Hurricanes Hot Start, Retro Jerseys, & Oilers Struggle ft. Cory Lavalette & Devan Dubnyk | The Sheet

Hurricanes Hot Start, Retro Jerseys, & Oilers Struggle ft. Cory Lavalette & Devan Dubnyk | The Sheet

[Music] All right, start the show off today with a quick shout out. Three people in specific Three people in Pacific as we say in the Atlantic. George Alves, Nick Roy, Patrick Buds. First stars of the last two weeks. You know why, Zach? You know why those three gentlemen are the first stars of the last two weeks? I genuinely do not have a clue. Those are three uh of the equipment managers for the Carolina Hurricanes who have been lugging around Hartford Whalers gear on a two-eek road trip for said Carolina Hurricanes waiting for this announcement today that uh Thursday it’ll be the Colorado Avalanche uh wearing their Quebec Nordics uniforms facing off against the Carolina Hurricanes who will be in their Whalers unis. So, the equipment guys never get uh enough of a shout out at all or or recognition. Um, but congratulations, gentlemen. You are the the first star of the last two weeks in the NHL for lugging all this extra stuff around as a Hurricanes around this roadie. Good job, guys. That’s something I never thought about is having to carry all the sets of the uniforms and everything on the road with them as they go. It’s like, here’s more. Gear is one thing, but Yeah. Okay. So, we’re going on the road. You’re going to take this with you. Yeah. And oh, by the way, we have this secret launch of a new uniform that we’re bringing this year because we’re gonna do this awesome, quite frankly, matchup, uniform matchup. But uh yeah, you keep this one under wraps and can you carry that around with you? Do you mind? Is that all good? Uh no, no, not do you mind. It’s this is what you’re doing. This is this is this is what’s going on. Here’s here’s something extra that you guys can lug around. Anyhow, um well done, gentlemen. Well done. So that that’s going to look like a lot of fun. um on Thursday. A again like I don’t think the NHL or NHL teams should spend a lot of time programming to the olds like me cuz this just like tickles me under the chin. Old WHA fan. But I always think it’s good every now and then to have at least one little nod to history. Like I don’t think the NHL should get or teams should get, you know, flooded by history or should get spend too much of their time winking at the past. I think it’s it’s more important for organizations to look forward. Um but every now and then with things like this, it’s just too juicy and too delicious to do. Um I think it’s a good idea to do it. Now, do you want to hear an idea which would piss off a lot of people? I do. I really do. Okay, so Carolina is wearing the uh Carolina’s wearing the Hartford Whalers gear, right? Against the Colorado Avalanche, who are wearing the um Quebec Nordics gear. Every year the Carolina Hurricanes do like uh Hartford Whalers Heritage Night and uh you know uh what they’re going to wear. They’re gonna wear their Hartford Wher gear. Do you know who they’re playing that night? No. Who are they playing? Utah. Or maybe for one night they’re playing the Jets. Another WHA team. Do you think there’s any way anyhow in this universe or any other universe that Utah would wear or the NHL would allow the uh Utah Mammoth to wear the un Winnipeg Jets uniforms? That is their history after all. Okay, sure. Fun. Um I’m going to say hard no. Hard no. Not even an inkling of a percentage that they would say yes for me. I don’t think so. Funny though. Fair. Good. Good point. So, this is Utah wearing Winnipeg’s gear. Winnipeg is in the league. No, but you don’t understand. There was a team called the Atlanta Thrashers and then and Winnipeg and Edchuk made the big big speech and they went to the Coyotes and then they had this ownership group that completely drove this entire thing into the ground and were hated by everybody in Arizona and they ended up at the last minute pulling up stakes and going to Utah. You got to see this guy Ryan Smith. He’s a new owner and you can look the other way on him glass banging because, you know, he owns a team so he can do whatever he wants. Maybe for one night they could go back to being the Jets on a retro night. Or would that be too much to ask? There’s somebody in the league office right now who saw this and just just saying, “Fuck Jeff. Just stop.” Yeah. No, I know. Yes. Will you We just shut up, man. Just like you got Look, you got the Nordigs and the Whalers. Like, calm down. Calm down, cowboy. Like, that’s that’s all we’re going to give you. That’s what that’s what you’re going to get. Greedy, greedy, greedy. Um anywh who uh Thursday we will see the first installment. Uh we do wonder about the home and home on the 3. Um although in the Nord in the Nordiks in the Avalanche promo calendar they did put that it’s um Colorado it’s it’s it’s Nordics versus Whalers. Yeah. But I don’t think I don’t Anyhow, here’s here’s what I’m getting at. That’s really interesting and it’s a lot of fun. I think the league should spend, and they do, spend more time looking forward than looking backward. Uh, that’s why I think it’s important to have stars that are in the game right now be involved in all of your commercial endeavors, you know, like, you know, the uh the Enterprise commercial with with Marty Berd, all those Enterprise commercials. Like, that’s great and all that, but could it not be like Connor Halabuk or or somebody else like someone who’s like in the game now? Like, oh, it’s fun and it’s great and all that. By the way, Brian always Bricky and we’ll have Bricky on again tomorrow. Um, always has a problem with using the Stanley Cup as a sort of commercial prop for things like that. Remind me to get Bricky going on on using the Stanley Cup in commercials. Yeah, he really doesn’t like it. There’s a lot of things he doesn’t like. I’m also told I was having a conversation with someone in Washington at the Vancouver Caps game on Sunday. We got into a conversation about room uh room temperature at rinks and um uh I remember Brian being very passionate about that in Anaheim specifically what the temperature should be at. You know, the team president wants it to be nice and warm so the season ticket holders can take their jackets off. Meanwhile, Brian wants to turn it into essentially a place where you can hang lamb in the corner to keep everything chilled. Get Brian go. Get Brian going on that one. Anyhow, uh, welcome to the program. The the sheet for this Tuesday, October 21st, and on the horizon, you’re going to hear us gush and gush and gushing on about it. We’ll see the Dods and the Hartford Wheelers for one more time. In the meantime, uh, let’s have a look at what we have on the show today. The the blueprint is powered by FanDuel, download the app today, and play your game. And coming up on today’s edition of The Sheet, we’ll talk to a couple of different guests. We’ll talk in moments here to Cory Lavallettes, uh, who covers the Carolina Hurricanes. You’ve seen him and heard him here before. Uh we’ll talk about the game last night where their five-game winning streak came to the end at the hands of the Vegas Golden Knights. Uh we’ll talk about the the return once again of the Hartford Oilers. This time playing the Quebec Nordiks and all things hurricane in the process. Deon Dubnick stops by. We’ll talk about Oilers issues. Where have the goals gone for this team? Uh we’ll talk about the Canes. We’ll talk about retro jerseys. Uh plenty about the Oilers. We should probably mention as well um Jonathan Taves gets his first goal as a member of the Winnipeg Jets last night as Winnipeg Jets beat the uh Calgary Flames. And I think now as we look at the calendar, specifically this week, the Calgary Flames find themselves last place in the NHL. They have a game against Montreal, then another game against the Winnipeg Jets. Could they take themselves out of the playoff picture in October already? Next week it’s Rangers and Maple Leafs and then Ottawa. Anywh who, um that’s what’s coming up on the program today. Glad to have you aboard. Uh before we get to Cory Lavallet, want to remind you this segment is a presentation of Prime Monday Night Hockey. That’s right. Prime Monday Night Hockey streams all national regular season Monday Night NHL games on Prime Video in Canada and is available free to Prime members in Canada. Stream Prime Monday Night Hockey exclusively on Prime Video and experience thrilling goals and dramatic plays from the NHL. Monday nights are hockey nights. Don’t miss a moment of the action. Uh coming up on Monday the 27th, Atlantic Division matchup as the Bruins are in Ottawa taking on the Suns. Check out the link in our description for the Prime Monday Night Hockey schedule on Prime Video or go to primevideo.com/nhl. Also on Prime Video, Face Off inside the NHL season 2. Subscribe with a 30-day free trial to Prime Video and watch Monday Night Hockey and the new season of Faceoff. Download the app or go to primevideo.com. With that, we’ll bring aboard Cory Lavallet, no stranger to this and other programs covering the Carolina Hurricanes. Corey, how are you, my friend? And