LIVE REACTION POSTGAME SHOW: New Orleans Pelicans vs Denver Nuggets
[Music] This program is brought to you by FanDuel, where we give sports fans the chance to win every Okay, your New Orleans Pelicans have started on four for the first time since 2019 2020. Nobody else is going to talk about it, so I guess we got took [Music] away. Welcome to another episode of Propel Talk. I am your host Chris Connor. The energy is back. Energy is back. Heart and soul pel soul tonight. Somebody got have it. Leo. Um, we gonna talk about the outfit later, but he’s here. We got Justin here. You know, off a few off Justin here off off a few drinks. Happy birthday, Ros the biggest boss. Ross, y’all, everybody in the chat, y’all do me a favor. Ris wish our dog Ross a happy birthday. He’s probably drunk right now. He probably doesn’t even know the game. Am I allowed to drink on the show or is that Yes, you are. Yes, you are. Because we all professionals if you notice up top. There’s a bunch of sponsorships, right? And we gonna get to those. But I want you to notice that this game was so bad. LA hasn’t even had the chance to put the score in. But it doesn’t matter cuz they losing by 40 points, 30 points. The score is blank cuz that’s what this game was. Blank. But shout out to people that support us here. John Deere, Sunshine, Taz, FanDuel. Of course, if you if you bet the Pelicans were losing tonight by 12 the third quarter, it was over with. I think the live the live um the live spread count was like 12 and a half. Nuggets, you was by third quarter, you was good. You was good. Scott Vigner as well fight for the win. We don’t know when the Pelicans will fight for a win ever again, but we’ll be here to cover it. Um Justin, fire Willie. I don’t just fire Willie. Just it’s over. It’s over. I I don’t want to hear I don’t want to see him coach another basketball game. Whether you think he’s the problem or not, I don’t want to see him coach another basketball game. Promote James Burgago, fire Willie Green, keep the other coaches on on set and then go from there. This guy stinks, okay? And he stunk has for two years now. Actually, he stunk for four. Okay? The 49 win season we tried telling you was all [ __ ] It was all [ __ ] Well, guess what? Here we are. Like I I just look Chris, I’m not I’m seriously not trying to be funny. I’m not trying to be funny. But you just came off a 20 You just came off a 21 season. You traded your first round pick unprotected. You traded your Pacers pick. Okay, you’re all in this year. Whether you like it or not, whether you think it’s a good move, a bad move, it doesn’t matter. You’re all in right now. My bad. Five. What up, five? You don’t have the luxury to [ __ ] wait. You got to make a move now. Okay. Yeah. It’s over. Fire him. Promote Burgago and go from there. Welcome to the show. Five. Um. Okay. Yeah. It’s almost like we we almost switched the tire in in a sense. I got I got your shirt on. You got a dorag I will have on. You know what I mean? Um so Soul running. Yeah. Yeah, man. Yo, yo, shout out to Yeah, um Leo, I’m just gonna flat out ask you. Did the Pelicans quit on Willie Green? I don’t know, but I quit on them. What does that mean? I I They like They They They won, bro. They won. They did. They They They won. They They broke my spirit in four games. They won. Oh, you the I won today. No, don’t be a loser. No, Leo. They a Don’t let them win. Don’t let them win. Don’t let them win. They’re [ __ ] losers. Don’t let them win. Nah. Nah. I got too much respect for you, bro. I got too much respect for you. I saw the starting lineup with a man who was on Instagram playing basketball last week and he was starting and like they got Leo. They got civil rights version civil rights leader version DeAndre Jordan starting bro in the year 2026. It is it’s it’s got like like imagine being in jail for the past six years, right? And then you get out today and you turn on the Pelicans Nuggets game. You’re like, “Oh, this should be a good game.” Like, you know, Yoko DeAndre Jordan still playing. He started. He must be playing good. No, he literally just signed a week ago and he started now. Wait, five, I want to ask you a question. I thought the game was over in the second quarter. Evei probably who probably outside of the end of that quarter for Trey had the best let’s say run of that of the game whatever it’s whatever that’s worse Jeremiah Fierce has some has some good players but Eve me the lineup that got the Pelicans to within six before half he was the center so you would think you’re 0 and three you’re on the road in a game you have no business winning first game of the road trip. You are coaching for your life. You would think or shouldn’t you think I should probably start the third quarter with this lineup with this big or as you say like most games the game was lost between break between the second quarter and the start of the third quarter. Go ahead. Yeah man it’s over them boy. Hey, hey, if if there was call this analysis. Yeah. Yeah. If there was any uh doubt or thought of when the Pelicans quit on Willie Green, the evidence is clear tonight. That third quarter, it was abysmal. To even start, just look at it. Just go back and watch the tape. You might cry. You might you might need to cut it up in segments. But dog, it’s over for the man. I hope Joe, you know what? You know what’s crazy? You know you know what’s Joe? If you don’t fire him, we got to talk about you, dog. To keep it to keep What that say about you, man? What’s that say about you, dog? Hey, and we could we could get it cracking if you want. There you go. Talk to him. I don’t want to. Don’t let the do-rag and red hoodie fool you. We can get it popping. It’s It’s terrible. I love this show. No, it’s terrible, man. Uh if you just like the stark difference between Denver running in offense in the Pelicans is it’s not even like night and day. It’s like this is pee-wee basketball and this is like highlevel NBA basketball that we got. It’s not even It’s not even close, dog. Wait, hold on. I’m looking up videos right now. Leo, go ahead. No, he he right cuz I was thinking about this as I was sitting on my sofa like trying to console myself. Yeah. Thinking about like how terrible. What does that look like, bro? It just like like bro just you like insane. Hey, you know what’s crazy? I asked her last week. I was like, “Yo, you want to watch the Pelicans?” And you know what she said? No. No. I was like, “Yo, you [ __ ] smart, man. Can’t get a baby to watch the Pelicans, man. Can’t get a baby.” Hey, but I was about to say 95, right? Cuz I was thinking about this as I was sitting on the sofa. How we make this right? Hold on. Welcome Chaz to the show, Chaz. What’s up, brother? And I was I was saying I was saying like, “Damn, dog. I probably go tomorrow and like Willie Green still a coach. I was like I think like so Joe think I’m a hoe, right? I don’t [ __ ] It’s me. It’s me. It’s us. Wow. Um Shaz, welcome to the show, man. Uh Space African Jesus, appreciate you. Uh, I believe I gotta I gotta show some more love here to the other the the other 20 PS, man. I mean, um, where say 504 boy as always, man. Happy look, uh, Chaz, you were you were live streaming the game. Um, I really before you get into your overall comments of the thought of the game, I want to know your thoughts of that third quarter. One of the worst third quarters I think I’ve ever watched. Once again guys, if you did not know, the Pelicans are on four for the first time since n since 2019 2020 or it 2018 Z’s first year, whatever it was. Go ahead, Chaz. The third. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yo, I think uh having a blast. What? I missed it, man. Look, it’s not all this person’s fault. Of course not. My bad, sir. But I I really think I think you might have to really consider not playing Herb at all because this is this is what happened in this this is the run and it was like so painfully obvious what like like what happened here that it was just crazy, bro. Like okay, Herb one-on-one with Jokic just again just goes rogue. Just goes rogue. Blows a layup. They go down. Score. Bam. Okay. Zion turn around. Sevenfooter misses. They go down. I think they miss. Herb gives up a offensive board. Three. You look, you blink and it’s a 14 [ __ ] point lead. Herb comes down, shoots a a three at the top of the key, misses. Right. This is Yeah, this is a Shout out to some of these people in the chat. Shout out to B. time was it Trey? David Okana, E dog, all that was in in the live stream. We watching this in disbelief and everybody is like her, stop shooting the ball her do anything else, right? Nobody gets another look. Nobody. It was just abysmal. Then there’s a 50-50 ball. We didn’t get 50-50 balls all night. Trey gives up an offensive board on the 50-50 ball, which leads to another three. It was unbelievable, dog. like it was just there’s several to me it you know I’m not a you know I am a conspiracy guy but this looked like collusion and I don’t think it’s collusion from the standpoint of like the players just rebelling. I think again you got to get Willie Green and everyone he likes or who likes him out of the building. Like I’ve been saying this for so long now it just seems crazy. You gotta get everybody he’s fond of and who’s fond of him out of the building. Yeah. What about What about What about like I mean when you say everybody, you mean like you mean like ball boys? You mean like equipment? I mean everybody everybody like who shake Willie Green hand with an open hand instead of a fist bump. Get him out the [ __ ] building. This [ __ ] right? Just think about the gall of a [ __ ] You down 30, right? You down 30. The team still kind of fighting. You’re down 30. He in the middle of the huddle with his head down drawing up play. This This is how you know. This is This is how you know. This is This is how you know this [ __ ] This [ __ ] got the the the balls of a lion or the brains of a [ __ ] parrot. This [ __ ] had the audacity. After he finished after he finished, he went like this. All right. Now team on three. One, two. What are you doing? No, I I Okay, look, look, look. I I want to I want to get Justin back involved here. Uh first now, you know you know we’ve been we’ve been kind of chilling off playing the videos, man. But look, I’m just I’m just going to tell y’all when I saw DeAndre Jordan starting was starting. Okay, once again, civil rights leader version of DeAndre Jordan was starting Frederick Douglas. He started the f brother Jordan. He he a brother Jordan was starting the first quarter and then when the lead was after not playing in any of any of the the parts where the Pelicans did anything well on the basketball floor, they brought him out on they brought him out to start the third like get the [ __ ] out of here. Take that dumb [ __ ] with you. What are we doing, William? Why are we They go to score. They went back