Garden Report: Celtics vs Knicks Postgame Show – Boston Drops to 0-2 in New York

Always has to be a shot at somebody. I know they’re never clean. They have to run. That’s the only shot they have. They do it for 82 games. We’re about to find out. He already has shown what he’s capable of. Did surprise me. I thought we were going to hang in there. This makes me think that we do need to be humble. I actually think you’re the only one who deserved that. H I actually think you’re the only one that deserved that beating. Final words from John Xanis on the new intro. And Sherrod, it felt like a bit of a beating tonight, especially in that second quarter as the Boston Celtics lose their second game of the season in two games. 105 to 95 to the New York Knicks, the same Knicks team that booted them last year. We don’t want to talk about that playoff series. A lot went down. But um I don’t know, Sherrod. Uh it’s a Friday night. I want to feel good. I want to feel happy that we got through the week. I want to feel good about this game, Jimmy. So, how do you feel good about the NBA season starting up and the Celtics taking the court, but I just don’t feel good right now. I don’t feel good after this loss. This There was a couple bright spots. We’ll get into them, but we’re not going to go full green goggles yet. We’ll wait for Bobby Anoa to jump on and tell us all about Yua Gonzalez who is the next big star in Boston after his NBA debut tonight. And we’ll get into we’ll get into uh Yua Gonzalez in a little bit. For some reason, Amit’s got the Pton Pritchard lower third going on here. Damn it, Amit. Nick’s sad, man. Thought you were paying attention. There we go. Celtics lose to the Knicks again. 105 to 95. Shrod, what went wrong in this one? Let’s let’s I guess start let’s start from the first half that that second quarter there. It looked like the Celtics jumped looks like there was going to be a competitive game. They jump into that first quarter lead hitting some shots. Joe’s getting creative with the lineups going full subs like it was wreck league back in back in the 90s and you know you’re you’re you’re just waiting for the the bad kids to play and get your four minutes before you can go back in. What happened from the first quarter to the second quarter where this game got so far out of reach for Boston? They went down 20 points. Well, I mean, this game, there are lots of things that that did not go their way. I mean, it’s almost like you can look at what went their way and that and had that be a very short conversation. Uh, the things that jumped out in this game more than anything else, I thought, was the offensive rebounding. Uh, they gave New York way too many second and third shot opportunities and the Celtics transition defense. Uh, they they did not do a good job of limiting New York getting out and running. New York was able to get to the free throw line, knock down shots. They were doing anything they wanted to in transition for the most part. And the Celtics did not put up enough resistance to that. And throw in the fact that, you know, we’ve talked about this before, your best players are going to have to play their best games. And Peyton Prid was not very good in this game. Derek White for long stretches was not very good. And Jaylen Brown, this is the thing about Jaylen. Before the season started, when he played with Tatum, he was what you’d consider a top 15, top 20, top 25 player. Now, he’s still a top 15, top 20, top 25 player. And there’s no Tatum around. And that’s a problem. He has to be better than we’ve seen him before. He has to become a better version of Jaylen Brown. And that’s just not happening. It’s He’s not playing bad. Jaylen is playing he’s putting up pretty much before. He’s not Jimmy. He is not playing bad. Don’t don’t make me go don’t make me do it. I don’t want to I don’t want to start the show on this note, but Jaylen Brown, I can’t say has been playing great basketball. In fact, he’s not playing him up there on the court. He looks like a half of the Jaylen Brown that I’m used to seeing. This is the way his overall I’m looking at his game from beginning to end and overall he’s giving you pretty much the same production he gave you with Tatum. And that’s my thing. He’s not elevating his play in terms of his stats and he’s not elevating the play of those guys around him in part because they’re not making the shots. Uh, you know, he had a couple of really nice plays where he got guys the ball in spots that they should knock shots down like Payton Pritchard and it didn’t happen. So this their own they are exactly where they’re supposed to be. Uh they have they’ve you know Joe Mazula had not never lost an opening game until this year. Uh they’ve now dropped their first two. It’s been a minute since they’ve started off this poorly and there’s some positive things that they did in this game, but for the most part, their inability to control the glass, uh, their inability to not allow New York to get out and run, which is crazy because New York was like the Celtics last year, incredibly slow team, not really a big pace team, and yet they were able to really get out and score with ease uh on fast breaking transition opportunities. the the Joe Misula has his work cut out for him to to say the very least. I think even though you you see a lot of the same faces on that New York Knicks roster, I think their style of play is going to be a little bit different this year. You know, they get a new coach, they’re they’re ready to go, they know where the expectations are and and they see that the East is wide open and you know, if the Knicks the Knicks are are a lot of experts picks to come out of the East, I’m not saying that they’re picks to win the whole thing, but this is going to be a big year for the Knicks. And I’m not sure yet what that means for the Celtics in terms of what their season where the direction their season’s going in. But Shrod, I’ll have to agree with you on a couple points there. Second chance points were non-existent for Boston and everywhere for the Knicks. It was like you said, those opportunities, those offensive rebounds. I don’t know if it was positioning for Boston. I don’t know if it’s I mean, of course, it’s positioning, right? I think a lot of that has to do with skill. I think also the transition. What do we What do we keep hearing about Boston going into the season, Sean? That they were going to want to run run, get out on the break, get stops, get out in transition. I think they had what, two, four points uh fast break points tonight. Yeah, I think they had two Yeah, and I think okay, for the free throw line, two recorded fast break points tonight um to the Knicks 15 and then points um let me see, second chance points, Knicks 21 and uh Celtic seven. Now, honestly, the Knicks probably could have had more. They missed a lot of second chance opportunities, as many as they had. I mean, they were getting second, third, fourth chances off offensive boards. It just felt like Boston was a step behind all game. And I go back to the leaders of this team, Sherro. Jaylen Brown, Derek White, both guys who looked off from the start in this one. Pton Pritchard as well. I mean, he he could not hit a three to save his life in that first half there. And you go down 20 points. You really play sloppy late in that second quarter. I think it was floating around 10 12 points with a couple minutes left, still striking distance. And then I I saw um Brown with the lazy turnover. I saw um just some ill-advised shots. Derek White when he misses right now, he really misses. I mean, he’s been really off in a few of his shots, whether it’s a big brick or even an airball. So, you look at the players at the top who are going to have to sort of steer this ship here. And you don’t even need you don’t need Brown and White to play good. You need them to play great in order for you to really compete in this game. I mean, the Celtics with 95 points. And unfortunately, this to me looks like the type of score you’re going to see offensively when the heads of your Snake aren’t firing on all cylinders. I mean, they even got production out of Hower tonight. I think it was maybe 18 or something like that. Yeah. Um, so you’re going to get that game where that, you know, third or fourth guy is going to contribute, right? But if you’re not getting a combined what 55ish from white and brown, which you didn’t get anywhere close to that tonight, it’s not going to matter what Hower gives you or what Pritchard gives you because you still need to find 55 60 points at the top in order to hit that 105ish, you know, 110 number. And so that’s my big concern with this team. Defensively, I think they can scrap and claw. That’s effort, right? At least until you get towards late in the year and what’s to play for. But right now, I think, you know, if they’re if they’re being coached up well enough, they’re going to fight out there. They’re going to scratch and claw and they’re gonna and I think they did give the Knicks some trouble at points in this game. Certainly, and give Celtics credit, they hung around, right? They they kept it to, you know, within 10. They got to within nine, but, you know, Brunson ended up being too much for them down the stretch there. And it’s a similar story uh in ways where it’s the opponent’s bigname player. On Wednesday, it was Maxi, right? And tonight it was Brunson who hit that 30point plateau and kind of had his way with things. Yeah. And that and that can happen particularly when you’re going in most games a significant slash severe underdog and and you just never really got a feel for Boston truly having control of this game. They had the stretch where they got the lead and that felt good, but that at no point did you feel as though that they were they were controlling the action and that they were going to win this thing going away. And I to your point earlier, Jimmy, I think we’re going to see a lot of games like this where they’re just going to hang around, hang around, hang around and not get over the hump. Uh they’ll be right there but not quite able to get over the hump. And it’s, you know, this was just a weird game. Uh it it felt like this was a game for the taking for the Celtics that that this was a game that could have been one of those if they get off to a great start and in three weeks from now they’re you know sitting at top the East. This would have been one of those type of games that could have been the catalyst of that. But now I mean we’re two games into the season and we’re still waiting to see who this team is. What can they do? Um and it’s rough man. And these streets are rough for the green. I It might not be that you’re you’re waiting still waiting to see who they are, Sherrod, or or whoever out there watching. It might just be that you don’t like what you see and and you’re not ready to to see what you see. I mean, that that could be part of it, right? Uh I don’t want to get too deep on everybody. And again, it is only two games in here. Um but you’re talking to somebody who predicted who predicted them to miss the playoffs. So, I can’t sit here and say that I’m stunned that they lost to this Knicks team on the road. Wait for the victory lap, Jimmy. I was not taking a victory lap. Not taking a victory lap. I’m just saying that I think if you can sort of take a step back and look at where the Knicks are right now and where they hope to be uh at the end of the season and you look at where the Celtics are and where, you know, realistically you think they could be, then I don’t think you can walk away from this game shocked or stunned or extremely disappointed by how it went. I think you come out of here thinking, “Okay, that’s kind of what we thought might happen.” And it did happen. Now, you might not like some of the things in that game. You might not like the way Jaylen Brown looked or maybe you did like the way he looked. I personally thought that he looked a little lethargic out there at times. I think that he made some sloppy passing. Uh certainly down this late in that fourth quarter, he threw the ball out of bounds to literally nobody. Um and yeah, he’s still going to be Jaylen Brown in spurts. he still going to make his move to the basket and and he got his, you know, he ended up that that points number ticked up there. But did you ever once tonight say Jaylen Brown is taking control of this game or Jaylen Brown is in a groove right now or he’s really letting the game come to him or or anything remotely close to that? I mean, we put the numbers up on the board. 