Will Things EVER Get Better For The Calgary Flames?? 😬 | FN Barn Burner

Flames on home ice fall to the Winnipeg Jets by a score of two to one. Did they go to OT? I I thought they were going to I did too. Son of I was 31 with an empty net. Those guys let me down. Five uh five minutes left. Say this. We’re going we’re going overtime for sure. But uh damn. A little twoon one. Kyle Connor to Mark Shley. Back of the net. Made it two to one and they tucked that thing in. I said yesterday and I’m sticking to my guns. Dustin Wolf is the least of this team’s problems and after having some games that were probably in the just okay category, I thought he was again their best player like he was in their only win of the season in Edmonton. I knew they’d play harder. Yes. And I knew they’d work harder and and put out a good effort. So I watched the Jays game. Yes. We knew how that was going to go. Yeah. I could only watch so many champagne soaked interviews before I jumped over to a one- one tie midway through the I was amazed at how fast they put up the stands in the field. I thought that was tough. That was real high-end stuff that they were able crying. It’s good stuff. Yeah, it was really But I I did listen to you uh on your Afterburner. Oh yes. Podcast numbers. Yeah. So uh I feel like I’m well informed. You’re up to date on what took place. A lot of J’s in that postgame show. I got to be honest. Oh, Cammy couldn’t wait to talk about the Jays. She had the highlights all ready to roll. She Okay, Jack, do you have the home run? Yeah. Well, there was only one goal that the Flames scored. Well, that’s that’s kind of the one it’s the one point that I made, and I’ll maybe throw it out there to the group here today. Feels like it’s a tall order for your goalie when you score one. Yeah. In order to win, he can’t really let any in. I Hey, if you want to win in regulation at least, you know, is this team challenged to score goals? Yes. No. Were they lasting early? Yes. Did we expect them to be challenged to score goals? Yes. Does your goalie have to be pretty much the best player for you to beat a good team if they’re on? Yes. It’s just early. They played against Hella Buck. He’s a good goalie. He’s a good goalie. He made some good saves there late. He’s also huge. I don’t know how many are good saves versus just like, damn, there’s no room for that puck to go in. And it also just seemed like a constant fire drill around Wol’s net. It’s like, well, now I’ve lost my stick. I’m still making kick saves and it’s like a it’s a [ __ ] pinball machine over here, guys. Could we clear a goddamn puck? Maybe once in a while. Um, I got a text from uh one Julian McKenzie, you may recall. Oh, yeah. The uh two too legit to kick. He drafted two kickers in our league. Yeah. Back to back. Never have enough kickers. Can’t have enough. And he his thing was, “When did the flames get this bad?” I feel like I’m throwing him under the bus here, but he’s like, “Jesus, I’m not going. Can you give me a And it’s uh it’s like I think they’ve always been this bad.” Yeah. It’s just right now the the the puck’s really not going in. It’s never going to go in at an incredible rate, Harry. Right. But at this point, it’s not going their way. It is. It is now six games in a row that they’ve lost. Now, over the course of a season, when you look at a six-game losing streak, a lot of teams will say, “That was the low point of our season.” You’re damn right it was. And right now, the Flames will say, “No, that’s pretty much our season cuz they’ve played seven games.” Oh. So, since they had the off the skate, high stick shouldn’t have counted Stu Skinner gift, they’ve gone one goal, two goal, two goal, one goal, one goal, one goal. Don’t get smart me. Well, I’m just saying like they have not hit three goals since opening night when to be fair, they probably should have had zero. I feel like last year we had this conversation and they were still winning. But they they scored a bunch at the early part of the season. No, but there was I remember Pinder going we haven’t gotten to over three in a month. See four of 82. They were three or less. But three seems like a tall task now. Last year three was like, okay, we can get three, but the fourth is impossible. This year three only happened when trap it up. Trap your [ __ ] up. I mean trapping doesn’t lead to goals is the problem. You can trap all you want. You’re not but you just you you have to sometimes listen I am not a uh a bean salad guy. But when bean salad is part of your defense that you’re re relying on. When Jake bean salad is part of