to back games again and didn’t score 100 in the year. In the the year 2025, they can’t they can barely crack 90, dog. DeAndre Jordan. DeAndre Jordan was starting a game in 2025 and they thought they ain’t gonna see this coming. Got something for him. You like the dick. You won’t believe what I have up up my sleeve. DeAndre Jordan. No disrespect to DeAndre Jordan. With disrespect, what do you want me to Look, we got no disrespect, Justin. No disrespect. Respect. Uh, we got 450 people. A couple of things. One, make sure you subscribe to channel, hit the like button. Uh, two, Chaz, there are a couple questions of where people can find your stream. So, I think it’s at Chaz on YouTube. Yeah, on YouTube. Just chat Chaz on YouTube. Do we have any shirts? Do we have You said we have some shirts, right? If we start off for Do we not have any shirts? Uh, I’m still I’m still doing a raffle for the people in the channel. Man, we still gonna do it because I gotta this point I I gotta give the people something. But yeah, so we gonna do it. Just DM me your email address. I was at a I was at a bar tonight celebrating Ross birthday. Happy birthday, Ross. Game went on birthdays. Game game went on. Couldn’t watch the game. Lo bar New Orleans. Couldn’t watch the game. Um I didn’t know. So I I think there’s actually an interesting I would like to hear y’all’s thoughts on this. So they start DeAndre Jordan, but they bench Jordan P. Jordan P responds by going two of 11 from the field, one of seven from deep, four of four from the free throw line, a negative 35 in 22 minutes. And from all the highlights I saw, there was a I guess a clip of Jordan Pool hitting a three and staring at Willie Green. His first shot. He made his first shot. Shot. He made his first shot and stared at Willie Green, right? Yep. Like he has completely lost the team. And he’s lost the team. Not He’s lost the coaching staff. He’s lost the team. And this isn’t game four. He’s lost it for two years. He’s not a good head coach. He’s not a good motivator. He’s not a good X’s and O’s guy. His thing is defense. and they stink defensively. They can’t get back. They can’t stop the ball. They can’t rotate correctly. They have no rim protection. They have nothing. He sucks. And I hate saying that. He sucks. You have to fire him tonight. It is over. I am so sick and tired. And by the way, we’re talking 0 and4. We can’t even tank because we don’t have a first round pick. I don’t think we’re talking about this enough. We can get run out of the building every single night, but you can’t get run out of the building every single night when you don’t have a first round pick. And by the way, the first round pick that they did trade him that they the trade they traded for in Derrick Queen, he played 14 minutes tonight. What the [ __ ] is the process? What are we doing? If you’re going to say you traded for Derrick Queen, then play him whether you like it or not. But to play him 14 minutes to literally sacrifice your future for this guy, for this kid, and then not play him, what are we doing? What is this? What are we watching? Like, the process is terrible. The process is terrible. And the people that defend Gail and defend ownership and defend, y’all suck, too. Okay, y’all are the [ __ ] problem as well. Appreciate Appreciate Chris Conor, man. Uh, is there early trade [ __ ] say this season? Hey, uh, Leo, appreciate your Chris Connor. I’m assuming that’s X, but if it’s not, Chris Connor, shout out to you, bro. What’s up, Chris? Uh, Leo is crazy. I I was just gonna say, man, honestly, Josh, I’m on the opposite side of that tape. Good. Be on the opposite side. I don’t care. You stink, too. Stay on that side. I just feel like I just feel like you need to stay on that side. You need to understand what side you want to stay there at. I I really feel like you gotta give much respect to Bill Green because What’s wrong with you? Me? A lot. A lot. I feel like I feel like we got to really give Bill Green Bill Green credit in this situation. It only took him [ __ ] man. It took him four games to break Jordan Pool. Like like he he been in the NBA seven years and it took four games. World champ, man. Had a fight with his teammate and Bill Green broke him. Damn. It’s kind of impressive, man. It’s kind of It’s kind of impressive what he does to offensive players, man. I’m telling you, bro. Impressive. I can’t think he I can’t think of one thing Willie Green does impressive. Not Not one. No, nah. Like I anybody I can’t I can’t even fathom but anything. But um yeah, I talked about DeAndre Jordan. He know 911. William Green. Yeah, I I could see him playing on like a TV show. Maybe he came down here for like NOPD. They need people. I mean, they need help. Let them join the blue. Back to blue. What are we supposed to talk about? I think I think Jeremiah Fears go. Sorry, Ch. Honestly, I don’t think he played well either. I I I just look at the box score. I really didn’t see see my box score. I’m literally box score watching. He’s 10 of 15. I I think I think and again I can only blame Willie for this. Jeremiah Fez at this stage in his career is a score score first guard. He’s just looking to score like he’s he’s too young. He shouldn’t be out there with these types of guys at this stage like with that starting unit. So there was a there was one sequence this in the third quarter and to me this is sums up the game. Third quarter Jeremiah Fish got the ball in the right wing. Zion’s on the left corner. The ball never makes it past like the right side of the free throw line. The ball gets knocked out of bounds. J dribbling the ball. Ball get knocked out the bound. Zion inbounds the ball, kicks it to Herb. Herb it got they got like nine seconds left on the clock. Three from the top of the key. Boying. To me, that’s just like what in the [ __ ] are you doing? Because not only that, it’s like yo, these dudes fought back in the third. They got the game within a reasonable margin. Trey kind of finding his groove a little bit. Well, in the second find his groove a little bit at the end. You got the You get the ball one onone with Yogic. You can bring it down to about three three-point lead. Brick that. It It was just an avalanche of bad plays. I think Fizz was just he was really just looking to score, I think. And I don’t blame him because you’re not really supposed to be out there with the starting unit. Like if if I’m like Chris the photo you put the photo the Chris the photo you put in the first half when you got like four players guarding Zion on the left. Oh god. And it’s like if you Willie Green Willie Green upload that please. No Willie Green got like like a lot of Ted Bundy in his coaching style cuz this is a torturous [ __ ] This [ __ ] this [ __ ] sadistic. You need you need offense desperately, right? You need offense desperately. Desperately, right? You need shooting desperately, right? You change the co the lineup just for no reason. When the and the obvious answer in the lineup is you need to take her about the game and and probably start sadik. That’s the obvious lowhanging fruit answer, right? Even Willie Green couldn’t [ __ ] that up, right? Wrong. Stop. thought Herb got like like this light behind. See this? See this light right here? That’s Herb’s light. That’s Herb and Jose’s light right there. That’s her that that neon green [ __ ] light for the audio listeners. That’s Herb and Jose’s light right there. Right. You start you start DeAndre Jordan for God knows what reason. Right. It’s just so inexplicable. I don’t get it. So you got your starting lineup when you need offense is Herb Jones, Jeremiah Fez, Trey Murphy, Zion, and uh DeAndre Jordan. So basically, it’s three on five. No, two on five. Basically, it’s it’s two on five on offense. Two on five. What the What the [ __ ] are you doing? Yo, great question, my dog. Now, here’s the thing, right? To me, I’m because I’m basing this on Trey’s first two shots. First shot, nice floater off the glass, misses. Second shot, blown layup at the rim, initiates contact, gets to the rim, doesn’t finish, right then. But if I’m a good team, if you notice, not get no open looks. That’s not an excuse. Make your [ __ ] shots, taking tested shots, and knock them down. But when you playing two on five offensively, the other team ain’t worried about nobody else. I’m not going run out to guard. No [ __ ] uh what’s his name? Jeremiah Ferris. Herb going to travel and just turn the ball over. So I’m definitely not going her like first play steps out of bounds. Second play travels. That’s his second tra. They don’t even call travel the one NBA. He traveled again. Yes. Traveled again tonight. Yes. Come on man. Come on man. Like though that’s the thing is like I’m not guarding none of these [ __ ] out here. I’m not guarding DeAndre Jordan. I’m not guarding I’m not running out to contest none of these people. What’s the point? What’s the point? Hey Justin, what? I I almost called you tonight like I That’s great. Who’s that in the corner? Is that Herb in the corner? Is that Herb and Jeremiah FZ both on the [ __ ] right corner? The beauty of it, Jamal Murray’s guarding both of them. Jamal Murray’s guarding. That’s what I mean. Both of them with him back turned. He don’t give a [ __ ] what happens. The worst part is Zion actually score on this play. Is that right? Did Zion score? I don’t I don’t even know, bro. Go ahead. He traveled twice. I didn’t even know that. What are you going to say, Leo? Hey, Josh. I I I um I almost called you in the third quarter, dog. Yeah. And I almost told you uh I almost literally called you to quit doing this podcast. Don’t like are we are we going to take the Panthers route? That Panthers podcast route. Quit just say we quit. We’ve had enough. No, man. I’m not letting these [ __ ] people win. Absolutely not. No. not letting him off the hook. No, Willie Green not letting him win either. [Laughter] Do y’all I’m serious when I ask this. I’m serious when I ask this. Do y’all think Willie gets fired tomorrow? Oh man. No. No. I’m like in all honesty. Do y’all I think I think it happens. I really think it happens. What’s the overunder? Well, it can’t be an overunder. Like I guess we could put odds. We could put You’re not a betting. What’s the odd? What’s the odd? What’s up? Shout out to FanDuel. Yeah, shout out FanDuel. I like Leo, like I I just don’t I I just don’t see how you can move forward after back-to-back 30point losses in a season. Once again, I keep saying this. You don’t have a firstround pick. You traded it for Derek Queen. So, Derek Queen played 12 minutes. I wanna I want to say something real quick to your to your point. The earliest a coach per my per my notes here. The earliest a coach in the NBA has been fired. Has been fire. You got the polo on my w. Huh? You way more. You way more in your notes than me. Uh, no. No, no, no, no. Um, in NBA history is Sydney Low 0203 with a record of 0 