Streak SNAPPED! Stars Beat Hurricanes 3-2 To Get Back Into Win Column | DLLS STARS POSTGAME

Streak SNAPPED! Stars Beat Hurricanes 3-2 To Get Back Into Win Column | DLLS STARS POSTGAME

Pam will be joining us. I’d like to use a couple Cwords. Yeah, I think Bloods is probably happier than just using a couple Cwords. But you know what? Everything tastes a little bit better. Air is fresher. Food tastes cleaner and healthier. Well, maybe not healthier, better after you win. Actually, Stars played a pretty decent game tonight, but that doesn’t matter. They won. That’s what matters. For the first time after a four-ame winless streak, let’s talk about it. Sean’s here. Luds is here. I’m here. Ryan’s here. Sam will be here. Got a full bar tonight. Full boat. Whatever it is, go. [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] Hi. This one, not that one. This one. This is the DLS Stars postgame show. This is Luds. I’m Owen and he is Shawn over Passlets. There he is right there. And this is the DLS Stars postgame show after a win. Ryan Vers is our producer. Sam will be joining us later from the AAC. Let’s get into the takeaways. Led, we’ll start with you, then we’ll go to Sean. How you feeling after this one compared to the last four? Well, it’s a win. A win is a win is a win. Um, you know, a couple teams that are missing some parts and pieces that had to bang around and struggle and scratch and claw to get their, you know, their looks tonight. I thought that I thought Dallas did a good job. I I like the the start of the hockey game. And again, it people can look at that. To me, that was more about when Sean and you know, you get Blackie out there and we’ll show some hits from from him, but but I but I think that was more about not going not having the matchup, you know what I mean? Stall comes out against them, but they do exactly what they should. They get the fans into the building right away. And it was Colin Blackwell with, you know, running around again. He’s not he’s not 6’4, 240. No, he sure isn’t. No, but but he plays hard and and that’s exactly what he did. He got they got minutes out of the guys that they needed to get minutes out of tonight. And I I’ll I mean, I’ll get it out there right now. Miko Renon just impresses me every, you know, enjoy watching him play. I I just love his effort. I love his effort, his size, his care, his want, everything you want. And again, he’s I know he’s one of the top players in the league, but he tries to bring it every single night. Sean, what’s your feeling after this one compared to the previous week and a half? Yeah, I mean it’s it’s kind of funny that these two teams played this game, right, when at a week ago or 10 days ago, whatever it was, right, they were the only two three and 0 teams in the NHL at at one point, right? And so there was so it’s kind of funny to see them play this game where it feels a little bit like a I don’t know, survival, what whatever you want to call it, right? But um I I do want to it is uh it’s kind of to me there was there was two takeaways. one. Leds kind of stole it from me when he talked about Miko Ranton. It’s It’s been fun. Like I I’ve known Miko Ranton has been such a fun player for me to watch for a long time. I remember watching him um all the way back to 2016 when he was with the San Antonio Rampage. I I voted him for AHL MVP that year when he was a rookie with the San Antonio Rampage in 2016. So, he’s always been a really fun player to watch, but it’s been really cool to kind of watch him on a night-to-ight basis closely beyond just obviously checking in with Colorado. And I don’t know about you, but there’s things about his game that with elite players, right, there there’s little things about his game that I kind of pick up on now being able to watch him in the regular season and everything like that that maybe I didn’t even not that not that they surprise me that they’re there, but it just kind of shows you like there’s elite players, they bring new things to the game all the time and it’s really fun to watch. So, that’s one thing. The other part for me from tonight’s game, and it’s a a bit of a kind of a microcosm of Mir Hushkin’s game, is you’re gonna get breaks both ways, and it’s not letting the negative breaks early on impact you from doing the right thing and maybe getting things go away your going going your way later, obviously, as as the as they did with Mirror. And that’s the other kind of thing for me where it feels a little bit resilient, which is I think is something this team needed after the last four games. You know, it’s a really good point, Leds, because especially the Cody Cece goal against LA the other or for LA against Alice the other night. He takes that hard slap shot in the high slot. It hits Maverick Bour’s stickb blade, kicks down, hits the ice and goes completely. He has Jake going to the left and it kicks back to the right as you look at from the shooters perspective. And that’s one where you go, what are you going to do? So to take that and lose a game you probably I think played better than the Kings but didn’t come out with the victory in overtime to then get a couple of good bounces. Maybe that’s the as Sean is saying a little bit of the hockey gods evening it out a little. Yeah. And the saying is you make your own bounces you know and it’s the work that goes into it. And the other thing I’d add Sean to the to the whole Rantin rant is uh it what what also impresses me is for a for a big dude the plays that he can make in tight areas. Tight areas and the little between the stick and the feet of players um he his vision is is you know again he he he’s worth the price of admission. He really is. I mean again I I don’t see this guy slowing down. And then you also get every once in a while we get the glimpse of him coming back to the bench and not being happy about what’s going on there, you know. So for for a new guy played what I don’t know 20 30 games or whatever the number is here. Um so you know and and taking charge. So I’m I’m going back to the to the whole conversation that we had about who wears the next C and I’m slightly going in that direction. You’re more more whenever that day comes. You’re more into Sean’s suggestion from last year in the playoffs than you were when he made the suggestion. Yeah, I am because every time I watch him, I’m just I’m more and more impressed by him. So, I just back it’s been 27 games regular season, not counting playoffs. That was close. Yeah, you were very close. 20 games last year, seven this year, and obviously the playoff run. Go ahead, Sean. Luds with his uh one of the things that’s most impressive to me about him that’s been fun to watch just kind of the the little plays and the p it’s been I always knew he was an elite passer but there’s parts of him where I find myself thinking about the way Joe Thornton played the game, right? a guy that big, a guy with that type of vision who’s got some of those some of those those tools to dig pucks out and make those passes from um and it’s not just the ones where he uses his length and size because those are the ones you expect. For me, it’s the plays that he makes within a a foot of his like like literally within a foot of his skates. Those little plays where you think like, hey, he should be jammed up or something like that. those passing plays that he kind of both the bigger like the ones the cross seams and things like that but even just the little onet twos those are the things that are so have been really fun for me to watch and at least six or seven times tonight I kind of made notes of that of like these are things that are elite players do and if you want to be really good at this sport those are the things you would try to copy because they don’t end up in score sheets but they end up leading to conversations like this and I just want to add one other thing when you were talking Sean I made me think because I was watching the uh Tampa player earlier and I, you know, Coov is back in the lineup and he’s another great playmaker, right? And and he can make them same kind of plays, but what also impresses me, not not as much with Cutrov, but when the pass doesn’t work or the play doesn’t work, it’s over for Cuchov, right? Somebody else comes in. But with Ratnan, he wants to get it back and he’s going to try it again. He fight he gets so many of those pucks that don’t turn out the way he wants them to, he doesn’t quit on them. He gets them back and he wants to make it again. So yeah, he he doesn’t know how not to take his foot off the gas in those areas. You know, Luds, when I was growing up and I first really got into watching the NHL was when Adam Oats was playing for the Boston Yeah. I really liked his game. I don’t know why probably liked it more. I bet he did because he his p but I don’t know what it is about Oats. I mean Cam Neely was on that team for Boston. He was that he was such a power forward there. But I always liked Oats’s game. But I think about Rantin’s passing like Oats. But I think Shawn’s comparison with Joe Thornton is probably more apppropo because of the size and the physicality that he also brings. Thornton was one was one of the best passers that we I think the game’s ever seen, but he did it in a power forwards body. Yeah. And there’s a lot of big guys that that have that size and they don’t necessarily use it. I don’t think we’re we’re not expecting those guys to be, you know, the guys that go running around and things like that, but but for point guys and