CARDINALS SQUAD SHOW: What Kind Of Shot Do The Arizona Cardinals Have IF Kyler Murray Plays Sunday?

CARDINALS SQUAD SHOW: What Kind Of Shot Do The Arizona Cardinals Have IF Kyler Murray Plays Sunday?

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We got a lot of things to get into on this Thursday edition of the Cardinal Squad Show. Today’s episode is brought to you by Crossover Thursday is presented by Price Picks. Download the Price Picks app today and use code locked on NFL to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup. Fellas, it’s a jam-packed show today. We got a lot of things to get into. The first thing is Kyler Murray for the second straight day has been limited in practice and I think it there’s a couple of different avenues we should go down. One, if Kyler’s Murray if Kyler Murray is healthy, should he play? And also like the caveat of how healthy does Kyler Murray need to be to where he needs to be out there on Sunday against the Green Bay Packers. Clancy, I’ll let you start us off. If he’s healthy, he’s playing. Like, let’s not twist anything. Like, everything is up for grabs going on for the rest of the season. Nobody’s job is safe. And that’s not to say that that Jacob Brass couldn’t give the Cardinals a better opportunity to win the game if Kyler Murray was 90% there, 85% there. I feel like if Kyler Murray was practicing with the ones, we would know that he was playing on Sunday. But if he’s healthy, he’s playing like, and I don’t know if that’s the right thing or the wrong thing. He’s the franchise quarterback until until otherwise stated. Yeah, I guess it depends on how healthy uh we’re talking. Obviously, everyone, you know, at at this point in the season is starting to get bumps and bruises and guys are playing hurt. Um, yes, like Clancy said, he is a starting quarterback for the Cardinals. Uh, so if he’s, you know, able to look good on Friday or tomorrow, then I guess he’s going to start and rightfully so. they they paid him to do his job and uh that’s what he’ll do. Do I think that it gives him the best chance to win? That’s another story that we can save for later. But yeah, if he’s healthy enough, we’re not saving that. We’re not saving that for later. Does Does So, let’s just say because we know he is he’s hurt. He’s not injured right now from what the practice report says. We know he’s hurt. He’s limited. If Kyler’s like is a 90% 85% Kyler Murray, he’s not. Is that you think he’s worse than that? Yeah, he’s he was with the practice squad today. Like it’s two games before game day. Like that’s the thing. If he’s healthy, he’s starting, but he’s not healthy, so he won’t be starting. The J Douglas conversation is going to be awesome for Wednesday of next week. If Jacobe Brassette puts up, oh, it won’t be next week, two weeks from now and next week because they have another buy. If they put up a bunch of points and keep it real with Green Bay with Jacobe Brassette, that’s when you have the conversation. Should he be? Because we got to see it twice, right? I mean, new car smell won. We got to see it twice before having that conversation. I guess I guess you got to see it twice if this guy’s never played in a big game before, but we we know Jacob’s track record, like obviously he hasn’t won enough to be someone’s starting quarterback. But I think in terms of allowing Kyler to get fully to whatever as close to 100% that he can, I would allow Jacobe to take this next game and uh see where it goes. See if we can uh be the underdogs and go shock the Packers. Like that’s my mindset at least. If this guy is practicing with the practice squad, he’s not ready to play because why would you have him with the practice squad, right? Hey, so J, if uh do you like we know what they’re saying in front of the media, Jonathan Ganon, he’s the starting quarterback, probably the thing he should say, coach talk. Do you think behind closed doors though, they’re like, let’s just let Kyler get healthy because we want to see what we have in Jacobe Brassette. I don’t know. It’s tough, man, because we don’t know the se we don’t know the severity of the injury. Uh that’s that’s the hardest thing, you know, like we heard it’s uh close to a Liz Frank type of deal. Um I think when you’re thinking in terms of the type of quarterback Kyler Murray is, we’re not going to see him this week. I just don’t believe that he’s going to play. I think that you play on it to, you know, get Green Bay to prepare for Kyler Murray in case he does miraculously feel good Friday, Saturday. But being a mobile quarterback and having an injury to your midfoot is uh it’s tough in terms of like it’s going to turn him into a pocket guy. And I don’t know that that’s necessarily where you want to be uh with Kyler Murray right now. Yeah. Unless they got I mean they got their bye next week. That’s the biggest thing here. If they didn’t have their by-week next week, we maybe see him him gutted through. Jacob Brassette showed enough last week to where he’s not completely inept and Keon Slow doesn’t have to start like this is just the happen stance of the NFL. It seems that you go with who’s healthy because he produced last week of the game and you see what happens. Clancy saying, you know, and using obviously inferences to see that Kyler Murray’s practicing with a practice squad that he’s probably not going to play. Jal, are you are you kind of set on the idea, too, that he’s not playing? Yeah. I I don’t think I don’t think we’re going to see Kyler Murray this weekend. Okay. Yeah. Okay. So, we’re all Okay, so we’re all in agree that it’s probably going to be Jacobe Brouset. There was some other news with Kyler Murray this week. I I thought this was definitely worth talking about a couple of years ago. Bryce Butler, who played on the Cardinals for like five seconds, went after Kyler Murray, his maturity, his leadership, and there was some like, ah, it’s Bryce Butler. How much did he really play? How much was he he wasn’t really with the team for very long? There have been some Patrick Peterson said nobody cares about Kyler Murray outside of Kyler Murray a couple years ago. But he, you know, kind of a scorned girlfriend there with the Patrick Peterson, the Cardinals dynamic now that’s kind of came together. Andrew Witworth, I don’t think it’s crazy to say a very respected offensive lineman, probably a potential Hall of Famer in Andrew Witworth, um, came out and had some choice words to say about Kyler. He had nothing to say about his skill. In fact, the quote was, “I’m not bagging on him as a football player. I’m bagging on him as a leader.” He cited the Immari D Marcato uh uh, you know, fumble before the end zone and he said, “Why is it Paris Johnson, you know, consoling Emari de Marcato?” Jal, this is kind of for you. What was your reaction to Andrew Wworth kind of coming out and going after Kyler Murray’s leadership a little bit? Yeah, I think uh you know when you hear something once or twice, it uh you kind of give someone the benefit of the doubt in terms of uh you know people saying Kyler Murray may be or may not be the best leader and typically it leans on may not be the best leader. Um, this has been years in the making that we’ve been hearing this about uh, Kyler and it’s from um, people that you wouldn’t normally uh, they they don’t really talk bad about other people and so it must be a glaring issue in terms of his leadership style. I will say this like um, you know, we don’t we don’t always get you don’t always have to be a rahrh guy in order to be