first of all, before we get into what we saw last night in the game against Vegas, um I’m an old guy. I was a WHA fan growing up. I remember going to Toronto Toro’s games as a kid with my dad. Um, love the Hartford Whalers. We all did. Love the New England Whalers before that and certainly the Quebec Nordics as well. And we’re going to see it once, twice, and we’ll see the Hartford Wheelers a third time as well against the uh the Utah Mammoth. Um, I put this out to start the show today. Should the Utah Mammoth in that Heritage game against the Carolina Hurricanes/Hartford Whalers wear Winnipeg Jets uniforms? Let’s do it. I’m I’m all for it. Tom Dundan’s got some stroke in this league. Make it happen. As long as it’s the throwbacks, right? I I I always I’ve still not not in love with the Jets not uh not going back. You know, I know they use them on occasion uh as a third jersey, but I I’d love for them to go back to the old logo, but yeah, I’m all I’m all for it. Have a portrait of the queen up in the corner just like the old Oh, that would be would be fantastic. Um okay. Um just a a quick thought on on the Hartford Wheelers facing off against the uh the Quebec Nordics whenever this whenever this happens like I understand the reaction in Quebec City that logo uh the flirtilly all of it is very sacred certainly to to that uh culture and that province that hockey team etc. And we all know about Hartford Whalers fans and how passionate they are. Um, oh, and by the way, you know what would be great? If just for one day, the Carolina Hurricanes had their their their Heritage Classic night, the the Whalers Classic night, the Wheelers Heritage Night against the Anaheim Ducks just because Pat Verbique was the guy that got Brian Burke uh to stop playing the Brass Bonanza and then after every Hurricanes goal with Pat Verbique in the arena, they could play Brass Bonanza once again. Anyhow, I I digress. um your just your thoughts on, you know, using these uniforms that are, you know, from from a different era, uh from a different fan base and from a different tradition, albeit it still remains with the lineage of this team. I’m sure you’ve thought about this yet. Do you have a thought on it? Yeah, sure. Yeah. I mean, my first NHL game was was at the mall in Hartford. I grew up, you know, in near Springfield, Mass. So, I wasn’t uh all that far from Hartford. So, you know, you you want to sympathize with the people who lost their team, right? I I was in Montreal this weekend and everybody’s still wearing Expose hats. It’s It’s insane. They’re selling Expose hats in the in the Bell Center, all that stuff. So, you understand it. At the same time, it’s fun, right? There’s, you know, as far as logos and uniforms go. Are there two that are any better than these two really? Uh especially the way they’re going to contrast and um so I I mean, I love it. I think it’s great. I, you know, have a little place in my heart for the Whalers from back in the day. So, um, I think it’s great, but I I mean, you understand when a when a town loses a a team and all that, it’s it’s tough, right? I mean, but it’s the realities of business. I mean, there’s not much you can say. I I don’t think looking back, I mean, the Hurricanes have been in Carolina longer than they were the Whalers now. So, um, you know, still, it’s hard to say it’s an open wound anymore. I would say I I still have scars. I’m sure, you know, I could put some therapist on the map, earn he or she an international reputation, you know, tracing all the troubles in my life back to when the Toronto Toros moved to Birmingham to become the Bulls. I think that set me up for a for a lifetime of disappointment and and psychological wounds, but we’ll not talk about that now. Uh, okay. So, the uh the winning streak comes to an end in Vegas yesterday and some some pretty big moments. Uh the Dora FV goal was uh was gorgeous. Um what Ivan Barbashev did to KA Andre Miller with a stick tap uh was was something as well. What what did first of all what did you take away from last night’s game before we drill down on the Canes so far this season? What were your takeaways from last night? I mean the first thing that stands out to me is these are two really good teams that didn’t that each didn’t have two really good players. So we you know like I said I was in Montreal. went to uh Canadians Rangers. And while the Canadians are fun to watch, um you know, you can there there’s a level that teams like Vegas and Carolina are at that, you know, those teams are not at. You can see it already this early in the season that uh there’s a there’s a talent disparity and a you know, just a team disparity. Um, so the fact that these two teams played at such a high level, kind of a playoff style game, it was pretty tight the whole way, not a whole lot of, uh, you know, back and forth except for maybe in the beginning of the game. Um, the fact that they did that without Noah Hannifin, without Mark Stone, without Jacob Slavven, without Shane Gospare, you know, uh, really, you know, really impressive. even you know you know Vegas being down to Akira Schmid and net early in the game the way he stepped in was really impressive and that’s a guy that got shelled by Carolina in the playoffs a couple years ago so the fact that he was able to stay you know step in be composed and win that game uh it was I thought it was a fun game even if it wasn’t maybe the most exciting game we’ve seen this year uh it’s interesting to see how uh you know the level those two teams are at and the depth both teams have it’s the first time I’ve seen anybody you know, really kind of match with Carolina’s fourth line depthwise. The the depth that Carolina has, you know, Vegas has it too. Vegas is scary up front. The stone injury really hurts. Um, and obviously, you know, Petrangelo not available for minimum this season. And we wonder about the career. I mean, that’s a that’s a crusher, too. You don’t you don’t replace uh that defender for the season and you don’t have anyone that can step in and be Mark Stone. Um, but as for Carolina, I was having a conversation with someone over the weekend and we’re talking about the history of Carolina, the recent history. We’re not talking about like 10 years ago, but like the last couple of years of Carolina Hurricanes defenseman and what Carolina does with their defenseman. I was making the point that you know what, like the Carolina Hurricanes really, really shine their defenseman up really well. You know, Brady Sheay, you know, cashes in big time after starring on that blue line. Brett Peshy uh does same with New Jersey Devils. And this person said something to me. It’s really really got me thinking. So he said it’s not so much a matter of Carolina shining up their defenseman. It’s more that Eric Tolski and before him Don Wedell will only go out there and get players that fit what Carolina is doing. So naturally they’re going to look better. Like if you’re a big tough defender that’s used to, you know, cross checks from hell every night in front of the net, you’re not going to look good with Carolina. But if you’re a little bit smaller and you can move your feet and you’re athletic and you can think quickly, you’re going to do great. So, which one do you think it is? They polish them up or they only select the uh the the the right bunch from the vine that can fit what Carolina’s doing? How do you lean on that one? I mean, I think they kind of polish up anybody. I mean, you look at the guys they had the last couple years. You know, Demetri Orof and Brent Burns don’t really fill kind of that bucket you mentioned, right? Uh Keandre Miller is more Jacob Slavvenlike in in his size and skating and and length than, you know, a smaller guy. And they they got, you know, you lose Brent Burns and Demetri Orof and you’re thinking, oh, they’re they’re going to get small. Uh cuz Orlof might not be a tall guy, but that’s a a thick thick guy. Um but Keandre Miller really big, really long. Uh Alexander Nikian already looks like a man out there. A couple mistakes last night, a mistake against LA that almost cost him the game there, but really really good um upside there. And then you see the way Shawn Walker jumped in and he’s he’s been, you know, great from the minute he got there. you know, he doesn’t get uh a ton of ink except for maybe from me because I’ve really noticed how well he’s he’s played and fit in in transition to playing. Um but yeah, I mean, and it’s a shame that Shane Gospare got hurt because he was having a great start to the season for the second year in a row. Uh and obviously anytime you’re missing Jacob Slavven is tough, but the fact that they are where they are, uh you know, last year they they played almost the entire season with the same three deep D pairings. They were very fortunate not to have injuries. This year they haven’t had those pairings together really at all that they plan to have to start the season. So that’s that’s made it a little, you know, a little tougher. How good can Logan Stanhovven be with this team? Yeah. How good can can center Logan Stanhovven be with this team? Yeah, I mean the biggest thing for Rod Brendmore, right, is