23 points from Brown. Again, you’re going to need close to 30 from Brown every single night. And honestly, there’s no reason to believe he can’t give you anywhere near that with the role that he has in this team. Nine of 18 from the field. You might look at that and say that’s pretty efficient. Three of seven from three, four rebounds, three assists. And there’s that last number, Sherrod, that you hate to see. Seven turnovers and a minus 14. He was minus 20 at half, by the way, with the Celtics down 20. So, I can’t at any point in this show say that Jaylen Brown was was not part of the problem tonight. I think he was a big part of the problem. And he’s going to be a big part of the solutions on most of the nights where they win, and he’s going to be a big part of the problem on most nights when they lose. And that’s that’s the the you know what you get when you want to be the alpha or when you’re the number one on this team is you get the praise and then you get the criticism. So tonight it’s going to be criticism. And so what Jaylen Brown are we going to see this year? Are we going to see that? Are we going to see the same Jaylen Brown that we’ve seen in past seasons where he’s, you know, the 1A and he’s a guy that on any given night can look like a top, you know, five player in the NBA or are we going to get a Jaylen Brown that looks like maybe he’s hobbling a little bit? Looks like maybe he’s not full speed. Looks like he’s not playing his style of basketball, which is attack mode. I don’t want to see, Listen, let me step back for a second. I do want to see Jaylen Brown with good court vision, and I do want to see him make the extra pass and make the smart play and play heady basketball. I want to see all those things, but at the end of the day, I want to see the Jaylen Brown that’s going to be the athletic specimen Jaylen Brown that’s going to out muscle you. that’s going to out out freak you athletically on the on the on the court and is going to go into some sort of a takeover mode and I want him to be the guy that can score from behind the arc and at the same at the same time can take two steps and be at the rim. That’s that’s what I’m looking to see. It’s it’s a tough start to the year that we don’t see that type of Jaylen Brown. Yeah. Yeah. Because that that’s that’s literally who he is. Uh, and you know, he’s trying I think he he’s trying to walk that fine line between being true to himself and what he can do and being an encouragement of sorts to his teammates uh who talent-wise aren’t they’re just not him. And it’s it’s tough because I Jaylen needs to be I think and it’s it’s crazy to think this, but he needs to be a little bit more aggressive and assertive offensively. Um, I think he doesn’t look for his he doesn’t call his number nearly as much as he should. Uh, particularly when there’s no Tatum around. If your numbers are damn near identical without Tatum as they are with Tatum, uh, that’s something wrong when you’re the next man up as a scorer. Your numbers should be better. Uh, and I don’t I don’t know if they’re going to be. Um, but and that’s the thing, you know, we’re two games in here, so we’re not going to try to project all 82 games, but I think it’s clear that, you know, roles have to roles have to change on this team. Everybody’s role is expanded now. Sherrod, you’ve got obviously we just we talked about Brown and what he needs to look like out there on the court. I think Derek White has gotten the message that he needs to be more aggressive and I think we actually have seen that. I’m not saying he wasn’t aggressive at all last year, but there was clearly points where he had to sort of take a step back as you know, Tatum kind of took over late in the games and Brown was trying to do his thing. I think this year you are going to see a Derek White who is going to take control and might even do so more than Jaylen Brown. Based on what I’m kind of seeing so far, at least in as as things kind of unfold in front of our eyes here, it feels like Derek White is the active player on this team. is the guy that, you know, is going to take the rock and not be scared to take 15 threes, right? I’m not saying that’s what you want to see on any given night, but he’s not going to be afraid. Yeah. Well, you can see that on any given night. Exactly. I mean, he took 11 tonight. And you know, the problem with tonight, Sherrod, is that he was way off. And and you talk about um you know, we can talk about Jaylen Brown all we want, but if we’re going to talk about Jaylen Brown and criticize him, we got to criticize Derek White. Not so much for the turnovers. And I wouldn’t say that Derek White’s style of play looks any different. I’m just saying simply when his shots not falling and he’s taking a lot more, you’re going to run into big issues because I said it last show, who’s coming to save you, right? Pritchard hasn’t found it yet through two games. Shout out H Hower and we are we are going to talk positives tonight at some point. Not right away. We’ll probably leave we’ll probably leave it for the green teamers part of the segment when when Bobby and Noah come on. We’ll talk Hower. We’ll certainly talk Gonzalez and those guys. Listen, if Gonzalez is the bright spot tonight, I’m happy about that. That’s the silver lining in this one because it does feel like Gonzalez is already leaps and bounds ahead of some of the other guys that have been in the league longer than him. And I think you’re going to see a lot more. A lot of people are clamoring in the chat. Got some text during the game. Got to get more Gonzale. Gotta get more Gonzo. Gotta get more Gonzalez. Gotta get more. Gotta get more. I think you’re going to get more. Everybody relax. I think this is the type of season where you where you’re certainly if you’re Joe Missoula looking for anybody to slide in and to step up and to be a player that can contribute. So I think you’re definitely going to get Morgan. So we’ll talk about him. We’ll talk about Hower. But even those two shot if you’re if if you’re the type of fan who is expecting this team to make the playoffs or make a run in any capacity, even those guys are capped at what they can give you. It’s the it’s the Browns and the Whites that need to do their thing. So, it’s tough on a night where, you know, Brown’s turning the ball over seven times and Derek White’s, you know, shooting three of 11 from three and and five of 18 from the field, right? I mean, is that a cause for concern or is that just a want is that just a tough shooting night? Because I don’t know if necessarily the Knicks were doing it doing anything specifically to to make Derek White uh, you know, to make things difficult for Derek White. I think I think obviously they do play tough D, you know, and I think, you know, they do have players on this team, heart, guys that can get into players pretty significantly, but I just think there was a lot of shots that just looked way off tonight. Yeah. And and I I don’t know if there’s any magical solution or potion or X’s and O’s that’s going to fix that and fix it quickly. So that I think that’s one of those problems that they’re going to be dealing with in some capacity all season long. But can they minimize its impact on their play and winning? And I I I’m very pessimistic about that. I just don’t think that they’re built to withstand a lot of the typical ups and downs that the NBA season uh presents. So, it’s it’s going to it’s this is a really difficult team to get a get a vibe on because, you know, the good news is they’re in the Eastern Conference, which is incredibly wide open. The bad news is that there’s a lot of teams that on paper are better than them uh in the East, and that’s something that we’re not accustomed to seeing. And so, they they’re still trying to figure out how to navigate all this. and we’re only two games into it, so there’s no need to hit the panic button. But there should be a raised level of concern about this team when you look at just the way that they’ve lost these first two games and on nights when they did a lot of things that position them to to maybe steal a win. So, this is going to be this is going to be one of them damn seasons, man. It’s going to be one of them damn seasons. And I’m told that we have Joe Moula ready to go. But before we go to Joe, we want to remind everybody that their God in report is brought to you by our good friends at Prize Pick. That’s right. Toss that up there, Ahmed. Thank you very much. Uh you and I make decisions every day, but on Prize Picks, being right can get you paid. Don’t miss any of the excitement this basketball season or football season on Prize Picks where it’s good to be right. And I know the NBA season’s just getting underway, Sherrod. We can go more, we can go less on a number of NBA players right now. I think if you’re watching Celtics games, you might be thinking less. I hate to say it, but hey, who’s to say? Who’s to say? It’s little, it’s a little too early, Sherrod. 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I think at one point we only had five offensive rebounds. Um, you know, live ball turnovers. I think we had uh, you know, I forgot how many turnovers that we had in the game, but you know, and then obviously the offensive rebounding. So, it’s a combination of those three things. So, we have to clean those up. Um, those are areas that you can control. Those are areas that just require effort and discipline and and, you know, building the habit of that. But, you know, backto-back games where uh, gave ourselves a chance, but we had two 20 two 42point quarters, you know, so we got to clean that up. Wow. Damn. Uh I mean not no you have to execute the details and the discipline. I mean maybe playing in a different system but you know uh you know for some of them but no there’s just details that we just you have to build the habit of executing that discipline. Um you know and if you look at a 48minute game no one has played a perfect 48minute game. I thought last game maybe we played 12 to 16 minutes of the way that we need to play on both ends tonight. I thought it was you know closer to 24. So, um, we just have to continue to get that number up as high as possible and and it’s it’s just the effort and the details and the discipline. What did you see that led to some of those improvements? Uh, I don’t think we had a steal to the third quarter and I think we had, you know, five or six. Um, just played at a much faster pace. Uh, I thought, you know, I thought, you know, I was saying we used pace offensively. I thought our pace defensively was good. Um, and, uh, we’ll just have to continue that up. But, I thought we competed. I thought we sprinted to our spots. I thought we executed. I thought we moved the ball. I thought we did the things that we need to do, but you know, it wasn’t enough because, you know, we didn’t do them in the second quarter. What’s your message to him? What is his number? I know everybody has. Yeah. Uh what he did. I mean, you know, he’s been well coached, you know, you know, before he’s gotten here. So obviously being a part of a great organization having great coaches so he’s understand you know what it what it takes and you know I think he has a clear understanding of what his role is and and it’s to you know defend at the highest of levels and and and play with the level of uh you know effort on the offensive end and he’s able to do that. So uh there’s things he needs to clean up obviously but uh you know I thought he did a great job helping set that that third quarter tone with his his effort and his his