length, that is going to play a lot of time on the defensive end. I think the conversation surrounding Jaor entering the draft in terms of his defense, a lot of it was like he can be a wash defensively. We’re not sure about the potential that he has there, but I’m pretty encouraged and I have, you know, some hope or some, you know, feelings that Jaor can be a plus defender and will be a plus defender at the next level. Like you look at what we saw from Jaor in this game, he just has an understanding of defensive positioning and an understanding of how to use his length and his frame. And I think all of those things together when you, you know, pair that with the motor that he clearly has and the want to that he clearly has, it’s stuff that we saw at summer league. And I thought that it it played at this g in this game and I think it’s going to continue to play at the NBA level. Like you look at some of the plays that Jagor made defensively in this game. Were they any like crazy highlights? Were they anything that necessarily people would see unless somebody pointed them out? Maybe not. But I think that they were positives. Like you had one play in this game where I think it was Emanuel Quickley kind of drove left. He had a pick and roll with Yakoba Purle and he hit Purle on the roll and Jagor’s on the weak side and as Purle catches it on the roll. He digs down, gets a swipe, hits the ball, it goes off Purle’s knee and it goes out of bounds. And that’s just an example of the length that he has really constricting some of the lanes. And that’s why you, you know, the Nets were attracted to a player with Jagor’s profile. Like we talked to Shawn Marks after the draft and he said one of the things that he pointed to with all these picks that he made was 0.5 second basketball pass first unselfish ball not sticking but then defensively he said sizable multi-positional guys who can make things difficult on defense and that is a big part of the vision that the Nets are trying to implement and Jagor fits that very well with that 6-9 frame that 610 wingspan and his his understanding of defensive principles and defensive positioning that understanding of those defensive of rotations and principles is really important in this Jordi Fernandez scheme because the Nets are doing a lot less switching in this scheme. That was something that they did in the past, but now they’re doing a lot more blitzing on ball screens. They play a little bit of drop, but I saw I think it was in ESPN’s power rankings. It was Zack Creme or one of the ESPN guys had the stat. So, the Nets blitzed on 14% of their ball screens last year. And that involves obviously a lot of rotating on the backside and a lot of movement and all of these players being on a string and rotating together. I think that 14% blitzing that was the highest in the NBA last season. I think that was the highest since the Miami Heat in 202021. So that really gives you a sense of what Jordi Fernandez is trying to do. It’s a very involved defensive scheme with a lot of rotations. We’ve heard some of the Nets players, Cam Thomas and a few other guys talk about the challenges that can present and having length, having range, being able to cover ground, constrict passing lanes, constrict driving lanes, all of that is extremely important and most importantly the IQ and the knowledge of how to do some of those things and understanding it and the want to. Jaor Gman has all of those. In addition to that play I talked about, he had a he had two more plays backtoback involving Purle. one where it was another pick and roll between Emanuel Quickley and YaKob Purle and Quickly hit him hit Purle with a nice bounce pass and Jaggor rotates over this low man. He stays vertical. He has that huge standing reach and he keeps his arms up straight and he forces Purle into a miss at the rim. Same thing on the very next possession. Purle catches the ball on a roll. Jagor rotates over as the low man. Verticality forces a miss. That’s forcing a sevenfooter footer and Yaka Purletole is not like an explosive dunker or anything, but a good player and a good finisher forcing him into back-to-back misses. And I just think that those three plays were examples of Jagor’s understanding of defensive rotations and also his understanding and also his ability to use that length and his frame to make things tough for the other uh for the opposition offensively. So, I think that all of those things are encouraging and that’s why, you know, you go with a player like Jorman, you have some of those traits to fall back on. Like the word entering the draft was that the Nets liked uh Jeremiah Fears and I don’t think that that was off base. I think that the Nets did like Jeremiah Fears. Would they have taken him over Jorman if he got to the eighth pick? Who knows? You know, we won’t know because I don’t think the Nets will ever let that information out at this point. But these are some of the positives of Jaor Jan over a player like Jeremiah Fears. you know, these plays that he can make using his length, using his frame, what he can be, the upside and the potential defensively, you get that stuff. You have those traits to fall back on. Whereas, if you know, Jaor, it looks like he’s going to be a good three-point shooter. But if he’s just like an average three-point shooter and some of his offense is limited by that, you do have the potential for two-way impact and stuff on the other end of the floor, that does make you a little bit confidence in what his floor could potentially be as opposed to a guy like Jeremiah Fierce who in the playoffs we see some of these smaller guards, they just get hunted mercilessly on the other end. Like we’ve seen it from Trey Young. We’re seeing it now with Jaylen Brunson on the Knicks. those guys. NBA teams are going to take advantage of those mismatches whenever they can by putting those guys in actions on and off the bow. And I think with Jaor, even if he doesn’t end up being like a plus plus defender, I think he has a really good chance to be a good defender or at least a wash where he’s not going to be able to be hunted and it’s not going to be a clear mismatch on the floor at all times. and in this current modern NBA, I think that that is a resounding positive and something that should definitely not be overlooked by fans when you’re talking about Jaor’s profile overall. But we had some other takeaways involving the Net’s other rookies, also involving Michael Porter Jr., Zire Williams, the Nets rotation overall. So, get into all that when I close out Locked on Nets after a quick break. If you’re still overpaying for wireless, it’s time to say yes to saying no. At Mint Mobile, their favorite word is no. No contracts, no monthly bills, no overages, no hidden fees, no BS. 