do you have the heart and will to go battle? And there’s no doubt that that guy’s got the heart and will to to battle. We saw it in the playoffs last year. Gets into a scrum with Tom Wilson. Maybe not the best business decision in the world, but um but he’s scrappy. Uh he’s he’s shifty. He plays tough. He he obviously can shoot the puck really well. Uh that line has been really good. Um you know, it started off with Andre Fetchnikov. Uh and then Taylor Hall had his good start to the year and he moved opposite of Jackson Blake and they’ve really really dominated uh territorially. Uh the goals maybe have, you know, the points and goals haven’t really been there yet. You know, I think Jackson Blake’s got got four points. Um so, you know, that you know, Taylor Hall’s got four points, but nothing outrageous yet. But even last night, I mean, if your concern is can can Logan Stanovven handle playing against bigger centers? I mean, Omach Hurdle is a moose and um you know, they had a good night last night despite the the end result. I thought they were um you know, they were pretty effective. Even if you don’t get on the scoreboard, if you can tilt the ice your team’s way, you know, you set yourself up for good opportunities. You know, there’s um there there’s a there’s a name out there that I that I keep thinking about with this Hurricanes team. You know, the one thing that I think we should all get used to if we’re not used to it already is Eric Tulski taking swings, right? And this is another go for it year for the Carolina Hurricanes. They’re going to have a number of go for it years as we all know. The one and I mean so many teams are looking for centers at this point. Um Calgary Flames are in a bad way. They’ve really started out poorly. I don’t think it’s going to get any better this week with games against Montreal and Winnipeg. And then it’s the Rangers, the Maples Police, the Ottawa Senators next week. They may find themselves outside of the playoff picture as we move to November. But I digress. Um, Carolina is one of those teams that’s uh, again looking for another center. Do you think that as we describe and think about players that can play with Rod Bindor’s system and how he wants to play Stanley Stanley Cup experience as well? Do you think that Nasim Cadri would fit on the Carolina Hurricanes? Well, I mean, I think he would bring a little something that the Hurricanes lack, right? They’re not the feistiest team uh in the league. They got a little bit of it. You know, when when will Kier’s healthy, he’s an absolute handful to deal with and he’s been really good to start the year, but you know, for all the things that Logan Stankhovven does well, he’s not the kind of guy who’s going to get in there and push guys around in the postseason, right? I mean, he’s he’s not the he’s not blessed with the size to do that. Um so, yeah. I mean, and and it’s not like you can’t move Logan Stanovven back to the wing. And um you know, there’s they’re really loaded up front right now, right? I mean, Mark Jenowski should probably be playing I you know, it’s surprising they can have a guy like that as their 13th forward. You know, when you have Andre Spetchnikov and yes, Barry Kokini playing on your fourth line. Uh and Eric Robinson, I I should mention him too, although he’s maybe more of a, you know, traditional fourthline player. Uh he’s been really good, too. I mean they are they’re so deep up front and you know adding another forward the question is is what what does you know what does Calgary want back you know if if Bradley Nadok couldn’t make this team out of camp who are who are you pushing out for a Nazen cadre obviously you know obviously you can scratch Eric Robinson but you know there’s there’s identity stuff that Rod Brendammore really buys into whether it’s penalty killing or even strength play and they love what somebody like him does so if you’re going to come and fit in, you have to, you know, we saw it with Miko Ranton and it didn’t it he didn’t really fit in, right? Um, you know, I’m sure they would have still loved to sign him. We saw what he did in the playoffs and everything, but um, you know, I think there has to be a fit with identity, too, but yeah, that’s a guy who’s um, you know, a proven, you know, proven Stanley Cup champion and, uh, uh, can get a little feisty and and can put points on the board. Okay, last one for you. Um, the answer to this for me is Kevin Denine. I’m curious what your answer is. Your favorite Carolina or sorry, your favorite Hartford Whaler ever. Um, man, I mean, that’s a tough one. Jeff Sanderson was a was a fun one to watch for me. Really? Uh, yeah. Speedy guy. Uh, he was watch for the young for the young people. That’s Jake Sanderson’s dad, right? Yeah. Yeah, right. Let’s let’s date ourselves to that. Um, so yeah, he was always a a fun guy. I mean, Kevin Denine, obviously, uh, great absolute moose. Ron Francis is, you know, a legend and, you know, you know, you feel fortunate that his career was able to move past just being a great player on a mediocre team. Uh, and then Zarly Zelapowski might be the, you know, top three best name in hockey history. So, going going away. Him and Bob Beers. You got it. Bob Beers. Zarly Zapowski. Man, the old names were the best. The old Epson Kudson. All those Oh. Oh jeez. Columbus Blue Jacket. Great. Epson Canudson. Oh man, I haven’t heard that name in years. Oh, Cory, you just made my day. Had my day made a few different times here. The announcement this morning, the Nords versus the Whalers, and now we got Epson Canudson drop on the program. Life’s good. Um, Corey, continued success. Um, you’re the man. Uh, we want to know about the Canes we call you. Thanks for doing this every time. Absolutely. Hey. Yeah, good job shouting out those equipment guys cuz I mean these days they’re taking uh taking logos off helmets and switching number style. I mean they’re doing all sorts of stuff. They’ve got a backtoback coming back to back coming up where I think they have to change the color the style of the numbers on the back of the helmet uh on an overnight flight across the country. So I could just picture them in the on the plane with them all laid out just scraping off stickers. So, good good on you to to mention uh you know, George Alves and Patrick Buds and and Nick Roy and all those guys that uh uh all good guys who are working their tails off to to make sure the teams look good. You always look after the people that look after you. Whenever I go onto a set, Cory, I do the same thing. I go and I thank and shake the hands of all the camera operators and then after you go to the control room or if you’re on the road you go to the truck right away as as as soon as you’re done because those people can make you look great or they can completely bury you. So always take care of your equipment managers, hockey players media, take care of the people behind the microphone, except for Zach, my producer. That guy doesn’t know his ass from page six. Anyway, all right. Thanks, Corey. We’ll talk soon, pal. enjoying those uniforms tomorrow or Thursday rather. Uh it’ll be fun. It’ll be a good time. Cory Lavallet joins us here when we talk about the Carolina Hurricanes. Um a couple of things there. Um trying to choose which player I’m going to tell. So Corey mentioned um Jeff Sanderson. Hey Zach. I was just kidding about all that stuff. You’re great. You want to uh even though it doesn’t know his ass from page six. Um you want to hear a good Jeff Sanderson story? Of course you do. This is Jake Sanderson’s dad. You might like this as a hockey player. So Jeff Sanderson, as the story goes, use three different hockey sticks in every game. Okay. Do I know why? If I tell you a hockey player use three different sticks in a game. And I said, tell me why he did that. What would you say? Well, now is different than what I am assuming your answer is going to be now. I know a lot of these guys it’s like the crispness of the stick and whether or not they feel fresh or whatever, but I cannot imagine that’s the reason why he was doing that. No. No. So, he would use a regular length stick for the first period and then as this is back in the days when like fatigue was a thing in the NHL. Fatigue doesn’t exist in the NHL anymore. You’re as fresh at the end as you are at the beginning. Um that’s for another conversation. How do we introduce more fatigue in the game? um he would use a regular length stick in the first period and then as he would get more tired he’d use a little bit smaller of a stick in the second and then an even smaller stick in the third because that would force him to bend his knees in the third period and not just straightle it later in the game. His stick would progressively get smaller all game long. Do you Zack Phillips have a thought on that? I think that’s hilarious. But I think that I I can’t I mean I can’t believe that that was a thing. Like I get it. I get the logic of it. I understand where he’s coming from. It’s hilarious to think that that was a real thing that was happening with NHL players player an NHL player. Um, like we’re watching, you just think about like we’re watching this