and you know that I know it’s changed a little bit obviously now, but those kind of guys are going to take their wax and hats because you know the other team is I mean they’re going to circle his name twice on a board and say we’re not letting this guy beat us tonight. But I I I think Ratin’s like I’m not going to let you take it away from me tonight. Let’s go back to the first shift of the game. Now, we’ll break all this down, but I I don’t know if you guys saw it on TV the same way we saw it in the in the arena, but there were three ooh moments from Colin Blackwell on the very first shift on the very f first few seconds he started it. Colin Blackwell had a big boy shift to start this game right here. We got him. Yeah. And again, it was about setting the tone to the game. It was about being upset about not winning, you know, your previous four games. And that’s what this was. And he I I think Gully decided that this was the best group to set and they were I mean the way that they set the tone for their team more importantly I think and also for the fan base. I mean you keep the fans in the fans are always going here. But now there’s a different level that it raises to. And then again for for an opponent sitting there you know there’s some of those guys on the bench going oh we’re going to have to play this kind of game tonight you know. So and and it was good. Sean, what do you take of that Blackwell start to the game where he popped Mike Riley twice and then Jordan Martinook who’s not a small guy? I I think it’s important against this opponent because um one of the teams that you hear about teams people hate playing and it’s Carolina is one of the teams people hate playing reputation wise. Now, I know Carolina is always pretty low in the league standings when it comes to hits and everything, and that’s more reflective of their possession, but they have this reputation of being the team that beats you up, and they cycle you to death, and they send a physical message. They may not be physically punishing you with big hits all the time, but there’s so many little body blows that Carolina gives in their game. And there’s a reputation around the league of when you play the her when you play the Hurricanes, it’s going to hurt. you’re gonna get you’re you’re gonna take uh you’re gonna be drawn into a boxing match that you probably don’t want to get into. And I I think when you have a opening shift like that, when you have an opening like that from it didn’t have to be from one player, could have been from a multiple players, but when you have something like that that goes out, I think it’s a bit of a message sending thing to the rest of the group of we’re not going to let Carolina dictate this game. We we can a we can play their game, but b we’re going to go and dictate how things are going to go. And I think that goes a long way just because I’ve seen uh being based in in Detroit and watching Carolina play a lot of divisional games. I’ve seen so many games where Carolina and Florida’s the best at it in the league, but where those two teams, they go in the first five minutes of the game, they just physically take other teams out of the game. Other teams just emotionally are basically wrecked by the physicality of the game. and Carolina just is then able to kind of get that cycle up and going and the machine gets worrying and everything like that. So when you when when you are not afraid right away and obviously the Stars have some of those guys and Glenn Golson has talked about hey we’re going to add that 1% of physicality every game as we go things like that. Tonight is one of those that first shift to me is one of those where you put it in the the kind of the time capsule the tape or whatever and you’re like this is how Colin Blackwell hit us made us 1% tougher tonight when we look back on this game game seven right what it is or sorry game eight whatever it is against game game eight the 1% we got tonight was because Colin Blackwell set the tone and I think that’s something that can go a long way and I just the opponent just made it even more important I think that that time capsule would be opened up tomorrow morning at about 10:15 for me because it in in the form of a video and in form of a video reinforcing how we took time, space, will, whatever you want away. Again, they didn’t roll over this team, but they took something away from them. They took some steam away from the way that they like to play and it would be part of your mo about who we’re going to be if we’re going to continue to move forward. And I’m talking leading towards the playoffs because of what a lot of some of those things that they did tonight need to be in their game at the right time of the year. If you guys are the coaching staff, the Dallas Stars, and you’re in Nashville for a six o’clock game tomorrow night, which they will be. Yep. Do you put Blackwell Sean and Ernie out if they keep that line together to start the next game and say you go do that again? For me, probably not. I probably lead Trump. I mean, I I go with Ratn. Yeah, because you’re gonna see what because let’s see what they’re going to do. You know, you’re forcing their hand. They get the last decision. They look at the sheet and again, you’re not going to go wrong with having Ranton out there. I might even put Robo up there only from a puck possession territorial kind of possession thing so you can set the tone there. But again, I don’t think he’s going to change anything. Sam Steel had a great game tonight. Sam Steel was working hard and I liked it when early on him and Blackwell got on the penalty kill. wondered if you noticed that immediately I do because I think they’re the two best penalty killers out there. I’m not happy with with everything that I see from Wyatt and from from Rupe. And I think that they can save those guys minute-wise to pour it into everything else that they do. I don’t think they have to use those guys in in in that certain situation. Notice too, Steel had a that I think it was on the same penalty kill that you’re referencing. He had had a shift on the ice before the penalty was called, stayed out there. And so when he went to the bench, I looked up at the clock and they they have the time on ice and he had like a 90-second two almost two-minute shift, which is rare for a penalty killer, but it was because of the carryover from five on five into that. So he was out there for quite a while, but no, it was nothing like the Bishel and Petravvic shift 435 or something like that. Something else, wasn’t it? All right, we are going to do our full breakdown. We’ve got goals, we’ve got plays, we’ve got two ones, all that coming up here on the DLS Stars postgame show. But we’ll do that next. But first, I’m going to be ready for an ad read here, and we’re going to talk about Game Time. And the uh the Game Time app gives you the advantage back to fans. It’s the hack for unlocking amazing tickets and experiences in a few taps. Earlier tonight, before uh sit down to watch the game, I was actually talking to a couple people who were looking at tickets for an NHL game coming up, and they were talking about a couple other ticketing sites, and I asked them if they tried Game Time. And I told him it’s a really cool spot where it comes to a pretty cool uh we’ve uh you I can just picture Sam Nestler’s voice yelling it’s game time, right? 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And what he’s trying to do is he’s trying to pull the puck from his backhand to his forehand. But what happens is Blake picks up his stick, the puck slides away from him and then he slides the puck underneath Rscoian and then he puts it in the far side of the net. And so it was a quick play and Petro didn’t realize where he was off the face off, I don’t think. And then Rovian is just trying to I think he got a little fortunate when it went under Rovian’s stick here. But all in one motion he shoots it. And so I I Sean, I don’t even know if you can see what we got here, but I I have a circle around Jake’s right foot and and I don’t know I because it just seems to me this puck goes right in the middle of the net and I just didn’t know if Jake was assuming something else like he wasn’t going to be able to maybe pull that puck from his forehand or his backhand to his forehand so quick that Jake didn’t get a chance to move over. Well, I I think part of it is the the element of he’s expecting his defenseman to take away more of the middle, right? Like I think that’s part of the just the reality on this. He’s expecting a little bit more help from not letting the cut there. Um the other thing that’s just you just got to give a credit to to to Blake on this play is this is why when you to to Owen to go to the whole uh to steal a stalker term Owen I mean this is this is this is uh gagen press right like this is gagen press. The best time to attack is right after re right at the best time to attack is right after you get possession. And there’s so often where like this these little these little scramble plays and every everything like that um within those those retrievalss. How often ls do you see players sometimes just try to protect and then look for the pass? Right. Like I love this play from Blake’s effort perspective of you know what let’s just go for the net and be direct about it. Sorry, the texting sound coming through is Sam Nestler telling us that he’s going to come on to the show at some point. Um, but the but uh it’s like not see what’s happening behind