your trap defense Jake bean salad. Uh that makes things difficult. It’s Yeah. That was a great defensive effort. Yeah, they held the Jets to two goals. That’s the team that won the West. You want to win that game except you you you didn’t didn’t. Last year we came in and suspected that the defense and the goalending was going to be an issue and a they’ll get enough goals and then it was oh boy they can score a lot of goals and then it started to regress and right you could see how that came to be. Now you’re trying to squint and see, okay, it’s the this they’re on track to be one of the worst offensive teams potentially ever at a one to two goal a night pace. Dean, how but the the hard part is now so how does it how does this improve cuz it won’t be this bad all year. There’s going to be stretches where they score and they win and you just know that’s going to happen. But it doesn’t feel like they’re I I don’t It was 33 shots. I don’t think Hella Buck at the end of the night was like, “Hey, I don’t know who we’re playing next, but I need that night off cuz I’m I got shelled tonight.” No, but he was good. Yeah, I agree though. He wasn’t like Yeah, they don’t create enough. They don’t finish enough. They don’t create enough. And it’s probably a function of having to be so good defensively that you’re trading off the chance for an oddman rush to trap it up. And I’m oversimplifying, but and again like who on this team would you write down in pen and say that guy’s getting us 30? Nobody. Can you show me the lineup? Like in pencil you could say maybe Cadre does it again. Maybe Coronado finds I don’t want to rely on Cadri at 35 or 36. And so that’s why it’s not in pen. They don’t have a guy you can put down for 30. Do you think they’re doing any hand ringing down at the I said it well I kind of brought up with you yesterday and I said it to Cammy last night but then so here’s another day. You’ve lost six in a row. What’s Huska? What are you are we playing music during practice and having cake? Remember was Are we lining up for like Jeff Ward playing ABBA at practice lighting the mood? Are we getting paddled before? Like I throwing a stick into the 10th row. Crumble crumble. Crumbles in crumble. It’s October 21st. It’s real early. You’re having to spin all of your your coaching ps and techniques. Every night there’s a lineup tweak. Always a new pair here and a different wing combination there. He’s trying to shake some offense out. But it’s just like going to the chef and giving them shitty ingredients. You can’t make filet minion out of crap. I think you should take the coaching out of the coach’s hands and go into the room and say, “You guys write the goddamn lineup on.” Yeah. right up. Figure out what you want to do. Pull names from a hat or tag or put the sticks in the middle. I don’t care how you could whatever. Whatever. We don’t have to have a Well, you don’t have a one, two, and one, two, three, four line, right? You have You have a second line of best. Yes. Do you think if Lombberg’s on the top line that or whatever you’re considering the top line is that it’s significantly handicapped? No. No, I say you get to the rink. Husk, get to the rink. Sticks at center. Blindfold. One, two, three. That’s one line. Two, three. One, two, three. One, two, three. That’s four lines. That’s eight fingers, but four lines. And you have a little scrimmage. And uh buy some pizza. Yeah. Sammies. Love Sammy. And get the f out of there. Henley, you’re center tonight. Sorry. Those were just the forward. I didn’t do the D. I didn’t do the D. Yeah, those are just the forwards. Uh Cammy was asking last night, what do you do now with Sharon Goic? You lost. Do you Is there a lesson that’s been sent or a message that’s been sent and you just want to repeat myself? He’s he’s one of the few guys that you feel like might be able to score for you and you desperately need goals. You desperately need to score. Why am I on D? So I think you have it’s like okay play him on D with weaker. You’re back in. You gotta get play on D with weaker. I don’t know that. And the other sparse the other wrinkle cuz Miro’s on waivers is that which Miro top four cheapest top four defenseman Miro a 78 miro on waivers. Uh the get last year’s first 30 October 21st. They gave it a try. It got turn styly. It does leave the team at plus minus still. They didn’t put him on waiverss a month ago and they could have kept Slovia in Colorado. Uh Pospasil is going to rejoin this asset management. What’s Pospasel going to do? Well, you got to find a spot for him now, too. That’s the problem. It’s