RUMORS: Hunter Greene DEPARTURE Would Not CRIPPLE Cincinnati Reds | Reds Pitching is DEEP

You might think a possible Hunter Green trade would the Cincinnati Reds and you would be wrong. [Music] You are Locked on Reds, your daily Cincinnati Reds podcast, part of the Locked On podcast network. Your team every day. Welcome in to the Locked Ons podcast. Locked on Reds as part of the Locked On podcast network, your team every day. My name is Stephen Offenbaker. His name’s Jeff Carr. We love the Cincinnati Reds. We love baseball. We love talking about the Reds. We love talking about baseball. And we love talking about those things, especially with you. On today’s show, there has been some promising play out in the Arizona Fall League. We’re going to check in and see how the youngsters are doing out there, including one guy that will be on the Cincinnati Reds roster in 2026. Also, I was away. Jeff played. He had lots of great shows while I was gone. And there’s something I want to say about a conversation he had with Lance Mallister. We’re going to get into that here in just a little bit. But where we are going to start is to dispel the idea that a trade of Hunter Green decimates the Red’s rotation. Absolutely wrecks the pitching staff. It’s simply not true. We’re going to get into it and we’re going to get into what a potential post Hunter Green rotation could look like. We’re going to get into that to start things off on today’s episode that is brought to you by our friends over at Game Time. Download the Game Time app, create an account, and use the code locked on MLB for $20 off your first purchase. All right, Jeeoff, let’s get started with how this could work for the Cincinnati Reds. Because it’s true, trading away the caliber of a pitcher that Hunter Green is uh will have some impacts on this rotation, but it doesn’t decimate it. It doesn’t leave you looking around the pitchers room wondering, well, what are they going to do now? Oh my gosh. Um, it’s very easy to find your five guys in a post Hunter Green world. It starts with Nicolo as as the leader of this rotation and and we can get into a conversation about how reliable he is for 162 game season to make his 30 starts. We can talk about that because it’s a valid conversation. Following up Nicolola, you know, I wouldn’t want to go backtoback lefties. So, I would throw Brady Singer in the two spot behind Nicolola. Coming up behind him would be Andrew Abbott. Then I would throw Chase Burns. And then you’ve got Rhett Lauder. Those are my five guys, which is a really good rotation, a really strong rotation coming out of Goodyear, coming out of opening day. Um, and that doesn’t even begin to address some of the arms that are coming back from injury, which I think is part of the answer to the question, well, can you rely on Nicolola? Exactly. because I feel like this Red’s organization has built the kind of pitching depth that you would be able to trade a Hunter Green and still be going for now, still be attempting to make the playoffs. Now, it’s not a rebuilding move. It’s not the kind of move that a lot of folks would immediately react and say, “This is waving the white flag. The window of contention’s done.” Now, it certainly doesn’t help it, but you could make a good trade in that. And I think that Nick Crawl would understand that. And I don’t think Nick Crawl will pull the trigger on a bad trade. But at the same time, what’s left over is still a really good rotation because Nicolola at times last year looked like the ace of this staff. I mean, he was worth 4.9 wins above replacement according to baseball reference. So, it’s not as if we’re talking about a meh guy. and and then of course Andrew Abbott actually led the team in wins above replacement at 5.6. So you’re still talking about almost 10 more between two guys that remain on this staff. But then you add in the fact you’re getting more innings from Chase Burns. You will return louder and those guys have just uber talent and there’s probably people thinking well but there’s going to be a limit on them. Sure there is. But you also got Brandon Williamson, you also got Julian Aguiar. You’ve also got Chase Penny. And you’ve even got because I’ve seen some some reporting like baseball perspective or no, I’m sorry, Baseball America says that they predict a big time breakout for pitcher Jose Franco in the Red’s minor league system. So, he is also a talent that people kind of have their eye on is he could make his way to the major leagues at some point. you you’ve got levels of talent for the pitching staff. And I think that that is the thing to remember here is that as much as we have said we would prefer Brady Singer get traded over Hunter Green. If you trade Hunter Green, it’s not as if, oh, that’s the nail in the coffin. The Reds are done. No, a matter of fact, it’s the opposite, Jeff. Because if you have to look at it that Nick Crawl is not going to trade Hunter Green for a bunch of