the curtain. Yes. For uh but like I I think so I I don’t really have as I this is a really good play by a Carolina player jumping on an opportunity and I think it’s also a little bit on a goalie in that scramble expecting a little bit more help in the middle. So I look at it that way. But that’s a for me this is more credit to Jackson Blake than negative on anyone else I think. So yeah I agree since he’s come into the league he’s a greasy player like I mean and I mean that it’s a compliment around the front of the net. I mean he doesn’t quit on things and he goes through people and so you know well-deserved goal. Well the stars did a great chance on a quick pass for Miro Hkin into the low low slot for Maverick Bourke. Good save by busy who is playing just his third career NHL game. And Sean, you missed the pregame show, but we talked a little bit about his unique path to getting to his NHL debut with a team he never expected to be playing for. But then Bradley Naido, another I mean, Carolina playing some very young young inexperienced players, hit the elbow where the crossbar and the post meet on a shot from the left circle and then a twoon-one. AO sets up Seth Jarvis. Jay Cottinger came up with a huge save. Yeah, it was a timely save, you know, you you know, and again after and they followed it up again. But, but Jake looked much better to me tonight, you know, and there there was things going and with this team, there’s going to be things going around the front of the net, but but I thought Jake looked good on that. Take a look at the twoon-one here, Luds. You did a breakdown for this one. What did you see on this? Well, there there’s a couple things I’m seeing on this, but you know, Jake had to recover on this one here. What the puck? Oh, what the puck? Oh, there we are. Here’s what I want to do is I want to go back to the LA game with this is Thomas Harley, okay? And this is that twoon-one that ended the game the other night. But I just want you to look at the stick of Thomas Harley. I I like it when defenseman you got to find passing lanes and your stick should go in and out in and out of passing lanes. But what Thomas does, his stick is in a pretty good spot right now, but then at the last second he wants to put his stick over here. Now he opens up a passing lane. This is how that OT goal goes into the other night, right? And so now we we fast forward here. This is tonight. And again, to me, you have to be able to know where the opponent is that doesn’t have the puck. And what you’re doing is you’re looking where his stick is, and your stick is in and out of the passing lane. Harley keeps his stick generally in one place. He doesn’t go in and out with it. And the other thing about when you’re moving your stick in and out and in and out and closer to your feet and away, the player that has the puck, he can’t find the p passing lane. But you know what he’s doing? He keeps on moving his feet. His feet keep moving and so he takes himself to a worse angle, a shooting angle. Well, this one here again, he opens it up, slides it across, and then Jake comes across and read. I think this is the point where where maybe Jake is going, “Ah, this is Harley, so I think it’s going to get over to the other side of the ice.” So, he’s cheating over there to pick it up, but it was a great save by him. Well, it’s interesting you say that, Luds, because on the second goal, which was Aaho coming down on a two-on-one this time from the right side, I wonder if Jake maybe was cheating a little bit that way. Well, again, this it was gonna be a pass, but this is for me and that’s that’s the question I’m asking Sean. But for me, again, this is Thomas Harley because now what he’s doing, this isn’t it, but it’s the It’s the beginning of it. Oh, it’s the beginning of it. That’s where Miro whiffs on the shot. Yeah. Okay, that’s right. We’re We’re starting there. So, yeah, this this was a kind of an indecision kind of thing from Miro. So, Miro has to recognize there’s three guys here and so he’s going to try to keep the puck in. Doesn’t happen. goes down twoon-one. You want him to He was trying to recover after he whiffed on the You want him back, but you got to be able You have to be able to sense danger at times. You know, you’re early in the game. It’s late in the period. You see how much time is left here. You know, you got you might have to play it safe. But here’s what happened. Thomas Harley to me, he’s a left-handed shot. When he’s a left-handed shot coming down the right side of the ice, he’s got a better shooting angle. A righty’s over there. Jake is going to slide more to his left. Now, the puck is more in the center of the ice. So, so there’s more naturally more net to shoot at. To me, Harley gives him too much. He might be learning from the other ones. He’s saying you’re not getting the puck. I was going to say he looks like he’s in. That’s Robo on the other side. This is what two goals in the last couple. One was Maverick Bourke, one was Robo. What he does, I think that was Bork. Oh, no. That’s Robo. Yeah. What he did, he kept his feet moving the whole way back. So, he took that passing lane, but Harley, because he’s a left-handed shooter, he has to play him a little bit more honest, a little bit more in the net to keep him a little bit more to his right, you know, as a lefty coming down that side. So, my question Oh, there it is. Lefty shot. So, there’s my there’s my question, Sean. And I think we’ll have another shot here. Is Jake playing this right? And is this just giving credit to to a guy that just finds the hole underneath his glove? Yeah, I mean it’s it’s a good shot and it’s a it’s I think from the way just so you just sorry to interrupt. This is what I mean by this is a good look at how much room Harley’s giving a left-handed shooter to come in here. He’s got to be more to his left. He’s got to be able to at least to touch his stick has got to be inside that that faceoff circle on the left hand side. That’s too much room for a lefty coming down the right side, especially with the support he actually has coming back with with with Jason Robertson there. Right. There’s um now maybe not to to pile on to the other what happened at the end of the LA game the other night, but maybe he’s a little bit gunshy after the the lack of effort to pick up the to pick from the forward coming back the other night. So maybe there’s a little bit of that uh intuitiveness of overreacting. So um yeah, it’s I if if in a perfect world we can freeze it in the moment and move people around, you’re like, “Okay, I’d like to move Harley over a little bit.” But in many ways though, I think Jake Gotener gets the look he wants on this spot where the pass isn’t going to go through. He gets to be square and just sometimes NHL shooters are pretty damn good at picking their spots and and and it’s and that that happens. So, especially Sebastian Aaho of all people, too. Oh, yeah. I’m thinking if you’re Harley, you’re Thomas Harley, you’re probably I’m damned if I do and I’m damned if I don’t. I think I play it right. And and if I I it’s it’s one of those where I think one of the conversations I don’t know if they had that conversation, but I think you go into the intermission and if you’re Jake um and if you’re if you’re smart and you’re picking up your defenseman, I think you go into the locker room and you say to to Thomas right away, um hey, give me that shot every time. You did the right thing. Like right like I think that’s one of those especially where I think so. Right. Well, and that and that’s Sean’s exactly right because then now I know I have the confidence that he has the conf because again the whole point of a twoon-one is once things get below the top of the circle to the faceoff dot you start to drift off to the far side of the net because you want your goalender to have confidence to come out and challenge and and he wants that. He doesn’t want to. And I can I’ve said this before. I can tell when a goalie doesn’t trust so in that very same scenario that we just saw right there in in that particular one. I can tell when a goalie doesn’t trust his defenseman because he will be loading up on his left foot. That in other words, the same side that the the player with the puck is coming down. He’ll load up because he’s getting ready to push across because he doesn’t trust that the defenseman’s going to keep the puck on that same side. And so I think he kind of screw Well, I think he puts himself in a hole. Y I guess it was the same thing. I wasn’t. Let’s talk about the comeback because after it was two nothing in favor of the Hurricanes after the first period and Dallas came back and tied it in the second period. First chance was Mero Hastkin and getting what we call a amazingly neither one of Mero’s goals tonight was designated as an own goal Sean by the NHL statistics and official scorers. But I thought the first one was absolutely since it was basically below the goal line and it went in off of Nikolai Eers. But Luds, if you don’t throw it toward the net, it never goes in. Yeah. And this all starts with his his skating ability. I mean, he picks it up in in his own zone and as he takes off. I mean, he he splits four four of the canes right through the middle of the ice. Uses his speed. He actually he’s not trying to score this goal. He’s doing the right thing instead of going behind the net like we see we see Mero get to that point and he kind of circles behind the net. Nothing really happens. What he does here though