UPDATE ON TONY VITELLO DECISION: 72 Hours are UP | Next step for the Giants

UPDATE ON TONY VITELLO DECISION: 72 Hours are UP | Next step for the Giants

The latest and greatest on the Giants trying to hire Tony Vitello. All of the updates, the newest news that we have coming right up on Locked on Giants. You are Locked on Giants, your daily San Francisco Giants podcast, part of the Locked On Network. Your team every day. Hello and welcome to Lockdown Giants, part of the Lockdown Podcast Network, where it’s your team every single day. My name is Alan Sas. On the show, we provide daily episodes Monday through Friday talking about the San Francisco Giants in a way that combines passion, analytics with the eye test, and a little bit of fun. I’m from the Bay Area, but I live in Sacramento now, and I host a show at Sacktown Sports 11:40, the Allen Styles Show, 10 a.m. 2 p.m. Be sure to check that out, as well as MCing Sacramento Rivercats games. All in all, I’m lucky enough to cover a team that I’ve been a fan of all my life. Today we are talking about uh Tony Vital, what the holdup is, and all of the rumors that have been spread. I’m going to be honest with you, and today’s episode is brought to you by Game Time. Download the Game Time app, create an account, and use code locked on MLB for $20 off your first purchase. So, a lot of people have been hitting me up trying to figure out uh if there was a reason I was a little bit late to do the show today. I had people hitting me up on social media. Be sure to follow me at the_styles files. Styles with an I. It’s nothing crazy like that. To be honest with you though, I did think that the news would have broke by now. I did think that which is why I wanted to wait to do the show because I didn’t want to do a morning show and I put it out and right after that the news breaks. So now my show is completely useless. So I’ve waited till 4:15. There are still no updates on what’s going on with Tony Bello besides just I’m I don’t know if it should be called Vital Gate or whatever the case is, but I have never been a part of anything like this. And this show is going to be a little bit different than others. By the way, you have uh the Angels hiring Kurt Suzuki. So that’s a name off the board who did interview with the Giants. But this is going to be a different show. I’m going to be on social media. I’m going to be on X because I do think that something could break and I want to continue to give you updates. There’s been so much going on. So today, and by the way, Jeff Pass in Yeah, he told us about Kurt Suzuki and everybody was just responding saying, “Where is the Vital news? I don’t know what’s real right now.” Can I just say that and be completely honest with you? I don’t know what’s real with you. We’re also going to bring up the pros and cons if the Giants do go in this direction. And if they don’t get Tony Vitello, where do they go from here? That’d be two candidates now that would have essentially told the Giants no. So, I’ve never been a part of anything like this. We have people from Tennessee making fun of the Bay Area. We have people from Tennessee. I’ve seen fake accounts who they have created accounts as Giants fans. SF Giants fan one, two, three saying, “We don’t want Tony Vitello. He’s a bum. He should stay in Tennessee.” And they’re clearly fake. Clearly, these are Tennessee fans having some fun, trying to make it seem like Giants fans don’t want Tony Bell. Now, I know there are some people out there that don’t want Tony Bell, but these fans have completely lost it. I have never seen anything like this. And I get it when you’re Tennessee and every single season it seems like and I’m I’m a guy I’ve been a fan of Tennessee for absolutely no reason. I’ve never been to Tennessee. I’ve have no connection to the university, but I like the color orange and I’ve always kind of followed them. I’ve always picked them in the NCAA March Madness and they let me down, right? And in in football I’m always kind of uh pulling for them and then they lose to Alabama just like they did this past weekend. that I’ve always kind of not a crazy fan anything like that. I don’t have any Tennessee gear, but when I watch them and I don’t have a rooting interest, I’m always rooting for Tennessee. And that goes to baseball, the way they play the game, Tony Velo. Little did I know that my uh joy of watching Tennessee and my little crush on Tennessee, if you will, would collide worlds uh with the San Francisco Giants because this has been insane, man. And you know, some of this stuff has gone out of bounds, but that’s what fans do. Uh, and I I just want to tell everybody to protect their peace out there in a lot of these conversations and a lot of these back and forth. You don’t know these people. You don’t owe these people anything. And at the end of the day, it’s really not that serious. So, keep things above board if you can. But, this is insane. So, as far as Vital Gate goes, woke up this morning and obviously they’re ahead of us. I’m out here on the West Coast. Tony Vitello was spotted. This