prospects that are going to single A. A trade of Hunter Green will bring back a bonafide major league power hitter. It just has to. There’s no other reason to make that level of talent. There’s no other reason to do that. You trade away a guy that’s really, really good when he’s in the rotation and you bring back a guy that in your hopes plays 150 games and hits 35, 40 home runs at Great American Ballpark. That’s the guy you’re going out there to get. And in addition to that guy, you’re getting some prospects that’ll sit down in the minor leagues and cook and add to your team for years to come. Hunter Green’s going to bring a big return if you do trade him. Now, they’re not they’re not required to trade him. they’re not locked in on trading him. There’s there’s no reason that if the market is not what Nick Crawl thinks it should be that Hunter Green’s not your opening day starter and well, you’ve still got a phenomenal rotation and you’ve got an ace guy starting opening day for the Reds. So either way, the Reds can win. They can win by having Hunter Green in this rotation and hope that everybody continues to develop and that other things fall into place or they trade away Hunter Green. They have a strong rotation anyway and they win by addressing those needs that we’ve been talking about since the season ended. The bullpen, the power hitter, the outfield, all of the things we know this team needs can be addressed with this Hunter Green trade. So, the Reds will be better in either scenario, whether it’s Hunter Green and you get more starts out of him or you’ve traded him and you filled all those holes. Either way, the team is better in 2026 than it was in 2025. Yeah, I reject a notion that just because you trade Hunter Green and it does not matter what the return is, you get back, your team got worse. Because I don’t believe like what Nick Crawl said that began this whole cycle was not, “Yes, we’re shopping Hunter Green around. We’re making sure that somebody wants this guy by the end of October or by the end of November. We’re we’re going to throw him away and and and get nothing for him.” It’s not what he said. He didn’t even really say, “Yes, Hunter Green is available. please give me a call at da da da. He basically just said, “No, we’re not not saying no, but we’re also not saying yes, but you know, whatever. This is a business.” Blah blah blah blah blah. He gave you the GM speak of not giving you an answer. And so that’s kind of where we started to roll and a lot of people started to roll with this rumor. And to look at it and say that, you know, it’s a win-lose scenario. You win if you keep them, you lose if you trade them. Is just a very very 2D way of looking at this. There’s a 3D angle and we are looking at the 3D angle here because the pitching staff is so strong when you look at who remains and then conceivably the guys that you could bring back if it’s you know that Boston trade that we had mentioned of Direan Duran the Password and Jen Stinson Garcia and uh Pton Tole who is a top pitching prospect in Major League Baseball. then you’re really cooking with gas if you turn one guy into those three. I want you guys. Yeah. Right. And I and I want you guys to know that that get into the comment section and you wonder whether or not we read every single comment and we process it. We do because I saw you guys in the comment sections yesterday asking why are we even talking about this? Why are we talking about this Hunter Green trade? Because Jim Bowden said something. Jim Bowden’s crazy. Well, it’s not because Jim Bowden said something. Jim Bowden piggybacked off of Mark Sheldon asking the question. Mark Sheldon, who covers this team, who follows this team. Mark Sheldon had to have heard something to go to Nick Crawl and say, “Hey, are you looking to trade Hunter Green?” That’s how it works, folks. When the beat writer has it first, when the beat writer is the one to this idea, they heard something. So, and it’s not like he asked about Nicloo. Yeah. He didn’t ask about He didn’t ask. Yeah. Yeah. We’re not running with this because Jim Bowden was trying to fill some time for the Nationals. No, this started off with Mark Sheling asking a very specific question about a specific player. You’re absolutely right, Jeff. He didn’t ask about what what starting pitchers are you looking to move. Uh what would you be willing to give up off the major league roster? No, he said, “Are you looking to trade Hunter Green?” So that tells me Mark Sheldon heard something. And I think that’s why we’re spending so much time talking about this is because in my mind it makes it credible. When you take all the things over the last couple years and and a beat writer asking that specific question, it lends credibility for me and it makes me want to at least ponder what that would look like for this ball club as it moves through the offseason. There’s smoke, right? I I I think that people want to ignore it when they