CARDINALS SQUAD SHOW: Cardinals FALL To Packers, Should Jacoby Brissett Be The NEW Starting QB?

CARDINALS SQUAD SHOW: Cardinals FALL To Packers, Should Jacoby Brissett Be The NEW Starting QB?

Welcome to the Cardinal Squad Show. My name is Benjamin Garcia, a credentialed Arizona sports media member. Do we have a fullblown quarterback controversy or should just Jacobe Brassette be the guy? Let’s discuss. J Douglas, former NFL offensive lineman. The Cardinals gave up a lot of sacks today. What was going on with the interior offensive line? Alex Nancy locked on Cardinals. Is this the beginning of the end for everything we see in front of our faces? Let’s get it. Rise up, Red Sea. It’s the Cardinals Squad. Everything Arizona Cardinals every week covering all the big hits and gamechanging plays from the Valley of the Sun. The way only the Locked on Podcast Network can. Gear up and squad up. The Cardinal Squad Show starts now. What is up? Welcome back into the Cardinal Squad Show. Wherever you guys may be listening, however you may be even watching this show, thank you so much for making this show a part of your day. Today’s episode is brought to you by the lovely folks over at Prize Picks. Download the Prize Picks app today and use code locked on NFL to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup. Well, I don’t think it’s it’s all a loss today, and we’ll talk about it why, but ultimately the Arizona Cardinals, uh, I think the statistic was, I have it right here, five straight losses of a total of 13 points. The Cardinals fall to the Green Bay Packers. Let’s get into some instant reactions. Mr. J Douglas, I’ll let you go first. Look, man. Um, yeah, it’s it’s hard to accept a moral win. I think, you know, if we had came out on top in terms of the Cardinals winning this game, the conversation would be a lot different. But, uh, this team is, I’m going just say it straight up, this team is much more competitive with Jacobe Brassette being the signal caller. Um, it’s apparent, it’s obvious. Uh, I know they came up short today, but we’re seeing a team that’s moving the ball. We’re seeing obviously, you know, we we’ll talk about the pro protection and things like that. We’re seeing a competitive team. Um, and and it’s only game two of Jacobe starting, but I feel like we’re, like you said, we’re in a quarterback controversy, and we would be uh it would not be smart to ignore that. Yeah. I mean, it’s we’re here again. You know, I think, you know, there I don’t there’s not a world where they actually do roll with Jacobe in week nine. Um, Jacob’s 0 and2. I think that’s the easiest way. Like, I don’t listen, listen, I’m not saying I agree with it. Um, first off, the offensive line needs to uh book a all weekend um spa package for Jacobe Brassette this week. Um cuz he got absolutely lit up. He had six sacks. Sacked six times. If that was Kyler Murray, that would have been 12. Like, this is the biggest thing for me. My two biggest takeaways from today. one, Kyler Murray would have maybe gotten goose egg against that Packers defense with the interior pressure. He can’t do it. He can’t He can’t do it. And that’s just something, you know, it’s stature. It’s whatever it is. Number two, they 100% made the right call by going forward on fourth and one. Okay. And they made the absolutely bonehead I’m in over my head call to push right into the interior defensive line of the Packers that’s been absolutely lambasting them all day. It is the dumbest play call you can make. I don’t care if they pooch punt it instead. Like, don’t go for it then. That is the only thing that’s been keeping the Cardinals from, you know, winning this game by double digits, surprisingly. And you go right into the mouth of the beasts with Bam Knight and me pushing Jacobe Brassette. Where’s Trey McBride? Where’s anybody that weighs anything that can actually help push Jacobe? That was the worst tush push in the history of it. And unfortunately that was the play call they came up with. You knew it was coming too, Clancy. Like it wasn’t disguised. It wasn’t like you kind of saw the Packers kind of run like a fake tush push uh where they kind of threw the the the uh not shovel pass, but whatever. Little toss pass over to the running back. It didn’t work out either, but it was at least a little bit more creative. Um I’ll be honest with you guys, like this one doesn’t sting that much because the season was very clearly about is Kyler Murray the guy? like is K are you are you going into next year with Kyler Murray? And I think from what you guys had said, I won’t add too much to it. It’s just like for the second straight week, it’s a trend. It’s no longer a fluke. We obviously were too hard on Drew Petting. And by we, I’ll just say myself. And the Cardinals have a full-blown quarterback controversy, which we can talk about in the next segment of like where should where are they at now? Should they start him? Should they not start him? We’ll talk about those reasonings for that later. But also like it’s two really good teams that the Cardinals went up against, one on the road, one at home, and you kind of feel like they probably should have won both games. And I don’t think you feel like that with Kyler, man. Jal, go for it. Listen, man. They gave both of these teams fits like like going into a game playing the Arizona Cardinals prior to Jacobe Brassette being at the helm. I don’t think that teams really respected the Cardinals. They have definitely earned the respect of the Colts and the Packers. Two teams that we’re talking about having uh you know playoff runs at this point or we expect them to be in the playoffs uh bar none. They have g they have took both of these teams to the brink. Yeah, we could say you know the Panthers but they were up though and they they allowed them back in. But this is different man. th this team, they’re playing harder. The defense has always played hard, but it’s just a matter of time before it clicks and you’re playing complimentary football and these close losses turn into wins. Like, I just don’t see how we can come off of a by-week and say, “All right, Kyler, you’re you’re back at it.” I think in terms of where the team is, it almost takes the momentum away. You know, you got to ride with Jacobe at this point. He’s listen 25 of 36, two touchdowns. Without the sacks, he may have thrown for 350 yards like and and three touchdowns. That’s just the honest truth about it. So, um obviously you got to address the the pocket, but I don’t know, man. I’m I’m really I don’t know, Clancy. I It’s It’s hard for me to say we’re gonna see Kyler in week nine. It’s really tough for me to say that. And unfortunately, usually what happens is the Cardinals make the wrong decision. It’s usually just what it is. You know, that’s kind of their that’s kind of their, you know, their chi, their uh their center, their metronome is making the wrong decision with things. And this is just going to be another one because I can tell you what, if Kyler Murray’s healthy, he’s starting. Like that’s it. And we’ll talk more about in the next segment, but like I want to get your thoughts on I’ve never seen the alter for Alton Will Hernandez get abused like this. Yeah. Like not even close. Evan Brown, he’s like people are finally starting to realize what I’ve been screaming from the