is from San uh Rothman. Okay. Tony Vitello was spotted at Lindsay Nelson Stadium. They had a scrimmage today. All right. And he’s literally just standing there and people are saying, “Does he look emotional? Does he look like he just said something?” There’s another clip where he they’re all walking and that was about two two maybe even three hours ago now. There’s another clip where they’re all walking uh off of the off the field, right? Like everything is everything is done, you know, for the day. So, my thought process was, “Okay, cool. We’re going to hear something on Tony Vitello pretty soon. He’s going to talk with his with his team and here we go. We heard Kurt Suzuki. Now, what else is going on?” And we have heard nothing. Okay. And this is again, these are just a bunch of people out there in Tennessee from Camille Gear. Here’s how Tony Vital left Tennessee scrimmage. Love y’all. And gave a thumbs up at the end. That was an hour ago. So now people are looking into that. He’s throwing up the peace sign. I don’t know, man. This is I’ve never seen anything like this. And I know that we are going to discuss some of the pros and cons as to hiring Tony Vitello, but leave it to the Giants and leave it to Buster Posey to just do something. This is what happens when you I guess try something new and try to do things a different way or this is just what happens when you try to hire somebody that already has a contract because that’s the other part of this. But, uh, you know, I I’m continuing to refresh this thing to see if, uh, anything comes up as far as him being hired, but I don’t know. I mean, we’re hitting the evening time for the, uh, for the volunteers out there in Tennessee. I don’t know what’s going to happen. And if you remember what I said yesterday, I continue to tell you, if it doesn’t happen today, that’s when I would get a little bit worried. This ain’t about this cannot be about money because the Giants, if they really want him, they should be throwing him that money. Maybe they don’t want to throw him that type of money, but okay. Well, then don’t try to hire people that already have jobs. That’s the other part of this. So, uh, we will keep you up to date. Let’s get to some of the pros and cons on the other side and how everyone’s feeling. I appreciate all the comments as always. Let’s get to that right after uh this quick one as we continue to discuss Tony Vitello, the possible or probable uh next manager for the Giants. Don’t move. More locked on Giants coming up. The NFL season is here and FanDuel has an offer you don’t want to miss. Right now, new customers can bet just $5 and get $300 in bonus bets if you win. That’s right. 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You know, it’s interesting because it could come off as a negative, right? The the situation the Giants find them in. But I think very similar to let’s take the New York Knicks for example. The New York Knicks, they wanted a coach because they’re the Knicks and they think that they deserve it. The the Knicks wanted a coach that already had a job. So, the Knicks asked about four or five different NBA teams, hey, can we interview your coach and they all declined. They all said no. They ended up getting Mike Brown. So, you know, a guy who’s been to an NBA Finals, a guy who’s been around, he’s been in the playoffs, he’s coached LeBron, and he didn’t have a job, right? had he had been let go from the Kings out here in Sacramento. That shouldn’t look like the Kings or excuse me, the Knicks don’t have a desirable job. They went for specific people and weren’t able to get those specific people. So then they got the best on the list that was currently out of a gig, which was Mike Brown. That’s how I’m kind of looking at this Giants thing. There’s some people out there that says, “Hey, if Tony Vitello says no, is this a bad look on the San Francisco Giants because they couldn’t convince him to to stay, right? They could not convince him or I guess to leave. And I don’t think that’s the case simply because it was going to be really hard to convince him to leave anyway.” And I’ve been telling you all this from the beginning because I know how much Tennessee fans love Tony Bell. They never win national championships. You see them go. Auburn was able to sneak one with Cam Newton. You see, uh, obviously Alabama always has them. Georgia got one. We’ve seen this before. They have somebody that has turned their program, which was a bit of a disaster. Okay. Turn their program into a juggernaut. An absolute juggernaut. So obviously this is something and someone that they care about deeply. So and with that being said, he knows that and it’s not going to be easy for him to leave that situation. So you have two guys, one guy who was dealing with a a a family situation that was interested but ultimately said it’s better, you know, he’s not he’s not turning it down and taking the Padres’s job. At least not yet, Nick Hunley. and I don’t think he’s going to. But you have two situations where you have Nick Hunley who didn’t really want to leave his