don’t like it. And I think most people would hate the idea of trading Hunter Green, but I think it’s important to note that there are positive outcomes assuming that the right moves are made and the right decisions are made in this case. But at the same time, like I I I think it’s kind of funny that people are trying to completely ignore this. People would rather talk about Kyle Schwarber and you know how much smoke there is around the idea of Kyle Schwarber coming to Cincinnati. Mark Sheldon hadn’t asked anybody about that. See, Trent Rose hadn’t asked anybody. Nobody’s asked anybody about that. There there might be a coal like the size of my pinky and I got small fingers. So there might be like the little tiny coal that’s giving off like a little bit of smoke or something like just a tiny little bit, but there’s a whole lot more smoke on this side when it comes to the possibility of trading Hunter Green. That’s why we’re focusing so much on it. Absolutely. And and to the Kyle Schwarber thing, that’s clearly one of those deals where Nick Craw will be able to say, “Oh, we we checked in with Kyle Schwarber.” And Kyle Schwarber’s people will give Nick Craw a number and you know Nick Craw will be like, “I didn’t even know numbers went that high.” And that’s going to be the end of the checking in on Kyle Forb. We checked in on him and we started to talk about numbers and then all of a sudden we found ourselves discussing whether we like the chicken chili at Skyline Chili or not. Like I Yeah, it’s that’s what’s going to happen. So there there’s definitely a lot more coming from this and we will be all over any more reporting or any more added rumors that get uh any you know any more smoke that’s gets gets added to these uh possible Hunter Green trade rumors. But let’s move to uh what you had in mind because I know that it it relates to Nick Crawl and it relates to the front office because it’s a conversation that Lance and myself had and a question that you came away with because when it comes to trust in the front office, well, I mean, come on. The NFL season is in full swing. And honestly, there is nothing better than being in the stadium surrounded by fans cheering on your team. But let’s be honest, getting tickets can be a hassle. Between the cues, the login screens, and prices jumping at checkout, it’s very, very frustrating. That’s why I use Game Time. That’s why Jeff uses Game Time. The app gives you the advantage. The fan game time is fast, easy, and backed by the Game Time guarantee. 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Thank you for making Lockdown Reds part of your everyday routine. If you’re an everydayer, you’re awesome. And that means that you hit that subscribe button. If you’re not every day, hit the subscribe button here on YouTube or on your favorite podcast app. We’re free and available everywhere you get your podcast. And yes, the Bearcats are having a pretty good year. And I’m talking a lot more about that over on Locked on Bearcats as the Bearcats are headed for a possible Big 12 championship. Although they got a heck of a test this week against Utah. If you’re a Bearcats fan, go check out Lockdown Bearcats. I’d appreciate it if you did. They’re all right. All right, Steve. Lance and I were talking about this and and and even Mo and I talked about this a little bit after our our conversation about Ellie de la Cruz, but it’s the question that follows the main questions. There are a couple of main questions that surround this team, right? Is Hunter Green getting traded? Is Ellie de la Cruz a shortstop? Uh are they going to get a power hitter? The next step in all of those questions are, do you trust the Reds to make the right move? And it starts with Nick Crawl. It also includes Terry Franco. It includes everybody. But throughout our lifetimes, we can answer that. But moving forward, do we feel the same way? You know, this was a very interesting question. And the question that you and and and Lance kicked back and forth was, do you trust Nick Crawl to make these moves to take advantage of the Reds now being in this open window? Do you trust Nick Crawl in the front office to go get a bopper? Do you trust Nick Crawl in the front office to fix the bullpen and do the things? And we see this also down the street in the Dora. If you look at uh Por Stadium, uh Por Stadium uh houses an office for a guy who carries the title of general manager whose job is not really to build a winner. Uh and whose job is not tied to the performance and the results that we see on the field. God help us what we saw on the field last weekend against the freaking New York Jets. But that guy’s job is not tied to the team’s performance. He’s immune to it. I’m sad to say, and we’re going to spend some time talking about this this week, Jeff, because the way that baseball works in the city of Cincinnati now is different than how it’s ever worked before, and it’s different than how it