mountain tops for three years. Ev Brown ain’t it. Isaia Adams ain’t it. Jonah Williams needs to be put on a milk carton. Like it’s got to be Coven Beach moving forward. If the car Cardinals want to salvage uh the quarterback’s health first off, and any sort of semblance of competitive football for the rest of the year. They got to figure it out. They decided to punt on the offensive line this offseason. Um I don’t know if it was bravado. I don’t know if it was, you know, Walter Nolan falling there at 16 and you know, maybe he’ll be great, but it ain’t good. It ain’t good, man. So talk about what you saw with that just in general terms. Yeah, listen, I mean obviously we know that Micah Parsons was responsible for three of those sacks. though. Um, Michael Parson’s had a a coming out party in terms of I don’t think that he’s had a three-game uh or three sack game since he’s played in the NFL. Rashawn Garry with the strip sack. Um, what I what I did see where they were putting, you know, their their ends on the interior and that’s a mismatch. I don’t care who you are. Um, it’s tough in terms of, you know, dropping back 37 times. That’s it’s tough on the offensive line, but it’s got to get cleaned up. Like like I can’t I won’t be the guy that sugarcoats the fact that they gave up six sacks and um I think we all suspected Micah Parsons was going to have a day but not a three sack type of day. But man, moving forward, I here’s my question. They gave up six today, right? Um, Jacobe can see down the field and he does a really good job of keeping his eyes down the field and and hanging in there. I don’t think I think that’s a nine sack type of game with Kyler uh in the back field. That’s not a knock on Kyler. I just think that he doesn’t do as good of a job of keeping his eyes downfield um in the face of pressure. So, uh, it’s like, you know, I hate to say the grass is greener, but, um, I do think it would have been a a nine sack type of game, uh, if Kyler was back there. Let me ask you this really quickly. How important is an offensive line coach? I was thinking, because it’s like, let me let me preface this for those people that don’t know. Clayton Adams, offensive line coach this past season, now the offensive coordinator with Dallas. They’re scoring 98 points a game. Justin Fry was the offensive coordinator or the offensive line coach at Ohio State. He won a championship and now is a firsttime NFL offensive line coach and the Cardinals have struggled not only in the run game but in pass pro also. Yeah. Yeah. I was thinking about that actually as I was watching the game. You you mentioned Clayton Adams like uh very well respected around the NFL in terms of the way he coaches and uh you rarely see a guy go from uh being an offensive line coach to now calling it, you know, for another team that’s doing really well. So, uh I think this is is it’s it’s bigger than what we we see from the outside. I think that um there may be some sort of jump. You know, we see all the time players have jumps in terms of going from college to the NFL. There’s also that for coaches because because of the dynamic and uh you know, in college you’re coaching. There may be one or two guys on the defense that you got to really kind of focus in on the NFL. It’s all the guys across the board. And so, um, I think there may be a learning curve for, uh, Coach Fry in terms of what he’s coaching. I really got to take a deep dive and look at the tape and see like where is this breaking down at. Is this a technique thing or is it a schematic thing? Cuz those are two different things in my eyes, you know? Yeah. I guess I would ask this at the at this point then. How much of this since we went to the offensive side of the ball do you like give a letter grade for the defense in this game? Like how much I know just know that there I just know that there has been some controversy with the defense whether it’s through social media people telling me privately like hey the defense isn’t doing their job. How much of it today do you put on the defensive side of the ball? We asking me or Clancy J for it. Open mic. I mean, look, the defense, if you just look at the numbers, right? Third down, the Packers were three three for 10. That I mean, they held uh Justin Fields, I mean, excuse me, not Justin Fields, Jordan Love, uh a guy who we consider a gunslinger did not have the type of day that you would think Jordan Love would have. like this is not to me, you know, they scored 27 points. Okay, I get it. Um the first half they had six points. Mhm. You know, so in terms I know, you know, they in terms of looking at the defense like they had six points in the first half. I can’t I can’t say that this is on the defense. It’s it’s really hard to to say it’s on the offense as well. Obviously, the six sacks is glaring, but um this was just a game in which, you know, uh the I think the better team kind of won at the end, but uh it’s tough for me to say that it’s on the defense, man. I I think the defense played well relatively. Yeah, I mean that’s fair. I think, you know, the two easiest drives the Packers had was when Jacob Brassette fumbled, it was a short field, and then when they went for it on fourth and one, didn’t get it. This thing just popped in my head, too, which is problematic to give them a a better grade. I’d probably give him a B minus after realizing this that field goal at the end of the game at the end of the first half. The Cardinals could have kicked a field goal to win the game if that didn’t happen like that. So there’s what 7 seconds left and they I know the kid kicked a 61 yer but the Cardinals don’t go into halftime 13 to3. It’s 13 to6. They lose by four. If that doesn’t happen they’re down they’re down one down the stretch and they’re able to kick a field goal to win the game. Yeah. I just also think there’s some points to kind of point out in this game too. Will Johnson had a couple of penalties in this game where like wherever you want to go with that. I understand some of them might have been a little ticky tack. Uh Matthew Golden had a little bit of a resurging this game. He showed up a few different times. I mean, four receptions, 37 yards, but it felt like he at least showed up where at times he didn’t. It felt like he had a couple of big catches. Tucker Craft in this game for the second straight week. The Cardinals can’t defend uh the tight end position from Tyler Warren and Tucker Craft. So, yeah. I mean, I think the Cardinals defense did their job. What I continuously try to explain to people is in the big 2025, I don’t think defense wins championships anymore. And so, when the other team clearly has the better quarterback, whether Kyler Murray, Jacobe Brassette is on the field, and you have a chance to win in that game going down the field with the ball in your hands, the defense feels like it’s it did its job. And I feel like that’s again where the clarity comes in here for the Cardinals quarterback position where like if they have a top 15 quarterback, it feels like they’re a team that wins that game and is a definite playoff team at this point. So yeah, I just I just think it kind of goes from there, right? Like it all goes back to the quarterback position. Yeah. Yeah. I mean it’s 100% and I don’t think the game turns out that way. Um but uh we talked about, you