toughness. You’re talking you go there, huh? Yep. go. You go left go right. Yeah. Again, some of those fouls are going to come. I think we also forced 20 turnovers, you know, so some of those are going to come. I think there’s the situational ones that we have to get better at, whether it’s a the ones that you have to clean up on a players tendencies, you know, uh um but again, you know, we forced 20 turnovers, so I think a little bit of that comes with it. Uh again, with the rebounding, we have to combat it in three ways. We have to we have to be as physical as we can rebounding. we have to get offensive rebounds and we have to force more turnovers. So, it’s a three- thing approach to getting that. Um, you know, so there are moments of physicality defensively. We can be better at that and then we got to combat it with offensive rebounding and us forcing turnovers and and us not turning it over. I think if you look at those four categories, defensive rebounding, offensive rebound, forcing turnovers, not turning it over, we probably have a better chance at controlling three out of the four of those with our effort and and our ability to control those things. And so, we got to fight for those. That’s a lot of words. That’s a lot. Yeah. 12 minutes closer. We did it for 12 minutes last game. We probably did it for 20 to 24 today. So, we’re 12 minutes closer. Um, you know, and and and you know, that’s what we have to figure out. And and I and I told the guys like, you know, there are teams that can ease into a season and there are teams that can uh do that, but you know, we have to have a sense of urgency to to develop in the identity that we need. And I thought they showed that um, you know, in the second half. I mean, I still think you can hold guys to a high a higher standard. I mean, again, it’s it’s there’s a there’s a result here. Like the end of the day, you know, that the there’s an expectation to win, but it’s to win by the process of doing what we need to do. So, the standard comes from holding them accountable to the process. tonight. You know, we had a miscommunication on a play that we walked through. We had a miscommunication on a read offensively. We can control those things regardless of if you’re a rookie or a 12-year vet. Like those are the things. So, I think it’s holding accountable to the things that we can control. Uh and that’s a high high standard. And and to me, you can’t budge on that. Uh and like I said, you know, they’re going to make mistakes and that’s okay, but they got to be mistakes of of aggression and mistakes of opportunity, not mistakes of not playing hard, you know. And I thought the second quarter it was a little bit of mistakes of aggression, but I thought we got outplayed in that corner and and we just can’t get out played. Well, we’re 0 and two, so that’s it’s starts there, I would say. Um, and the second piece is there’s different ways to be great and and and you know, easing into an identity. Uh, understanding who we are and who we can be. We want to get to that faster than other teams can. I think that’s that’s being an advantage and I think we we have an ability to do that. So, um you know, we’ve shown signs of of learning about that in our film sessions and our practices and again we’ve showed 12 minutes better, but you know, we got to there’s a I felt a sense of urgency to getting to that identity faster. Thank you, Joe. Thanks. All right. All right. So that is Joe Missoula talking to media after uh Celtics again dropped to 0 and2 on the season after 10595 loss to the Knicks. Looks like Joe is a little critical of the physicality tonight in this one. Uh Sherrod or or at least in bits and pieces. Um and I I will say that did stand out to me a little bit on the on the glass. I think it just felt like the Knicks, I’m not gonna say it was better positioning, but it just felt like they were just getting the balls quicker off off the boards, off the off the rim, off the backboard. They were fighting for a little bit more. I saw some Celtics players hit the deck a few times. Um, and again, I’m not saying it’s an effort thing. I just think the Knicks were more physical um out there and and it showed. And I think it showed when you look at the rebound discrepancy on the offensive rebounds there when I think the Knicks had 21 offensive rebounds. That’s insane. Compared to seven, I think or nine maybe from Boston. And and that obviously contributes to the second chance points that they were able to put up. Yeah. Yeah. And it’s just a a collection of cluster. You know what for the Celtics in this one? Uh, a lot of the things that they know they have to do to win, they just didn’t do. Uh, a lot of the things that they had to minimize their impact were things that, you know, they got the they got the doors blown off in this one. Uh, the final score does not indicate the control that New York had over. This was not a 10-point game. This was a game that the Victors should have won by significantly more than that because so many of the things that again the Celtics are accustomed to doing and wanting to do, it just it just just didn’t happen. Uh, and I don’t feel good about how often it’ll happen going forward. Uh, at some point they’re going to either these kids are going to have to grow up really quick or they’re going to have to do something to just slow down the bleeding. Uh, and you know, and we’ll get we’ll get into it a little bit later, but you know, for me that my favorite part of the game was seeing Ugo out there. Um, I thought he did so many good things. Uh, that we’re 30 minutes in. We We can go positive for a stretch here. Why don’t we why don’t we toss up Ugo’s Ugo stat line there and we’ll chat we’ll chat about him for a second cuz I the thing about the thing about teams that are built the way the Celtics are right now is that you your players have to do one of two things. They either have to put up big numbers or they have to make a big impact. Uh and those two things are not necessarily mutually exclusive or combined for that matter. Uh and Hugo I don’t think his numbers were huge but I thought his impact was great. uh lots of hustle plays uh getting guys, you know, the ball in the different spots. I Yeah, he picked up four fouls, but he was also guarding an AllNBA player in Brunson. So, you know, the 18 19 year old rookie guarding the AllNBA guy. Yeah, I thought he did a I thought he did a good job for the most part. Um and Sam Hower, we talked about him for a little bit as well. He had a really good game. The thing about Hugo that I really like is that the things that he did for the most part are the things that you don’t need to call his number. You don’t need to make any definitive plans to get him involved. He’s just going to simply play his game and that game is going to make him someone that’s involved. I thought he did a great job uh you know defensively. Yes, he picked up four fouls, but he was active. Uh he was hustling. He was giving you good energy. He was doing what your backups are supposed to do. get in the game, cause a little ruckus, get the folks fired up, and if you’re on the road, you want to make sure that you’re doing something that can, you know, keep you in keep you afloat in the game or potentially surge ahead. And I I just thought that Hugo for most of this game did checked off a lot of those boxes for the Celtics. I’m just glad Joe didn’t pull the pump fake again and take him out, you know, at the scorers table table like he did in game one. But I’ll say I I was watching pretty closely in the second quarter that you know the infamous second quarter when Boston was struggling and although he was out there for some of those points, I saw him all over the place. Not necessarily saying that he was positively or negatively affecting the play at that point in that quarter, um I saw him got I saw him get knocked around a few times. I saw him complain to the referees a few times because it felt like I think he felt like he was getting shoved by um by Brunson there a couple times and then he kind of got bodied on a rebound opportunity and then on the baseline inbounds he got caught sleeping uh which is fine it is what it is but third quarter specifically when the Celtics went on a little bit of a mini run there to try to make it uh a game again. He was a huge part of that and I think the fact that Joe went to him and stayed with him in that third quarter is him acknowledging uh Yugo’s positive effect in that quarter and just by just by being active shard like you said just by being himself not being asked to take on a scoring role or do anything other than play hard be active move around help on defense run out on the break all of those things. get your hands in there and and just try to just try to be a pest, you know, in in any way possible. And if that’s how he’s going to make an effect on his team, he’s already like seventh on the depth chart, literally like he like you can go you can go over this roster right now and you’ve got your starters. you can toss, you know, you’ve got your starters, Kada, whether he’s a starter on every any given name, any given game. Simons, and then I think it’s Yugo. I mean, who else could it be? He’s passed Charman, he’s passed Walsh, he’s passed uh Minot, he’s passed um obviously Garza. Who am I missing? I mean, I I think he’s he’s he’s the one of the guys that you’re going to see coming off the bench, you know, moving forward here. Uh, and I think this is the this is the season where you have to you have to take advantage of that playing opportunity. You know, we talked about finding who is, you know, if this happens to be a competitive season, great. But if it happens to be a loss season, who are you taking with you into next year where you expect to compete again? who is right who’s coming along for that journey, right? Because it’s not going to be this roster next year. I can guarantee you that there’s going to be players playing elsewhere, whether that’s in the NBA or another league elsewhere, they’re not going to be here in Boston who is going to be here. And I think, and again, it’s one game, it’s whatever many 23 minutes of of basketball for Gonzalez here in his NBA debut, but I think he did more more than enough to show that he can be a part of this rotation and contribute in winning ways. Now, I’d like to see the shot a little bit more over time, just to see what we’re kind of working with here, how that’s how that’s developing and and you know, especially at the NBA level. But I don’t want to force that, you know, until we get to that point. Let Derek White, let Brown, let Pritchard, let Hower, let them, you know, get, you know, Simons, who’s obviously a great outside shooter, let them put the shots up. As far as I’m concerned, Gonzalez, be active, create turnovers, get out on the break, find the open guy, do the dirty work because, yeah, you know, you’re a rookie, kid. Like, by the way, carry everybody’s bags out to the bus after, too. Like, you’re like that’s your role on this team. And so that’s the huge really single bright spot if you want to talk about, you know, positives from this night is that um he’s already leaps ahead of some of these other guys uh towards the end of this bench. And this is a guy that you actually can try to build with. I’m not saying you’re going to build around him. I’m not saying he’s the next Tatum or anything like that, but he’s What is the Celtics team missing, Sean? It’s young talent. It’s it’s guys that they can draft and keep. Other than Pritchard, who who have you been able to do that for recently? Yeah. You haven’t had many shots at that. No. So, this might be this might be the next guy that you can do that with. And so, let’s take that positive. How about that? Friday night, huh? I’ll buy that. I’ll buy that. I’ll buy that. uh because frankly it’s it’s getting it’s going to be difficult for Celtics Nation this season uh because they’ve grown accustom to double duty winning streaks and and and and only winning like 52 53 games uh and it’s going to be tough but we’ll find out we’ll find out very