is he gets down below the the faceoff dot and he’s running out of room. And this time here instead of going behind he just throws it to the front of the net. Hopefully I got who was that Tyler Sean come over here. So we that that pop puck off pad. He’s hoping that it hits a pad. Maybe Tyler gets a rebound. But it’s Nikolai Eers that gets there first. And as it’s coming across the front Eers and Eers is doing the right thing. He’s trying to take away the passing lane. But unfortunately for the Canes that one goes off Eer stick and behind the goalender. And didn’t you say I remember multiple times last year saying now he’s a forward. Yeah. Yeah. You would say you’d expect a defenseman to know to be facing away from the net instead of being facing back toward trying to prevent. Yeah. Well, see, he’s racing back though. It’s hard to do that. Yeah. And so I think from a forward standpoint, they’re probably not going to get to the top of the circle and turn and skate backwards. So, but the one thing any player that should be doing there is you go to the far post and you kind of slant your stick a little bit. So, if you go to the middle of the net, there’s a better chance if it hits you, it’s going in the net. If you go to the far side and you slant your stick, if that’s what you’re doing, you kind of tilt it more so that if I’m going to get it, it’s going to go into the corner instead of in the middle of the net. Sean, Miro Hasten has been uh receiving a fair amount of grief from fans and some of the pundits as well for his play so far this season. Does this help sort of erase not erase some of it, but make up for some of the what we see as maybe very unmurike play? Uh, I mean, yeah, it’s you score twice and it’s going to be, as I said kind of in our opening segment, right? Like for me, it’s the resiliency, the bounceback, right? Like we talked a lot about Thomas Harley on the two-on-one goal, but it goes back to Miro having the whiff on the puck. um to to me the thing that I’ve always wanted to see more of from from Miro and it’s it’s not that I expect it to ever happen just because he’s he is who he is and he’s not Kale Mar he’s not Thomas Harley he’s not this guy who’s going to be a heavy shooter but these are the games where and it’s going to be hard right with a backtoback it’s not like there’s a there’s a coaching time or whatever that doesn’t really happen much in the league anymore but these are the moments where maybe on Monday if you’re Glenn Goldson or Lane Nazerdine like you go and you just have the conversation with Mero about like look you’re one of you are one of the best defenseman on the planet no one is disputing that we believe that about you completely but just there’s times where if if you just showed a little bit more of that aggressiveness a little bit more especially on plays like that first goal we just showed right like that play 99% of the time it’s not a goal but it’s at least more chaos for the other team and and that and there’s so many times where he has control over the game. Um, and you get that entry or that that kind of clean zone cut like we saw tonight and then it’s just kind of he waits for everyone else to arrive. And I think there’s times where other teams just kind of they embrace that, right? Like they kind of let that they kind of do they wait with him and everything and then and then the chaotic the chaos around the net never happens. I would love just to see a little bit more in Miro’s game like that tonight where maybe you use that as an example, just a real time example with the video of like, hey, look, you have so much control over everything. Let’s create some more chaos in the game. Let’s do a little bit more after after you’ve done that. And I then it’s it you you don’t really there’s not much time to do it with the backtoback before you play tomorrow night in Nashville. But I I think it’s something from a coaching tool as you go through it sometime in the next 24 to 48 hours, you just try to look at how can you how can we build this and try to work on it’s not a major tweak to his game. It’s just asking him to do something a little bit more here that doesn’t hurt any other element of his game which is one of which are the best coaching tweaks you can you can add. I I think I think Murro sleeps better tonight and I think he’s going home feeling maybe my luck is changing and I think you come tomorrow maybe it’s a little more lighter in his step and this is the looking out of the darkness so to speak and I see the light. I can’t wait to see the light when LS talks to you about the merchandise next here on the DLS Star postgame show and then Sam after that. I’m probably going to see that light a lot sooner than the rest of you people. uh uh the DLLS merchandise. Well, and here’s the good news. So, here’s our two new shirts, right? But the even better news about how good-looking they are, that if folks buy them, apparently our GM has said that he has said this before, if we give if we get a we might get some shirts, a frenzy of sales, we might be we might be uh supported by a giving one. And I made the stupid comment in the pregame show that if that happens and we have our night or afternoon at the Hooters, I might buy some of them people beers. If they can wear them shirts there, proving that they bought them. So anyway, those are the two new shirts right there. He’s offering some. No, I’m offering blood. There’s a limit limit one. Um, so anyway, my favorite is the is obviously the green one cuz it’s got the little funky I like. I like the writing of it. I like the cursive and the the fonts or whatever the funny funky stuff. Yeah. And it reminds you of something, too. So All right, luds. I’m going to take over because it’s time. See, I’m trying to give you some of the time I usually chew up. Yeah. No, I like it. Let’s talk about the supporters club. Uh, you guys have heard us talking about this for a little while now because it’s no longer a brand new thing, but it’s still, as we say, true sicko level stuff since 2025. But if you would like to be part of a extra special little thing on the live broadcast on YouTube, you can have your name like Kujo Banjo here or I love Misty 1985 or Ardell or I could go through all of them. Or oh, look at this. Sports guy to just sent five new gift memberships to Stephen JT, CC, Gohard Volume 5, and Samuel. All of you guys just got randomly selected to be a I mean it’s such a great thing. Special emojis and of course all the wonderful little badging that you go on there. Have some fun with that. And we’ve got to do a new supporters club behind the scenes content video I think tomorrow. And we have Mavs, Cowboys, and Star Shows all in studio. It’s going to be a chaotic Sunday. All right, before Sam joins and Ryan let bring him right up when he’s ready. Let’s talk about the second Stars goal. Colin Blackwell draws a power a penalty on a breakaway. I still think those kind of plays when he gets behind the defender like that, those should be penalty shots. I don’t think the NHL hands out enough of those. It was clearly denying a scoring chance on a breakaway. But Luds, I love this power play. Wyatt Johnston, rope hints, then Wyatt got a point blank chance. That was the best one there. Then Harley got a shot. And then and is this part of the second unit now gets out there and this goes in for Sam Steel breaking a huge uh drought all the way back to late February. Yeah. Well, it I mean it started with being a little bit more direct and it seems like when Thomas Harley is out there, we’re a little bit more of a deck direct, but it really started Renon gets this puck and he gets it out and I circled Essa because Essa is the dude in front of the net. So there’s our guy that’s making a difference in front of the net and all of a sudden Essa never gets out here. But I like that it’s Essa Lindell that’s getting to the front cuz he’s not afraid of getting in front of the puck. He’s not afraid of getting on top. What made the difference though was when Steel came in here. But here, remember when I talked about penalty killers and they leave so much space in that that lane that goes to the net? Well, that’s exactly what Carolina did. And if we had to look from the back and we do believe, now this is just what I believe. I believe right here Thomas Harley sees that corner that’s wide open up there and Harley’s shooting for that corner, that open space over there. But it’s it’s Sam Steel and he gets just enough of that to redirect that puck into the net. Good for him. If you saw that on that replay that I did, it looked like it was just going to tail wide of the post and when Steel touches it, it just tucks it back in. I don’t think it was going to go in if he doesn’t. I couldn’t tell that, especially where that puck is right now, cuz I’m not just going just wide. That’s going right in the middle. It looks like it, but I swear to you, if you watch it, maybe it was the camera angle, but it looked like it was veering a little to the left. Anyway, great tip in for Steel. Nice job by both. Talk about getting a monkey off your back, right? Oh my goodness. Sean loves to do that one. Grab the throw it. But think about that. You get Mero’s first goal and then his second, which we’ll talk about later. You get Steals first and then you get Sam, our own Sam Nestler. Nope. Oh, he dropped off again. Is he there? All right. So, he is there. I was told he was there, then he wasn’t there. Then he’s been taking off. And we either doing Sam