know, last week or earlier this week the time of possession being key. Um the Cardinals did what they were supposed to do from that standpoint in terms of they had the ball for 34 minutes, Green Bay had the ball for 24 minutes. Like if you look at the numbers, the Cardinals should have won this game. They’re they’re they’re one or two plays away a game from their record being different. They’re close to 500. Like, so this team is not as far away as we think. I know it’s uh you know, to say that it seems kind of um like I’m trying to push hope on everyone, but they’re really not that far away in terms of how the games have turned how the games have turned out and how close they’ve been. Uh they’re one or two plays away each game from us talking about a whole different record. I mean, defense is 100% win championships, so let’s not um I I I disagree with that in 2025. I just think it’s different. Well, the Eagles were the top defense last year won the Super Bowl. The Chiefs were the top defense the year before, the second top defense the year before that won the Super Bowl. So, they 100% win championships. Sure. When it comes to this team, when it comes to this team, they’re down their top corner. Okay? And that’s a problem. They’re down five running backs and that’s a problem when you when you want to run the ball. And like this is the thing. Marv missed all of last game and like these are things they have so many injuries on this team and it’s not it’s not an excuse. It’s not a reason. But those may be the one or two plays that you’re missing from being two and five if those guys are actually available and and Will Johnson doesn’t have to play superhero in his seventh game in the NFL. Like if you have Garrett Williams there, I mean things are going to be different. But the by and large the Cardinals are the best two and five team I’ve ever seen this team beat. you know, and this is what’s the one thing what’s the one real differentiator in in one score games coaching. Like I think this is the first time you can actually look at the coaching staff and be like they’re in over their head. I think this is the first interesting okay well I think you can make the argument as well they lose five straight games by 13 combined points. It’s a quarterback issue too. So let’s talk about the quarterback position. quarterback. 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Kyler Murray is starting in week nine and he’ll probably start the rest of the year if he’s healthy. Because once they move once they once he’s a healthy scratch, that’s a wrap. Okay. I don’t think that that will ever go through anybody in that building’s heads, even if they wanted to, you know, and I think Jacob Brz should start. The season’s pretty much over. Nobody’s going to trade for Kyler Murray mid-season, I don’t think. Um, but if you don’t, if you’re not going to start him in week nine, trade him before week nine, for sure, because there’s no reason to wait till the end of the season. But there’s no world there’s no world he’s he doesn’t start when he’s healthy. They didn’t win these games. By you saying that, are you just so we can get clarity from you? By you saying that, you’re Are you saying Kyler Murray is the best quarterback like for this team right now? Did I say that? I’m getting clarity from your answer because by saying very clear is very clear. Kyler Murray will be the starting quarterback for this team when he’s healthy. It doesn’t matter if he’s better or not because obviously I can’t wait to hear Duping talk. Oh yeah, it looks the same looks the same with Kyler and with uh with with Jacobe. There’s no world that Kyler Murray doesn’t start when he’s healthy. Do I think he should? I mean, it doesn’t really matter, but I would bet some better, but I I would say Jacobe Br would like to see Jacob Brassette start. Ain’t going to happen, dog. There’s no way that they’re going to do that. So, so J, I I know how you feel about obviously which quarterback you think is at least better for this offense. Let me put it in a player question then. You clearly see a better quarterback outperform the one you have. You’re a player in that locker room and the team starts Kyler Murray instead. What is How do people in the locker room react to that? How will they react to that? How would you um there’s going to be I mean listen being competitive is everything. Uh from from a coach’s standpoint, you want your team to be competitive. What gives you the best edge? That’s what these teams are trying to figure out every week. Is it is it cutting practice shorter? Is it uh you know having more run plays installed? Uh better pass concepts? whatever it is, better players. Jacobe Brassette gives the Cardinals the best competitive chance. Now, I know Clancy’s coming at it from a standpoint of he’s he’s going off the track record of what the Cardinals have done in the past. What makes sense isn’t always what is being done. I don’t care about any of that. All right. I’m I am saying I’m saying if my job is on the line, which it will be at some point if this season is continuing to go the route of uh what it was when Kyler Murray was starting. I am going for who gives me the best chance to be aggressive. Through the last two weeks, we’ve seen a different offense from this team. Um, we’ve seen a downfield passing attack. Trey McBride has now, and I know Trey McBride has always been a guy, but in the last two weeks, we’ve seen the tight end that we know to be Trey McBride. Like, he’s a a matchup nightmare for people. And Jacobe has stood in the pocket, delivered shots. Like, last week he threw for 320 yards. This week 280. Like what are we what are we as a coaching staff? It has to be obvious that this guy is going to I’m going to go out swinging with this guy. If we’re not planning on keeping Kyler for the future, if he’s not our future, why are we trying to appease everyone else and not make the headlines? Let’s do what gives us the best chance to win. I don’t know if that’ll be done, but I will move with Jacobe moving forward. I just think there’s a chance that if you are it’s it’s too early in the season for everyone I think to just concede and with Kyler Murray at quarterback with the last couple of weeks like it feels like you’re already conceding like maybe later in the year Jacobe Brassette has a string of two bad games because we have a decade worth of data of Jacobe Brassette at quarterback. It’s not a great place to be either. Maybe then you insert Kyler back in and you try to, you know, build up his trade value towards the end of the season. Sometimes that happens. But like I I I can’t I can’t roll with Kyler Murray at quarterback if I’m Jonathan Ganon because I have to explain that to the rest of the team. And listen, I don’t think you want to lose the locker room thisoment. The locker room. That’s how this works. Well, Clinty, I mean, $50 million a year. Okay. Yeah. Kobe Brassette is not two and 0. He’s 0 and2. Kyler Murray had this team with one score games also. So it’s not like they were 0 and4. He gets hurt and then Jacobe Br’s 2 and0 and they’re scoring a 40 burner. Tai goes to the starting quarterback always. That’s why it won’t happen. Even if maybe it should because it looks better. Look at the raw numbers. Wins and losses. That’s all this this all this season