considered a leader, right? like a lot of guys get their respect off of their play style, the way they go about their business. Um, you know, obviously winning is is something that you get your respect through, but it’s I I agree in terms of you would like to see Kyler Murray going over to an Amari D Marcato in that situation. But on the flip side of it, I’ll say this, running backs, a lot of running backs love their offensive lineman and vice versa. So that that is a normal uh interaction when your running back is going through something to be the first to go over there because you have that special bond. I just don’t think that we’ve heard enough good things about uh Kyler Murray’s leadership style. And so um I think that’s what this team is missing, man. I think uh you know as a quarterback you almost get thrusted into that position of being the guy when things are going wrong and we don’t get that from him. So, um, I agree with what he’s saying. I don’t think it’s a knock on the football player, but I don’t think that he has that leadership trait that we’re accustomed to seeing quarterbacks have. Um, yeah, I mean, Andrew W has played against Kyler and obviously not on the same field at the same time, but I mean, the Rams have a very intimate relationship with Kyler Murray over the last seven years. I think more than Seattle, more than San Francisco because the Cardinals have beat Seattle. They beat San Francisco. They haven’t beat the Rams. They just don’t beat the Rams outside of week two of last year. I think a couple years ago they got a dub also. But let me ask you this, and I know how irrational this sounds, and I guess this is for J first, but does it matter how good of a leader your quarterback is if you’re winning? Like, does it re like does leadership yield victories? The problem is everybody looks at Baker Mayfield now and it’s like, oh wait, he’s changed. He’s this new guy. He’s the same dude. He’s just winning. He’s the same dude. But I’ll say this, he’s always been a great leader. I’m not comparing that. He’s always been people through brick walls for that cap. 100%. And I’ll say that that’s why I said like guys get their their uh leadership across in different ways. With Baker Mayfield, I think people assume that he’s this leader, which he is based off of his play style and how uh you see him going at other people in a competitive nature. I don’t know that we see that enough from Kyler. And so it’s like, okay, if you’re not a vocal leader, is it your play style that people gravitate to? Because you can, you know, I know the Bills just had a tough one against Atlanta, but people gravitate to Josh Allen because of his daring play style and the juice that he brings to the Bills. There’s I guess what would you lean on in terms of Yeah. Tyler Murray’s leadership trait? Like what would you say that is? That’s the hard part for me. I what would you say it is? What would you lean on? It doesn’t feel like you’re you’re you’re kind of being able to hang your hat anywhere. And I’m not asking you to, you know, to go after Kyler, but like from what you’ve seen, what do you think what do you think it could be? Is I’m having trouble with it, too. Clancy, I don’t know. I don’t know. I mean, it’s not like I to say that K that people don’t like Kyler Murray, I think, is not correct. I just think that’s incorrect. Um, now Patrick Peterson being the petty guy that he is. For those that don’t know, petty Patrick Peterson started unlocked on Cardinals. Thank you very much. Um, I don’t care what Patrick Peterson has to say. He cheated and then he asked to be traded twice. So, I don’t really care what he has to say about the Arizona Cardinals at all. Um, with Chase Edmonds, that was another one, but Chase and Kyler were buddies. Chase didn’t have much bad things to say about Kyler. Like, I don’t think that there’s this huge conspiracy that Kyler Murray’s not liked by people. So, I have trouble dealing with that. He He’s not a bad dude. He seems like a very nice person. He’s always very polite. Yeah, he’s demonstrative on the sidelines in a different way than Tom Brady was yelling at people. Kyler just sits there and he pouts. And that’s something that he probably needs to work on in year seven, so it probably won’t happen. I don’t think that it matters nearly as much when you’re so in the middle rung of everything and your play isn’t going to be able to get you to where it needs to go. I don’t care how great of a leader Josh Dobs is. You ain’t winning any games with Josh Dobs. Like Kyler’s talent is his leadership. Yeah. And I’ll say this. I I think he gets a knock also because of his stature, you know, like because he’s a smaller quarterback. People I I just feel like we nitpick a lot of the things about his capability of being dominant. Uh because his his stature is small. I’ll say this, like, you know, I’ve heard that Joe Flacco is the absolute worst in terms of leadership. Like, he just comes in, does his job. Um, he doesn’t want to, you know, I know, uh, in the past I’ve heard that he’s not really there to mentor young guys and and all of those things, but, um, that’s just kind of who he is. and uh you know he’s played a a long time in the league. I don’t know that we can like force Kyler to be in a leadership role if he doesn’t want to. I see somebody says Buddha is Buddha is our leader. Like there are other leaders on this team, you know. Um it just so happens that like you know that situation with Amari de Marcado, the defense can’t come over and talk to a guy like they’re now on the field. So, um, there’s other people that that can step up. I just feel like, uh, you know, in the leader, James James Connor is the leader on the offense, but he’s out. So, um, it’s just an interesting situation with the Cardinals. Yeah. But shouldn’t you be able to lean on your quarterback when these type of hard times are happening and this team has lost four straight games? Like what does a team do when they don’t have their heartbeat in James Connor and they kind of don’t have a quarterback that they can lean on emotionally and say, “Hey man, we’re here to battle for you.” I mean, I think one of the biggest things last week is Jacobe Brassette continued to make play after play on the field. That felt like players would appreciate that. Maybe I’m I’m speaking for myself, J, so chime in here. But felt like multiple times he hung in the pocket. Kyler Well, let me finish my point. hung in the pocket multiple times, took hits. There was one where he was legitimately falling to the ground. He was parallel, dumped it off to a I think it was Elijah Higgins who dumped it off. Like it feels like those type of things as well, players will run through a brick wall for. But during these tough times that Kyler doesn’t even do that. So what does a team do when they don’t have a head of the snake? Well, you know, how much can you equate that to the Cardinals lack of success over the last couple of days or last couple of weeks? I mean, yeah, you Yeah, you could say they they lost their their heartbeat of their offense and James Connor early on. Um, you know, Marv is not a vocal guy. Like they don’t have like the when you think in terms of the Arizona Cardinals offense, there is not a vocal leader from at least that I’ve seen. Like I don’t know who that guy is. Trey McBride gets his his respect off the way he plays and you know that he’s going to go go run through a wall for the ball. Like that’s just what it does. I think Jacobe got his respect obviously from what