soon you know what this team is made of. Obviously, the next game isn’t going to be the be all end all, but every game that gets them closer towards the end of the season, I think a layer of who they are is peeled back and revealed. Uh, and and that’s, you know, again, as you’re as they’re trying to figure out how to just kind of, you know, jumpst start winning games, uh, it’s important, it’s going to be very important for them to be authentic, uh, and in what they’re looking to do and and things of that nature. Um, but uh this was this game was not fun, Jimmy. Not fun at all. Not fun at freaking all. Let me ask you this. Is this this game not being fun? Is that is that because of the Celtics or because of the Knicks? I would say that it’s more because of the Celtics. Why is that? I didn’t Well, I didn’t think this the Knicks did anything all that particularly special. Um, I thought a lot of the the the issues that the the Celtics had were just their own personal mismanagement of moments. Um, it’s just they have to be they not only do they have to be competitive, but when they have a team that is showing some clear vulnerability, they need to be able to pounce on that. Like the Knicks, this was not a good game for the Knicks. They they did a great job in terms of, you know, what do good teams do, Sherrod? They find ways to win even when they Exactly. They basically the Celtics got Celtic tonight by the Knicks. Uh this is what they did in the past. You know, they play a team that they’d be favored to win by 20. Game would be toss up in the first three quarters. They win by 15. And that’s the tough You kind of just nailed it. That’s the tough part is the Celtics are now the team that the Celtics used to just be able to beat by kind of just like showing up doing a few frustrating things, but ultimately they’re just too talented to lose, you know, to a team that really is a fringe playoff team at best. That’s kind of, you know, how this game went. And I guess the saving greaser is that the Celtics didn’t play well either. It wasn’t like the Celtus gave you the best shot and still came up short. It was that, you know, they didn’t have it tonight either offensively. You know, starting at the top. Um, we got a couple super chats here that I want to I want to go to before Bobby and Bobby and Noah jump on here. Our good friend John John John who’s got the burger John’s got the burger uh the burger I guess you got like a burger cart. I don’t know the exact term, John. You can correct me on that. But I think we got to do a CLNS garden report. You know, we’ll do a we’ll do we’ll we’ll we’ll do a live show at the I think we do some kind of live show at the eat some burger. Anyways, John says soft tank let’s go. Crazy how 278 and six doesn’t just appear out of thin air, huh? I guess he actually is the Celtics best player. Wow. I don’t know if that’s a shot at anybody, but I think if you underappreciated Tatum, and I’m not saying that a lot of people did, but if you did, this might be a season where that appreciation uh shows itself a little bit. Um, but John’s in on the soft tank. Um, I think you’re going to find some other people in John’s boat at some point. Jared Scott, thank you as well. Simons should replace Pritchard in the starting lineup. I had a I had a buddy text a buddy text me tonight saying the same exact thing. Shout out my buddy Dave. already thinking that it might not listen, we can agree that Pritchard has not been shooting well to start the season. Is that whether whether that is due to him being in the starting lineup or not? Sherrod, do you see a situation that Joe gets a little creative here with some of the lineups and says, you know, Pritchard was six man of the year. He obviously excels in that role. Of course, it’s a different roster and there’s different players around him regardless of whether he’s starting or coming off the bench this time, but does it get to a point where Missoula says, “Why don’t we just try putting him back in the six-man role and see how he does coming into the game a few minutes in?” He’s still going to get, you know, the same amount of playing time, let’s say, but maybe it’s just in different intervals, uh, different, you know, opposing players, different parts of the game. And maybe Simons is a guy that, you know, maybe he’s better starting the game, getting a couple early shots off, try to get in some sort of rhythm since he’s, you know, a volume three-point shooter. Is there something to be said about that possibility? There there there is uh there is but this I’m telling you this this team they they have to get the biggest some of the biggest questions marks that we’ve had with this team and it it goes it’s a more of a team question than an individual one is consistency chemistry compete level those are to me if this team is going to have any shot of being more than expected they’re going to have to excel in those three areas and and what we’ve seen Jimmy and these first couple games is we’ve seen guys in what what can I think be described as elevated roles. Derek White, you’re no longer the third or fourth or fifth option. You’re the number two guy. Uh you know, and and you look at Simons, no longer are you getting out there with the first unit ready to drop 20. You’re good coming off the bench where on a good night you might get 15. guys are there’s definitely some adjustment going on with the roles that they’re going to play, but uh I just um I I just don’t get a feel that the Celtics are going to get appreciably better as the season goes on. Uh because they’re still going to be smaller than most teams. And and I will say this, the decision to have Buchche out there, I think uh for for some pretty long stretches versus the other two bigs, I think you you’ve got to play a style that gives you the best shot of winning. Uh I thought Joe Missoula did some really good coaching things here because they knew New York wanted to run a lot of pick and roll and they had uh you know, the way they set their defense up was when they would run the pick and roll with Brunson, he would have a guard on him. Uh that’s that’s when you see guys like Jaylen Brunson guarding like Cap because if they run the pick and roll uh Jaylen switches out and so now you you know you got to beat him off the dribble if you’re Brunson. Uh so I thought from a X’s and O’s standpoint I thought there was a lot that the Celtics did that was good. But again the rebounding the transition defense uh bench scoring I think is is another one that was that certainly didn’t help. I mean, I think they made two or three scores. Uh, so, you know, there’s definitely some work for them to do going forward. To me, the silver lining in all this is that we’re so early in the season, they could easily turn things around and shock the world, but right now, they just got to find a way to play a little bit more consistently and seal the deal when they’re in position to win a game. And speaking of shock the world, Bobby Manning with that beautiful beard. It’s growing in, my friend. It’s It’s Is that a Is that a regular It’s a regular season beard because I don’t know if we’re growing playoff beards, by the way. This season has started for I’m gonna keep it until they get a win. Okay. How about that? Okay. Okay. Well, you know, they play I might have said that one in the chat, Bobby. I might have said it in the text chat rather than put that on actual uh Yeah. Okay. So cue the 2000 the 2007 19g game losing streak. Sherrod Q. So we still need to do a poll in the chat. I’ve been asking a lot of people about it. But anyway, I don’t think you’ll like what they say. Let’s just uh let’s people say I’m just interested. Good. And you shouldn’t you should def you should do be you, Bobby. Be you. Absolutely. So that’s fitting for what I’m about to talk about here because I was asking all the guys, I was asking Joe after the game and it felt kind of weird because they’re just 0 and2, right? And you you were just saying to Jimmy, they could figure it out here and turn things around and they’ve won five out of the eight quarters or whatever it is. Like there’s a lot you can look at right now and say, “Okay, maybe this maybe this turns around.” But the the stretches they’ve gone on where they’ve lost some of the devastating like the fourth quarter against Philly and obviously the second quarter here tonight that lost them this it does have to be setting in for the new guys or for the guys who have been here a little bit like this year is about to be different like you know this is much different. Is that the vibe you’re getting you’ve been at both games? I was feeling I was feeling out that vibe. I want to see where they were at with it. And for Joe, I think it’s setting in a little bit. Like there does have to be a balance between the high expectations and knowing that younger guys, less experienced guys on this roster just aren’t going to get it right away. And I think you’ve seen it. You guys play sound. He’s not freaking out. He’s not, you know, going to war with us about what we’re saying and, you know, just having these back and forths. He understands what this is going to be here. And he’s still, you know, pulling guys in and out of games, still being tough on them, but I don’t think it’s getting to him. And again, we’re two games in the way we thought it might have. Um maybe he got all out of his steam in the preseason and the media game, but I sense a calm and patience from him. Um I think he said something to the effect, and I I don’t have the quote exactly like there’s got to be an urgency and a patience. Um something to that effect. And I think that’s where they’re all at. Like they know this thing could go off the rails pretty quickly here. We’ve acknowledged it as well when we look at the schedule over the next week or two. But there has to be a patience, too. And I said all summer, I expect a bad start. Like, how could you not? Where are you middle of the season, later the season? And I asked Noah, who who’s waiting by here to join? Um, are we going to have a feel for where this team’s at? Um, you know, I asked after our last game though, are we going to have a feel for where this team’s at two weeks in? And I’m with you. I don’t think we will. Like if this is a brutal two week stretch here and it’s looking like it could be, I don’t think that’s necessarily going to tell the tale of where they’re at later in the year, but you can’t start 0 and6 or 0 and seven or you know some of the worst case scenarios you can think of here. No, here is Mo here. Mo is here. Yes, Mo is I thought Mo might like my background. Yeah. Uh Mo Mo is fans are gonna hate this. Noah, I intentionally made Noah go to the Nick side. Yeah, I don’t mind it. She’s at the podium. Um, any questions for Noah after 105 already jumping off the ship 95 win. She’s on the Knicks bandwagon, I guess. So, um, Noah, Bobby, both of you guys, you know, me and Sher have been talking for a bit about this game. We talked a lot of negatives. Um, before we get into the positives, what are some of the takeaways from this game? We we know about the infamous second quarter. Is there something about that quarter? And we did hear Joe um after, but we couldn’t hear the questions as well. So, um if you guys could enlighten us enlighten us on maybe what Joe had to say about what went wrong in that second quarter and maybe what went right for them in the third differences there. What start with Noah? How about that? I felt like you were the teacher. It’s like a ninepart question. Um, I think the biggest thing in this game, my Gary Washburn question. If I had to pick one thing, it would be just I think across the game was the rebounding, which we knew going into the season just based off roster construction was going to be a challenge. Um, we knew based off preseason that even after wins there was a massive rebounding disparity. And I think there was a 21 offensive rebounds for the Knicks, six for Josh Hart and six for who was the other guy with six on the Knicks? Carl Anthony Towns offensive rebounds. So like