The 2025 Seattle Mariners Season Ends in Extreme Anguish

The 2025 Seattle Mariners Season Ends in Extreme Anguish

The Mariners just suffered the worst loss, I think is safe to say, in franchise history. Potentially a franchise altering loss in game seven of the American League Championship Series. Joe and I are going to kind of just talk about game seven, what went wrong. We’re going to talk about the Dan Wilson move that everyone knows it should have been Andress Muno. We’re going to talk about that. We’re going to give you guys our thoughts on just how we’re feeling about the Mariners season as a whole. We’ll give you guys our FanDuel favorites and then we will talk about what’s next for this team and what’s it going to take for them to finally get over the hump. Thank you guys so much for watching episode 242 of the Hit It Here podcast, part of the Believe Network and presented by FanDuel. And this is the Mariners fan episode of the podcast. to everybody that is feeling what we’re feeling, to everybody that stuck it out for the entirety of this season because this was a this was a kind of an up and down season, but it ended up being a very very magical one. So, shout out to all of you guys. I know it sucks right now. It sucks for us, too. Uh, but one day at a time. Anyway, I’m here with Joe. Joe, I’m dead inside. So, yeah. I I think and this is not any discredit to anybody who’s feeling it super hard. I felt it really hard last night. Like I was very down and whatever. I woke up today, remembered that they lost. I was like, damn, that sucks. And then my day just kind of carried on like it was like the like it was like a hollow shell of itself. I don’t let myself get too high or too low on camera super often. I usually keep those things outside of this. Um, but yeah, dude, it’s this sucks. this like a a brutal loss and game seven was going about as well as you could have hoped I think from innings one through six where you get a a leadoff double from Julio, you get a base hit RBI from Josh Naylor like you’re off to a one- nothing lead. George Kirby doesn’t look super good in the first inning. Gets out of it with only one run allowed and then he kind of settled in. I mean, not even kind of, he settled in and that was the kind of start that you needed from George Kirby where it felt like the starters in this series were part of the demise. Like this season, this series could have been well over a lot faster if not for Bryce Miller in games one and five pretty much and I guess the offense in game two. But regardless, we’re talking about the starting pitching and George Kirby settled in nicely and Brian Woo coming in for relief for him. I think that went pretty well. Like not a lot of detractors in games in game seven. It’s legitimately one moment. Julio gives you a solo home run, take back the lead. Cal gives you an insurance run, a 3-1 lead there. Again, I didn’t get to watch this game because I was working, so I was just on game day. But a lot of the things felt like they were falling in the right direction. And then the the move that will be talked about for for years and years to come, more than likely. And also if if agree to disagree if you don’t think Dan Wilson has a a fault in that move and the Bazardo stranded raid is you know whatever like there are plenty of things to point to why Bazardo could have gotten out of that situation. It’s not that I did not have faith in Eduard Bazardo in that moment. It’s not that. It’s just that there’s a It felt like there was such a clear option and a path to take that was a lot safer. And I get that you sometimes have to play a little greedy in big moments. That to me did not feel like a moment where you needed to play greedy and try and get ahead of the curve at all. Like it just it felt as simple as go to your best available arm and let fate decide. If fate was always in favor of a George Springer three-run home run, so be it. I’m not a big religious person at all. I’m not super spiritual. I do think that there’s a bit of superstition going on in life. There was someone who I deem not very someone that doesn’t have very good karmic energy, right? They asked me while I was at work what the score of the game was. 30 seconds before it was four to three. I’m fully blaming it on that person in my heart of hearts. And maybe that’s why I don’t feel as like I’m down. I’m sad. I’ve seen clips of like TJ like being like very like just despondent and I you know you had to give the you googly over on the the live stream. I didn’t know you were such a good you Googleizer. So good good for you for you know going live for that and everything. I’m sure like Anders and Chris were feeling it on the locked on post cap. Like everyone in the community is feeling a variety of emotions largely sad and I feel almost like imposttor syndrome mey because I don’t think I’m as sad as everybody else. And I could be wrong and maybe I’m just compartmentalizing because I don’t think I feel as sad as