mattered. That’s all that’s mattered this season. They are they have two wins with Kyler Murray, zero wins with Jakobi Brouset. Even Jacob said played far more difficult opponents than Kyler Murray. Yeah. Okay. Okay. I understand all of that. There’s no shot on this planet or another where Kyler Murray isn’t starting in Dallas on Monday night two weeks from now. There’s no world. So, sure, there can be a controversy. If they put up 10 points against the worst defense we’ve ever seen in the history of football with the Cowboy, excuse me, with the Cowboys, then, you know, maybe you sit Kyler and then he never plays for the Cardinals again. That is a very slippery slope. You can’t just start Jacobe when Kyler’s healthy and then be like, “Oh, no. Let’s go back to the guy that’s making all the money who got hurt.” Sure. Then then I mean, listen, I I’m just That’s why I said maybe. I wouldn’t go back to him. I I mean, there’s an injury clause in his contract. He gets he gets injured full. can’t pass a physical, all of his money becomes guaranteed. We mentioned that last show. Like, if you want to protect yourself from that, sure. But I’m not putting Kyler back out there at this point to either a rebuild trade value or b to think that I have a better chance of winning. And that’s why I look at it from the player standpoint that I’ve obviously never been in and J has been. I don’t know how well that plays because I see the def like Buddha Baker is a 510 190 pound player. gave everything at all to Jordan Love who’s 6’4 220 popped him and like I don’t know if you get that same sort of effort from players if they’re like we’re not even starting the best guy what am I doing every weekend Jal listen I I’ll tell you I’ll tell you this and I don’t think you guys will be able to disagree with me on this this is not one of those situations where the management and I’m talking about the guys upstairs uh scouts and and GM and head coach this is Not one of those situations where after these two losses, they’re sitting next to Kyler in the locker room and they say, “Hey, when we get you back, man, we’re going to be full steam ahead.” This is not one of those situations. This is not one of those. It It really isn’t. This This is one of those situations where, and I was going to say the timing of this is so interesting because you have the bye-week, teams are on their by-week. they’re re-evaluating. They go and look at statistics, um, projections for the rest of the year, who’s productive, all the PFF magical scores out there, all of these things. They go and look at it, and they debrief for hours and hours throughout the day. That’s just what these guys do. They love it. They have their coffee while they do it. Donuts, all the good things. Donuts. Yes, donuts. Oldfashioned maple bars, whatever you like, Clancy. They have him in there. Okay, this is the worst timing for Kyler Murray to be coming back from an injury because the two teams that they’ve played, like I said, playoff caliber teams, if you’re looking at how competitive your team has been in the last two weeks, even though you’ve taken a L, you’ve walked away from these two games saying, “Whoa, we’ve got our guys are playing a little different than we were the first what five weeks of the season. Let’s re-evaluate what we look like the last two weeks before this bye-week and now we got a decision to make. This is not one of those things where they’re saying, “Hey, Kyler, we’re ready to roll when you get back.” This is one of those things where they’re saying, “Man, Jacob’s really got us playing aggressive right now.” And and you see the way the defense is flying around. I think we’re in a good spot. Let me ask you this. Sorry. Continue. Go for it. Let me ask you this. Yeah, go for it. If you’re Jonathan Ganon and Drew Petting and Monty Austin for you decide to move off of Kyler Murray, your jobs are over. Not Monty’s like just let me So, explain to me why I’m wrong because I because I want I want to understand why I’m wrong. I’m not being combative. I truly want to understand why I’m wrong. So if you go with Kyler Murray, okay, which is what dictionary definition of what you do when your starting quarterback comes back like usually like a larger percentage instead of going with a backup, right? You go with Kyler Murray, it doesn’t work. Then you’ve got a well uh maybe it’s not an US problem. Maybe it’s actually a quarterback problem. If you go with Jacobe Brassette and you win three games this year, your walking papers are there, aren’t they? after the third year. Well, if you go with Kyler and you win seven games, your walking papers are there regardless. Like, in my opinion, like if if Kyler if you come out with the way that this team is playing right now, they’re only going to get better as Jacobe gets more and more reps with this with this offense. Can’t believe we’re talking about this. Kyler’s not delivering like that, man. He’s He’s really He’s really not like And it’s not it’s it’s not a knock on him as a player. I just think that Jacobe fits this scheme better. We talked about it last week, man. Like this isn’t an offensive line like the Philadelphia Eagles where, you know, guys can just sit back there like he’s delivering he’s delivering these these passes uh through guys like he’s getting aggressive. Jacobe has nothing to lose. Jacobe doesn’t care about what his reputation is. He knows who who he is as a player. He knows his strengths, his weaknesses. He’s not trying to prove people wrong at this point in his career. Kyler’s still in that phase of wanting to show that he’s the right guy for the job. Within that, he’s willing to he’s willing to be kind of uh less of a risk taker. And you can’t play like that right now for where the Cardinals are at. You need someone who’s who’s willing to take those risks. Like I hear what you’re saying, Clancy. I’m looking I’m looking at it from a standpoint of like regardless of the way that if this year goes how it was going and I know they were in close games, but if they win seven, eight games, like seven games, there’s going to be talks of moving on from someone regardless. So, uh, if you don’t believe in Kyler as your guy right now, I guess what’s the point in just holding on? What What’s the point in holding on? Let’s say let’s let’s put our big boy pants on and say, “Hey, this didn’t work for us. Uh, we’re going to roll with our guy and we’re going to figure this out after the season’s over.” Like, that’s just how I see it. I don’t know. Maybe that’s maybe that’s why I’m not a coach, guys. Hey, you know. yet? Yet, yeah, not yet. Not yet. Yet, yeah. Let’s uh uh let’s continue this conversation. Let’s put let’s put a pause on in half a second. Let’s continue it and talk about where the Arizona Cardinals go from here. I think there’s an interesting perspective or wrinkle that could be made. Like maybe Drew Petting has the final call trying to save his job, too. So, let’s talk about that next. Today’s show is brought to you by our friends over at Mazda. Mazda crafts cars for those who do more than simply move. Mazda’s Mazda delivers confidence with every ride. With more IIHS top safety pick plus awards than anyone else from footwork to bre to breath work, athletes sweat all the details. Mazda brings the same intention to how we craft every model. You