family and Buster tried to convince him. Then next you would have of course Tony Vitello and what he brings to the table and how much of a really really good situation he has in Tennessee. I know that South the South got barbecue and a bunch of different food down there. Tony Vital does not pay for food. He doesn’t pay for food. He doesn’t pay for beverages. He doesn’t pay for anything down there. And the I I saw something on foul territory about the player control and Susan Celesteer was on about the player control and just the control of the organization. You have uh rookie ball, high A, low A, single A, double A, triple A, all these different levels. You just don’t have the same level of control. And I get it. The coaches aren’t completely in the weeds the head coaches are. compared to being a manager in Major League Baseball, you definitely are in the weeds and you know everybody’s name and you have control. Look, the portal is the portal, but you’re not getting a call from a a GM saying, “Hey, at least I don’t think you are. Hey, we’re moving off of this this outfielder at the end of the year or this outfielder is going to go into the portal or this is how much money we I the money thing is not really on on the manager. more so on Buster, but it’s just a level of control that you’re used to that he would be giving up. So, that is part of it, too. It’s a complete lifestyle flip. Like I said, I never been to Tennessee, but I know it’s not like California. I know it’s not like the Bay Area. So, this is a complete complete 180 from what Tony Vitell has been doing. And we talked about it yesterday. Okay, I’m not saying there’s cold feet involved, but there’s probably some really really thinking through this thing involved. And again, when you are one of the highest paid college coaches, it’s not as if, you know, moneywise, you got to get bought out of your contract if they got to buy you out of the contract. I don’t know that you’re getting completely blown out of the water. You’re not making $100,000 with Tennessee and now you’re about to make 5 million. Now, it’s not my money and I’m a pocket watching and I would never turn down extra $2 million, whatever the case is. But he is probably looking at all of this. So, it’s not surprising to me that we’re still here. It’s surprising to me that if he was going to take it, we haven’t heard anything. It’s surprising that we haven’t heard anything at all. Okay. We haven’t heard anything at all and it’s a little bit too quiet. I’m looking at all this and you know th again this is from V scoops 18,000 followers your source for Tennessee volunteer news Tony Vitello told the baseball team after the scrimmage that he has not made a decision yet and does not know what he’s going to do that’s from uh Eric Kaine okay via via V scoops and and by the way my my algorithm is going to get destroyed with a bunch of Tennessee C stuff due to this and I’m double checking here. Okay, so you have he added, thank you all. We got meetings Tony Vitello to the porches leaving the field. That was two hours ago. He added a love y’all. So he did say that I guess people showed up to the stadium and said we want Tony. He threw a baseball into the crowd. So, this stuff all happened and Eric Kane just posted something. Let’s see here. Eric Kane just posted something and of course he says Tuesday was interesting as a midweek fall scrimmage was wasn’t like the others and said fans poured onto the porches beyond the outfield wall in left and center field trying to show their support and appreciation for a skipper who could be on the move. But will Tony Vitella be on the move? That’s a multi-million dollar question. that still nobody has the answer to as of today. Sources told Vquest that Velo did meet with his team following the scrimmage, but that he remains undecided. So, as of 5:30 p.m. Eastern, a decision still has not been made. So, that was two hours ago. Okay, that was 2 hours ago. A decision had not been made and we’re just going to wait and see. And I know this is a weird situation for Giants fans to be in because it just feels unnecessary a little bit. I wanted Tony Vital, but I didn’t know that it would come with this. We don’t know if this is about money. We don’t know if this is about cold feet. We’re just not sure. And I got some texts out. I’m waiting to hear back. Like I said, I heard something just about the conversations that are that are being had. The fact that he’s undecided is not good to me. It is not good. You’re not going, and I’m not gonna throw any other teams under the bus, but you’re not going to the Rockies. I guess I just did. You’re not going to the Rockies, right? You’re not going to the Marlins. You’re going to the San Francisco Giants. So, these are two guys now that Buster, and this is what happens when you take big swings, these are two guys now that Buster Posey has approached, right? And they’ve had to think about it. One guy pulled out and said, “No, Nick Hunley.” the other guy is still mulling it over or there’s still conversations about a contract. Look, maybe