or he is. There he is. Hi, Sam. So, hey guys, first of all, nice to see you in the postgame show. Let’s start with Roe Hint. What do you know? Because he got absolutely belted by Taylor Hall in the third period, left down the tunnel and I don’t think he came back, did he? What’s the update? No, he did not. Yeah, he did not return. Uh, and there is no update. He’s still being evaluated. So, uh, the interesting part about this is one, I’d love to hear Luds if you think this is a penalty and how much of a penalty, but two, the Stars are going to be in a spot if they don’t have Rope Hints and Matt Duchain or Oscar Beck are not back tomorrow because they are short of forward and they have no cap space to figure that out. Luds, what did you think of the hit? You know what, like when I originally saw it and I’m watching it, I didn’t think there was anything wrong with it. I will say that because again Paul’s arm and forearm is going through the chest and the arm of of hints, but I can see I don’t I don’t know how much shit they get how the referees and everything how much they get to look at, but I can see where the two came from because there’s a little space underneath his feet. And generally when you’re hitting you’re always hitting and you drive up. But again, the big the big thing the crackdown now is when a player leaves their feet. But in in fast regular speed, there was no call, you know, nothing called because again, you can’t tell that. In slow-mo, if you’re Taylor Hall, you’re probably going, “Well, look at the hit. It doesn’t look like I’m even my feet.” But it’s clearly he does. And that’s the But as far as anything else, even though we even had a shot where there was no contact, it looked like from his shoulder or his elbow or arm that was hitting him in the head. This was all body. So, um, anyway, uh, but he got the two, which it was nice. Like, you can see how compact there that he is, but right there, it looks like he’s, and again, he’s elevating a little bit right here, which probably merits the two-minute penalty. Sam, you were front and center this morning for Logan Stanovven, as we talked about in our pregame show. What did you think of the video tribute, the reception he got from the AAC crowd and that whole experience? Yeah, I thought it was great. I I was hoping, like I said in the pregame show, I was hoping he’d get one. It’s kind of that weird one where he didn’t play a whole lot of games, but he was a big part of the team. He was a big part of their future. Huge draft pick. All, you know, along with Wyatt Johnson and Maverick Pork was their their future untouchables until Miko Ratin became available. But, uh, he also, if you want to look at that way, he was the trade that got them Miko Renin, right? So, um, he means a lot to this team and he got a a mostly standing ovation and and was very excited about it. I thought, uh, I thought he played well, too. I thought he had a good game. um he’s been transitioning to center, so it’s been interesting to see how he’s played. But I did love that they did that. Uh it was interesting because I wasn’t sure they were going to because usually it’s that first media timeout, but then they went to the the stick kid of the game and then they went to the ice girls and then I was like, “Oh, maybe they’re not going to do it.” But uh very glad they did. He looked like he enjoyed it. Check out Sam’s Twitter, Sam Nestler. He had a video from the press box of the uh center hung scoreboard tribute and then of course Stan Coven standing up and waving and it was it was a nice touch. Uh what were your thoughts about the postgame feeling? I I was talking to a couple of guys this morning where they certainly acknowledged the less than stellar feelings after losing going winless and four. Was there a more positive vibe in your mind after the game? Yeah, a little bit. It it was almost like, okay, we got one, right? But we know we didn’t play great still. It was kind of a feeling like that in between. We got to win. We needed a win. Like that team this team needed a win no matter how it came. They could have they could have Jay Cotton could have made 40 saves and they won one- nothing and they still would have been okay, we got to win because sometimes you just need to get two points. But uh the other side of it that I thought was really interesting was kind of a common theme was they didn’t change their game plan after the first period. they they thought their game plan and the way they wanted to play was perfect. They just didn’t do it. Coulson just said, “We didn’t play to the game plan at all in the first period.” So, it wasn’t it wasn’t like they came in and said, “Here’s all the things we have to change.” It was kind of just guys, let’s do what we said we were going to do. Because we didn’t do that. And uh Leon Bishop talked about how without Danny Ben, without Duchain, Tyler Sean, uh Miko Ranton and Miro Hastin and Essa Lindell, those have been the guys that have kind of stood up and and spoken at intermissions when they need to or when the team’s down. And I thought that was interesting to see that the Fins because we know the Fins as these quiet guys that won’t give us a quote, but in the room maybe they’re still a little like that, but they obviously carry enough weight to whatever they do say is very well uh received. But uh the one thing I really thought was interesting from Glen Goolson was I I asked him about, you know, when the game gets chaotic like that at points in the second period, it kind of felt like we were in a three-on-ree overtime. It was just wide open chance here, chance there. I know Owen, you thought that Jason Robertson breakaway was going to go in, which would have been a perfect uh threeon-ree type of sequence. And Glenn, I asked Glenn Goldson, when that happens and you’re a structured team, you know, Dallas likes to play a little more structured hockey, do you try to really get back to what you want to do or do you try to win the game that’s in front of you? Because, you know, you at some point you have to say, “This is how the game is being played.” And he said, “We wanted to outstructure their pressure.” So, he talked about how them and Florida play that really high pressure pinch at the at the blue line, uh, jump up high on the forche or low on the forche. and he said, “We just trusted that our our structure would hold more than their pressure would get to us.” And I thought that was really interesting because they did show that a little bit in especially in the third period and they kind of locked it down. Needed a few big blocks, but they did clean up some of the things. It wasn’t as wild and chaotic as the second period. So, I thought that was a good adjustment. Yeah. And sometimes you don’t want to get sucked into playing the other team’s game like that. You want to stay and say, “No, no, no. We’re going to overpower them with our style.” Yeah. And and to Sam’s point in and play with the structure and the structure that he’s looking for is you’re not going to see a lot of daylight to our goalender, right? And Sam mentioned block shots. Dallas had 30 block shots tonight. There’s only four guys, I believe, that didn’t get hit by a puck. And but that means that it could mean a couple different things, right? It can mean that Carolina was spending more time in that zone than we we care to admit or notice. But the bottom line is is there were guys that were paying the price to get in the way and they’re in the areas of that that you notice that they were more again we we seen we last year we showed so many things of of Edmonton the way that they packed around the their goalender in the playoffs where Dallas couldn’t get pucks to the net. So they’re kind of taking a page and Gullixen he saw what it did. I mean Gully’s you know he’s been there you’ve seen what what it does. But the other side of that is you have to have guys buy into it. Not everybody likes getting hit by pucks you know not not I know Sam doesn’t. So, um, Sam and and Sean quickly. We have a couple minutes left in the segment. Uh, let’s explore the emergency situation. If Rope Hints can’t play and Oscar Beck and Matt Duchain aren’t ready, either one of them aren’t ready to play because they have no extra healthy bodies. Forward or D, what happened? Yeah. Um, so one thing that will come in potentially come into play on this, um, because remember, if you put someone on injured reserve, they have to be out for at least it’s at least a week, right? So, Yep. Um, the other thing that could come into play tomorrow and it’ll be fascinating to see how the Stars handle this, you could you we could see the Stars going into an emergency roster role situation for tomorrow. And if you do not have the cap space to call up a player non-goalie, which they currently do not, which they do not, right? I think they’re at ne um you you then can play one game with less than 20 players and then after and then you go into an emergency condition where you are allowed to call up one player uh with an 875k salary or lower until the emergency has subsided. So, um it’s an interesting it’s an interesting case where there’s a very there’s a very real possibility we could see the Stars having dressing a lineup with uh just 17 skaters tomorrow night in Nashville because of the we’re there with the cap and how things have gone. Um and then um and then and then May and then being able to make an emergency recall for uh Tuesday night. So, it’s it be interesting to see how it goes. So, and