can feel Japanese craftsmanship in every detail from the metallic accents to available Napa leather holstery. Like our players, we sweat every detail because when you make every move count, impossible becomes irrelevant. Mazda, move and be moved. So, I was thinking about this as the as the game was ending. I wonder if this does come down to a Drew Petting thing after all. Um, if any coach or GM or anyone is close to getting the axe or for better or for worse just not, you know, renewing his contract, it might be Drew Petting. What if and if Jonathan Ganon truly, like he says, does not overrule Drew Petting’s side of the ball, what if Drew Petting’s trying to save his job too? walks in there and says, “Hey man, I just feel like the Jacobe Brassette thing works better for my offense. I’ve been getting killed for two and a half years. Give me another three games to show you it’s not me, it’s the quarterback.” And then we can or don’t go back to Kyler. It doesn’t matter. But he could be someone too that’s trying to like One of the things I was thinking today was like I was way too hard on Drew Petting. Thoughts, Clancy? I’m going to say it again. If Kyler is a healthy scratch, he is not playing ever again for this team. Sure. Unless Jacobe Bruss gets hurt. So, it’s not going to be like, let’s try with Jacobe for a few weeks and then go back to Kyler. Ain’t no way. Sure. Okay. Drew Petting looks like a star the last two weeks compared to what it was. And I know a lot of this is Jacobe Brassette making plays, but he’s probably running like if you’re changing the way the offense is run to open it up more and it’s not your starting quarterback, that’s a problem. This is what the offense should be. And then you go to the Kyler Murray version with your backup. You know, it’s not that that’s not what it is. Like I think Drew Pensing has been fine. Drew Pensing has been good. The offensive line hasn’t been great. And things evolve, things change. Like you can change your mind. You saw that Drew Pencing was the problem. Then maybe it’s Kyler. But Jal, like dude, choosing Jacobe puts like that. Okay, so maybe you do it this way. Choosing Jacobe means they’re bringing everybody back next year. You could also have that argument where it’s like, hey, you know what? It was a quarterback issue. Maybe let’s see what it looks like with Jacobe Brassette. I just don’t know. I don’t know how you can crunch the numbers from what we’ve seen in the first seven weeks and be and see anything positive with it. This is like the best of the bad when we’re talking about this, you know, like I don’t know. It’s it’s a lot of crud when they lose seven when there’s seven one-score games. Yeah. So, so what’s popping in my head is like uh we’ve heard John Ganon say and this this kind of irked us early on. He’s like, “There’s nothing wrong with the offense, right? We heard him say that.” And and good point. It’s a good point. And so who So what was actually wrong in terms of Are you Nancy Drew in this right now? Listen, I’m just telling you guys, man. I’m just telling you guys, man. This is That’s a good point, man. I’m wondering I’m wondering, okay, why is he keep saying that? And we kept saying, well, what what like it’s Drew Petting. It’s Drew Petting. Ben just said, you know, oh, is Drew gonna go in there and say 100% he’s going to say something like that over the the course of the by-week. Like, there’s a reason why Jonathan Ganon has been saying there’s nothing wrong with the offense. I’m fine with the play calls. It’s because he’s seeing what we’re seeing. It’s not it’s it’s not it’s not a it’s there’s it’s not rocket science. Like, why else would he be saying that? Why else? Please tell me why. If if if it’s not, oh, it’s the quarterback position. The routes are being ran. Yeah, we may give up, you know, pressure here and there. Everyone does. And when you don’t have a top five offensive line, everyone does. Our quarterback’s not keeping his eyes down the field, uh, pressure gets in his face, he pulls it down, he scrambles, guys are open. like we’re now seeing I don’t they didn’t change the playbook. Same play calls. Uh two less running backs, same receivers. Guys are getting open. The ball is getting fit in tight windows. Guys are going up and making catches. I saw Marv do a first down celebration today. H haven’t seen that since Ohio State. Don’t know don’t know where that was. like this. I think I think we be we be silly to think that Jonathan Ganon was just saying there’s nothing wrong with the offense because there wasn’t a silver lining between that. Like there he said that for a reason. Um while we continue with the offense as a whole, I also just want to talk about some of these other things as well. Like I know we kind of mentioned it before, but the clear change that should be made on the offensive line is bringing Kelvin Beichum in and and and removing this Jonah Williams thing. And I want to continue to talk about the offensive line. Jal, dissect this for me. Maybe try to defend Jonah Williams a bit. I know you’re a friend of the offensive line, but Jonah Williams was abysmal today. And to Clansy’s credit, he’s been right. The Evan Brown thing has not worked either. How much of this is just like Micah Parsons is exposing how bad they are and the Cardinals have a clear offensive line issue that we haven’t had in years past? Yeah. I mean, that’s exactly it. I mean, it’s Micah Parsons. This Cardinals offensive line, like I said, it’s not a top five offensive line. You drop back. I don’t know how many times Jacobe threw the ball today. Uh, I don’t know. Someone help me on the numbers. I don’t think 37. Yeah, you dropped back 37 times. They gave up six sacks. There probably could have been more, but like this is I mean what do we do? I guess we didn’t expect Mike to have a three sack game, but we knew he was going to get his. We knew Rashan Garry was going to get his at some point in time. Y um dropping back 37 times is not a good recipe when you got two guys like that that can rush the passer. You know, uh obviously they’re professionals and you want to see them hold up because there are guys around the league that can do that, but the Cardinals are not the group that can do that. U and that’s just the cold hard truth about it. Um, I don’t believe that uh, you know, we we crucify him and say that he’s got to be out of there. Do I think do I think Kelvin Beichum would have had a better day? I don’t know. Kelvin Beichum vers Parsons. I don’t know. I don’t know. You know, but when you add Kelvin Beichum and what was it? What it be? Evan Brown as well sliding that production over. Like maybe you’re not having a three sack game, right? Or maybe it’s just just that good. Well, there’s no I mean there was no chipping at all. It was it was Williams buy him zero. Exactly. And we talked about that earlier in the week of like offensive coordinators having the ability to send a running back through there and we talked about it early on in the game. Send a crossiff across and get him thinking about his legs so he can’t just pin his ears back every time it’s a pass. So, um, I don’t believe that we can just say, uh, you know, this guy can’t block because there’s teams that have much better tackles that still have a plan for a guy like Micah Parsons or Rashan Garry. Um, it’s