and8. But the earliest in Pelican/h Hornets history, y’all said Monty. Any any other guesses? Oh, Hornets history. Uh, was it Byron Scott? Byron Scott after a three and six start of his sixth season with the Hornets in the 09. Did he make it to the playoffs year before? He made the playoffs year before, right? Yeah. They got stumped out bad, I think, by Denver, right? By is that when they lost for like 60 at home? That was like the worst playoff loss. Something like that. Yeah, I think so. Those are the those are the fastest. Um there’s another one here. So nine games, nine games, but eight games seems to be the uh the earliest a coach. So if if Willie was to be fired, the Pelicans I mean they would I mean set another I mean hey I mean you you you’d make history this year. You know Oh, go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. I I just want to say um I think I have a theory that players are purposely playing bad. Yeah. Z didn’t try tonight. Zion did not try tonight. I I think they sense like they need a change and something is holding them back. They cannot go forward. Like I have not seen Herb Jones play this bad ever consecutively like this. It just Trey Murphy the same way. Like he doesn’t seem like himself. This doesn’t look like two players that should be what I what I would believe to be ascending at this current point in their careers just going through the motions. Um Willie is just holding them back at this point. Like and if you’re if you’re Joe, you got to look at it you gota look at it from this standpoint like Trey Herb Zion they were born into toxic toxicity like with the just in the basketball sense you don’t want to do the same thing to Jeremiah fears and Derek Queen like you got to get some kind of foundation so I I think the next step is really just kind of clear clearing cleaning the slate, clearing the slate, giving them a fresh foundation, giving them somebody to just teach them basketball, teach them a a sense of NBA basketball because this ain’t it. Like, these dudes just playing pickup right now, man. You know, pickup, you know, Alito, Alto, I want to ask you, man. Um, we talked about this Tuesday, Tuesday morning. It it’s it’s not like firing Willie Green fixes everything, right? This team still has flaws. Shout out to the 700 people that are in here. By the way, man, if you have not like, please, man, subscribe to the show. Hit the like button, man. Get in the comments. Chop it up with us, man. We appreciate all of y’all. Y’all just as sick as we are like at 10:30 here. Y’all y’all y’all know better, no worse than us. uh Leo, but it’s not like Willie Green being fired fixes everything. But can you can you go into some of the things that immediately James Burgago, I mean, Geron Collins, uh you know, who who Cory Brewer, who whomever the coach is does fix or help immediately? Frank from UNO. frame. Yep. Try frame. Yep. Well, Chris, I honestly I could give you a great example tonight. You started DeAndre Jordan. Like I Can we get a picture of DeAndre Jordan, please? Can someone please please get a picture of DeAndre Jordan? Look, man, if you want if you are if you are a veteran, go ahead, Chaz. Y’all think he knew that he was starting to Hell no. He was too. Oh [ __ ] You see what’s that? What’s that gif? What’s the like react strap? I got to find like you had you had you had Zion on the floor. You had Zion on the floor with one shooter being Trey in that lineup. Like one shooter in 2025. You are able to create a lineup that has one shooter. You You know how talented that is? You know, you know, all the all the rotations that you could have came up with and you basically playing four people in the paint. This man started tonight, guys. What do you think he telling Zion right now? I think he said Dolomite. You do know a man by the name of Willie Green, don’t you? That’s what That’s what I think he said, son. I think um you know, man, I I agree with Chris, though. I I think I think it’s deeper than rap and I think again a lot of things where it was like yo you might need to consider this in the offseason if you really trying to take a step you got to just rip the band-aid totally off and go get like you know some real deal guys cuz you like all right bro somebody type it like type any fan in here go type in Dyson Daniel’s name right now type on Twitter name his name right now. You can’t start and pay people like that today. The league is just getting more and more talented. Like you just can’t [ __ ] do it, bro. Like you got to have some real [ __ ] guys out there. And like to Chris’s point is to me even if you fire Willie Green like if I’m if I’m Berego whoever takes over at the helm I’m like you and you y’all just might not be playing and you gonna have to just deal with it bro. It it is what it is. You might you might be in a Timothy Mosgov type situation right now with her. You just might be with um with Jose. [ __ ] out of here. Just just totally [ __ ] out of here cuz he is insane too. This mother I’m talking about this insane right look disheveled play disheveled everything about him is just unckempt [ __ ] got the ball right two it’s two two in one it’s him and Trey mind you him and Trey Trey passing the balls anybody with logic is going to up fake pass the ball back to Trey he shoots it misses of course right first his first first defensive possession by I’m talking about this [ __ ] jumped out his shoes on on on the [ __ ] puppet on my [ __ ] drove. What are you doing? What are you doing? Get out of here, man. Why are you on the court, man? Get the [ __ ] up out of here. Okay. So, so, so this this this is how bad it is. Okay. I don’t know how many times in history that this team has lost back-to-back games at least what by 30 points or more. I want to bring it to you to to your attention, Justin. They allowed exactly 122 points backtoback games. They scored 90 at home without Zion. They scored 88 tonight with Zion. Yep. He can’t see Los Angeles Friday as a member of the New Orleans Pelicans. He being Willie Green. If he wants to go to Los Angeles by himself and go shopping and make his own arrangements back to New Orleans, you shouldn’t even send him a You shouldn’t even send him a flight back. No, sorry, Will. We’re going to have to take this take this trip without you. We’ll help you arrange your things when you get back to New Orleans after the trip. No, it’s so bad. Like, tonight was so I’m serious. I only got to watch two minutes of the game. It’s so bad though that Jordan Hogers played eight minutes tonight. I went 0 for five and 0 for four from deep with nobody. When did he play? He played man. You got to keep the streak alive. I think Willie Willy’s really bad. But look, Willie is really bad. But there are players that are just embarrassing themselves. Her Herb Jones has been atrocious. So, it’s the job of the coach to instill confidence so they play better. So, so Willie Green tonight said, “We have to believe in each other.” And I said, “Well, it’s hard. It’s hard. No one It’s hard to believe when no one believes in you, right?” And so, like I think, are you talking about yourself, Willie? Like, what the [ __ ] No one believes in Willie Green. And and like it it it’s very apparent like Jared you and I talk about this all the time about and like you’re completely right about instilling confidence in a player. That’s like that’s like one of the coaches like main jobs is to do that and Willie Green doesn’t do that. Like I I still can’t believe the fact that Derrick Queen played 14 minutes tonight. But just talk about the process of this Shaz like talk about the [ __ ] process. Like forget X’s and O’s. Forget the game. You have once again given up your future for this kid whether you like it or not. Whether you agree or you don’t, you play him 25 minutes a night, I don’t care. You play him. If he misses a rotation, you miss a rotation. He was bad last game. I get it. He’s a rookie. He’s going to make mistakes. But then you go back and go 14 minutes tonight. You start DeAndre Jordan. What the [ __ ] are we doing? But see, it wasn’t even just that he played 14 minutes. It’s the substit. And who was he surrounded by, Chaz? Who who was their queen surrounded by? probably some [ __ ] bums. But it still was like, “All right, so it was weird, bro. It’s like, look, check this out.” So, so you so Vine goes out for Sadique Bay and it’s like, “All right, what the [ __ ] He he played like five minutes.” So, you took him out, I think he scored twice and they took him out the game or some [ __ ] right? So, it’s like, uh, okay, whatever. So, you take him out the game. Um, then Jordan Pool came in like the end of the quarter. Everything about it was weird. I’m telling you, to me, this struck me as a [ __ ] who kind of about to get fired. It was just throwing everything at the wall, bro. That’s really how it struck me. You want You want to hear something crazy, too, Chris? So, back toback games, we gave up 122, right? Yep. Back-to-back games, Trey Murphy scored seven points. Oh my goodness. Five. Five. So that that means I don’t think he scored in the second half. I I don’t I don’t think No, he didn’t. He didn’t score in the second half. I think he got a shot in the second half attempts. Wait a minute. He had eight field goal attempts. Him and N both had eight field goal attempts. He shot 12 and a half% from the field tonight. Five. They’ve lost their last two combined games by 66 points. you were going you were you you you were mentioning how it’s a coach’s job to instill confidence. It’s also a coach’s job to instill any type of structure that provides spec well offensively provides an opportunity to open up easy or even moderate looks. Denver was able to do it all night. Boston all night just simply by using each other. Not simp not iso basketball. You operate, you operate on the wing, the attention comes to you and we hope from there the basketball finds the open person. No, we you are seeing teams consistently run plays that get people open. The Pelicans are are unable to do it and when they do, they miss the shots. And you know what, f this crazy the crazy thing about it is what the what teams have been doing is taking advantage on the Pelicans in regards to them not grabbing rebounds. Denver didn’t even do that. They even crashed the boards. They didn’t care. It didn’t matter. They knew that we would be having this dumb conversation again about them losing by almost 40 points. I I do think other teams watch this podcast and like, yeah, Pelicans suck. Even their fans don’t believe in them. Um Willie doesn’t do anything well. He doesn’t instill confidence. He doesn’t even instill fear, right? Like the opposite end of that. Like they don’t fear you. They don’t respect you. They don’t love you. Just leave. Just go somewhere else. Like like it’s it’s up dog. Like even you know like I respect you more like I’mma just turn in the keys