you do which is like weird to say. because I should be. I absolutely should be. Let Let’s just talk about the game here for a second before we get into how I’m feeling because that’s a whole another can of worms. Um yeah, it was the most obvious choice in the world. And you know what Dan Wilson did? He does what he always does and he got cute with it. And you know, play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Dan, you’re an idiot. Plain and simple. You do not go to Bazardo in that situation. You are facing the top of the order. you go to Andre Munoz. It is black and white. It’s there’s no gray area. It is black and white. And if George Springer hits a three-run home run, at least you knew your best arm. You You gave yourself the best chance to win. If if Springer, you know, the you know, similar to who was it? Gary Carter or Joe Carter. Joe Carter. Who Who was it? Joe Carter with the three-run home run in whatever year that was. It was fate. It was two runners on in the seventh inning. Same exact thing. And you know, if that’s the case, at least you gave your team the best chance to win instead. And again, this is no no slouch on Bazardo. He threw that same pitch to George Springer the day before or something like that. Got him to ground out. Mhm. This is 100% on Dan for putting Edward Bazardo in an awful, awful situation. You need a strikeout. You need a strikeout in that situation. and you go to a guy who doesn’t really strike out a lot of right-handed hitters, it doesn’t make sense. It makes literally zero sense. And Dan after the game stood by that move, I just want Dan Wilson to take some accountability for for this move. Everybody in the ballpark knew it was the wrong move. Everybody, the announcers were saying it, I was saying it. Even my dad was saying it. Why do you not go to Muno, dude? I just I was in awe. And so when that home run was hit, I was sitting on the couch. I watched him hit it like make contact, didn’t say a word, just watched it go out and just stared at the TV. Just numb because it’s like that is just so exactly how this would have to go. Listen, should the offense have maybe done more in this game? Absolutely. Can the Mariners win a 3-1 ball game? Absolutely. when you when when you manage it right. Dan Wilson did not manage this game right, plain and simple. Now, there are plenty of other reasons why the Mariners are not going to LA right now. Obviously, you know, offense in some of the games earlier in the series, there’s plenty of other reasons, but in this game, in game seven, it is on Dan Wilson, plain and simple. And I need to see some accountability out of him. And I I I don’t blame people that disagree because again, it’s a lot it’s a lot more there’s a lot more to it than just it’s Dan’s fault. But that moment that that specific moment, the biggest moment in the season and he pulled the wrong string, plain and simple. Listen, if I could delete Dan’s choice, if I could delete this this this loss, I would. But first, a word from our sponsor. Delete Me. Delete Me makes it easy, quick, and safe to remove your personal data online at a time when surveillance and data breaches are common enough to make everyone vulnerable. The New York Times wire cutter has named Delete Meir their top pick for data removal services. And as someone with an active online presence, privacy is very important to me. 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And it it goes so much deeper than, oh, that was a bad loss. With all of the context that goes along with this loss and the reason it hurts so bad, can you name everything that’s happened in the last month? It has been an incredible month and Mariners fans have been the the amount of moments the Mariners have had over the past month. And for it to all end like that, it just it doesn’t feel real. It feels like a bad dream. This was supposed to be the team of destiny. Plain and simple. You you look back. I have a list here. A list. A list. Um, a list of all the moments I’ll miss. Um, so a list of some of the moments. Roac’s catch in Houston. The sweep of Houston. Naylor’s double to clinch the playoffs. Cal’s 60 homer home run. 60th home run to clinch the division. You then clinched a buy. Julio then went 3030. You got your first playoff win since 2001. You had the dump it here guy. Hell yeah. Yeah. You had Jorge Palano’s walk-off. You had Gino’s grand slam first ever game seven and Cal officially having more home runs of over a season and postseason than Aaron Judge. Yeah. for you were eight outs away from going to your first ever World Series and you blew it. It sucks. It absolutely sucks. I don’t Did you watch any of the postgame interviews? Um like in the clubhouse? I watched Dan talk about like the the defending the Bazardo choice and everything like that. Um, seeing Cal all teeyed and bloodshot and calling it a failure is brutal. Uh, the interview of Woo with Julio screaming just an It sounded like a scene out of Jurassic Park. Like