a it’s one of those things where it’s on the coaching staff as well as the player. Like, there’s times where you’re you got to win your one-on-one. That’s what the NFL is. But there’s also a time to be smart and say, “I’ve been leaving this guy on a little island here and there. Let me send a running back. Let me send a tight end or a bluff action at him just to give him some some space to breathe.” So, um, yeah, it’s tough, man. It’s a It’s a tough way to just kind of say I can blame it on one person because I do think it’s a collective effort. Yeah. I mean, listen, not having Tip Ryman, I mean, that’s that’s Tip Ryman’s chief role is is to be that guy. So, like Paris Johnson on the first bull rush, he held up. Uh, Jacobe stepped up in the pocket and I think completed a pass, but like Paris got beat once. Um, I think he had almost 10 pressures. Micah, he must have by the end of the game. Like, I know that it’s Micah Parsons and I also know that the Cardinal did nothing to upgrade the offensive line in the offseason and then showing. I mean, this is just what it is. They chose their battles with it. They decided to go full defense and, you know, running it back on offense. Like, I don’t think the offensive line is nearly as bad as it looked today. Like they just got absolutely abused on the interior and then if you if the interior pressure without Micah Parsons is is close to getting home and Micah can go one-on-one on the outside, you’re screwed. Yeah. Like you’re screwed. And that’s that’s just what we saw. I mean, here’s the thing. Feel like I’ve said that a lot this show. I used to say that a lot. That used to be like my crutch thing to say. I don’t say it anymore. But um anyways, you get a t-shirt made. Yeah. Uh, it feels like the exact same feeling the last five weeks. So, if things aren’t changing, it’s going to look different every week. Doesn’t matter who the quarterback is. Doesn’t matter any of it. Like, where do the Cardinals go from here? Yeah. I’m hardressed to find something that’ll improve it. I don’t care if it’s Kyler Jacobe. Like, whatever. It doesn’t like, yeah, of course, quarterback’s most important, so I’m not making that making that fluff, but like nothing they do is going to improve the situation right now. And I think that’s kind of a stark thing that we need to understand. They’re two and five. They’re probably going to win what, three more games the rest of the year if they’re lucky. They’re looking at a top 10 pick. You’re looking at moving off your quarterback, maybe moving off your coaches. Like the problem is and Jal, you’ve played with far less talented teams that have been significantly more productive in the win loss column. Yeah. Like, and I’m not I don’t always I’m not knocking the Tennessee team. Like, they were I mean, you guys had I mean, you’re number one seed in the in the AFC. Like, like obviously the coaching was better, the cohesion was better, the scheme, especially defensively was probably Oh, no. Especially offensively, was better, but like there’s way too much talent on this team to be making excuses for this team. So, something’s just a miss, right? Or do you not think this roster is super talented yet? No, this roster is talented. Um, this this roster is talented, man. It’s so hard. Like I Yeah, like you said, I played on teams that weren’t even I mean the Yeah, we had Derrick Henry, don’t get me wrong. Now, I’m not saying that Derrick Henry is not talented, but this team from a standpoint of just offensive firepower, the receivers, the receivers that they have, we had two receivers. We had Cory Davis and AJ Brown. Obviously two two really good receivers, but like this team is on paper better than what we had. And uh you maybe a player here and there. I just I don’t know, man. I don’t I don’t know. It’s so hard to put what it is on on the Cardinals because um like you said the the the guys on paper, you would think that this team would be better than what they are. I don’t know. It’s it’s tough for me to say. I will say I don’t think the Cardinals are very good in situational football. Yeah, that that’s a coaching thing. Um, and my experience with uh, you know, Varel, like that was everything was about situational football and we won a lot of games based off situational football. I think the Cardinals could be better in that category and and that would probably swing these games a different direction, but yeah, it’s tough to say. Were you on that team when they were in London and went for two against the Chargers? I was. Yeah, that was the first time where I was like, Mike Vel’s a bleeping genius. Yes. And that was to win the game at the end, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That was the first time I was like, “Oh, man.” I was also on the team where we we uh, you know, kind of duped Bill Bich with the whole uh, send 12 on the field, take the penalty, and ran Oh, that’s right. ran the clock down. Yeah. And that was that was literally something that was talked about that week in meetings. like the situational football was we had literally a 30 minute meeting on every situation that could every week. That’s just what it was. And some coaching staffs don’t do that. And then that’s when you see like those hiccups happen and players uh players say I think uh yeah players say oh we didn’t know the rule on that. I think that was a Super Bowl in which someone didn’t know the overtime rule or something like that or like th like those are meetings that happen on good coaching staffs and I don’t know that the Cardinals have that in situational football awareness. Let’s let’s dive deeper into the again where the Arizona Cardinals go from here. Some lessons of the game and let’s do it all next. Today’s show is brought to you by the lovely folks over at FanDuel. The NFL season is here and FanDuel has an offer you don’t want to miss. Right now, new customers can bet just $5. And if your bet wins, you’ll get $300 in bonus bets. That’s right. Pick a bet, put down five bucks, and if it hits, you unlock $300 in bonus bets. Hey, listen, man. Uh been right on the money with the Cardinals all year long. 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You’re like, “All right, we learned that in this game, Clancy. The only thing you can trust on this team is Trey McBride.” Damn, that’s a pretty good statement. That’s pretty good. When When who is throwing him the ball? doesn’t matter. That’s the only guy I you know what I mean of of course like to go like I’m not an idiot obviously played better than Kyler the last two weeks. What I mean about the quarterback controversy there isn’t one because there’s no world and if if I’ll eat it I’ll eat the shoes if it is but I just don’t know how this that’s how this organization works. But I mean truly that’s the only thing you can trust every week. Maybe Will Johnson but but even he had a couple penalties today. Three of them. He’s a kid man. He’s a rookie. Yeah, I know. It happens. It’s rookie stuff. But if we’re if we’re holding it to like that standard, that that’s a good one, Clancy. Yeah, true. Right. That’s good. Um, my biggest my biggest takeaway is this team is this team is competitive with Jacobe Brassette. I mean, I don’t know. I don’t know what else to say. Is it not apparent? Am I Am I wrong? No, it’s like Okay. Um, what? Okay. So, so