he’s done in the league, but hanging in there taking tough hits and delivering uh shots down the field like that’s just what it is. I I really feel like this is like a if Kai I don’t know, man. I don’t It’s It’s hard for me to kind of pinpoint like should Kyler be a leader because I see other quarterbacks that aren’t necessarily a leader, but they their play speaks for itself. You know, if Kyler’s winning, we’re not talking about this. We’re not talking about his leadership abilities. And him being a leader isn’t going to change outcomes of games, I don’t think. Yeah. I mean, that’s I mean, if if Jody Brassette laid an A, you wouldn’t be saying, “Oh, they appreciate him more. They played better.” I mean, that’s the only difference. And Kyler Murray’s respect is gained from I can’t remember what game it was. I think it was the Carolina. No, it was a home game where he ran around in the backfield and wizardlike ran and scambered for 30 yards. That’s the respect that he has. That’s what he gets because he’s 5’10” and Jacob Kobe Brassette is a brick house. Like, you can’t compare the two statue-wise. And like Kyler Murray never had a chance because even before the draft on the Dan Patrick show, he didn’t talk. Like there the the thought of him going into the draft was like, “Oh, this kid doesn’t even want to play football.” So for people who still see him in a disrespectful manner or whatever it is or have any sort of reason to explain as to why the Cardinals are where they are because of him, that was a preconceived idea before the draft even started. you picked your side of Kyler Murray before the draft even started and everything is confirmation bias one way or the other. So, this is just another variation of that. This time it’s coming from a Super Bowl champ who embarrassed the Cardinals uh in their lone playoff game with Kyler Murray 2021. Let’s jump over to kind of a preview of a preview of the Green Bay Packers game in the in the next segment. What’s at stake and could the does this determine if the Arizona Cardinals should be buyers or sellers at the trade deadline? 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Limited time new customer offer for the first three months only. Speeds may slow above 35 gigabytes on a limited plan. Taxes and fees extra. See Mint Mobile for details. So, uh, Clancy came up with this in the, uh, uh, pre-show discussion. I thought it was really interesting because I think some people might have already checked out of this, but the Arizona Cardinals, they’re not even close to being mathematically eliminated from the playoffs. We’re a long way from Sunday. You can still see a world where if the Cardinals win this week, go into the buy, they play well in Dallas always, then you’re sitting at four and four through nine weeks of the season, including the buy. If the Cardinals win this game or lose this game, will it determine if the season is, you know, kind of effectively over, but even more than that, buyers or sellers at the deadline, Clancy? So, for those that don’t know, the trade deadline is the day after the Cardinals week nine, Monday night game against the Cowboys. So, if they lose this game, maybe if they lose in Dallas, that’s the one where it’s going to be like, okay, if they if they’re two and six, are they trading away players? Now, I don’t know what that looks like because they don’t have many players to trade away that they would actually trade away. I don’t think you’re trading Buddha Baker. I don’t think you’re you’re obviously not trading trading Brian Perry Johnson Jr., Garrett Williams, all the young guys, Josh Schwe, Dwin Tom, you’re not trading those guys. So, the other side is if they lose this week, are they spending draft capital on some dudes? Like, do you really think there’s a world where you go after Breeze Hall and you trade for a wide a wide receiver? Like, hold on, hold on. But, but but instead of just shutting it down because that’s what we’re supposed to say when trading for a running back, look at this. It’s not just for this year. It’s for the future also. So obviously you’d have to extend Brie Hall. Most likely that’s not going to happen. He’s probably going to go to Kansas City. But if you’re not buyers, then you’re going to be two and seven, two and eight, two and nine. Like when does it stop if you know things don’t get better? So that’s why I wanted to like at least entertain it. But is there a chance that the Cardinals are actually sellers if they lose this game? I think they’ve got at least one player that immediately sticks out to me. They kind of have a surplus here. Jaylen Thompson, like I think that’s a guy that a lot of other teams could use and you could get I think he’s in his last year of his deal. A fourth round pick for him. A fifth round pick for him. What was that? Yeah, that’s about right. Right. I think Jaylen Thompson would be kind of interesting. Kas Campbell, I think they could I I mean that would be a terrible thing to do. That would be a terrible thing. Like he kind of kind of does fit the mold. It doesn’t make any sense. What are you gonna get like who’s going to give up something for not to say that he’s like No, he’s come He wouldn’t have come and signed here if he didn’t like this isn’t a Terrell Suggs thing where they cut him midway through the season after giving him 7 mil and he goes to Kansas City and that’s not this. Yeah. I I don’t know, man. I don’t know. There’s no one that I think the Cardinals would move off of that is like enticing enough. Like you’re not getting rid of a Trey McBride. You’re not getting rid of who What about Z Jones? There’s no market. I don’t know. Yeah, I don’t know that there was a demand for Z Jones. like like like I don’t know a team that needs a receiver that bad to to say start giving you guys Yeah, please do. I don’t know that. What about What about What about Mac Wilson who’s been really good for this? They’re not moving Mac. No, he’s a He’s not tradable. Like he’s not good enough to for the team to trade for him. He’s good in this system. Yeah, I don’t think you’re not trading for an offball linebacker at the trade deadline. You’re trading for wide receivers. You’re trading for edge rushers, sometimes offensive linemen. you’re training for players. Yeah. I mean, I agree. I agree with you guys, but I’m thinking like I’m legitimately thinking sixth, fifth round. But if you’re saying like more that area, I think you’re looking at I think No, maybe a Dante Stills. I think Jaylen Thompson fits in that realm. Um, one of your guards if you’re out of it, like I could see them moving. So, here’s the thing. We got to look at it the other way. Which players on the Arizona Cardinals team would teams trade for? It’s not whoard. Yeah, that’s what I’m saying. It’s who’s got the TR like that’s we’re getting way too deep into this. Like should the Cardinals move off assets if other teams call if they lose this week? And what that’s what I’m saying. Who what player is going to make another team immediately better that they’re going to trade uh for that the Cardinals have right now? like they don’t have a ton of guys that like this isn’t the Philadelphia Eagles where you can just offload guys and you know get get something in return for them. I don’t know. Uh in terms of like the actual question like if the Cardinals go ahead and they lose this game, does it make them buyers or sellers? It’s hard for me to decide if it makes them um I don’t think it makes them sellers because I don’t think that they’re in that