dog. Like it’s it’s me. It’s not y’all. It’s me. And I’mma just bow out like JCole. Just just remove yourself from the beef. Although you started the beef, just remove yourself so other people can go and live their life so we can have a good basketball team. You’re doing it. Do it for New Orleans. You said you love New Orleans, right? That’s what you said in your introductory press conference. You like the people here. Well, well, love them enough to leave them. Leave us be. Go do something else. You probably will be a fire D3 high school lower level basketball coach, maybe middle school. That that might be your forte. Matter of fact, athletic director, that could be you. That could be you, dog. You can wear your Pas like he played in the NBA. Like, wow, he’s inspiring. You can have your generator keys and everything. You ain’t got to do nothing else. Just don’t talk basketball. Just Just leave that alone. Leo, if you were Willie Green at this point, would you resign? Hell no. What? [ __ ] no. Why not? I’m keep keep cashing these checks. Y’all tripping. I’mma I’mma let First class amenities. It’s It’s guaranteed already. You gonna get your money regardless. You kidding me? Yeah. He’s You going You gonna get your money on the couch, Leo? I know y’all y’all hate me. I know y’all hate me. They won’t even introduce me in the in the in the in the arena. You probably I’mma keep making y’all mad. Like I actually like No, dog. He ain’t gonna resign. He’s never gonna resign. They really They really uh gave him a coach of the month once. Y’all remember that? Forget. Yeah. No. No. No. They did. It’s you know, it’s crazy, man. I mean, I Brandon Ingram gets traded and both both teams suck. Ne No one no one got better. No, no, nobody got better. I’m I’m I’m serious. You had to watch Bruce Brown make a three tonight. Justin Bruce Brown looked like a basketball player again today. The great Bruce Brown. One through five. I’m I’m serious and sincere when I ask this, but like what are we going to do? You talking about us? What do you mean we? No, I No, I mean like what are the Pel like seriously like we going to pot this? Of course we’re going to pot. This is shaping up to be this is honestly shaping up to be a disaster. Yo, you you you know you know what’s funny? I was thinking about this earlier. I was thinking about this earlier like the the off season they said they were going to win 30 and a half games and I was we you know everybody but Ross was just like nah like I might win less than that like like I don’t think they’re this Leo I don’t think they’re this bad. I don’t they they own four. No, I get it. I don’t think they’re this bad though. 705 people are in here right now man. Crazy. 700. Justin, imagine imagine if they were good. We always say it. Hey, spot. By the way, I want to shout everybody on the stream in Ross, too. But we’re about to do our 500th episode on Sunday. 500th episode together on Sunday. So, shout out to all y’all. We doing all the doing something special. What’s up, ring? But 5. You know what? Maybe we can drink on the show again. Maybe a bottle. Margaritas. Yeah, we do margaritas. And now you’re still about to be my neighbor for where? Yeah. Well, I don’t got I don’t got that kind of money, but I’m saying like he ain’t going to be too far. Unbelievable. Thanks for like talking like just the living room. Y’all going to be next door. No, no, no, no, no. I know. Yeah, we we y’all stupid. I can see his house. Chaz, what you you was trying to say something, dog. To me, bro, this is the game right here. And to me, the there’s one player that Well, really two, but I expected John Hog to be terrible. I can’t stall Herb out cuz Herb to me is the only one with too much confidence and he just looks crazy. He look like again, if he was playing defense and nothing else coming together, I’d be like, “Ah, [ __ ] it.” You know, he trying to figure it out. He’s awful on both. He’s like virtually unplayable on both ends of the court. Like shout out to Ross. Ross just in time for the highlights. Check this out. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. I think I got it. Yeah, I think you don’t need we don’t need to see the score honestly. Okay. Damn, man. Happy birthday, Ros. Happy birthday. but full of bring. Is that Is that Is that yellow cake? [Music] Yellow. No, that’s yellow with chocolate. Oh, okay. Say don’t don’t drop that, right? [Laughter] We’re celebrating tonight. Y’all didn’t even know Theo’s made cake, but we celebrating. This This is This probably a Willy Green home going to be honest. This This got to be it, huh? Look, I knew I knew exactly what Ross was talking about. This was a Willie Green home going. But yo, celebrating tonight. Watch these three plays though in the third. And to me, this is where the game changed, bro. Deandre Jordan goes and gets it. Reassembled for three. Herb trail with his ass. Broke the run. Zion has Christian B on him. Zion, back to get the ball. goes and gets it. I think it’s trying to reassemble her Jones for three. He’s on the left side. He’s on the left side with Chris Brown. That was the most incredible travel I’ve seen in some time. But wait, there’s more. Murray surrounded off one foot. No good. Christian Brown hustles it up. Aaron Gordon for three. He’s knock. This is still a game at this point. You’re not down 20 [ __ ] points. This is a game right here. But wait, there’s more. If you make a defensive mistake, he’ll make you pay. Now they put pressure in the back court. Herbs can’t make him pay. And he got Do you see All right. First of all, you should have made the shot just just off GP, right? But do you see DeAndre Jordan right there running with her? All you got to do is here. It was like to the entire game changed right here. This is what I mean by backbreaking bad plays because again the ball just go out of bounds. Who gives a [ __ ] But the fact that you doing this and it immediately leads to points. It It’s ridiculous. Make a defensive mistake. He’ll make you pay. Now they put pressure in the back court. Herbs can’t make him pay and he got It’s such an easy lob to DeAndre. All right. All right, guys. So, so look, I got to I got to welcome I got to welcome Ross to the show properly here. Ross, it’s your birthday. So, we going we going to give you some flowers. You were you were the only one on the on the panel, I believe, of the group that said this team would suck. That would be really really bad. You said under under Vegas’s total. You were one of the few I will say that um or that early mentioned Jordan P being a six-man. He was a six he’s a sixman tonight. Four four games in coming off the bench. Um you called DeAndre Jordan start. No you didn’t. No one called DeAndre Jordan starting. I’m not I can’t I can’t give you that credit. Can’t give you that credit. Um don’t be afraid to give out some credit. Um go ahead, man. I mean, I don’t know. I don’t know how much of the of the game at all. Did you know for your birthday, you know? No, no, no, no, not a What are your thoughts about this? Yeah, go ahead. Yeah, I’m here to I’m just here to celebrate, guys. I think there’s no way any logical human um can continue with Willie Green after after yet another 30 plus point loss. I mean, I I I see this as a celebration. We’re We’re going to wake up tomorrow. New life ahead of us. You call it? There’s just no way. New life. There’s no way. 0 and4 two of the losses. Just so just disco, you know, and and look, just in the clips, just in the clips, they quit. They quit. They quit. They quit on I mean, I I don’t need to watch the game. I mean, I knew by the score, but you can go watch individually on the three plays. I would say at least 40%. So, two of the five players are quitting every single play. I mean, you gotta move on. You gota So, what what happens? What are y’all’s thoughts on Joe Dum Mars if he does not fire Willie Green tomorrow? That’s crazy. Uh, I’d see I I’m I’ve never really known. It’s a first time for everything, though. No one really trades unprotected picks like that. But I’ve never really known a coach to get fired on cuz you like dick. Cuz Dre like you got you have no idea how bad I want to see you guys play. Get your John Wayne Gasey flimsy ass out of here cuz you like dick. That’s what it boils down to. And I don’t mean sporting goods. But keep going. Let’s keep going. Let’s keep going. Not that. can’t stop my wisdom. But yeah, so that being the case, I think uh why not I mean why not fire him if you Ross is like nah look you can find your way home. Oh Willie look once you go straight home and just start packing though like just go straight home and just and just pack like what like what more can we really do? But see if you Joe Dumas again I can’t of course we we know if it was up to him I’m sure Willie would probably be gone right now, right? So, if you’re Joe Dumas, you shouldn’t even have to be calling Gail. Gail should have you on the phone right now and saying, “Yes.” Uh, can we get this [ __ ] out of here? Hey, let me ask y’all this. Y’all think Gail is saying like, “No, Joe, you can’t fire him. It’s too early.” Not at this point, I don’t think. Not after what he didn’t get. Not Not after what was I mean, coming into the season with every like Atlanta and Indiana were two of the wor well, not can’t can’t throw the Pelicans. The Pelicans, Atlanta, and Indiana were three of the worst teams coming into this se, sorry, coming into this game tonight. [ __ ] Ross, I I went through this exercise with some folks earlier. Like, can you and and I’m being I’m I’m being real. I want y’all to actually try to answer this question. What would be the justification for keeping him as the coach? And I mean anything like just like anything realistic based on what you’ve seen thus far. I really struggled to to come up with anything at all. Um, but I’m curious because I could just only find negatives. I couldn’t find I mean I I give me something. I mean we talked about the history earlier, right? History history speaks to if you fire him today, he would it would be the earliest a head coach has ever been fired. That’s the only thing I can think of in in a season. you would have to wait until around game eight to be, you know, to to be there, right? Maybe you wait after until you get home after the road trip, you know, you wait until Charlotte November 4th. But outside of it being like for historical reasons. Yeah. You guys got any any reason that would that is that’s the best thing I’ve heard thus far is that you just wouldn’t want to set history. So that I was thinking more of along the lines of you fired Dennis Allen let go then I guess Rzzy whatever then got hired Kell Moore then [ __ ] Brian Kelly just got fired four days ago like can this state take another I agree like he should be fired I’m just saying can then we follow that up four days later be like all right Willie you’re fired you say can you