game, the speed, the pace, the intricacies of the game itself, and here’s a guy who’s like cutting his stick shorter between periods. No, he would have three different lengths of stick. What he’s Oh, yeah. I’ll be right there, coach. Chopping down his stick between the second period. I know, but like going like he’s he’s going from one to the next to the next as the game goes on. That’s that’s hilarious. force to bend his knees. Guys doing that now. I on that I mean just a brief like side note on that. You see McKinnon he said he uses about 400 sticks a year. It’s I know. Okay. Let me ask you this question. If they had to pay for their own sticks, how many sticks a year do you think the guys would be using? Well, I mean, I I think those guys, like a guy like McKinnon, would probably still use about the same because if you do the math on it, I think it’s like a around like I I did it the other day. So, it’s approximately $160,000 a year. I assuming a stick comes in at about 400 for these guys, like retail price. So, I think McKinnon is still going to do that. You know, it’s the whole concept of like LeBron James, he says he spends $3 million a year on his body. I’m thinking McKinnon’s still doing it. Now, do I think that uh Pontis Homeberg or you know who I pick on Pontis for? You pick on poor Pontis. He was the first one that came to my mind. He was the first name that came to my mind. Yeah, cuz when I think of Nathan McKinn, I right away also think about Pontis Homeberg. Well, I’m going the opposite end. I know. I know. You think the direct opposite the direct opposite salary. Oh, okay. All right. All right. All right. Salary. Salary. Okay. I’m trying to think of the number financially, Jeff, is what I’m going at. Not player quality. I’m thinking financials. This is what he’s not going to be doing that. This is what gives the NHL its equilibrium and and its balance. You know, I I once uh I once was told, I don’t know if this is true, so I’m just going to put it out there. And someone smarter than me is going to tell me whether it’s true or not. Thinking about, you know, balancing things out. Um everything in the universe has its own smell, its own scent. Okay? And it’s usually produced by two offsetting scents that give it that equilibrium that makes something smell the way that it does. I was told years and years ago that the offsetting scent for the smell of death is cinnamon. Cinnamon. And now every time I smell cinnamon, I think of death. This was totally like my early 20s at university with one of my profs. I don’t know about you. Every time I like but we’ll do like you know what I’m talking about, right? Like two different scents offset each other that the offsetting scent for death is offsetting scent for death is cinnamon. I’m just putting it out there because I think someone’s going to probably tell me whether I’m on base or off base on this one or not. So when my dad kills vos in the backyard and then accidentally leaves them in the garage in the green for like a week cinnamon in the garage. Yeah. Yeah. balances out the scent. I’m telling you, I that’s what this podcast just could have turned into. [ __ ] that Merrick was told that he believes [Laughter] it would be pretty entertaining for a bit. It’s like I did you ever used to watch Mythbusters? I’m talking about nothing about hog. Yeah, we’re just testing that. Except we have no nobody to push back on it other than the chat who’s probably like, “Oh, that sounds good.” You know what? Yeah, I pitched at the old place. I pitched for years. Maybe I’ll do it here. Find some time. Everybody out there, don’t take this idea. Should trademark it. You know what I always wanted to do? hockey mythbusters. A hockey mythbusters segment of all the stuff that we’ve been lied to about all the things that are wrong. Like you and I were just talking about the uh the Gordy How-Thatrick before the uh before the show. First ever Gordy Howrick wasn’t Gordy how I assure you it was Harry Cameron 1917, right? For your Toronto team, by the way. You should know that as a Toronto fan. Paris for you. You don’t. Yeah. You go to Bucks, you feel a shame. I always wanted to do a hockey Mythbuster segment. So just basically taking like these things that we believe to be true. Lies. You can you No, you can you can call them what they are. Yeah. Lies. Lies that we’ve been told about hockey for a lot. Original six is another great one. What? Unless you’re part of their marketing division. You should not be using that term. What did What did I texted you about that the other day? The uh the Rangers and the Leafs played and Yeah. You said original six. I treated you like a worker. Paul Morris’s voice. Yes. Yes. A love Paul Morris’s voice. Do it every time. Two. It’s not the original six. Two Montreal teams. One of them had their rink burned down so they just stopped playing. Toronto original six. Yeah. Deleted it and then was like, “Are you serious?” And then I rewrote original six just to piss me off. Well, why don’t why don’t you send along like the lyrics from the hockey song while you’re at it. Hello out there. Oh, [ __ ] Seriously, if you really wanted to have a This is what Zach does. He has a couple of drinks and he starts texting me just to piss me off. No, no, no, no, no. I was cuz I’m easy that way. I was very serious. One thing in the sort of spirit of um of hockey history here today um the Pavalor goal last night against the Carolina Hurricanes is gorgeous and as Kobe Cohen mentioned on Morning Cup of Hockey this morning making it even more difficult to play is that he’s got a player draped all over him. I want to get to Deon Dubnik here but can we show this really quickly? So show me the Pavl Dorafv goal from last night and it’s it’s the goal that we sort of all agree to call the Forsberg. Even though much in the same spirit of Harry Cameron was the first to have the Gordy How Hatrick, it wasn’t invented by Peter Forsber. Now, he did it against Cory Hirs at the Olympics and that’s what made it, you know, popular, but he wasn’t the first to do it. The first to do it was one of my favorite hockey players, a Swede, um, who played for both, well, his name Deon Dubnick’s coming on a second. played for the Oilers, got chopped by Ron Hexel in ‘ 87, played with the Calgary Flames. He’s one of the best skilled players of all time. Let’s go to 1989, the World Hockey Championships, Sweden versus USA. And have a look at this beauty by the magic man, Kent Nilson. This is 1989. And there it is, what we now call the Forsber. But that was 1989. Can we not please call it the Kenta or the Magic Man or something like that? Look at this beauty. John Van Bees. No idea what to do on that goal. Just bites hard. Kent Nelson making it look easy. White gloves at all. Breaking like breaking a stick I love. Oh no. The white gloves. You You know what? I dare you, man. take white gloves out to beer league tonight and then come back and show me your wrists. No shot. That is not happening. I will not be doing that. I did wear white gloves one year, but I think that was a I believe that was a team decision to do that. I can’t remember why, but we wore white gloves or a lot of us did. Uh okay. Well, um well, excellent with that. Uh with that, let’s bring aboard Deon Dubnick. Uh now, Oilers analyst, former NHL goalender. Actually, I do want to open up by by asking Devon um about the Foresberg or the Kent Nelson. Devon Dubnick joins me here uh on the sheet. Devon, first of all, thanks so much for being patient and letting me show the the Forsber move there once with Pava Fv and then with Kent Nelson on John Van Beesburg back in 1989. Do you remember the first time anyone tried that on you? Oh jeez, I can’t remember the the first time anyone tried it on me. It’s it’s a great move. It doesn’t look great when it doesn’t work. Um, so you got to you got to sell uh to the glove side and and Doria does actually an unbelievable job when you watch the slow motion replay how far he gets out to the glove side and the goalie has no choice but to go and for him to be able to bring it back. That’s really the key to the move is selling the forehand that you’re going that way and being able to bring it back without getting caught up in the goalie stick or equipment. Uh it’s a it’s a very very dangerous move if you can execute it properly, but takes a lot of skill to do it, especially at speed. Uh at speed, you got to get in real tight. And you see Van Beber go up for the poke shack and Nelson pulls the puck away. You know, I remember when Jussi Yoken was scoring a bajillion goals doing that. And I always said to myself, does it have to be a smaller goalender that it works on because a larger goalender can seal up everything low really fast. Was I just naive enough to think that he’s only doing it with small goalies? Uh no. I mean, it gives us an advantage obviously with the legs. It just make it just means you got to sell it more. You have to make the goalie commit. If the goalie doesn’t fully commit uh to the move to the forehand, it’s easier for them to then obviously stretch and and get the far side. So, it will be more difficult on a taller goalie, but it can be