works in a lot of other cities right now. Because Nick Crawl’s job is not tied to him taking this 82 win team and pushing it to be a 90 win team. Nick Crawl’s job is not tied to, well, you made the playoffs as a wild card. You better win the division this year. His job is not tied to that. His job is tied to putting a product on the field that can be in the conversation for a playoff spot and so that Bob and Phil make money. That’s Nick Crawl’s job description. And he is nailing it. He is crushing it. If you sat Phil Castellini down right now, if he we could pop him up on the screen and be like, “Hey, Phil, how you doing? listen, how would you categorize the 2025 season? He would be like, “It was a smashing success. We’re having a great year.” That’s how the ownership group looks at what the Reds did last season. They were in the conversation all year long. They got a lot of national buzz. They made the playoffs. Bob and Phil made their money. They won. They they that was a home run for the Castellini family. And Nick Crawl, he’s not on a hot seat. He’s not feeling any pressure. His job is to keep this team relevant in playoff conversation. and he can do that with a few small moves. And it’s not the Kyle Schwarbers and it’s not going out and having a press conference signing of a free agent. It’s just continuing to stay in the 85 win neighborhood. Just be above 500. And now that’s not to say that he’s not going to try. And we’ve talked about it with things he could do with Hunter Green. And we’ve talked about time and time again what he presented as his vision for continuing to keep the Reds relevant. It wasn’t building postseason winners. wasn’t building a new dynasty of World Series after World Series. What he talked about doing was keeping this roster competitive, which was the Tampa model, which is trade guys away as they’re running out of control. Bring in new guys, continue to restock and do that thing to keep this team in the conversation. The Hunter Green trade lines up with that, but he also has an opportunity to take advantage of the window. So sometimes things are going to align where he can build a better team. But there’s absolutely no expectation on Nick Crawl to put a 90- win team on the field. Nobody in that front office is is thinking that way. Nobody in that ownership group is thinking that way. Well, and let’s even take it a step further because there’s evidence to this and it’s not as if they’ve come out and said it, but let’s take everything into account here. It is clear that the main goal for the front office of the Cincinnati Reds is to take a budget spreadsheet and make sure that it’s in the black rather than in the red. And then whatever else happens after that is is gravy because you know how we know that’s true, you know how we know that’s true is Phil Castellini showed the spread seat sheet to the Rosie Reds. That’s absolutely what happened. That’s true. He did. He did actually come out and say it. But also, I believe this, had he not left of his own accord, Dick Williams would still be the president of baseball operations for this team. But he left of his own accord because this is the mandate. It is not Dick Williams wanted to build a winner. Dick Williams wanted to make this team a 90- win ball club, a division contender year in and year out. And they said, “But will that involve us going into the red at any point?” And he said, “I don’t care about that.” And and that is my assertion as to what happened. That’s not exactly how. And we’re gonna spend a lot of time picking that apart, folks. Put a little ping in that. Put a pin in what Jeff just said because there’s an episode coming later this week. We’re going to really dissect what Jeff just said. There’s layers to that onion and we’re and this is the top layer. We’ll definitely unpeel some more layers. um actually I believe on on tomorrow’s show, but when it comes to how Nick Crawl is operating, he is absolutely 100% in the bullseye of the target of what Bob and Phil have set up for him. So yes, as much as we complain and as much as we question whether or not he’s going to make the necessary moves, he’s already made the necessary moves in their minds. Yeah, I agree with that 100%. And I think it’s really hard to argue it any other way. There’s there’s really no way to to look at how this team operates and and come away with a different conclusion. Um now now people are probably saying, “Well, then why do you follow this team? Why cheer for this team? Why go to the ballpark? Why do the things?” Look, it’s still a fun team. It’s a fun team to watch. There’s a lot of talent, a lot of youth, a lot of cool baseball players to follow and keep track of. Also, Nick Crawl and the Castellini family are not going to thief my joy of being at Great American Ballpark. I love being down there and just watching baseball. Um, and the Reds have the potential to make the postseason in this new modern era of playoff format. So, that’s