position. uh B buyers. It’s a weird deal. I know Clancy said we’re we’re supposed to not what we’re supposed to say is they just chalk it up for the season. Um and that that’s the easy thing to say. I don’t and we talked about this earlier uh in the before the season started. What makes the Cardinals immediately better? Um is it a is it a running back? because I still think you’re you’re putting questions in terms of like uh another guard. I mean, you’re not going to trade for guard at the trade deadline. I mean, it’s like here’s the thing when it comes down to it. There’s only one player who’s tradable on this team and it’s Kyler Murray. I just don’t think that that’s something they would do. I mean, like the only thing is, and I just looked because I’m not a wizard. The dead cap hit is only seven million is only $4 million more next year than what his cap hit would be. So, if you want to really blow it up, that’s the only thing that would happen. That’s not going to happen. There’s no world where anybody would trade for Kyler Murray mid-season, plus pay him his freight, plus he’s only got two years left on his deal. Like, it doesn’t make any sense. But that would be the only like real like you you really want to be sellers, ride with Jacob Brouset and trade Kyler Murray. I just don’t think it’s going to happen. I obviously I get what you guys are saying. Um the Kyler Murray thing is interesting. I just don’t think it would happen. I do think if this team loses this week, Jaylen Thompson will get traded. I do think he can help someone, especially in the back end, like the like they wouldn’t trade in division, but like the Rams could use a guy. The Eagles could definitely use a backend guy, someone that they can help in coverage a little bit. Um, but that would be it. But here’s the question roster. Like, they’ve been playing three safety sets because they don’t have enough corners. That’s what I’m saying. Yeah. But at that point, Yeah. Yeah. But at that point, if you’re if you’re two and six, writings on the wall, does like I’m You have to put out the best product every week. It doesn’t matter. Are there teams that are own like you think the Jets are not playing their they’re going to trade their be their guys they absolutely need because they don’t have a deep enough roster uh deep enough guys on that with that roster with that position sorry like these people every single person in the NFL is you know takes pride in what they do every week. So it’s like if you trade somebody well the Cardinals don’t need to win it’s like well you still need to feel a roster. So I I mean the defense has been by and large good this year. Um, but I don’t know. I just don’t Jaylen Thompson doesn’t have the pop. I don’t think Yeah. Let’s Let’s reverse that then. What if the Cardinals win? Do they start making deals? They feel like I mean, you feel really good about the about Dallas. You match up really well with them. Feels like every time you play them, you beat them. Let’s say let’s just say that that’s a win. That’s going to be a tough game. It’s a really good offense, but let’s say it’s a win. Then you’re four and four. You feel good about yourself, but let’s say that they win this game. You think they’re You guys think that they’re buyers? So Jal, before you answer that, you’ve been on a handful of teams and you went through a handful of you went through seven trade deadlines. Was there ever a time that a team that you were on traded for somebody that got that to that next step, which is what the intent was to make the trade? I don’t know if there were many. No. No. Was there ever a splash made at the trade deadline or around it on a team you play you can remember? Not to put you on the spot. No, I’ve never been in a situation where What’s That’s crazy. Like, I’ve never thought of it like that. Um, I’ve never been in a situation where we made a splash trade. Uh, that I can think of, man. Um, Emanuel Sanders, I believe. Emanuel Sand, I don’t know if he got traded or the receiver from What was that? It was when I was with Buffalo. I I don’t know that he got traded or they picked him up and pre I can’t remember. But um No, there’s never been like a No, I’ve never experienced that. I don’t think if they win this game, I think the Cardinals go business as usual. It it like, hey, we’re just going to ride into our by-week, get as healthy as we can, and reup for our second half of the season. Like I don’t think that they’re looking at it in terms of like all right we win this game we got to go get someone to help us like no I don’t I just don’t think that it’s that deep. So isn’t that a problem then? Like let me push the envelope a little bit. If they if they win this game like that kind of is like a oh wow all right maybe they’re not as bad as we think they are. They get in the by-week they get healthy. We see where they at with Dallas. Shouldn’t they feel some pressure to do something like why? Why though? Well, even if this team wasn’t going to make the playoffs, like I I’m not sure Clancy had them in the playoffs, but I know he had them at like either 10 or nine wins, like a very comp like a very competent team, like we can buy that, right? They win 10 games, they win nine games, they just missed the playoffs, something weird happens, we could buy that. If they are downright incompetent again and they win five, six games, like then we really are talking about Monty, JG, the OC. Whether we like it or not, I think we’re talking about it. Shouldn’t they feel some pressure to I mean make a run at the playoffs and and what I and I think the easy position right away is running back. Like even when Trey Benson was in there, like I didn’t see anything that was like that’s RB1 for the next five years. So I would think that they’d feel some pressure to do so. Even if I don’t agree with it, I don’t think so, Ben. I I think uh All right. Well, yeah. What? you want to bring Bree Hall into the mix like the it depends what it costs but so if they beat Green Bay there’s probably unless somebody comes to them or unless Monty Osport answers the phone and like hey you want to give up a third for something or whatever for a fill or something but put it this way if they beat Green Bay they’re three and four and their four losses are by a combined nine points so how with all of the injuries that they have with all of the injuries all of the people that are on the shelf the majority majority of whom will be able to come back this year outside of James Carter. Like that’s even more of a fact. And I didn’t know that I was going to think this until right now. Like that’s you’re either the best two and five team or the worst three and four team in the league. If the Cardinals win, like we don’t know if the Cardinals are the best worst team, the best bad team, or the worst good team in the league. We don’t know. Um so yeah, I mean if they win, four losses combined, nine points going into the bye-week, Kyler Murray’s coming back. Let’s rip. Like I I don’t I don’t see as as Jal Stoutly said like I don’t see one player irrespective of who it is elevating this team to a level they need to be to push. Either they will or they won’t. Right. Yeah. That’s how I see it. I don’t I don’t see that they’re in a space where it’s like, “All right, let’s go get this guy. This is going to get us over the hump.” Um if the Cardinals were a team that leaned on their run game, uh game in game out, I could say, “Yeah, all right. go try to get a Bree Hall or someone like that, but the Cardinals are not