Sam, it’s wild because Gully said earlier this week that based on the Nils Lungquist IR that they would probably have to call up another defenseman at least for the Florida road trip if not for Nashville and they can’t even do that right now if they don’t have enough players. Yeah, Sean, can they put Niels on LTIR to open up that cap space? Because I know he’s on IR, so his roster spots open, but can he go on? I don’t think he’s coming back within the the time, right? Yeah. I mean, it’s that I I they can. I know. It’s This is one of those if they had to. Yeah. Yeah. That’s going to be one of the interesting spaces where where they they can. I believe they can. Um and once again, everyone just I I I’m a broken record on it, but with LTI, remember that anything you use, you then have to make up for at the end as well. So, it’s um the other tough thing, right, with the like because I’m looking at their cap space right now at the just kind of their level like it’s when you if you go into this emergency condition, you get you’re listed, you’re basically at the spot where you’re bringing up guys who are making 875 or less. And so for Dallas, um you’re it’s probably R2 Huru. That’s probably where you end up based off that off the cat space cap space and everything like that. But like um like an Emil Heming and he hasn’t been great. He was scratched in Texas the other day. But like Emil Hemming your your your your forward prospect makes more than 875. He wouldn’t even be available. So there’s other things that come in. There’s like other moving parts in all of this that that make things difficult. So all right guys, we have to go to an ad break. Let’s do that next. Sam, thank you so much. Unless you want to stick around for all the super chats. We will see you in studio tomorrow night for Stars and PRs here on DL. Damn. Well, it was great that Sam was here. And if you want more of Sam Nestle in your life, and I know everyone wants more of Sam Nestler in your life, you need to get the DLS free newsletter that comes to your mailbox, I believe, every Monday through Friday. It it’s got it is your taste of everything you need for DFW sports. Um it’s great. 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I’m just looking at Kayla who’s been a great diehard or at least a great supporter of the show. She’s in the chat going, I need Sam Nestler nesting doll. Like the Russian nesting dolls. That would be pretty funny. In other words, life-size. Oh, very nice. And you can be a diehard if you sign up. Go to the the QR code the bottom of the screen that takes you to alldls.com. Sign up to be a diehard. You get so many great perks. Let’s talk about some of those perks. First, you get access to all the writing. Sam, Sean, Ron, our new Mavs writer, Clarence, of course, with the Cowboys, the legendary Chill, Clarence Hill, and of course, Jeff Wilson with the Rangers. They’re in the World Series right now. Not the Rangers, but baseball is Rangers were a couple years ago. But anyway, then you get a free t-shirt for your first year of an annual subscription of your choice, including those Face Off collection shirts. They’re very, very sharp. And yes, we do events. You get 20% off events and merch. We’re taking a bunch of DLS dieards or stars fans to a takeover game in December. Might do another one later. So, sign up to be a die hard so you get That’s right. That one’s already sold out. LS has already promised buying a round for anyone wearing a DLS faceoff t-shirt. Here we go, Luds. Got to Yep, I know. Here we go. That you know, someone’s going to be wearing one. December 7th. It’s already sold. Yep. All right, let’s do the final breakdown and then we’ve got a whole mess of super chats, so we got to rattle through these. So, it’s 22. Let’s just couple quick ones. Sam Steel had a twoon-one with Rantin and I I didn’t like I know Rantin is his pass first guy. I wish that he had shot that because Steel kind of took himself wider so he got the one-time off but want Mo Rantin and to fire that puck but that was that was fine. It was two- two at the time. Robo had a great chance in the crease then you have a couple more. Robertson obviously had the breakaway right after missed that uh it was Martin threw it right through fell into the net and it somehow didn’t hit him and go in. Somehow he didn’t score. And then Robo goes the other way on the breakaway and Booy made or Busy made a nice save. Go to the third period. We had all sorts of stuff going back and forth. Stars had a couple chances. Stan Coven had a really nice one-two at the crease, but it was Mero Hasten and Luds on a fouron-ree power play that got the Stars the win. Yeah. And really to me, it was right off the face off and Dallas wanted this puck. And what I mean by that is when this draw goes into the corner, a lot of times you see maybe two guys go in there, but there was three of them in there. Wyatt was in there. Robo was in there and Ratton was in there. And that’s really what gains the possession. Obviously, they win it. And then it just you you kick it back out. And and again, from there, that’s where everything takes place. And from there, it’s just one of these little poke checks right here with the stick on puck. Keep that puck alive. And as Muriel grabs it again and uses his legs again and starts heading downhill again, he decides, I’m going to shoot the puck instead of go behind the net. And you can see Robo, this is supposed to be going to Robo right here. And he’s ready for it. Yeah, he’s ready for it. He’s going to stick. As a matter of fact, the way he celebrated, I thought he thought he got it. I did too on at live. But you can see here it ultimately hits one of the players from from Carolina and goes off the glove and right between the legs, I believe it was on the goender. And so that ended up being the big one. And there’s Robbo. It was funny because when Robo was out of there, his hands were up in the air and a big smile and he went around and I’m thinking, “Robbo, that puck never even came close to you.” So anyway, doesn’t matter. We’re good. I uh I really liked the way the Stars packed in and defended in layers. You were just talking about it at the before the last break, those final three minutes or so or whatever the actual time. So the Hasten goal came in 11:18. Guess what? After Hastinan scored, Carolina had zero high danger chances. How about that? For nine minutes of hockey. I thought Dallas played very I thought they managed the second half of the third period. Yeah. Well, they were connected. I mean, they’re they’re more they’re they’re more connected, you know, than they have. Again, everybody’s like again, sky is falling around here in the first five, six games, but it’s going to take and they’re still not there, but they’re going to get loose at certain times, but you continue to Exactly. You continue to go through all this stuff. It’s just going to become habit and you’re gonna you’re gonna go wait there’s too much space between you and I and so I need to be a little tighter to that. And the thing is is that think about the mar the thin margins guys Sean. It could have been Nathan Bastion is the the scapegoat. Not the goat but the scapegoat when he took that slashing penalty taking Aaho stick out of his hands at 931 putting Caroline on the power play. But then Hall gets rope hints. He gets a minor for it after review. And then uh Jarvis takes a holding penalty and now they have a four on three. if they score on Bastion’s minor, they have the lead and he’s feeling awful. And what a what a turn of events over a couple of minutes. Yeah. Um you’ve touched on a random note for me that I find very annoying is I very much liked when GO goat was a uh a negative term in sports just that’s that’s me being an old person I guess now. Like I I I I I every time I hear people talk about the the way the way the word term goat gets used, I think of Bill Buckner letting the ball roll through his legs at the World Series. when I think of goat. So, um, anywh who the it’s it’s I I go back to kind of the miro spot of it, too. Like, and you’re right, like if the if Carolina scores there and Nathan Bastian’s in the box, we’re having a we’re definitely getting a couple super chats in tonight from some people talking about how Nathan Bastion needs to be out of the lineup, right? That definitely happens. Um, but it also goes back to Miro’s. the confidence is there and you see this chaos and Jason Robertson is creating a little bit more of of going to the net there and everything like that and hey this is you are there’s very few people on planet earth that can outscape Miro Hishkin with the puck on his stick right and when there’s even more space like this when you have kind of that fouron-ree situation like we do I want to see a little bit more of this blood in the water mentality from here. I want to see the spot of like, you know what, I am a better skater than you. I can take the space you can’t. And I just I go back to my earlier point about the first goal, but I just it’s one of those where I hope the stars hammer it hammer home and talk about it because it’s it would be this team is a lot better if you know what Miro is going to add a little bit of that edge as a finisher and that ideal as a finisher. He doesn’t need to be a double- digit goal guy. I’m not saying that. But if he can be that guy where he is frequently creating a little bit more of that every single opportunity and things like that, this team can the offensive jump from