this is on the Tennessee front. Maybe this is figuring out the buyout. Maybe that’s part of this. I don’t know. Maybe it’s not about cold feet, but uh you know, shout out to Tennessee, Shout out to the Tennessee fans for showing out and saying, “Hey, we’re not going to go quietly. We we love our guy.” Good on them. Good on them because I don’t know if anybody saw this coming and I’m just getting bits and pieces here more of the article. In an era of college baseball when there’s so much change uh happening all at once, Tennessee fans should appreciate the consistency of Tony Vitello and his staff when adding impact transfers to the roster each and every season. This past summer uh was no different. The staff brought in nine transfers who are making their presence. anytime you go through a season or experience where something is missing, blah blah blah blah blah. So, yeah, th this is the the newest update on everything. We’re just going to wait and see. And who, you know, all I’m reaching out to all the different contacts that everybody has in Tennessee. Like I said, I never been out there, but we are working through and I’m and I’m talking to some people now. Obviously, that’s from Eric Kaine, by the way. It’s from on three sports. It there is a payw wall. I just opened it up. There is a payw wall. Uh so you’ll you’ll maybe have to you’ll maybe have to wait on that and we’ll see. And and actually Eric Kane’s locked on ball. So I’m going to see if I can have a conversation uh with Eric and and get something out here either via a short or any other capacity and we’ll we’ll see what we can do. All right, one more segment with you. Let’s talk about the pros and cons of hiring somebody like Tony Vitello if it ever happens. More Locked on Giants coming up. There’s nothing like catching a baseball game live. The energy, the crowd, the chance to see your team in person, but actually getting tickets, that’s the tough part. Cues, login screen, surprise fees, it takes all the fun out of it. 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I’m sure he’s got a lot of DMs to sift through and I’m going to try to get him on the show tomorrow as well. Let’s see if we can pull that off. But yeah, the the pros and cons as far as and I’ll check back in with Eric before I close this out to see if he responds. But the pros and cons to me, the pros, fresh look, right? Fresh thought process on everything. And it is basically a way for Buster to put his flag in the ground and say, “We’re here. We’re not afraid of you Dodgers Smurfs. We’re not and and look, go Canada. Go Toronto Blue Jays. I’m sorry. I’m rooting for the Blue Jays.” I’m going to tell you that right now. But anyway, we’re not afraid of you Dodgers. We’re not afraid of you Padres’s. We’re not afraid of uh any of you in the National League, right? We’re tired of playing second fiddle or third fiddle cuz we’re not even making the playoffs and we’re going to see what we can do. We also know that bringing in a college guy, this could replicate uh not the college space because obviously it’s different, but we are going to take some things from the college space. To me, we’ve seen this happen in the NFL a lot where you bring in a college coach and honestly and in the NBA it either works or it normally goes terribly because these are grown men. But when it works, you get somebody to buy in. And you know, I I look at what Pete Carroll earlier on or Jim Harbaugh who’s bounced back and forth from the NFL college. It has worked before, but there’s also been the Chip Kelly’s and some bad some bad situations. So, you’re you’re building an identity, which I don’t think the Giants have right now. We just know that they want to continue to uh they want to continue to pitch well, okay, and play defense. That’s all we know about the Giants. We don’t know anything else about the Giants about who they want to be. They don’t steal bases, right? Putting the ball in play. Some of them are swinging for the fences. Some of them, you know, are are are trying to draw walks. We don’t know who they are. And adding somebody like Tony Battel would say, “Hey, this is who you are. this is who you are now and we’re gonna pitch. We’re gonna defend. When a a a pitcher makes a mistake, we’re gonna we’re gonna get some juice behind it. We’re going to take risks on the base paths. We’re going to take risks if it’s a 2- 0 count, if it’s a 2-1 count, if it’s a 3-1 count. That’s who we are. It should be very clear, there is a Giants brand of baseball. There was a Giants brand of baseball when they won the three championships. It was torture. It was timely hitting. It was good defense. and it was have a ridiculous pitching staff. Now you got Logan Webb, what’s left of Robbie Ray, no disrespect, Landon RP, who’s still a young guy hitting wise. You got you’re paying Chapman big money. That’s fine. But, you know, he he’s your 67 hitter. You got a center fielder that doesn’t steal bags. And I’m not saying that Tony Vitello can come in and fix all of that. But one thing that I have read and heard about Tony Velo is he