fun to watch, too. So, it’s all about layers. If you’re only if you’re only in it, if if this team’s not going to win 90 to 100 games, I’m out. I can respect that. I get that. And I get you wanting to jump and go be a a Dodgers fan or a Giants fan or a New York Mets fan or or whoever spending the most money fan. I get it. But for me, you know, I grew up on this team. I love this team. I love that ballpark. I love the energy of being down there at the banks. And you know, it’s it’s fun baseball to follow. Now, I don’t want multiple years of 50 win baseball, but I kind of can accept that they’re going to be battling for a playoff spot, not necessarily a division title, but we understand the assignment, right? Like that means that we know they’re not going to go out and sign Kyle Schwarber and Alex Bregman and Pete Alonzo and bring those guys in. They are going to look for the moves that fall within the black but make them competitive enough while also making them financially viable enough. That is the balancing act that Nick Crawl has to do and that is the thing that he has done the best during his tenure in the front office. It’s not as if he has willingly sabotaged this team to lose. It is that he has been given a budget to operate within and he is doing what he can within that budget within his constraints. He’s just never gonna go outside that as as much as you might want him to, that is not part of his job description because the moment that he does that is the moment that he gets placed on the hot seat. Yeah, absolutely. And and listen, we’re going to do uh we’re going to do an Aloha Friday live on Friday afternoon. Uh breaking news, we’re doing a live on Friday afternoon, guys. Um but you know, I can guarantee you when we get into the comments and when we get into the questions, a lot of people are going to want to talk about Kyle Schwarber. They’re going to want to talk about Pete Lonzo. They’re gonna want to talk about I I’m happy to talk about it, but I just I can’t I can’t I can’t put a straight face on and and try and convince you, the listeners and the viewers that there is there is a realm of possibility where we’re having a press conference with Nick Crawl and Kyle Schwarber holding up a jersey at Great American Ballpark. I I would go into shock. Listen, I would not know how to react to it. I can’t see a lane for something like that to happen. And and I I just I want to be realistic about it because and and Nick, if you want to take that as a dare, then please go ahead. Yeah, we double dog dare you to sign. All right. Listen, Jeff, as we don’t want this to be bleak. It’s not bleak, folks. There’s there’s lots of reasons to continue to be excited about this franchise, this entire system of baseball players. And we’re going to talk about some of them because there is some promise playing out in Arizona right now. If you can’t watch us here on YouTube, guess what? We’re in every single audio podcasting app pretty much that exists. Go find us there. Click subscribe. Get us an audio form. You can take us to the gym, take us in the car, take us on the road, take us on your jog. We’re happy to go along with you wherever you need us to be. All right, Jeeoff, let’s get into this because as as depressing as that last segment was, um there is some excitement brewing. There is some talent in the minor leagues, there’s a lot of promise coming along for this franchise, and some of them are being showcased out in the Arizona Fall League right now. And there’s one guy who is working his way back from injury that will absolutely be part of the Red’s 2026 plans. Yeah, let’s start with him because he’s the most important player currently out uh pitching for the Peoria Javalas. That is Rhett Lauder. Rhett Lauder has been pitching. He has he has made three starts. Each start he’s pitched about two innings. I think the last start he pitched the most pitches. It was into like the 60 pitch range. But he’s done such a good job with control. He has six strikeouts in those six innings compared to zero walks. And there have been no reports of discomfort. There have been no reports of well they got to push this start back or they he can’t do this or something like that. And quite frankly that is the biggest thing because as we mentioned even if Hunter Green is not traded I still think Louder is pushing for a rotation spot and one of the favorites to be one of the guys in the opening day rotation. And it’s good to see him feeling good and pitching out in Arizona. Yeah, I I don’t underestimate the importance of these innings that he’s logging out in Arizona right now. And and there’s there’s a crowd that’s like, well, that’s what he should do. He should go dominate those guys in Arizona. Yeah, you’re right. And the fact that he’s doing it is important because he’s out there right now working on can do I recover the next day? How do I feel after I’ve pitched? Does my arm loosen up the way that it’s