Reacting to Martin Necas’ extension with the Avalanche

Reacting to Martin Necas’ extension with the Avalanche

If he gets to be a 30 35 goal scorer regularly, this is a great contract. And if he’s playing with Nathan McKinnon every year, I think he can be that. Want to do the breaking news, Pete? Yes. Uh breaking news is uh Colorado Avalanche and Martin Hass have completed an 8-year contract worth 11.5 million annually. All well that ends well. It’s worth it to save half a mill apparently. So, what’s uh what’s what’s uh Ranton’s cap hit? I believe it’s 12. All right. So, they saved money. There you go. Can’t argue with it. Who would you rather have? $500,000. That’s who I’d rather have. I kid needs that needs that money. He’s struggling. Uh no state income tax. Got to point out there’s no state income tax. No, I’m just saying for Ranton. So, maybe he wouldn’t taken Maybe he wouldn’t have taken 12 in Colorado. I believe it was I believe it was documented he would have taken 12. It’s a that’s a crazy situation bungled situation but I will say they they they adjusted and they reacted and they fixed it as best they could like from where they were two days ago. What do you do now about Martin Neess? Sign him. Give him 11ish. They give him 11 and a half. Fine. the situation went wrong, but I think that it’s a decent recovery. All in all, I give them a C minus for the whole thing. Maybe a D+ when that was very easily cruising towards Fville. So, here’s the I I get what you’re saying, but here’s where I I differ there is I just don’t think that Martin HS is a 11.5 million player. Like maybe maybe I’m proved wrong. I just he’s not an 11 million 11.5 million player in my book. I think he’s like a Btier player. I think that he’s a clean up with Nathan McKinnon player though and yeah but yeah that’s a lot of people and and they’ve found that it works then you know keep it there keep playing but like they definitely bungled this situation and this is the best that they could do after that fact. Also Nus is such a like first month of the season merchant. Not in the sense that he gets bad afterwards, but like he goes the second straight season where he’s had a really strong start to the the season and like gotten paid for it more or less. I also like I I want to see I’m I’m glad that this is off the table that we can stop talking about Martin HS and where he wants to play and if he wants to play anywhere because not only did he get this eight-year deal, the first seven years have a no movement clause as well. So, we can uh we can throw away the possibility that like maybe the Colorado Avalanche will just dump him like next year. I I I do see what you’re saying where the cap hit is a little high, but it’s an 8-year deal and you have to remember that this isn’t a 29year-old player you’re extending. This isn’t a guy who’s coming off of like two long like an entry-level contract and then a longer second deal. He’s a guy coming off an ELC and then a bridge. He’s 26 years old, turns 27 this year, but like you’re signing him for 27 to 35, if my math is mathing correctly. If he gets to be a 30 35 goal scorer regularly, this is a great contract. And if he’s playing with Nathan McKinnon every year, I think he can be that. I I I just don’t want I I want it on record that I’m not poo pooing your reservations about the cap hit because it it should make you make a little face. And I will I will put it on record that like my brain is still getting adjusted to the new numbers and the new salary cap structure and and which tier players belong in which brackets. And it’s not made any It’s not made any clearer by the wild discrepancy in contracts that we’ve seen over the past. What I was going to say is I wonder to what extent like front offices are also going through that process of figuring out where things are, where things are going to be, what players are worth, especially after you have like really good players taking discounts and also the and Capri you can’t have right you can’t have the Capri contract dictate what happens with the rest of the league for one basketball book and for two he’s just so far off from what his peers are and not even his peers like I do not consider maybe you could consider Jack Eel a peer of Carroll Capri off but Conor McDavid is not a peer of Carroll Capriovv but basketball book Conor McDavid’s situation is way different he intentionally did not take a pay raise but if you want to live in the world of Capriovv is worth $17 million is Martin Nechass worth $11.5 million yeah like it’s on the higher end of what he deserveves serves uh R Lee upper 90 in the chat providing some valuable information to this conversation that I think we were forgetting cap is going up. They do say that people. Yeah. I mean that’s that’s kind of part of the the discussion here. It’s that we’re adjusting to like a new NHL world