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Coming back from the break on today’s locked on Nets episode talking about Brooklyn’s preseason finale hit on Jaor Dilman and now going to offer some other takeaways that I had from this game. I think the first takeaway outside of Diego Gmen was the struggles of these other Nets rookies in uh rookie point guards in Ben Saraf and Nolan Troy and man it was ugly like you know fans who had concerns about a repeat of last season where the Nets held on to some of these veterans like then they had Cam Johnson, Dennis Shruder, Dorian Finny Smith, now you got Michael Porter Jr., Cam Thomas, um you know Terrence man, some of these other guys. They had concerns. Some fans have concerns about the Nets having another hot start, them winning some more games than they than they should. And that’s still possible, but I’d say it’s unlikely. And the biggest reason that I’ve been harping on is having these rookie ball handlers and their inability to handle ball pressure and handle some of the things that you need to as an NBA point guard. And in this game, Jorman did a good job of handling it. But Ben and Nolan, it was pretty disastrous. Like just turnovers all over the place. I think obviously Nolan was wor than worse than Ben. Like we saw Ben have some struggles initiating the offense, but a lot of his turnovers were in the half court, you know, trying to get downhill and make some plays. He played 22 minutes. Nolan was in for six minutes and just got ripped in the back court a couple of times and was really just having struggle like struggles even getting the ball across half court. And I think that speaks to what we’ve been saying about the dynamic between Ben and Nolan this preseason. Like Ben didn’t look good in this game by any stretch of the imagination, but he did have five assists. He played more than Nolan. I think he looked more confident than him as a ball handler, although it still was bad. And that has been the case throughout this preseason. You know, Nolan has just looked like he is very far away from being able to compete at an NBA level. And that is part of it is just, you know, the frame, the handle, the decision-m, all of those things, the ability to play with pace and some of that craft. But in this game, I would say it was just mostly the frame. like he just looked like he was getting overwhelmed by these Raptors defenders in the back court and at the point of attack. The handle didn’t look tight and then he just, you know, he didn’t look like he could handle it from a physicality perspective and that has been the case throughout the preseason, you know, against those in those two Suns matchups. But this game taking a step up in terms of the defensive pressure against the Raptors. It was really exposed there and it’s a reason why I think Jagor, you know, if he’s full strength, we’ll see if he starts on Wednesday, but he’s going to be the starter for this team pretty soon. And then Ben will be the backup. And I expect Nolan fully to spend time in the G- League. And I think that will be really good for him as he tries to get more comfortable doing some of these things, you know, handling pressure, adding strength to his frame, and also, you know, playing with some of the craft that he hasn’t necessarily shown thus far. All of that is going to be really important for him. So the turnovers, I expect Jagor, you know, he didn’t in this game. And I said that the way that he handled ball pressure was a positive. And I think that he looks better in that regard than Ben and Nolan. He’s still going to turn the ball over a lot. He’s going to have the ball in his hands so much as a rookie, he’s going to turn the ball over. Ben and Nolan, if Nolan gets called up, they’re going to turn the ball over. This Nets offense, there will be fun and encouraging moments, but there’s going to be a lot of turnovers, and that’s going to lend itself to a lot more losing than last season when you had a guy like Dennis Shruder handling the point early in the year or Denn or D’Angelo Russell late in the year. that transition from those guys to these Nets rookies, it’s already starting to show and it will continue to show throughout the campaign. It’s a big reason why I think the Nets are going to win a decent amount less than they did last season. But continuing on through some takeaways from this preseason finale, Michael Porter Jr. 34 points in this game offensively just looked locked in and a shot making, you know, put on a shot making clinic in this game and you saw some of the things that MPJ is going to be able to do. he just doesn’t need that much space to get some of these shots off. And I think that that’s going to be really important for these rookie point guards. You know, I just talked about their struggles. MPJ is going to be, you know, Cam Thomas will be also in a sense of him being a good shot creator, but MPJ is going to be the safety blanket for these Nets rookies because he’s a guy that is a huge target on the perimeter and can get his shot off quickly and efficiently. So, the spot of shooting is going to be an asset alongside these Nets rookies. And then also just cuts to the rim. I mean, I don’t think that MPJ is gonna have the ball in his hands in terms of handling the ball off the bounce as much as Cam Johnson did last season. I think Jordy