that. They don’t lean on their run game. They’re they’re they’re pass Well, yeah, but even then, like Trey McBride’s touching the ball more than the majority of other guys are, you know? So, um I don’t see this as a team that is going to be uh shopping for someone to make them better if they win this game, right? That’s that’s interesting. All right, let’s start previewing that Packers game. God, Micah Parsons versus the Cardinals offensive line. The Cardinals potentially last stand potentially this weekend. How are there the Packers, you know, down still? Jaden Reed, we’ll talk about all that. The Jordan Love, Jacobe Brassette difference at quarterback and we’ll do it all next. Today’s show is brought to you by our friends over at Built. Nobody likes paying rent, but if you must, you might as well get something for it. That’s where Built comes in. Built is changing the game by turning your rent payments into real rewards you can actually use. When you pay rent through Built, you earn flexible points that can be redeemed toward hundreds of hotels and airlines, a future rent payment, your next lift ride, and more. But Built isn’t just about rent. It’s about rewarding your you around your entire neighborhood. 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They go in, they dominate a team of the Commanders, then they kind of, you know, tie they tie with the Cowboys or they lose a game to the Browns that maybe they should have won. Where do you guys want to start? I guess we’ll just say right here, like what’s the first thing you’re looking at? The Cardinals will win this game if Clancy I mean if Jacobe Brassette can have time to throw the ball down the field like if he throws for over 300 yards and a couple of touchdowns I think the Cardinals could win this game. Like they’ve got to be able to score and like the Packers have given up points. Like they’ve this isn’t a team that was like oh this is going to be the best team in that we’ve this is the 2001 Ravens like after week one against Detroit. Like they’ve lost pretty ugly a couple times or they lost ugly and then they tied ugly. Um, it’s just got to be a competent offense. I mean, that’s that’s really what it is. It’s got to be competent. I mean, there’s some things that they need to focus on on defense, but by and large, if they can put up 25 points, they’re going to be in contention this game. Yeah. I I think um, sorry, I was just writing a couple things down. I think this is a game that uh, the Cardinals can actually win. Uh, in terms of we watch the Packers play the Cowboys. The Cowboys have a bottom five defense in the NFL. Um, you know, I know the Cowboys can score in a flurry. They can put up 40, but they also have a terrible defense, uh, right now. So, the Cardinals don’t have that. The Cardinals have a defense that can travel, that can play, um, that can create turnovers, that can, uh, defend the run. And like I said last week, the Packers are not the team that has the foot on your neck mentality. We’ve seen, you know, them have games where we think they should win decisively and they don’t win. I think the key for uh the Cardinals is extending drives like you know not not having a ton obviously you got to take care of the football but not having a ton of drives where it’s three and out or you know you have turnovers and things like that because then the game won’t be close but if you can keep the Packers off the field uh and minimize the amount of opportunities they have to air it out I really think And this is speaking with Jacobe Brassette in the lineup. I really think that uh the Cardinals have a chance to win this game and it will be huge for them to to uh if they play like they did versus the Colts, this will be a huge game for them to come out on top. Um I think immediately I’m looking at the offensive line and uh I want to ask Javil about Micah Parsons, but I think the biggest thing is like they’ve got Rashawn Garry and Micah Parsons at either end. Paris Johnson Jr. I think is one of the best left tackles in the league. Quietly having a really really nice season. He goes up against Mah Parsons. He goes up against Rashan Gary. I’m going to feel fairly good about that for Jacobe Brassette. But um Jonah Williams has been spotty to say the least. He’s going to get matched up with Micah. I mean I’m sure there’s going to be some at times where they’re going to chip. They’re going to throw Michael Carter at him which will be kind of funny. But how do you I don’t know if you’ve ever played against uh Micah Parsons, Jal, but I have. How do you stop that guy? I haven’t played against Micah Parsons, but um I played against some pretty good rushers on the interior and it’s it’s a combination of things. Like obviously you’re a pro, right, at when you have to be able to win your one-on-one when it gets called. Within that though, you hope that this game isn’t a game where the Cardinals get down and the Packers can just pin their pin their ears back and rush the passer cuz now everything is off the table. There is no um you know bluffing or anything like that. Like there there’s there’s nothing you can do in terms of like protecting your tackle or helping your tackle out. So, I think from a offensive coordinator standpoint, you’d be silly not to give this guy multiple different looks and uh, you know, send a tight end sifting across the formation the first couple plays just to get him thinking about his knees early on and um have the chips and different things like that. You have to do that as a offensive coordinator. You can’t just say unless you have a Trent Williams or you know a Pine Su or someone like that, you can’t just say it’s our guy versus your guy uh in terms of what your pass protection has looked like. So hopefully um there is some of that because I do think that’ll be helpful for the Cardinals. Yeah, I mean it’s just a matter of scheming against it. I mean it’s easy for me to say. I mean we saw a lot of we saw a lot of throws that get they got thrown up super early last week. There was one to Marv before he went out. You know, there was a couple wide receiver screens, little bubble screens. Um, I mean, you can use Greg Dorch in the slot, just, you know, two-step drop and just put it on him. Five yard slant, things like that. Trey McBride, Elijah Higgins, like they’ve got, I mean, we’ve seen it all year. There’s plenty of movement around the line of scrimmage and a couple yards ahead of it. Like, I think Drew Pensing will have a plan regardless of what people think about Drew Pens, what I’ve thought about Drew Pensing. if he puts together the game plan that we saw last week and it works again like it did last week, we’re gonna be having Kyler Murray conversations and not Drew Pettson conversations. Okay. So, if I I trust that they’ll be able to figure it out in some capacity. Um, in the run game, that’s going to be a little bit more difficult. I know Micah can do both. Um, but I really think this is going to be 45 passes. As J said, you don’t want to go down 14 nothing early with like an interception score or whatever, a score and then an interception and a score, things like that because the Cardinals do not have the ability to keep pace with a Packers team. Even though like with the Packers jumping onto the other side with the Cardinal playing defense, which is going to be important also, they’ve got a bunch of B minus wide receivers. Romeo Dah is probably a B, but like Dantavian Wixs is Bminus. Matthew Golden’s a rookie. He showed flashes. the the thing that the