and you you want to throw out the Capriovv contract because it’s just not a an a realistic comparable at this point. I think that’s fair. I think that you also have to throw out the McDavid contract because it’s not a realistic comparable. Like that’s what I’m saying. Our brains are just so [ __ ] all over the place. And if you have a corkboard of like what is the new salary cap structure in the NHL, the the weave the like the webs that are being weaved and tangled here are just so hard to make sense of and my brain is not adjusted to it yet. Crazier than they’ve ever been. I mean time was Jonathan Taves and Patrick Kane would sign matching contracts for about let’s I think it was 10 million or 10.5 million whatever it was and it shocked a lot of people and you looked at that and you said well those guys make that Berseron makes a million or two less and everything kind of did settle in nicely. We are in a more confusing time than we ever have been capwise but I typically default to if you’re a cup contender and you have the player keep the player. You have to make tough decisions at points, but they made a tough decision on Nasam Cadri. They made a tough decision on Miko Ranton that proved to be I I could say disastrous. So like how many tough decisions can you make? I think they got themselves to a point where he had to be the guy that they kept even if he wasn’t their favorite of the bunch because you can’t just keep losing the players because when you traded Miko Ranton, you did not get commensurate value. There’s no way you can. If you trade a top five, six, seven player in the league, you don’t get one back. So, they’re kind of stuck where I think they had to sign him. Is the number a little high? I agree with you. Yes. But, but I’m on board with this. I support it. You But you support it with the assumption that he’s going to be a 30 goal scorer or like a mid30 goal scorer playing alongside McKinnon. And yeah, like the results have been great to start this season. He’s also shooting 31.8%. Oh no. So like it’s going to come back down. He’s only hit 27. Like 28 goals is his careerh high. He had 27 last year. Played half the season with McKinnon. So like where how realistic is the assumption that he’s going to be a 30 to 35 goal guy every year? Part of it is age. Part of it is age because a lot of players like Brad Marshon didn’t start becoming galactical scorers until they were in their mid to late 20s. And I’d have to look with Marshon, but he was probably right around 2728 when he started to become that kind of regular 30 goal guy. you. There’s not a doubt though there’s so much projection in this and baked into it is the fact that he’s younger than guys are when they’re typically signing these contracts like the this like big pre-Walky year deal. So I I would have done it is as far as I will go. I won’t say I’m super confident in it, but I I think that it is the work that had to be done. And as I said at the beginning of this conversation, it’s a bit of a recovery on the part of the Avalanche front office that they kind of had to do. Uh, do you think that they do this deal if the free agent class does not get like decimated before this point? Fair good question. You think they’re like like Randon was never coming cheap clearly. Yeah, Eel, that would have been cool as hell, but I think that was just unrealistic. But but further to your point, like what what else can you do? Like what else can you do other than sign the guy that you have and who like is what you got back for Ranton? That’s they they’re they painted themselves into a corner more or less and there’s there’s precedent for like Boston trades Sean for Louis Ericson and Louis good for a couple of years there. he’s really good in his walkier and they’re just like you know what we just we’re just not in love with this guy though like this is not our guy so they don’t sign him and that worked out because he wasn’t good after that but then they were just kind they were just a worse team they traded a player didn’t keep the player that they got back for him and then it’s like okay so to bring it back to the Avalanche are you just going to have Miko Rantin’s value vanish into thin air they’re kind of stuck where they have to sign him we’ll talk more about this though. Very fascinating. If you enjoyed this video, please subscribe to What Chaos here on YouTube. You will get everything. 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Martin Necas and the Colorado Avalanche have agreed to an eight-year contract extension worth $11.5 million annually, bringing a (soft) end to the Mikko Rantanen saga in Colorado. Is Necas worth that pricetag? Did the Avs have any other options?

0:00 Intro
1:01 Contract reaction
3:41 Adjusting to a new cap era
6:15 Colorado’s window
7:03 What’s Necas’ ceiling?

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