is an outstanding assessor of talent. So he would know, hey, we could use somebody else this way or we could use the uh we could use the lineup uh that way. Something different that we’ve been seeing. He could maybe unlock a Jean Julie. We know he could probably unlock a Drew Gilbert. And you know that’s probably good morning, good afternoon. It’s probably good morning, good afternoon for Luis Moss already. But you bring in Tony Bello and Luis Mtos is done. I mean, that goes without saying. So, you’re gonna give that nod to Drew Gilbert. And here’s the other thing. I know I’m talking about the pros right now, so we can just switch on over. Look, man, this isn’t college, right? If Drew Gilbert doesn’t figure it out, Tony Vital, you’re gonna I mean, it wouldn’t be your call. You’re You could walk in one day and Drew Gilbert’s gone, right? Is he Is he ready for that? Is he prepared for that? There’s no there’s no love lost when it comes to Major League Baseball and when it comes to pro sports in general. People are trying to save their jobs. People are trying to keep their jobs. People are trying to make money. So that is here we go and not to scare anybody but this is from again on three is all over this. So, uh, Pete Nikos, he says Tennessee’s Tony Vitello will make a decision on the San Francisco Giants job in the next 24 to 72 hours. That was October 18th. Uh, Pete now says the 72hour window has passed. It’s still no decision. According to a source close to the situation, uh, Tony Vitello told his team he has yet to decide. This is not good. Okay, this is not good. So, uh, rumors, although rumors of Tennessee head coach Tony Vitello’s departure for the Giants have been floating around in the past couple days, he was present at the scrimmage. Uh, obviously he’s already saying what we already know. Vitello would not be the first uh to make it. Okay. Uh, he would be the first Vitella who made two stops prior to Vitello’s arrival. All right. So, this is saying nothing. Okay. All it says is he was at the scrimmage and all it’s also saying is that the 72hour window has passed. I’m going to tell y’all right now this does not look good. This does not look good for the Giants. You are the San Francisco Giants. Enough said. If you don’t want to uh be here and if that’s not enough, then I don’t know how mulling it over for 72 hours uh will make that decision any easier. I I I don’t know that. And I’m double checking right now to be honest with you. This is from Sportska because look, this is, you know, I think this is important. I’m just trying to figure out he doesn’t have kids. I think that’s I think that’s a big deal. He is not married either. Okay. And this was back in June, so I don’t know. This was June 2024. But it’s the most recent thing is he does not have kids. He does not have Yeah. Then here’s the overview. No kids, no wife. So, the only reason I’m bringing that up is because when it comes to Nick Hunley, that was a big thing, right? that was, hey, you know, I got my family. Uh, we want to make sure we’re all good here. I’m not going to be able to do it. And he was just coming up from San Diego, but you know, you have Tony Vitello. So, this is purely about Tennessee. So, no kids, no wife, a chance to go to the big leagues. Literally, you’re not coaching a bottom feeder. You’re coaching the Giants. Okay. and you’ve had 72 hours and you haven’t made a decision yet. How in the world is this good for the Giants? I have absolutely no clue how this is good for the Giants. This is the second time now Buster will have to convince someone or he’s in the process of convincing someone. I don’t get it. I I mean, I do get it because this is what happens when you take swings, but I’m not sure how this is purely based on Tennessee. This is purely based on his love of Tennessee from the outside looking in. His love of Tennessee, his love of that fan base, his love for Rocky Top, purely based on that. So, with that being said, I don’t know how he wakes up tomorrow or in a couple hours and says, “Hey, I actually do want to leave because I feel like he would have done it already, but maybe I’m wrong.” We’ll see. Might have an emergency pod for you if it happens. Let’s hang on and and see what the deal is. If not, I will talk to you tomorrow. Thank you for listening to Locked on Giants. Be sure to follow me on social media at the stylesfiles styles with an i. Thank you for making lockdown giants your first listen every day. For your second listen, find the all night locked on MLB game night every game every night until the World Series champion is crowned. Get local analysis on a national scale. Find MLB game night on locked on MLB on YouTube or wherever you listen to podcast. We will talk to you tomorrow. Until then, peace.

Allen breaks down today’s events of Tony Vitello being with the team for the scrimmage but not making a decision even though the 72 hours are up. What the Giants should do if he says no, if it’s a bad look if he declines, and the pros and cons of hiring him.

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