supposed to? Do I feel the pitches in my hand the way that I should be? Do I have the command? Do I have the control? Am I able to do what I want to do? And the answer to all those questions right now are yeah, he’s doing great. And that’s important because now he gets through this fall league. He’s had a little bit of success. He kind of spins it back down for just a little bit and then begins a normal offseason program getting ready for spring training in Goodyear. I think these innings right now are really, really important for Rhett Lauder. And in case you’ve forgotten, I because I’ve I’ve missed being able to talk about Rhett Lauder. Rhett Lauder is one of my favorite pitchers to talk about, favorite types of pitchers to talk about at least because he is a smart pitcher, very cerebral. He understands the strategy of how to get a batter out. He understands the strategy of how to limit an opposing lineup. He’s a guy that ever since he was drafted. We’ve talked about the fact that he has had to pitch since high school. He’s never been a thrower. He’s not a guy that’s just going to rare back, throw 100 miles an hour, and just blow it past you. He’s going to be a guy that outthinks you. And so, I love watching pitchers like that. I love talking about pitchers like that. So, I’m really happy to see that he’s looking healthy and good and he’ll be good to go on a regular timeline once spring training gets going because I think he’s going to be an important pitcher for them next year. Totally agree. And, you know, he’s this is not the only guy out there. I I want to talk about somebody else that was out there and I was really excited to see him out there and it ended prematurely but you know our our our catcher apparent I guess the the guy that we’re waiting on in in Duno went out to Arizona and was having some success but a leg injury shut him down early. Um I’m not really discouraged by that. I would like to have seen him be healthy through the fall league. Uh, but looking at his body of work, I think he’s due to move up a level when spring when we get through spring training. He’s going to move up in the minor leagues. He’s still on track to kind of be where the Reds need him to be. Um, it’s it is getting close to go time for him to jump a level. So, um, I’m glad he got a little bit of extra work, get him through an offseason, get him back to spring training, get him moving forward. That’s the important thing, the the extra work part of this. This is not like they send them out to Arizona and they are like keying in on their box score and making sure that they have specific statistics or not. This is just about them seeing more pitches and playing more innings and getting more work out in the field and and all those different things. And I think there’s part of it that helps accelerate a player’s development, but not to the point that like, well, he was in Arizona, he’s getting called up next year. That’s not what we’re talking about here. But it’s definitely going to help his overall development down the road. And I’m with you the fact if he doesn’t play again in Arizona, which I don’t think he will. Like the injury wasn’t super serious at initial reporting, but they don’t like report on injuries in the Arizona Fall League like they report on injuries during the Major League Baseball regular season. So, it’s not as if we’re hearing an up tothe- moment update here. But, you know, being taken out of game, I can I can assume he’s not going to play again out in Arizona. But, there have been a couple of guys that have played really well in Leo Balazar and Cam Collier. Kim Collier really started off a lot more hot than he is now. Although his on base percentage is still in the Joey Vado range at 418, but his slugging percentage is heard it here first. Jeff just said Cam Collier is going to be the next Joey Vado. That’s what I heard. Joey Well, but also Leo Balazar actually has a higher on base percentage. So actually Lil Balazar is Joey. No, I take that back. That’s multiple Joey Vados in the Arizona folly now. Settle down. Settle down. Settle down. Settle down. Settle down. No, it’s good to see that success from those guys, too. And and listen, something that that Jeff, something you just said, I want to emphasize again, neither one of those guys are going to be in the reg 2026 plans. So, this is this is development. This is to get him going. I I could see Cam Collier double Alea over the 2026. Maybe like second half of the year he pushes further, but not but I don’t see him don’t see him on the big league roster in 2026. Same with Boxar. So, um good showings though. This is good. Again, it’s extra work. It’s extra at bats, it’s extra pitches, it’s just extra in in the development. And I’m excited to see these Red’s youngsters having some success out there. And I think there’s about three weeks left, including they they have like a couple of couple of games like Arizona League playoffs and