let me ask you this. Since that’s apparent, what is the best argument to be made now, Jal? Cuz you are, it feels like you are the furthest on the Jacobe thing. I’m probably close with you. Clancy, I’m sure, is there too, but it’s probably lean towards the Cardinals making the wrong decision, which is okay. What is the best case for Kyler? Like, someone in the comment section is going to fight with you. What do you think they would say? And like, is that even a good enough response? Is there anything there that you could give in terms of Kyler being the guy moving forward? Yeah, like Kyler’s being scapegoed. Like they’re not using Kyler well enough. They’re making they’re they’re putting together an offense that works for Jacobe, but not Kyler. Does any of that hold hold weight with you? No. No, it doesn’t. The offense the offense doesn’t change. Uh it doesn’t change. I experienced this with Marcus Mariota and Ryan Tanahill. The offense did not The offense did not change. We ran the same exact offense. Ryan was just better at his pre-nap reads and that’s just what it was. It wasn’t like, “Oh, we got Ryan Tanahill. We’re about to blow this thing out the water.” That was not ever the case. He was brought there to be a backup, just like Jacobe was is brought here to be a backup. And um yeah, I don’t know that, you know, anyone could propose an argument to me that I would say, “Oh, yeah, you’re right. They just haven’t done that for Kyler.” like no it doesn’t it doesn’t fit uh in terms of in terms of uh you know an argument for Kyler just doesn’t work for me. I I think here’s the best thing that you could paint this picture of the Arizona Cardinal season kind of being like one giant failure at least thus far being what is it two and five on the season. You’re probably like bad news is they’re not gonna be a playoff team this year. We kind of all expected they should be a playoff team or in week 16, week 17, they’re literally battling out for one of those final playoff spots. Here’s the good thing. You got clarity. You know you are in the quarterback market. Before you weren’t sure before at the beginning of the season, like I thought Kyler was going to have a good enough season to take this team to new heights in the playoffs. But like you know where you’re at now. You know exactly what you have to do. go find your Sam Darnold or your Baker Mayfield, which I think is more plausible nowadays than it has ever been. But even not that, like maybe it’s not that because the Raiders tried to go get that with Gino Smith and it didn’t work. Jeez. Go now. Now you’re in the quarterback pos. Now you’re in the quarterback drafting position. Like here’s the thing like start Kyler, you’re going to win two or three more games. Start Jacobe Rouset, you’re gonna win two or three more games. I’m with Clancy there that it doesn’t matter from that perspective, but start watching some Saturday college football because get familiar with these quarterbacks because I think regardless whether they they they sign a guy, they’re going to draft one, too. And there’s some good ones out there. So, like it’s not all bad. This team, I know Clancy makes a good point by the only thing you can trust right now for sure is Trey McBride. They do have a lot of talent on this team and the defense was I think was good. Like, let’s just say that has been good to start the season. Good enough to win. Good enough to win for sure. Mar Marv has looked good in in stretches. You know, probably get involved a little bit more. Zay Jones has been a revolution from the second half of the Colts game to now. Trey McBride is awesome. You can find a running back in the in the open market. Like, it’s not all bad. It’s hard to find the quarterback, but at least you know now. Like, it doesn’t need to be said anymore. Like you could tell us that Kyler’s going to be go good go be good elsewhere but fine but like we’re there and like clarity is a good thing to have. You know what you are and I don’t think you knew that before. I mean here’s the thing. The problem is college quarterbacks been poopy diapers this year. Like let’s be honest like this is Simpson’s been nice. Sam Levit was good yesterday again against ASU. Like there’s a there I would you’re right Clancy for most of the season I would say yes but there’s been a few there’s been a few that have popped a couple games. Okay. And also, they don’t need to go get their Sam Darnold. They have Jacobe Brassette. Like, Jacobe Brassette, that would be the plan. He starts next year. Like, I don’t know why you’d go get somebody else. He already knows the offense if you’re bringing Drew Petting back. Like, if you’re getting rid of Kyler Murray, I think everybody else is coming back. The coaching staff and like unless Nick Rouse gets a head coaching look, which I’m not sure he will. Maybe he’s now a year away. Like, the quarterback thing is it’s not as simple. And this is why I’ve pushed back so much on it. It’s like it’s not as simple as, oh, go get another one. It’s like, okay, awesome. Look at the bottom 10 quarterbacks in the league. You want one of those? No. Cool. We’re not in the world anymore where Philip Rivers and Matt Ryan and Andy Dalton are journeymen. Joe Flacco, Aaron Rogers, like there aren’t any of those guys anymore. Sam Darnold is a child. Sam Darnold’s like 26. Like he’s been in the league for, you know, six years and he’s been on so many different teams. Like if you’re gonna do that, understand next year you’re probably not going to compete either. And that’s a difficult pill to swallow unless you know they allow you to trade for Lamar Jackson, which is probably gonna happen or they allow you to trade for Jared. Like it’s that’s not going to happen. So most likely going to take a back you’re going to take a downgrade to the quarterback position that already isn’t stable as much as you thought it was going into the season. Here here’s a push back to that one. Kyler Murray is a bottom three quarterback in the NFL. I I think you’re already kind of there. Like he he is he is downshifted. You think he’s a bottom three quarterback in the NFL? You No, no, no. Bottom third. third. Third, bottom third. He’s the bottom three. Okay, whatever. I meant I clarifying I meant bottom third. Like because I think before he was probably in like the 15th range. Now I think he he’s he’s in clearly the bottom third of quarterbacks. Maybe it works elsewhere. I don’t know. Sam Darnold and Baker Mayfield were both there at 1.2 when they were cut by the Panthers and you know the Jets at one point. And when I mean go find your Sam Darnold or Baker Mayfield, it e it’s much easier said than done, but like not Jacobe Brassette, like maybe you go find someone out there that you can bring in. Really difficult. It’s likely going to be the quarterback market, but go find your franchise quarterback. And yeah, Clancy, like you are conceding that you’re not going to be competing next year, even with Jacobe Versett. Like I have a decade worth of data to show you. Jacob Verset is a franchise quarterback. Not a good place to be. Maybe that changes, but it’s probably not going to like they’re not gonna be competitive anyways. You got to find the quarterback. Can a young quarterback with a readymade offense take a team where it wasn’t before with an average quarterback? Like