like maybe you’re ready to put Jaron Gobic back in for somebody. Oh, okay. It’s a problem. How big a problem are we talking? Like if Husk is not losing sleep over this problem, he’s got to call me. I’m going to walk him off the ledge here. you you don’t have to walk the plank. Don’t lose any sleep over this. Put someone in the lineup. It doesn’t make a difference. Yeah, I agree. It’s just the problem is they’ve collected a ton of bottom six wingers. Yeah. And so now it’s just like which shuffle is going to be overslotted on the second line. This one or that one? I would love it. I would and I would do it and then I’d get fired cuz owners are too serious. I would actually go in there with the bingo machine with everyone’s number and the ball in there and have it pop. All right, you’re in and you’re out. Sorry. Under the B10. That’s the guys would laugh about it. Holy [ __ ] Is this happen? Yes, this is happening cuz I don’t know what to do. You guys are terrible. G47. That’s Zary. Okay. Um and B11 back and there’s the line. fun with it cuz it’s stressing out is not Oh god, where do I put Sherry go? I popcorn again. I don’t know. No, I’m not losing any sleep. It doesn’t matter. I’ve sent Jack the uh the lines from last night. So, short of a bingo machine cuz do we have the bingo? I’ve always wanted to get the kino machine. I’ve always wanted to be on that. I got the hand cranker one cuz when we had co you had to play bingo online with your family. So we could do like a Okay. So number here number two is a kick in the ass or whatever and just kind of okay whatever you want to do with that machine I20 Blake Coleman have a lot of fun with that. Yeah. Again I think this is was said before the show. They have a lot of wingers and unless the NHL is there is are there 30 teams looking for middle to bottom six wingers. So that’s I like this uh lineup card though. Yeah, it fits on the screen. Who did that? Uh Jack wasn’t Jack. You did. I didn’t make that. No. That’s great. It kind of has a retro feel to it though. It kind of does. And you can see everyone. It’s good. So Kirkland at center. He came in as Sharon Govich went out. And then if Pospasell is soon to be back, assuming you want Sharon Govich and Pospasell in the lineup again, it’s not hard, but there are two men who will be coming out. Uh you can send Hanzik down and get him some minutes in the A. That’s fine. He doesn’t need waiverss. That’s not going to be a problem if he’s anti that move. I’m I’m the other way. Yeah, Farabby has been snake bit. I’d leave. Well, again, I’m using the bingo machine, so I don’t know who’s going in and out, but none of you are staying in because you deserve it. But you you told Husk to give you a call. Yeah. So, let’s just Hey. Hey, Red. It’s Husk. So, you you were saying it’s you like what do I do here? Okay. So, what are my problem? What am I What am I dealing with? You want to get You’re probably going to want to get Sharon Goic back in and posell. All right. Sharon Govich and Pospusel. Kirkland’s out. Who’s playing the middle? Zary because he wants to be a centerman. Okay. So Zary goes 4C. Yeah. And the other the other two uh can play with Frost and then scratch Hanza. Hanza comes out or Clapka. Yeah. Was there any passengers last night? Like that felt like a good team effort. Like was there anyone that was like ah this guy like have a seat. That’s the problem you have when you’re trying to bring someone in from the rafters is someone has to come out. Again not Huska’s biggest problem. His biggest problem is his team is not skilled enough to score much in this league. Well, if 11 didn’t have the C on his jersey and an extension, I’d consider sitting his ass, too. But you got you need centers. That’s the thing. Well, what are you talking about? We don’t Those are centers. How are they helping? Put Zary at center and Hanzik at center. Who What’s the difference going to be? We’re going to score less goals. You’re going to lose more draws for sure. And and you’re going to not have the puck as much. Oh, God forbid. Yeah. Well, I mean, look, I’m not saying these guys are playing well. I’m just saying the one area they’re flooded is wing, and the one area they’re have a der of is centers. So, that’s why Justin Kirkland’s in the NHL. How many teams does Justin Kirkland play center in the NHL? Lack of like a a void. Yeah. So, get some of these dumbass, sorry, they’re not dumb ass. Get some of these guys to be able to play center. Yeah. And we have too many winners. You just said I agree. So, my point would be if you’re going to send Hosic to the