player that terrifies me aside from Josh Jacobs who’s probably now have 25 plus carries over 120 yards and a couple of touchdowns like that’s where they’re going to get beat. Tucker Craft is somebody that’s like he’s one of the most understated entities in football because he was hurt and then Luke Musgrave got drafted around the same time but Tucker Craft is where the the bread is buttered especially around the goal line. Um so those two guys I mean but Josh Jacobs like could eclipse what we saw last week from Jonathan Taylor. Yeah, I I I also like I don’t want to leave all those things are I don’t want to leave the defensive side of the ball really quick because I want to mention this as well because I I’m making it out to be the defense is like an elite defense. The Beckers defense is in yards given up a game. They’re bottom third in the NFL just from my quick eye test looking at it. I think this is also a game for Marvin Harrison Jr. to kind of get going because as Clancy mentioned as well like the weapons battle I I understand Tuck Krab is awesome. He’s no Trey McBride. And then on the w on the wide receiver front, the Cardinals got better wide receivers or the same as the Green Bay Packers. And then running backs. Yeah. So, like the weapons thing, like it’s about equal. They’ve got a little bit of the better quarterback. Like, let’s finally see what Marvin Harrison Jr. looks like with a guy that’s seems like maybe he’ll throw the ball over the middle a little bit and get out in some one-on-one coverages again. Maybe some crosser routes, put them in motion, like something to look a little bit more creative like we saw last week. Take advantage of this Green Bay Packers team that doesn’t have Jier Alexander anymore that has uh kid from the uh Giants years ago whose name I can’t remember, led the league in interceptions last year. They’ve got that and that’s it. So like offensive side of it, like I don’t think it’s a steep drop off from Kyler to Jacobe. And I think Jacobe can do what he did last week and if they do that, like the Cardinals do have a chance to win this game. Yeah. No, they definitely have a chance. I I I think uh Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you know, the Packers fans travel, so we’ll see what that looks like from from in terms of uh you know, what it looks like in the crowd, but I just I feel like this isn’t one of those uh you know, the the the Cardinals are playing with house money in this game. It’s like, all right, we’re we’re feeling obviously we lost last week to a really good Colts team. I think the Colts are legit, but like we moved the ball. We put points on the board. Um, you know, in terms of our defense, our defense played well. It just we didn’t get the stops that we needed uh to end the game. The Cardinals can come out and win this game. Like, this is not one of those games where it’s like uh this will be a blowout. Like, I I don’t think that. I just think if it goes one way, it’ll be bad for the Cardinals. If if you turn over the ball and you have a ton of three and outs and you give the Packers a ton of uh opportunities, it’s going to be a 14-point uh deficit early on. And that’s what they can do. They got to they got to come out and they got to be efficient on offense. Um and then one thing before you know it turns into Lambo Field West on Sunday, like realize that people fly out to games in Arizona because it’s so much nicer here than it is where they live weatherwise. So you can enjoy that when the Cardinals are suffering because they have no home field advantage. Understand that you’re living in the right spot for the next seven months or 6 months. Okay. So they’re probably it’s probably cheaper tickets too, honestly. Take that home with you. Take that home with you. I mean well plane flights and all that stuff. I mean you can get into Lambo. Yeah. Also also Green Bay Green Bay it’s probably a higher ticket now this this week because it’s a prestigious team potentially. I mean yeah I Yeah. I mean listen just take it because you get you get to see the Sun more than they do so they come out and see it. Uh, with that said, like first of all, uh, Jordan Love is exponentially a better quarterback than Jacobe Brassette. So, it’s not just a little bit better. Jordan Love is a fringe top five quarterback in this league when he’s got everything for sure, dude. Like, he’s not like he was a He’s a really good player. Yeah. I mean, he’s just if the offensive line gives him time. I was talking with Peter Bukowski locked on Packers. We did a crossover yesterday. Yeah. Like EPA quarterback EPA without being pressured, he is the best quarterback in the NFL. he’s the number one quarterback in the NFL. When he’s being blitzed, he’s the number one quarterback in the NFL. But when he’s being pressured, which is different, um he’s I think 27th or something like that. So like Jordan Love is numbers wise very very good this year. And they’ve got a lot of B-level quarter wide receivers, a great quarterback elevates them to B plus, A minus. So the Cardinals secondary is going to have their work cut out for them. I think this is going to be a really tough test for Drew Petting to control the clock while having to throw the ball a lot because you’re not able to run the ball and control the clock like Green Bay most definitely will with with Josh Jacobs. I Yeah, with with all that being said with Jordan Love, yes, I think he’s definitely a top 10 guy. I think he’s probably in there in the top eight. Um, but he does throw the occasional boneheaded interception and the Cardinals have the defensive back bandwidth. I mean, last week I felt like, you know, it could have caught a couple more interceptions, but they could make him pay for making one bad decision and that and that’s what could flip this game. If Jacobe Brassette takes care of the ball, scores, you know, 20 points, and the Cardinals have three turnovers, you know, two turnovers probably more like it, a fumble, maybe an interception, something that swings the game, like the Cardinals can win this game. Why’ you look at me like that? Those aliens in the seats, baby, that’s another one. Stop it. If they if they turn Jordan Love over six times, I can almost guarantee they’re going to score 20 points. You know what’s crazy? You know what’s crazy? If they did turn over the ball three times, it would not surprise you if the Packers still won because their offensive firepower is just that much better from the quarterback position than the Cardinals have right now. And their offensive line’s just way better, too. But their offensive lines are always good. I mean, he he he’ll give you a couple picks, you know? I I don’t know about a couple, but he will throw a boneheaded interception for sure. He does that for sure. Lost in the 49er game in the playoffs years ago. He threw a bad boneheaded interception. For sure. That talk about he was like in high school too. That was his first year starting. Yeah. Okay. That was his third year in the league. I think third year, right? Third year in the league. That would have been his third year, I’m pretty sure. Mark on Packers. I don’t know. Yeah. Well, next time we’ll ask Peter Vicowski to join us and we’ll do that. But any with that being said, let’s move over to the prediction side of it. Uh something tells me Jal’s gonna give us a score and not tell us a name. Clancy’s gonna tell us the Cardinals are going to win again. And uh I’ll probably be wrong on something, but let’s do it and let’s talk about it next. First, today’s show is brought to you by Mazda. Mazda crafts cars for those who choose who for those who do more than simply move. Mazda delivers confidence with every wide with every ride with more IA IHS Top Safety Pick Plus awards than anyone else. 