say you draft Sam Levitt, okay? Or say you draft, you know, whatever it is in the top 10, you know, a top 10 pick. You look at Okay. All right. Go Sunundevils. Go Sundevils. Say they do draft Sam Le in the top 10. Can this team be better next year than they are this year? with a Jacobe brassette, Sam Levit, some sort of duo there. Let’s just say Jacobe for simplicity purposes. No. Sure. No. No. So, that is a that’s a clear decision that there’s another retool at the end of a rebuild. Yeah. And there’s no end in sight to where there’s actually going to be stability. Can you talk me through what it would look like in a locker room like that? Well, look, I’ll say this. Uh, I I’m going to say no that they they won’t be competitive because they don’t have a quarterback developer in their coaching staff like that. The teams that you see that have these young guys and you know, I know it’s been rough, but I mean this I think that’s that stat is the last six quarterbacks that have been taken in the first round. Each of their head coaches have gotten fired the following year. So rookie season during their rookie season dur during their yeah during their rookie season they’ve had a and they’ve had a new head coach for the following year. So yeah, that’s a crash course within within itself. So um who’s out there that’s available? You got to make this probably a splash trade. Uh but like there’s not going to be a young guy out of college that comes in and changes this organization right away. Uh can I push back on that a little bit? Like with all the really with all the really bad teams in the NFL that are going to be picking in the top five, the Cardinals have the tight end. We all like I think the you can find pretty easily a really good running back or a B running back. We think Marvin, you know, at some point can turn into at least a number two. like they have the Cardinals especially defensively and now with some of the offensive weapons and you have your franchise left tackle like they are ready made for success where you’re not asking for a franchise savior. You’re asking for someone to not crash maybe not a Maserati but a really nice Honda Civic, right? Yeah. Have you have you have you watched the Vikings uh at all? Damn, that’s a good point. All right. Yeah. I mean, Kevin Okano’s Kevin Okano’s one of the best in terms of coaching quarterbacks, and we saw JJ McCarthy come in after a year of just learning and still struggling. So, uh, yeah, you can have as good as a roster as you need. They have the Vikings have a top defense in the league. They have weapons all over the field, running back, receivers, tight ends. Quarterback is a different It’s a different animal. And uh in terms of guys being able to develop right away, there’s a struggle. There’s just a struggle. And so this when when they decide to move on from Kyler Murray, because I do think that’s the case. Like, and it’s not a knock on Kyler. I just think that, you know, when you overstay your welcome, it’s just like one of those things where it’s time to go at some point. Like that’s where we’re at. Um, this isn’t going to be just next year we’re going to see a whole different team. Like we’re going to be kind of having these conversations for a little while now until, you know, uh, I believe I I unfortunately think it’ll get chalked up to a coaching thing. Oh, we don’t have a guy that can develop our quarterback. That’s where it’ll go. Um, but I don’t know, man. This is going to be something. This isn’t just a quick fix in terms of the quarterback position because guys out of college don’t come in NFL ready. And then there’s not a lot of guys that are just out there, especially number two quarterbacks that you can say uh oh, he’ll come in and make us better. You have to make a splash trade and uh even then you got to get rid of something in order to get something. Yeah. I mean, listen, as all of that’s true and it’s mindbending and it it sucks and it’s exciting at the same time, weirdly, with all of the quarterback stuff aside for a second, going into the by-week from a human perspective as an offensive lineman in this locker room, what does that locker room look like right now going into the buy? uh as far as morale just yet just like they got, you know, 10 more games. Yeah. Week to stew. Yeah. I think everyone’s I’m not kidding. This sounds crazy to say, but I think everyone’s looking at the last two weeks and they’re saying, “This feels different. Th this just feels different. I know we’ve lost, but look at who we lost to and how we’ve lost. Like, we hung in games with teams that are considered playoff caliber teams. Like, we have, this is the thing, we keep saying they have the guys to do it. The fit at quarterback is, and I know Jacobe may not be a long-term answer. We’re not even talking long term here, though. if he gets you to, and we don’t know if it’s possible, if he gets you to eight or nine games because you’re just playing competitive and scrappy, that’s what the Cardinals just may be. They may they may just be a scrappy team. So, um I think they’re looking at it right now and saying, “Doc, we’ve we’ve been competing differently these last two weeks, so let’s see what they decide when we come back from this by week.” you know, if uh you know, Clancy said kind of joke jokingly, maybe the Cardinals need to trade for Lamar Jackson. And here’s what I’ll say to that for a crossport reference. No one thought the Dallas Mavericks were going to trade Luca Donuch. So, never say never. And so, I’m going to leave you on that high hope, Cardinals fans. Never say never. Lamar anything either. Yeah. With that being said, for my guy Alex Clancy, Jal Douglas, myself, Benjamin Garcia, everyone in the comments section that for some reason I can’t post your comments today. So, I apologize for that. Hey, at the end of the day, J’s right if you from our audio audience, forks up. ASU looks pretty good. It’s not all down bad in the valley. So, with that being said, we will see you guys this week for Clancy Douglas, myself, Benjamin Garcia. We will talk to you guys later on this week.

Kyler Murray or Jacoby Brissett? The Arizona Cardinals face a quarterback dilemma after their loss to the Green Bay Packers. Former NFL offensive lineman Jamil Douglas joins to break down the game and debate the team’s future.

The hosts analyze Brissett’s performance, offensive line struggles, and potential draft strategies. They explore the impact on team morale and discuss coaching approaches. Douglas shares insights from his NFL experience, highlighting the importance of situational football awareness.

Key topics include the Cardinals’ quarterback controversy, offensive line challenges against elite pass rushers like Micah Parsons, and rebuilding strategies. The conversation touches on potential trades, roster moves, and the difficulties of finding a franchise quarterback in the NFL.

Listen now to hear expert analysis on the Cardinals’ path forward and the complexities of NFL team-building.

0:00 Intro: Cardinals lose to Packers, QB controversy
5:17 Analyzing Cardinals’ competitiveness with Brissett
10:13 Importance of offensive line coaching
15:03 Defense performance and offensive struggles
19:54 Quarterback controversy: Brissett vs Murray
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