done. I mean, Freddy Anderson’s a big boy. Uh yes, he is. Uh beautiful goal u by him yesterday night. Okay, so here becomes here becomes the question. Um in Edmonton, I’m scratching my head. I was on with with Jason Greger on DFO rundown on Sunday night and we were having this discussion and I was having a talk with someone who said, you know, one of the issues with Edmonton, he thinks that uh this guy I was talking to is I think that they have they shoot too much from the point. They have three defenseman uh that are top 15 and shots per 60. You can understand Evan Buchard being there. That’s one of his calling cards, but there’s no reason for Matias Ekholm to be shooting as much as he as he is. There’s no reason for Darnell Nurse to be shooting as as much as he is. Do you have a theory on on where the goals have gone for the Edmonton Oilers? Uh, no. I think I mean every if there was a magic answer then uh then I’d be in a different position. But um you know I think sometimes when teams are struggling scoring you you can see where they’ll start to just hammer pucks to the net. Um you know they they want to get greasy ones. They want to get it off a shin pad. Just kind of create havoc and maybe get a couple ugly goals and get the ball rolling. And I think, you know, in in the Oilers case, it can it can have a negative effect because they have so much talent up front and the creativity and the the in the offense and that’s where they create goals. Obviously goals can come from the point, but when you start to have that driving the offense, um, you know, it can take away because you got, you know, your dry cidles and and Hopkins and and McDavid, those guys aren’t aren’t grind get to the front of the net, get hit by slap shots from the point and tip pucks in and greasy rebounds. Of course, they’ll get them, but that’s not where the offense comes from. So it can, you know, it’s especially when you got a shot like Buchard, um, you want to use that when it’s available, but it can’t be driving your offense when really the skill up front is what’s is what’s going to drive your offense. So I think when goals are hard to come by, you can you can see that trend will start to shoot more from the blue line. But in the Oilers case, you certainly don’t want to be um you know, no knocks on on Echol or Nurse, but uh those point shots are not not nearly as effective as having the big boys handle it down low. Do you And I I don’t know where this changed, but it it seems as if, you know, more and more defenseman aren’t they’re not they’re not shooting to score. They’re shooting for tips or they’re shooting for rebounds. Um do you find that that is very much a thing now in in the NHL? Like very few. There’s very few of the Sheay Webbers of the world that you know you could rely on just to to blast in a couple of dozen goals every year just hammering it from the point whereas now guys are just trying to get it through just for a tip or just to create a rebound in front. Yeah. And it’s it’s a skill. Um you don’t see that as much. I mean Bousard’s one of those guys that could hammer one in from the point. I think there’s a combination too of uh you know you you add speed and skill into the game which obviously has happened and guys are guys are quick to get in shot lanes uh and so they’ll they’ll get in front and they’ll they’ll get in the way and they’re quick to get there. So, it’s a skill um to create a shot lane. And you see the best defenseman, Male Mars, Quinn Hughes, these guys where, you know, they’re just they’re sifting them through. They’re finding the lanes. They’re they’re moving how they need to move. And then their their ability to get good pace on the shot. Uh maybe maybe off balance a little bit. Um you know, that’s hard to do, too. I don’t know if you’ve ever grabbed a puck at the blue line and and tried to move with your body open and wrist one to the net. you know, I I know mine’s not getting there in the air, so it’s it’s it’s a difficult thing to do. Uh, and the best guys do it, but they just kind of find those lanes and and sometimes they just make their way all the way in. Um, you can see some some of the great shots, they’ll just find a way through, but really they’re just trying to find a lane for that puck to get to the net and see what happens. Am I overthinking this with the Oilers trying to reach for all these reasons why they don’t look like that same team that normally we see, you know, as as the calendar flips? And maybe this is just AAM’s razor and I just need to say to myself, you know, there’s two teams that go to the Stanley Cup final and we only talk about the Stanley Cup hangover with the team that won. You know, you win the Stanley Cup, one team goes to the bar, the other goes to therapy, but they’ve still played in the Stanley Cup final. You think it might just be fatigue at the end of it? These guys played a lot of games in the last two years. It can be for sure and and it’s two years in a row of a lot of games and uh you know, look look at the Florida Panthers. Obviously, they’ve got they’ve got injury issues um big time, but they’re struggling a little bit right now, too. So, everybody’s human and there’s no you can you can try all you want. You can talk about it. It it is it’s very hard to get that level of urgency up when you’ve been to the highest level of urgency two years in a row all the way into June to just get it up at the start of the year and then you know the road trips and and the the backto-back games and and and just trying to feel that importance of these games at the start is is a difficult thing to do for a group that has mostly been all the way for two years in a row. So, um, you know, in saying that they got to find a way to do it, but it’s it’s it’s a real thing that that these guys, you know, when things if things start off well in the season, it’s easier to free flowing, but when things, you know, are they’re struggling offensively and defensively like this. Um, you’re going to have to find that urgency sooner rather than later. Uh, they will get reinforcements uh eventually here. Zack Heyman, you know, we talk about, you know, greasy goals and twoft goals. Um, you know, that’s his Bailey Wick. like that’s that’s where he lives. Matias Yanmark on the horizon as well. Uh with Heyman, you’ve seen this before. You’ve been on teams like this. When when you’re in a slump and you’re having a hard time scoring goals, it’s generally not going to be like the 60oot laser beam wrist shot that starts to get you out of your funk. It’s just tapping in raccoon goals around the net. Phil Espazito, Tim Curry, Dino Cicerelli, Thomas Holstrom, tell me when to stop. Those style of goals. And look, man, that’s where Zach Heyman lives and those are his kind of goals. Is it just a matter of time until things turn around? They just need like they just essentially what I’m saying is do you think they just really miss Zack Heyman? Well, they do. They did. They did when he was out in the playoffs last year as well. It was it was a noticeable change because he just he brings that those intangibles to to the game. um you know, he’s he he’s he he has skill to do to make to score incredible goals, but he’s going to go out there and he’s going to lay the body and he’s going to go to the net. He’s going to grind. He’s going to he he’s going to create chaos. And when you add a piece like that to the lineup, it’s it has a trickle down effect kind of throughout the lineup. Guys slot into different places. Um and and it can it can certainly free things up. It can it can free up uh other guys, skilled guys. It just can create more room on the ice if you got a guy rolling out there all the time, crashing the net, causing havoc, kind of opening things up. It can actually open things up for other lines as well. So, um, certainly is going to be a very welcome addition when Zack Heyman comes back. Quick thought on Jake Walman. I mean, I love this guy. I love him. Yeah, I I think he showed his he showed his worth last year in the playoffs. um not only, you know, he brings offense with him, but he’s he’s also he’s an energy guy and he plays he plays hard defensively and he blocks shots and he’s he’s got a great two-way game and and I think that the speed element of his game and and his mobility uh fits right in with with how the Oilers play and and um you know, that’s a that’s a big part of it is moving pucks up the ice, but also the ability to to skate up the ice as a defenseman uh and move around the zone is is a big part of Edmonton. You got to you got to be able to play with that speed of the guys up front. Hey, la last question for you. I’m curious just in your own history. I just rattled off a bunch of names of you know guys that lived in front of goalenders. Who did you hate to try to fight a screen through? Like who did you just like ah this I got to fight through a screen. This guy’s here. Like who was the worst for you? Who did you just hate standing in front of you? Oh uh I’m going to go I’m going to go off script here a little bit. There was one two guys I could think of that weren’t necessarily guys all the time, but um one guy that always