it literally sounded like the T-Rex just like going crazy. Everyone’s just Yeah. Like everyone is just dejected and distraught. just dealing with all that turmoil being eight outs away, right? It’s complete emotional whiplash from where you were, you know, for the say like two like hour and 45 minutes of the beginning of that game to the last 30. Like you talked about like moments of destiny and how quick everything happened is like and the the nightmare kind of like the dream situation. There was no time to process because it was the swing of a bat. It was literally one thing that completely flipped every ounce of energy and it all came crashing over as like this wave of negative energy because of where they find themselves now which is eliminated, sent home and not going to the World Series. I I sat there. So, I posted a the the clip from Kenobi where Anakin is gone. I am what remains. I posted that on TikTok talking about like like those friends and family. So, when cano like Obi-Wan goes like Anakin and it’s like friends and family checking on in on me for after game seven and then it was like me prepping for the 2026 season is what I put for Anakin’s side. I literally like watching I the thing I watched the most from this game is the clip of Springer hitting the home run in some weird like I like some sort of mental whatever. I just needed to see it happen. I probably watched it 15 times. It just sat replaying over and over again like a massochist. I felt like watching my team come up short and I don’t know why that helped me process maybe just seeing it happen over and over again just like helped me process the what what had happened because it again it didn’t feel real sometimes it still doesn’t I just woke up today and everything was normal quotes are normal but yeah I I totally get the going through the motions and not wanting to talk about it. The last thing I wanted to do today was Joe, did you see the mayor’s loss? Yeah, I did. Obvious like guys, obviously don’t talk about it. It’s like I don’t know. It’s like it’s insane to me. And again, no co co-workers, you know, people at work, whatever, doesn’t matter. Like it’s just they’re they’re just having social conversations. sometimes that the the weight of a moment is not widely understood of how deeply rooted we are in the Seattle Mariners. And I, you know, I felt chest pain. I don’t often feel chest pain in general. Can’t relate. Yeah, can’t relate. And like I and I knew it was just like the anguish from that moment. I knew that just a just a pit in your stomach, man. I mean, it’s that moment. It is the most devastating loss in Mariners history. There’s no two ways around that. And it had the chance to be the greatest win in Mariners history because it would have sent them to the World Series for the first time. One swing changed it. And of course, of course, it’s George Springer, who again, people booed when when he got hit in the knee. And people like, “Oh, it was the Blue Jays fans booing.” Woo! Not I mean, yeah, probably some of it. Yeah. Not all of it. Not all of it. And you know, and then all of a sudden now the Blue Jays fans have a have have it out for Mariners fans. Oh, you booed blah blah. It’s like the real fans didn’t boo him. Mhm. The real fans that actually understand baseball didn’t boo him. And if they did, they’re not real baseball fans. Yes, I am telling you how to fan. Don’t boo someone when they’re injured. Suck it. Um, but for it to be George Springer, the guy that tormented you when he was with the Astros, cheater. Um, just in case anyone forgot, to then have that moment in game four, whatever, five, whatever it was when he got hit in the knee. And then to have that moment, I mean, first of all, good for him. Like, great for him. That’s awesome for him, but it just it just felt like that’s the way it had to go. And it it sucks, man. And the way all the players were feeling, I mean, for for Cal to say that the season was a failure. I mean, if the ultimate goal is obviously to win the World Series. Mhm. So, yeah, I it’s a it’s a failure in that regard, but this was still one of the greatest Mariners seasons of all time, if not the greatest, like like from beginning to end, if not the greatest, one of the greatest. And sure, some of the moments that we have seen over the past month are going to be diminished a little bit because you didn’t get the job done. Gino’s home run. I still put it as a top three like Mariners hit throughout history, but it feels because of because of the moment because it was, you know, a game five, not an elimination game. Like, you know, it just some of some of the weight kind of feels like it comes off of that game now and that hit and it just sucks, man. And the hardest part is we have to now wait five months for for anything, you know, for for the hard part for me is knowing what this team did last off season, knowing that we now have to watch this upcoming off season and we don’t know what it’s going to