A, play the S out of them at center ice. Now you then you might have something for the second half of the year. You said just more on Hanzik. Ryan had said send him down. You’re like no. You said no. I I’m at the point where we’re still faking that we’re going to be good this year if we’re trying to put the best put the kids in the damn lineup. That’s what I’m getting at. If you don’t want to and if you want to pretend that you’re going to put a charge on and win 10 games in a row, okay, well that’s your prerogative. Go ahead. But you’re only you’re not going to hurt your playoff chances by playing Hanzac and who’s the kid that’s already down there? Gridden. Yeah. Yeah. Or Karen’s. Yeah. Like you could definitely go way younger and it would not hurt your chances of getting McKenna. I’ll tell you that. Or make the playoffs because you’re not you’re not. It’s it’s not the odds. Do we have the odds, guy? I just I got it in the pin report. We talked about on bet 365 that the team total for the season was around 83 and a half, 84, whatever. Different books, different spots. Uh they now uh they update these every night 77 a half. Where do you think that ranks amongst the 32 NHL teams? 29th. It is tied for third from the bottom, which would be 29th 30th. Them and Pittsburgh at 77 and a half. The only teams projected to get fewer points by the unemotional, unbiased sports book, Chicago and San Jose. Like, believe it or not, you are right in the thick of Mission McKenna right now. Don’t miss that. Don’t think you’re something you’re not. You are in the McKenna sweep stakes. Operate as such. So, to Rhett’s point, I understand coaches are paid to win. You just got a nice extension. Everyone in the organization has to understand that being bad for a short amount of time will make you much better in the long term. Picking 10th this year does not turn the ship around in time for a new building. That kid’s not in the NHL in two years. Picking first, second, or third, that kid might get a a season in the Saddle Dome before he goes to the new building. I I I don’t like I don’t disagree with it, but there is you still have to get to the bit of the lottery balls. But but it’s game seven. I know. Yeah, but you pissed them all away. So what? It’s not our fault. So we’re supposed to lie and say, “Oh, you guys are going to turn the corner.” It’s just, “Oh, you guys are right on the cusp.” And and to flip that around, we talk about the 96 points they had. Tell me about their 50 and1 start and those 11 points they got. Like if they don’t have those 11, let’s say they got six, we’re talking about a team that’s not even close to being in a tiebreaker playoff. I guess just understand I’m I’m not saying they’re better than they are. I’m just saying as the coach’s job is to try and win. Correct. You’ve played seven job. So what do you do? Coaches and Sorry, I cut you off. Do you want to keep going? No, I you’ve got a locker room full of guys who are like, I don’t give a [ __ ] about a rebuild. Yeah, you’re right. You’re right. I want to beat the Habs tomorrow. Okay. I don’t know how excited they are to beat the Habs. Make it fun. And I’m not Jo. Yes, it’s a ridiculous and they’d never do it because it’s professional sports, but you know what they should do? They should bring the bingo thing into the room and do use it. Make it fun. Yeah. Because there’s nothing that’s going to rally these guys as far as a carrot or give them a carrot cuz the stick ain’t working. Yeah. It’s not going to work. They aren’t talented enough for a stick to work. It’s just keep beating the double horse. Like come on. We got you better make it enjoyable for these guys to be at the rink. I think that’s part of it. And like a year ago it was everything went great and then we’re 96 the whole thing. They were rallying cuz it was fun. Watching some of the watching Blake Coleman talk after a game dead weight. They they know. They know. Yes, they know. The deeper this trough gets, the sooner I think from Owner through to the AHL, they understand what the mission is this season. I understand if they’re not there yet. I get it. But you’ve scored more than two goals once and you should not have. It was a gift. And I said this before and I think it’s probably something to just be Craig Conroy, the GM, says some things and and does some things. Pay attention to what he’s doing more than what he’s saying because he’s gonna say the right things, right? We Oh, if we can add some scoring help. If we can get some player, he’s gonna say these things. That’s doing your job. If we could get some defense, we’d