threw me off because I being as tall as I am, I used to always look over everybody. So, you know, guy would stand in front of me, it wouldn’t matter. I’d stand behind him, I could look over his shoulder and I played played point shots basically very upright. Uh and M Martin Hanzel would stand in front of me and he was the same same height as me and I would kind of be looking and being like, “Oh, uh I can’t see anything.” And so I had to because his shoulders were at my eye level and and I I had to change the way I played point shots. He would stand in front of the net um in Arizona on the power play and I had to start getting low and looking around cuz my the way I did things wasn’t working with him in front. So he was always a little difficult but uh when I my first year in the league um actually Keith Kachchuck Walt was in front of me and uh I used to you know my dad taught me growing up like if a guy wants to stand in front of you make him pay for it. give him wax, push him out of the way, push him in the back. And and my first game in St. Louis, Kachchuck was standing in front of me and I went to give him a real good shove in the back, throw him off balance, get him out of the way. And I mean, it was like pushing a wall. I didn’t I might as well have put my hands into a brick wall and pushed backwards. There was just no movement on the skates, no nothing. He was there and uh it was in my head it was kind of like, “All right, Mr. Kachchuck, this is your ice. I’ll work around you from here. Thank you, sir. Can I Can I get anything for you? Is your dry cleaning ready? Can I go pick that up? Anything you need, Mr. Kachchuck. Yeah. Don’t mind me. I’ll be back here doing my thing, but you just stay right there. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Don’t worry. Nice and comfy for you. I’ll bring you out a pillow. Just set up camp there. No problem. You’re fine. Uh this been great, Devin. Thanks so much for uh sharing your expertise. Well, we’ll have another look at the Oilers tonight. I mean, it’s another big game uh for the Edmonton Oilers this evening facing off against the Ottawa Center as a team that has their own issues. Um keeping pucks out of the net and getting to the back of the other teams outside of Shane Pinto. Uh Devin, thanks for this. Much appreciated. We’ll check back soon. All right, thanks so much. All right, there he is. Deon Dubnick, analyst for the Edmonton. That segment, by the way, a presentation of Bower and the Bower Prosharp Advent Edge. This at home sharpener gives you ability to sharpen your skates with prolevel precision at the touch of a button. Leveraged by decades of progressive innovation, this machine is designed to be as automated, precise, and convenient as possible. Easy to use, the Advant Edge features an interactive touchscreen, user profiles, and has been readily available on how to do videos and troubleshooting tips to have you ready to sharpen like an expert. Whether you’re sharpening skates in your garage, at the rink, or even on the road, the Advant Edge athome sharpener ensures that your skates are always game ready. Learn more about the Bower ProSharp Advant Edge at bower.com. I can only imagine, Zach, that feeling of like really giving someone a hard shove in front of you as a goalender and them not moving at all. Yeah, it’s kind of uh similar, I think, when uh I was playing. I mean, you’ve probably had experience this too. You kind of have this a little bit of it when you play like men’s league and stuff every now and then, but like when I was younger, I was really small. Like, I was a very small player. Did not weigh very much. I was on the uh four meals a day, five protein shake kind of diet. Still couldn’t put it on. Let’s get the weight on. And it would be like nice. I’ve done this every day. I feel sick every day and I’ve gained one pound in the last 3 weeks kind of stuff. But um when you’re trying to box out a a big guy and you go to push him and all of a sudden you’re like, “Oh, you’re not going anywhere.” Like I had I played against like Sha Day and at that point I think I was probably Oh. And he was massive then too. He was massive when he was corner battle. You kind of like push the guy over to get positioning and you’re like, “Okay, I’ll see what I can do with my stick now.” Oh, I can’t lift his stick up either. Oh, he’s like Gordy, how with this thing or Pavlo That’s Oh, wonderful. Oh, that’s just great. You think I can slide under there? Is that a Can I get in there that way? Like, yeah. No, he’s like you’re not gonna get that. Frustrating. Like, you’re just not going to be able to get in there, do anything, and you’re like, “Okay, well, I gotta find a different way now. I’m just gonna paint myself orange and stand here. Yeah, exactly. What’s the difference? What’s the difference between uh Zach Phillips and a pylon? Oh, the pylon doesn’t bite on the tow drag. Boom. Hockey jokes here on the program here today on this Tuesday, October the 21st. Glad to have you aboard today. Um, a couple things I want to go over from last for anything from last night uh really catch your eye. We played that Pavaldora FV goal which was an absolute thing of beauty. The Barbashev goal was was brilliant too. Man, that guy’s we talk about strong hockey players. What Barbashev did yesterday to Keandre Miller um was just brute. I mean smart and just like Brute. How you knock Kandre Miller down like that with a stick tap. I I I I’m I’m at a loss for words because Miller is a uh a big strong defenseman. Uh Jonathan Taves with his first goal as a member of the Winnipeg Jets. That was real special. Yeah. Uh Calgary Flames lose another one. Like are you with me? I was I was on with uh with Tyler and Hutz on uh on the on the noon show and we were talking about you know what teams should just say screw it. We’re going for Gavin McKenna. To me the answer is the the Calgary Flames. They may get their own answer this week in these next couple of games, but uh I look at this Calgary Flames team and we’re reminded that this is a team that came from Atlanta in 1980 and the highest they’ve ever picked in the NHL draft is fourth and that was Sam Bennett in 2012. They’ve never had a top three pick. And there’s Gavin McKenna sitting there like, “Yeah, give yourself the best chance for Gavin McKenna.” Like, this is this is a team that right now and for the foreseeable future, they cannot score. And the la the last thing you want is to be chasing wins now and then not really begin any type of significant rebuild until the r the new rink is open. And we’ve seen what’s happened with the Detroit Red Wings every year. the new ring’s open and no one’s going after April 7th or 8th because the season’s done and the rink just sits there. That’s not what you want. Yeah. The I’m on the same page as you by the way here with Calgary for sure. It’s also if you are given these signs this early like last year there was at least the you know the magic wand that was waved over them where it was like okay it looks better than what it is kind of thing and it’s a little bit more fun it’s competitive whatever like let’s give them a chance and you can give some of your young guys an opportunity to kind of have that experience of the competitive hockey you have use as an example Nasim Kadri and Rasmus Anderson as the those are the two that stand out obviously viously, right? There’s probably some other pieces Blake Coleman Blake Coleman as well throw in there. Um, but like those pieces are the ones that are the obvious ones and last year they kind of hung on. You can get rid of them get them in a trade now and get rid of them. It’s not maybe the right way to put it. You can use them in a trade now. Yeah. I I view it and maybe it’s not the same way out there. You tell me if I’m wrong, but I view it as a positive where it it’s a win-win for the teams where the team that gets them now gets an extended period of time with the player to adapt to the team, the system, the coach, the players that are around rather than tossing it in. We know sometimes that doesn’t work when a guy gets moved at a trade deadline. Uh, on the other side, if you’re Calgary, you don’t have to worry about a Cadri or an Anderson or a Coleman giving you wins that you do not want. There are times where I feel like there’s a Nazim Kadri just by his sheer competitive nature of who he is where he’s never gonna show up and take a night off. he might just accidentally will you to a win and you’re sitting there in the GM’s office and you’re like, you know, you’re the front officer like we we maybe we didn’t need that overtime loss and just picking up that point for no reason. You know, late in the third the goalie made uh that save. Yeah, we we really don’t need that. We could have done without that one tonight. Uh but I I think it kind of like helps you with that and you know maybe then you also can get a little bit more of a package coming back because Kadri with an extra 40 games or 25 games maybe even to just not be as generous with them maybe that brings you a little bit more in return which is just everybody wins like we’re all happy here. We all shake hands and say thank you and