look like. There are so many variables and we’ll get into that in just a second. But first, here’s Joe to give you our FanDuel favorites. Thank you again to FanDuel for being the sponsor for the Hit It Here podcast. Although the Mariners season is officially over now, there is still one thing that stands over on the FanDuel sports book for the MLB side. It’s Cal Raleigh for the American League MVP. The one Mariners related bet that you could still take. He currently sits at plus 330. though he is not a FanDuel favorite, but he would be my favorite and it would be a favorite thing of mine if he were to win the MVP to maybe soften the blow of how the Mariners season ended. Just a reminder to gamble responsibly and if you are a new member to the FanDuel sports book, new members can win up to $300 in bonus bets if you win on any bet of $5 or more. So, if you are new, you can win up to $300 in bonus bets again if you win. You can cook up your own parlay. You can do a same game parlay that FanDuel has built in for you. The NBA is back. NFL is right in the middle of the season. So, there’s plenty of fun to be had over on the FanDuel sports book. Remember to gamble responsibly. Thanks again to FanDuel for sponsoring the Hit It Here podcast. It took the Mariners until what, February to sign Donovan Solano or something like that. It was a long It was a long off seasonason. It was bad. It was it was a a brutal offseason compared to one of the worst what a what a lot of other teams seem to operate in or at least the type of team the Mariners want to be in terms of competitive windows. I hope that the Mariners payroll is around 180 to 190 million next year. Oh, that would be nice. That’s what it should be. That would be awesome. After a year like this, that’s what it should you like this feels like especially if a lockout is looming in 2027, go win it in 2026 I feel like is a pretty I mean you know all things considered with who’s probably coming out of the National League at that from that point of view but being able to recognize how important postseason baseball was to the city of Seattle and to this organization to this team not investing in it after this would be downright All right. Disrespectful and a slap to the face. And of course, it takes two to tango. You can offer Josh another 30 million. He might turn it down to go play somewhere else. I doubt it. Obviously, that’s an exaggeration. But again, we’ll talk plenty about that the remainder of this off season, but what like you brought up a really good point there and I want I want to address it. Do it. We’re just Frankensteining this. We’re Frankensteining it. We have to. We don’t have a choice. Yeah. This is the This is the first podcast we’ve really done where we don’t have games. We don’t have any talk about Yeah. But you mentioned go win it in 2026. In the history of this franchise, this team has only gone to back-to-back playoff appearances once in 2000 and 2001. They went in 95, missed in 96. They went in 22, they missed in 23. Something has to change. Something has to change. You have to unfortunately and it sucks because this year was so awesome. This is a fantastic year for the Mariners. The same old Mariners stigma is still there because they choked. Because they choked. Don’t give me that. It sucks. And obviously it’s not the same as it, you know, has been in the past. They made it further, but unfortunately that stigma still still exists because they choked. They were up two games to none. Yes. And they choked. They became part of the They allowed the Blue Jays to become part of like a 12% group now where teams that went down 20 ended up winning the championship series. Um, Cole Young Max on over on Twitter posted 2003 Red Sox won the ALDS in five games with two extra innings games, then lost ALCS game seven on a heartbreaking homer to extend their drought. The 03 Red Sox, you know what they did next year? They won. They won the whole thing. 2020 Braves lost NLCS game seven on a seventh inning go-ahead home run after having a two-run lead and starting 2 in the series. What did they do in 2021? They won. They won it all. Yeah. Correct. So 2026, baby. I’m drinking the copium. I’m drinking the Kool-Aid. Listen, this is a situation with this team where it truly does feel like this is the beginning. Their window isn’t gone. Everybody, for the most part, everyone’s coming back next year. And I mean, if Gino doesn’t come back, like I mean, I love the guy. I do. I don’t necessarily think he makes sense for this roster next year. I love AU Suarez. And if they were to bring him back for cheap and make him like a you know, third base DH type player, I’m okay with that. With Josh Naylor though, you have to resign Josh Naylor. You have to. If you do not resign Josh Naylor, you better go get Pete Alonzo. And if you don’t get either of them, I’m sorry, but that’s a failed off seasonason. Plain and simple. That and that is immediately a failed offseason unless you trade