will utilize him more off the ball, but on cuts to the rim, he’s a huge target. Like, he’s 610. He’s a big bulky guy. Like, that is going to be a big target and something that these Nest rookies can look to on the perimeter or on cuts to the basket, which is going to be big for them. But the MPJ offense, you know, I think there’s going to be nights like this throughout the year. There’s going to be nights where he goes off for 34 points like he did. He’s going to put on a shotmaking display. There’s going to be nights where it might look ugly as he tries to transition into greater offensive responsibilities as well. So, that’s what to look out for on offense. Defensively, as good as it looked on offense for MPJ, the defense just hasn’t been there throughout the preseason. The effort hasn’t been there. I talked about this on yesterday’s podcast. We’ll see. like he’s going to be in this rotation as a starter and a core featured piece regardless because the Nets just don’t have any other shotmakers of this level. But the defensive want to has not been there. That was a question in Denver. His want to as a defender, as a rebounder, that not being always consistent, and that hasn’t been there this preseason. Give him the benefit of the doubt. We’ll see as we move into the regular season. But it was a pretty stark contrast to his engagement on offense versus defense throughout this preseason. But we’ll see if that changes. And if it doesn’t, I’ll point it out and let you guys know. Next takeaway, Zire Williams looked really good in this game and has really looked really good throughout this preseason, particularly these last two preseason games. Zire was, I think, averaged around 18 points per game these last two preseason games. 13 of 22 from the field, eight of 14 from three, and just carrying over that shooting improvement that we saw last season. like it was nothing at an elite level in terms of the shot making, the three-point shooting from Zire last year, but it was a clear step up in terms of efficiency on careerhigh volume that we saw from Zire, and he’s carried that over to this preseason. I just looked really confident getting a shot off quick, getting a shot off efficiently. The stroke looks smooth. These makes that he has are just hitting nothing but nets. So, good to see from Zier Williams, a guy who is going to have a rotation role from day one as a backup on the wing. and we’ll see if he can build upon what he did uh last season and if he can continue to improve over these next two years and get another contract extension and be a long-term piece from for this Nets team which is looking like a real possibility. Last thing I just want to close out on is, you know, the Nets answering some rotation questions I think in this game and I touched on this briefly on yesterday’s pod, but you know, you look at the way that they held this rotation. You know, it was Jorman and Ben Roth at point guard. Nolan Troy obviously struggled, but there were three Nets rookies who I’ve said continuously I expect to spend time in the G-League early in the year based on things I’ve seen and heard from in and around the Nets organization. And those were Nolan Troy, Drake Pal, and Danny Wolf. Nolan played six minutes in this game. Drake played two minutes in this game. Danny Wolf did not play in this game. And I would expect all of those guys to be in the G-League early in the year. And then as the season progresses, there’s going to be injuries. We’ll see if some of these veterans get traded and they’re going to get called up. But early in the year, I think this was Jordan Fernandez trying to show this rotation a little bit and test it out for what it’s going to be as we see a lot of NBA teams do in this final preseason game. And he showed it. And those rookies, I think outside of Jayorman and Ben going to spend time in the G-League. Also, Tyrese Martin played 11 minutes in this game. Obviously, not a lot, but he did have a role and I expect him from day one probably to be the backup to Cam Thomas at that shooting guard spot. So, I think Tyrese Martin earned that roster spot. He had a, you know, rotation role throughout the preseason within that second unit and I expect that to continue to be the case into the regular season. If he can take advantage of that, he’s a guy who could get a contract extension that for him is his first significant standard contract extension. So that’s something to watch out for throughout the beginning of this season. But that’s all we have for today’s Locked On Nets episode. We got the Nets regular season opener. It’s finally here tomorrow. So we’ll have coverage of all that. But if you guys do not already, make sure to subscribe to the Lock on Nets on YouTube and wherever you get your podcast, whether Apple Podcast or Spotify. If you enjoy the content, take one second right now, smash that like button, leave a comment, leave a fivestar review. Anything you can do to engage is much appreciated. But I’m going to have more talk about what I hear in Nets practice tomorrow and into the Nets regular season opener when I’m back tomorrow talking more Brooklyn Nets basketball.
Erik Slater reacts to Brooklyn Nets rookie Egor Demin’s impressive NBA debut. He breaks down positives and improvement areas from Demin’s perfromance before outlining expectations for the point guard’s rookie campagin.
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What was your top takeaway from Egor Demin's NBA debut? What do you hope to see from him this season?
This is why players should play hurt.
Egor Demin was shooting .40 percent from the field until he got hurt at BYU before going to BYU he was a good three point shooter abroad
I thought he looked faster with the ball than in summer league
The blitzing has to stop
Improved shooting. Looked comfortable against ball pressure. Made good reads. Got to the FT line. And was engaged defensively….Overall pretty promising debut from Egor.
Egor!!!! Thanks for the content
The point guard who will be on the second team will probably have the best numbers