the back end can look even more lethal. So that’s that’s where I kind of I I can’t help but think about that because I really hope they push this because I want to be able to watch that happen with Miro. I want to be able to a week and a half from now, I want to be even if he doesn’t have any points in the game, I want to be able to talk about, hey, I’m loving how much he is being aggressive. I’m loving how he’s creating opportunities for forwards because he’s taking that extra drive and he’s pushing and he’s pushing the play and creating some of those those pop plays as Luds talks about those puck off pad shots. I really just hope that this is something that we see more of going forward and just like glass ceiling broken everything like that for confidence and everything like that. So, I hope so. I was just going to say I maybe I shouldn’t now we is the show over yet? No. Oh, okay. No, we got more time. Go ahead. No, I was going to say Sean when when when Shawn mentions about Robo going to the net there, Miro probably doesn’t score that goal if Robo doesn’t because that player is not there to block that shot and it won’t go in off of him into the net. So, I mean, little things like that make a difference. All right, we have a lot of super chats. Probably going to have to use a little overtime tonight, guys. Let’s go start it up. I know. Thought that was illegal. No, it’s not illegal. We just have to make sure we do it at the right time. We’ll start with I love Misti 1985 with a very generous Auter and Lewig couldn’t super chat in Europe in the last win was a couple weeks ago now because it was the Minnesota game because they wouldn’t let me pay in euros but I can finally leave another one because we finally get our first win since coming back to the US. Winners get super chats. I like that policy. I think the euro is higher than the US dollar. You’re our currency expert. I’m pretty sure it is. Okay. So, let’s sing. They should allow you to pay your own. They should. All right. Let’s go to the next one. Burned oil with a Lquist and an Oscar Beck. Could be a Brendon Moral, but we’ll stick with Oscar Beck. That was some hella hella saves from Hella Buck tonight. But in the end, it’s Sam that wins because he’s hella hella hot. Son of a hot Sam. All right. Okay. I think Burned Oils just wants to hear the hella buck drop if we have it off your fingertips there, Ryan. Hella buck. I don’t know if he meant that version. That’s That’s either one’s fine. Let’s go to the next one. Bing bang. Marshall second with a Lquist and a hints. And you’ve got to move your cursor. There we go. Just a little bit. It was blocking the words. Why are we having such a hard time scoring five on five? I thought the system changes were mainly defensive. Thoughts on five on five scoring? Well, the systems are mainly defensive, but you don’t have all the bullets in the gun yet. And it’s that simple. And again, we keep saying it’s not it’s not the same team as a couple years ago, and with Duchain out and Jamie out and you know what I mean, like there there’s some key parts that create scoring chances that aren’t in the lineup. Jamie does it more by going to the net. Shane does it more obviously by setting people up. John, hold that thought. I want to get you a response from this, but we have to say thank you very much to all of our viewers tonight watching on our television platforms. Make sure to like and subscribe here on the pod and check out alldls.com. All right, back to the show. Sean, you missed the pregame show. I didn’t even get a thought to hold. Have a thought. No, because I have a thought I want to ask you about. We were talking in the pregame show about the impact of not having Jamie Ben on this team for the first three weeks of the season and more. Jamie skated for the first time on his own yesterday in in in full pads. That’s a good sign. That means he’s starting his ramp up, which obviously after a collapse long, he couldn’t do anything right afterwards. Had to make sure it was at least a couple weeks healing of very minimal activity. I asked Jason Robertson this morning about it. He made an interesting comment about how how good Jamie is at holding his the guys in the room accountable off the ice. That’s stuff we don’t see. And of course, the we also had the conversation about you have a new coach and he’s your conduit between the players and the coaching staff and him not being available at the start of the year. I know it’s better than later in the season. It’s still a tough time not to have Jamie around. I mean, before the season started, one of the things that when when this injury happened, it was the whole I brought up we were going to see um I hate using silver lining, but we’re talking about opportunity for other people to step up and LS is for for me. It’s been we we’ve seen that with Miko Ranton, we’ve seen that with um we’ve even seen that with some other players and in the the long run on something too that I just I’m curious about. Um Glenn Goldson, I remember him and I had a long chat um during the prospect tournament when it was in Fris there and he was talking about how he’s gonna how much he was going to rely on Jamie as his as as kind of someone who he who played for him before can as and not that I you wouldn’t want Glenn to ever rely on Jaime, but LS isn’t there something power a little bit powerful too here where at play when because it’s not going to it’s not going to come at a at a time of year that’s going to cost them the the playoff spot and all that junk and everything like that. But like to me from a player perspective, I think there’s something a little more powerful here for opportunity for Glenn to build that natural relationship with the rest of the team. It’s not, hey, I’m just the I’m I’m just just Jamie Ben is signing off on me being a good guy. That still goes a long way, right? like when when when Glenn got hired talking to Jamie Jaime’s past history with him definitely helped with those initial just like Joe Povvelski Ding was a great sort of fast forward when Pete Dbor came in because of their past relationship. Yeah. Well, you’re also you’re also learning life after Jamie. Yes. when you’re when you’re talking about the players, you know, and and the Miko Ratins and Wyatt and Essa, whoever whoever Mik Miro, whoever, you know, now you get that sense when when Big Daddy’s not around, you know, when he’s gone and whatever day that’s going to be. Here, here’s my guy because he says the things and he can because you’re you’re supposed to be that pipeline to the players, you know? I mean, your captains, that’s the idea is you kind of spread the gospel. You spread the word. Yep. And so, you got to know which ones can spread it in the right way. And you also need to have those guys that have the stones to come in there and challenge you at times and say, “Listen, we don’t need to go on the ice tomorrow.” Like, “We we we got to stay away or we we want to do this.” You say to challenge you, you’re talking about challenge the coaches. Yeah. The coaches and I don’t mean challenge them, but be able to go in there because I think they respect and appreciate that. Yes. You know, I had a we had a guy come into the room today and wanted to like, “Dude, what?” And just talk and and I like that because it’s you’re not a rat. It was just about changing something on the power play because they’re the ones that play the game. You know, you you guys can sit back or the coaches can sit there and look at all this kind of stuff, but they’re the ones that have the feel for what’s going on when they’re on the edge. All right, let’s go to the next super chat. Bing bang. We are with a T farmer with a hasten and 99. I’m all in for Miro get games. Defense plays well and there’s a win. Who knew? You just got to put one on top the other. You know what I mean? You got you gota take next step down. It would be nice. Do you think, and I I want something I was going to ask Gully and I I asked him about Jamie instead, but do you think that Gully’s attempts to alter the way they play, especially in their own defensive zone, is at the detriment of the Stars offensive style with the way they play, or can this team still be dynamic scoring even if they tighten up in their own end? I keep saying it. I think there’s a couple pieces missing that they don’t have the same chemistry, groove, feel about them. It’s a little more sluggish and you’re again you only can do it by loading up a line, right? And then they feel I think that by loading up that line it may hurt the other two lines. So all right, let’s go to the next super chat. The stars at night with a Lquist and year after the cup showed fight tonight. Good wins. Still don’t understand what Bourke does well. Why is Bishell regressed to a baby giraffe? Mero responded to the noise. Um, John, what how do you feel about Maverick Bourke right now? Um, I I mean, for me, Maverick Bourke is a player where I think last before last season started, I was very high on Maverick Bourke and he’s a player who I I watched him at the AHL. I watched his game with Hockey Canada. I watched kind of his entire development path and I thought this guy was going to be an impact gamer. Like I like I really did like and and I’m not I’m not I don’t I’m not I had such a high expectation for what Maverick Bore could be. He was literally the league MVP in the AHL. He dominated games. He did all of that, right? And so I personally, and I maybe I’m part of the problem because I think I