for like Freddy Freeman or something like that. You know what I mean? Like or Matt Olsen or something. There’s there are probably other first baseman that might be more realistic in terms of that makes sense. Yeah, that might that might or Vlatty. Okay. Name the three most untouchable first baseman in the entire league probably. But yeah, I get what you’re saying. You need to fill that hole at first base. If you don’t do it with Naylor, you do it with Alonzo. If you don’t do it with Alonzo, you better find at least a top 10ish first baseman to replace whatever like gap you’re missing in a first base that for a full 162 would have put up a 6.3 war in a Mariners’s uniform had Naylor been there the entire year. Yes, it is a failed offseason if you don’t do that. I think that there’s again there’s going to be a lot of moving parts where they decide to invest money. If they do, if they do decide to spend, they freaking better. Cuz if not, we we will we will give them hell. Yeah. Plain and simple. If if the Mariners have another dud of an offseason like they did last offseason, which keep in mind, we gave them a lot of crap for We were We were We were still pretty nice about it. I will burn bridges. I don’t care. Nobody in the organization. the content warning on ever talk to us again if they do not do what they need to do this off season. Now again I I I think you’re not going to get a 60 home run season out of Cal next year. No shot. But if you just get 30 like which Oh, if you just get 30 like that’s not a lot for a catcher. That would still be the most by a catcher in this season probably, right? Yep. Yeah. Yeah. And so it’s like, you know, you get a you get a cow comes back down to earth a little bit, whatever. Julio, I think I mean, he proves it every year, right? Like no matter what, the numbers are there at the end of the year. If he can just hold on for a full 162, the sky is the limit for Julio Rodriguez and we know that. And he looked great in the playoffs. He was awesome. And I think that that’s something you can look forward to. And then the pitching staff, like if they can all come back and be healthy, because that was that the the starting rotation was your frankly one of your biggest flaws this year. Which I don’t think anybody would have thought that going into 2025. This is supposed to be one of the best rotations in all of baseball. And really the only people that stayed healthy it was Luis Castillo obviously and then Brian Woo until you know the last like 15 days of the season. Those are the only two guys that stayed healthy. Everyone else was hurt. We had Luis F. Castillo starting games. You had, you know, like it just I don’t and it’s I could be very wrong. And maybe they have some of those guys have to get surgeries this off seasonason like and that extends their timetable. I don’t know. But going into next year, if you can I don’t want to say run it back because you can’t run back a 60 home run season. Mm- But I also don’t think you can get as unlucky on the pitching side of things injury-wise. Now maybe you you know and you you lost Ro for most of the year. Not that he was a really that big of a factor when he came back other than defensively, but I don’t know. Can we expect Dom Kenzone to be better next year? Is Dom Canzone on this team next year? No, because Kyle Tucker’s in right field. But like, hey, Lyall, it’s it’s a situation where if you can resign Josh Naylor, you have Colt Emerson coming up next year at some point. You probably have Kate Anderson coming up at some point. Daranchelo Sanja at some point potentially like Laz Montes at some point. There are guys coming on the offensive side of things where if the Mariners can just if they’re okay with going Ben Williamson at third base for the year at least to start until Colt’s ready and put him over there at third. If they want to move JP to second and put Colt at shortstop, I’m all for JP can’t make a throw across the diamond. He can’t. His arm his arm is shot. And there there’s just there’s so many ways this off seasonason could go. And I don’t see a scenario where we look back on the 2025 2026 offseason to say, “Yeah, that’s another clunker two years in a row.” I just don’t see a scenario where that happens. It’s less of you can’t see it, more of at least from my perspective, it absolutely can’t happen. You And again, dunk on us. Hi Palano was a good bring back. Awesome. Great. Great. Like that is the redeeming quality of last off season and frankly you got lucky I think that it worked out the way that it did because 2020 2024 Jorge Palano was not someone that you probably should have brought back to your team. But thankfully the surgery and the healing process of that knee did make a world of difference for him. I I don’t know if I agree with the same old Mariners sentiment. I think this is a much different scenario. Like yes, you you you choked, you blew it at the end, but I don’t think it’s the same for me. And again, people can think differently. That’s whatever. Like that’s the nature of being a human being. But the group and like you said, this feels like a beginning, not an end one because there wasn’t really like a a beginning for this. Anyways, if you want to count 2022, but I feel like this is a more like 2021. 