say can anyone take it people celebrated the the Brian Kelly like you if people were happy about Brian Kelly getting fired, they were going to do Dennis Allen. People were happy. I mean, every But that’s the problem. Everyone would be happy. And so, like, I just don’t know what like, okay, if you like Willie, that’s fine. That’ll make him a good NBA head coach. And clearly tonight, like players are quitting on him. They’re quitting. It’s too early. Yeah. Like they’re quitting. They’re quitting. But this is Leo. Is this just is this years built up of, you know, of quitting like like of what we seeing today from from these players? I mean, one of you guys mentioned earlier, I mean, it might it might have actually been you, Leo, that it took Jordan Pool four games to quit on Willie Green, like like to be fed up with Willie Green. Um, but some of these guys have years of this years of uh where’s the where’s the media asset here? It was just here. Years, right? Um, at that point, does it matter about the historical pretense? If we’re talking about like three, four, five years, secret extensions given out, you know, all the pressure that’s on this year, back-to-back 30, 30 plus losses. I mean, I like I’ve never seen those other teams, I feel like, quit how this team was quit. I I haven’t like the the amount of like just not giving a [ __ ] is is as high and running as this rampid as it’s ever ran before it was just like you know it wasn’t maximum effort but this [ __ ] was like this [ __ ] was bad like this [ __ ] was bad tonight if you if you are going to fire him like I can’t see it getting much worse in this game you know what I’m saying like it can you fire a coach on the road I’m serious I mean I know you Okay, but like people are waiting. People are saying after the road trip, I’m like, look, I’m not saying I’m not saying change now, right? I’m not saying if you make a change now, you’ll beat OKC or uh [ __ ] uh whoever else play. If you can fire your coaches with winning records, you can fire your coaches on the road like Taylor Jenkins, uh the dude that uh Doc Rivers conspired against, um who Mike Malone, like you could fire him. I I think I think um I look cuz I I didn’t mention this before. Go ahead, Ross. Go ahead, bro. No, I’m sorry. Go. Finish finish with all Chad. Oh, well, I I I didn’t I didn’t mention this before, but you know, this past offseason, Willie was like reaching out to players to kind of like, you know, build some camaraderie and try to like, you know, build his relationship with a couple of guys. Clearly, it it didn’t work. And it’s like at this point, even if the players did like him, which I don’t think they do, but even if they did, you’re just so not good that it doesn’t matter. And it’s like to me, the players who I think like you have been the biggest problems so so far to me from what I gathered. And it just like it just there was no reason there was no rationale behind benching Jordan Pool tonight. Period. Insane. Insane. Ross. Ross, I actually wanted to ask you that. What What were your thoughts about benching Jordan P, keeping Jeremiah Bears in the starting lineup and also starting DeAndre Jordan? Well, the DeAndre birthday. Yeah. Yeah. It was a special special treat for me. Um the the the DeAndre Jordan one didn’t surprise me at all because I I was really shocked when Willie didn’t start the night they brought him came to I I I told you I was I was shocked. I thought 100% he was going to start the game against uh and guard Wimby. I thought for sure when I saw No, that wasn’t the one when he was talking to Willie but Oh, you talking about uh against Boston? No, when No, they signed him the day they they played San Antonio. Oh, did they? And that was when Emi wasn’t gonna play and I thought I I I was certain he was gonna start that night. But um I’m surprised it took two games, but Willie did exactly what Willie does and he started him tonight. And from the jump I I don’t I mean none of you would What? Look, we got we got six of us in here. Did any of y’all think that that Jordan P was the type of player Willie Green would like? No. Surely not. I mean it was not this this these type of things aren’t a surprise to me. He doesn’t do any he doesn’t do anything that surprises and and you know the irony is the whole thing of the whole thing is that last game he almost did something that surprised us and then they changed it at the last minute and they ended up starting Eve’s mei. Yeah. Unbeknownst to everyone they they were almost going to do something that was going to surprise people. Hey, you know what? We’re not going to start a center. we’re going to start this small lineup and it’s going to be this and then and then at the last minute they changed that. It look he’s just No, no, no, no. That’s too wild. That’s too wild. Don’t kill him like that. Yeah. Yeah. It’s just a total lack of creativity. Um and just to go back to can they fire him on the road. Look, I I think there are situations where it might be slightly unprofessional to fire someone, but in this situation, you have a head co a previous head coach on the bench. Like a lot of teams don’t have that. I mean, whether you think I think is is a much better head coach, but you have an answer on the bench, right? This isn’t it’s a bad example, but use the Brian Kelly one, right? Khalid, not every team has a a previous head coach just hanging out. Like, just get him. Just leave. Just go anywhere. And where who do we play? Who do we play next? The Friday Clippers. I mean, can you think of a better place to be like, “Hey yo, man, just go hang out in LA. Do you know what? I’ll foot the bill for whatever he wants to do in LA. But just don’t show up. Company guard, but just don’t show up.” Yeah. Just don’t show up to the game. Um Justin, you you love this stat. Um Scott, tonight was Jokic’s 13th triple double, I believe, against the Pelicans. He has had the most Pelicans. Just against the Pelicans, he has 13. That is the most triple doubles that he has against any other team in the association. Number two, it’s a bunch of teams with eight tied for two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight. The Pelicans are way ahead of everyone else with him having 13 triple doubles. Yeah. Isn’t that amazing? He’s a bad man. He’s good. He’s I don’t think he played that well tonight, honestly, bro. I mean, Chad, he played 20 like Yeah, he didn’t like like stat H Central Hoop Central tweeted out his stats literally at the beginning of the fourth quarter. That’s the That’s the crazy thing to me about this team. Whereas I had more roster questions than I even had Willie Green questions. No, I’m sorry. I had more like Willie Green utilization questions versus some of the roster questions I had. Of course, I think we need more shooting, which is apparent. And I, you know, I question, we all question that second line and the the rotation at the five. But the thing that’s just it’s so insane to me is just that it’s like bro what what were you doing tonight? Like what were you doing tonight to to where like we was in the chat we was like don’t have to play in the fourth quarter. It’s like the game. This was one of those games where the score doesn’t justify how bad of a defeat it was. And you really just lost the game in the third quarter. Again, Chaz, they were down what? Six and a half, right? They were down They were down six points. They were down six, but like you just knew like it wasn’t like they weren’t up because not only were they down six, bro. It was like the momentum kind of shifted. You were down six, right? Trey starting to wake up a little bit. Now y’all playing defense, you rebounding, you getting turnovers. Like, oh wow, you you you in this game. This is a game, right? And it wasn’t nothing they did. It was these plays here. Murray surrounded off one foot. No good. Christian Brown hustles it up. Aaron Gordon for three. He’s due. Yeah. If you make a defensive mistake, he’ll make you pay. Now they put pressure in the back court. Herbs can’t make him pay. DeAndre Jordan goes and gets it. Trying to reassemble her Jones for three. Chaz. Chaz. Can you go the first play? Go the first surrounded off one foot. No good. Christian Brown hustles it up. Aaron Gordon for three. He’s two. Yeah. Did you see Zion’s effort? You did what you needed to do. You got him to miss the shot. You don’t box out. You give up a easy [ __ ] offensive board wide open three. What are you doing? You walk your highest paid players. Highest paid players on the team. Zion don’t give a [ __ ] Zion’s just walking around. Herb is just bad right now. Herb’s bad right now. My My thing is it it wasn’t just that. It was like Christian Bond, he had a run where he had like eight, nine points in a row. It’s like nobody nobody gonna defend him. Nobody nobody gonna do nothing. Hey, can I ask you a question? And this again, I didn’t watch any of the game. Why did Queen play his fewest minutes of the season? It looks like he I’m looking at it looks like he played 14 minutes and over seven of those were in the fourth quarter at the last seven minutes of the fourth quarter when the game was that means before that means before halfway through the fourth quarter when the game they were down 30, he only played seven minutes. I thought I thought maybe it was in fouls, but it looked like we didn’t think he was gonna play Ross. Like, watching the game live, it looked like he wasn’t gonna play. So, he came in the second quarter. Yeah, if I’m not mistaken. Look, man. Like, that’s [ __ ] I don’t know. I I did the film review, whatever. Like, he wasn’t very good. But once again, you traded your unprotected first round pick for him. It’s game four of his NBA career, and Willie Green’s already gonna sit him down. This guy is a rookie killer. This guy is a player killer. He is not good. He does nothing well. I I don’t know. Like I feel like it’s at that point now we that this whole channel, this whole show has said it so many times. I feel like we’re going insane. Like I really do. I just don’t understand the justification for like, okay, Herb has earned the right to uh play himself out of whatever funk he was in going into tonight. Not after tonight, I’m done. But going into tonight, he he had earned that right, of course. But you still playing Jose and like what what has done to earn the green light he has? That’s what I wanted to say, Chaz. In both games he’s played over 14 minutes, they both lost by 30. Dope. Soon as he touches the court, it’s like it’s just one of those. It’s like if you look even if you look at that that that run at the end of the second half it was like or even it was one one sequence here was the most nonsensical [ __ ] period was uh okay you f you’re down like 30 but you finally see a Zion fears Sadique Bay uh Trey Murphy lineup I her might have been out it might have been Queen out there and I’m Like why? This is a