really like to help this team. We got to make a push. We want to make the playoffs. We think we’re a playoff. He is going to tell you these things. But he did not add a big name on July 1st. He like this. He knows what he’s got here. Yeah, he does. He knows what he’s got. The question I have is does the owner and but and it that we don’t we don’t but it’s headed towards being so vividly clear unmistakable what they are. This franchise has never rebuilt by choice. They’ve only been forced into it because the team was so bad. And it appears that this season could go that way too. Very likely. They took two too many men on the ice penalties in the second period last night in a six, seven minute span. Well, don’t play. They went They went 0 for five on the power play. They scored one goal. Yeah, the game’s there if you got some more talent. But it’s just they got the Habs, then the Jets, Rangers, then the Rangers. We’re good on the road. The trough could get deep. Good. So what? Good. Then then they can be forced into some good decisions. Yeah. For the organization, like long term, that’s the best thing to happen for and by organization, I mean management and up. Make it crystal clear. We’ve got no options here, fellas. How’s it going to be going in Ontario once you’re done with the Rangers? How would you like to be in the bingo for McKenna and trade Anderson for another first and be like Yeah. Okay. And have the chat with Coleman and have the chat with Codri and move Hanley at the deadline and have like and and and and this team in the spring might be fun. I don’t know that they’ll be structured and good, but like you bring up a breast, you have a grid in Andrew Basha, maybe you’re ready to play. Like maybe Hanzix’s in the middle. Like you can start to see this roster turning over because for all the talk of a rebuild like they really didn’t sell a single piece until it was that one year where it was Lindholm, Tanv, Hannifan, Zidorov, like to your point, they stood pat. They didn’t sell last year. Status quo. It’s the same rosters as last year minus the backup goalie. Yeah. And they they did what they usually do, which is get to the deadline where if you were going to sell anything, you probably aren’t going to because you think you’re a playoff. Sorry, Jack. Can you throw that back up? God, Jack just gets so fancy pants. Well, he wants to get out of here. Guess. So, yeah, it’s the Habs who are one of the They are rolling right now. They’re offensively gifted. They are uh they’re having fun. They’re having fun. Uh the Jets will play Thursday and then Friday. So the Flames will go in there catching them on a backto back. I guess is might not get hella buck. How you would frame that? I don’t know what the Rangers are. It seems like they’re may there’s some turmoil there as well as they win and lose and the they’re taking a lot of heat for being three four and one. Yeah, they’re taking cuz all their losses are at home. That’s why. And then it’s it’s a road trip into Toronto. And yeah, I I it doesn’t matter. Schedule is a schedule and there’s good games coming up and some But if you’ve had looking for tapins when you’re in the last place, good luck. There aren’t any. If you’ve had if you had your your seven or eight game losing streak in your first nine or 10 games, they might do it twice, right? I it’s not I know it’s disheartening and it’s going to make for one hell of a long season, but where are you expecting this to go? Like long seasons end with high draft picks, boys. I’m ready for one. It’s like I said to the kids when they were trying out for their teams, Dean, I said, listen, you go out there, you give her your all, you do your best, whatever happens happens. There’s no downside, Dean. You know why? Because if you get cut from that team, you get dad to coach you. So if they play bad reps coming in, that’s called a balance. Like that that’s a balancing act, Dino. Mhm. Eevee Stevie. And they work their tails off to make those kids motivated after that. Yo, my dog. Yeah, I got called out on that the other day. You lied to me about the dog. Well, you did. I mean, I said prove it. That is circumstantial. Time is doesn’t stand still. There’s still no smoking gun. Yeah. Where’s the recorded it? Oh, well, you know, um Zayn Perk got hit again last night. Get out of the way, kid. Along the boards again. I don’t I The Siz hit going back to the game Vegas played here. Caught him at the at the blue line. Did we think that was a Is that a He kind of gave it to the old chicken wing maybe a little bit, but maybe that’s what you do to