2022 was the prologue. This was chapter one, I think. Or, you know, this could be chapter five and maybe chapters 1 through 4 were 23 and 24, right? This feels like we could be and again baseball’s a weird sport. The a lot of people had the Blue Jays in the seller of the American League East at the beginning of the year and look where they are now. A so many people are saying that they need to blow it up, trade Bob Bashette before obviously they extended Vlatty. There was all that conversation last year like and it worked out for him. Not to say that the Mars and the Blue Jays are in similar boats by any means as far as roster construction is concerned and spending etc. Whatever it they’re very different scenarios, but the Mariners to me like this this team isn’t going to go anywhere, right? I think that they will be back in AL West champ form in 2026. I do fully believe that. I think that they have a chance to run back-to-back division titles. Of course, a lot depends on the offseason. A lot depends on how things go and everything that we’re saying is everything that you’re saying is absolutely right about regression and what that might look like. But this team was too special for it to be a one-hit wonder. Mhm. There’s too much talent on this roster for that to be the case. It has to be the start of a dynasty. That’s what we’ve been promised. We have been promised that once everything starts to click and you know what what Jerry doto and all them pitched John Stanton and even us we have the talent it’s coming we are going to have the money when we need it it’s coming to fruition this year it did they they went out and added some payroll at the trade deadline it came to fruition they have what four or five key free agents you know and Naylor Palanco more than likely Um, Gino Garver and Caleb Ferguson. Yeah, I I would like to have two of Gino, Polo, and Naylor back, but if you only bring back Naylor, I understand. Yeah. Um, the core is still there for this team and, you know, you’re probably not going to have the Astros get as dinged up as they did this year, next year. But I think that the flaws with that team, they’re categorically there one way or another. and Framber Valdez will be gone. I I don’t think there’s any way that he is back with the Astros next year. Sure. Um but are you gonna see a team like the Rangers not be able to hit again? I doubt it. They’re too They’re too good of a team to not hit next year. Are you going to see the Angels spend a bunch of money for it to mean nothing? More than likely. That’s what they always do. Um, but there’s a chance they’re gonna they’re gonna have like their 10th manager in like 10 seasons or whatever it’s going to be with Kurt Suzuki. So, um, you know, the Athletics are going to get another year older and they’re going to be, you know, better than they were this year, than they were. Yep. Yeah. I think that they’re kind of getting to that point now. It’s not going to be easy. No one said it’s going to be easy. That that has been the motto for the past like two months. No one said it was going to be easy. And it it is very hard to build the dynasty. And frankly, you look back on it and what did the Astros do? They built a dynasty. They followed the blueprint, right? They tanked for a couple of years. They got some first round draft picks. All those draft picks hit and they became a dynasty. They have one legitimate World T World Series title to show for it. One. Is that a good thing? It like like what what is the goal? And the goal as of right now is just get to the World Series. Yeah. But the ultimate goal is to just is to win it all and put a a trophy on the mantle. So yeah, long off seasonason ahead of us. We’re gonna have a whole lot to talk about over the next couple of months, but we truly appreciate every single one of you guys for taking the time to listen to us this year. Um you know, leaving your comments, anybody who’s chatted with us in the streams or talked to us at the stadium. Uh it means a lot. Make sure you guys are subscribed. Like this video um for all the content that’s going to be coming this winter. We appreciate you guys watching episode 242 of the Hit It Here podcast presented by FanDuel. And go Mars.

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Well the 2025 Mariners Season is officially over and we need to share our final thoughts on the outcome of game 7 and how we are feeling presently. The 2026 offseason is going to be monumental in terms of the Mariners franchise so here is to hoping they actually go for it this year.

– Game 7 thoughts 1:10
– Emotional Whiplash 10:35
– Offseason Teaser 19:40

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