this is this is a [ __ ] offensive gunfight here. Why are you you not stopping nobody anyway? Anyways, so lean into all also like once you’re down someone told me this once is actually an NBA coach. Once you’re down 20 once you’re down 20 in a game, you automatically switch it up and just throw something at the walls. Throw something some type of lineup that can score quick. He don’t ever do that. Y’all asking for too much it, man. The [ __ ] I saw tonight, bro. It’s got to be over. You think so, Chaz? I’m No, I’m asking cuz No, I know. And I know you’re serious. I’m not mad at you. I’m just like, but like Chaz, like we keep saying like I What else like what more does he need to do to be fired? Seriously, if if he doesn’t get fired tonight, let me ask you this, guys. If if he doesn’t get fired tonight, what else has to happen? Seriously, honestly, think about that. I hate to have a cliffhanger, but there’s a there’s a story out there in the abyss that needs to go public. And hey, for sake of liable, I’m not going to mention what the story is, but there’s that’s the only way because if this ain’t it, even if you say, “Well, we going at least let them make it home.” Like, they got other planes. What the what the [ __ ] But if this if this ain’t it, if this ain’t it, though, it’s almost to the point where, you know, even saying it jokingly, it’s almost to the point where it looks like something illegal is happening. Like it looks it look it looks criminal what’s happening. Like it look weird. I’m with If this don’t do it, and I I ain’t 100% certain that this is gonna do it, honestly. How could you be? How how could you what has been shown um over the history of this franchise and ownership and other franchises in which they get it? Because if they got it, you would say bringing in Joe Dumar’s Willie Green wouldn’t have wouldn’t have been your head coach. Yep. another batch of rookies and Zion’s maybe most critical year and Herb Jones signing signing a contract extension he clearly trying to live up to and Tre Murphy being a number two option he’s clearly trying to live up to you wouldn’t have even brought Willie Green back Jesus Christens haven’t won Pelicans are 0 and 11 their last 11 games dating back to last season Rod Walker and they didn’t win a league they didn’t win a game in the summer league either Uh early early you guys asked if the Pelicans can fire Willie Green right now. Uh think about this from a PR perspective. Um LSU fires Brian Kelly. Um it’s national news, right? Um now Willie Green getting fired could be somewhat national, but it won’t last as long as you know BK being fired in Baton Rouge. I think you can almost sweep that into the same like you can sweep that under the rug with that. You know, they like to be low-key, right? They like to use, you know, the bigger name, i.e. Saints, and then sweep the Pelicans problems like right under there. So, this would work based on your history. Um, your best player got eight shots tonight. He had zero rebounds. He was frustrated on the bench visibly. Like that that’s a telltale sign. If I’m Zion, again, I don’t think you’re a superstar until you get a coach fired. Uh you call Gail yourself and apologize for the way you’ve acted. Like say, “Yo, I’ve done some things that I that I shouldn’t have done. I was young. I was idiotic. I was But I’ve learned. But Miss Gail, he is killing me right now. Like I can’t pause. Like I can’t I can’t be a better basketball player and uplift this organization with him as my coach. I think doing that would almost force her to like this is the bigger investment for me just from a business standpoint. Z’s the bigger investment. I’m not helping him with this head coach currently. So, and my last point is Gail truly cuz she would she has the most to lose in this because she doubled down on Willie Green. This isn’t Joe’s pick double downing on like No, this is this is her. It goes back to her. There’s a reason why Willie Green was in the Saints draft room. the the Saints that like he is there. Why is Joe Dumar’s in that room? No. What a Was he hired by then? I don’t know. May even though he was hired by Yeah, he was there. He was there. He was hired. I mean, but was he in this room? No. See what I’m saying? Like what point does it make sense that Willie Green is there? There’s a video that I’m looking for here. Uh I just uh maybe y’all got to it. Y’all got to it. Okay. Is it Jordan pool? Shout out to bro like man. But wait just one more thing before that picks it up. This is where you have to attack, right? Jose three-pointer. Run it again, Chaz. Chaz, run it again. Picks it up. This is where you have to attack, right? Jose three-pointer. So, it’s three on. I’m going break this down. It’s three on three. It’s three on three. You got Trey Murphy, you got Zion Williamson, and you got Josie Alvarado. And out of those three, José Alvarado got the 26 foot shot. You open Trey and Zion. Like this is what I’m talking like Trey picks it up. This is where you have to attack, right? Jose three-pointer. And who’s the low man? [ __ ] Valentunis. Like this is the [ __ ] we’re talking about. Like and there’s no like there’s no repercussions like the wrong guys are shooting the shots. Okay. Like wait. Okay. Play run it back. Oh play right there. Leo picks it up. This is where you go. This is where you have to attack, right? Jose three-pointer. [Applause] See it. Y’all would think Jose is the problem here, which is partly the problem, but it’s Trey. And I’mma tell you why. You give the ball up early, you get it back. You got to protect yourself from your own teammates because if you give it up late, uh, you know, I’m already at the three-point line. Cuz if you give it to Jose maybe at the at the halfourt line, he’s got to give it back to you. Then you get to make the better decision. Right back, Chaz. And when when if you can. Oh, the last back. Okay. Trey picks it up. This is where you have to attack, right, Jose? Three-pointer. [Applause] Waits late. Yeah, cuz then STR would have Yeah, Struts would have to guard Jose at that point. And then Trey would be the the Trey gets the ball back and JV and JV is the one guarding him. And then you have uh whoever on the right side because in that in that play, Trey is using the attention that he’s getting at handling the basketball to open up a look for Trey, right? I’m Jose. So he’s open up. Yeah. And so I mean what you would want it to be in the inverse of the other way. Trey should be the one taking that shot. Not not Jose. Go ahead. Well J I was going to say either way if even if you swing it back to Trey, you’re still forcing a long close out with Yonas Valentrunis andor you have a rotation with Zion going downhill. You have a better shooter and a better No, I’m with you. The fact that Jose shoots the ball is is so crazy. But it’s not crazy because that’s what’s been going on. Sure, because there’s there’s no repercussions for that shot. You’re right. I’m going I’m going to lead here. Ross, uh, perfect time to wear that hat. We talked about this earlier. Byron Scott was the was the earliest in Pelican/ Hornets history. The earliest head coach to be fired. Believe it was 2009. He got fired nine games in three and six record. Uh, Leo, go ahead. You had something? I was going to say, imagine imagine how Yonas Valentunis feels. just being in a competent organization like with with a great player who shows up every night to play. Just just imagine how that guy looked over down at the at the Pelicans, you know what I’m saying? Just got better every year. looking down, sitting on the Nuggets bench, looking down at the Pelicans bench at Willie Green’s face and being like, “I survived. I survived Willie Green.” Leo, you were saying, you said something earlier in the chat. Uh, I do want you to expand on it. You said, “I think I’m tired of Zion’s basic ass game.” I mean, it that that is literally like that’s it’s nothing there. It’s it’s it’s a bull in the china shop every night. There’s like no complexity to it. It’s just really like you throw some [ __ ] at the wall and is it cubism? Is it like what what it’s it’s it’s like he’s just not gotten better. And I’m tired of bro dribble with your right hand. Make a right-handed layup. like you already are are at a disadvantage to so to speak because you are a a 66 66 player who’s always at the rim. So you’re surrounded by taller guys. Like make the game easier for yourself at some point because I mean obviously Willie Green is not going to do that for you. So like you you’ve been here now long enough to know I you know what I’m saying? What I need to work on, how I need to get better. You’ve been in the NBA long enough. You play great players every night. And I’m just tired of the basicness. How do you build an offense around that? Because it’s not the same thing as you would do with a Giannis who’s [ __ ] seven foot tall who can do those type of things. Protect the room, come back, you know what I’m saying? Play defense. I just I’m tired of it. Well, I mean, Giannis Giannis’s teams have have consistently put stretch fives around him. They’ve consistently put shooters like known shooters all around him. They would never they would never on their worst day start DeAndre Jordan. They would never I don’t give a [ __ ] who the coach was in Milwaukee over the years. It would never be a time where 37year-old DeAndre Jordan, 19year-old Jeremiah fears, Herb Jones would be starting to where he has one watched a full season Milwaukee Bucks basketball. I can guarantee you it’s never happened since he became Giannis. That’s all. Ross, go ahead and then we got the super chat. Get the [ __ ] out of here. Well, I was just gonna piggyback on on Leto’s comment. I mean you the reason I’m tired of it is because he’s 109 and 107 in his career 500. I mean so ignoring the fact that he’s only played 216 out of out of 570 possible games like the [ __ ] he’s doing ain’t really impacting winning. Um I I don’t know this this smells like tear down time. I mean none of this [ __ ] is working. How can you tear it down when you don’t have a [ __ ] pick down? What I’m like, we’re the laughing stock of the league, guys. Trey Murphy went seven 7.7 rebounds tonight. Is he quit? Is he Is he not try? I’m Man, bring it to the super chats. I’m be honest with you, though. I I really think cuz it was kind of funny saying it, but really the amount of damage David Griffin did to this roster for us like the fingerprints are still there and certain [ __ ] You gota is it fingerprints or residue? The baby oil residue. I was trying I was trying to switch it up, but it’s it’s it’s a baby oil residue. It’s it’s it’s pretty it’s it’s pretty KYed up like this team’s getting [ __ ] because super chat super chat time super chat time super chat time is it’s late people people ladies get some get some food um and not talk about the Pelicans. We are taking Friday off for those