that that I think that’s kind of where the game was lost on the glass. Even in the second half where they were making a push, there were multiple times where they had multiple offensive, you know, offensive rebounds on a possession. And the Knicks didn’t even convert them super well. I think they were five of 17 on second chance points. So they it could have been worse, but that’s going to continue to be a theme. And I thought Joe gave a pretty transparent answer postame about the factors that go into minimizing that. And it’s not just crashing the glass, but it’s getting more of your own offensive rebounds. It’s not turning the ball over. Like, there are things that put them out of position. But I couldn’t help but think there was also because of the style of defense that they’re playing right now, they are finding themselves scrambling more than they would when they were just playing. Oh, did we lose Noah? It’s like maybe you did recover. Oh, he back. Um Oh, you got me. We lost you for a second. just the def I think that the defensive system puts them a little bit out of position already and then they’re also a little bit undersized. So Jaylen’s brought that up after both games that that’s a challenge. That’s something that they’re going to have to deal with. And I said this to you, Jimmy. Um I texted you during this during the game too because I know you were interested in this, but the fact that this team’s going to give up threes this year because they’re scrambling around because they’re throwing extra help in the lane. I thought the Knicks keyed into that uh pretty uh you know precisely throughout the game. Like they were on it where the help was coming from. They were getting shots out of the corners. They were getting shots above the break when it was coming from there. And they hit a lot of threes in this game. Um so that’s something they’re balancing here. It’s great that they’re forcing a lot of turnovers. I like the defensive activity, but it’s coming at the cost of a lot of three-pointers. And maybe we can sit here and say there’ll be some teams that aren’t as good at shooting or there’ll be some bad shooting nights in the other direction um that they’ll take advantage of and that’ll sort itself out and their opponents will risk to the mean. I would I would have to guess if we were looking at the expected shooting so far for the Knicks and the Sixers, it wouldn’t be as good as it’s been here. But you’re going to ride that wave a little bit this year if you’re giving up a lot of three-point attempts of other team gets hot and hits them all, other team cools down and they win on that. And that’s the ride they’ve been waving offensive. That’s the um wave they’ve been riding offensively for a while here obviously, right? Make miss threes. That’s actually the wave they’re going to be riding defensively this year. It feels like because they’re going to give up a lot of three-pointers. How many open threes were the Knicks shooting in this game? It was a ton. Yeah, it was. Um what did you guys think about the lack of transition basketball from Boston? I mean, all going into the regular season, what were you saying, Bobby? They’re going to run. They’re going to get on the break. They’re going to maximize uh field goal attempts. And then tonight, how was that fast break? Yeah, the fast break points differential was stagger. They couldn’t get a rebound, Jimmy. How do you get on the break if you don’t get a rebound? Now, they forced turnovers, too, and didn’t turn them into points, but So, how do you fix it? How do you get rebounds? Joe talked about being more physical, it looked like, at the podium. Is that something that you guys noticed out there that they were just out muscled? I don’t know what you can do, Noah. I like they’re playing small. They’re they don’t have a lot of good rebounders on the floor. Like this is going to just keep killing them. They’re going to be a bottom rebounding team. Yes. But the disparity today was massive. Like it was 53 to 37 in total rebounds in this game. So, wow. Look, I think we can absorb some of that is just roster construction and that’s the way it’s going to be and they have to give something up and they have advantages in other areas, but it’s not going to be like that. You know, tonight’s not going to work for them all season long. And I think you heard both Joe and Jaylen acknowledge that postgame. Jaylen acknowledged that there were some that were long that just kind of like slipped through their hands, but there’s some that they have to be nastier on the glass. That’s what he said, right? And um I think you saw that. So to me, like I I think that’s the number one thing that I take away from both of these games so far is that that’s going to continue to be an issue. But it’s not at all a surprise. I mean, this was literally the number one topic of discussion before the season even started. I think where they lost a little bit of, you know, where as far as where there’s some variability, you look at like Peyton Pritchard and Derek White, I I think you’re typically going to get more from those two on an average night. Like they combined for four of 18 from three and they had a lot of good looks in this game. Um, and they’re an elite shooting backhoe. Like we can we can argue about the threes, we can argue about whatever, but like those two guys have consistently shot the ball. Well, um, and so that’s where I think like, you know, that, you know, where can they get more on the roster from? Like that’s certainly one area. Let me ask you since you since you brought him up, Noah Pton Pritchard uh, tonight struggled um, two of 10 from the field, one of seven from three. uh this after a Wednesday game where he he particularly wasn’t great either. Anything to read into that? I mean, again, we understand we’re two two games into the season here, but we’re going off of what we’re seeing. That’s all we can really do. He’s now in the starting lineup. Are you Bobby, Noah, Sherrod, anybody not I already asked Sherrod this, but are you noticing a different approach to his game being that he’s in the starting lineup or is this just just simply getting adjusted to new teammates more so than a new role? I think there’s Peyton Pritchard. I can say from from my standpoint, Jimmy, because I feel like I need to I need to answer for Peyton just in general. But you did bring him into this. It’s a combination of things. One is he’s in a shooting slump. You go back to pre even since preseason. Like he’s been in a shooting slump and as a rule, I don’t overreact to shooting slumps of guys that have consistently been good shooters in their NBA careers. Like we can do this when Sam Hazer has his inevitable shooting slump later in the season and be like, “Oh, what happened to Sam? He’s two for his last 30.” And like we know Sam Hazer is a great shooter and he’ll bounce back as he had a great shooting game tonight, right? So that’s that’s the first thing is that regardless of role, regardless of bench, starter, whatever else, he is in a shooting slump right now. Um, and I would imagine that ends. Two years ago, he started the season even worse shooting wise. It was like a disaster from him offensively and he was still on the floor because Joe trusted him in other areas. Uh, the jury’s out to me about whether he is better as a starter or coming off the bench. Like obviously Anthony Simons has started every game for the last three years and Peyton Perch has basically come off the bench and they’ve switched that heading into this season and Joe told us that substitution patterns could change and starting lineups are subject to change and I would not be surprised if they tried at some point Anthony Simons as a starter and Pritchard as a bench if this continues. Same thing with maybe you know maybe you bring Chris Buchchet in at some point like I think there’s a lot of tinkering that could still happen. Um ultimately Anthony Simons has been playing basically starter level minutes. He had 27 minutes in this game. Um, so that I I don’t know. I mean, he said it himself last year. He was great off as a starter and it was one game that he came off the bench and he struggled and we’re not gonna overreact to that game plus these two. But, you know, if it if it extends for the next few weeks, maybe you do look at potentially him coming off and and playing that role. But to me, a lot of the misses from both of these games was just he just missed shots. Like I I don’t think it was necess. Uh yeah, I don’t think it’s I don’t think we need to like overreact to that either. It looked like he was being defended pretty heavily too in this one, right? He’s facing a lot of pressure and I thought that was going to be something that it would be intriguing to watch this year is him actually catching more opponents. What did Doc say last year? I had his name circled. I told them Payton Pritchard. Not many teams were doing that though. uh actually, you know, whether they were talking about it or not, like he was breaking free, getting open shots. Now he’s someone that you’re scouting for, that you’re planning for being a significant part of what this team’s doing here. So, he’s dealing with that. Everybody’s dealing with that to some degree. Um especially for a guy who likes to dribble and create his own shot. Um I think that’s going to be something that he works on throughout this season to improve at. Um I do have a thought on the starting lineup thing, but first I just saw this from Grandandy. The second quarter was the worst quarter loss in Celtics history. Wow. Really? Damn. 28 points. That’s kind of shocking to me. Is that Is that real? 28 point quarter loss is a lot. Like that’s a lot. Drew worst quarters. I know. That’s why I’m like I’m I’m pausing at that. But I mean it it was a really bad second quarter, don’t get me wrong. Um, and I thought the last couple minutes were just atrocious basketball. Sloppy by Boston to allow the Knicks to go up by 20 there. It felt like it was like a 12-point game, then all of a sudden it was a 20point game. Um, and I knew I knew this was going to be a bad m, you know, Noah hates when I say it, you know, there’s no chance they’re winning this one. They’re definitely losing this one, but that’s just wrong. He’s like, it’s over. No, before the game. Before the game started. the game like there’s no way he looks at games on the schedule and he’s like automatic loss, automatic win. It’s like you can’t it’s the reason I inbessect He was right. He was right. No, but that’s not how it works. They had no chance when you look back on it. Um maybe if everyone on the Knicks just uh you know got sick in the middle of the game and had a lead. But sure, um, you know, the the the problem I had with this matchup for them is the rebounding you knew was going to be monstrous from the Knicks. Like that’s just something they do great. So this is an extreme version of this, you know, kind of losses the Celtics going to suffer on that end. You know, they’re aggressive defensively, disrupt and get out on the run. Like we watched it in the playoff series. As much as the Celtics are a completely different team and the Knicks have tinkered and gotten a new coach here, like they do this stuff hard. uh towns being aggressive like you know some of the on ball defenders they have like this is a vicious physical fast aggressive team and where the Celtics are weak right now they were perfectly suited to expose that so you know Jimmy as much as like I’m sure you were in agony watching this I texted you and was like this this might be the best team in the east so you know Philly we have no idea right let’s see where they might be the best team in the east Bobby but I would not to cut you off but they didn’t even play that kid tonight Right. No, they didn’t. But I thought I I thought when the Celtics played well, it was Boston doing some good things, too, though. Like I don’t think like when the Celtics went on some runs there and had some good moments, that was all the Knicks just letting up and fooling around. I think the Celtics