definitely helped drive the hype train of it all, but like Oh, you were you were the conductor. You were the engineer of the hype train. Yeah. And so to he it’s just been he has he’s not been able to he hasn’t adjust. He he is a classic example of you know what, the NHL is a really hard league and you have to go into your toolbox a little bit more effectively all over the lineup. Um, and I I don’t think it’s for a lack of trying. I like I mean, you guys had a really great interview with him before the season where he talked about his willingness to play anywhere and everywhere on the ice. I don’t think it’s for a lack of trying. I I just think this is a young kid who has been so used to success throughout his career, right? and then he went through kind of the struggles in year one in the AHL. Got it right in the AHL and wins a league MVP award and then comes into the NHL and doesn’t really have the jump start he thought he was going to have. Doesn’t have the jump start a lot of people thought he was going to have and he’s now been he basically kind of has been fighting through that wall the entire time. And I just watch him play and I see flashes here and there and it and I really hope he does become the player I thought he was going to be. He’s going he’s getting some of those early challenges and struggles that frankly he has to get through them quicker because Jamie Ben is hurt because Matt Duchain is hurt because who knows like it’s it’s the spot where if you want to be that player when opportunity opens up like it has you have to seize and he just hasn’t done it. So that’s like here’s why Sean, here’s why you had hope. Because he was only getting spot chances to play up the lineup and you saw a real small sample size and now you’re getting to see a full sample size and you’re seeing he’s not going to be able to do it. Not he’s not going to you he can’t put them glimpses together right now. He he can’t. And the more he gets the more you because our expectations were up here. We thought he was going to be Logan. He’s not Logan. He can’t create like Logan can. I mean, I don’t know what the difference is there. You say you keep saying yet. Are you still holding out the possibility? No, because I I agree with what Sean is saying because I what I’m seeing I’m seeing a guy that’s getting the opportunity that he wanted and he’s not able to push through it. Now that maybe he needs to be in a different spot or on a different line and and that puts him in a, you know, maybe if he played with Ranton and and Pence or Robo, whatever it may be, that those guys can set him up and he may maybe be able to translate some of them into goals. But right now, wherever he is, we’re not seeing it. And we’re seeing him play a lot, which is taking our our hope down a little bit. Sean, one last thing and then we got to speed through this, but Maverick came up playing center. Do you think that that affects it at all? I’m not trying to make excuses for him. I’m just curious. Uh maybe. I mean, to me that the the it’s Maverick is going through part of the spot where and I I don’t want this to come off as a disc because it’s go and it’s going to come off as a disc to both players, but it’s not. Um text to me. I’ll be the dick. Yeah. Yeah. No, no, but like here’s the here’s the thing. Sam Steel was a first Sam Sam Steel was I didn’t want to be a disc. Oh, I thought he said No, you did. I thought Sam, yeah, but Sam Steel was a first round Sam Steel was a first round pick. 30th overall. This is what Sam Sam Steel went through all this, right? Like Sam Steel was supposed to be a top six NHL player and now he he had a nice game tonight. And so it’s funny for me to bring this up right now, but Sam Steel had to reinvent his career and become a middle six hardworking guy that can maybe move up and down the lineup. I didn’t want Maverick Bourke to become Sam Steel. I wanted Maverick Bourke to be the bonafide top six guy. And it looks to me he’s going to be more of the Sam Steel in his career where he’s going to have to find a way to play lower in the lineup and maybe be a spotter here or there every every time up the lineup. But and it it’s middle six is good where I hope I’m wrong. Like I I hope Yeah, exactly. Like I I like like I I hope I hope I’m wrong. I hope Maverick Bourc it just clicks the way I thought he would, but I keep seeing the opportunity. I’m not seeing him cashing in and that’s been it’s been frustrating. So, again, what is it? 21. Yeah, let’s let’s not throw them all yet. Yeah. All right, let’s get through some of these super chats fast. Yeah, I love missing 1985 second super chat. A hkin and a Lwig. Oh, anyways, back to playing Toki Memo on the PC Engine. Yes, that’s always one that Luds goes, “Oh, I’m perfectly up on whatever that is.” Ardell, we already talked about this, but a nice super chat from Ardell with Lwig and a Ben. This team needs its captain back in the lineup. I agree. And it’s for as much off the ice as we were talking about as on the ice. Jordan had a hasten in 99. Not to overreact, but Stars win. Go Stars. That one felt good. It usually does, Luds, after a big winless streak or losing skid to get a victory. That always feel makes things feel better. I kind of like going back to the one before that. Don’t know what she’s gotten with Jamie. Yeah. Yeah, I agree. Echo Spark with a uh that was a Masterton and a 99 cup here. I wanted to do a 2319 96 which would be a Lindell and Rantin amount to call out the play of Essa. So underrated and Mo amazing puck control and setting up teammates. Good game to the entire team. Those two fins, I mean, the fins were all good. Even Rope who suffered a tough injury there at the later stages of the third period. And then Mason Phillips with an interesting one here to close our super chats. Hastin and 99 cup here. Great win, but not going after Taylor Hall after he runs. One of your best players like that is embarrassing and pathetic. That can’t happen. He was quickly attacked by other people in the chat saying that Wyatt went after Hall right away. Then the rest of the team came in. It was a bit of a scrum. And Mason followed up in the chat by saying, “That’s not good enough. I want gloves dropping in oldtime hockey.” Kind of disagree with that. Yep. All right. We have another show tomorrow. Sean will be here. We don’t know if he’ll be on the pregame show yet, but we’ll find out. But we have a 5:30 pregame show and we have a six o’clock game, Stars at the Preds. I haven’t spent a lot of time thinking about the Nashville Predators this season. Have you? We just played them. We’re playing them tomorrow morning again. Third time in a row. Oh yeah. I’m talking about our UA teams are playing Nashville. Yeah. So yeah. Um no I I haven’t. I I think we’ve been more consumed with game at a time here with the be honest with you. By the way, Nashville has played one more game than Dallas and has won more points than Dallas. They are 43 and two so far on the season. 3-1 and one at home, one two and one on the road. Sean, I know that I’ve seen stuff lately about things haven’t really worked out continually this year with Steven Stamos and the PRs and there’s some rumblings and grumblings out there, but the big thing is I think the uh injury to Roman Yosi, which is a real shame for such a great player and their captain. Well, I think the other the other thing is Barry Trotz has learned quite quickly that there are there’s a different skill between building a team and coaching a team. I think that’s a that’s another thing with with how that group has come together. So, um yeah, but be fascinating to watch. I mean, from a Stars perspective for tomorrow night, and we’ll talk more about in the pregame, but I am I I want to see how they good teams take momentum and they win in tough opportunities, and I want to see how the Stars do that uh tomorrow night. Maybe short-handed when it comes to the roster. We’ll see what happens with every players. Yep. Yeah. So, I I want to see that. So, all right. For Sean Shapiro, for Sam Nestler at the AAC. Sam will be in studio tomorrow. We think we have Craig Lewig here. We have our producer Ryan Vers. I’m Owen Newkerk. Thank you to everybody who who joined us tonight. Thanks for our super chats. 5:30 pregame show, 6 o’clock game. We’ll do the postgame show as well afterwards right here on DLS. Don’t forget, like, subscribe, sign up to be a diehard. Get those new shirts. Bloods really wants that one of the new green ones. They’ll help him out. And thank you for watching. Rock me like a hurricane. [Applause] [Music]

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Led by two goals from Miro Heiskanen, the Dallas Stars beat the Carolina Hurricanes 3-2 on Saturday night at American Airlines Center, snapping a four game winless streak. Mikko Rantanen finished the game with two assists and Sam Steel scored his first regular season NHL goal since February 28th, snapping a 29-game goal drought. Sebastian Aho and Jackson Blake scored the goals for Carolina, who were up 2-0 after the first period, but could not hold on to the lead. Jake Oettinger made 26 saves on 28 shots to record his fourth win of the season in goal for the Stars, while Brandon Bussi made 31 saves on 34 shots, but was tagged with his first career NHL loss. Join the DLLS Stars Post Game Show as we break down all the action from tonight’s game, discuss the key storylines, check in with Sam at the AAC and take your Super Chats.

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