for those I’m sorry chat unless they win unless they win. We are taking Friday off. Ain’t going to be no tricks and no treats on this show Friday. you see us Sunday like everybody else. Uh let’s get through super chats here. What we got here? Of course, we got your 504 here. Appreciate you, dog. Happy birthday, Ross. See, look at that. Look at that. Look at that. All right, we got uh you know Josh, I don’t care if I get fired. I was gambling with Terry Rosier and John Phillips. My name is Willie Green. I’m the head coach of New Orleans. Shout shout out to Willie. You know, Bill, we got Willie Green and Chris Connor in in the comments. All right, Michael Morgan is always showing love, man. Always on time, man. We went all in in the entire NBA snap call. Um, wow. I like how you snap call there, too. Appreciate you, dog. Appreciate you, man. I am X. I thought our guys play with a lot of joy, compassion, togetherness. Nuggets look silly out against our great humans. What y’all think? Funny as hell, man. Our dog, Space, African Jesus. Great point. Five. Put the pressure on Joe Dum Mars to not look like the piano man. Fire. Willie Green. All caps. Y’all feeling the empathy for Joe? Joe who? No. No. Well, not not based on how he got the job, but from the standpoint of like now why I don’t feel no empathy is you didn’t have to trade those two picks and you didn’t have to extend Herb. Those two things to me is just like unforgivable. But I say that because like damn, I inherited this coach. Maybe my decisions look better if I didn’t inherit this coach. Good father. He had a good job. He had a good job. He didn’t have to take this job. He could stay in the league office. Honestly, he No, if he wants to fire him, he can fire him. I’m not buying that. Look, man. I I’m I’m never I’m never feeling sorry for somebody that agreed to take a job is paying them more money. Um and and and they don’t like the results. They knew like you knew what you was getting into. You you did all the research. You had all the friends in the building. You knew exactly what you were walking into and you made some of these decisions that were not forced upon you as you mentioned Chaz. So I can’t feel sorry for him. He’s making more money. This is what Joe wanted. Joe gota figure it out. What’s up? Hey, can you think Joe can uh just fire him and then be like like what? It’s too late. Fire me, [ __ ] What you going to do? You can’t She ain’t going to fire. She can’t fire him. Yeah. Like Well, she good. But it look worse. Like Joe, if Joe really want to pull a gangster car like just go ahead and do it. What she going to do? Fire do. So it’s easier to get forgiveness than permission. Just go ahead and do it, man. Cuz what’s it gonna be like? You wouldn’t like You wouldn’t come to me first. I did, but you wasn’t listening. Joseph, man. Okay. I don’t be gangster though. That’d be gangster if he did it. Joe, if you need an idea, idea, man. I did. Uh oh. Justin, this from Vince. I can’t believe y’all tried to sell us on Jordan. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait a second. Wait a second. Wait a second. Wait a second. Nah, next question. I a Okay, cool. Cool. Jordan P would be fine. I’m not I’m not worried about Jordan P. What I am worried about though, as Jared said, I do want to answer that question. Willie, he can’t play for Willie cuz what he did tonight, the [ __ ] he pulled, he ain’t going to forget. He can’t play. Willie Green pull. Oh yeah. I think that that bridge is burned. That’s That’s over. Like, bro, to do that four games in is crazy. On the road against Denver. He is a like he’s a seven-year guy. He’s won a championship at Golden State. Like you don’t do that. How much money is he making this year? Can I add this one point too? Yeah. Jordan Pool historically kills the Nuggets. Like check Jordan Pool last year against the Nuggets. This is like a team he like this is the team I I I love to beat the [ __ ] out this team. And you b you benched the guy who’s been the second best player for for the team for no reason. We had Chris, I know we going for an hour 20, but we hadn’t talked about that, bro. Like I know that’s like like why was he benched tonight? Why? Like for real. What was What? None of it. It didn’t even You’re telling me Herb Jones is playing better. Well, you don’t say defense cuz defensively y’all been atrocious. So five five Lo give y’all um inside of the chat here. Leo asked um he asked earlier um something in regards to the starting lineup and five was like the only thing that I could think of is that you you start DeAndre Jordan for Jokic purposes. Maybe he’s the only one that can guard Joic. He spent the most time around him and guarding him due to his time. Who can guard Jokic? Nobody. There’s nobody on planet Earth that can guard Jokic. So I don’t give a [ __ ] if he played against him in in practice or not. Nobody can guard him. You’re trying to make sense of stupidity. I mean we we we trying. It’s part of it’s part of our job because there’s nothing there’s no advantage I can take Jokic. You know you can’t stop Jokic. I don’t know that. He don’t know that. Don’t tell me that. What is the what is the what what other reason? I mean and I would argue Mei’s played fairly well against Joic in in in some of the matchups. So, what other reason can you possibly give for starting DeAndre Jordan? Man, he was getting dogwalked by Christian Bond. He’s been in the league for five days. Started him. The crazy thing is the crazy thing is like so Zion’s back. Why you starting Fars? And if you don’t want to take fears out the starting lineup, which didn’t make no sense, then why I because we we ask three questions every year, right? Why is Willie Green here? Why is David Griffin here? And why is no, why is Willie Green here? Where’s the center? And why is Herb Jones starting? What? Like we back to that point. I’m not scapegoating her, but I’m saying if you’ve been as bad on both sides of the ball, and I need offense, my second best offensive player has been Jordan Pool. My one of the only three-point threats on the roster has been Jordan Pool. The guy who’s played historically well against this team in recent memory is Jordan Pool. What? The guy who played well last game, the best player for your team last game was Jordan P. Herb scored zero points last game. Literally, there’s not no hyperbole. He scored zero points. Jeremiah Fizz was awful last game. He’s a rookie though against one of the best defensive teams in the NBA. Why would you carry that over to this game unless it was something personal? Unless you had a point to prove. Now, Willie, you know, and I don’t mean disrespect when I say this, he’s a bit of a hoe. And you could tell that he did it was some ho ass [ __ ] That’s the only I’m [ __ ] It was some ho ass [ __ ] It was some whole ass [ __ ] What? What’s a what’s a respectful way to call somebody a hoe, Chad? Well, he’s a he’s a well respectful way. He’s a [ __ ] He’s a bit of a [ __ ] right? Because I’m like that that was clearly some personal [ __ ] That’s clearly some personal [ __ ] ass [ __ ] Chaz, were they on the Were they on the same team when they won championship? No, I think him and Eric Miles was Willie Green was already gone. I think Did they think that like this was going to motivate him? Like did they I’m truly trying to think of the thing. I don’t think that that went into account period. I think I don’t know. Maybe maybe I’m not even gonna say that now. See, I think they were trying to balance the non Zion minutes that if I got to be the most positive that I could possibly think. I don’t Right. No, but I understand that, Justin. But both games that they played with Zion were competitive and the numbers the numbers show when Zion was off the floor, that’s when [ __ ] went to bed. I’m not saying it was a good idea because I obviously wasn’t and I’m I’m gonna be curious what the Nes coach decides to do. But in DeAndre Jordan, I don’t get those. I’m assuming that they benched they had to bench somebody offensively for offensive purposes and it wasn’t going to be Trey and it wasn’t going to be Zion, but they hadn’t been scored. What do you like? They like they need just I’m just I’m just trying. I’m I know you’re trying. I no try has the intention of failing when you’re failing like no I get it like I understand though see and this the crazy part about benching bench and pool in this instance it’s like bro uh wasn’t that Christian Bond had 17 Jamal Murray had 17 right and it’s like the there was a window for you to win this game there’s been a window every game for you to win the game tonight was one of the more irre A healthy a healthy Pelicans team, I don’t care what nobody getting paid. A healthy Pelicans team should never start three nonshooters. Especially after one of those guys scored zero points in the prior game and I think rookie Fierce had like I think he went like one for like 13 or some [ __ ] It was something bad. You’re healthy. Z’s here. You’re on the road. You desperately need a win. You’re not recognizing the severity of your situation or you are recognizing it and you like I got to try something. I gotta do something. I gotta do something. It’s but it’s so it’s so dumb and shortsighted y’all because now you got like it didn’t work. If you do something like that to a veteran and somebody that that hasn’t necessarily been playing like you got to come back to him the next game and say all right well you know that failed. Come on like come on back to the start line come home. like like you you start either you learn how to manage it better like take Jordan P out the first five minutes of the first quarter. If you’re so concerned about ma about managing or balancing the lineups, take him out earlier. Don’t don’t bench him. And if you do bench him, don’t bench him for that. That’s the thing. I like I I don’t know who did a post game, but I’m really like, bro, why you think you got benched, dog? Like what? What what you think happened, bro? Because Sorry, Leo. This is clearly personal. This clearly personal, bro. All right, let’s get to some more to Hey, hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Go ahead. Go. Last point. I think there’s a power struggle going on. Between Reeves and Willie to between Pool. That’s right. No. And Willie. Oh, Pool and Willie. Yeah. Like, think about it. remember like early on like maybe like training cap the the Pell releasing videos and it was like Jordan Pool like leadership like you know him leading the huddle blas blah and he’s super vocal that’s what we’ve heard about him so to lose and be like yeah we we playing like like dog [ __ ] or like something not this not right like he’s been in winning organizations like it’s not supposed to go like this I can see it where you He’s like, “Nah, we not doing it like that. We shouldn’t do it that way.” And as we all know, me personally, Willie don’t