kind of help it along. He also pre What’s he doing? He’s just the head’s down here, right? What’s the noise he made? Well, he’s looking at the Okay, that’s fair. I’m not saying I just I think Zay’s smart. You were just off mic. That’s all. He was off killed. Yeah, I because I didn’t think it was a egregious or dirty hit. And last night, Neidon needer comes in and finish finishes him along the boards again. I think maybe Zayn was a little unaware and uh left the game, did come back. Two hits in three games. Yeah. Yeah. It’s a young man finding his way. I don’t know if is this you have to learn how to take a hit cuz you’re talking that you’re going to get hit. You better learn who you’re out against. Yeah. At all levels, we don’t we’ve talked about it. There doesn’t seem to be as much physicality or big hitting anymore. Tell that to my kid. And then and then in I would guess in junior where he’s so many levels skill wise. I’m talking about the one in No, I I Yeah, I know what you’re talking. Okay. Uh oh, you’re talking back to correct. Back to back to me, Rat. Um do you worry at all? Because all it would take if it’s Tom Wilson and not Nino Netherritider, if it’s somebody who’s looking to make an impact and I’m gonna I’m gonna finish this hard. I worry about a lot of things, Dino and this is not one of them. Honestly, the whole thing about this season with Pere is it’s a guy that should be in the A that’s not allowed to go to the A. And so he’s going to figure out what works and what doesn’t in this league and he’s smart. We know that. I would expect him to figure out. Time and space are different in this league. You weren’t going to get hit there in the O. you are in the NHL. If it happens every third game, I’ll be worried. But he’s figuring out how what works and what doesn’t here. Yeah. Peric Gustafson used to get crushed in Florida all the time as a 26-y old. So, it doesn’t matter if you’re young or old. You just got to get used to leaked, you know. Figure it out. Figure it out. Better to not take those hits. Figure it out, dude. Oh, yeah. I’m looking at the goals for this is very What? There’s seven. What are you looking Yeah. How How much time can you spend looking at all of the goals for? Well, the Rangers are second last in the league. They’re even two goals a game. The Flames are almost at one. I I still don’t know what What do you trying to find solace that things are going to come around? Are we honestly some weirdo scientificy [ __ ] that’ll tell us that Well, they’re not getting any puck luck. That’s obvious. the goals against in the Frank of in beans is uh yeah the the expected bean salad per 60 is a little high. No, they’re going to more of these pucks are going to go in, but just they they might get to two and a half a game, but they’re not like they’re not going to be a top third 25 in the league scoring team. They don’t have the horses. They didn’t last year. They finished 29th last year out of 32 teams. Bean salad’s going to stick around for a little bit, I think, whenever things aren’t going well. What is a photo? I’ll tell you what, last night a lot of [ __ ] bean salad going on out there. I was watching champagne and filet minion and I switched over to the flames game and it was bean salad. Bean salad. That’s That was my night. Weirdo scientificy [ __ ] Don’t you have any of what I’m talking about? Yeah. The country’s not going to be stuck at zero goals with the zero shooting percentage. We know that he’s going to get his 20. He was sure shooting a lot yesterday. That’s what you got to do. Three minutes. I saw uh Zayn correct you saying. Oh, Godrey. But honestly, we’ve sat here for three years talking about you probably need to look in the mirror and be honest about what you are. This is your chance. somebody on the like I guess it was last night on the uh on the post game was kind of talking about that they’ve got young players but there’s no game breakers and you saw that even like with the Jets last night it’s tie game five minutes left we got a chance Connor Shley bang game breakers high-end talent guys that can change the game with just like that and yeah it does not feel like the Flames are close to having that maybe it’s a goal post, maybe you get a shot on net. Yeah. And some posts will start going in, but you’re still going to be incredibly you’re still hindered. I don’t even want to say it. I’m getting cheeky. But McKenna is the greatest thing that could ever happen. And I I understand you need to win a lottery. And I understand that Chicago and Pittsburgh and San McKenna. Maybe it’s the next best