have done some good things for stretches here. Um it just can it all connect in No way. I mean, you you were looking at a lot of the rotations and substitutions throughout this game. Um we like is it being tough on guys? is is it pulling them out when they’re making mistakes or are they searching right now? Because this was an even more extreme example of Joe going deeper into his rotation and subbing guys in and out than what we even saw on opening night and even in the preseason. I felt like Yeah, I didn’t think that the first quarter hockey subs was him being tough on guys because they were playing well in that first stint. I think it’s just he’s trying to he’s searching for something. He’s trying out different things. like it’s very unorthodox to do what he did in the middle of that first quarter where you bring in five completely new players and honestly it kind of worked. I mean they that was a good quarter. They what were they up by eight entering the second? I was almost like does Joe did Joe find something with switching bringing in a brand new five that have more opportunities and chemistry together potentially? Um and then obviously that first quarter didn’t end up become becoming so relevant by the time we got to halftime. But that actually went the other direction because it wasn’t like he was punishing those five guys. Right. No. Right. I think I think I mean he did hint at it in the in the in the preseason there. I did find it to be probably unnecessary. Um but I think to your guys’s point, he looks down at the bench and he sees basically like seven through 12 could be anybody on any given night at this point, right? I mean, I think guys are going to slowly maybe slot into their roles on the depth chart. And one of those guys I I want to sort of lead into right now. Um, you guys are talking about possible starting lineup changes. I got people all over the place saying start this guy right here. If I can put this up on the screen if this works. I thought it was crazy to say he might average 15 minutes a game. Huh, Jimmy? How about I never said it was crazy though. I never Well, John’s on here and you’re you’re the closest thing to John right now. No. Ouch. careful. It’s on Twitter. I really think that Ugo Gonzalez is going to become a great NBA player. I don’t think we need to use these tweets like I said something so profound that we’re living. Listen, we’re giving you Listen, we’re leading. We’re using that as our leadin, Noah, to the Yugo segment that I know everybody wants to have. everybody. Uh we’re trying to find some silver linings in tonight’s game and I think we got a big one tonight with his performance. So no, we’ll start with you since it was one of your bold predictions that he was going to um I mean basically you said rookie of the year is you were close to saying that. So I did not you would have said that you Mr. They don’t make a single two-point shot the entire game. That’s still possible. There’s a lot of games left to play. Honestly, you have the floor on Ugo. I love Ugo. I mean, I felt this way from preseason. It’s not about he’s scoring the ball incredibly well or even like nothing on the box score jumps out at you, but watching him play, I think we can all I think everybody I’ve talked to, media members, everybody, like he has it. He just has this feel for the game, especially on the defensive end, but honestly, offensively, he’s not as behind as I thought he would be considering how young he is and how he really wasn’t advertised as a huge defend as a offensive player. Like, he just has it. and to come into make your NBA debut at Madison Square Garden basically with a team already losing by quite a bit and really struggling because you that was really where he played the bulk of his minutes was in that second half like he brought a level of intensity and tenacity on that end that nobody else really had and Jaylen said it postgame he was like it can’t just just be the rookie you know u but credit to him for coming in and playing with that pace and um this is what we’ve seen from him really all of preseason as well so summer league I think you saw flashes of it and Samers that this game, but I think training camp and really getting up to speed with the system made a huge difference for him because when we saw him again eight weeks later, to me, he looked very different on that end. Um, and this is why a lot of people had projected him to be a lottery pick before last year and why some people thought he was a steal in this draft was because a year ago, everybody thought he was going to be a top 10 pick and then he just doesn’t play at Real Madrid, right? But he’s still the same guy with the same physical abilities. So that’s my number one takeaway from this game is if we’re thinking about the future like I think this guy is going to be a important part of the Celtics future. Go ahead. You got it, Bobby. I I was going to say his stoicism um impresses me too. Like he’s not getting caught away with this being his first night. Uh did you guys listen to his sound? No. Oh, incredible sound. He all time sound. It’s on it. I’m on it. he wasn’t getting caught up in this moment like he was tough on himself for losing. Didn’t want to celebrate his first game because they lost. And then I asked him, you know, how do you become such a good defender? Because I think we all came out of this game saying, “Wow, that was great defense from him. Great energy.” And he was like, I’m not going to talk about being a good defender on a night. Brunson scored 30. U so we we learned that about him in summer league that he’s tough on himself, holds himself to a high standard. Um definitely a reason Joe likes him. But that impressed me postgame and even before the game because I went into the locker room, he was hanging out in there and I, you know, talked to him for a couple minutes. Um, just because I think we were all a little confused by that moment, Jimmy, where he went to the um scores table on opening night and then had to walk back and um, you know, like I said, it it was about matchups. It was about flow of the game. Like sometimes things don’t come together in those. And he responded pretty well to that. No, I remember like him. He just kind of like joged to the bench and like had, you know, almost a little grin on his face and, you know, just kept his energy up. So, high. The guy’s professional and it it it, you know, it it shows when we talk to him, it um shows on the court, the way he handles himself clearly. You look at his his body and his physique like that looks profession professional, too. And I think like we’ve all said that puts him in a better position even though he’s young to succeed immediately with this team because he’s been through big games. Even tonight he got asked about the atmosphere and was he nervous and he was like no I’ve played in big arenas all over Europe. Um so it was impressive. Like that’s the word I just keep using with him over and over and over again. I’m so impressed because we didn’t know anything about him. No one even heard of him. He didn’t play over there. Like this is all a pleasant surprise for everybody. I’m sure even the Celtics who as we’ve said uh we’re probably expecting him to be in Maine this year and that does not look like it’s going to happen right now. Yeah. Well, the the surprise I I think for for the Celtics with with Hugo uh you have to be it’s relative to where they got him. I mean, if if he were a top 10 pick and he played like this, we would be like, “Oh, okay. Well, yeah, this is this is what you’re supposed to do when you’re picked that high.” But the fact that he was picked, you know, near the end of the first round, a late first round pick where guys are fortunate enough to just, you know, actually be on the active roster and not with the G-League affiliate is is is a a victory of sorts. And the fact that he’s going to play, there’s no doubt he’s going to play. Uh because the things that he does, you can’t replicate energy. Uh you either play with great energy or you don’t. It’s not something that you can just kind of put put in a bottle, put a package on it and ship it to to whoever it needs to go to and it’s going to be there. And that’s what they need because right now they don’t have the ability to have guys that when they go into games, if this guy wins his matchup or if if the better player at that position performs well, the Celtics win. Because mo many positions now, they don’t have the advantage at that position. So that you’re going to need wild cards. You’re going to need X factors. You’re going to need guys like like Ugo to come in there, cause a little chaos, and give you your team a chance to win and and be be a agitator disruptor. I love the fact that he spent a lot of time guarding Brunson. That is going to help. Amazing. Talk about impressive. That’s your first NBA matchup for the most part tonight. Unreal. Yeah. And they Sorry, Sh. What were you saying? No, I was just going to say and he didn’t get smoked. I mean, Brunson made tough shots, but that’s what you want. I mean, if he’s going to make shots, make sure that you’re contesting them and making him shoot uh in as uncomfortable situation and surroundings as possible. And I thought Ugo, for the most part, did did that. I thought he was doing the best he could, putting a body on Brunson, and he wasn’t getting any whistles, that’s for sure. Nothing was going his way. Um, so I do, you know, hats off to Ugo. I I want to see I I said this to Shred early in the show. I want to see the shot a little bit, you know? I want to see what we’re working with here in terms of the jump shot because ultimately that’s going to make or break his career, right? You know, I love the effort. I love that he’s a kind of a pest out there and he’s all over the place and that’s what you want to see out of a out of a uh you know, a bench player who’s trying to carve a role for himself and just affect winning basketball in any way he can. Now, we do have some of that Ugo sound that you guys mentioned. We’re going to go to that right now and see what he had to say after this game in his NBA debut. It’s all good. All good. Uh we got the win and most important thing. I was we were playing good basketball today. We’re trying to um make the things that we doing in practice. I’m hoping that we’ll be in practicing a lot. Happy first win, but still preseason still need to figure out a lot of things. Did the level feel noticeably different from the other league? I mean, of course, it’s a race top level, I would say. Um, also different pace. We want to play with a pace that not much team want to play like uh we want to make them uncomfortable. So, probably also apart from the highest level, we also have groups. Hold on. I don’t think this is from tonight. Feel like you were able to show what you what I mean. I don’t think this is tonight. This is not from Where is it from? I don’t know. Damn it. Hey, I was looking at like the whiteboard. I was like, “Wait, that’s not new.” Okay. I was I was like I must be tripping out. So, I just didn’t see anything. I didn’t know what’s Dude, listen. I’m like Ron. Listen, I’m Ron B, guys. You put something in front of me. I’m hitting play. I just saw Ugo. Oh my god. Well, the problem was I I couldn’t really hear it that well, so I didn’t know exactly what he was even saying. It’s an all time It’s an alltime garden report fail. And the fail is on our part, Bobby, because he he did four questions before either of us said. Yeah, where where are our reporters? There we go. There’s telling us that, you know, that wasn’t the right one. We got the one of it. All right, let’s try this again. Wow. us a game that we can uh where you can work on the details that what is going on here. Listen, it’s it’s all good. Okay, let’s see if we can get you any nerves. Uh well, lucky for me, I got experience in other arenas in Europe that are crazy. So, that place in that place in my side, but yeah, of course, that’s making my NBA it is that’s something that happens every day. Did Joe tell you something before