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It’s six and a half for those curious over. I didn’t even I didn’t even know that. We know how we we know what we know what you were doing during the time when you were playing. Listen, I I I did no none of that. Um why do you put the bleed on? He tried. He tried. He tried. But yeah, I’m going to say, see, I didn’t even know what the spread. What is the spread? Six and a half. Oh wow. That’s actually pretty good for the Cardinals. Well, you have to remember they’re they’re at home. Yeah, they’re at home. Three more points for a home game. So, it’s really nice. Let me let me see if it’s changed. Let me see if it’s changed from the lovely folks over at FanDuel. Regardless what the spread is, I think uh I think the Cardinals will play well. I think we’ll see um a good showing from Jacobe, but I I do think that the Packers, they aired out a bunch. Uh they’re gonna their run game if the Cardinals can stop the run game. This my prediction could be wrong, but I think they’re gonna uh Josh Jacobs is going to have probably two touchdowns or so and they they’ll uh do what they need to do. So 2717. Yeah, a lot of this rides on if if Marvin Harrison Jr. is going to play this week. We have absolutely zero idea if he’s going to play this week. There’s no indicator one way or the other. So um having said that, they did huck it down the second half without him. Uh Michael Wilson played well. you know, Greg Dorsch got involved. Um, I think it’s going to be a carbon copy of last week. Like, I think it’s going to be tight. It’s going to be a one-sore game here and there, but inevitably I think the Packers win. Like, it was if it’s the exact same flow of last week, I wouldn’t be surprised. Um, with Jonathan Taylor, you know, I think Josh Jacobs will be, as we said, and as we said on this show going into the week last week, it was pass first half, run second half, and that’s exactly what it was. I think it’s going to be a little bit more of a mixup throughout the game, but it’s going to be about the same game script. What what what’s the overunder? Do you know I’ll right now going to hit here. I think it’ll be close to 44 and a half. Yeah, I think they’re going to the over is going to smash. I think the Cardinals will score some points. I think Green Bay will score more points. Betting the under is always bad for your health anyways. Bet the over all the time regardless of what it looks like. Okay, that’s not We don’t We don’t condone uh we’re not sharp bers here, so maybe don’t listen to what Ben says. He’s Yeah, he’s probably right. Okay. So, I a lot of the things a lot of the things you guys mentioned are really really uh insightful. It’s smart. I would agree with a lot of it, but you guys told on yourselves a little bit. You guys both showed me you guys have not been watching this team for 20 years like I have. Now, you guys have all the statistics right. You guys are making a lot of sense, but this is just one of those stupid games of watching the Cardinals since I was a kid that they win. Just when you think they’re out, just when you think that they’re dead, they they kind of kick their leg a little bit. Almost like a cockroach. Like you step on it once, it’s still kind of moving. You walk away, you think it’s done, and then you come back an hour later, it’s still kind of moving. I agree with everything you guys are saying, but I think the Cardinals, very similar to last year when they lost to the Commanders and I think they were like they had one win on the season. They came off backto-back losses to the Commanders and the Lions. And I was and they went on the road to San Francisco and I said they’re going to win this game because it feels like a game the Cardinals win. The Packers have the better quarterback. They have probably the uh they got the the better head coach and the better offensive line and the better running back. They’re at home. They’ve got some demons that I think they need to rectify with the uh uh uh with the Green Bay Packers. Give us the score prediction. We got an hour show here, dude. I think that they’re going to win. Give us the score prediction. Give me 2724 walk-off Chad Ryland field goal from 48 yards out. I’m going to kid you 48 yards out. I’m calling it. I’m calling it. I think they win. I think this is what and then we have another week where we’re talking about okay let’s see what this looks like and then they go into Dallas and like I think that this team is still alive although like you know TBD on if that’s actually going to be the case in two weeks from now because I think they’re going to win and then you know then eventually they lose and here we go they love sunshine and rainbows Ben optimism Ben there you go taking it from you for one day’s rubbing off on Ben I think that’s a good thing I don’t think it could ever be a bad So, the last time the Cardinals played the Packers was last year when it was one of the most embarrassing one of the most embarrassing losses they had. Uh, that I think that sparked the four game win streak if I’m not mistaken. I think that was the thing that woke them up and then they won a bunch of games in a row against bad teams. And then it was the seven and0 turnaround with Rousul Douglas who was on the Cardinals practice squad two weeks prior and then intercepted the ball that stopped the Cardinals win streak. There was the Chase Edmonds win where he had three touchdowns I think in Green Bay years ago. And then there was the game in 2015 with the two Hail Maryries from Aaron Rogers. Like this is You forgot about Josh Rosen beating Aaron Rogers. That was the year with Chase Edmonds probably. Oh, was it? Okay, I’m sorry. Continue. I think I think had three touchdowns. Two or three. I think he it was a Chase Edmonds game. That was the game that got Mike McCarthy fired basically. Yeah. So, uh I don’t know. It’s a weird relationship with these teams, but the the Packers have always won and the Cardinals have been bad. So, um I don’t know. I just If the Cardinals win, that’s great. Of course, it’ll be brain melting. That’s what I’m saying. That’s what I’m saying. If the Cardinals can win this game, like I’m not saying they can’t. You asked for my prediction though. So, so just just going off of what you ask. Okay. So, the Arizona Cardinals like they this is what I remember last year. They started off 1 and three. They beat the tar out of the Rams in that massive 4110 game. They lost the uh Lions. They lost to the Commanders. They were facing a must-win game on the road. They went over and beat San Francisco. They were two and three. Then Clancy is right. They lost 3413. Then they beat the Chargers, Dolphins, Bears, Jets, and uh they were 6 and4. And you thought better about them. But I mean, it’s a better team, man. But like I think you get an even more desperate Cardinals team. I don’t think Sunday was a mirage. I think it was a little bit mirage. like meaning how well Jacobe Brouset played. But I think this system is going to fit Jacobe better than Kyler. I think there was a statistic out there like Jacobe Bratet was under center 16 times. Kyler Murray’s been under center like 17 times all year. So I think the Cardinals found what they want to do differently with a bigger quarterback. And