everybody wins and keep it moving. Anyway, that is the uh that’s the flames. Tough schedule around on the horizon. Montreal and then Winnipeg again this week. Um we shall see. UKA Lucanin, by the way, as we’ve been discussing here over the past couple of weeks on the program, uh conditioning stint with Rochester of the American Hockey League. Why is that significant? Why is that significant? Because now the Buffalo Sabres have three goalenders, each on one-way contracts in the American Hockey League. If you’re if you’re if you’re the the coach there is is um it’s actually he’s a really good coach. Michael Leone is is the coach there. I I I really feel for him because now he’s got Levi, he’s got Yorgiev, and now he’s got Ukapalucan on a conditioning stint. Here you go. He’s looking around going, “What the hell do you want me to do with this?” And I’ll tell you, I tell you looking around going, “What am I what’s what’s going on here?” is Devon Levi. And we’ve talked about that, too. But the goalending situation continues. He gets he gets the text that UPPL is coming and he calls Kevin and says, “Are there two Nets? How many pucks are we playing with? Are there more than one net? Is Has the game changed here?” Anywh who, uh, so there’s that situation. Uh, by the way, file this under the category of you didn’t need to do this. Ryan Worovski, the head coach of the San Jose Sharks, apologizing for his comment about, “I trade my kids for a win.” Yeah. No one thought you were serious. You don’t need to apologize. You don’t need to apologize for that. Yeah. Yeah. I get the frustration. There was level like you don’t need a No one thought really you’re surrendering children for a win in the NHL. Apologize. If you’re somebody who was upset by him saying that, go outside. Problems you take a breath. Touch grass. Touch some grass, bud. Look at the sky. Walk. Go for a walk. Like you’re Stop watching hockey games. It’ll be okay. That’s right. Your laptop. Go for a walk. Touch some grass. Have a drink of water. Get an early night’s sleep. Read a book. Like that’s ridiculous. the fact that he felt the need to apologize for that. It’s like you’re you’re okay, man. It’s all good. It’s tough sledding there. It’s tough. I feel bad for Huska in Calgary. I feel bad for Rosski in San Jose. Anything from last night for you before I move on to tonight? Tonight we got some juicy stuff. Tonight we’re right back into 10 games. Here we go. Don’t leave. Don’t leave. Watch hockey all night. I wish that I could give you some real answer about the games that I watched. Like normally I am watching all of them. I I was at the JS game last night. Um so that is that took up most of my night. I I’ve watched highlights. I try to catch up on everything. Like I never want to go into the next day blind. But I get it. You you hit the main touch points of things I saw. Okay. Barbashev, Doraf, Taves, you checked the boxes. Like I that’s it for me. Okay, so let me let me ask you a question that many many probably in the chat and and and many watching listening are wondering about right now too. When did the swelling go down after the end of the game? At what point did this No, no, no. I uh I I didn’t drink during the game. Uh and then I actually just went out for drinks like a some celebratory beers with my buddies after. You didn’t go with Tyler and Huts. Tyler and Huts were there. Uh, no. I didn’t end up seeing them. I actually I had I would have gone and seen them, but the reason that I ended up going to the game is one of my buddies from New York flew in just for the game. Oh, yeah. And so we went out with him and his friend who came and like some of my uh some of my friends that were here in town as well going to the game. So I ended up sticking around with them. But yes, I did text them during the game as well. Yeah, I’m glad you got that experience. That must have been a lot of fun. I’ve I’ve never ever in my life experienced something like that uh in person. I’ve had experiences watching, you know, the boutist, the bat flip and the anchor walkoff with friends, which is obviously very cool, but like that I’m going to remember that for the rest of my life. Like, of course, nuts, nuts experience. the the sound in there when that happened. It was you couldn’t hear yourself think. It was insane. We we got to sit. Luckily, my buddy got us some great tickets, Jeff, so we got to sit on some really cool seats. It was mayhem. Everybody was basically running around the aisles, jumping up and down, grabbing each other like crazy crazy. Super cool. Or you could do what I did and watch like the Wild and the Rangers and the Halves and the Swords and Seattle Philadelphia that you won’t remember which I also enjoyed doing. I don’t I don’t I don’t know if I’m going to remember last night like for the rest of my life watching Berkeley Ken get his first assist in the NHL. I’m going to think fondly about that for my rest of my life. That or a George Springer blast. I don’t know. I don’t know. Watching the Doria goal against Carolina, you know. Yeah, it’s pretty pretty much had similar nights. Pretty much had similar nights. I just couldn’t pass that up. It was I get it. I get it. Amazing opportunity. So, yeah. Glad you had that experience. I That’s That’s life, man. Just go have great sports experiences. Go have fun. That’s awesome you got to be part of that. And I was glad that that Carter and and Tyler could both be part of that, too, from our from our group here. So, that’s wonderful. even though they’re maybe still a little bit banged up at D on DFO live here today is have one of those like wake up and bite the dog back mornings to level yourself out for the rest of part of what I was thinking I was like a I had to work I was up early this morning working so that was part of it but also I was like I want to remember every single part of this like not that I was just going to go there and like be not able to see anymore more. You know, I’m not getting myself to that point, but I wanted to just like soak in the entire moment and have every single part of it like something I would remember forever, which mission accomplished. It wasn’t one of those uh call up your wife and say, “Send the kids to the neighbors. Daddy’s coming home drunk.” Wasn’t one of those nights. Okay, good. All right. All right. Very, very good. Glad you glad you were uh curious yet well behaved. Well done, Zach. Well done. Uh The Sheet, back to hockey. Uh, the sheet is powered by FanDuel. Play your game with FanDuel. It’s the NHL season and FanDuel is your home for all the action on the ice. From blue line to bets slip, we’ve got you covered all season with unique promos, live offerings, and more features to let you play your game. Missed Puck Drop, no sweat. With a live same game parlay, you can build your bets up until the final buzzer. Download FanDuel Sportsbook today and play your game. Please play responsibly, 19 plus, and physically located in Ontario. If you have questions or concerns about your gambling or the gambling of someone close to you, please contact Ontario at 1866531-2600 to speak to an adviser free of charge. There’s some juicy ones tonight and I want to I want to sort of speed bump on one of them. Florida Panthers and the Boston Bruins. Florida Panthers and the Boston Bruins. Now you do your thing, but I want to pause on Florida and and Boston here for one second because there was more brilliance out of Brad Marshand yesterday. Yeah. So, uh, I actually ended up going and finding some cool stuff that they have on FanDuel for today. Okay. Especially with 10 games because I thought it was going to be it’s a interesting way to do it with this many games on the board. Okay. FanDuel’s posted puck drop specials. This is player with the most shots on goal for the day. I had no idea that they had this. So, these are just five of the guys that were at the top of the board. There’s more on there. Um, but Matthews, Forsber, McKinnon, Hughes, and Pastor Knack is the top five. Matthews leading plus 1,200 and it goes down. I just thought these were fun and I never knew that they posted them. I came across them here today. Puck drop specials. They’ve also got some other stuff on here, Jeff, which I’ll just point out which I also wanted to kind of add because I know where you’re going and I had a very similar thought. Um, but uh they have the lowest team scoring and the highest team scoring for the day. Uh, they have any player to score a hat-tick, any player to score four plus goals. Like they have these where it’s just open up to all of the games. It’s not specific to one individual game or player or whatever. I just thought that that was pretty cool cuz I was kind of trying to look for a way for like the Panthers to score the most goals tonight or the Bruins like something to do in that game and I kind of stumbled across this by looking for that. Like what the where did this come from? That’s really cool. I thought that was cool. Uh well, put it this way. If if Jack Hughes ends up with the most, it’s probably a bad night for your team. But, uh, if Austin Matthews rips it up all of a sudden, we can stop talking about how good New Jersey