off. Yeah. Jack is a pretty You want a 6’5 right shot top pair D? Yeah, I do. Let’s go. But point being like if you can start the wheels turning a little sooner on this. It’s going to help your odds. It’s not guaranteeing anything. It doesn’t make things simple, but you basically want to have the safest bet you’ve got at getting a good player at the draft in June. So if there’s a deal that’s fair for Rasmus in December, do you need to wait three months? You don’t. Yeah, that’ll be like deletion is addition long term. As soon as you start pulling away these guys that are NHLers, that’s going to hurt you in the point column because they’re not going to, you know, win one out of every seven. They’ll be better than that. Nobody’s this bad. The Sabres tanking for McDavid weren’t this bad through and if you want to pro rate seven games over the whole year. Well, what’s 71 points? Is that what they have Matt now? 77 and a half was the bet 365 total. And they’ve got How many points do you get for a win? You get two. So 35 times two is 70. Yeah. Are they going to get 35 wins? And no. Jack made a noise. I don’t know if that came over the mic or not. Honestly, now is not the time, right? They they they’re not scoring. They’re Well, I mean, this this could end truly this could be the worst part of their season. They may not lose six in a row. Worse than this. What are you talking about? I’m just You mix in some W. Maybe you lose four of six. If Jack has the schedule there, it’s like Nashville, Chicago. Like there’s some teams that aren’t division leaders coming up. If you have the effort you did last night and the goalending you had last night and it’s not Kyler how hell at the other end, those could be wins. You’re going to win some games, but don’t go getting yourself in the mucky middle again. Get ahead of this. Like Flyers, Predators, Blue Jackets, Black, that’s four in a row. Those are all winnable games for this team in the sense that if you have the better goalie, you outwork them, you can win those. You can outwork and have the better goalender in the games before that and still lose because you just they’re so much more talented than you. The talent gap is much smaller with the PRs, Flyers, Blue Jackets, or Blackhawks. Plus, we’re going to be in Nashville for that one. They’re going to be They’re going to be so excited to have us. They’re going to be so excited. Be so pumped to We is going to come and give Red a hug. He loves hugs. Wearing wearing our breazeers and cowboy hats. Can’t wait. Can’t wait. Still in our Halloween costumes from the night before. The other thing that tomorrow could be, we know what the Habs experience is like at the dome at the best of times. Now the Flames are on a skid and the the Hab fans are excited. Like last night, the Blue Jays got a bigger roar than the Flames did at any part of Not even close. This is this the hard it could be it what I’m saying is it could be bordering on kind of embarrassing morale busting for the Flames. People as fans need to stop and I maybe stop’s not the one shot. Don’t do you want whatever. I’m just saying that we’ll be smmy and we can laugh about it but don’t go to the dome and throw a jersey on the ice. It’s what they are. Yeah. Yeah. It’s what they are. Let’s think about with the our eyes wide open, our brain actually working. Well, they don’t score. They’re not offensively gifted. They’ve got no high-end talent. They’re getting older with a bunch of guys. They’ve got some real good second, third line guys. Anderson wants out of here. They’re playing them with Bean or Hanley or whoever else. Like, recognize what the team is and don’t don’t piss and moan about it. I think there’s such a huge portion of this fan base that is ready to sacrifice. I know. But that’s the that’s where it gets shitty as a player and as a fan because it’s we’re seven games in kind throwing in the towel, however you want to describe it. Don’t go to the dome and boo. Don’t go to the Yes, it’s your right to to cheer or or criticize, but I just This isn’t the players. I’m with you. You know, go ahead. Boot. Don’t throw [ __ ] in the ice. Don’t be wearing. Yeah. This is not a team that should be at a, you know, tremendous levels. This isn’t last year’s Rangers, right? This isn’t a group that should that won the President’s Trophy that looks like underperforming. Yeah, they are what they are. And this might be the best thing for you as a fan. I think most people get that. I really do. But I’m with you. Question about paper bags. Uh, yeah. Don’t wear a paper early. Ear early for paper bags early. No, there’s