I I think that they come out and win this game. Man, TB don’t anything else? I’m not changing anything else, but they’re desperate. They’re at home. It’s going to be 7030 Packers fans, but 70% Packers fans is better than 100% at Lambeau Field. I think with a little adversity, they find a way to win this game. And then God, dude, can you imagine what we’re talking about on Monday? If Jacobe Verset beats the Green Bay Packers, I would love it. I would love it. I would love it. Does Kyler Murray play? Does Kyler Murray play against the Cowboys? No. Oh man. Yes. Clarence is gonna say yes. I’m gonna say no. If you’re going down with the ship, that means you’re going down with Kyler Murray, too. Listen, let’s hear it, Jal. Let’s freaking hear it. If I’m going down with the ship and I just watch my quarterback have the game that he did against the Colts and then we go and we get a a win versus the Packers. I’m start that guy. I’mma start that guy after the by-week. I Yeah. So, bless your heart for that. You’re thinking rationally. Okay. This is never a watch. Welcome to the Cardinals land. You’ve played in the NFL for competent franchises and Miami and the Cardinals have been, you know, not that. You know what? What? I could pile on with Miami if he does. Like, I love it. You’re not going to get you’re not get anything from me. Okay. The Cardinals are their always their own worst enemy. Always. Now, this is a much more competent version of that. A much more much more functional and culturally, you know, competent version of that. But ain’t no way Kyler Murray’s not starting no matter what when he’s healthy. Like I don’t think there’s a world that happens. Should it happen, should he be benched, wouldn’t be original story, but dude, unless they blow him out, unless they put up 40 plus points and everything and Marv is nine for 120, which we was on pace for last week. Like Marv had two big chunk gains last week. J, you’re right and you’re completely wrong when it comes to this team for this specifically. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It’s It’s too logical. I think I think Monty says, “Uh, if they go ahead and they beat the Packers, I think Monty says, “Hey, I want my guy in there.” Do you trade Kyler Murray then? At that point, you’re not going to start I think you wait till the end of the season, you get the most. But if you’re not starting Kyler Murray when he’s healthy, why is he on the team? If you’re not start Okay, if he I I believe I believe in his contract if he if he gets another bad injury, his his I’m speculating. I’ve seen this before. If he has another bad injury, his Well, is I’ve seen it in there that if he has another bad injury, all of his money is guaranteed. Injury. Well, he hasn’t had a bad Yeah, I don’t I don’t know what aliens. I have no idea. Like ah, there it is. Suspect. Uh, where was that? Dang it. Sweet. His salary becomes fully guaranteed. Okay. His Ker’s contract, his salary becomes fully guaranteed if he is unable to pass a physical due to an injury before a certain date in March. I got to find that. Okay, so this is a foot injury. He didn’t His leg didn’t fall off, you know, like he’ll be fine by then. I was right, though. And well, he was going to play with the Cardinals. Yeah, we wasted like four minutes. He was gonna play with the Cardinals or he’s gonna play somewhere else and it’s going to be the same thing. He’s like, the beauty of this is the Capit’s going to be the exact same thing. They wrote this in the contract for a reason. If you want to trade him, this is the year to trade him and then another team will restructure it. Give him a couple extra years and he’ll be the franchise guy. Like he’s gonna be a New York Jet dog. Maybe. Oh man, could you imagine the overpay that they’ll send? Could you imagine a panicked Aaron Glenn looking for a guy? You take you take Kyler M. Do you take um Yes. Breeze Hall in a second for Kyler Murray? Yeah. Because here’s the thing, like I’d hold up. This is hold on and everybody in the chat relax like I’m not saying this is going to happen, okay? But if what J says rationally, if the Packer if the Cardinals beat the Packers and it’s pretty convincing, okay, then they don’t start Kyler Murray in week nine when he’s healthy, trade him. Like at that point, you’ve given up on Kyler Murray, which I guess somewhat rightfully so, even though this is never going to happen. So, but that’s the dominoes that will fall. If you send him one game due to performance, healthy scratch or QB2, there’s no coming back from that ever, ever. Send them to New York, dude. Talking about dumb franchises. Um, the New York Jets. Oh, they would overpay. They would overpay for a quarterback. I mean, dude, they they I think they gave a What was that? They’ll take Kyler Murray. Oh, yeah, dude. Especially a panicked head coach and Aaron Glenn that’s looking for anything to save his job right now. If that dude goes two and for 14 two and 15 like I don’t know if he’s keeping his job. He won’t be there long enough to go two and 14 or two and 15 15. Yeah. Yeah. He he won’t. But I don’t know. And that’s something we can talk about. We’ll have plenty to talk about during the by-week next week. If the Cardinals win this game, hey, that could be the whole show next week. Yeah. Every angle. Let’s go. Jacobe. Jimmy. The old heads, man. Come on. Oh god. Where? How did we get here already? It’s week freaking bro. It’s crazy. I just Let’s move. On Sunday when the game is over, Clancy will immediately go live, do a 15 8 to 18 minute instant reaction on the show, and then 60 seconds, maybe 120 seconds, Clancy will join us. will go live directly after him and we will talk about this team beating the Green Bay Packers on Sunday and we’ll be dissecting it. We’ll have a full-blown quarterback controversy or who knows, maybe Kyler walks out there fully healthy and just dominates the Packers and it’s business as usual. But with that being said, for everyone in the chat, AV Cardinals, my guy MB Miles, uh Eeris Juen, I think is I think that’s his name. Uh for everyone tuning in, Cameron, we appreciate you guys being here. Michael Gingi name 1395. Appreciate all you guys being here. Don’t forget to like, share, subscribe. We will see you guys after the game on Sunday for Jal, for myself, for Clancy. We’ll talk to you guys.

Will Kyler Murray’s return spark a Cardinals upset against the Packers? The Arizona Cardinals face a crucial matchup as they prepare to host the Green Bay Packers at State Farm Stadium.

Former NFL offensive lineman Jamil Douglas joins the discussion, offering insights on Murray’s leadership and the offensive line’s challenges. The hosts analyze Jacoby Brissett’s recent performance and debate whether he should keep the starting job if he outplays Murray. They break down key matchups, including the Cardinals’ offensive line versus the Packers’ pass rush, and explore potential trade scenarios as the deadline approaches.

Tune in for expert predictions and find out why this game could be a turning point for the Cardinals’ season.

0:00 Intro: Cardinals players return to practice
5:37 Should Kyler Murray play if not fully healthy?
11:12 Andrew Whitworth criticizes Kyler Murray’s leadership
17:38 Keys for Cardinals to beat the Packers
31:46 Score predictions for Cardinals vs Packers
40:34 Marvin Harrison Jr.’s potential impact vs Packers
48:03 Final score predictions and analysis
55:36 Speculation on Kyler Murray’s future with Cardinals

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