is right now because they look pretty good. Yes, Devils look good. They do look pretty good. Yeah, Devils look pretty good. The one Oh, you mean my team? My team’s in the World Series. Oh, that’s going to be non-stop. Just insufferable. Everything you’ve always wanted to know about Max Sherzer, but we’re afraid to ask, courtesy of Philly. This is going to be just going to be insufferable. That’s the last time I’m going to do that. I don’t the Blue Jays. No, man. I’m glad. Listen, I’m glad you had the experience. I think that’s I think that’s fantastic. I was I was at the game when uh George Bell hit the home run off Bruce Kson after uh Kon no Ernie Wit rather hit the home run off Bruce Keon after the George Bell incident and that exhibition before there was a Sky Dome son there was Exhibition Stadium. Let me tell you about that. And that place erupted when Ernie went down on one knee to hit the Grand Slam. God, that was good. Um okay, so here’s what I want to focus on real quick. Wrapping up the program today. Relatively on time. Not bad with the timing today, Merrick. Um although I blame you. I when in doubt, blame the producer for going off the rails. Bruins and Panthers. Brad Marshian yesterday asked what his favorite thing is about Boston. Asked about what he misses about Boston. I’m paraphrasing what the question was. His answer. Oh, just a Picasso from Brad Marshan. The fans translation. Don’t boo me. Don’t make this miserable for me. Could have been like pasta all the guys that I fought with back then. Yeah. In the trenches together organization taking care of me. The Jacobs fan. The fans. Yeah. The fans. That guy is so good. You know what he is? You know what he is? You ever seen the movie Glengar? Glenn Ross. No. Okay. First of all, that’s your homework tonight because you’re not going to get this reference until you watch this movie tonight. You need to watch that movie. By the way, um, always be closing. ABC, always be closing. That’s Brad Marshian. He is always closing. He gets it at So, I know he’s not the most I know he’s not a Rasmus Dalene’s not a big fan of his right now. Or Pton Krebs, who had to surrender his helmet for Raasmus Dalene for the power play because Brad Marian tore off the ear loops of Dalens on Saturday afternoon. But that guy is all business. Brad Marian is always closing. And that was such a perfect answer. I miss the fans. Oh, do I Good job. Well done. Yeah. Sometimes you paint a barn, sometimes you paint a Picasso. That’s was a Picasso painted by Brad Marian. And that’s what we got for you today. You want any closing thoughts out of you, Blue Jays fan? You want to talk about George Springer? And it’s a good thing you were wearing dark pants when that ball left the yard. You want any of that kind of stuff you want to go over? No, no, no, no, no. The the Marshand plus 175 to score was the other thing I was looking at tonight. Like that’s the other that’s the other area. It’s going to happen. Yeah, I know. What does he What do you think he does? Blow a kiss. No, I don’t know. Yeah, but to his teammates, not the fans. You know, it’s it’s it’s it’s interesting. Hey, like if Brad Marshian scores, do they give him an ovation? No. They’re still Boston sports fans. I get it. And the reason I’ve got this in my brain is, you know, we started the season off this year by losing three goalenders, Ken Dryden, Bernie Pont, and Ed Jockaman. And one of the greatest moments in the history of the game. Here goes Merrick with the history [ __ ] And the greatest moment of the game is when the Rangers put Jockman on waiverss, was claimed by the Detroit Red Wings. Two days later, the Red Wings are in New York to play the Rangers and Eddie is starting and he gets a standing ovation and they’re chanting his name against the New York Rangers. To me, it was one of the most beautiful things I’ve ever seen in hockey. There’s that great photo of him of Eddie like fighting back tears in the crease. Uh he never wanted to leave. Um but I I really I’m curious to see what the Boston Bruins fans do with Brad Marian if he scores tonight. I’m really curious. Look, my my thought on on Boston and their approach to tonight would be not booing would be the greatest sign of respect. Cheering would be too far. Just in general, not booing and heckling. That would be like the ultimate respect. It’s just like when Mner comes back and he gets a standing ovation from Maple Leafs fans, right? Right. Yes, that will happen. Mhm. Just want to stand back from the microphone on that one. Uh Sharks Islanders, Schaefer vers Misa. Schaefer vers Celabbrini. First overall picks. Um going up against each other. Uh the Vancouver Conucks coming off that big win against the Washington Capitals on Sunday afternoon. Face off against the Pittsburgh Penguins. Uh still no news on Philip Heedle. Uh the last time I checked about an hour and a half ago. Um a lot of good games tonight. It’s one of those nights where like, you know, kick it off like start at 7 and finish with your 10:00 starts in Eastern time zone. Uh, and adjust accordingly in all the other time zones. You’re going to finish off with the Colorado Avalanche and the Utah Mammoth who for one day against the Carolina Hurricane Hartford Whalers could maybe please be the Winnipeg Jets. I know Merrick, as we say in French, turvul you dream in color. May you dream in color. Thanks for the buns and the use of the hall. Tippy Zambon driver on the way out. Thanks to Deon Dubnick for stopping by. Thanks to Cory Lavallet for stopping by. Thanks to you and no, I’m not saying it in like the Brad Marian go into business for yourself. Thanks so much for the downloads. Thanks for the attention. Thanks for uh watching listening. The sheet returns tomorrow. Brian Burke is back on. Uh so we’ll talk to Berkie and then on Thursday, Pierre Magcguire returns as well. So lots to get to this week. Hope to have you aboard for all of it. you know what to do as far as helping us out here in the process. Do your subs, do your likes, all of it. Leave your comments. It means a lot to all of us. Thanks for this. Don’t forget Morning Cup of Hockey. Uh tomorrow, Johnny Lazarus alongside Colobby Cohen. That is at 9:00 Eastern. At noon Eastern, Daily Faceoff Live, DFO Live. We’ll see if the boys have sobered up by then. Mix in a water, boys. Talk to you tomorrow. Jeff Merrick along with you. Hope you enjoyed the program today. if you did, or maybe even if you didn’t, they can’t all be gems, folks. Uh, please hit the subscribe button. 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The hockey nostalgia is strong on today’s edition of The Sheet with Jeff Marek, as the Carolina Hurricanes and Colorado Avalanche unveil a retro dream matchup — the Hartford Whalers vs. Quebec Nordiques. Jeff kicks things off by shouting out the Hurricanes’ equipment staff for hauling Whalers gear across the country before diving into how this unique throwback night came together.

Cory Lavalette of the North State Journal joins the show to break down Carolina’s early-season success, what went wrong in Vegas, and how the Hurricanes continue to polish their defensemen under Rod Brind’Amour. The guys also discuss Logan Stankoven’s growth, Carolina’s depth, and whether a player like Nazem Kadri could be a fit in Raleigh.

Later, Devan Dubnyk stops by to dissect the Edmonton Oilers’ scoring drought — from point-shot volume to power-play execution — and what’s missing up front without Zach Hyman. Jeff and Zack also talk about Jake Walman’s impact, the Flames’ free fall, and whether it’s already time for Calgary to enter the Gavin McKenna sweepstakes.

From the Whalers’ brass bonanza to Kent Nilsson’s forgotten “Forsberg” move, today’s episode is packed with storytelling, history, and insight on everything happening across the NHL

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Chapters:
0:00 – Equipment managers get their due: Whalers–Nordiques nostalgia
2:18 – The NHL’s nod to history and Jeff’s “retro night” idea
7:19 – Jeff sets up today’s guests & topics
9:33 – Cory Lavalette joins: Hurricanes’ road trip, Whalers gear & team identity
14:19 – How Carolina keeps producing elite defensemen
18:43 – Logan Stankoven’s development and Brind’Amour’s system
20:52 – Could Nazem Kadri be a trade fit for the Canes?
22:52 – Lavalette’s all-time favorite Whaler and Jeff’s Jeff Sanderson story
26:36 – Jeff’s myth-busting tangent: Hockey “myths” and cinnamon lore
33:29 – Pavol Dorofeyev’s goal and the real inventor of “The Forsberg” move
35:32 – Devan Dubnyk joins: breaking down the Oilers’ slump
37:33 – Point-shot volume & offensive issues in Edmonton
41:17 – Stanley Cup fatigue? Oilers vs. Panthers parallels
43:25 – Missing Zach Hyman and the “greasy goal” effect
44:18 – Jake Walman’s two-way impact
45:07 – Screening nightmares: Dubnyk’s hardest players to see around
47:42 – Bauer ProSharp AdvanEdge segment
50:12 – Jeff & Zack react: Flames’ collapse and the Gavin McKenna race
54:50 – Buffalo’s goalie logjam: Levi, Luukkonen, Comrie situation
56:03 – Sharks coach apology & “touch grass”
57:48 – Closing thoughts & what to watch tonight

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