stuff like that. So, there’s still some time left for them to get in more work and we’ll kind of give you like a final look in in a few weeks to see how they’re doing here. But it’s I I have liked that. There’s also some other pitchers that to be honest with you, I don’t know much about. I know Kevin Ael has pitched one game. He is a Red’s minor league pitcher who is out there. We’ve also um seen uh Jonathan Harmon who is a Red’s minor leaguer who’s out there. He’s pitched in a couple of games. Not looking so great though. Eight strikeouts to six walks. Um and just overall like these guys are just getting in the work. They’re doing the things. Trevor Kungl out there as well again. Nine strikeouts, five walks. really would like to see a little bit better from that. But he is a guy that there’s been some some, you know, Doug Gray and and and our friend uh our friend uh wow, you all right over there? I just forgot what I was going to say. Anyway, folks who know uh a lot more about the Red Mine Leagues than we do really have keyed in on Trevor Kungl as a as a guy. Their names. They know their names. Boy, this is Tuesday, huh? Tuesday, Jeff, you’ve been working too hard. And that is where we’re going to go ahead and wrap it up for today. Folks, thanks as always for making Locked on Reds your first listen each and every day. We really appreciate it. Go check out the Locked On MLB channel. Uh Sully’s over there doing a great coverage, giving you a national perspective um as the World World Series begins to come to an end. Sully will have you covered. Baseball MLB game night is happening over there, too, all the way through the end of the World Series. Go check those guys out for your second listen. And until next time, we’ll keep gathering up the news, the notes, the rumors, the reports, and the information, and bring it right back here to keep you locked on Reds every single day. Seven years and I finally trip over a name and forget what I’m saying. Oh boy. It’s usually me with the names. Like, I’m the one that struggles with the names. Got to make sure we get it tomorrow. Slump cannot acrewue.

The Cincinnati Reds face a pivotal decision regarding Hunter Greene’s future. Could trading the young ace actually benefit the team? Steven Offenbaker and Jeff Carr analyze the potential impact on the rotation, exploring how Nick Lodolo, Brady Singer, Chase Burns, and Rhett Lowder could step up. They dissect Nick Krall’s front office strategy, comparing it to the Tampa Bay Rays’ model of sustained competitiveness. The hosts also provide updates on Rhett Lowder’s impressive Arizona Fall League performance. Is Krall’s approach the right path for long-term success? Get the full scoop on Greene’s trade value and the Reds’ organizational philosophy in this episode.

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0:00 Intro: Cincinnati Reds without Hunter Greene
3:03 Potential post-Hunter Greene rotation for Cincinnati Reds
6:14 Trading Hunter Greene could improve Cincinnati Reds
9:57 Nick Krall’s job security and team goals
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18:21 Balancing fan expectations with team realities
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13 comments
  1. I mean honestly how many starters u need? A rotation of 1 Andrew Abbott 2 Nick lododo 3 Chase Burns 4 Rhett Lowder 5 Brady Singer with possible littlle back or Martinez is still pretty good. Better than most staffs.

  2. I say trade Green and Elly too just look at the numbers someone needs to stop looking at speed and get a grip on reality……throwing 100mph won’t get people out if you’re on the dl….and you can’t steal a base if you can’t hit and stop shoving these down our throats they are not even average how many errors did he have how many times did he whiff!!!

  3. Don’t trade Greene! You need him if you want to win a WS. Open up the pocket book and sign a free agent. If you can’t do that then you can’t win a WS. There aren’t enough innings built up in the rotation to fill that role. Lodolo is a health risk, Burns is coming off a short season, Lowder is unproven and doesn’t have innings built up.

  4. After making it a point to get Hunter on multiple fantasy and dynasty leagues over the past 3 years, I have come to believe he is not going to reach the ceiling we had for him. If he does, he won't do it often. He cannot stay on the field and I too question his attitude. If we could get a good power bat, that is a win to me.

  5. Whether it would hurt the Reds is different than whether or not it would be beneficial for the Reds. The White Sox's had high price for Chris Sale trade but nothing turned out. Max S to the Dodgers seemed like a win for the Nationals but they don't have anything to show for it 4 years later. Name me a good trade of a Star SP that turned out for the team trading the player?? Trade prospects (not stars) not established MLB stars

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