nothing to be embarrassed about. It’s not embarrassing. It might be disappointing. It might be, you know, darn. This is a lost season. Except if you win the lottery. Yeah. When game 82 is over, except that in three years if you’re significantly better because you didn’t have a good season, just don’t be ignorant about it. Like, and we will be because we have to talk. We’re [ __ ] We you know what we need to do truly and you brought it up earlier and I think it’s great. It’s all coming together now. You’re an idea guy. I do. We do need to invest in a bingo machine. Yeah. Because with the draft lottery and all that. We’re going to be doing so much bingo ball talk and everything. We should really get a bingo ball machine. Jack, run that up the flag. See if the bosses we can uh pull off a $7. See if we can get that purchase. Is there some sort of a Kinsman group that’s got an old one you’re trying to get rid of? Great idea. Some sort of kino thing from channel 8 20 years ago. There’s some some uh community charity group out there because yeah, there’s probably one that’s sitting there. Are we gonna got to get rid of this goddamn But I actually mean it. Like I I know that we have fun and we take cheap shots. You call whatever you want. I don’t care that they’re bad. Would I prefer they’re good? Yeah, but I prefer they’re really good. And in this midling good in this year, your actual big picture preference is to be god awful and get McKenna. I’m sorry. That’s it. That would that this is the best case scenario. Two years. Great. The next two years, get studs. Get studs. High end. Keep picking, grabbing first rounders. Keep getting rid of guys that are on the wrong side of 30. Keep amassing young talents. Keep having strong drafts. Keep developing kids in the A. And finally hit a superstar at the top of the draft. Finally. Stop giving out friend contracts. But I’ll take a job if you cuz you’re a friend of I get it now. I know. It’s funny that works. Double standard of sorts. Love to work for you guys. Hey buddies, thanks for watching. We appreciate it. 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24 comments
  1. The Flames had Iggy and Kipper for their primes and never got anyone to play with them, it's a sad life watching the Flames screw up everything over and over again, the 80s Flame's were a powerhouse and it's been 3 fluke seasons in the last 35 years and never ending disappointment.

  2. Well if I'm GM Conroy…..I'd sell off the left over talent (Anderson, Khadri, Weegar, Huberdeau etc…the big contracts…) for picks and have fun with the kids. Have a great first round draft and if they want to buy in 2026 offseason….. I doubt that….when a trade happens players will want to come to a brand new building with a young core ready to be a contender imho……next year to tank wound benefit the Flames again if it means early draft talent. Please no more picking 14 ..16th over all!!! The coilers are old now so last kick at the Cat's for them eh? lol

  3. You can't be no. 1 without having a no. 1, or several high end picks. The Pens have done it twice in 20 years, bottom out and get Lemeiux and Jager, that championship team wins, then it runs it course and they bottom out again and get Crosby and Malkin. Repeat results.
    Flames continually end up finishing either just out or out of the playoffs, hence they always draft 14 to 19, do that year after year and guess what happens after 10 years? That's where they end up. The Flames are hopefully going to break that cycle this year. Flub Flames Flub…

  4. Don’t go throwing your jersey on the ice, or boo the fan. Be like me as a St. Louis Rams fan from 2007-2016 and just run a high bar tab of frustration beers.

  5. All those who want the team to become a bunch of losers for next two year, be happy, and after they are still crap in five years you will be thrilled and when we bypass Buffalo & SJ for being abysmal, I am sure you folks will be ecstatic. Just don't jump on the internet whining about how bad things are.

  6. I understand that the flames are going to be bad, not mad about that. But omfg, can there be a rule that teams that get first overall cannot get top 5 in the next 5 drafts. Really getting sick of sharks and Blackhawks tanking year after year and getting 1st overall or really high draft picks

  7. I don't think many flames fans are waiting for this too get better at this point though. What would we even be waiting for? the chase back to 500 and missing the playoffs by 2 points? If it's that, we don't want it.

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