the game, before you went in of what he wanted to see from you? No, just play with energy. Um, yeah, play with energy, I would say. What are you trying to do against you trying to take away when you pick him up? Well, against a player like that, you can’t do many things. You just can’t try to make him feel uncomfortable and he still uh a really good game. So we got to still focusing on on our defensive end and then how we are able to run it. How did you become such a good defender? Like what would you credit? Well um I would say Bobby already crowning him 30 points today. So it’s not the day to say that I’m a great player. Seriously. But still, I’m just I try to have my energy and to have uh whatever Joe is asking me to do. That’s my that’s my job right now, so I’ll do it every time. You said you guys are still working on the details. What does that look like getting better game to game? Like it seems like you guys are really honing in on those at certain points, but then other times it goes away. Like what goes into doing it consistently? Well, we’re uh when I said we’re focusing the details, it’s not process, but something that It’s going to be for all 82 games. We want to uh have our basics and then focus on our details. Uh because at the end of the day, details is what wins the games, you know. So, basically having those uh details, rotations, personnel, whatever um to to make plays and we need at the end. Was there anything that surprised you tonight? Well, I would say it was a physical game. Um two teams uh that really want to win, really competitive team. Thanks. Thank you. All right. That was Ugo Gonzalez. The correct uh correct video. Let me get that off the screen here. Um I gotta guys, we we we got to interrupt this this segment to put up this super chat that we just I was going to say since we’re talking about the young guys, um, a massive shout out to I don’t even know how to say this. Derek W Kimedit some something like that. 200 bones. Wow. Split, guys. There’s no country code on the back of that. So, this is like USD. That’s USD. This isn’t like the stuff we get sometimes from Timbuktu. No offense to the people out there. We love We We love We love I don’t even know where that is. He says, “Need to play the young guys. I’m going to need much more Ugo until JT comes back. Drinks and vegan pizzas.” No, on me. Thank you very much for that. We are going I don’t know what’s better, the $200 or the vegan pizza. The $200. You you can get a pretty good vegan pizza for that money, Noah. So, I had vegan pizza at MSG tonight. It It sounds like dinner on Derek. So, we do appreciate that, Derek. You know, we tried vegan pizza in Memphis. Does that mean that we all have to have dinner together? No, it does. It’s not worth it in that case. Like, absolutely not. Come on, Shir. Come on. Sh. Did we share? Also, Bobby, can you can you tell can you confirm that uh vegan pizza is not cardboard? It was good today. I didn’t love it. Okay. What goes into vegan pizza? Mute mute. Mute him. Yeah, he’s out. Is it just like cauliflower or something? Oh, and he’s gone. Did you do that? Sorry. No. And then you swore. She totally did that. Sorry. Look at I get no respect as the host. People are just pushing buttons, removing people, muting people. Bobby’s muted here. All right, let’s reel it in for a second. I’m going to put the chat of staying up for a minute. Is there some truth to what Derek is saying that maybe it’s just a young guy season, you know? Give me give me Ugo, give me I mean, unfortunately, there’s not a lot more young guys to really care about playing, but do we just want to see more Cowbell? Is that what we’re looking for here? We got to have more Kyle Bell, right? Bobby is muted. Noah muted him. That’s what happened. You got to play. Now we know why. You got to play guys who are playing good. And how many guys off the bench are playing good right now? Like there aren’t many. So that’s a default. Not saying you got to start them, but as this year goes on, you’re going to adjust and probably settle into some rotations. And listen, it’s one game. Who knows how it’s going to look over an extended stretch here. But the energy he played with is something you can do consistently. And it was so disrupted. There was like a three-play stretch there where he was getting either deflection or forcing a bad pass or just doing something uh to increase their defensive activity. So, it’s a no-brainer right now. I mean, who do you like more than him right now off the bench among the wings? Like even Buchet to me high hopes for hasn’t given them much. So, tonight. How many how many minutes did he play tonight? 22. 22. I mean, that’s going to that’s going to happen if he’s playing well. Like, it’s it’s going to be there for him every night. So, he might average 15 minutes a game. Is that what you’re saying, Bobby? That might that might not be so bold after all, will it? I mean, it was a tough start with zero, but 22 gets you a little closer. Yeah. you know, um let’s just say that the bench was playing good. Bobby, is this just one of those seasons though that you know, why not play play the kids as John would be screaming right now if he was on? No, I mean they’re not playing Walsh. They’re not playing Shyman. So, you have to earn it and he earned it tonight. There might be a point where that changes. Like if they’re having a terrible season and you know they’re not in the playoff mix, there might be a point where they do kind of just give Jordan and Baylor and some of the more recent draft picks to young guys more run, but they’re not going to panic at this point in the season. I mean, yes, they lost these two games, but they easily could have won both of these games if a couple things go differently. And I don’t think it was it’s been all bad. And I honestly don’t think they’ve played that well considering like what what we what would they have. So that could change, but they’re they’re they’re trying to win every game right now. Like Joe’s not going to just like play the young guys because the in the big picture like that would be good for their development. You know, Derek gets all the posts he wants tonight. So um I’m just going to post all his super chats. Um okay, so big night for big night for Ugo. That’s kind of the silver line in this one. We do have some Jaylen Brown sound, guys. And we are we can’t do a show without getting to Jaylen Brown. Is it worth playing the Jaylen Brown stud? Were you guys there for that? Did he have anything to say? You can play the first game. Cut it. Yeah. Couple couple questions. People don’t want I don’t want to waste time fight. We’ll see what you got a lot of chances tonight. Even though um New York felt like they were in control striking distance. Um and we make a couple shots, get a couple rebounds, and some other plays go our way. We’re right in the game. So, um, we just got to keep our our our head up and get get better every single every single game. I got some stuff that I see that I can work on and see how to get other guys open and find them easier looks. So, I’m learning, too. I’m learning in this this new role. I’m trying to find ways to make everybody around me better. How much does it help that you’ve been through so many experiences in your career? Like, do you look back to certain points where you might have gone through struggles or just seen good career work as a team? Yeah. Uh, yeah. And when adversity happens, that’s where you get to, you know, step up and show, you know, your leadership. We got some good talent on this team. Um, and tonight wasn’t our best night, but we get ready for the next one. Watch some film. You know, I got opportunities to get better. You know, for me, I got to play a little bit better, make it easier for some guys, and we got to have a little bit more structure organization. I think New York did a good job being physical and kind of knocking things off. But, you know, it’s a long journey. We got to get better every single day. What did you like about what Ugo brought for you guys today? Yeah, Ugo is looking great, man. Ugo’s playing with energy. He’s playing with fight. Um that’s the type of that’s the type of mentality mentality that we need. He’s picking up guys. I like what I seen him how he was guarding um some of the other team’s best players. Um and we need we need more of that. We need more of what he got. Can’t be just from the rook. Is it a time to be patient, Jaylen, or a time to be urgent or some combination thereof? What do you feel like but you and what the context just in general you guys like as you’re finding that identity are you are you feeling urgent at Owen 2 are you feeling like patience is called for because you’re figuring each other out it’s both I think patience and urgence I think we are um this is a good test for us to kind of see where we’re at. Um we learning from every film session I’m learning how to you know find guys in rhythm, how to get guys going and etc. So uh tonight we wasn’t our best outing. we were a little bit out of sync. It was, you know, you know, the spacing wasn’t wasn’t great, you know. So, we we just got to figure out how to put 48 minutes together. Um, so it’s urgency for sure, but it’s also a patience with this group. You know, it’s a lot of new guys on our team um that are, you know, figuring out how to be consistent in what our role is every single night. J, you has forced 20 turnovers. you you stop them from really shooting it pretty well. But the offensive rebounding, the fouls, what’s going to be kind of the navigating kind of those things that guard the way you do and if you have a good defensive night, but um they’re finding ways to score in other ways. How are you guys going to kind of navigate? Rebounding was a big one. You know, I got to do better get on the glass. You know, you just got to and a lot of them were long rebounds. They just kind of didn’t bounce go our way. We got to figure out how to come up with those. I think that was a big huge deflator for us when the other team we played good solid defense and then they uh get an offensive rebound and they get another attempt. Other than that, I thought our defense was not bad. How much did they finish with? 105 105 points. It’s not a bad defensive outing with all those rebounds and things that we gave up. So, we get better on the glass. We figure out some continuity. You know, we get on the same page on offense. I think uh you know we have a lot of potential and upside but you know we got some growth that needs to take place. I’m learning every single day. Um this is a good game to learn from. So I’m looking forward to the next one. There was a play there was a play. I’m sorry. All right. That’s enough Jaylen. I think we’re going to go from we’re gonna go from Jaylen right into this next segment. And it’s strictly by coincidence. If I can find it here. Tell me we have it. Tell me, dear God, that we have it. You have it, Jimmy. Hit me with it. Come on. Hit me with it. Dude, I got no respect. I was gonna say, damn, did she just disappear? Oh, well done. Uh, that was pretty good. Thank you. It’s that time of night, folks. Blame Noah’s favorite part of the show. This is Noah’s favorite part of the show. I’m told that Noah and Bobby have to dip out. So, we want we’re going to wrap things up right now. We’re gonna we’re going to do Blame Pie and then we’ll get them on air. Noah, I hate to say it, but this might be a Blame Pie heavy season. The way things are shaping up. Um, we’re not going to do it after every loss. We’re not going to do it after every loss, but I think we just need to get in the groove of of being able to dish the pie out. You know, it’s coming up on the holidays. It’s antithetical to the sport. It’s a team sport. It It just doesn’t make sense to slice it up. Some guys are It’s a team effort. Blame. Okay, I’ll go. All this all this yapping and no one’s even giving out blame right now. Who wants the last? Okay, Bobby, you go first. Last. So, I have to serve up a healthy slice for Pritchard so far to start the year. And I was high on him