like when you challenge him. I’ve also, and we can move on, Chris, you remember when during preseason, he was like, “I talked to one of the assistant coaches to get this play installed. Why you ain’t talk to [ __ ] ass? Can’t go to Can’t go to bitch.” You can’t be like, “Hey, I got a problem.” Can’t do it though. He act like a hoe. Next thing you know, you riding a pine. They went on a million. They didn’t do nothing wrong on the bench. What say little? They went on a 29-2 run. So they go 190,40 and 29 and two dog. Amazing. Amazing runs. All right, let’s let’s go back to super chats here. Chris Connor here, man. They’re their early trading can save the season. I don’t know. Maybe call the Kings. Kings suck, too. They they they they they’re just as bad for me. Bro, if you were good, you could go realistically go get some bonus right now. That’s how [ __ ] up the universe is. All you had to be was silent. You a be good and you could have got some bonus right now. 504. Y’all can just take the night off. We are not the New Orleans Pelicans. We we we show up for work. Uh well, Friday, we definitely taking night off. Unless they win, but they they not. Shane Draymond was one of four, but Willie delivered the Oh god, that’s a good one. That’s a good one. Shout out to Shane, man. Hank Hank 75, man. Bill gonna be coaching in Pelican Bay. Well, they get through with him. Shoe program 23. Um, does Willie coach on Friday? I don’t know. I say yeah, he doesn’t coach any day. [ __ ] Following Bill. Bill Verde fixes everything. Oh man. Let’s keep going here. Shout out to Victor, man with the five. Shout out to Will Chill as well here. Trey got bumped and went into labor, then threw his baby into the third row. I think Willie hates pool. Trey has a doppelganger. Yeah, Trey blew a easy layup in the first quarter. What? Okay, hold on. Somebody break this down for me. What? What? What’s happen? Like, I don’t know. I feel like it’s a lot of things going on in this one in this one little comment here. It’s like pig lighting. I don’t know. Trey got bumped, went into labor, and then threw his. It’s like a riddle. Threw his baby into the third row. I think Willie hates pool. Trey, shout out Shout out to my dog Datson. But have y’all ever had a conversation with Datson? Yeah. That’s That’s what it feels like. That’s what it feels like all the time. Datson, my dog. But wasting your time drinking that wine smoke. [ __ ] Justin. Yo. Wow. Christ. He know why. He know why. You sag son of a [ __ ] You old sailory. Where is she? She still in the house. Shout out to Zeke, man, for Willie Zuber. Way past this. Way past the nightwood. Yeah, he he and Sh. Hank again with another two-piece. Appreciate you. Appreciate you as well, Zeke. That [ __ ] need to go coach a dodgeball team. Boy, do the ball. Let me ask y’all something. Given not without without making no accusations, this is totally hypothetical. Totally hypothetical. Do y’all think that players on this team are beyond just saying like, “Oh, I know how to get them fired now.” Because what are they gonna do? Trade us? What are they gonna do? Trade us? They ain’t going to trade us. There might be a beauty on on their hand. Seriously, there might be a There might be a [ __ ] [ __ ] happen this organization. I think Trey had like I I this feels like like there’s no way Trey is this bad. Yeah, there’s no way Trey is this bad. This is the worst he’s ever played in since he’s been in the NBA. This has to like I think this is his way of being a Yeah. Yeah. Cuz if we win there’s no what. Are we competitive? He can’t get fired. Will Chill again. Appreciate you. We just watch her replays as a direct reflection of coaching. He took the rebound to her pace in his ear. No plays, no schemes, no wins. No. So chill, man. Uh beat Thomas. All the history Willie set during his regime. Losing streaks, worst record. Yep. Big Hank again with another fivepiece, dog. Appreciate you keeping the lights on. New coach needs to be the total opposite. New coach needs to be spitting tobacco. Damn. Jesus Christ. I told y’all none of that hip hop. Yo yo yo [ __ ] None of that. None of that [ __ ] None of that yo yo yo [ __ ] Yo my brother. Nah. [ __ ] all that. You need you need a old school mother. Yo yo yo D. We can’t appreciate you, dog. We can’t find We can’t find Willie until the government open back up. I’m trying to trying to do a show here. We trying to trying to be professionals. Me Thomas. Willie Green is the only coach that goes small for no beneficiaries and it goes big for no the crazy part. Chris Chris. Chris, look. You was giving Wimby You gave Wimby the [ __ ] Blues with a small lineup, right? Wimby was balling out against everybody but your team with a small lineup. You started Sadique Bay in that game. You go away from it and get you started DeAndre Jordan, dog. Come on, bro. We going We going We going small. This L listen y’all. We playing small tonight. All right, coach. Why? I don’t know. Use the jab. Hold on. Hold on. Don’t be Oh, don’t be Tyus again. Don’t That was good work right there. The only coast that goes small for no beneficial reasons. It goes big for no beneficial reasons. Oh my god. My dog on the spectrum, man. Shout shout out to Bill Green, man. Um Doug Christie is Willie Green. Did y’all see Did y’all hear what he said? Willie Will or who? Did you already talk about this? I don’t want to belabor yourself. No, when his his response to like how they get out of the rut or whatever. I’ll just read you the quote. I’ll read you the quote. We’ve got to dig down and find our identity. The first order of business is you’ve got to compete harder, play harder, play more together, and you got to believe. What a stupid son of a [ __ ] Like that. I much how much rather hear Christie say, “Look, we’re gonna lose the game. We’re not going to lose the fight. Me, too. It’s like Willy’s not even good at the like lame [ __ ] anymore. Coach speak like he not even good at that. Never been good. He’s just a [ __ ] All right. Well, yo, that’s it for us. Um, look, man. We again, we taking Friday off. You know, if they win or if there’s some not a show until Willie gets fired. [ __ ] around. Who does that? Hey, that’s a real protest. That don’t really help us. But the message that really help us help us is bigger though. Yeah, the message the message is stronger. I mean, [ __ ] If they find out keeping Willie means we off the air, this [ __ ] is going to have a lifetime contract. I don’t think that’s a good idea. He’ll never get fired. He will die a Pelicans coats. Y’all, that’s not a good idea. If they get fire, if he gets fired, we got to go live. We’re gonna buy out the bar. Yeah, we need we need live. We going be we going to be live somewhere. We need to be writing all the men though. Hey Justin. Justin, I do want if if and when Willie Green does get fired, we need to go back to a bar and do a show. I’m down. We got 500 people. Everybody in this chat right now at the Pelicans. We got to be consistent with this. At the Pelicans to fire your Willie Green. Call your season ticket reps. Let them know, [ __ ] I want my money back. I think I want my money back. Like Joe Peshy said at these [ __ ] put apply pressure because only thing they understand is when you sock it to their pockets. Get we got we got to apply pressure. This can’t go on. This can’t go on. Call Senator Kennedy. This can’t go on. This is This is going way too far. This [ __ ] is is Gez. I’m trying to be respectful. This [ __ ] is awful, dog. He’s awful. He’s god [ __ ] awful, dog. Well, hopefully the hopefully the end is near, Leo. Yo yo, like yo, I I’m I’m tired of I’m tired of cheering for a sad team. Like realistically realistically, bro. I told you four games. They broke they broke me, dog. I’m I’m I’m like they broke the vest though, man. I can’t do five or whatever that special on man like bro like when be here dog when they going to be good bro like like when when they going to be good bro? Why they love me? Why the hell? Like, oh my god, dog. This dude crazy, bro. Somebody really need to ask him. This is crazy, dog. All right, this the show y’all, man. Appreciate y’all, man. 100 what? 500 plus people in here. went an hour 40 minutes, probably 30 minutes too long here, but probably the earliest start recap that I think we’ve ever done. Like it was the fourth quarter hadn’t even started and we went here. So, uh, for myself, for for Justin, for Leo, for five, for Chaz, for for Ross, happy birthday again, my dog. We’ll holl at y’all hopefully when Willie Green is fired.
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21 comments
Willy green will finish the entire 2020’s (from now to 2029)as the pelicans head coach, and zion will receive another max contract and retire a pelican. What a time to be alive!!!
Gayle Benson is not an NBA owner. New Orleans Pelicans are not an NBA franchise. New Orleans is not an NBA city. Hard truths but true none the less. Its a football town, saints suck too. But at least won something. Food and titties are New Orleans specialty….focus on what you're good at.
Jose Jose Jose Jose joooose!! Joooose!!!
Shout out the Miss Benson. Owning the worst franchises in the NFL and NBA 🏀🤝🏻🏈💩
Man thank goodness for this show. I don’t think there’d be any reason to be a pelicans fan if it wasn’t for yall
And ps the fact you can still make entertaining shows that go for this long is some serious skill… props to the best in the biz
Jeremiah fears is our future pg
Herb needs to come off the bench, it’s been time to make that change
Picking a Trey over BI tells you this franchise is dumb
Willie Green NEEDS TO GO!
This team has 0 heart. We got beat down by Celtics and came out with no energy vs Den. Players have no pride. Fire WG and while we are at it fire Dumars and Weaver for building this roster. I don’t trust them to fix this team.
just trade zion to atalanta
It was a 6-point game when I went to bed
Can we please have this person to the right to stop cussing. Every other word a cuss word. Did learn English when he was in school. So of us want to know what is wrong with this team with out the bad language.
Trey “Has the Runway” Murphy is averaging 12.8 points on 35/21/90 shooting splits.
The blaming Willie after an offseason of “will the Pels have 2 all stars?”, “can the Pels win 50 games?”, “Trey will have a career year”, etc. is hilarious considering you KNEW Willie is the coach lol. Nothing has changed. Willie is trash but the players are too 🤣
Herb playing like he part of that gambling ring
No what’s the story Chaz?😭
Fire Willie, trade everyone but the rookies.
They gonna have a second line down Poydras if Willie gets fired
sell the team, fire willie, fire loomis.
Boy Gayle ruining the Saints and Pels 😂😂
Willie Green looks like Duck on the Five Heartbeats when he is playing shy brother with Leon. He has that same look on his face when he is coaching. Just clueless. He has to go!!!