coming in. Um, rough debut. This is the gamewinner in the first game as well. And then tonight, two for 10. Just slow shooting. And it goes back to the preseason, too. I don’t have the numbers right in front of me of the cumulative, but um it’s probably like 20% I would guess in that range. So, um, he said after that Toronto game in the preseason, just, you know, poor shooting right now. Um, I’m sure getting used to the amount of minutes and the amount of things he has to do out there is biting into a little bit. I thought, you know, that hit White tonight too, to some degree. And this team just isn’t shooting great as a whole right now outside of a few guys. So, I’m going to give him I don’t want it to be too huge, but 33% for Pritchard. I will give That’s a big cut of the pie. That’s a big piece of pie. I will give um Bush let’s say wow he’s just he hasn’t given you anything through doesn’t really give me anything through two games here unbelievable had a couple blocks tonight yeah he was decent um it’s just the offense he doesn’t he doesn’t he doesn’t really give you much of anything on offense right now and obviously like they Jaylen said this too they they held the the Knicks to 105 here. They scored 95. Like they they needed more offense in this one as bad as the defense was at times. So, let me give him 33. Um, Buch is getting 33% of the plain pie. Yeah. I mean, I don’t want to What is it? Like I thought I thought You ever baked a pie before? Unbelievable. I thought like I thought Jaylen was fine in this one. Sam gave them a lot. like you know Kada I thought even was was pretty solid too in this one. Took a step like Tilman gave them some good minutes. Um finish your pie. I’m going to give the other I’m going to give the other 33 here to Derek. A lot of missed shots. Okay. Wow. It’s a three-way pot. Derek Pritchard. Bush and Pritchard. Poor Bucher guy can’t sift the court and he’s getting he’s getting one third of the blame. Damn. Sh. You want to go or you want me to go? You know what? Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Bobby enough time. We got I’m gonna fix it real quick. I didn’t want to put Jaylen in there, but I forgot about the turnover. So, let’s go 25. No, 33 Jaylen. 33 um Pritchard. And then are we whatever half of 33 is 16 and a half 16.5. Thank you. Thank you, professor. Um damn. So there you go. Bouche and white. Okay. Okay. That’s Sorry, I didn’t have brown in there and he should have been with the turnover. This is guys and for the record, this is why we do the blame pie early in the year. We we gota we got we cannot be having I went first. It’s hard going. Noah didn’t want to go first. Glad I’m here. Bobby, you you were like me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me. We’ve lost 15 viewers since the blame pie segment began because Bobby went on a you went on a a rant. Bobby, how does it feel to know that you’re costing the company? Bobby, it’s midnight. People going, you want to go? You can. I got it. All right. Here. Here we go. Uh 25% goes to Pritchard because Pritchard has been very bad among their big three. He’s been the worst of their big three. I give Jaylen Brown 20% because Jaylen Brown has been average, but they don’t they can’t win with average Jaylen Brown. His numbers, you look at his numbers, they’re good, but they need to be better. So 40 for five right now. Then I give another 20 to um Joe Zula. Um because He’s the coach. This is it’s this is this is on him. Uh there’s some decisions he’s made that haven’t quite worked out as well as they could have and should have. So, he gets 20%. And the remaining 35 I split between uh Derek White um and Jason Tatum because because he is kind of why we’re in this situation to begin. No, that is creative. I’m I’m giving Jay from Blame Prize all year. I’m gonna give Jason Tatum a like a He gets a sliver. He gets like 10%. He gets a celebrity slice and Bobb’s just disgusting. I didn’t take him this time. I didn’t leave by the Tatum slice. Um, I’ll go quickly, right? Yeah. I’ll go I’ll go quickly. I’m gonna I’m gonna do I’m gonna do 30% Jaylen Brown and he’s going to get the No, I’m going to do 40% Jaylen Brown and he’s going to get the biggest slice of everybody because he’s he’s your alpha this year. He’s your superstar. He’s your star. And I don’t know. I mean, I’m sure Noah and Bobby will get down to it. I don’t know if he’s dealing with anything physically. Obviously, we know about the hamstring a little bit. He just looks slow at there, Noah. Seven turnovers tonight. I don’t see the attack in him yet. And maybe he’s just ramping up for whatever reason. It’s a good thing I’m he gets a big slice of the blame pie because if this was the Jaylen Brown we all knew, we we would be in huge trouble. The hope is that he can elevate his game. So, he’s getting 40%. I’m gonna give 20% to Derek White because I feel like his his shots have been when he’s missing right now, he’s really missing. Some of his shots are just wildly off. He gets 20. So that puts us at 60. Pritchard’s going to get 30 because I agree with you Sherrod. He’s been pretty abysmal in his first two games shooting and he basically, you know, he’s out there because he can score in bunches, right? So I’m at 90%. And I’ll give the last percent um going to give the last percent last 10% to Missoula because this is a Missoula season, right? Uh he’s going to have to make a lot of adjustments, a lot of coaching changes, and I think he tried to do a little bit tonight. So, I’m not necessarily blaming him for the loss, per se, but I think that it’s on him to get these guys going. Bobb’s back and Noah. Bobby, you’re back just in time for Noah’s and then we’re going to get everybody out of here and uh and and we’ll see you all Sunday. Okay. 30% for Jaylen, 30% for Peyton, 30% for Derek. I think those three guys, okay, are are you you’re going to need more from on a typical night this season. Obviously, Derek and Peyton had offshooting nights. Jaylen with the turnovers. Um I’ll give maybe the last 10 to an Fernie Simons who has I know we haven’t talked about a whole lot. I actually like his intensity in this in so far this season. I actually like watching him play, but they need him to score more. They need him to be more aggressive and 10 points for him off the bench in 27 minutes. Like if that’s going to be his thing is, you know, he’s a bucket getter. It might not even be it might be more how he’s being used and more, you know, maybe he’s not being featured enough or they’re not looking for him enough, but you just you want him to be a bigger offensive contributor because there’s already a shortage of options. I was looking through the other guys. I honestly think Kada for for what it was gave you gave you a pretty good night. Sam Hower had a very good night. He was probably one one of the standouts here. Ugo standout. Xavier Tilman in his 13 minutes. I thought he did some good things. Got some offensive rebounds, made all three of his shots. So, um I I don’t I don’t want I never want to put the blame on just a few people, but those are the guys that I have the most faith in. So, they’re gonna always be held to the high standard, but this this is hard. They lost they lost pretty bad in this one all around. So, there’s a lot of blame to go around. Yeah, we we we could tell it was hard for you, man. Like you you like threw Buché under the bus. So, I’m pretty disappointed. I thought Bush actually I don’t know why Buché only played 15 minutes. I thought that he was one of the guys alongside Ugo that really kind of turned up the defensive intensity. So, like more. Yeah, I think he needs to play more and I think you’re going to see more for shaking up the rotation. Yeah, I I I think you know he’s got obviously NBA experience. He’s a guy that I think they’re going to eventually turn to a little bit more as as Joe Mazoula tries to round out this, you know, this rotation, get the depth chart in order, and get back to or get into, I should say, the win column as the Celtics drop this one 10595 to the Knicks. Once again, our show is brought to you by Prize Picks. Download Prize Picks and use the code cls to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $ five dollar lineup. Make sure you play your lineup on Sunday. Celtics, Pistons, I think that’s a 3:30 start. We will have you guys covered in full. We’ll be out there in Detroit. We’ll be here at home uh ready to talk about this game. Hopefully, Delus can win this one or we’re going to be stuck watching Bobby’s beard continue to grow, which I don’t think anybody wants to see. Um we will sign off from here, guys. I’m it. Hit me with the outro. Please hit me with the eyes.

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21 comments

  1. My questions is… what do you expect? It’s 2 games in. Lower talent teams take a while to figure it out. No lower talent team horse ground running. So many things to work through, they are working through them.

  2. If mazulla could get his hands on MPJ that’s a top 20 player and no one has noticed Claxton is developing a corner 3.. I’m sure Brad will make a move for JB eventually but probably not this one

  4. Totally agree that we want aggressive Jaylen. I think it’s coming. I think he’s figuring out what he has around him right now more than anything. Surveying.

  5. Also gotta remember Jaylens job is a lot harder than Jayson’s was. Whites is harder than browns was… the talent around these guys this year is a fraction of what it’s been in the past. It’s going to take time for both brown and white to find themselves in these new roles cuz frankly they don’t have the same cover that was there in years past. Jt could afford to have an off night and it wouldn’t be as noticed. Jaylen can’t. JB used to afford a bad efficiency night.. Derrick doesn’t. It’s just different.

  7. Poor Noa doesn’t realize Prichard £ White have more duties on defense and it tires them out and affects their shooting. They aren’t shooting poorly cause of the shooting part … it’s all the other stuff that’s taxing them

  8. I'm going back to my 40-42 win prediction for the Celtics. Preseason hype had me thinking a little more than that but if they're just hanging around the .500 mark or below I don't even think they let Tatum back until the last two weeks to get his feet wet even if he's ready at the all star break and they're one and done in the playoffs. They lost too much talent at the center position with Porzingis and Kornet leaving and I don't think Simons will add wins. If Pritchard or White go down for more than a few games they will be very bad in those games. Brown isn't a number 1 option and people should have figured that out with his career .105 WS/48.

  13. Same old Celtics?? What are you talking about ! There is only White and Brown ! No big guys at all!! Who is running this team?? We don’t have the right players for the positions!!!

  14. I feel like Gonzales and White should actually start with Simons and Pritchard coming off the bench. It seems like the C's get out of position because they're allowing too much penetration by the other team's guards.

  19. 00:00 – Celtics lose to Knicks, 105-95
    2:15 – Instant Reaction
    6:14 – Jaylen Brown and Derrick White underperform
    19:00 Get PrizePicks lineups with our code!
    20:52 Joe Mazzulla Postgame Interview & more reaction to Celtics loss
    30:14 – Hugo Gonzalez makes an impact
    35:01 – Celtics' need for authentic team identity
    42:24 Bobby Manning joins from MSG
    42:30 Will Bobby keep the beard?
    43:20 New expectations
    45:25 Noa Dalzell joins from MSG
    47:00Rebounding issues, missed open shots
    58:56 – Hugo Gonzalez's promising NBA debut
    1:18:19 – Jaylen Brown Postgame Interview
    1:22:15 – Discussion on Pritchard's performance
    1:25:18 – Blame pie

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  21. I dont know what it will take for them to fire Mazulla? Being the only coach in NBA history to blow back to back 20 point leads should have been enough.

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